80s Movies That Could Never Get Made Today
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The Controversy Behind 'The Toy,' 'Revenge of the Nerds,' 'Soul Man,' and 'Heathers'"
Join us on Retro Renaissance as we delve into the iconic 1980s cinema, exploring the laughter, controversies, and cultural reflections embedded in 'The Toy,' 'Revenge of the Nerds,' 'Soul Man,' and 'Heathers.' From racial dynamics to dark humor, these films have left an indelible mark on the cinematic landscape. Buckle up for a journey through the highs and lows of 80s movie nostalgia! #RetroMovies #80sCinema #MovieControversies
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00:00 Intro
00:51 The Toy
03:34 Revenge of the Nerds
07:45 Soul Man
11:36 Short Circuit
16:01 Heathers - Розваги
This video only highlights the very serious problem of special snowflaking that runs rampant in today's society.
Woukd that be the ever offended youth or the always satanic screaming geezers?
alright granpa, go and cry woke elsewhere
Funny how in the 80s, these movies weren't triggering and everyone grew up to be productive citizens of society.
2023-24 comes along and people need safe spaces and their protective blankies to barely make it through a movie from the past.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with these past movies, other then some were just better than others.
You're right but, who raised the snowflakes of today? It was the people who grew up in the 80s.
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The Toy was very much disputed in the day because of the racial stuff
@@TheDopekitty It's because they cast a black actor, that's the only reason. Could have been white and it wouldn't have been a problem.
@@mikeschuler2946BINGO 🎯
My generation X
We raised the first generation of these snowflakes... But we didn't do any kind of half azzed decent job & yep we relied on TV and Internet to raise our kids.
Lol I call it out but I didn't raise a snowflake... My son loves these classics and he has no illusions of the world being a soft and nice place.
I raised MY SON RIGHT 😂 LOL
the fact that you bleeped out the word "pants." in "Did you get in her pants ?" is what's wrong with America in 2023. The idea that grown ups in college might want to get into the pants of other grown ups is so terrible, that you can't even say the word "pants."
Why does she have a penis? The snowflakes would really lose it and say that some women have penises.
Lol
Yeah, really don't understand why that got bleeped.
What a sad, butt-hurt world we live in now....wow did humanity as a whole go down the wrong path
I bet your house smells like an ashtray
I miss the old days where people could make jokes about each other. And still function as a society.
@Captainkirk88410 what if the joke caused somebody TOoff themselves?
No? We became less cringe.
@@Captainkirk88410 you know that racism and bigotry ran rampant more so then, right?
I'm 45. I somehow survived all of those movies. I'm a miracle!
Lol you Rayyyy cyst 😂😆😂
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I miss the 80s, the movies were way more interesting than most of what we get now, I love it when people make movies that piss other people off
Right there with you!
@@lexluthermiesterMe too. I grew up in the 80s. There sure were some strange movies, such as Killer klowns from outer space or The Hidden. And alot of horror movies such as the Nightmare on Elm Street movies, the Halloween movies, or The Fly (Killer klowns and The Hidden were horror too, but also weird). And adventure movies like Labrinth or Flight of the Navigator. And action such as the first 2 Beverly Hills Cop movies or the Rambo movies. And some very funny comedies such as the National Lampoon Vacation movies or Planes, Trains, Automobiles or Trading Places or Ruthless People or the first Naked Gun. And of course, there was also Back to the Future. And the great John Hughs movies Weird Science, Breakfast Club, and Ferris Bueller.
It's ironic that most of movies you talk about was meant to be seen as just wrong as not meant to be seen as accepted behavior. That's why it causes people to laugh, the audience understands how wrong the situation is, it's not meant to be a serious take on social issues.
@@kevingallagher188 Was your response to my comment or to @leeheverly's up top? If mine, I'm not sure why the movies I mentioned have been seen as unacceptable behavior.
Heathers and Short Circuit are just nit picky, silly. Has Euphoria not been seen by this poster.
Everyone of them. Because somebody will find fault no matter how miniscule the reason to complain is
Think about this, they can’t even make another Mel Brooks film because too many people would be upset about it. And it’s not because of his age. Although I will say that it does have a little bit playing another one ever getting made, but I strongly believe that any script he wrote, or turned in would be denied because people would be too afraid to film it
I think Pryor was hired for *The Toy" not because of the black stereotype thing, but more that the comedy in it is right up his alley.
If that were true nothing would get produced.
The prologue to this video is amazingly self absorbed. The 'but we are better now' statement doesn't seem to grasp how time and society works. In 30 years, we could smugly make the same list of films now, once sensibilities change again. And I would contend the proper term is CHANGE, not IMPROVE. Some this are better, some worse, and most often what today finds all the rage tends to go too far toward and then past an important 'good idea'. I'd be this video producer is at the most 25 years old.
You nailed it.
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Couldn't have said it better myself ❤
Rae Dawn Chong must have really fallen for the ruse because she and C. Thomas Howell were actually married in real life for a while.
I'm very surprised that "Trading Places" didn't make this list.
Blazing Saddles would really trigger him.....
@@laserblast92 wrong decade
The real insult of Soul Man is when he goes through how much 3 years of Harvard costs, and it's almost the cost of a semester of most colleges today........
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And their degrees actually had value. And got them jobs. Not some faux activist degree!
And blackface
Yeah, none of these movies could get made today. Now we know why today's movies generally suck.
😂agreed
Porky's would never be made today
All time great
There's enough wool there to knit a sweater
About REVENGE OF THE NERDS, they did not form their own fraternity. They were allowed to join Lambda Lambda Lambda, a Black fraternity, because they were the only ones who would accept them.
Yeah these channels never do their due diligence !
Quite frankly the decline of cinema is due to the PC police taking everything too damn seriously and putting out junk that makes sure no one gets their precious little noses out of joint. God I miss the 80's.
Not that christians didn't try their darndest back then and are still doing it to censor stuff.
If people could just stop being butt hurt all the time and tell others they have to follow THEIR sensibilities.
It’s capitalism. They want to sell as many units/tickets/views as possible to it has to appeal to the most people and offend nobody
@@sargonsblackgrandfather2072 You are correct there but in the 80's people generally were OK with things and didn't get their little sensibility's offended by something small and stupid that didn't really need a giant issue made of it. Sure you shouldn't go out and deliberately offend people but people are just too quick to be offended by the slightest thing these days.
@@Ninjabadger76 I agree to a certain extent but I think you’ll always have this generational divide in thinking too. I remember as a kid in the 80s tv and films were constantly telling us racism was bad and I bet our parents (our age now) got fed up with it, they didn’t see anything wrong with the culture they grew up on which in turn was alien to us. And I bet the it’ll be the same with our kids and their kids. The big difference these days is social media and the ability to publicly complain about these things. I also remember when I was young the papers were always going on about health and safety and political correctness “gone mad” and that was nearly forty years ago
@@sargonsblackgrandfather2072 Yeh I guess so you make some valid points maybe I'm just playing my right to be old and grumpy at the state of things card lol.
'In today's context there is no greater awareness of authentic representation in media' meanwhile Anne Boleyn and Cleopatra have been represented as 'black' and Beyonce rocked up on the red carpet sporting 'white face'.
Yeah.Isn't that ironic. If you try to sport dredd or afro,you get called out. But if Beyonce try being blond,it's completely OK
@johnnyguitar6639There are Black blondes and redheads.
@@SanFranDentist94301 That may be so.But Beyonce ain't one of them
@@johnnyguitar6639 Same could be said for Marilyn Monroe, Suzanne Somers, and Farrah Fawcett.
Anybody can be a fake blonde.
Denzel Washington as Macbeth, that dude in Doc Who that played Newton. Their sensibility only goes one way.
I've seen all of these with the exception of Soul Man. I remember it existed, but I can't recall seeing it. I may have, but it wouldn't have been more than once.
I actually thought Stevens was Indian at the time.
I still love Revenge of the Nerds, but even back then, as a pre-teen, I knew the bouncy room scene was wrong.
Ditto with The Toy. But it was the absurdity of the whole situation that made it fun.
In the 70s and 80s everyone was a target. Like the old Dean Martin roasts. But this is how we learned from and confronted society's problems. Head on and with humour.
Keep in mind that everything is offensive to somebody. Seek and ye shall find.
This is why I keep my DVDs.😅
Some of these movies could be made today with minor tweaks. If Fisher Stevens' character is the only problem with Short Circuit, I'm sure they could still make movie today using an actual Indian actor.
I was thinking the same thing. I feel that the reason behind him playing an Indian character is because there probably weren’t many Indian actors available at the time. If made today, they wouldn’t have a problem filling that role authentically.
No disassemble 😢
WE HAVE BUSH!!!!! 😂❤😂❤😂
Actually, I think Booger said "We've got Bush!"
This video is a great example of a giant snowflake crying over nothing!
These movies should be made again today without any changes. All of us who are ok with ourselves can watch them. Everyone who is offended can be offended and STFU! The rules for today are sad, sickening, and offensive!! Today is a pathetic excuse for living compared with the greatest decade for movies, music, and life! 1980s!!!
Well said
So much fragility.
Much of this video amounts to an apology for all the films it reviews. Why not make a different video, therefore, if you’re just going to model for us, like patronizing officialdom, how we should be intellectually and emotionally responding to what you’re showing us?
The "Revenge of the Nerds" part about sex by mistaken identity is a joke going back at least to the Middle Ages. Both Chaucer's "Canterbury Tales" and Boccaccio's "Decameron" had the same thing.
It's still r thoug
These aren’t men of culture. . .
Betty Childs still invited him to sex, and didn't seem to be too displeased afterwards...
Heathers is one of my favorite movies of all time. Dark comedies will always offend someone since they are taking on the "taboos" of our culture. I don't know how the 80s movie Parents with Randy Quaid and Mary Beth Hurt didn't make this list. Harold and Maude from the 70s must really set people off.
Yeah, I agree with you. Heathers was an iconic movie of the 80s, and it's still loved by most of us who grew up in the 80s. I have actually never seen Parents before with Randy Quaid, I gotta check it out sometime.
Short Circuit is a very good movie too. The Fisher Stevens character was playing an Indian, but he was not intended to be offensive, and was actually a very likable character, smart and with a good heart. Generally speaking, it's not offensive unless a character has exaggerated faults based on faults that are known to whoever he/she is portraying. But Stevens' character was likable and did not have notable faults, unless you count the way he sometimes got common phrases mixed up, but that's not a notable trait with Indian people, it's hardly a major issue, plus it was funny the way he got phrases mixed up such as calling the john the jack, or saying bimbo instead of bingo, lol
Trans is the 80s teen suicide . Trendy fade of today!😢
I think we call this Closed mindnes
“It’s a Cosby decade”…..oh Lord if they only knew, actually they probably did. 🤦♀️
Only Hollywood insiders knew if the public had know the Cosby show would've never been a success.
Are you kidding me? You tell me just exactly how you make any movie today and you don't piss someone off. Just yell at the fish to get out of the water too while you're at it.
Im sure in 20yrs they will be looking at today's movies and saying, "woe I can't believe they did that in a movie/song/tv show"
When you're a hammer, everything is a nail.
If Lady Ballers can be made in 2023, any of these movies can be made now.
Doesn't mean it's a good film. In fact, nothing that has Ben Shitiros paw prints on it is worth what my cats leave in the litter box, but I would feed it to Matt Walsh.
I love all these films!!! The 80's were great and christ to many woke agendas and snowflakes, nobody complains about white chick's but soul man is racist? Its just these are just movies so enjoy and if a snowflake don't watch them!
None of these films are offensive. They've probably dodged a bullet not getting a remake. 😆
if Fisher Stevens can't play a "brown" guy, then Elliot Page shouldn't be allowed to play a woman.
Has Elliott played a woman since transitioning?
This comment is so dumb ...
Agreed
@@TheDopekitty According to Wiki, just a voice gig.
@@bladerunner3314I mean? Bit dumber then let’s say? A girl pretending to be a boy!😂😂😂
I think they could, and probably would. In fact they are tame by today's standards. That you can make a UA-cam video that exploits the topics, claiming social evolution, even, is proof enough that they could get made, but considering the state of entertainment today, would probably be much more explicit.
Heather's is more popular now than it was back in the day. It lost 2 times it budget in 1988 but has had an EXTREMELY international successful musical (and has a censord version high school kids perform) as well as the TV show you mentioned.
Sorry Gen X but Heathers is the epitome of " I guess you guys aren't ready for that. But your kids are going to love it".
I loved it back in the 80s, and still love it.
I'm Gen X, and I LOVE this movie.
The heathers literally has a TV show a few years back , this is why this entire video is talking shit 😊
Despite everyone being fatter now than in the 1980's, everyone has gotten thin-skinned.
Despite everyone being fatter now than in the 1980's, everyone has gotten thin-skinned.
This script sounds like it was written by AI.
Revenge of the Nerds was AWESOME. Those who are "Offended" by it should Get a Life!
Sad that just a few years ago you could make great movies that are classics, and people watch them today and have emotional breakdowns...
Why are these movies offensive?
I have not seen Soul Man since the early 90's and the Bill Cosby reference is what I remember most as The Cosby Show was still a juggernaut in syndication.
That’s why we were lucky to see them in theaters and then on home video back in the 80s! I don’t know any of today’s movies that will still be as beloved 40 years later, much less remembered. These movies played all summer long and now movies play a week before going to steaming to get lost in the shuffle. I’m sick of today’s generation of tik tok creators criticizing classic and all time favorite movies when they have no idea what a good movie is. Movies are meant to entertain and enlighten when possible.
I can't tell whether the overly woke narration is sincere or ironic.
It's neither. It's just saying information gathered from sites and remarks left by others over the years and what happened from then to now.
Revenge of the nerds 5 nerds extremely rich now has all the jocks unalived
Amazon just made Totally Killer, which is about a high school serial killer and there is a mean girls sequel coming out. There are plenty of movies about high school murders and bitch clubs. Even teen suicide. Heathers would totally be made today, and will be.
I had no idea that Fisher Stevens played the Indian character in Short Circuit
Yet when Eddie Murphy does the opposite, its fine???!!!
Oh yeah that’s right Soul Man can’t come out today cause who wants to go to Harvard anymore 😂
Incorrect. You could make all these movies today people would still enjoy them.
Heathers are the real mean girls.
Sixteen Candles would get destroyed these days also lol one of my favorites
Yeah.That one I can get. Especially since molly is all over the net screaming rape. Completely excusing the blonde goes down on farmer ted. first
It's incredible how puritanical today's culture is.
Most of of all media needs to be viewed in the context in which they were created. Books of centuries before and films of the last century or so viewed today will trigger those looking tone triggered. BTW, Porkys, Bachelor Party, and Can't Buy me Love would make people go nuts today, however in context they were made weren't that bad. Movies today suck because creativity has been so diminished nothing can be made without pissing someone off.
The Toy was a big movie when I was a kid and it’s been pretty much air brushed from history now
This is true of all movies from all eras. They should be viewed in the context they were filmed. I just hope that banishment or banning or overediting of these films should discouraged. A brief warning should satisfy.
The only one that I have seen is Heathers even though I remember when the others came out I had no real desire to see them... I think your list is pretty Spot On though with this New Sensitive World that is far less caring than it was back in the 70s up to the early 2000s, there would be many more..!
in "The Toy," there were two comedic greats: Richard Pryor, a stand-up comedy legend (a dirty comic ("Car Wash," feat. George Carlin & Franklin Ajaye; "Live at the Sunset Strip" comedy concert film) who was usually paired with Gene Wilder ("Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory"; comic Paul Mooney helped write his & Eddie Murphy's material) and Jackie Gleason ("The Honeymooners" sitcom; "The Jackie Gleason Show"); I have read that the spoiled rich kid, Eric Bates (Scott Schwartz), had turned out to be a Corn Star. Back in the 1970's, "Blazing Saddles" was both directed and co-written by Mel Brooks and 4 other people: Richard Pryor, & three other guys. Fisher Stevens' Ben Jabituya (from "Short Circuit") 1990's equivalent would be like Hank Azaria as "Apu N(ahasapeemapetilon,) the shop owner of the Kwik-E-Mart in the long-time cartoon series, "The Simpsons." Much later (in 2017), comic Hari Kondabolu created a documentary called "The Problem with Apu."
If your kids get affended kickk them out of the house
This idea that movie cant get made today because of people being sensitive isnt right. Because movie standards were so much more harsh back then in comparison, hell they put waring and up rating to 18 if there was any gay or lesbian characters. So many movies rated 18 back then would be rates 15 or 12 today , before that interacial couples where completely banned in tv and movies. Trust me any gay representative that we see today in movies, its the bare minimum that the studio allowed it as the cut scene from the original screenplay
The onlt thing that was super problematic was how rape and Sexual assault was depicted. Its what cultivated rape culture. Because they made it in to a joke of boys being boys.
Here is the thing this still happens in movies and TV shows the difference is its not glorifying it and making it clear that its a crime.. We see this all the time in legal dramas and police tv show all the Time.
Can we also stop using the word banned to when talking about this . Because the only time movies are.banned are in countries in the middle east , Russia, china. From everything from sex , LGBT characters, anything that goes against that countries politics like china banning anything that has Tibet in it these are thing's that are banned movies.
One thing i do dislike is UA-camr misrepresent how it works. Its very lazy. Labelling it Hollywood like some entity that makes movies. Not understanding the dichotomy between creator and publishing studio
OMG!!! What has happened to this world. Sooooo soft! IT IS ACTING!
I think this says something about society, not the movie....😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨
A couple of movies that comes to mind for me is “The Jerk” and “Trading Places”. I doubt those would fly today.
Why? I haven't seen em in ages. Refresh my memory about them,as to what wouldn't fly?
Soul Man was a great movie, there really were Suntanning Pills. I was in my 20's in the 1980s and thought about trying the pills but I lived close to a beach so I never tried them. I wonder if they really worked? 🤔
I disagree with Heathers being problematic. Parents talk to your kids
Add Risky Business, The Last American Virgin, and Better Off Dead to the list too
even as a kid i knew revenge of the nerds had issues. luis pretends to be betty's boyfriend. they bang. and now she's in love with him.
Well..She could just insisted on him taking of his mask. He tricked her at best. Woouldn't call it rape though
Richard Pryer was annoying as hell, in all his movies...................... But the rest is just movies being stories. Stories, and not reality...... Some were offended - OH NO.... Offended - OH NO
So it's wrong to have a movie like Soul man but okay to have White Chicks? To be fair I hated both equally.
It is sad what has happened to the movie making industry, everyone in it has gotten to the point they don't want their precious feelings to get hurt and put wknss in every movie being made. All the proof you need is to check out the movie theatres that no one is going to.
This is why all modern movies suck.
Revenge of the Nerds is by far middle school shenanigans by today’s standards of what goes on with hazing at colleges all over the US.
People need to learn to toughen up and not be such huge wimps.
The movies listed were classics of that decade. I had seen all of them when they were released. The problem with them now is that more people are offended (read: Woke culture) by their topics. The public just can't accept that they were movies OF THAT TIME. Things are vastly different now, and that these movies should teach one thing: appreciate history for what it is...HISTORY.
These aren't the only 80s films, that couldn't be made today. A few others come to mind, like Trading Places, Parents, Sleepaway Camp, even 48 Hours, to a degree. All awesome flicks, mind you, exactly like the ones, in this video. Though, tbh, i've never really found the Toy, to be very funny, & do have to wonder what they were smoking, when they greenlit that one, lmao! I do love all the others covered here, as well as the ones i mentioned above. Something really awesome that does come out of all these films perceived "offensiveness", is that they can & do inspire deep discussions about all these taboo subject matters. Btw, my fave films covered here are Short Circuit, Soul Man, & Heathers. I love Revenge of the Nerds, too, & i'm struggling, truly struggling, to find any racism, in that flick, as the article, in the video claims! Where's the racism, in Revenge of the Nerds???
Oh, the stereotypes are all over that movie. Racist, classist, sexist and really, just about everything. Because it's all thrown in, the various offenders seem to cancel each other out.
Remember that that's ok...
Why would you want a 1985 movie in 2024?
Despite everyone being fatter now than in the 1980's, everyone has gotten SO thin-skinned.
Dark comedy will not work now but it did back then some movies are my favorite heathers
To the commentator who made the video. You’re in that same group of people. Who are the reason we couldn’t make these movies today! Modern/new doesn’t automatically equal = Better!
Revenge of the Nerds is by far middle school shenanigans by today’s standards of what goes on with hazing at colleges all over the US, it’s a travesty.
No one had any issues till 5 years ago. F em.
Screw the minority. Let's make movies like this again and I guarantee they will be hits. Yes, a percentage will complain, but who gives a crap. Ignore them.
In regards to the Short Circuit movie, my son is the fifth, and of course, I am the fourth. Our name is John, and since he's the fifth, we embrace the Johnny5 character. We are working on trying to get a replica Johnny5 mini statue.
Yeah some things have changed for the better and some for the bad. Too many people need to stop being uptight and getting offended by every little thing.
Making content to avoid offending a tiny group of the most miserable people on the planet is why we no longer have good movies
Hell, people today would be triggered by "Home Alone" because they might think it encourages "child abandonment".
If people think society has improved look at our past 2 presidents lmfao
regarding Short Circuit, why did they not cast an indian actor in the Fisher Stevens role, very bad choice.
Because today's world is full of woke snowflakes.
Lets face it, if the Toy character were white and the billionaire were.black, it would be Oscar nominated.
I still have my copy of The Toy and my copy of Short Circuit.
We were to culturally advanced for todays society .
Hahahahahahah.Best line ever.
Technically the idea of revenge of the nerds was more about underdog nerds in going against the hypocrisy of Greek life in 1980s colleges and in by singling out the bullying in by being the better person and winning over the people within their college and that was more popular in pop culture at the time of the 80s and goes for the same thing for like say Ghostbusters because that be like saying the same thing for that movie too
I feel theres a huge difference between entire movies that would not fly today vs just certain scenes that would not be acceptable. Obviously The Toy, as a concept is wrong. But what's wrong with Revenge of the Nerds if you remove the assault at the end?
Thanks for pointing out how much better Hollywood and life used to be......
I'm pretty sure that Short Circuit COULD, in fact, be remade. The cast would just be people from those nationalities/cultures instead of a white guy getting cast as an Indian. Also, there are hundreds of thousands of movies that play off of stereotypes. I've seen movies that have Irish stereotypes. Pointing out that these movies wouldn't be made today is really short-sighted. A lot of movies ARE being remade today with the proper people in those roles. There are movies being remade that change the whole cast. Look at the uproar that happened when a lovely young woman played the live remake of The Little Mermaid. People WILL ALWAYS find something to complain about instead of trying to enjoy a movie/story.
12years a toy was the name but it was bill cosby as the toy.he left the picture, all the female costars were falling asleep
All these movies were awesome I'm showing most of them to my teenage son who loves them this generation is way too sensitive
It's odd to criticize HEATHERS for featuring murder and references to oppressing of marginalized peoples - because that's what the film is ABOUT... it's not condoning these things, it's CONDEMNING them. The Heathers are bullies. JD and Veronica are trying to lean into the bigotry of the bullies and yuppies. The tone is one of social satire meant to spin the homophobia and fatphobia as BAD things. I think people miss context and are quick to freak out about the mere inclusion of challenging subject matter but I've seen less conscious films come out in the last 15 years, frankly.
The comments are giving me back some faith in humanity 😂😂😂