@@07ikkinjoin the military, the Army is handle out bonuses like candy.
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Never get a Business Management Degree unless you have a specialization like Logistics, Marketing, or Accounting/ Finance. If all you have is Business Management, you might as well just be a Dominoe's pizza store manager at least they have a corporate pipeline to help you move up further.
This is true. I’m a CPA and have talked many out of a business degree. I have an MBA - pretty pointless degree. I also have a graduate degree in accounting - this one WAS helpful.
The problem is the way traditional 4-year college is currently, being marketing is the real ... SCAM. In the early 1980's when, I earned my B.S. degree in Electrical Engineering, we all knew there was no connection between a college degree and obtaining a job in the field related to your earned degree. 1st) Does you family own their own "blue" collar business (i.e. plumbing, hearting and air conditioning repairmen, electrician, welding, etc)? If yes, them just get on the job training and start your career; 2nd) If, there is no family business and, you still want to work in the trades go to community college for 1-year and then get an apprenticeship; 3rd) If you want to be a draftsman or an RN Nurse then, just go to community college for two years and earn an AA degree. Also, please do not forget commission sales jobs never require any education past High School (i.e. Life Insurance agent, Real Estate agent, and Stock Broker, etc.)
You say you all new that there was no connection between a college degree and obtaining work in the field. But they view I get is, and correct me if I am wrong, that if you had a BS in electrical engineering companies would see it as a proof of hard work and skill and very often hire you since they would teach you at the job. But again maybe that is wrong? I was not around in the 80s My view however of today is that the BS degree is bare minimum, but they want you to know at least 50% when starting out, you do not need to know 100%, but definitely more than 10% that the degree gives you, So somehow you need to find the remaining knowledge through ether internships or someway else. Maybe it has become more expensive to hire? Or companies are afraid you will leave early and not worth to teach you. But Companies seem today to be terrified to teach from the basics today.
The crazy part about asking for 5+years experience is calling it "entry level". The amount of responsibilities do not match the pay. I have 10+years experience. How dare you ask for 5+years experience and want to pay crap. The only thing about the job being called "Entry-level" is the pay.
It’s just to weed out applicants. Meaning that position is overly saturated.In my field they are paying over 40 an hour no degree requirement and have a hard time filling positions.
That's because they are just eliminating entry level positions now. I was trying the entry level route in a new field after grad school but got laid off in under a year. Can't get any interviews to convert to a job offer for the mid level positions
@@LemonStank no they are not the same but they are proof of willingness to learn. I worked in a low level job in finance and a colleague had a degree in.... Marine biology...he was earning far more than me in a higher job
@@skyblazeeterno You can prove a determination to learn without a degree. There are actually certain roles where a degree won't get anywhere, but a certificate or certification will.
Attended a crappy low end school, and earned a engineering degree while working full time, this was after I finished a military enlistment. I was offered and accepted a good job before my last semester, so I had no worries about a job during my last semester of college. To stay marketable I needed to develop and maintain my skill set. Subsequently I've never went to an interview and had not been offered the job. Without the degree I would never have gotten a "foot in the door".
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Thank you for your service. You as a veteran and also having a security clearance gives you a leg up. The reality that you have been in the military shows you have work experience, most of these people complaining on this tiktok could not do an internship and without the internship does college degrees are useless.
@@maverickbull1909Above 80% is a common outcome. Over 80% of graduates ended up working in the field of the degree earned. Crappy school but good statistics. I knew the statistics for the school going in.
@@maverickbull1909 Needing a degree to work in engineering *is* common. What is actually *uncommon* is landing an engineering role *without* a degree.
Don't listen to people who say getting a degree is not needed. There are many positions that REQUIRE a four year degree. My company will not even interview you if you don't have at least a bachelors. Find out if your field of interest is the same.
@JoeBlow-fp5ng Joe Blow, the loving mane (Dolemite 😆), I am truly blessed. Joining the military has helped me climb the corporate ladder 🪜. From a trailer in Mississippi to a house in Los Angeles, zero down on a home, no student loan debt, and two graduate degrees. I am doing alright here :)
I got a 2 year degree and it has taken me further than a lot of ppl. But now that I want to do something else it has held me back pay wise. So there are good things and bad things. Or it might be sad that a 2 year degree pays better than a 4 year and that's why I'm finding it hard to transition and not lose money.
I get that many people feel a degree isn't worth the return they're currently getting but the truth is unless you go about acquiring a special skill by some other means, you're still generally even worse off without a degree. The truth is that while a degree can place you on q better lifetime career track as a freshly minted graduate you're still on the bottom of that track. The benefit of a degree is a long game.
@@Tim85-y2q Nope they're doing it backwards. Get a job and if you want to stay in that field then get the degree. Getting the degree first doesn't guarantee you'll ever work in that field
There are a lot of fields where it's impossible to get a job without the proper credentials. A degree doesn't garentee anything put it's often the price of entry to at least be able to compete.
Ill tell you, I got my degree to be a Veterinarian technician which is basically an animal nurse. 90% ended up being learned on the job. Almost 100% what I learned in college ended up just being a "for your info" type thing. I never even used the knowledge because once I got in practice I realized we're just a glorified assistant instead of our own entity like college explains we are. (Or at the least have more privileges than just a assistant off the street) wish I wouldnt have wasted those 2 years. Couldve just gone to a vet and worked without it
I'm glad you made this video, it reminds me of my transformation from a nobody to good home, honest husband, $75k biweekly and a good daughter full of love❤️
Elizabeth Regina has really set the standard for others to follow, we love her here in the UK as she has been really helpful and changed lots of life's.
The problem the degree system was made to gate-keep. Those who earned their degree only end up hired in jobs irrelevant to their degree. Under qualification (to an extent) is what employers are looking for. In turn, that’s why products & services have become so bland, low-quality, and leaving us nostalgic & yearning for the quality that was once prevalent in the past.
On the other hand, a degree/certificate will never guarantee you a job automatically, only qualifies you for the opportunity. Also, watch out for scam jobs & fake job listings.
Exactly jobs no longer want to touch college graduates. That's why "ghost job' epidemic is most seeing they have a loaded resume and rejecting them which is crazy but jobs are literally doing that
@CyberMachine I'm a hiring manager. Ghost jobs aren't just jobs that aren't real in most cases. A lot of them are jobs posted and handled by 3rd party out sourcing like indeed that act as a constant opened door of applications especially in industries with high turn over. Meaning those postings are up when they are hiring, but they're also posted when they're not. Giving the illusion, they're not real. Sometimes, to even heighten the illusion , on-boarding teams will even do interviews even if they're not hiring because they still have to justify their role in the company they can't just do nothing and still get paid. But it can be beneficial when they build other locations, which why they're big on asking, "Are you willing to relocate" is a very frequently question. But honestly, middle management roles like these tend to just be the fluff between upper and lower management to shift blame and terminate when necessary as well.
I have 2 degrees and they help me in my career. I think you need to have an idea of what you wanna do before getting a degree. Some degrees are useless but some can be used in many different fields. And there are some that are more specific. I don't think college is for everyone but those who plan on going should do some research on jobs and different degrees.
fight back lie like hell on your résumé put in a job in a foreign country where it's almost impossible to check your references they have their game you have yours
If they can't verify it, they're likely going to treat is as nonexistant at best and mark.you.down as a liar at worst. Just be honest and straightforward and work om.getting the actual credentials you need. Above all, remember that Rome wasn't built in a day.
We have another problem : in a few years there will be large wave of retirees leaving the workforce soooooooo What will this actually look like in 5 years time ?
I graduated from college with a Bachelor's in Accounting in 1999. I'm working a job in Logistics that pays about the same as the mid-level accounting positions in our corporate offices. My Logistics job doesn't require a college degree and I really like it. Going back to accounting isn't a good option because my education and experience in that field is too stale.
Of course you can't have 10 years of experience at 23 but the part people seem to be missing is that you can at 33. Having a degree is the price of admission for many fields, not a pass to start on the middle of the ladder.
10 years experience is just an arbitrary number. By the time we reach 33, they’ll just up the number to 20 years. It’s just gate-keeping hiring to target specific age-groups that are going to be a better “culture-fit”.
They're always going to prefer the person with the most experience who's willing to take the job. The point is you need to get experience to be competitive and that only comes with time. A degree is only half the equation.
I went to college for me. I learn what I needed to. As an electronic technician, I am able to do anything I put my mind to it. I love electronics. I hope you go to college because you want to improve the skills you already have. Enjoy
Notice how the people in this video have degrees in: marketing, business administration and sales? Those jobs never required a degree. For the one girl with a degree in Chemistry, no one hires a BS in science.
I got a business administration degree and work in supply chain management as a purchasing agent which “requires” a degree
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@@AlbatrossWhisper You specialized in Logistics via Supply Chain management, that is still a specialty in business and an in-demand one. The people complaining have a general Business Management degree which is pointless.
Well im a purchasing Agent so its more on the procurement side. Its a good job including business trips around the nation. But yeah if you’re going to major in business, specialize in something valuable like accounting, SCM, MIS etc
In the eyes of the employer, its more than just you they are paying for. Theres Corporate taxes, health costs and other relevant operational costs that they have to look after. Really its just the employer being cheap in which i understand. Cash flow is closely being monitored by corporate America, more than you know, this includes hiring people.
@@rebeccabarrow125 lucky you, I tried that when I left the marines after 12 years of service. Didn’t get it. All I got was security for $15 and hour. Using the V&Re because hell at least that pay more to go back to school full time that most jobs
@@simonemorgan5139 Truth... I hope it works out very well for you. Thank you for your service I am a veteran of the Us. Army 😊 I thought about using the V&Re myself because, I still need a better job. But, with a family I need to have health insurance. So, most likely I will have to fight for my little bit of a Veterans affairs rating for 100%. Best wishes 🙏
The ultimate hack is joining the service just for 4 years finding something you like to do get out and go to school for free. Now you have experience and a degree.
A lot of people major in useless things regarding college. I always advise going the stem route when majoring in college. That is the absolute best way to see a guaranteed ROI.
I disagree, because stem is usually very difficult and statistics show that many engineering students graduate on average after 6 years for a 4 year degree, and to be fair, there is no shortage of engineers today, it is very saturated. Also in STEM, be very careful with the S in STEM because science is overrated today, biology, chemistry, mathematics do not provide work like they used to. So main focuse should be TE, since even the M is saturated IMO.
When in human history did people "like" their means of income? They "liked" not starving to de*th and did whatever they could do to prevent that. Typically that meant substistance farming 16+ hours per day every day and one bad growing season threw your family into serious peril.
Isnt exactly a new problem. Ten years ago i remember being completely unemployable with my education in tech due to not enough experience. But what i didnt do is go make videos and complain to the world about it 😅
@@prettysteeve47 Some people can mutli-task. Just because their giving advice about the uselessness of college online doesn't mean their not working their butts off.
I most people should understand that college is not a place to have "fun", it is a place to network and get an education. Every students should look for internships and connections while in college. If you can have "fun" and get the "college experience" good for you those are extra perks. But, what matters the most is how good of a life you get after college and not during college. Like common do you want 4 years of fun, then a life of misery or the opposite ? Pick the right major, make connections with your profs, go to career fair for internships, join on campus association that would help you improve yourself. College is not cheap, so make it worth it ( in my case, I'm thankful for the scholarships I'm receiving, but all that came through making connections and some sacrifices. Electrical Engineering is no joke lol.) Good luck to everyone!
I didn't hear any problems with medical doctors yet, but since 2013 I have heard of people struggling to find jobs as an engineer, usually because they never took an internship during college.
@JoseOrtiz-zx8sf I don't think he said engineering or medical degrees he Said degrees in general. Don't be intentionally obtuse just to start an argument. But to rebuttal that. We all know fields are useful but the fact is even those fields are becoming overly saturated which also part of the problem.
@@JoseOrtiz-zx8sf Look at the state of software at the moment. Plenty talented software engineers competing in an oversaturated job market, many junior new grad engineers are struggling atm, not all but many.
Ah and this with "experience" started allready more then decates before - how can we get experience without nobody letting us starting? AH I understand: we has to keep low perform slavs without getting paid
at 33, going on 34, maybe i'm out of touch but listening to some of these young people is amazing. it's amazing that they think because they have a degree, that should waive the experience requirement, and that they should go right into middle management especially with these super broad degrees. they are too young to realize that EXPERIENCE WITH A DEGREE as been a standard for at least the last 10-15 years. that is nothing new. Furthermore, it's not our fault some of yall didn't have to work while go to school. that's not the reality for A LOT of us because we didn't come from money. but if you're wondering how to have experience fresh out college, there it is lol. Those first jobs at 16, 17, etc. matter and should be listed until you progress far enough in your career. But today's kids don't wanna do ANY extremely low level job and that's on them. Burger King, Wendy's and the grocery store were DEFINITELY listed on my resume on the beginning - that's experience.
Useless degrees. Sorry... They got degrees that are oversaturated and not very technical making them a supply and demand situation. Then their social media accounts, they are boring, not unique, valley girl. Children could do a better job. So sorry, you don't stand out or have useful skills especially in this recession. STEM. Some of the only useful degrees out there, hard to get and weeds out people. Graduated in 2016 computer science. Now I'm 29, no debt, earn $120k, and fully WFH. If you include benefits and company 401k match, I'm probably getting 200k. For the vast majority of people, social media is not sustainable.
If you are from a third-world country and you get a chance to go to school, GO! And do well. For many of us, education is THEE difference between being financially stable or not, education gives us options. This is VERY Western message, your country will NOT provide any cushion if things don't work out. Go to school.
Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard, and Space Force are all hiring. College graduates usually qualify to be Officers. Space Force and Air Force taking recruits until age 42. None of them talking list their military recruiter experience. I was an Army Medic x 6 years during MAD. So can they.
Joining the armed forces to get a degree is a terrible idea. First, you are required to serve for a period of time, and you are forced to either live on base or relocate whenever you are told. Also, it seems like cases of unexplained deaths are becoming more and more common, which is bad enough, but the armed forces tend to suppress these stories or do a half-ass job investigating. Lastly, racism and discrimination is an open secret, so unless you are a straight white male, then you are less likely to succeed.
@@Tim85-y2q Maybe that was the case before, but recruits are low across all branches except for the air force (I believe). They are handing out waivers for everything. The navy did away with the need for even a high school diploma/GED. People show up to Basic overweight and extremely out of shape. My husband has worked with privates who were in their early 40's. The military is desperate these days.
@@Mimi-hn6iv Part of the reason recruitment is so low is because standards are higher. Some of those may get waived, but the days when they'd take any warm body went out with Project 100,000
this generation? haahahhhahaha.. I am Gen X. Try graduating from HS and your BS who dropped out and got his GED had more money than you. Because he knew it was a scam and started working earlier. This is life. This is what learning is.. It is great watching people realize these things live.
Anyjob you do take care, you enjoy, don't Stone? Do it for the money? Do it because you enjoy what you do in life. Most people don't like what they do and they're very unhappy. I'm blessed I love my life. I have a great. I'm doing everything I want. So I have no complaints.
I'm 54 and my wife and I are VERY worried about our future, gas and food prices rising daily. We have had our savings dwindle with the cost of living into the stratosphere, and we are finding it impossible to replace them. We can get by, but can't seem to get ahead. My condolences to anyone retiring in this crisis, 30 years nonstop just for a crooked system to take all you worked for.
I feel your pain mate, as a fellow retiree, I'd suggest you look into passive index fund investing and learn some more. For me, I had my share of ups and downs when I first started looking for a consistent passive income so I hired an expert advisor for aid, and following her advice, I poured $30k in value stocks and digital assets, Up to 200k so far and pretty sure I'm ready for whatever comes.
In the 80's my Dad worked a modest job, Mom stayed at home and raised the kids, and they lived a nice middle class lifestyle including owning a home. Nowadays both I and my partner works and can barely afford to make ends meet. Soon the kids and family dog will need to work to keep this household going. It's the destruction of the American dream right before our eyes.
If you are not in the financial market space right now, you are making a huge mistake. I understand that it could be due to ignorance, but if you want to make your money work for you...prevent inflation
I was a late bloomer, but Tracy Britt Cool Consulting, my financial advisor helped me bring it all together and got me into crypto. Now retired for 6 years at 72, my managed portfolio with Tracy generates about 9k a month on average more than my RMD on my retirement accounts. Not real big, but together with SS we're able to live reasonably with 160k a year. While being mortgage free.
I think college degrees have become too easy to get. Anyone can get a degree. You really don't have to be that smart. Plus, I know lots of people that have degrees that had other people write their essays and other stuff for them!
@augustusbrown5320 Exactly, CSR/CSA should pay AT LEAST $20/25. Especially for all the knowledge you have to maintain on policy, procedure, product, services, and the toxicity you have to endure.
We are a service economy, almost all jobs are service jobs, you are the product. Agriculture is our main actual product and farmers are under attack. Our country's main resource is the US Dollar ponzi scheme that is reaching its breaking point as the rest of the world has caught on to the scam.
You need a masters in “English literature” to fulfill a customer service job. How else are you supposed to understand your customers from another country
Also the blonde that curling her hair says that she's not worried about money and this is not what it's about. Of course you would say that she's living with her parents so she doesn't look stressed and is not stressed her parents are taking good care of her.
What's ridiculous is the college I went to for BS finance brags about coordinating w/the local large corporations to ensure the graduates are prepared for the jobs ... well, isn't it interesting that these companies are now struggling and have no jobs available for these new grads. I've been lucky that ive been able to find some great roles in my field, however I know there are many who ended up working in retail, restaurants, drivere, etc because they couldn't market themselves well enough. Fast forward to 15 yrs later and this classmates will probably never land a job in their field with this economy. It's tough even with over a decade experience. praying for everyone, that this job market will get better! God bless 🙏
I wished colleges actually gave hands on experience in whatever job a person was applying for, rather than just a bunch of text books with test answers on things that are soo niche they wouldn’t be experienced. But I guess that’s what trade school and doctoral type degrees are for. I’ve learned more from discord servers than I did in my whole school career(which btw sounds like total bs and delusional and crazy. And it is all of those) How does being on social media teach a person more skills than college?
The good colleges do that. It’s called coop. I gave up a full scholarship in one university for admission to University of Waterloo coop opportunities which paid for school and got me a Federal government job.
loving my physio degree because of that. ❤ Any theory class we get combined with hands on skills a few days later
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If you are studying engineering or computer science, internships are supposed to help you with that. Hopefully, the university has some type of deal with a local industry that commonly hires people with those degrees and background. My college was near an Aero-Space center, so they regularly did internships and hired graduates from the local university engineering and computer science program. The space center and the shipyard both commonly did internships and hired these graduates.
if teachers are leaving, then nope education isn't the best, i would say even coding and engineering are probably the best to land a job at the moment.
90 percent of these people have a degree in having fun. Work is not generally a fun thing to do, unless you are incredibly talented to begin with, which these folks are clearly not. I'd hire a person with no degree and a work ethic over a 3 degreed "social media" expert in nothing.
That's the thing. You have a degree showing you can study, but not a track record showing you have a good work ethic. That's what a lot of people learn too late. I would tell anyone these days to go work, THEN go to school, if you really want a degree. Heck, a lot of companies will pay tuition reimbursement.
It’s more than that too. Just from watching them speak, it’s obvious they are not someone you would want to hire. I can’t fully describe it, but I just know that these aren’t the people I would want to be working with. Their personality factor is bad.
I think alot of ppl assume due to obtaining a degree theyre suppose to graduate earning six figures right out the gate and that's definitely not the case . There's a thing called paying dues learning to crawl before u can walk etc..the degree is wonderful to have but pls don't think you're entitled to high earnings simply bcuz of that. And yes at times when u start out you're going to be offered sucky ass positions and here's the thing those positions will not be long term so why not do the Job to the best of your ability learn the in and outs and work your way up . Some times employers look at how u view low level positions if u think it's beneath u and you're going about it lazily and not gaf do u really think they will consider u for higher position? I find this generation doesn't want to put the work into actual work smh
How can possibly determine if a non degree candidate has "good work ethic" over a college graduate in a job interview? We worked four years to complete a degree, possibly while juggling jobs and other commitments... plenty of us proved ourselves by getting the degree
What's really interesting is the idea of going to college to learn something is completely lost, it's all about what can make you money, some people want to go to college to genuinely learn.
In Norway at one point 75% of college students were pursuing engineering degrees. It's not hard to identify degrees that are lucrative, getting a lucrative degree itself will likely be hard for most, but thats why it easy to get a good paying job in that field.
@@JoeBlow-fp5ng That's only in China. Around the rest of the world people can still at least find minimum wage bs jobs. People without degrees can't even find that
The first girl didn’t research her field well enough. A bachelor’s degree alone in the hard sciences has never been enough for anything more than a lab tech job. You usually need a masters and preferably a doctoral degree to be able to do research in at least a semi-autonomous way.
Degrees were never good for jobs (other than regulated industry). Back then companies were desperate for workers and were forced to wait for you to graduate.
Recent grad; too young, too inexperienced. Former grad: too old, wrong experience. This is just because for many careers and jobs managers make more money for keeping payroll down, and investors/boards want more money. The reality is we are facing an economic crash, the rich know that.
Crazy thing for me is how much I feel this. This an in “I did literally everything right and can’t even make enough money to live” I’m a biochemistry and molecular Biology dual major that had 2 years work experience in my field coming out of college. I graduated with honors from a really good private university, and had to spend the next year nonstop applying to any jobs I could find. When I figured out market rate for my skill set and experience was $40k annually, my jaw nailed the floor. The job I finally got after a year of nonstop applying paid $52k which should be the greatest right? Wrong, I live in Austin Texas, and $52k is far too little to manage student loans, car payment, rent, food, and utilities, let alone medication and retirement savings. I had to move back in with my parents while I work full time as quality control in a pharmaceutical company. I even went into stem thinking this was the path where I’d get enough money to recoup the losses of student loans. What a scam…
They aren't hiring the people who graduated 8 years ago either. Millennials have been saying the same thing. Guys it's time to get a new economy. Gen Z is finding out what we did.
Professional ex gf/bf annoyer. People pay you to minorly inconvenience their ex. For example getting on the same elevator as them and pressing every button. Accidently spilling your drink on their shoes. Or socially pressuring them to do a Tiktok with you.
Honestly get a trade/vocational training in something can't be done remotely by someone willing to be paid 1/3 of what you would expect to be paid in the states.
This teaches you to be a slave to the system. That's why I live all time tickly. I live a cinema. Awesome because of the choice I made. I love the way I live.
School is not for everybody, so the job is done. If everybody you gotta find Joe Wayne, that's what I say. Guys think for yourself. Live life on your terms. That's what I did school is different enough for me never wants to college. I'm a why won't the cleaning business? I live on 26th street and I'm doing pretty well right now because do I live. I'm a rich or nothing. I live a simple life and I never went to school. In fact, I'm happier than a lot of people went to college. Cause that date no to cancel money. I owe nothing.
There are former nurses who have You Tube channels discussing how to begin an OF channel. They left the field to do OF permanently as soon as their salaries exceeded their former salaries.
@@kni9ght try to get a union apprenticeship, because they pay you while you learn. However, start applying now, because apprenticeship applications open every 2 years in some states. I am kicking myself because I assumed that I would have gotten a job soon after graduating, so I brushed off my local plumbing apprenticeship application, but now I can't find crap even with a PhD in a stem field.
College degrees is not worth it anymore. Imagine my son with Mech Engineering degree and earning only $200k after 7 years with his govt job. It is not worth it at all. lol
Cap. Mech engineers at at mid level experience don't usually make 200k unless in high cost of living areas. I graduated earlier this as a mechanical engineer and I only make 85k at 23. I had the misconception that engineers made 100k starting but I only know a few people who graduated with me that make that, and they either live in Seattle/LA or they pivoted into consulting or tech If I had went to trade school instead of college, I would have already graduated and had a few years of work experience by now. From what I hear, in some fields even those with few years of work experience make over 100k. I dont hate the job I have (it is better than being unemployed and not paying bills) but it doesnt pay all that well and I'm bored at a desk all day. All because I could sit quietly and did well in math and science, I was pushed to do engineering over "blue-collar" work, being told they are paid less, what a lie. I would not recommend engineering in most cases to people who like making things and learning the science of how stuff works. The technicians jobs are way more interesting and the pay is almost the same anyways
It depends on more than just what the degree is in, it's also what effort you put in AFTER the degree. I got a Bachelors in Psychology and make around 90k working for the state, with total compensation well over 100k. Many people get degrees and say "Where is my high-paying job?" - the correct answer is "continued education via certifications and experience" will eventually lead to said job, but it won't be instant.
Take the classes to get the information you need to make you business work. The degree isn't necessary for those who want to do the job. Look at the likes of Gates and Jobs. That's how you do it. College is just another way to avoid growing up.
Could you explain to me why a physician would need an undergraduate degree versus going straight into a medical program? I hear this point parroted a lot, but I don't really hear anyone give me solid rationale for it.
I'm assuming obtaining an undergraduate degree helps prove that you are competent enough in that specific field before going to medical school. That's just my guess.
@@musiklovers3189 The government needs people to stay in school to keep them out of the workforce. Too many people and not enough jobs. School is just daycare for adults who are waiting their turn for employment.
College is a business they know degrees don’t help like they use too. They just want your money
Exactly, I'm scared for MY future and the future of this country 😢
@@mayc8674 I get that happens but it’s mostly who you know
Statistically they do .
Join the military 🪖
@@07ikkinjoin the military, the Army is handle out bonuses like candy.
Never get a Business Management Degree unless you have a specialization like Logistics, Marketing, or Accounting/ Finance. If all you have is Business Management, you might as well just be a Dominoe's pizza store manager at least they have a corporate pipeline to help you move up further.
This is true. I’m a CPA and have talked many out of a business degree. I have an MBA - pretty pointless degree. I also have a graduate degree in accounting - this one WAS helpful.
My mother told me the exact same thing.
Yup I did accounting with my business degree
The problem is the way traditional 4-year college is currently, being marketing is the real ... SCAM. In the early 1980's when, I earned my B.S. degree in Electrical Engineering, we all knew there was no connection between a college degree and obtaining a job in the field related to your earned degree. 1st) Does you family own their own "blue" collar business (i.e. plumbing, hearting and air conditioning repairmen, electrician, welding, etc)? If yes, them just get on the job training and start your career; 2nd) If, there is no family business and, you still want to work in the trades go to community college for 1-year and then get an apprenticeship; 3rd) If you want to be a draftsman or an RN Nurse then, just go to community college for two years and earn an AA degree. Also, please do not forget commission sales jobs never require any education past High School (i.e. Life Insurance agent, Real Estate agent, and Stock Broker, etc.)
You say you all new that there was no connection between a college degree and obtaining work in the field.
But they view I get is, and correct me if I am wrong, that if you had a BS in electrical engineering companies would see it as a proof of hard work and skill and very often hire you since they would teach you at the job. But again maybe that is wrong? I was not around in the 80s
My view however of today is that the BS degree is bare minimum, but they want you to know at least 50% when starting out, you do not need to know 100%, but definitely more than 10% that the degree gives you, So somehow you need to find the remaining knowledge through ether internships or someway else.
Maybe it has become more expensive to hire? Or companies are afraid you will leave early and not worth to teach you. But Companies seem today to be terrified to teach from the basics today.
The crazy part about asking for 5+years experience is calling it "entry level". The amount of responsibilities do not match the pay. I have 10+years experience. How dare you ask for 5+years experience and want to pay crap. The only thing about the job being called "Entry-level" is the pay.
It’s just to weed out applicants. Meaning that position is overly saturated.In my field they are paying over 40 an hour no degree requirement and have a hard time filling positions.
Is true many entry level requirements 3-4 year and low payment you need 2 or 3 job to save money.
That's because they are just eliminating entry level positions now. I was trying the entry level route in a new field after grad school but got laid off in under a year. Can't get any interviews to convert to a job offer for the mid level positions
I got a bachelors and got a corporate supply chain job. The whole thing only cost me 11k because i went to CC and had grants. Beats stocking shelves
Degrees ARE worth having. The debt for student loans is the issue
All degrees are not the same. Psychology. English Lit. Sociology, etc. Enjoy teaching. At least you still get summers off.
@@LemonStank no they are not the same but they are proof of willingness to learn. I worked in a low level job in finance and a colleague had a degree in.... Marine biology...he was earning far more than me in a higher job
@@skyblazeeterno
You can prove a determination to learn without a degree. There are actually certain roles where a degree won't get anywhere, but a certificate or certification will.
No but even those degrees are often the point of entry to white-collar work
It sucks that degrees have value. If I go to school I would care about learning things, not a paper.
Attended a crappy low end school, and earned a engineering degree while working full time, this was after I finished a military enlistment. I was offered and accepted a good job before my last semester, so I had no worries about a job during my last semester of college. To stay marketable I needed to develop and maintain my skill set. Subsequently I've never went to an interview and had not been offered the job. Without the degree I would never have gotten a "foot in the door".
Thank you for your service. You as a veteran and also having a security clearance gives you a leg up. The reality that you have been in the military shows you have work experience, most of these people complaining on this tiktok could not do an internship and without the internship does college degrees are useless.
Your experience is not common
@@maverickbull1909Above 80% is a common outcome. Over 80% of graduates ended up working in the field of the degree earned. Crappy school but good statistics. I knew the statistics for the school going in.
@@nightdipper5178 pulling stats out of your butt is fun huh?
@@maverickbull1909
Needing a degree to work in engineering *is* common. What is actually *uncommon* is landing an engineering role *without* a degree.
High paying jobs have been outsourced to my country (el salvador), where companies get the same job done at a quarter de cost.
And they get an equivalent quality of product, which is shit
I feel bamboozled! The gov't got me good, now I owe them money.
Don't listen to people who say getting a degree is not needed. There are many positions that REQUIRE a four year degree. My company will not even interview you if you don't have at least a bachelors. Find out if your field of interest is the same.
Dude, join the military 🪖
Your parents let you down.
@JoeBlow-fp5ng Joe Blow, the loving mane (Dolemite 😆), I am truly blessed. Joining the military has helped me climb the corporate ladder 🪜. From a trailer in Mississippi to a house in Los Angeles, zero down on a home, no student loan debt, and two graduate degrees. I am doing alright here :)
I can agree that college degrees dont hit like they used to...but, 2 year degree/certificates will be better for you landing a job.
I got a 2 year degree and it has taken me further than a lot of ppl. But now that I want to do something else it has held me back pay wise. So there are good things and bad things. Or it might be sad that a 2 year degree pays better than a 4 year and that's why I'm finding it hard to transition and not lose money.
that's why you can always start at a community college and for sure they can get you associates before you get the bachelor's.
@@davidbosley7126 Spot on, and they are less expensive as well!
I get that many people feel a degree isn't worth the return they're currently getting but the truth is unless you go about acquiring a special skill by some other means, you're still generally even worse off without a degree.
The truth is that while a degree can place you on q better lifetime career track as a freshly minted graduate you're still on the bottom of that track. The benefit of a degree is a long game.
Most high-paying CAREERS require a degree & experience at minimum.
Exactly. A big problem is many young people think getting a degree is the end of the grind when it's really just the first step.
@@Tim85-y2q Nope they're doing it backwards. Get a job and if you want to stay in that field then get the degree. Getting the degree first doesn't guarantee you'll ever work in that field
@@CyberMachine
That is the key.
There are a lot of fields where it's impossible to get a job without the proper credentials. A degree doesn't garentee anything put it's often the price of entry to at least be able to compete.
Ill tell you, I got my degree to be a Veterinarian technician which is basically an animal nurse. 90% ended up being learned on the job. Almost 100% what I learned in college ended up just being a "for your info" type thing. I never even used the knowledge because once I got in practice I realized we're just a glorified assistant instead of our own entity like college explains we are. (Or at the least have more privileges than just a assistant off the street) wish I wouldnt have wasted those 2 years. Couldve just gone to a vet and worked without it
I was so shocked they even have that as a degree because vet techs don't need degrees at all. Now THAT is a scan of a degree.
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The problem the degree system was made to gate-keep. Those who earned their degree only end up hired in jobs irrelevant to their degree. Under qualification (to an extent) is what employers are looking for. In turn, that’s why products & services have become so bland, low-quality, and leaving us nostalgic & yearning for the quality that was once prevalent in the past.
On the other hand, a degree/certificate will never guarantee you a job automatically, only qualifies you for the opportunity. Also, watch out for scam jobs & fake job listings.
Minimum wage is catching up now so unless they start paying people more there will be no point in going to college.
Exactly jobs no longer want to touch college graduates. That's why "ghost job' epidemic is most seeing they have a loaded resume and rejecting them which is crazy but jobs are literally doing that
@@THETHIRDL2009 Thats not what a ghost job is or the reason they are put on job sites
@CyberMachine I'm a hiring manager. Ghost jobs aren't just jobs that aren't real in most cases. A lot of them are jobs posted and handled by 3rd party out sourcing like indeed that act as a constant opened door of applications especially in industries with high turn over. Meaning those postings are up when they are hiring, but they're also posted when they're not. Giving the illusion, they're not real. Sometimes, to even heighten the illusion , on-boarding teams will even do interviews even if they're not hiring because they still have to justify their role in the company they can't just do nothing and still get paid. But it can be beneficial when they build other locations, which why they're big on asking, "Are you willing to relocate" is a very frequently question. But honestly, middle management roles like these tend to just be the fluff between upper and lower management to shift blame and terminate when necessary as well.
I have 2 degrees and they help me in my career. I think you need to have an idea of what you wanna do before getting a degree. Some degrees are useless but some can be used in many different fields. And there are some that are more specific. I don't think college is for everyone but those who plan on going should do some research on jobs and different degrees.
undergrad in communications and a masters in social media lol wow
Is her curling iron on?
Don't go into engineering. It's just grunt work
That they are outsourcing
Some of my family members think I’m crazy for not wanting to go to college and end up with student loan debt.
they failed gen z
For me it was necessary bc it's required for what I do. It's not for everybody though.
fight back lie like hell on your résumé put in a job in a foreign country where it's almost impossible to check your references they have their game you have yours
If they can't verify it, they're likely going to treat is as nonexistant at best and mark.you.down as a liar at worst.
Just be honest and straightforward and work om.getting the actual credentials you need. Above all, remember that Rome wasn't built in a day.
We have another problem : in a few years there will be large wave of retirees leaving the workforce soooooooo
What will this actually look like in 5 years time ?
It'll just be a couple of boomers on top and a workforce either filled with AI or Indians working from Banglore.
jobs going overseas and to illegal immigrants bilingual jobs
I graduated from college with a Bachelor's in Accounting in 1999. I'm working a job in Logistics that pays about the same as the mid-level accounting positions in our corporate offices. My Logistics job doesn't require a college degree and I really like it. Going back to accounting isn't a good option because my education and experience in that field is too stale.
Of course you can't have 10 years of experience at 23 but the part people seem to be missing is that you can at 33. Having a degree is the price of admission for many fields, not a pass to start on the middle of the ladder.
33 yr old cannot afford to have an entry level job. So they are trying to screw both of us
10 years experience is just an arbitrary number. By the time we reach 33, they’ll just up the number to 20 years. It’s just gate-keeping hiring to target specific age-groups that are going to be a better “culture-fit”.
They're always going to prefer the person with the most experience who's willing to take the job. The point is you need to get experience to be competitive and that only comes with time. A degree is only half the equation.
I went to college for me. I learn what I needed to. As an electronic technician, I am able to do anything I put my mind to it. I love electronics. I hope you go to college because you want to improve the skills you already have. Enjoy
Notice how the people in this video have degrees in: marketing, business administration and sales? Those jobs never required a degree. For the one girl with a degree in Chemistry, no one hires a BS in science.
thank you !!!!
I got a business administration degree and work in supply chain management as a purchasing agent which “requires” a degree
@@AlbatrossWhisper You specialized in Logistics via Supply Chain management, that is still a specialty in business and an in-demand one. The people complaining have a general Business Management degree which is pointless.
Well im a purchasing Agent so its more on the procurement side. Its a good job including business trips around the nation. But yeah if you’re going to major in business, specialize in something valuable like accounting, SCM, MIS etc
@@SomeUserNameBlahBlah My daughter got a job with a bachelor's degree in biology
She works as a hydrologist.
In the eyes of the employer, its more than just you they are paying for. Theres Corporate taxes, health costs and other relevant operational costs that they have to look after. Really its just the employer being cheap in which i understand.
Cash flow is closely being monitored by corporate America, more than you know, this includes hiring people.
Yea the most you are going to get without a degree is $15 an hour that’s why I’m going back
Not always true I make more than that. However, I work in the Federal government
@@rebeccabarrow125 lucky you, I tried that when I left the marines after 12 years of service. Didn’t get it. All I got was security for $15 and hour. Using the V&Re because hell at least that pay more to go back to school full time that most jobs
@@simonemorgan5139 Truth... I hope it works out very well for you.
Thank you for your service
I am a veteran of the Us. Army 😊
I thought about using the V&Re myself because, I still need a better job. But, with a family I need to have health insurance. So, most likely I will have to fight for my little bit of a Veterans affairs rating for 100%.
Best wishes 🙏
The ultimate hack is joining the service just for 4 years finding something you like to do get out and go to school for free. Now you have experience and a degree.
Can anyone of those geniuses work with Office, Lotus and SAP at all?
If you tied their hands they couldn't talk!😂
A lot of people major in useless things regarding college. I always advise going the stem route when majoring in college. That is the absolute best way to see a guaranteed ROI.
I disagree, because stem is usually very difficult and statistics show that many engineering students graduate on average after 6 years for a 4 year degree, and to be fair, there is no shortage of engineers today, it is very saturated. Also in STEM, be very careful with the S in STEM because science is overrated today, biology, chemistry, mathematics do not provide work like they used to. So main focuse should be TE, since even the M is saturated IMO.
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When in human history did people "like" their means of income? They "liked" not starving to de*th and did whatever they could do to prevent that. Typically that meant substistance farming 16+ hours per day every day and one bad growing season threw your family into serious peril.
Isnt exactly a new problem.
Ten years ago i remember being completely unemployable with my education in tech due to not enough experience.
But what i didnt do is go make videos and complain to the world about it 😅
Brandon You were probably too busy working your butt off to stay alive and didnt have time to rant & complain about how rough life is.
@@prettysteeve47 Some people can mutli-task. Just because their giving advice about the uselessness of college online doesn't mean their not working their butts off.
Why the hell did you even get a degree in tech 10 years ago?! You could easily get a 90k job without one. I did and never finished my degree.
I most people should understand that college is not a place to have "fun", it is a place to network and get an education. Every students should look for internships and connections while in college. If you can have "fun" and get the "college experience" good for you those are extra perks. But, what matters the most is how good of a life you get after college and not during college. Like common do you want 4 years of fun, then a life of misery or the opposite ? Pick the right major, make connections with your profs, go to career fair for internships, join on campus association that would help you improve yourself. College is not cheap, so make it worth it ( in my case, I'm thankful for the scholarships I'm receiving, but all that came through making connections and some sacrifices. Electrical Engineering is no joke lol.) Good luck to everyone!
Degrees aren’t as coveted nowadays cause everyone has one.. just go to work and make money
Oh yeah? Everyone has an engineering or doctor degree? I would agree with you if you are talking about an arts degree? :).
I didn't hear any problems with medical doctors yet, but since 2013 I have heard of people struggling to find jobs as an engineer, usually because they never took an internship during college.
@JoseOrtiz-zx8sf I don't think he said engineering or medical degrees he Said degrees in general. Don't be intentionally obtuse just to start an argument. But to rebuttal that. We all know fields are useful but the fact is even those fields are becoming overly saturated which also part of the problem.
@@THETHIRDL2009 I think over saturation is ultimately what the overall problem is in society, I honestly don't really blame politicians much.
@@JoseOrtiz-zx8sf Look at the state of software at the moment. Plenty talented software engineers competing in an oversaturated job market, many junior new grad engineers are struggling atm, not all but many.
Could've gone to a trade or tech school instead but you wanted your summers off. Enjoy teaching!
Stop paying colleges for an education every thing is on the internet for free, I can repair air conditioners now, a high paying job.
Ah and this with "experience" started allready more then decates before - how can we get experience without nobody letting us starting? AH I understand: we has to keep low perform slavs without getting paid
Yes it’s a mess out there and it’s really shite compared to the past
at 33, going on 34, maybe i'm out of touch but listening to some of these young people is amazing.
it's amazing that they think because they have a degree, that should waive the experience requirement, and that they should go right into middle management especially with these super broad degrees.
they are too young to realize that EXPERIENCE WITH A DEGREE as been a standard for at least the last 10-15 years. that is nothing new. Furthermore, it's not our fault some of yall didn't have to work while go to school. that's not the reality for A LOT of us because we didn't come from money. but if you're wondering how to have experience fresh out college, there it is lol. Those first jobs at 16, 17, etc. matter and should be listed until you progress far enough in your career. But today's kids don't wanna do ANY extremely low level job and that's on them.
Burger King, Wendy's and the grocery store were DEFINITELY listed on my resume on the beginning - that's experience.
stop dont care about your fast food job experience they are look for Microsoft word and salesforce experience
Useless degrees. Sorry... They got degrees that are oversaturated and not very technical making them a supply and demand situation. Then their social media accounts, they are boring, not unique, valley girl. Children could do a better job. So sorry, you don't stand out or have useful skills especially in this recession. STEM. Some of the only useful degrees out there, hard to get and weeds out people. Graduated in 2016 computer science. Now I'm 29, no debt, earn $120k, and fully WFH. If you include benefits and company 401k match, I'm probably getting 200k. For the vast majority of people, social media is not sustainable.
Bachelor of Arts here since 2016. Can confirm grass is not always greener on the other side 🫡
If you are from a third-world country and you get a chance to go to school, GO! And do well. For many of us, education is THEE difference between being financially stable or not, education gives us options. This is VERY Western message, your country will NOT provide any cushion if things don't work out. Go to school.
Gen X here, I make 6 figures only with a certificate.
What certificate did you get?
Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard, and Space Force are all hiring. College graduates usually qualify to be Officers. Space Force and Air Force taking recruits until age 42. None of them talking list their military recruiter experience. I was an Army Medic x 6 years during MAD. So can they.
Not necessarily. A much higher percentage of people are ineligible for service than many realize.
Joining the armed forces to get a degree is a terrible idea. First, you are required to serve for a period of time, and you are forced to either live on base or relocate whenever you are told.
Also, it seems like cases of unexplained deaths are becoming more and more common, which is bad enough, but the armed forces tend to suppress these stories or do a half-ass job investigating.
Lastly, racism and discrimination is an open secret, so unless you are a straight white male, then you are less likely to succeed.
@@tempusername-l5dNot entirely true at all.
@@Tim85-y2q
Maybe that was the case before, but recruits are low across all branches except for the air force (I believe). They are handing out waivers for everything. The navy did away with the need for even a high school diploma/GED. People show up to Basic overweight and extremely out of shape. My husband has worked with privates who were in their early 40's. The military is desperate these days.
@@Mimi-hn6iv Part of the reason recruitment is so low is because standards are higher. Some of those may get waived, but the days when they'd take any warm body went out with Project 100,000
this generation? haahahhhahaha.. I am Gen X. Try graduating from HS and your BS who dropped out and got his GED had more money than you. Because he knew it was a scam and started working earlier. This is life. This is what learning is.. It is great watching people realize these things live.
Truth ❤
Join the military, dude!!!!!
If you didn’t study business or science, you wasted your time and money. Best bet, go to trade school.
real needed knollege is the opposide from degree nowdays began decates ago allready
Anyjob you do take care, you enjoy, don't Stone? Do it for the money? Do it because you enjoy what you do in life. Most people don't like what they do and they're very unhappy. I'm blessed I love my life. I have a great. I'm doing everything I want. So I have no complaints.
College is a waste of money unless you are going for s.t.e.m or something you really love.
I'm 54 and my wife and I are VERY worried about our future, gas and food prices rising daily. We have had our savings dwindle with the cost of living into the stratosphere, and we are finding it impossible to replace them. We can get by, but can't seem to get ahead. My condolences to anyone retiring in this crisis, 30 years nonstop just for a crooked system to take all you worked for.
I feel your pain mate, as a fellow retiree, I'd suggest you look into passive index fund investing and learn some more. For me, I had my share of ups and downs when I first started looking for a consistent passive income so I hired an expert advisor for aid, and following her advice, I poured $30k in value stocks and digital assets, Up to 200k so far and pretty sure I'm ready for whatever comes.
In the 80's my Dad worked a modest job, Mom stayed at home and raised the kids, and they lived a nice middle class lifestyle including owning a home. Nowadays both I and my partner works and can barely afford to make ends meet. Soon the kids and family dog will need to work to keep this household going. It's the destruction of the American dream right before our eyes.
If you are not in the financial market space right now, you are making a huge mistake. I understand that it could be due to ignorance, but if you want to make your money work for you...prevent inflation
I was a late bloomer, but Tracy Britt Cool Consulting, my financial advisor helped me bring it all together and got me into crypto. Now retired for 6 years at 72, my managed portfolio with Tracy generates about 9k a month on average more than my RMD on my retirement accounts. Not real big, but together with SS we're able to live reasonably with 160k a year. While being mortgage free.
She is really a good investment advisor. Was privileged to attend some of her seminars.that's how I started my own crypto investment
A lot of jobs these days don't even ask for degrees.....And if you notice the jobs that are available are customer service jobs.
I think college degrees have become too easy to get. Anyone can get a degree. You really don't have to be that smart. Plus, I know lots of people that have degrees that had other people write their essays and other stuff for them!
Low paying customer service jobs
@augustusbrown5320 Exactly, CSR/CSA should pay AT LEAST $20/25. Especially for all the knowledge you have to maintain on policy, procedure, product, services, and the toxicity you have to endure.
We are a service economy, almost all jobs are service jobs, you are the product. Agriculture is our main actual product and farmers are under attack. Our country's main resource is the US Dollar ponzi scheme that is reaching its breaking point as the rest of the world has caught on to the scam.
You need a masters in “English literature” to fulfill a customer service job. How else are you supposed to understand your customers from another country
HVAC apprentice does not start out at $100K...smh silly
Also the blonde that curling her hair says that she's not worried about money and this is not what it's about. Of course you would say that she's living with her parents so she doesn't look stressed and is not stressed her parents are taking good care of her.
Looks like it might be unplugged too.
She said everything as if it were a question.
Exactly, she's a narcissist with no real world common sense.
What's ridiculous is the college I went to for BS finance brags about coordinating w/the local large corporations to ensure the graduates are prepared for the jobs ... well, isn't it interesting that these companies are now struggling and have no jobs available for these new grads. I've been lucky that ive been able to find some great roles in my field, however I know there are many who ended up working in retail, restaurants, drivere, etc because they couldn't market themselves well enough. Fast forward to 15 yrs later and this classmates will probably never land a job in their field with this economy. It's tough even with over a decade experience. praying for everyone, that this job market will get better! God bless 🙏
I wished colleges actually gave hands on experience in whatever job a person was applying for, rather than just a bunch of text books with test answers on things that are soo niche they wouldn’t be experienced.
But I guess that’s what trade school and doctoral type degrees are for.
I’ve learned more from discord servers than I did in my whole school career(which btw sounds like total bs and delusional and crazy. And it is all of those)
How does being on social media teach a person more skills than college?
That’s why the medical field is great , what you do in clinicals is the same exact thing you’ll do once you graduate.
The good colleges do that. It’s called coop. I gave up a full scholarship in one university for admission to University of Waterloo coop opportunities which paid for school and got me a Federal government job.
loving my physio degree because of that. ❤ Any theory class we get combined with hands on skills a few days later
If you are studying engineering or computer science, internships are supposed to help you with that. Hopefully, the university has some type of deal with a local industry that commonly hires people with those degrees and background. My college was near an Aero-Space center, so they regularly did internships and hired graduates from the local university engineering and computer science program. The space center and the shipyard both commonly did internships and hired these graduates.
Education does too, I had to do student teaching all through out my college degree plus I worked too.
The fake red haired lady came off as so fake and condescending I don’t believe a word she said.
Next existence you’ll have a Grandmaster degree and working in a retail store because that’s the only job that’s hiring. Lmao..
Or needing a doctorate for burger flipping
@@kni9ght or a God degree for a dishwasher. Lol.
Lmao I am that person already, trying to switch fields again with a second masters and leave my supermarket job.
I personally think it's best to get a job in the education and medical industry...
The indoctrination camps and exploitation centers. Great idea!!!
Even teachers are walking away.
@@anemiapwns1bro what
@@cherxii4781 Mindless zombie corporation.
if teachers are leaving, then nope education isn't the best, i would say even coding and engineering are probably the best to land a job at the moment.
A bachelors degree is a HS diploma ..
90 percent of these people have a degree in having fun. Work is not generally a fun thing to do, unless you are incredibly talented to begin with, which these folks are clearly not. I'd hire a person with no degree and a work ethic over a 3 degreed "social media" expert in nothing.
That's the thing. You have a degree showing you can study, but not a track record showing you have a good work ethic. That's what a lot of people learn too late. I would tell anyone these days to go work, THEN go to school, if you really want a degree. Heck, a lot of companies will pay tuition reimbursement.
I would as well but, just did not want to say it (smile ... smile).
It’s more than that too. Just from watching them speak, it’s obvious they are not someone you would want to hire. I can’t fully describe it, but I just know that these aren’t the people I would want to be working with. Their personality factor is bad.
I think alot of ppl assume due to obtaining a degree theyre suppose to graduate earning six figures right out the gate and that's definitely not the case . There's a thing called paying dues learning to crawl before u can walk etc..the degree is wonderful to have but pls don't think you're entitled to high earnings simply bcuz of that. And yes at times when u start out you're going to be offered sucky ass positions and here's the thing those positions will not be long term so why not do the Job to the best of your ability learn the in and outs and work your way up . Some times employers look at how u view low level positions if u think it's beneath u and you're going about it lazily and not gaf do u really think they will consider u for higher position? I find this generation doesn't want to put the work into actual work smh
How can possibly determine if a non degree candidate has "good work ethic" over a college graduate in a job interview? We worked four years to complete a degree, possibly while juggling jobs and other commitments... plenty of us proved ourselves by getting the degree
What's really interesting is the idea of going to college to learn something is completely lost, it's all about what can make you money, some people want to go to college to genuinely learn.
In Norway at one point 75% of college students were pursuing engineering degrees. It's not hard to identify degrees that are lucrative, getting a lucrative degree itself will likely be hard for most, but thats why it easy to get a good paying job in that field.
For them it's hard to understand, aka the useless degrees and narcissistic attitudes lol
People with a degree: Damn I can only work low level jobs 😭
People without a degree: Aight guess I'll go beg on the street 😂
You need a degree to beg on the street.
@@JoeBlow-fp5ng That's only in China. Around the rest of the world people can still at least find minimum wage bs jobs. People without degrees can't even find that
The first girl didn’t research her field well enough. A bachelor’s degree alone in the hard sciences has never been enough for anything more than a lab tech job. You usually need a masters and preferably a doctoral degree to be able to do research in at least a semi-autonomous way.
Not really. People with masters and PhDs struggling to find work and are underpaid.
@@user-lu6yg3vk9z not people with masters and phds in stuff that matters
Yeah pretty much in any science field. I'm pursuing a masters in STEM so that I can get into a PHD program and figure out job options down the road
Biotech, microbio?
Maybe if they stopped using the word "literally" incorrectly it would help.
Degrees were never good for jobs (other than regulated industry). Back then companies were desperate for workers and were forced to wait for you to graduate.
F.Y.I if you want to be a lawyer or a doctor or a professional you need college.
Tell about the overpopulation please, what cause immigration,luck of houses,high prices,luck of jobs
The problem with these kids today is the employer can just look you up on social media, you can tell a lot by what people put up online.
Basically
Not if one doesn't use their real name online
Recent grad; too young, too inexperienced.
Former grad: too old, wrong experience.
This is just because for many careers and jobs managers make more money for keeping payroll down, and investors/boards want more money. The reality is we are facing an economic crash, the rich know that.
Teach yourself how to make more money and invest in the stock market...that is where the real money is.
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Crazy thing for me is how much I feel this. This an in “I did literally everything right and can’t even make enough money to live” I’m a biochemistry and molecular Biology dual major that had 2 years work experience in my field coming out of college. I graduated with honors from a really good private university, and had to spend the next year nonstop applying to any jobs I could find. When I figured out market rate for my skill set and experience was $40k annually, my jaw nailed the floor. The job I finally got after a year of nonstop applying paid $52k which should be the greatest right? Wrong, I live in Austin Texas, and $52k is far too little to manage student loans, car payment, rent, food, and utilities, let alone medication and retirement savings. I had to move back in with my parents while I work full time as quality control in a pharmaceutical company. I even went into stem thinking this was the path where I’d get enough money to recoup the losses of student loans. What a scam…
They aren't hiring the people who graduated 8 years ago either. Millennials have been saying the same thing. Guys it's time to get a new economy. Gen Z is finding out what we did.
I never understood why people study business and then want to work for someone else, set up your own business!
Give me a business idea lol
Professional ex gf/bf annoyer. People pay you to minorly inconvenience their ex. For example getting on the same elevator as them and pressing every button. Accidently spilling your drink on their shoes. Or socially pressuring them to do a Tiktok with you.
What job did that girl get without a degree in data analytics
Honestly get a trade/vocational training in something can't be done remotely by someone willing to be paid 1/3 of what you would expect to be paid in the states.
This teaches you to be a slave to the system. That's why I live all time tickly. I live a cinema. Awesome because of the choice I made. I love the way I live.
School is not for everybody, so the job is done. If everybody you gotta find Joe Wayne, that's what I say. Guys think for yourself. Live life on your terms. That's what I did school is different enough for me never wants to college. I'm a why won't the cleaning business? I live on 26th street and I'm doing pretty well right now because do I live. I'm a rich or nothing. I live a simple life and I never went to school. In fact, I'm happier than a lot of people went to college. Cause that date no to cancel money. I owe nothing.
these are all people that got useless degrees lol
There are former nurses who have You Tube channels discussing how to begin an OF channel. They left the field to do OF permanently as soon as their salaries exceeded their former salaries.
Science is free, but the equipment and knowledge is expensive
learn to plumb
Thinking about being a electrician to cover mine
@@kni9ght also a very smart choice
@@learntoplumb thank you, just about at that cut off age and that’s if my side business doesn’t work
@@kni9ght try to get a union apprenticeship, because they pay you while you learn.
However, start applying now, because apprenticeship applications open every 2 years in some states. I am kicking myself because I assumed that I would have gotten a job soon after graduating, so I brushed off my local plumbing apprenticeship application, but now I can't find crap even with a PhD in a stem field.
The meek will not inherit the Earth they're gonna live in a box
College degrees is not worth it anymore. Imagine my son with Mech Engineering degree and earning only $200k after 7 years with his govt job. It is not worth it at all. lol
Yup, was earning 425k out of college. 200k after 7yrs is a scam lmao.
Well, there is a difference in Mechanical Engineering degrees and a Communications degree. No one is saying that all degrees are worthless.
@@Tim85-y2qthat's his point
Nice, how many Mech Engineers working there field? How many making 200k a year?
Hint: Small minority are. Not the majority.
Cap. Mech engineers at at mid level experience don't usually make 200k unless in high cost of living areas. I graduated earlier this as a mechanical engineer and I only make 85k at 23. I had the misconception that engineers made 100k starting but I only know a few people who graduated with me that make that, and they either live in Seattle/LA or they pivoted into consulting or tech
If I had went to trade school instead of college, I would have already graduated and had a few years of work experience by now. From what I hear, in some fields even those with few years of work experience make over 100k.
I dont hate the job I have (it is better than being unemployed and not paying bills) but it doesnt pay all that well and I'm bored at a desk all day.
All because I could sit quietly and did well in math and science, I was pushed to do engineering over "blue-collar" work, being told they are paid less, what a lie.
I would not recommend engineering in most cases to people who like making things and learning the science of how stuff works. The technicians jobs are way more interesting and the pay is almost the same anyways
It depends on more than just what the degree is in, it's also what effort you put in AFTER the degree. I got a Bachelors in Psychology and make around 90k working for the state, with total compensation well over 100k.
Many people get degrees and say "Where is my high-paying job?" - the correct answer is "continued education via certifications and experience" will eventually lead to said job, but it won't be instant.
Lady you're not crazy. You are going through what I went through 2014.
Take the classes to get the information you need to make you business work. The degree isn't necessary for those who want to do the job. Look at the likes of Gates and Jobs. That's how you do it. College is just another way to avoid growing up.
All thos generation does is complain😡
So glad I was never fall for the trap but was always pressure to go to college
Join the military, UGC creator!!!
Could you explain to me why a physician would need an undergraduate degree versus going straight into a medical program? I hear this point parroted a lot, but I don't really hear anyone give me solid rationale for it.
I'm assuming obtaining an undergraduate degree helps prove that you are competent enough in that specific field before going to medical school. That's just my guess.
you need a foundation of lower level knowledge in maths/ bio/ chem/ etc
Young recent GRAD!!!! JOIN THE MILITARY!!!!!!!! IT is not that HARD!!! The Army is handling out LARGE BONUSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unfortunately, the government needs us to be in debt. I.e. Your registered BC & SSN. 🙁 It’s all a scam!😓
@@musiklovers3189 The government needs people to stay in school to keep them out of the workforce. Too many people and not enough jobs. School is just daycare for adults who are waiting their turn for employment.
@@Cynthia-h5i And they know most times that the time never comes unless you have connections. It’s ALWAYS about money.💰