Knife Prty - Deftones WHITE PONY (active listening & musical analysis)
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
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Fun fact: Chino can absolutely reach her notes. On a Tour in Asia back in 2011, Chino sang her parts and even screeched like a f**kin eagle during her whistle screams, which BLEW everyone's minds. I was so lucky to have witnessed it.
Is there a video of this?
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@@qeroanvurgesafr i gotta see this i’m trying to blow my mind to
@@qeroanvurgesai might’ve found it or smt similar ua-cam.com/video/83YnMEJxbtk/v-deo.htmlsi=yy9XbGZnVa0_mrNq
Honestly one of the best rock songs ever written. And the vocal performance by Rodleen Getsic is definitely one of the best ones ever recorded. I always kinda thought Knife Prty was Deftones reaction to Pink Floyd's The Great Gig in the Sky.
Very “Great Gig In the Sky” !!
I thought the same thing.
I’ve always thought the same thing, a connection to the great gig
deftones is metal
Actually isn't rock, this song and White Pony it's Alternative Metal (and a bit of Nu Metal), but you're correct.
Yup I've always related that to Great Gig in the Sky as well
Every time I listen to this song (no matter how many times I’ve heard it) and it raises such emotion in me. Every time I hear that woman’s voice I feel such passion, rage, and sorrow. The screaming was so therapeutic to me in a period of great sadness in my life. Ugh I can’t handle this song and I love it so much
…I could float here forever
Also, this song is very reminiscent of the great gig in the sky by Pink Floyd. A continuation of a similar idea of handing a hugely important piece of the song to a singer who will make it feel like something that no one else in the band would be capable of bringing.
Knife Party is my favorite Deftones song and it's all about that scream! It gives me chills every time!
Same. Shivers and tears
Same. This song never gets old. It's a perfect Deftones song, as Ixi is laying out. 9ths and 11ths and suspended and killer rhythm section. Abe is such a fantastic drummer.
"Let's just listen to the drums for a second so I can like, let that go" Haha amazing. I feel that.
"Come get your ninths, come get your ninths!"
I saw them when they toured on this album. When they played this one, I made my way all the way up to the front, and Chino was crouched down at the edge of the stage reaching into the crowd. The man reached out and grabbed my extended hand, giving me one of the coolest moments in my 19 year old life and cementing Knife Prty as one of my favorite songs.
Wow. I have always really liked this song. But not having heard it in a long time, i realise, how BONKERS that female vocal contribution is. This is such greatness. Chinos melody is so sticky and between the lines, too. Like a snake.
Deftones are my favorite band. Period. And this is probably my favorite song from them. This, and Be Quiet and Drive
It's definitely the case in my experience that a drummer who can make the drums actually FEEL like an instrument as opposed to just a time keeping device makes or breaks a band. Jimmy Chamberlain is another great example.
There are so many. John Stanier from Helmet makes those early works. Danny Carey is the entire feeling of Tool. Sean Kinney is incredible keeping Alice in Chains together. Hell, John Bonham and Zeppelin.... I could go on forever. Drummers make a band. The Cure with Boris Williams is some of their best material. Without him... Great, but not AS great.
@@CedricJustice exactly. it's one of the reasons why i cite ringo as an example of why he is influential. he is the template of what a drummer should be in terms of feel. his fills help the songs be identifiable. i recently watched a video with the black crowes and the new band they have as their drummer is just horrible. he's got no feel at all. i was appalled. without steve gorman, there is no black crowes.
@@thevoid99 Terrible example. Ringo wasn't even the best drummer in the beatles.
That's because the drummer of deftones isn't a metal/rock drummer at all and does everything to avoid "metal drumming" in their songs :)
I know this is a lot of people's favorite Deftones song, and for personal reasons it wasn't one of my favorites at first. However, I had the same sort of journey as Ixi did with the screaming part, because after years of paying more attention to the lyrics than the music I noticed how impressive and haunting the screaming was and I got curious about it. I always just brushed it off as Chino doing it, probably putting some effects on it to hit those really high notes, and then thought maybe it was an effect mixing with the guitar and then found out it was a performance from a woman named Rodleen Getsic. Then I realized I knew her from The Bunny Game, which is an intense movie where she goes to unreasonable lengths for the role. I don't recommend watching the movie, I somehow came across it on UA-cam a while back, and at best it's a complicated film with mixed messages but a chilling performance by Getsic who was physically harmed and maimed for it, and at worst it's a borderline snuff film. She suffers for her art, and her role in this song just makes it all the more chilling.
Thank you for your personal story, can't guarantee I won't search for the movie tho
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Another thing to note that during the verses, Chino sings sharp between an A to Bb commonly close to a quarter step between those notes, and every instrument within the whole song stands out in their own way, which is really unique, kind of similar to what Passenger is. This whole album still bangs.
I never gave this song a chance and it's so WTF.
Oh my god.
Im baffled!!!
I love how her screaming so perfectly exemplifies addiction, the love hate and pain...
I always depicted it as a women having a orgasm and then gets strangled or stabbed (the screaming goes from extasy to horrified)
I absolutely love your NIN analyses and I just discovered Deftones and White Pony. Such a great album! Knife Prty is definitely my favorite song.
I'm new to making music, so I learn a lot by listening to you! Thank you, you're so talented
There’s lots to love about this song, but I think my favourite is the bass at the beginning, it sort of throbs, hard to explain but it’s sooo cool ❤
Yep, I like it so much! I heard this detail after year of listening I guess, but now it's my fav part
This is amazing stuff, can't believe I'm just stumbling upon this channel just now. My favourite album of all time, this analysis makes me fall in love with this record even more. I've heard this a million times and never thought how much went actually into it! Thank you.
So many parts of this song gives me goosebumps and chills and i love it.
I loved this vid, just actually sitting down and listening closely is so satisfying. Amazing
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God that sounds so pretty when you play it on piano like that at 7:00. They had lots of pretty stuff like this under the noise, like Be Quiet and Drive. It's repetitive but perhaps look into covering it if you could.
The guitar melody on this one really defines the song, but the bass is super loud and gainy almost like a hum throughout the whole song.
Abe meanwhile is treating this song like a long solo and it's awesome lol
"The mid section has amazing vocals from a girl called Rodleen who worked next door to our studio" - Chino
Rodleen Getsic is a singer and actress from Washington that happened to be recording next door during the White Pony sessions and caught the bands attention. It's been long theorized that her voice is digitized and heavily distorted during the high bits, but seeing her sing live with the band she is in fact able to sing into her scream register.
Lyrics: The song is about a secret society that uses knives for sexual rituals and gets off on cutting and violence. The character in the story and the woman dance and have sex until they both climax represented by the screaming.
Apparently it was inspired by a weird party on tour when the band and roadies on the tour bus all grabbed knives out of Abe's Blade collection and started ritualistically dancing with them. (possibly while high)
When I saw this song live, mans actually did the bridge’s vocals himself, it was actually crazy
I really like your "reverse ingeneering" of the chords! Greetings from Buenos Aires. 🙂
The symbol work by Abe during the breakdown is my favourite part of this song.
i love how in-depth you go. awesome review :)
I was all excited for you to talk about the weirdest note of the song! That crazy Gb around 3:09 of the video. I love the look on your face during the listen through but you skipped during discussion 😭.
ha yeah, I forgot to go over that. One of Chino's signature "off" notes!
He's repeating a 3-note pattern from before but starting it in a different place in the scale (sounds like a 3rd below) and it happens to end up on that "off"-sounding note! It sounds so twisted because it's goes outside the scale. But we still recognize the pattern from before. Love it!
I love that part
Everytime I hear that opening riff, I can see a horse galloping. Chills
in slow motion :)
The bridge always reminded me of a shorter, heavy version of The Great Gig in the Sky by Pink Floyd
same
thank you for sharing this with us Ixi
Really enjoying this series, thank you
4:20 that part still gives me chills 20 years after I first heard the song :D
This is one of my favorites if not my favorite deftones song. That "kiss me" is so sensual I'd totally have a crush on him if i was gay or a woman. it is almost like a love song... for weirdos like me at least.
That go get your 9th was a pretty good joke.
Sadly the female singer ruined her voice, could be crazy singing like this but i have no idea. He has tried to do her part live, it's on youtube.
Oh my gosh, I really loved watching your examination of this song. Thanks.
Gives me a whole new appreciation of these songs. Thanks.
So fun to watch you enjoy one of my favorite songs
This is seriously my favorite song of any genre.
It’s brilliant
this is the deftones “great gig in the sky”
Abe is one of the raddest drummers ever!!!!
The bridge feels like an homage to the the great gig in the sky by pink Floyd
ohmygooooooooooosh I LOVE THIS SONG I LOVE TILL DEATH
My two most favoritest snare tones are this and Brann Dailor's on Leviathan.
John Otto on Significant Other an honorable mention.
Abe Cunningham.💪🏼
PJ Harvey.. that's the inspiration
Best deftones song
that operatic part sounds like a take on "the great gig from the sky" from pink floyd's "dark side of the moon" as if it was sung by jeff buckley.
Those top notes in the scream makee think she's using her vocal chords similar to when you let air out of a balloon and pull the opening apart
All the fiends on the block, im the new king, ill take the queeeeennnn
u r fucking golden... you should cover this like anne burn did how to disappear completely
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this already, or *if* I’m actually correct but, I’m pretty sure the woman in the song is Biff Naked 🤔🤘🏻
Rodleen Getsic is the GenX Clare Torry.
Ooh it's 'anemic'. I always thought he said he was a Namek.
I think it’s a joke, because what’s one of the causes of anemia? Blood loss, like if you got stabbed. And what’s one of the treatments? More iron, like if you have a steel knife stuck in you.
Rosemary........
I can't listen to white pony anymore because it drains me emotionally. This song specifically just taps me out.
I agree totally. I had a great loss in my life when this song album came out and I hear that improv section and I just lose it emotionally. Still rocks me to my core.
Your voice so nice, you defenetly could be a great singer. At least, it seems like that
20:48 wtff are you rodleen getsic? sounds exactly the same
Ninth Prty. Thnk u.
Deftns r bk nma laif.
ixis luvs ma joy.
Binawail...
The realisation of a musician when deftones is broken down 😂😂
🙏🔥🤘👍❤️🔥
Yes. All of this
Isn't the opening chord E♭5 instead of E♭sus2?
It could be but upon a closer listen, it sounds like there's actually a 7th in there. So probably not a sus2 but I don't think it's a power chord. Maybe I'm hearing a string nearby resonating or something!
@@iximusic I still think the first bVI chord is a power chord, but I'm also pretty sure there's a 7th when the drums kick in where the band play the chord with more distortion.🤔
@@iximusic I think you might be right, Stephen has those like 7 or 8 string guitars there’s a lot going on there
@@ryansylvia9710 not at this point I don't believe. I think he first started using a 7 on self titled
@@ryansylvia9710 the only song that uses a 7 string on white pony is rx Queen and it was only played at the ending for like 10 second. The first 3 albums were all 6 string
Eh Deftones are flat earthers
What part of that did you insist on having to edit?
Only Stephen.
And Stephen is anti vaccine too which is even more disappointing.
Still love his musicianship.
@@lockmock17 Good to know that. Makes him even cooler
Lol what does this have to do with anything? If you like the music cool, if not that’s cool too. Stephen is the only one who buys into some weird conspiracies and the only affect I can imagine on the audience is that he didn’t go on the international stretch of their last tour. I’m actually kind of baffled by that and I wonder how that worked out.
Mr Abe Cunningham ladies and gentlemen
Epic intro ..dtones