@Dilan Arrelanes Most of us here care about Kendall herself aswell, it's why we watch. If I wanted just the story I could read an article online in two seconds flat and get the gist from that. Basically we enjoy HER, not just the story. Feel free to watch however you want, just be aware we're not all here only for the one reason
The lesson my grandma taught me as a young girl: "Make sure another woman's tears are never on your shoulders"...according to her, nothing good can happen after that.
Mark didn’t have to cheat on his wife. Meredith didn’t have to start an affair with a married man. Janaire certainly didn’t have to kill Meredith. Humans make dumbass decisions every day
@@ellabetful they didnt just decide to start a life together. They cheated first. No one would have cared if they did the decent thing and divorced before cheating.
@@ellabetful agreed! 👏🏽 she murdered someone. she chose to plan out a murder. A "normal" human can not do that regardless of reason. she thought about ending another person's life and actually acted on it. she could have just as easily left Mark when she found out about the affair, but she wanted Meredith dead. That is not even close to a normal response to an affair. She is psychotic and she hid it well until she didn't.
@@ellabetful Im not saying poor Jennair. She absolutely shouldn't have killed someone. But Meredith and Mark aren't without blame. Mark more so than anyone. He should have divorced her before he cheated (Meredith should have also divorced her husband). He absolutely should have ended things before making Jennair pack up and move to him. If Jennair would have killed just Mark and herself Im sure many people would not be defending him as being just a victim. And Meredith is just as responsible for the affair as Mark. Its a shitty ending to something that didn't have to happen.
I always advice women who get cheated on to remember Shania Twain. Her husband of 15 years cheated with Shania's best friend, and wanted to split up to start a relationship with her. Shania was devastated, and at one point begged her husband not to leave her. But he did and moved on with his mistress. What happened? Shortly after the divorce, Shania met this sexy Swiss-French hunk (a MAJOR upgrade from her ex) and they live together in paradise. The lesson here is if your husband wants to leave, let him. The sooner he leaves, the sooner you'll find your Swiss-French dreamboat.
I don’t think she just met him - wasn’t he the guy her best friend was married to when she had the affair? I’m almost positive they basically just swapped husbands hahaha (minus her best friend and husband being terrible people and doing such an awful thing to their spouses and best friend.) power move, honestly 😂
This is what I was thinking. Why go through all that? He's obviously checked out. Just divorce and be on your way. He wasn't worth all that time and physical and mental energy. There was no need for recordings and all of that tracking nonsense. First piece of evidence was all she needed.
If he wants to leave, let him go. After my husband left I was in agony. My father had always been my rock and two years after my husband had left, my father died suddenly. My last conversation with my father was me still crying over my ex-husband. I realized I had spent two years surrounded by people who loved me, focused only on someone that didn’t. I learned not to waste our precious time on those who don’t love us. Just let that person go, let yourself grieve, and then let yourself heal.
Agree I was in a 15 year relationship I just felt time was wasting be with my boyfriend there was no spark anymore no communication at all so I left now im happy and focusing on myself
The fact that they were living together and he was ''spending quality time'' with Jenaire right up until the end of his divorce, and that she got so upset about that condom leaves room to assume he was in an intimate relationship with both women at the same time and may not have been honest with them both. We only know his side of the story and I think there is more to it. All three made bad decisions.
That would make sense. I mean Jenaire would've known that meredith and mark will have been sleeping together she wasn't an idiot so for her to become so enraged that she kills the other woman because she found a used condom doesn't make sense unless he was sleeping with or trying to again be in some kind of romantic relationship with both of them. Jenaire still guilty as hell though, she absolutely didn't have to kill meredith or herself.
I don't know. It sure sounds like Mark and Jenaire were over, but she just refused to accept it. She did everything she could to try and keep him from leaving, even though it was clear he didn't want to. I think Jenaire and Mark may not have lasted, and Meredith might have moved on with her life and met her true love...but she had some kind of mental illness that prevented her from seeing a better future.
Exactly! Going through trash, spying, recording him, committing murder, then killing herself over a man. It’s actually crazy. If a man isn’t happy with you, let him go. Being jealous and crazy doesn’t change anyone’s mind.
Mark has become an advocate for mental health. Isn't that nice? Maybe he should become an advocate for not being a jerk, and sleeping around when you're married.
Seriously.. why don't people just get a divorce or wait until they finish with one relationship?? I'm someone who was cheated on after 17 years of marriage... just finish it.. don't douple dip!!!
I mean most lifetime movies are based on true crime, so it might be in the next year .. I remember the Jodi arias movie came out RIGHT after it happened as if they started production the second the story broke. It’s actually kind of disturbing lol
Wow this sounds eerily similar to the movie Acrimony where the wife went mad after watching her husband happily move on with another younger and succesful woman.
My husband did the same thing to me. We married in college and after he was commissioned into the Air Force and became a fighter pilot, he changed drastically. He said I didn’t praise him enough, and that this person did. We were living overseas when he told me he had already begun divorce proceedings and I had to take my daughters and leave Germany immediately. I was devastated!! I went to talk to someone at the mental health clinic on base. I remember the doctor asked me if I was suicidal or homicidal and I told him that no man is worth going to jail or losing my life for.
@@frenchappletarte3252right! “SHE shits in my shoes and smells like milk, unlike YOU.” Lmao when a person wants out they find ANYTHINGGGGG in the affair partner to justify their shit behavior instead of just being honest and filing for a damn divorce. 😂
Praise him enough? Was he supposed to be your god? Ridiculous. Men really move on up in their careers and suddenly think their 💩 doesnt stink, then feels like they need an “upgrade”🙄
Your mama is a very smart woman. Sorry but there are too many men out there for me to hold on to one for dear life. You don’t want my fine ass anymore? There’s the door and I’ll enjoy my own company until I decide I want another one. Value yourself ladies.
If you want to cheat, just talk to your partner about it and how you can fix it, and if you can't, then you could just break up/divorce. Who knows, maybe your partner will even be okay with you cheating. But its always okay to get out of a relationship if you dont want to be in it, and its never okay for your partner to do something you dont want them to, even with small things like making jokes about you, or getting mad at you because you look at random hot people, or telling you that you cant go see your friends. Again, only if you dont want them to.
My dad had an affair and left my mom after 25 years of marriage for a woman twenty years younger than him. He also would have my mom come over to "talk about things". She full-on thought that things would work out. I have zero sympathy for Mark. Watching my mom go through what my dad put her through was a nightmare. Anyone that can do that to someone they "love"...truly horrible people.
So was he suppose to be miserable for the rest of his life just to make Her feel better? 🤨🤨 SORRY BUT MAYBE Your MOM WAS THE REASON. Sorry but NOT SORRy. This man fell in love with someone and tried to do Everything right and now his life is ruined because his ex was a fkn psycho lunatic. PEOPLE LKKE U Should BE IN A MENTAL HOSPITAL. Giving me Gerardot s vibe. IF IT WAS A MAN THAT WAS IN GETARDOTS POSITION YOU WOULD BASH HIM AND CALL HIM A FKN PSYCHO. The double standards here is disturbing
@@vandanacasm it would drive anyone crazy when you continue to listen the conversation of affair of you lover, and that was her biggest mistake, she crossed the line by breaking privacy. She was smart but in the end she used it against her in a negative way in my opinion.
@@hetokaachumi5181 I agree. I understand how painful it is, but in my opinion the only thing to do at that point is to walk away. Even if he was not with Meredith, she would never trust him again. I've been in that situation, like not recording, just finding messages from other women and it hurts so bad, it's awful and it does drive you crazy, specially if you obsess over it. But she took it super far. She should have stopped, not for him, but for herself. She only hurt herself, she already knew what she needed to know, so what is the point of listening to it over and over? It's tempting, but in the end it's only self-destructive. In this particular case, 3 lives affected and 2 just wasted. Sad story.
faith marquez-andersen As I said in another comment: since they met in the 80s (when ppl had kids young) and married young, had they had kids in their 20s, by the time all this happened, their kids would have been adults.
@@jegeriufanen4415 i dont see your point. even if they were adults its still hard to watch someone (the mother) go through depression and deal with this whole situation at her age. then to deal with their mother dying as a result. try to make more sense next time.
At the same time I’m not sure it would’ve ended the same had she had children. I feel that Mark was all she had. If she had kids she may not have been so obsessive about him. Who knows. Such a sad story.
My Mom cheated on my Father and then my Father cheated on my Step Mother, I can say as an adult now at 49 it really was awful as the child, shocking and hurtful, it was hard to get through.
Amen to that. My best friend of 7 years and my college bf cheated on me. They later married and were miserable, and had 2 troubled sons. Another ex was a malignant narcissist, a few years after we broke up he got married and after less than a year his new wife booted him out on his arse.
I hate that they call her “jealous “ no she was betrayed and heartbroken backstabbed …. She wasn’t jealous . Her whole life was destroyed . Mark deserves nothing . Jen and mark destroyed all their lives.
No, she was jealous. Both of those things can be true. She can feel betrayed, heartbroken and backstabbed while also being jealous. If she wasnt jealous, she wouldnt care who this person was that he was with. However she did care. She cared that she was younger, beautiful and successful. And thats fair! However, its not true that she lacked jealousy.
I thought so too by the idea that she killed her instead of him. But I think this is a worse torture for him, because he can't have the person he cheated for either. Either way, he is an a**hole and has a huge hand in the events unfolding as they did.
Plus jealous means you want something that isn't yours and feel it would look better on you, if I'm not mistaken. So I agree. Jealousy isn't quite the right word as she was Mark's and Mark was hers. Absolute bs that they called her jealous
it makes me laugh that women experience so much discrimination on a daily basis but there are men in these replies mad that someone said they have…audacity. if your extent of gender-based discrimination is a youtube comment, please expand your worldview.
Mark was an ass for dragging her along to another state knowing he wanted to get to know Meredith better and losing interest in his wife. He should have broken it off while she was still in SC. Never right to kill someone but I can't imagine giving someone 20+ years to be thrown away like that. I'd go crazy too.
@@lauradrinkwine7673 he had several weeks before his wife followed him... He could've easily broke it off before she moved her entire life to follow him and his mistress.
He cared so much about his wife's mental health that he had an affair while dragging her to another state, isolating her from everyone she knew, instead of talking to her and figuring things out like adults 🙄🙄🙄
It was all about him and no one else. He told Jennair he didn't know if it would work out with Meredith and didn't pursue a divorce right away for that reason. I found a podcast a bad bad bad thing that gives more details about this case because Jennair had kept a journal that was found saved in cloud.She became unhinged because of the betrayal, and never got the right sort of help to get through it.
A terrible relationship will leave you batshit cray, depressed, and insecure! And I’m speaking from experience. My daddy told me if you feel you have to go through his phone whatever you think is in there is in there, put it down and leave!
I can’t imagine moving to a new place and not have a support system. Just to have your husband cheat on you and move on. That has to mess with your psyche
@@soundescape4653 it’s not always that easy. Moving is expensive even more so when it’s a whole new state and she had already rented their home out to someone else.
@@ashauntioates7328 I get that but if you think you might murder someone take the financial L and do what you gotta do... (for example ask family or friends for help, it is hard but it is a better option then murder suicide!) she also managed to buy a gun, bullets and other stalking supplies and had enough money to open her own bank account. I can empathize and still realize she was completely in the wrong and avoided steps that could’ve prevented harm.
I kind of saw it coming towards the middle because Kendall kept talking about the girls in a past tense. I knew Jennair was going to die for sure because she said since the beginning that "we only have Marks version of the story."
If Jennair decided to kill someone, I'm not sure why her cheating husband wasn't number one on her list. Her killing the mistress and herself but leaving him alive is just bizarre.
Right? Or why not bring that dirt to court and get a decent alimony payout. Or at least take her out right in front of him and then shoot his penis off before killing yourself. At least leave him without his junk.
@@AFBudgets Have you read the book? Do you know where the proceeds are going? You have no idea Mark was a narcissist. I definitely don't agree with his and Meredith's affair. It's horrible, betraying, and destroyed 2 families. But you have no proof he was a narcissist. It takes 2 to tango, and it sounds like there were problems in Mark and Jennair's marriage long before the affair.
I noticed that in Grey's Anatomy, Derek cheats on Addison with a younger woman named Meredith. In the parent trap, the dad leaves his wife and almost marries a younger woman named Meredith. Hmmm...
As someone who has been cheated on before, I can understand how the wife ended up snapping. It starts with a suspicion. Then the snooping. And if you don't catch yourself, you can fall into a full on downward spiral into crazy town. I personally thought about utilizing the spyware, recording devices, etc. It makes you feel crazy, and that can certainly lead to snapping. Luckily, I made the decision to just walk away. If they are cheating, it isn't worth your time, energy, freedom, or life. Now I am of the mindset that if I feel the urge to snoop, the relationship is probably over. This is an unnecessary tragedy. And I feel like all 3 of these people had their own roles in this happening. The husband is simply the only one left to take the fall. But they all played a part in this happening.
I’m so sorry you had to go through this :( my parent’s marriage ended after an awful affair and it destroyed my mom. I myself have also been cheated on too. Some people who have never experienced it don’t quite understand how it can really tear a person apart. I hope you’ve healed from that and that you never have to go through that again❤️
There are so many people that resort to murder out of a desire for control. I think she acted out of anger and a desire for control more than heartbreak. People experience heartbreak all the time and murder never crosses their minds. Even in situations much worse than this. He wasn't a habitual cheater. He fell in love with someone else. I think he should have compensated her for her making the move to a different state, and upsetting her life that way. But he couldn't force himself to love her if he just wasn't feeling it anymore. That's what Jenaire just couldn't accept. It infuriated her that he actually found a young, beautiful, intelligent, successful woman who loved him. She thought she had the upper hand in the relationship all those years. I think that's what pushed him away. I'm tempted to buy his book.
I think maybe if they had kids the tragedy could have been prevented. I think Jener felt all she had was Mark and nobody else. She moved to a different state, sold their house for him and he was going to move in with another woman and she probably felt backed into a corner. It’s so sad because Mark was her life and he did her so wrong smh...
Well since they met in the 80s (when ppl had kids young) and married young, had they had kids in their 20s, by the time all this happened, their kids would have been adults.
He’s trying to help those struggling with mental health issues to prevent this situation from happening again. I think if he was a real twisted person he would have gone a different route but it sounds like the only thing people care about is the fact that he cheated on his wife. She still killed another human
Amber Vizcarra he's helping people with mental illness to prevent this situation from happening again? I mean it could have been prevented by HIM BEING LOYAL. He caused this. The kind of pain he caused her can cause mental illness. I have been through it. Pain does a lot of mental harm.
He’s a total narcissist. All he wanted was constant attention and to have his ego stroked by women who were honestly much too good for him, and now he wants his narcissistic supply again from the public by writing this book. He doesn’t have the capability to love anyone but himself. He is a revolting human being.
Sadly I have been in Jennairs's shoes. I get how jealousy drives you insane knowing your marriage is ending because your spouse is in love with someone else, and the "bad guys" get their happy ending. I wished every day that my ex and his mistress would get their karma to come back 10x but so glad I decided to eventually walk away when I realized saving my mental health was more important than saving my marriage.
Karma does come. My ex remarried. Now, they're raising her grandson because his new stepdaughter overdosed on heroin and died. I didn't wish that kind of karma on her. I cant imagine losing a child.
I wished my nasty narcissist ex would get hit by a bus, and he ran his motorcycle into a car. I felt sorta bad. Not REAL bad 😂 PS I watch out for cars and buses since finding out karma does work.
I went through a divorce after my ex’s infidelity. We were married for 28 years, so it was very mentally taxing. It was one of the hardest things I’ve ever been through. I have never had mental health issues, but for 2-3 weeks after finding out about the infidelity I was on the brink of a mental breakdown. One of the contributing factors was lack of sleep. I hardly sleep for almost 3 weeks. I said things to him I’m not proud of. After starting medication to help sleep, I was better the next day. I think lack of sleep was probably one of her biggest issues. 😢
Wasn't the lack of sleep....that sleepless nights were bc you realized that your life has changed forever...I hope and I'm sure you are so much better now
my brother is being cheated on by his partner of 26 years...his sleep was fucked up and probably still is, i hate that he started drinking again and that she enabled it, after hes been sober for years
Now Mark is in love with his writing coach because he thought of a clever sentence, so she patted him on the head and said "Who's a good boy. Yeesss.. Who's my good boy"!? He's not very complicated..
Better is subjective. In this case I don't think Meredith would have been too interested once Mark got his divorce was finalized. I think she liked (and maybe him too) the deceitful part of it. Even though they were so in love they certainly weren't rushing to be divorce their spouses to be together.
Yes. Your time, energy, and presence are valuable and deserve to be given to someone who wants, and will reciprocate, those things. Straight up. Not saying it doesn’t hurt, but the pain over the loss of a relationship will lessen with time. The pain of being repeatedly rejected, ignored, by someone you’re choosing to stay with, will not.
@@grainyveg7557 She also listened in on them with recording devices causing herself more pain and anger. She was a smart, very intelligent woman who could have found somebody else.
This is hands down one of my biggest fears.... To be married and loyal to a man for 25 years and then once I am in my 50s he gets with someone half my age, and someone who could be our kids age pretty much. My dad did this to my mom... :/ & he abandoned me and my bro to live the lifestyle of a 20 something yr old... god I think about it all the time and I almost don't even want to date because I am so scared of that because I feel like I would lose my shit as well.
I’m so sorry you, your brother and mom had to go through this. I fear the same after reading these stories as well as fearing that if my husband was to find someone else he’ll murder me to get me out of the way instead of telling me the truth. Being single really doesn’t seem like a bad idea for now
It happened to me 😢 the love of my life left me for the girl he told me “not to worry about” basically, I had my suspicions, but I trusted him with my whole heart. We have 2 girls, and he left us all and went to be with the girl 10years younger than him and I. 3 years later and I’m still mourning and grieving the person that used to exist. I just found out today…they just had a baby, I had no clue, he left me 2 weeks after I had a miscarriage. It’s like a million needles piercing my head and heart every time something reminds me of what my life used to be. My poor girls feel so abandoned because he’s got “the family he wanted, not the family he had” It’s really tough I tell ya 😐
Happened to me... now in my 40’s, a single mom with lupus, he remarried, had a baby, and then they divorced. I’m much better, but it’s been about 8 years. Still depressed, lonely, and regret so much. I see how someone can fixate on the new woman as I did, but in the end, it rarely lasts and you see it was him all along.
The fact that they were living together and he was ‘spending quality time’ with Jenaire right up until the end of his divorce leaves room to assume he was in an intimate relationship with both women at the same time and may not have been honest with them both. I don’t think he handled the situation right and it got out of control.. this is probably why he forgives Jenaire to some degree? 🤷♀️
I disagree with the notion of Jennair's thinking that "if I can't have him, nobody can." I think it was simply and more accurately "I won't be wronged."
Me too, because she left him behind and he could easily repartner. If she had taken the "if I can't have him no one can" approve, it's him she would have shot.
Yes!!! Not all relationships work out, sometimes people fall out and find other people that they have better chemistry with. Mark and Jennair should have gotten a divorce once she found out about Meredith. Mark and Meredith should have started their own relationship. Meredith’s ex and Jennair should have forgiven, let go, moved on, and found new relationships.
If you love someone, set them free. If they come back they're yours; if they don't they never were. I feel like it all comes down to destiny and finding your soulmate. Mark and Jennair were not destined to stay together, and were not soulmates. They were never meant to be. Jennair couldn't accept this. She should have let him go and moved on with her life. She probably would have found someone who made her happier than Mark ever did. But she had some kind of mental illness. People get divorced everyday and move on with their lives. It's painful. It hurts. It feels like your life has ended. But you've got to show some self-respect....you can't force someone to love you and you can't force someone to stay with you against their will.
Same. 😂 like. Am I supposed to be sad for her? She cheated on her husband with a married man. Mark trying to end on good terms and getting mad about being recorded when he lied in the first place? “Feels bad” about kissing her but not about going on the date in the first place?! I hope you never find happiness too. Lol
We have to remember that not only did he cheat after 20 years, but also he gave her enough hope that the marriage would be stable that she sold the house and moved across the country, where she was in a place where the only people she knew where her husband and his mistress. It must have been so isolating and I’m not shocked that she went insane- it must have been all she could think about (I’m not excusing murder though)
Trying hard to find sympathy for anyone in this case. Why any woman would think being with a cheater is some kind of prize is beyond me. These men ain't shit, ladies. Always remember that.
It sucks but people even cheat when everything is going well...people suck. And then they claim that monogamy sucks- if you cannot commit to a relationship then do not commit to begin with?
@@NikkieTwix if you read his book he was still telling her he didn't want to end it. He wanted to stay in both relationships. He wasn't even honest about the affair until like 2 months before she killed Meredith and herself. And she still wanted to be in the marriage. Plenty of marriages come back from infidelity. She had a right to want to work on a 24 year marriage. Mark did not have a right to have an affair regardless of his feelings.
My husband cheated on me. I did everything what Jenair did. From recording phone calls, confronting the mistress, confronting him. How he slapped me to go away as he didn't love me anymore. How the mistress told me not to bother her or them. How I thought I'd flash their story in social media. How I'd slap her in public, etc. But at the end, I left him. I didn't do anything to them. I didn't ask for alimony from husband. Now m happy on my own. I focus on myself how to improve myself. How to be more happy. I hvnt forgiven them but I want to be good myself. I don't care what they are upto now. M in peace now. 🙏
@@ohitsarcangel2182 thank you for your concern. M much better off than those years with him. I have dogs now. But I still have flash backs of what happened, small small things also remind me and my mood would be off suddenly. PTSD is really bad. It's been 2 years l left him but m still struggling to forget what happened. I can't open up to anyone. I have trust issues. M better off leaving him but m suffering from PTSD. Praying I'll recover soon.
@@seilrang Your never going to forget what happen. Its trauma but you can only learn to be at peace with yourself and know you were not at fault. You control what other people do only how you react to it and what you are willing to tolerate.
@@Bri-nc8yp thank you for your kind words. And you are right about not forgetting. It's been 3 years but i find myself lost in the flashbacks of what my ex used to treat me. It's frustrating. Life will be never be normal again.
That is what happens when you rush into marriage. He is a helpless romantic, and she is a jealous control freak. Both didn't date enough to know how many other companions there are. They rushed into everything. They didn't really know who they are.
@@shplms Having a reason why people do the things they do is not equate to excuses. They've done no internal work on themselves which is why this all manifested in the 1st place. When you rush into marriage without doing any internal work on yourself, this is the results that lead to their actions. Death doesnt happen everytime, but disfucntion does. They fell out of love because they don't know who they are outside of their relationship. The relationship defined their self. Not their self defining the relationship. In the 20 years they were complacent, almost disfunctional with whatever childhood insecurities they had. (Jeniere had abandonment/jealously issues, and Mark probably never had much female attention growing up. And have a passive stance with women, but still want both. Similar to Chris Watts)
I’m not justifying murder by any means, but Mark and Meredith were clearly horrible people. Cheating is disgusting and really hurts and damages lives. Mark doing everything he did was disgusting and Meredith willingly getting with a married man WHILE also married omg 🙄
I was thinking I woulda been so out and living my best life, but I'm 30 and this woman was almost 50. She probably felt so unattractive and that it was too late to start over. Plus they made a decision not to have kids together, leaving her all alone when he decides to go be with a younger woman he could potentially start a family with. Super sad. I feel for her.
My husband did the same to me, and it’s a very painful situation but I would never give him or her the satisfaction of ruining my life. I wouldn’t ruin my life and my daughters life so someone who doesn’t deserve it. The best revenge is to live a happy life and push forward 😄😄
Girl, im sorry this happened to you. I completely agree, for mental sanity you need to move forward. Its sad that when crap like this happens to us we have to be the bigger person and move on but its just a testament to how strong we are and unfortunately how weak our partners are. I wish you and your daughter happiness!
I wonder how Meredith’s ex husband felt when he first learned his ex wife was killed by the wife of the man she was having an affair with…..that’s pretty deep
This is why I can't fully understand the sympathy for Meredith. The husband of the woman she killed now has to have the anger and betrayal of her cheating and leaving him and now has to grieve her loss. Very complicated emotions. He is the true victim of this story as he was able to control himself as an adult. Meridith was clearly having a mental health crisis and was experiencing severe depression if she was willing to take her life and the sad thing is I feel like if she was able to get the help she needed no one would have died but as someone who has suffered with depression for years I am not dangerous and I would never kill someone who wronged me. If she were alive she should have gone to jail.
@@zak27986 Oh I meant to say Jennifer I mixed the woman's names up! I was referring to the killer having a mental health crisis. One of us messed the names up it might have been me.
I'll never understand why someone thinks: If my new lover cheated on his/her mate.....What makes me think he/she won't cheat on me. Once a cheater always a cheater.
Why is he a scumbag? He was married to a psycho and wanted out, what part of that makes him a scumbag? She was the scumbag, murdered the girl to make sure he could never be happy.
@@PandemicEv the cheating is what makes him a scumbag. Wanting to leave a marriage is fine but you can’t start dating someone behind your spouses back.
By him saying he can’t forgive Jen for what she did to Meredith shows that sadly he loved his mistress more than his wife of over 20 years. This makes me really sad for Jen and makes me empathetic towards how she felt when she killed Meredith. He really did make her do it.
honestly, the fact that you’re even trying a new setup means a lot. quarantine has taken a toll on all of us and i appreciate your continuous effort. thank you kendall.
Meredith's husband was the most responsible person in the whole story. Like he learned she was cheating so he got a divorse and moved on with his life. The story could have been much worse if he did something similar to Jenniar.
as someone who has been cheated on (and not murdered) i can honestly say the people saying they drove her to murder are crazy. she had the ability to let go and walk away and she chose to kill. they are all horrible people.
I'm so sorry that Jennair thought all of her worth was wrapped up in Mark. She would have been just fine without him. I just listened to the new podcast on this sad situation and he really jerked Jennair around and played with her head about wanting her then not wanting her. What Jennair was going through was brutal but you can't kill people, nothing justifies that. So sorry for the families.
Are you dumb? You live 24 year with a man construct a life and for you it us fine that he f another, and the problem is the woman she shouldn't "wrap her life around the man? Loool no you don't sound smart or emancipated just a very superficial mind
Well I mean mental health is serious it’s clear she wasn’t in the right state of mind. She’s responsible for the murder of one but remember she also took her own life.
@@bestgrays2117 right murderers are never in a right state of mind. Cuz people in a right state of mind don't kill people. She's not the victim in this case wtf, she lost the right to be the victim when she planned a murder for weeks cuz she was upset about a shitty guy.
If you're divorcing someone who can't accept that, constantly going on dates with them is not the most sensible thing to do. I seriously can't find any sympathy towards Mark in me at all.
I tried to read his book, got half way through and wanted to throw it across the room. He's a narcissist. Really tried to play the victim role. Disgusting.
Yeah I bet he did that a lot of times. What a shame he wasn't the one she killed since she just made him single and free to start dating other women. He didn't really care about the subject of the affair either. He was just so self-centred he never noticed anyone else he left in his path (when he thought he was better).
@@bellezanegra0206 yeah having him being interviewed was a waste and a show of poor acting skills. He didn't care about either of them and he doesn't feel sorry for what he did. I wonder how many women he's used since they've been dead.
@@MoreCoffeePlease. Yeaaa you see that would have never happened if she would have not gotten involved with a married man. Now a days there’s A LOT of mental issues, especially in the U.S….. so it’s not worth it
@@ltapias88 In a civilized society, even the US, the punishment for infidelity is not murder. In fact, it’s not even a civil or criminal infraction deserving of imprisonment. But please, do go on justifying *fatal corporal punishment* for a widely held moral violation. 🙄
I was wondering when someone was going to point that out. Like yeah, she clearly is a victim in all this but I can’t trust anyone who would choose to have those eyebrows. At no point in in any culture in the history of ever was that eyebrow shape ever acceptable. The brows tell me she was bad at making decisions.
Some of my biggest takeaways from allll the true crime I’ve consumed over the years - you are risking your life if you cheat on your partner, have a relationship with a married person, or if you tell your partner you will take away their kids or ruin them financially if they leave you. It’s never worth it. Do things the right way if you want to live. 😅
To any person in this situation: The best revenge is leaving them and living a better life with out them. No body is worth all this... the insane level of obsession with listening in on him and spying on him... even after he admitted to the affair like... no girl. Just leave him.
I wish she had felt mentally well enough to leave. Because Meredith strikes me as someone who only wanted the relationship because it was forbidden. I bet had the divorce gone through Meredith would have dumped Mark and then Jennair could have thrown a huge FU to Mark and gone on with her life. However Jennair wasn't wrong in wanting Mark to end the affair and stay in her marriage.
Imagine giving a man over 20 years of your life, 20 years of your youth and beauty, you have no kids, and right as you are about to enter into the second faze of of your life, growing old and retiring with the man you love, he cheats on you with a women 15 years younger than you. She was approaching 50 yrs old and was expected to start a new life alone. What she did was horrifying but that would make anyone without a strong support system go mental. Maybe not to her extent, but that’s a lot to go through if you don’t have any kids to lean on and not a strong support system of family and friends in place.
Yes many people are strong cuz of kids, they spent so much time together by not having kids and lived 20+ years doing life together 100% focused on each other, abd one day its over. Im not justifying the murder but it just breaks my heart what that poor woman was going thru.
It's extra sinister that Jennair left Mark alive. Think about how calculated and organized her entire operation was. She wanted him to live and suffer the guilt.
Um I don’t think so... A lot of females seem to place all the blame and hate on the other woman and will still love & stay with the guy who cheated. It happens so often.
it's amazing how the victim is portrayed so perfect...people don't understand just how it affects you until it happens to you...I choose to walk away and never look back.
Thats what I was thinking...if he was making it clear that there was no hope and he was with Meredith now why would she suddenly flip after finding a condom ? He probably was showing her more than he is telling.
I really don't feel sorry for Meredith or Mark. That man cheated on his wife, gaslit her, and kept lying to her until she found out herself. Then he cruelly states to his betrayed wife that he's super in love with Meredith and yet also continues to give his wife false hope by attending marriage counselling?? What a jerkass. If you're so unhappy with someone, do both of y'all a favour and leave them. He was definitely having sex with the wife and his mistress at the same time. Meredith didn't deserve to die but I feel little sympathy for her - she cheated on her own partner and willingly participated in the wrecking of someone's home with little to no shame. Both Mark and Meredith deserved each other. What the wife did is obviously wrong, but I feel the most sympathy for her. She did kill Meredith but she also killed herself :/
You feel bad for the wrong woman, that's just weak minded. Get over it and move on with your life, that's what Jennair should have done. If she was a decent human being with any self worth she wouldn't be dead right now.
@@IcySync I'm only captain stating the obvious because you're captain oblivious, your comment was moronic, how could you feel sympathy for a murderer and not the victim?
JP Lalibertad uhh- she wasn't a victim? 💀. of course she died but the other woman also died. and Meredith knew that he had a wife and she didn't respect that. she got with a married man and he said that and she was married as well. I have no sympathy for either of them. they all made a mistake. no one was innocent there.
@@yourmom964 Meredith is completely innocent, it is not illegal to cheat just because it hurts your feelings doesn't make it a crime. Meredith was not happy in her relationship and neither was he, they should have been open about it from the beginning but that does not mean she deserves to die. Meredith seemed like a incredibly kind woman , successful, and beautiful. So of course people like you are gonna hate on her.
I agree. No men is gold enough to stand cheating. He probably would've left Meredith too. I mean seriously did he expect there to be sparks in relationship all the time? You're going to be attracted to other people doesn't mean you have to date all of them.
Why didn’t he just get a divorce first? There is literally no excuse for cheating. Maybe the situation would’ve played out differently if he decided to divorce first instead of cheating
Of course it would, but that doesn’t excuse Jenaire or make the two other even remotely responsible for their deaths. It was clear from the beginning Jenaire was a psychopath.
@@bigbird7748 She could've done all this if they divorced too. There's plenty of "crazy ex wife/girlfriend" stories. She could continue to blame them & use that to justify her actions in her head.
@@intuitive_duck no, not necessarily her mental health would be much better if she wasn't cheated on for a while cuz of younger woman and didn't have to leave her place for a new one, where she had no one to help and support her those events would make anyone mentally unstable besides its never said of her having jealousy problems in the past, so she is not "crazy ex wife/girlfriend" type of person, she just totally fell apart
i dont see you complaining bout kendall covering these stories for monetary gain, should he have wrote a book, probably not, but you cant sit there and complain about him writing a book and profiting off of it when youre literally watching this on a persons channel who takes in ad revenue or sponsorships, and no im not shitting on kendall, shes amazing
This is such a sad story. The husband showed zero restraint and set zero boundaries with that younger women. He was completely selfish. He lied to his wife and showed total disrespect. Women who are being lied to and betrayed like this get obsessed with finding out the truth and get very vindictive. I’ve always thought there should be a hotel for women to go to when faced with situations like this. A place that provides emotional support. A place to protect them from themselves, just to let time pass away from the toxic situation. I would probably go crazy if my husband did the same to me and would probably need to fly to CA to be with my family and grieve with them.
She put all that energy into making a man suffer....who then ended up writing a book to literally profit from it all. Her focus went all into the wrong person smh.
The wife was blindsided and heartbroken. I can understand her mentality at that moment. Just hurt, broken, angry, betrayed, just so many emotions for one person to handle. Anyone blindsided like that would be a total mess. She probably killed herself after she realized what she did or “snapped back into reality”. This was definitely planned, what she did was not right, but I do understand being blindsided and broken like this. I just wouldn’t kill someone over a selfish, cheating husband
Agreed. It's so weird when a man damages a woman so much to the point of making her go from a total chill point to being crazy and the husband still blame her for doing what she did. Hope people don't buy his book cause he is responsible for the two deaths
I have borderline personality disorder and I'm luckily in therapy for it but I got vibes of it from this case. Would like to know about the woman's upbringing and previous mental health record.
So I actually read it. I was so so hoping to find some compassion for Mark and Meredith. And it did the opposite. The whole book is about how Jennair was abusive to him and when Meredith came along and treated him so well he just couldn't help it. He basically mentally tortured Jennair and made her seem like this awful person while basically making it a love letter to Meredith. He even dedicated the book to her. Thankfully there are some passages where Meredith's true colors shine through showing how callous she truly was (not just to Jennair but her own husband) still overall she is painted as a victim and not at all culalpable for the murder.
@@heatherpolley8501 I feel like in that moment where she killed herself was because of this . She already killed the other woman, she realized this wasn’t worth living for and felt it was irreversible and she didn’t want to live with herself .
Mark was so selfish for letting his wife relocate to be with him, when he had clearly started an affair and had 2nd thoughts about their marriage. That was so conceited. She was alone, isolated from friends and the one person she trusted betrayed her.
can we just appreciate that kendall bought a whole chair for the background so we can see her pets 🥺
@VegaTron2020 Yeeesssa! who hurt you? 🙄
yea yea yea i’m here to hear the story not to. watch no pets
She's amazing 🥺💗
She’s literally the cutest lol
@Dilan Arrelanes
Most of us here care about Kendall herself aswell, it's why we watch. If I wanted just the story I could read an article online in two seconds flat and get the gist from that. Basically we enjoy HER, not just the story.
Feel free to watch however you want, just be aware we're not all here only for the one reason
The lesson my grandma taught me as a young girl: "Make sure another woman's tears are never on your shoulders"...according to her, nothing good can happen after that.
Dang. That is good.
Amen.
Well my best friend got with my then boyfriend, they're married with kids now.. 🙄
Very good advice!!!
You have a very wise grandmother. Bless her heart ❤️
Mark didn’t have to cheat on his wife. Meredith didn’t have to start an affair with a married man. Janaire certainly didn’t have to kill Meredith. Humans make dumbass decisions every day
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned
Agreed
@@ellabetful they didnt just decide to start a life together. They cheated first. No one would have cared if they did the decent thing and divorced before cheating.
@@ellabetful agreed! 👏🏽 she murdered someone. she chose to plan out a murder. A "normal" human can not do that regardless of reason.
she thought about ending another person's life and actually acted on it. she could have just as easily left Mark when she found out about the affair, but she wanted Meredith dead. That is not even close to a normal response to an affair. She is psychotic and she hid it well until she didn't.
@@ellabetful Im not saying poor Jennair. She absolutely shouldn't have killed someone. But Meredith and Mark aren't without blame. Mark more so than anyone. He should have divorced her before he cheated (Meredith should have also divorced her husband). He absolutely should have ended things before making Jennair pack up and move to him. If Jennair would have killed just Mark and herself Im sure many people would not be defending him as being just a victim. And Meredith is just as responsible for the affair as Mark. Its a shitty ending to something that didn't have to happen.
I always advice women who get cheated on to remember Shania Twain. Her husband of 15 years cheated with Shania's best friend, and wanted to split up to start a relationship with her. Shania was devastated, and at one point begged her husband not to leave her. But he did and moved on with his mistress. What happened? Shortly after the divorce, Shania met this sexy Swiss-French hunk (a MAJOR upgrade from her ex) and they live together in paradise. The lesson here is if your husband wants to leave, let him. The sooner he leaves, the sooner you'll find your Swiss-French dreamboat.
That dreamboat is also her husband’s mistresses ex husband ❤️ Go Shania!!
@@salenalemanski9752 exactly
Shania ended up marrying her former best friend's husband and the other relationship w/his wife and Mutt didn't last 2 seconds. :)
I don’t think she just met him - wasn’t he the guy her best friend was married to when she had the affair? I’m almost positive they basically just swapped husbands hahaha (minus her best friend and husband being terrible people and doing such an awful thing to their spouses and best friend.) power move, honestly 😂
Great advice and reminder
Imagine the sleep she was losing while she was messing with all those recordings. She truly went insane.
This is what I was thinking. Why go through all that? He's obviously checked out. Just divorce and be on your way. He wasn't worth all that time and physical and mental energy. There was no need for recordings and all of that tracking nonsense. First piece of evidence was all she needed.
She knew too much it drove her insane
Been together since they were so young obvious attachment issues she didn’t know what life would be without him
Do you love anyone
Do you love me
“He really liked how she looked in her Taco Bell uniform”- I’m sorry but 😂
I wonder if it's the same level as men in uniform 😂
I snorted
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That neighbor looked a little too excited to be interviewed for the news about a murder case.😂
Been waiting their whole life for that moment smh
I know. I was like why is she smiling like that????
omg same thoughts! she was wide eyed and grinning. creepy.
@@twinkstar7738 please list the time stamp 🥺🙈
24:20
If he wants to leave, let him go. After my husband left I was in agony. My father had always been my rock and two years after my husband had left, my father died suddenly. My last conversation with my father was me still crying over my ex-husband. I realized I had spent two years surrounded by people who loved me, focused only on someone that didn’t. I learned not to waste our precious time on those who don’t love us.
Just let that person go, let yourself grieve, and then let yourself heal.
I needed to see this. 💜
This comment was so powerful!! Wow!! Thanks for this lesson!! Also rip to your dad!
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Thank you for sharing this ❤️❤️
Agree I was in a 15 year relationship I just felt time was wasting be with my boyfriend there was no spark anymore no communication at all so I left now im happy and focusing on myself
The fact that they were living together and he was ''spending quality time'' with Jenaire right up until the end of his divorce, and that she got so upset about that condom leaves room to assume he was in an intimate relationship with both women at the same time and may not have been honest with them both. We only know his side of the story and I think there is more to it. All three made bad decisions.
my exact thoughts. i honestly don't believe men especially cheating men.
That would make sense. I mean Jenaire would've known that meredith and mark will have been sleeping together she wasn't an idiot so for her to become so enraged that she kills the other woman because she found a used condom doesn't make sense unless he was sleeping with or trying to again be in some kind of romantic relationship with both of them. Jenaire still guilty as hell though, she absolutely didn't have to kill meredith or herself.
I don't know. It sure sounds like Mark and Jenaire were over, but she just refused to accept it. She did everything she could to try and keep him from leaving, even though it was clear he didn't want to. I think Jenaire and Mark may not have lasted, and Meredith might have moved on with her life and met her true love...but she had some kind of mental illness that prevented her from seeing a better future.
this is what i’m thinking also.. sounds like he wanted the best of both worlds
this is exactly what i thought as well
Jenair put all this effort into keeping a man who didn’t even want her. Ladies, it’s never worth it.
Husband: I found someone else and I want to be with them.
Me: Go with God! Bye!
Exactly! Going through trash, spying, recording him, committing murder, then killing herself over a man. It’s actually crazy. If a man isn’t happy with you, let him go. Being jealous and crazy doesn’t change anyone’s mind.
This 👏🏽
Facts MARK EVEN TOLD HER HE FELL IN LOVE WITH SB ELSE SHE SHOULD JUST LEFT HIM
This
Girl you can’t fulfill everyone’s requests about a chair, lighting, all that. You could make videos in a box and I’m sure we’ll all listen
Agree thankyou for saying this♥️♥️
Awesome comment!!
I agree
Yesss! This is a fact
100% but I will say I greatly appreciate the seating idea for the pets lol
Mark has become an advocate for mental health. Isn't that nice? Maybe he should become an advocate for not being a jerk, and sleeping around when you're married.
won't be surprised if he writes a book. they always do lok
Exactly! Weird flex, when if he'd never had an affair this would all have been a non issue.
I know right
@@Nobody-xr9xzPretty sure he has 😂
He wrote a book 💀
When Kendall is over 30 minutes!!😍❤️
No but fr!!! I always get excited 😭
What just thinking that !
It’s really cool to see how the channel has grown.
Love it!!!
Totally!
Seriously.. why don't people just get a divorce or wait until they finish with one relationship?? I'm someone who was cheated on after 17 years of marriage... just finish it.. don't douple dip!!!
I’m uhhh 🙄 I iiiiii
Million dollar question
Because cheaters are selfish
He never deserved you. He'll get his part eventually.
This always blows my mind as well. How do you look someone you love in the eye and lie through your teeth.
This seems like the plot of a Lifetime movie.
I mean most lifetime movies are based on true crime, so it might be in the next year .. I remember the Jodi arias movie came out RIGHT after it happened as if they started production the second the story broke. It’s actually kind of disturbing lol
Yes i cant, like she was a spy
Inspiration is generally real life situations
Won’t be surprised if it ends up being a lifetime movie lol
Wow this sounds eerily similar to the movie Acrimony where the wife went mad after watching her husband happily move on with another younger and succesful woman.
My husband did the same thing to me. We married in college and after he was commissioned into the Air Force and became a fighter pilot, he changed drastically. He said I didn’t praise him enough, and that this person did. We were living overseas when he told me he had already begun divorce proceedings and I had to take my daughters and leave Germany immediately. I was devastated!! I went to talk to someone at the mental health clinic on base. I remember the doctor asked me if I was suicidal or homicidal and I told him that no man is worth going to jail or losing my life for.
The new woman always says and does everything the wife doesn't. Isn't that amazing
@@frenchappletarte3252right! “SHE shits in my shoes and smells like milk, unlike YOU.” Lmao when a person wants out they find ANYTHINGGGGG in the affair partner to justify their shit behavior instead of just being honest and filing for a damn divorce. 😂
Praise him enough? Was he supposed to be your god? Ridiculous. Men really move on up in their careers and suddenly think their 💩 doesnt stink, then feels like they need an “upgrade”🙄
It's a shame that she couldn't transfer her pain into becoming a private investigator. She would have been great at that.
Sounds easy, though it can be a lot more difficult and complicated for someone with severe psychological disorders to be able to think that way.
Yeah and reliving her trauma with all affair cases, sounds great
True that!!!
She was really good!!
@Ryleigh Odell 1
My mama always said never let a man tell you more than once that he doesn’t want you. What I won’t do is go crazy over a man!
That! Why do people lie to themselves!?
Your mama is a very smart woman. Sorry but there are too many men out there for me to hold on to one for dear life. You don’t want my fine ass anymore? There’s the door and I’ll enjoy my own company until I decide I want another one. Value yourself ladies.
Seriously
Your mama is on point. Men come and go, wellbeing is forever.
I agree with your mom too! If a man doesn't want to be with me? Adios!! My cat 🐈 is great company Anyway and he's my baby.
Moral of the story - don’t cheat! Even if it doesn’t end up in murder, it still destroys lives
YES
Agree
THIS
True.
If you want to cheat, just talk to your partner about it and how you can fix it, and if you can't, then you could just break up/divorce. Who knows, maybe your partner will even be okay with you cheating. But its always okay to get out of a relationship if you dont want to be in it, and its never okay for your partner to do something you dont want them to, even with small things like making jokes about you, or getting mad at you because you look at random hot people, or telling you that you cant go see your friends. Again, only if you dont want them to.
My dad had an affair and left my mom after 25 years of marriage for a woman twenty years younger than him. He also would have my mom come over to "talk about things". She full-on thought that things would work out. I have zero sympathy for Mark. Watching my mom go through what my dad put her through was a nightmare. Anyone that can do that to someone they "love"...truly horrible people.
So was he suppose to be miserable for the rest of his life just to make Her feel better? 🤨🤨 SORRY BUT MAYBE Your MOM WAS THE REASON. Sorry but NOT SORRy. This man fell in love with someone and tried to do
Everything right and now his life is ruined because his ex was a fkn psycho lunatic. PEOPLE LKKE U Should BE IN A MENTAL HOSPITAL. Giving me Gerardot s vibe. IF IT WAS A MAN THAT WAS IN GETARDOTS POSITION YOU WOULD BASH HIM AND CALL HIM A FKN PSYCHO. The double standards here is disturbing
She must of been driving herself crazy listening to his recordings every night and having no one to talk to about it all...
must have
She was a murderer don't feel bad for her
It would drive me crazy too 😭
@@vandanacasm it would drive anyone crazy when you continue to listen the conversation of affair of you lover, and that was her biggest mistake, she crossed the line by breaking privacy. She was smart but in the end she used it against her in a negative way in my opinion.
@@hetokaachumi5181 I agree. I understand how painful it is, but in my opinion the only thing to do at that point is to walk away. Even if he was not with Meredith, she would never trust him again. I've been in that situation, like not recording, just finding messages from other women and it hurts so bad, it's awful and it does drive you crazy, specially if you obsess over it. But she took it super far. She should have stopped, not for him, but for herself. She only hurt herself, she already knew what she needed to know, so what is the point of listening to it over and over? It's tempting, but in the end it's only self-destructive. In this particular case, 3 lives affected and 2 just wasted. Sad story.
I'm just glad they were smart enough to not have children.. I can't imagine how this would have turned out with children in the middle
faith marquez-andersen As I said in another comment: since they met in the 80s (when ppl had kids young) and married young, had they had kids in their 20s, by the time all this happened, their kids would have been adults.
@@jegeriufanen4415 i dont see your point. even if they were adults its still hard to watch someone (the mother) go through depression and deal with this whole situation at her age. then to deal with their mother dying as a result. try to make more sense next time.
At the same time I’m not sure it would’ve ended the same had she had children. I feel that Mark was all she had. If she had kids she may not have been so obsessive about him. Who knows. Such a sad story.
More ppl need this restraint IMO...
My Mom cheated on my Father and then my Father cheated on my Step Mother, I can say as an adult now at 49 it really was awful as the child, shocking and hurtful, it was hard to get through.
The best revenge you can give a mistress is to let her have him.
Amen to that. My best friend of 7 years and my college bf cheated on me. They later married and were miserable, and had 2 troubled sons. Another ex was a malignant narcissist, a few years after we broke up he got married and after less than a year his new wife booted him out on his arse.
Lol
I know right! Lol she’ll be doing her a favor
If the cheat with you they’ll cheat on you.
Nah burn her house down ❤️
I hate that they call her “jealous “ no she was betrayed and heartbroken backstabbed …. She wasn’t jealous . Her whole life was destroyed . Mark deserves nothing . Jen and mark destroyed all their lives.
No, she was jealous. Both of those things can be true. She can feel betrayed, heartbroken and backstabbed while also being jealous. If she wasnt jealous, she wouldnt care who this person was that he was with. However she did care. She cared that she was younger, beautiful and successful. And thats fair! However, its not true that she lacked jealousy.
I thought so too by the idea that she killed her instead of him. But I think this is a worse torture for him, because he can't have the person he cheated for either. Either way, he is an a**hole and has a huge hand in the events unfolding as they did.
@@bm-ww8kbridiculous comment. Anyone would be its called being human
@@diann3880 so you agree she was jealous….
Plus jealous means you want something that isn't yours and feel it would look better on you, if I'm not mistaken. So I agree. Jealousy isn't quite the right word as she was Mark's and Mark was hers. Absolute bs that they called her jealous
merediths ex husband is just over here like 👀👀damn
I shouldn’t be laughing this hard but just imagine him:🧍🏻♂️”damn” then continuing with life.
@@DanaeTuckerChannel 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@DanaeTuckerChannel I tried so hard not to laugh 🤣
I’m mad I laughed so hard!
LMAO
Eurgh. He wrote a book. The only thing men have is the audacity.
Jessica Evans You shouldn't generalize about all men like that, but yes he is a giant POS for monetizing this, it was his fault
Trueee
Lol @ all the triggered men in here
it makes me laugh that women experience so much discrimination on a daily basis but there are men in these replies mad that someone said they have…audacity. if your extent of gender-based discrimination is a youtube comment, please expand your worldview.
Honestly, if the bastard cheats on you, get over it, realize he’s not worth it and become a lesbian.
Mark was an ass for dragging her along to another state knowing he wanted to get to know Meredith better and losing interest in his wife. He should have broken it off while she was still in SC. Never right to kill someone but I can't imagine giving someone 20+ years to be thrown away like that. I'd go crazy too.
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I’m sure he didn’t know at that very time what he was going to do. He had feelings for Meredith, but it was still early.
@@lauradrinkwine7673 he had several weeks before his wife followed him... He could've easily broke it off before she moved her entire life to follow him and his mistress.
True
@@lauradrinkwine7673 you must date married men to be trying to justify this
He cared so much about his wife's mental health that he had an affair while dragging her to another state, isolating her from everyone she knew, instead of talking to her and figuring things out like adults 🙄🙄🙄
I had the same thought. He has a lot of nerve.
bingo
It was all about him and no one else. He told Jennair he didn't know if it would work out with Meredith and didn't pursue a divorce right away for that reason. I found a podcast a bad bad bad thing that gives more details about this case because Jennair had kept a journal that was found saved in cloud.She became unhinged because of the betrayal, and never got the right sort of help to get through it.
He deFinitely should have dumped her before that move!
Why dud Meredith buy such a huge houSe I wondered.
He was enjoying having control over Jennaire.
A terrible relationship will leave you batshit cray, depressed, and insecure! And I’m speaking from experience. My daddy told me if you feel you have to go through his phone whatever you think is in there is in there, put it down and leave!
TRUTH
Omg true i have been in this place uff i picked myself up on my own
GREAT advice!
That’s what I did
THIS!!!
I can’t imagine moving to a new place and not have a support system. Just to have your husband cheat on you and move on. That has to mess with your psyche
seriously thats SO awful
@@KendallRae but like just move back...
@@soundescape4653 it’s not always that easy. Moving is expensive even more so when it’s a whole new state and she had already rented their home out to someone else.
@@ashauntioates7328 I get that but if you think you might murder someone take the financial L and do what you gotta do... (for example ask family or friends for help, it is hard but it is a better option then murder suicide!) she also managed to buy a gun, bullets and other stalking supplies and had enough money to open her own bank account. I can empathize and still realize she was completely in the wrong and avoided steps that could’ve prevented harm.
It’s great. Let me tell you. Definitely enough to make you go crazy.
Entire time, I was thinking "Alright, which one of them is going to die?" Definitely didn't see that coming!!
Riiiight
I kind of saw it coming towards the middle because Kendall kept talking about the girls in a past tense. I knew Jennair was going to die for sure because she said since the beginning that "we only have Marks version of the story."
If Jennair decided to kill someone, I'm not sure why her cheating husband wasn't number one on her list. Her killing the mistress and herself but leaving him alive is just bizarre.
Maybe it was so he’d live miserably
@@Eponine_Sandonhe was a narcissistic. He did not. He wrote a book and profited from this
Same question I have. We know he all looking for the next woman to be with. I think it was a spur moment decision to end herself.
Right? Or why not bring that dirt to court and get a decent alimony payout. Or at least take her out right in front of him and then shoot his penis off before killing yourself. At least leave him without his junk.
@@AFBudgets Have you read the book? Do you know where the proceeds are going? You have no idea Mark was a narcissist. I definitely don't agree with his and Meredith's affair. It's horrible, betraying, and destroyed 2 families. But you have no proof he was a narcissist. It takes 2 to tango, and it sounds like there were problems in Mark and Jennair's marriage long before the affair.
I noticed that in Grey's Anatomy, Derek cheats on Addison with a younger woman named Meredith. In the parent trap, the dad leaves his wife and almost marries a younger woman named Meredith. Hmmm...
Guess we gotta watch out for people named Meredith lol
@@albani_christina Meredith’s and Karen’s! Lol
The dad was divorced from the wife before he even met Meredith lmao. She dumped him when he picked his daughters over her.
@@starrsmith3810 still the point is that she was considered "the other woman"
@@Ang.0910 Yep
Words to live by: Never, EVER, get involved with a married man. For probably five million very good reasons.
I went on1 date w/ a guy who lied about being single! Then I told him to man up & FO!!!
Exactly!
No kidding! I agree! People need to get their own spouse instead of interloping on someone else's marriage.
@@emalee-the-elf My exact same thought!! 💭
Same goes with married women
As someone who has been cheated on before, I can understand how the wife ended up snapping. It starts with a suspicion. Then the snooping. And if you don't catch yourself, you can fall into a full on downward spiral into crazy town. I personally thought about utilizing the spyware, recording devices, etc. It makes you feel crazy, and that can certainly lead to snapping. Luckily, I made the decision to just walk away. If they are cheating, it isn't worth your time, energy, freedom, or life. Now I am of the mindset that if I feel the urge to snoop, the relationship is probably over. This is an unnecessary tragedy. And I feel like all 3 of these people had their own roles in this happening. The husband is simply the only one left to take the fall. But they all played a part in this happening.
amazing point !!
I agree. 👍🏾
Very much agree.
I’m so sorry you had to go through this :( my parent’s marriage ended after an awful affair and it destroyed my mom. I myself have also been cheated on too. Some people who have never experienced it don’t quite understand how it can really tear a person apart. I hope you’ve healed from that and that you never have to go through that again❤️
There are so many people that resort to murder out of a desire for control. I think she acted out of anger and a desire for control more than heartbreak. People experience heartbreak all the time and murder never crosses their minds. Even in situations much worse than this. He wasn't a habitual cheater. He fell in love with someone else. I think he should have compensated her for her making the move to a different state, and upsetting her life that way. But he couldn't force himself to love her if he just wasn't feeling it anymore. That's what Jenaire just couldn't accept. It infuriated her that he actually found a young, beautiful, intelligent, successful woman who loved him. She thought she had the upper hand in the relationship all those years. I think that's what pushed him away. I'm tempted to buy his book.
Love that he couldn't be bothered to write a note for the wife he betrayed after her suicide but wrote one for his mistress.
Why write a note to a dead person. Sounds pretty self fulfilling to me. And imagine that... we all know about the note. This man is unbelievable.
This is a horrible horrible situation! I'm just glad they didn't have children together...that would have been so much worst..
Agreed. I know the child of a murderer and they're terrified it's in their blood. It's so sad 💔
I think maybe if they had kids the tragedy could have been prevented. I think Jener felt all she had was Mark and nobody else. She moved to a different state, sold their house for him and he was going to move in with another woman and she probably felt backed into a corner. It’s so sad because Mark was her life and he did her so wrong smh...
Yeah great point
Well since they met in the 80s (when ppl had kids young) and married young, had they had kids in their 20s, by the time all this happened, their kids would have been adults.
@@novab8720 That's a good perspective as well!
GIRL! Mark should not profit off these women and this tragedy. He’s so twisted
He profited? Wow... there should be a special place for cheaters in hell.
He’s trying to help those struggling with mental health issues to prevent this situation from happening again. I think if he was a real twisted person he would have gone a different route but it sounds like the only thing people care about is the fact that he cheated on his wife. She still killed another human
Amber Vizcarra he's helping people with mental illness to prevent this situation from happening again? I mean it could have been prevented by HIM BEING LOYAL. He caused this. The kind of pain he caused her can cause mental illness. I have been through it. Pain does a lot of mental harm.
wtf, he cheated, that was bad, but Jenaire murdered someone. And in this case,Mark and Meredith are the victims, not the criminal.
He’s a total narcissist. All he wanted was constant attention and to have his ego stroked by women who were honestly much too good for him, and now he wants his narcissistic supply again from the public by writing this book. He doesn’t have the capability to love anyone but himself. He is a revolting human being.
Sadly I have been in Jennairs's shoes. I get how jealousy drives you insane knowing your marriage is ending because your spouse is in love with someone else, and the "bad guys" get their happy ending. I wished every day that my ex and his mistress would get their karma to come back 10x but so glad I decided to eventually walk away when I realized saving my mental health was more important than saving my marriage.
Good for you girl ! 👍🏼
Karma does come. My ex remarried. Now, they're raising her grandson because his new stepdaughter overdosed on heroin and died.
I didn't wish that kind of karma on her. I cant imagine losing a child.
👏👏
I wouldn't believe anything he says he is a under handed so and so so was his new woman
I wished my nasty narcissist ex would get hit by a bus, and he ran his motorcycle into a car. I felt sorta bad. Not REAL bad 😂 PS I watch out for cars and buses since finding out karma does work.
I went through a divorce after my ex’s infidelity. We were married for 28 years, so it was very mentally taxing. It was one of the hardest things I’ve ever been through. I have never had mental health issues, but for 2-3 weeks after finding out about the infidelity I was on the brink of a mental breakdown. One of the contributing factors was lack of sleep. I hardly sleep for almost 3 weeks. I said things to him I’m not proud of. After starting medication to help sleep, I was better the next day. I think lack of sleep was probably one of her biggest issues. 😢
So sorry you had to go through that. It is tough. So glad you're doing better now.
Wasn't the lack of sleep....that sleepless nights were bc you realized that your life has changed forever...I hope and I'm sure you are so much better now
hope you’re doing better now love. that’s awful to hear i’m sorry.
my brother is being cheated on by his partner of 26 years...his sleep was fucked up and probably still is, i hate that he started drinking again and that she enabled it, after hes been sober for years
You realize you’re sympathizing with a killer with this comment, right?
Now Mark is in love with his writing coach because he thought of a clever sentence, so she patted him on the head and said "Who's a good boy. Yeesss.. Who's my good boy"!? He's not very complicated..
i read that in the voice i talk to my dog to 💀
Lmao 😂
I wonder what her eyebrows look like
@@marsarchive Hahaha
Oh my gosh 😂😂
honestly my worst fear is to have the love of your life find someone “better”
I personally would want the love of my life to have the best...even if the best is not me.
If they do, then they weren't the love of your life because a good partner wouldn't do that to you.
@Linda Mpofu and sometimes it’s just “different”.
@@chefjames3361 that’s a lame attitude
Better is subjective. In this case I don't think Meredith would have been too interested once Mark got his divorce was finalized. I think she liked (and maybe him too) the deceitful part of it. Even though they were so in love they certainly weren't rushing to be divorce their spouses to be together.
Merediths ex was just chilling and should be a reminder to ya'll that if someone doesn't want you...MOVE ON
Agreed. It's painful af to get cheated on, but let's not ruin your entire life in response. Healing is on the horizon.
Yes. Your time, energy, and presence are valuable and deserve to be given to someone who wants, and will reciprocate, those things. Straight up. Not saying it doesn’t hurt, but the pain over the loss of a relationship will lessen with time. The pain of being repeatedly rejected, ignored, by someone you’re choosing to stay with, will not.
Right?! Just move on. A cheater is not worth ruining your live over!
@@grainyveg7557 She also listened in on them with recording devices causing herself more pain and anger. She was a smart, very intelligent woman who could have found somebody else.
They had only been married 3 years
This is hands down one of my biggest fears.... To be married and loyal to a man for 25 years and then once I am in my 50s he gets with someone half my age, and someone who could be our kids age pretty much.
My dad did this to my mom... :/ & he abandoned me and my bro to live the lifestyle of a 20 something yr old... god I think about it all the time and I almost don't even want to date because I am so scared of that because I feel like I would lose my shit as well.
My biggest fear also and a big reason I'm staying single these days
I’m so sorry you, your brother and mom had to go through this. I fear the same after reading these stories as well as fearing that if my husband was to find someone else he’ll murder me to get me out of the way instead of telling me the truth. Being single really doesn’t seem like a bad idea for now
It happened to me 😢 the love of my life left me for the girl he told me “not to worry about” basically, I had my suspicions, but I trusted him with my whole heart. We have 2 girls, and he left us all and went to be with the girl 10years younger than him and I. 3 years later and I’m still mourning and grieving the person that used to exist. I just found out today…they just had a baby, I had no clue, he left me 2 weeks after I had a miscarriage. It’s like a million needles piercing my head and heart every time something reminds me of what my life used to be. My poor girls feel so abandoned because he’s got “the family he wanted, not the family he had”
It’s really tough I tell ya 😐
Happened to me... now in my 40’s, a single mom with lupus, he remarried, had a baby, and then they divorced. I’m much better, but it’s been about 8 years. Still depressed, lonely, and regret so much. I see how someone can fixate on the new woman as I did, but in the end, it rarely lasts and you see it was him all along.
High self esteem can help that. So you don't get your validation from someone else
The fact that they were living together and he was ‘spending quality time’ with Jenaire right up until the end of his divorce leaves room to assume he was in an intimate relationship with both women at the same time and may not have been honest with them both. I don’t think he handled the situation right and it got out of control.. this is probably why he forgives Jenaire to some degree? 🤷♀️
Agreed!
Absolutely 100% I’ve voiced my opinion but also you’re the first commenter down the line that so very closely,almost literally is the same as I!!
100% he tryna act all innocent like there was nothing when he was probably doing a lot worse
I disagree with the notion of Jennair's thinking that "if I can't have him, nobody can." I think it was simply and more accurately "I won't be wronged."
yeah me too. If it were "If I can't have him, nobody can", she would have killed him instead.
Me too, because she left him behind and he could easily repartner. If she had taken the "if I can't have him no one can" approve, it's him she would have shot.
That!!!! 👌🏼
@@melodiechartier5173 really
Yes!
No romance is worth all this death and destruction. It’s obsession and ego, not love.
So true...
exactly
Yes!!! Not all relationships work out, sometimes people fall out and find other people that they have better chemistry with. Mark and Jennair should have gotten a divorce once she found out about Meredith. Mark and Meredith should have started their own relationship. Meredith’s ex and Jennair should have forgiven, let go, moved on, and found new relationships.
If you love someone, set them free. If they come back they're yours; if they don't they never were. I feel like it all comes down to destiny and finding your soulmate. Mark and Jennair were not destined to stay together, and were not soulmates. They were never meant to be. Jennair couldn't accept this. She should have let him go and moved on with her life. She probably would have found someone who made her happier than Mark ever did. But she had some kind of mental illness. People get divorced everyday and move on with their lives. It's painful. It hurts. It feels like your life has ended. But you've got to show some self-respect....you can't force someone to love you and you can't force someone to stay with you against their will.
more like trauma and attachment issues
I never thought I’d hear of two people SO unlikeable that I’m siding with the killer. Wow.
😂 I’m here with u like how
Same!! I honestly feel so horrible for Janeire.
Same
I hate feeling for a murderer but this guy would’ve driven me insane.
Same. 😂 like. Am I supposed to be sad for her? She cheated on her husband with a married man. Mark trying to end on good terms and getting mad about being recorded when he lied in the first place? “Feels bad” about kissing her but not about going on the date in the first place?! I hope you never find happiness too. Lol
We have to remember that not only did he cheat after 20 years, but also he gave her enough hope that the marriage would be stable that she sold the house and moved across the country, where she was in a place where the only people she knew where her husband and his mistress. It must have been so isolating and I’m not shocked that she went insane- it must have been all she could think about
(I’m not excusing murder though)
True. That was really shitty move.
No not an excuse for murder...a reason TO murder 😉😉😉
@Ann Harlan what do you mean?
Depression isn’t insanity. Most people who are depressed never hurt anyone else.
@@christinamayhew3798 Agree.
Trying hard to find sympathy for anyone in this case. Why any woman would think being with a cheater is some kind of prize is beyond me. These men ain't shit, ladies. Always remember that.
"These men ain't shit, ladies. Always remember that." wise words! I need to remind myself of that regularly.
She was a cheater too, so why would she care that he was?
They both cheated so they deserves each other. It's gross.
I don't understand why cheaters think...they won't cheat on me.
@@twinkstar7738 Even cheaters usually don't want to be cheated on.
Damn why can’t people just learn to divorce and move on instead of cheating. The cheater always gets caught eventually and it never ends well.
Sadly, this will never happen .
It sucks but people even cheat when everything is going well...people suck. And then they claim that monogamy sucks- if you cannot commit to a relationship then do not commit to begin with?
People are stupid af. That’s why unfortunately lol
I also think this could be applied to Jennaire? Like why can’t people just learn to divorce and move on and not murder another person ?
@@NikkieTwix if you read his book he was still telling her he didn't want to end it. He wanted to stay in both relationships. He wasn't even honest about the affair until like 2 months before she killed Meredith and herself. And she still wanted to be in the marriage. Plenty of marriages come back from infidelity. She had a right to want to work on a 24 year marriage. Mark did not have a right to have an affair regardless of his feelings.
My husband cheated on me. I did everything what Jenair did. From recording phone calls, confronting the mistress, confronting him. How he slapped me to go away as he didn't love me anymore. How the mistress told me not to bother her or them. How I thought I'd flash their story in social media. How I'd slap her in public, etc.
But at the end, I left him. I didn't do anything to them. I didn't ask for alimony from husband.
Now m happy on my own. I focus on myself how to improve myself. How to be more happy.
I hvnt forgiven them but I want to be good myself. I don't care what they are upto now.
M in peace now. 🙏
Good for you! Hope everything is ok in your life
@@ohitsarcangel2182 thank you for your concern. M much better off than those years with him. I have dogs now. But I still have flash backs of what happened, small small things also remind me and my mood would be off suddenly. PTSD is really bad. It's been 2 years l left him but m still struggling to forget what happened. I can't open up to anyone. I have trust issues. M better off leaving him but m suffering from PTSD. Praying I'll recover soon.
@@seilrang Your never going to forget what happen. Its trauma but you can only learn to be at peace with yourself and know you were not at fault. You control what other people do only how you react to it and what you are willing to tolerate.
@@Bri-nc8yp thank you for your kind words. And you are right about not forgetting. It's been 3 years but i find myself lost in the flashbacks of what my ex used to treat me. It's frustrating. Life will be never be normal again.
Marriage is not for the weak at heart omg. That's so terrible the way it ended
The weirdest thing about this is someone being turned on by a Taco Bell uniform
Once she mentioned that I knew there was something wrong with that man
Right?!
...not me constantly checking my bf out in his tacobell uniform 👀👀👀
Dead 🤣🤣💀 DNR
I Thought I Looked Good In Mine 😂 I Liked My Little Hat
Everyone just cheating on everyone, and they’re MARRIED..... Jesus
People have no respect for the concept of marriage at all. It’s sick.
That is what happens when you rush into marriage. He is a helpless romantic, and she is a jealous control freak. Both didn't date enough to know how many other companions there are. They rushed into everything. They didn't really know who they are.
@@wheatbread2002 still doesn’t make it an excuse to cheat. they most likely grew up together, and then just grew apart
Staying single is not that hard and is cheaper 😡😡
@@shplms Having a reason why people do the things they do is not equate to excuses. They've done no internal work on themselves which is why this all manifested in the 1st place. When you rush into marriage without doing any internal work on yourself, this is the results that lead to their actions. Death doesnt happen everytime, but disfucntion does. They fell out of love because they don't know who they are outside of their relationship. The relationship defined their self. Not their self defining the relationship. In the 20 years they were complacent, almost disfunctional with whatever childhood insecurities they had. (Jeniere had abandonment/jealously issues, and Mark probably never had much female attention growing up. And have a passive stance with women, but still want both. Similar to Chris Watts)
I’m not justifying murder by any means, but Mark and Meredith were clearly horrible people. Cheating is disgusting and really hurts and damages lives. Mark doing everything he did was disgusting and Meredith willingly getting with a married man WHILE also married omg 🙄
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Good thing she’s in hell now
Agreed that what they did was horrible.
It’s so funny Meredith’s family said she’s a great person while her behavior proved the absolute opposite
Seems like you are justifying murder
The best revenge is to let the other woman keep his cheating and he'll probably cheat on his new woman eventually
I was thinking I woulda been so out and living my best life, but I'm 30 and this woman was almost 50. She probably felt so unattractive and that it was too late to start over. Plus they made a decision not to have kids together, leaving her all alone when he decides to go be with a younger woman he could potentially start a family with. Super sad. I feel for her.
Those who cheat with you, will cheat on you!
Katrina Graham • Right. He was 15 years older, maybe he would have gotten cheated on eventually. Kind of sad story 🤨.
@@triciab612 My boyfriend and I are 15 years apart. I would never cheat on him. He means too much to me to lose him.
Or Meredith may have cheated on Mark. She was married 3 years and already cheating. Sounds like commitment isn't her thing
Jenere should have let her have Mark. That’s the worse things she could’ve done to her. He would have eventually cheated on her too.
Agreed.
Absolutely! There is no excuse for an affair.
Yeah.. She would have gotten old eventually too.
Yes, only I think Meredith would have eventually tired of Mark and cheated on him like she did Luke.
Spot on! And Meridith would of come crying to Jenaire in a few years trying to be her friend. always the way
My husband did the same to me, and it’s a very painful situation but I would never give him or her the satisfaction of ruining my life. I wouldn’t ruin my life and my daughters life so someone who doesn’t deserve it. The best revenge is to live a happy life and push forward 😄😄
Shoulda stayed in shape.
Girl, im sorry this happened to you. I completely agree, for mental sanity you need to move forward. Its sad that when crap like this happens to us we have to be the bigger person and move on but its just a testament to how strong we are and unfortunately how weak our partners are. I wish you and your daughter happiness!
@@bobaballslushie2169 thank you so much for your kind words they mean a lot 🥰🥰 i pray for your happiness as well ☺️☺️
Exactly! Good for you! I told my husband the same thing. If he cheats on me, I'll never chase him. He can go. I'll live happily with my children.
@@tashinagrace6815 🥰🥰 yes 🙌
I wonder how Meredith’s ex husband felt when he first learned his ex wife was killed by the wife of the man she was having an affair with…..that’s pretty deep
Probably shock and then relief he wasn’t part of it
well he was portraying himself as a victim the audacity
He wasn't in any better of a boat. He lost a lot as a result of this as well. Poor guy
This is why I can't fully understand the sympathy for Meredith. The husband of the woman she killed now has to have the anger and betrayal of her cheating and leaving him and now has to grieve her loss. Very complicated emotions. He is the true victim of this story as he was able to control himself as an adult. Meridith was clearly having a mental health crisis and was experiencing severe depression if she was willing to take her life and the sad thing is I feel like if she was able to get the help she needed no one would have died but as someone who has suffered with depression for years I am not dangerous and I would never kill someone who wronged me. If she were alive she should have gone to jail.
@@zak27986 Oh I meant to say Jennifer I mixed the woman's names up! I was referring to the killer having a mental health crisis. One of us messed the names up it might have been me.
Ew I cannot stand when old men tell underage/super young girls that they are “so mature for their age” 🤢
Same. This was a over 30 old woman, what did he expect. That she still played with her Barbies?
For real, young girls are not mature. I'm 26, and I'm mature for a 26 y/o but not mature to be with a man in his 30s. Girl I--
She wasn’t super young though ? 😂
Yes it's so patronising
@@MsSonali1980 🤣🤣🤣 he is such a jerk
I'll never understand why someone thinks: If my new lover cheated on his/her mate.....What makes me think he/she won't cheat on me. Once a cheater always a cheater.
Also how you get them is how you lose them
100%
If they're willing to cheat with you they'll cheat on you
In this case though they were both married, so that kind of changes things.
@@xxyes8879 yeah its twice as bad
Never an excuse for murder. He is a scumbug. She was a homewrecker. All three of those facts can be true.
Exactly!!
This
Why is he a scumbag? He was married to a psycho and wanted out, what part of that makes him a scumbag? She was the scumbag, murdered the girl to make sure he could never be happy.
@@PandemicEv the cheating is what makes him a scumbag. Wanting to leave a marriage is fine but you can’t start dating someone behind your spouses back.
@@PandemicEv shutup
By him saying he can’t forgive Jen for what she did to Meredith shows that sadly he loved his mistress more than his wife of over 20 years. This makes me really sad for Jen and makes me empathetic towards how she felt when she killed Meredith. He really did make her do it.
Agree!!
The purpose of Jennair telling Mark to take her on dates and act as if nothing happened was a ploy to get him to realize that he still loved her.
I thought that too!
She could have let him go and then realize how much he misses and loves Jennair when things go to shit w Meredith
honestly, the fact that you’re even trying a new setup means a lot. quarantine has taken a toll on all of us and i appreciate your continuous effort. thank you kendall.
This 👏🏽
Meredith's husband was the most responsible person in the whole story. Like he learned she was cheating so he got a divorse and moved on with his life. The story could have been much worse if he did something similar to Jenniar.
Meredith ex husband got married and have a daughter, and got the insurance from Meredith death, Meredith family tried to stop him
@@kellyk5123 Really? That is hilarious.
@@kellyk5123 hahaha good for him 👏
@@kellyk5123 and that's how you do it
@@laradorren8009 yeah!
as someone who has been cheated on (and not murdered) i can honestly say the people saying they drove her to murder are crazy. she had the ability to let go and walk away and she chose to kill. they are all horrible people.
I'm so sorry that Jennair thought all of her worth was wrapped up in Mark. She would have been just fine without him. I just listened to the new podcast on this sad situation and he really jerked Jennair around and played with her head about wanting her then not wanting her. What Jennair was going through was brutal but you can't kill people, nothing justifies that. So sorry for the families.
I agree with your post. Tragic all around.
He pushed her to it so 🤷🏽♀️ can’t make someone crazy then be surprised they kill u
@@shantatv3185 ……… so weird for you to rationalize and justify murder
Are you dumb? You live 24 year with a man construct a life and for you it us fine that he f another, and the problem is the woman she shouldn't "wrap her life around the man? Loool no you don't sound smart or emancipated just a very superficial mind
@@alexaninambv1618 You’re asking someone else if they are dumb after you clearly didn’t comprehend their statement?
Everyone in this story is guilty of something but Jennair is the only one responsible for the murder. Period.
GET THIS TO THE TOP
Except Luke :)
Absolutely agree with this
Well I mean mental health is serious it’s clear she wasn’t in the right state of mind. She’s responsible for the murder of one but remember she also took her own life.
@@bestgrays2117 right murderers are never in a right state of mind. Cuz people in a right state of mind don't kill people. She's not the victim in this case wtf, she lost the right to be the victim when she planned a murder for weeks cuz she was upset about a shitty guy.
If you're divorcing someone who can't accept that, constantly going on dates with them is not the most sensible thing to do. I seriously can't find any sympathy towards Mark in me at all.
Mark is a pos!
@@rbcrbcrbc9 Yes, I agree, things were great indeed, great for HIM.
its like he was trying to push her buttons to cause her pain. he probably knew her vulnerabilities
I tried to read his book, got half way through and wanted to throw it across the room. He's a narcissist. Really tried to play the victim role. Disgusting.
mark seems like the kind of guy that would kiss himself in the mirror
😆😂 wtf
@@april6461 narcissist, he seems like a narcissist
@@bellezanegra0206 a play on words, i know. It was late at night and i was hit w giggles.
Yeah I bet he did that a lot of times. What a shame he wasn't the one she killed since she just made him single and free to start dating other women. He didn't really care about the subject of the affair either. He was just so self-centred he never noticed anyone else he left in his path (when he thought he was better).
@@bellezanegra0206 yeah having him being interviewed was a waste and a show of poor acting skills. He didn't care about either of them and he doesn't feel sorry for what he did. I wonder how many women he's used since they've been dead.
I've determined that everyone in this situation sucks except Meredith's husband.
How do you know what he was like?
Agree. Everyone was completely self-centred.
And the cute little dog in the picture. Hope he/she is ok😢
YES. This.
He sucked too! They had a fake political farce marriage for the last 3 years. No sex, no caring. So then everyone sucks then-LMFAO
Ladies no man is worth your life. SERIOUSLY!!!
Oh shut up
@@laylaubeid102 He likes to cheat and create drama.
So very true!! Ladies do not let ANY damn man do this shit to your mental health. My ex tried making me think I was crazy!!
Period!!!!
Moral of the story is: WOMEN-- DONT GET WITH A MARRIED MAN!!!!
Pretty simple 🤷🏻♀️
Or men and women: don’t cheat on your partner!!!
@@mariangely9546 that too
Moral of the story is not to commit cold blooded, premeditated murder?
@@MoreCoffeePlease. Yeaaa you see that would have never happened if she would have not gotten involved with a married man. Now a days there’s A LOT of mental issues, especially in the U.S….. so it’s not worth it
@@ltapias88 In a civilized society, even the US, the punishment for infidelity is not murder. In fact, it’s not even a civil or criminal infraction deserving of imprisonment. But please, do go on justifying *fatal corporal punishment* for a widely held moral violation. 🙄
Meredith's eyebrow are criminal.
Agreed
I also agree! HORRIBLE!
I was wondering when someone was going to point that out. Like yeah, she clearly is a victim in all this but I can’t trust anyone who would choose to have those eyebrows. At no point in in any culture in the history of ever was that eyebrow shape ever acceptable.
The brows tell me she was bad at making decisions.
😂
@@PennyPennyPennyPennyPenny took the words right out of my mouth. spot on penny
My therapist once told me something incredibly important; you can’t control what other people do, you can only control your reaction
Its also very difficult or sometimes impossible to control your reaction.
I’ve seen this written on billboards and bathroom stalls a few times.
I also see “nothing changes if nothing changes” a lot
The AUDACITY of him becoming a voice for mental health and writing a god damn book
Riiiiight
Some of my biggest takeaways from allll the true crime I’ve consumed over the years - you are risking your life if you cheat on your partner, have a relationship with a married person, or if you tell your partner you will take away their kids or ruin them financially if they leave you. It’s never worth it. Do things the right way if you want to live. 😅
I knew a wife that was killed by the side chick! It’s not always so cut & dry.
To any person in this situation: The best revenge is leaving them and living a better life with out them.
No body is worth all this... the insane level of obsession with listening in on him and spying on him... even after he admitted to the affair like... no girl. Just leave him.
I wish she had felt mentally well enough to leave. Because Meredith strikes me as someone who only wanted the relationship because it was forbidden. I bet had the divorce gone through Meredith would have dumped Mark and then Jennair could have thrown a huge FU to Mark and gone on with her life. However Jennair wasn't wrong in wanting Mark to end the affair and stay in her marriage.
Imagine giving a man over 20 years of your life, 20 years of your youth and beauty, you have no kids, and right as you are about to enter into the second faze of of your life, growing old and retiring with the man you love, he cheats on you with a women 15 years younger than you. She was approaching 50 yrs old and was expected to start a new life alone. What she did was horrifying but that would make anyone without a strong support system go mental. Maybe not to her extent, but that’s a lot to go through if you don’t have any kids to lean on and not a strong support system of family and friends in place.
Yes many people are strong cuz of kids, they spent so much time together by not having kids and lived 20+ years doing life together 100% focused on each other, abd one day its over. Im not justifying the murder but it just breaks my heart what that poor woman was going thru.
Amen.
Wow I’m 20 years old don’t want kids or marriage I’m so scared to know I’ll be older and maybe with no kids to help me if I feel alone or something
I wholeheartedly agree with your statement, well said!
and the problem too is society. if it was easier for older women to get a man it wouldnt be such a big deal
It's extra sinister that Jennair left Mark alive. Think about how calculated and organized her entire operation was. She wanted him to live and suffer the guilt.
never thought about that, whoa
Um I don’t think so... A lot of females seem to place all the blame and hate on the other woman and will still love & stay with the guy who cheated. It happens so often.
But since he seems to be a giant egocentrical narcissist, I doubt he feels any guilt, he's just pretending to to save face
And also the fact that she told him to just go home when she knew that he would eventually find a dead Meredith. So sick!
Serious Savage.
it's amazing how the victim is portrayed so perfect...people don't understand just how it affects you until it happens to you...I choose to walk away and never look back.
True, meredith is a homewrecker
You know Mark was telling Jener he still loved her that whole time
Thats what I was thinking...if he was making it clear that there was no hope and he was with Meredith now why would she suddenly flip after finding a condom ? He probably was showing her more than he is telling.
Oh, I’m sure. They always do.
YEP no doubt. He made her go crazy.
100% still in a full relationship
Oh for sure
I really don't feel sorry for Meredith or Mark. That man cheated on his wife, gaslit her, and kept lying to her until she found out herself. Then he cruelly states to his betrayed wife that he's super in love with Meredith and yet also continues to give his wife false hope by attending marriage counselling?? What a jerkass. If you're so unhappy with someone, do both of y'all a favour and leave them. He was definitely having sex with the wife and his mistress at the same time. Meredith didn't deserve to die but I feel little sympathy for her - she cheated on her own partner and willingly participated in the wrecking of someone's home with little to no shame. Both Mark and Meredith deserved each other. What the wife did is obviously wrong, but I feel the most sympathy for her. She did kill Meredith but she also killed herself :/
You feel bad for the wrong woman, that's just weak minded. Get over it and move on with your life, that's what Jennair should have done. If she was a decent human being with any self worth she wouldn't be dead right now.
JP Lalibertad Ok then, captain obvious
@@IcySync I'm only captain stating the obvious because you're captain oblivious, your comment was moronic, how could you feel sympathy for a murderer and not the victim?
JP Lalibertad uhh- she wasn't a victim? 💀. of course she died but the other woman also died. and Meredith knew that he had a wife and she didn't respect that. she got with a married man and he said that and she was married as well. I have no sympathy for either of them. they all made a mistake. no one was innocent there.
@@yourmom964 Meredith is completely innocent, it is not illegal to cheat just because it hurts your feelings doesn't make it a crime. Meredith was not happy in her relationship and neither was he, they should have been open about it from the beginning but that does not mean she deserves to die. Meredith seemed like a incredibly kind woman , successful, and beautiful. So of course people like you are gonna hate on her.
ladies, i implore you, never mess with a married man. no good comes from it.
I agree. No men is gold enough to stand cheating. He probably would've left Meredith too. I mean seriously did he expect there to be sparks in relationship all the time? You're going to be attracted to other people doesn't mean you have to date all of them.
Unfortunately most have been used unless you're going for a teenager
Jenair should have channeled her bad behavior into a career as a private investigator. 🙄
You are absolutely right! Even James Bond would envy her. She was so dedicated and resourceful.
Why didn’t he just get a divorce first? There is literally no excuse for cheating. Maybe the situation would’ve played out differently if he decided to divorce first instead of cheating
Of course it would, but that doesn’t excuse Jenaire or make the two other even remotely responsible for their deaths. It was clear from the beginning Jenaire was a psychopath.
@@jennagarcia9411 agreed!!
@@jennagarcia9411 nobody says it does. But it could be prevented
@@bigbird7748 She could've done all this if they divorced too. There's plenty of "crazy ex wife/girlfriend" stories. She could continue to blame them & use that to justify her actions in her head.
@@intuitive_duck no, not necessarily
her mental health would be much better if she wasn't cheated on for a while cuz of younger woman and didn't have to leave her place for a new one, where she had no one to help and support her
those events would make anyone mentally unstable
besides its never said of her having jealousy problems in the past, so she is not "crazy ex wife/girlfriend" type of person, she just totally fell apart
Do the case of Tamala Horsford next. She was a black woman at a sleepover with all white women and ended up dead.
I just did a quick Google of this story because I had never heard of it. And wow crazy. Definitely smells fishy...
I think Daniele Hallan did this one!
@@dakotahleigh3879 she did!
Antphrodite did a tarot reading about this! It’s pretty interesting what he pulled
YES YES YES!!! Super 🐟🐟🐟
Very SUS
He wrote a book and profited off of this nightmare. Mark is more of a POS then I already thought he was. UNBELIEVABLE
Why shouldnt he be allowed to write a book? Mark never did anything wrong. Jenair is the only one who did anything wrong.
i dont see you complaining bout kendall covering these stories for monetary gain, should he have wrote a book, probably not, but you cant sit there and complain about him writing a book and profiting off of it when youre literally watching this on a persons channel who takes in ad revenue or sponsorships, and no im not shitting on kendall, shes amazing
His facebook page relationship status says widowed. Really?
This is such a sad story. The husband showed zero restraint and set zero boundaries with that younger women. He was completely selfish. He lied to his wife and showed total disrespect. Women who are being lied to and betrayed like this get obsessed with finding out the truth and get very vindictive. I’ve always thought there should be a hotel for women to go to when faced with situations like this. A place that provides emotional support. A place to protect them from themselves, just to let time pass away from the toxic situation. I would probably go crazy if my husband did the same to me and would probably need to fly to CA to be with my family and grieve with them.
You are talking about murderer as if she was a victim of the story. If you listened to the video, you would know she was a stalker and abuser.
@@TejubescDM she did that because He had cheated on her and you know Marc side story. We actually don't know what really happened
@@TejubescDM Well if you don't want to be stalked and murdered then don't cheat stay faithful or stay single. It's really that simple.
@@Bri-nc8yp lol soooooo thats a jusifiable and normal thing to do in response to your marital crisis?
Agree!
With both women being dead - all we get is a 1 sided story. Seems unfair to both women.
Right? I thought the same.
just unfair to the girlfriend. We dont ever own someone and can change our minds at any tie for any reason. If a man wants to leave, bye
She put all that energy into making a man suffer....who then ended up writing a book to literally profit from it all. Her focus went all into the wrong person smh.
that’s true but he could still be hurting & lonely, at least i hope he’s lonely 😗
Imagine if she had focused on herself just half as much.
So... are you saying she should have killed him instead? xD
Yeah thats a lil toxic too. I mean fuck a cheater but theres really enough blame to split evenly for all 3 of em
@@re707 fr
Definitely miss the bedroom back ground with your doggy always on your bed but this one looks great too!
ALWAYS end one relationship before starting another.
Jennair really worked harder than the FBI 👀
For real
@@314three She could have had an impressive career with them.
The wife was blindsided and heartbroken. I can understand her mentality at that moment. Just hurt, broken, angry, betrayed, just so many emotions for one person to handle. Anyone blindsided like that would be a total mess. She probably killed herself after she realized what she did or “snapped back into reality”. This was definitely planned, what she did was not right, but I do understand being blindsided and broken like this. I just wouldn’t kill someone over a selfish, cheating husband
Agreed!!! Recently was betrayed by my ex. I can definitely understand why she snapped. But it’s not worth killing someone then myself. Sad.
Not even worth it people dying over an affair. There is always someone much better out there.
Agreed. It's so weird when a man damages a woman so much to the point of making her go from a total chill point to being crazy and the husband still blame her for doing what she did. Hope people don't buy his book cause he is responsible for the two deaths
I have borderline personality disorder and I'm luckily in therapy for it but I got vibes of it from this case. Would like to know about the woman's upbringing and previous mental health record.
Uh I can’t understand it. She literally took someone’s life. Fuck that
Wrote a book?! On what? “How I cheated and what a scumbag I am?” That should be the title.
So I actually read it. I was so so hoping to find some compassion for Mark and Meredith. And it did the opposite. The whole book is about how Jennair was abusive to him and when Meredith came along and treated him so well he just couldn't help it. He basically mentally tortured Jennair and made her seem like this awful person while basically making it a love letter to Meredith. He even dedicated the book to her. Thankfully there are some passages where Meredith's true colors shine through showing how callous she truly was (not just to Jennair but her own husband) still overall she is painted as a victim and not at all culalpable for the murder.
@@heatherpolley8501 what a dush bag
He is seriously a scumbag for trying to profit off their deaths
@@heatherpolley8501 she isnt culpable she was murdered by a crazy woman.
@@heatherpolley8501 I feel like in that moment where she killed herself was because of this . She already killed the other woman, she realized this wasn’t worth living for and felt it was irreversible and she didn’t want to live with herself .
Mark was so selfish for letting his wife relocate to be with him, when he had clearly started an affair and had 2nd thoughts about their marriage. That was so conceited. She was alone, isolated from friends and the one person she trusted betrayed her.