There are specific setups possible to make it way easier as a barb vs a veno but then, fighting them would be pointless cause the barb would be unstoppale, especially on equal gears.
@@JoePWI what are those setups? And is there one to make it even? Lol idk how you did it man that fight what have made me need to go play league for a bit that shit was annoying lol.
When you are equally geared and lean toward max damage builts (full deity, attack on Chart, etc. ...) you can abuse the fact that you can basically oneshot a venomancer in human form with every, single skill you have. That allows you to use glyphs on mighty swing that do increase it's cooldown massively, but also give you 100% chance to paralyze. Especially the white glyph is very nice here because it also gives you quite a bit of range and also purifies you on use (20 sec CD tho). IF you then use trickery to proc the 2nd def charm with genie skills like Blade of Supreme heat (recommended since low cost) or Celestial Sword (more range but drains all your genie) you can then instantly chain violent Triumph (skill damage increase + 100% chance to crit on the next skill) and Bestial Onslaught or Ancestral Rage or even just Berserkers Wrath to insta-kill the veno if they are not quick enough on expel/AD and even if they are..since you have a 50 seconds lasting 100 Def level buff and 60 seconds of perma Faith...just try again. The genie of the veno will not be able to keep up at all. That also works vs nearly every other class in the game except for HA targets (cause they are mostly too tanky) and can be considered extremely broken..cause all of those skills cant even miss. 100% hit-chance. So if you at the very least ZC on those 3 ranged skills, the target is 100% dead if genie isn't use aka most of the fights become trivial and the only thing to kinda make it take longer is the question if you will kill the target on the first, the second or the third try, depending on their genie management xD
@@JoePWI LMAO damn. So since I come from bm I know how I can fight them on Barb. Any tips for seeker? Was also thinking maybe sb for my next r9 too since it seems most all around magic class.
@@TheSukairah seeker are insanely OP and BMs will make short work of venos now too..that is if you have the genie they habe introduced which allows you to get 2 sparks every 30 seconds for just 50 energy..which completely negates a venos chi drain and you know what happens when your chi is full xD Seeker could be somewhat harder..if you use a full counter genie tho..a veno will hardly kill you and if you manage to land a good SS combo you might eventually kill before getting killed xD
Jow, in your opinion, wich caster class is the strongest one rn? (I'm from a brazillian server, and want to make a new class based on PWI players opinions)
Lucas Jacone that depends on the sitatuation. In small scale PvP mystics and especially clerics are insanely OP cause its hard to kill them and they can either support like crazy, CC or deal damage themselves. In 1v1, venomancer and mystics are the strongest by far on average. Sbs are great vs HA-classes but very squishy, but also alot of fun to play. Personally, I love them all cept for psychics...useless class imho and pure RNG. My favorite to play and most fun caster is still the stormbringer, followed closly by the mystic. Overall most powerful is veno tho, but only if you master it completely.
It is very normal for veno debuffs lol, I guess you never fought a veno that fully debuffs, I can hit a deity sin for maybe 70k fully debuffed with a crit. If you think my dmg is OP with just 64k mag atk and 118 atk levels cause I swap to g17 then imagine a veno with 80k mag atk, my dmg is nothing compared to that xD
basically 0 veno on Ti focus on 1v1 hard, most are demon with a focus on support/demon ironwood for sillyness in xnw/xtw/tw/3v3. Do have some recent going pure vit for crush vigor on top. Even if we had some, 1v1 on Ti are for the most part in-between faction members, until we get some loudmouth in world chat, and with charm cost going up and event gold codes never popping up, not everyone want to 1v1 constantly as bad as i see on Da xD, I have an alt veno that follow that trend on the server, it is just a tad too behind on gears for me to be comfortable with to play more then just random shenanigans or secondary xtw fight
Hi there, I use to be a small time player back in 2012ish, probably only hit like 40-50 character lvl max.. I would eventually like to get into pvp but was wondering if pve is a big thing too? I've started playing a fresh veno and only questing atm. I quite enjoyed playing pwi because it was the first game of it's kind that I introduced myself to. Also do you if there are many Australian players? What's the game's average population these days? Thanks and really enjoying your videos :)
Thank you very much but I can't really recommend PWI to new players, unless you have loads of money to spend or insane amounts of time. If you would already have a bit of gear and ressources then I'd say, yeah, come back, but like this it will only be a chore. IF you want to play a very enjoyable game then I can recommend The Elder Scrolls Online. Best story, awesome graphics, crisp gameplay. PWI is only for geared ppl to PvP a little these days I guess. If you wanna be part of that you need to spend at least 5k $ which isn't worth it, trust me!
Problems of Barb is that there are too many good skills that its hard to find place for Alacrity and Devour... the 30/40k pass all from VT... if you wont use Arma you have other solutions with Stomp or any skills on VT (better something that not misses).
This one, oddly enough since I ended up not fighting the classes this setup is intended for, is my LA-Killer Setup. Red Glyph on Flesh Ream is indeed the hardest hitting skill with low chi cost and is also a 100% accuracy skill. The latter is also the reason why I chose the glyph for Devour. That is basically the "Zero-RNG" Setup. Normally I would also use a red glyph on Swing (or argent vs nasty, running arcanes, this range + purify is golden vs some caster such as venomancer) since it completely takes out rng. Also, I agree with Sigewulf, arma is insanely powerful..but at least for 1v1 just way too predictable and always yields a certain risk. My barb is not full damage built..however, if I 1v1 classes without a physical defense selfbuff...going from Swing into Devour into Flesh ream + VT and Mire...damn, if that zerkcrits and the enemy is not too insanely ahead in gears...welp, this 3 second combo will get them killed. If I had better damage then you would even lose the "Zerk-RNG" factor..if just a crit due to violent Triumph would be enough to either OS or at least charmbypass. I came up with that idea because I hate RNG, especially on a barb...sadly, since I didnt use red/argent on swing..you can see the insane amount of paralyze fails on kitashi. Being able to play in a way that requires no chance to kill is insanely OP for Barbs. You will know exactly when the fight is going to end..and you can put stupid amounts of pressure on the enemy. If they know they could die instantly..welp, they are basically forced to use genie on every paralyze or Occult ice you hit cause chances are they would die if they don't and due to the server issues we have..waiting til the last moment does not guarantee your safety. Roar, try this setup in 1v1, since your damage is way ahead of mine, doesnt even matter if the classes have a pdef buff, you most likely are able to kill them with that anyways. What makes it so crazy OP is that you dont even need your genie for offense anymore, a level 8 or even just level 5 red glyph on Swing is enough pressure on people, no genie can outlast several killing attempts in such a short time. You can use your genie for pure defense...and if you have a specific genie for a specific class..combined with Invoke, Blood Rush (argent) and cornered beast...AND THAT CRAZY DAMAGE. Welp, there is like absolutely no chance vs a Barb if he does that imho. Full damage barb required ofc. That point is exactly where barbs are the most broken. Other classes can be tanky and true, deity barbs are not THAT tanky compared to def ones..but if def ones want to kill something..they need their genie, they need their occult and stuff...if you can purely use it for defense..that makes up for the loss in def by far. Look at the genie vs ImTheOne for example..that one completely disarms him. One counter for every, single move he could use vs me :D
Yeah I understand. I was wondering because no one barb use Tiger set. But I see all others in the video use same glyph set, so I think I used that to remove the 15% advantage/disadvantage on damage and make it more fair.
Ya set bonus ofc depends, tho you are free in that regard. I usually don't use cornered faith in 1v1, cause smart ppl will kite it out completely anyways and I don't like to chase after people. That means that you can basically make any glyph bonus with slight variations but with the key skills intact (with this specific built).
19:18 Luck or skill... hmm big question. Use psy def ring and nec vs veno, well i don't think u forgot to switch it i think u didn't wonna switch it. I wish to see ur barb with r9 4rd wep,full daity,NP set, and other end game items +12. Then u can do 1 v 3 video's xDDDD
Exactly! I did not wanna switch it. If the damage is already so close cut..I do not ever wanna risk having to switch and lose precious seconds and damage. I rather pay attention and try to avoid damage in other ways. Lots of barbs have trouble beating certain classes because of switching to the def weap as well and then being unable to switch back when they have the chance to strike. Like vs sins and DBs, I never switch from r9 to r8 and I have no issue with those at all. Upgrading my barb..well I guess that most likely will never happen. Barb is way too strong atm and that would be no challange xD
Hmm... you really have to spend a bit more time attacking the pet when its close to you, and with r9rr wep in. Even if you don't kill it, you'll at least temporarily stop the onslaught of cc, since the veno will have to take some time to heal the pet. Devour + ream would be my go-to if you have the chi, otherwise just reams. The dot of reams will stack up and the veno will need to heal several times to save pet. Also, when you do get to kill veno pet, and the veno stops moving for about 4 seconds, you need to do a slam as soon as the little pet icon appears by veno's target at bottom right. The pet spawns with low hp and no buffs---which means its player dmg-reduction buff isn't in yet. A single slam will kill it. If the slam isn't enough, manually click that little pet icon and ream it instead. If you don't get pet down you are fighting a losing battle. Perhaps even all those times you occult her and go for a kill.. consider instead quickly taking down the veno pet, then seeing if you can get back to veno.
I know, I always try to insta kill the pet right after it's spawned (as can be seen in fights vs all my other classes and kita), however, my Barb simply does not have enough damage. There have even been times in which my Barb fails to kill the pet instantly even when slam hits. The pet is just too tanky for my barb. Now if my Barb was up-to date (+30 att lvl, +20k Base damage), welp the pet would be a way lesser issue and yeah, if I could keep the pet down 24/4 like I can do on the sin and archer, then it would be easy as pie, cause without the pets additional CC, a barb doesnt die. Tho, vs kitashi, since she is not a random noob veno, I would literally curbstomp any other veno in the game with my barb, especially demon ones, I can't use chi for the pet. My chi is already low and I never know when there is a great time to use arma and such. Still, the biggest issue in those fights (as I have said in the discription as well) was my lack of a decent glyph for Mighty Swing. Either the ranged one or the 100% chance ones would've helped me drastically cause then I would have save time frames to try to kill either the veno or the pet. Just didnt have one :D The glyph setup I used here in general is not optimal for venos. It is designed to make quick work of LA/Selfbuff-less/Squishy caster instantly. Veno is the only caster that is hard for that simply because of perma chi drain, purge, high movement speed and the pet ofc..especially one with tidal, untergetable, pdef and HP buff with a perfect Def Level link :D
He tries to focus my pet plenty, but it's mostly pointless since I always save bewitch for when my pet dies + fortify to block occult. And healing it a few times is no big deal because even I have cds so I don't mind using heal twice, just to pet stun him during heal and be back on my feet again. His best shot is just killing me with pet alive since barb cc doesn't really allow me to use pet anyway.
Joe, PW Brazil is creating a new server, so everyone without any gold or items and I was thinking in start again in this new server because i was away from the game for 2 years and want to get new challenges and start in a server that isn't disbalanced for new players. So i think this is going to be a good oportunity. I really love WB and for sure will my main class, but don't know for sure what build is going to be good (full con, full str, hybrid str/con) and don't know about god/evil too. Would love if you could give me some tips to start with wb in a new server. I really like wb full str, but in a new server full con looks really good too. Really don't how the story of god/evil for wb is going, I remember that god was better for full con and evil for full str, don't how it's right now, because when I was leaving, some wb full str were becoming god too haha so please, help And in your opinion, what class would be good to start in our group?? Some friends that also know the game are going to start with me and one is going to be EP, another assassin and the other one don't really know what he's going to play and is looking for someone who helps the group and can farm too.
If you wanna play barb on a server that requires farming, I'd still say go partially APS-Gear for TT and stuff cause that is where it's gonna be on a clean-slate server, unless you plan on going for r9 gear instantly, then DPH would be fine, too. That is if you plan on solo'ing things. If you wanna play in a group, a full vit barb to tank anything surely is nice as well. However, PvE is not really a challenge anymore so I do not recomment Vit built anymore for anything, except if you plan on tanking in TW and PvP. Full STR allows you to tank better and kill stuff faster. A perfect addition to the group you are starting with would be either a Duskblade or a Venomancer. Duskblades also increase your damage and provide debuffs, same as venomancer. In terms of Pure PvE power, Duskblade is the absolute king.
Atk lvl sb looks fun in 1v1 (except vs sin and db ofc) I’m surprised so many DA converted. If your barb was atk lvl and used faith it would be gg for arcanes x.x
Eternity PWI well to be fair, my barb is half att lvl stones, ya sure, just odd gears and not perfect ones and I could gain at least 50% more damage..but at that point xD would be no fun anymore xD if a barb can 100% hide behind a genie for pure defense and nearly OS anything..damn xD
Imo attack barb is not a good way to go... true, you can kill anything with golden VT + golden Armageddon or Ancestral but also a Jade barb can do that. Since golden VT force you to play without an important anti-stun skill and you have to tank for more time than usual I think going def level full str is the way to go now. I see that, when I fight people with my same gears level or better (random in 3v3, nation war, pk, etc..) I have to waste my genie to try to stay alive and can't focus on attack or put pressure (a Devil sin for example can kill me throught Faith or Solid Shield...). Now I'm playing without golden VT and I use my Devil build with Stomp, keep my antistun and i use Raging Slap to tank damage. Except big pvp where I can hide and spam VT + Arma. Other side... attack level is more fun because you can kill without pass to golden VT.
YA, I am counting 4/8 parts. My helm, robe, neck and belt have att lvl +2 stones now. @Roar: Ya, but it requires insanely geared people and crazy damage to trully pressure a barb in faith/Solid Shield. In 1v1 that is even not an issue at all cause you can focus your genie specifically to block anything an enemy could throw at you and in 3v3...it depends on your squad. If your mates are strong enough then no one will focus the barb first..that's insanely unreasonable. Ofc, if you are the only real threat in the party, we would focus you too and try to get you killed. Lets say you team up with a deity sin and deity db or Sb...damn, if we waste our time focusing you then the others will kill us. Same is basically true for mass pvp as well. It must be insanely imbalanced to begin with for people to be able to focus you that much. That is why I dont use mass pvp as a reference anymore. It's never fair nor balanced and can thus not be used to make assumptions xD On the other hand..if barbs with your damage go unchecked...all hell breaks lose and you can basically kill anything on your own xD I still think deity is the way to go. Sure, jaded barbs can kill stuff too with arma (especially if 80k-ish base damage) but arma is risky in its own..with that extra bit of damage you might kill or charmbypass even more people when you use it and dead people are always better, even if you would die right after arma as well.
My main problem is that I can't tank some class with same gears as me... Be a vit stone barb and fight a vit stone sin for example is much more easy than a NP Devil barb fight a NP Devil sin, that because Sin damage is way stronger than barb. Maybe I can kite but hard to put pressure to someone you can't tank. I did some 1v1 with my panda and it is much more easy than with my NP barb (even compared to same gears level). Mass-pvp all depend on positioning and timing... just check when you are protected, when your stuff is ready, wait a vortex and go for VT+Arma. In mass is not predictable... thats why my build is strong for that. For 3v3 i'm not in any OP squad, I had to face genie nerf for the first time last weekend and with golden VT if i remain alone, also 1v1 is very impossible on barb, because i have to waste my genie to survive and wait for apo to be ready, so next time I will not use golden VT for that. Going Jades + maybe some deity is better because you can tank enough to put pressure and still, you can kill with VT+Skill. Playing with purify 100% para + vt combo worth it but if you go jades you have much more chance to win a 1v1 (count that my barb in DA got 109 atk level and 38k max attack and if ZC with vt+arma i have chance to kill). Count also that I use a generic genie, not a specific one since i play nw and pk... and I don't play 1v1 (just happen to 1v1 when in pk or in nw). All end up with fun. Going jades will be the better build possible for any kind of pvp (from 1v1 to mass) but, personally, I hate playing around VT.
Ya, I know, but ITO had this buff on and I asked him, guess he was just too lazy to relog. I vastly prefer fights without any additional buffs xD they add more defense than damage and the longer my enemies survive the worse it is for me xD
goodness barb vs veno looks damn near impossible vs a veno like that.
There are specific setups possible to make it way easier as a barb vs a veno but then, fighting them would be pointless cause the barb would be unstoppale, especially on equal gears.
@@JoePWI what are those setups? And is there one to make it even? Lol idk how you did it man that fight what have made me need to go play league for a bit that shit was annoying lol.
When you are equally geared and lean toward max damage builts (full deity, attack on Chart, etc. ...) you can abuse the fact that you can basically oneshot a venomancer in human form with every, single skill you have. That allows you to use glyphs on mighty swing that do increase it's cooldown massively, but also give you 100% chance to paralyze. Especially the white glyph is very nice here because it also gives you quite a bit of range and also purifies you on use (20 sec CD tho). IF you then use trickery to proc the 2nd def charm with genie skills like Blade of Supreme heat (recommended since low cost) or Celestial Sword (more range but drains all your genie) you can then instantly chain violent Triumph (skill damage increase + 100% chance to crit on the next skill) and Bestial Onslaught or Ancestral Rage or even just Berserkers Wrath to insta-kill the veno if they are not quick enough on expel/AD and even if they are..since you have a 50 seconds lasting 100 Def level buff and 60 seconds of perma Faith...just try again. The genie of the veno will not be able to keep up at all.
That also works vs nearly every other class in the game except for HA targets (cause they are mostly too tanky) and can be considered extremely broken..cause all of those skills cant even miss. 100% hit-chance. So if you at the very least ZC on those 3 ranged skills, the target is 100% dead if genie isn't use aka most of the fights become trivial and the only thing to kinda make it take longer is the question if you will kill the target on the first, the second or the third try, depending on their genie management xD
@@JoePWI LMAO damn. So since I come from bm I know how I can fight them on Barb. Any tips for seeker? Was also thinking maybe sb for my next r9 too since it seems most all around magic class.
@@TheSukairah seeker are insanely OP and BMs will make short work of venos now too..that is if you have the genie they habe introduced which allows you to get 2 sparks every 30 seconds for just 50 energy..which completely negates a venos chi drain and you know what happens when your chi is full xD
Seeker could be somewhat harder..if you use a full counter genie tho..a veno will hardly kill you and if you manage to land a good SS combo you might eventually kill before getting killed xD
Jow, in your opinion, wich caster class is the strongest one rn? (I'm from a brazillian server, and want to make a new class based on PWI players opinions)
Lucas Jacone that depends on the sitatuation. In small scale PvP mystics and especially clerics are insanely OP cause its hard to kill them and they can either support like crazy, CC or deal damage themselves. In 1v1, venomancer and mystics are the strongest by far on average. Sbs are great vs HA-classes but very squishy, but also alot of fun to play. Personally, I love them all cept for psychics...useless class imho and pure RNG. My favorite to play and most fun caster is still the stormbringer, followed closly by the mystic. Overall most powerful is veno tho, but only if you master it completely.
TY Joe :D i think that i'll make/buy a stormbringer or a mystic (i don't like veno xD)
hey Joe, what you recommend for G17, Polehammer or Dual Axes
omg nice 1v1 80k is really OP but Kitashi is too OP veno 14k+ and sometimes 30+ is really good on veno
Manyak Haunted indeed!! Kita knows the way with them debuffs and all :D
Could you tell me what you mean by ''OP''? Because this damage is pretty normal for a veno on a barb.......
13k over shild is normal ? 30k crit is normal ? when is normal is ok and is nothing good
It is very normal for veno debuffs lol, I guess you never fought a veno that fully debuffs, I can hit a deity sin for maybe 70k fully debuffed with a crit. If you think my dmg is OP with just 64k mag atk and 118 atk levels cause I swap to g17 then imagine a veno with 80k mag atk, my dmg is nothing compared to that xD
basically 0 veno on Ti focus on 1v1 hard, most are demon with a focus on support/demon ironwood for sillyness in xnw/xtw/tw/3v3. Do have some recent going pure vit for crush vigor on top. Even if we had some, 1v1 on Ti are for the most part in-between faction members, until we get some loudmouth in world chat, and with charm cost going up and event gold codes never popping up, not everyone want to 1v1 constantly as bad as i see on Da xD, I have an alt veno that follow that trend on the server, it is just a tad too behind on gears for me to be comfortable with to play more then just random shenanigans or secondary xtw fight
Hi there, I use to be a small time player back in 2012ish, probably only hit like 40-50 character lvl max.. I would eventually like to get into pvp but was wondering if pve is a big thing too? I've started playing a fresh veno and only questing atm. I quite enjoyed playing pwi because it was the first game of it's kind that I introduced myself to. Also do you if there are many Australian players? What's the game's average population these days? Thanks and really enjoying your videos :)
Thank you very much but I can't really recommend PWI to new players, unless you have loads of money to spend or insane amounts of time. If you would already have a bit of gear and ressources then I'd say, yeah, come back, but like this it will only be a chore. IF you want to play a very enjoyable game then I can recommend The Elder Scrolls Online. Best story, awesome graphics, crisp gameplay. PWI is only for geared ppl to PvP a little these days I guess. If you wanna be part of that you need to spend at least 5k $ which isn't worth it, trust me!
Are you using glpyhs on Alacrity and Devour just to match Glyph Set?
Problems of Barb is that there are too many good skills that its hard to find place for Alacrity and Devour... the 30/40k pass all from VT... if you wont use Arma you have other solutions with Stomp or any skills on VT (better something that not misses).
This one, oddly enough since I ended up not fighting the classes this setup is intended for, is my LA-Killer Setup. Red Glyph on Flesh Ream is indeed the hardest hitting skill with low chi cost and is also a 100% accuracy skill. The latter is also the reason why I chose the glyph for Devour. That is basically the "Zero-RNG" Setup. Normally I would also use a red glyph on Swing (or argent vs nasty, running arcanes, this range + purify is golden vs some caster such as venomancer) since it completely takes out rng.
Also, I agree with Sigewulf, arma is insanely powerful..but at least for 1v1 just way too predictable and always yields a certain risk. My barb is not full damage built..however, if I 1v1 classes without a physical defense selfbuff...going from Swing into Devour into Flesh ream + VT and Mire...damn, if that zerkcrits and the enemy is not too insanely ahead in gears...welp, this 3 second combo will get them killed. If I had better damage then you would even lose the "Zerk-RNG" factor..if just a crit due to violent Triumph would be enough to either OS or at least charmbypass.
I came up with that idea because I hate RNG, especially on a barb...sadly, since I didnt use red/argent on swing..you can see the insane amount of paralyze fails on kitashi. Being able to play in a way that requires no chance to kill is insanely OP for Barbs. You will know exactly when the fight is going to end..and you can put stupid amounts of pressure on the enemy. If they know they could die instantly..welp, they are basically forced to use genie on every paralyze or Occult ice you hit cause chances are they would die if they don't and due to the server issues we have..waiting til the last moment does not guarantee your safety.
Roar, try this setup in 1v1, since your damage is way ahead of mine, doesnt even matter if the classes have a pdef buff, you most likely are able to kill them with that anyways. What makes it so crazy OP is that you dont even need your genie for offense anymore, a level 8 or even just level 5 red glyph on Swing is enough pressure on people, no genie can outlast several killing attempts in such a short time. You can use your genie for pure defense...and if you have a specific genie for a specific class..combined with Invoke, Blood Rush (argent) and cornered beast...AND THAT CRAZY DAMAGE. Welp, there is like absolutely no chance vs a Barb if he does that imho. Full damage barb required ofc. That point is exactly where barbs are the most broken. Other classes can be tanky and true, deity barbs are not THAT tanky compared to def ones..but if def ones want to kill something..they need their genie, they need their occult and stuff...if you can purely use it for defense..that makes up for the loss in def by far. Look at the genie vs ImTheOne for example..that one completely disarms him. One counter for every, single move he could use vs me :D
Yeah I understand. I was wondering because no one barb use Tiger set. But I see all others in the video use same glyph set, so I think I used that to remove the 15% advantage/disadvantage on damage and make it more fair.
Ya set bonus ofc depends, tho you are free in that regard. I usually don't use cornered faith in 1v1, cause smart ppl will kite it out completely anyways and I don't like to chase after people. That means that you can basically make any glyph bonus with slight variations but with the key skills intact (with this specific built).
19:18 Luck or skill... hmm big question. Use psy def ring and nec vs veno, well i don't think u forgot to switch it i think u didn't wonna switch it. I wish to see ur barb with r9 4rd wep,full daity,NP set, and other end game items +12. Then u can do 1 v 3 video's xDDDD
Exactly! I did not wanna switch it. If the damage is already so close cut..I do not ever wanna risk having to switch and lose precious seconds and damage. I rather pay attention and try to avoid damage in other ways. Lots of barbs have trouble beating certain classes because of switching to the def weap as well and then being unable to switch back when they have the chance to strike. Like vs sins and DBs, I never switch from r9 to r8 and I have no issue with those at all.
Upgrading my barb..well I guess that most likely will never happen. Barb is way too strong atm and that would be no challange xD
Hmm... you really have to spend a bit more time attacking the pet when its close to you, and with r9rr wep in. Even if you don't kill it, you'll at least temporarily stop the onslaught of cc, since the veno will have to take some time to heal the pet. Devour + ream would be my go-to if you have the chi, otherwise just reams. The dot of reams will stack up and the veno will need to heal several times to save pet. Also, when you do get to kill veno pet, and the veno stops moving for about 4 seconds, you need to do a slam as soon as the little pet icon appears by veno's target at bottom right. The pet spawns with low hp and no buffs---which means its player dmg-reduction buff isn't in yet. A single slam will kill it. If the slam isn't enough, manually click that little pet icon and ream it instead. If you don't get pet down you are fighting a losing battle. Perhaps even all those times you occult her and go for a kill.. consider instead quickly taking down the veno pet, then seeing if you can get back to veno.
I know, I always try to insta kill the pet right after it's spawned (as can be seen in fights vs all my other classes and kita), however, my Barb simply does not have enough damage. There have even been times in which my Barb fails to kill the pet instantly even when slam hits. The pet is just too tanky for my barb. Now if my Barb was up-to date (+30 att lvl, +20k Base damage), welp the pet would be a way lesser issue and yeah, if I could keep the pet down 24/4 like I can do on the sin and archer, then it would be easy as pie, cause without the pets additional CC, a barb doesnt die.
Tho, vs kitashi, since she is not a random noob veno, I would literally curbstomp any other veno in the game with my barb, especially demon ones, I can't use chi for the pet. My chi is already low and I never know when there is a great time to use arma and such. Still, the biggest issue in those fights (as I have said in the discription as well) was my lack of a decent glyph for Mighty Swing. Either the ranged one or the 100% chance ones would've helped me drastically cause then I would have save time frames to try to kill either the veno or the pet. Just didnt have one :D The glyph setup I used here in general is not optimal for venos. It is designed to make quick work of LA/Selfbuff-less/Squishy caster instantly. Veno is the only caster that is hard for that simply because of perma chi drain, purge, high movement speed and the pet ofc..especially one with tidal, untergetable, pdef and HP buff with a perfect Def Level link :D
He tries to focus my pet plenty, but it's mostly pointless since I always save bewitch for when my pet dies + fortify to block occult. And healing it a few times is no big deal because even I have cds so I don't mind using heal twice, just to pet stun him during heal and be back on my feet again. His best shot is just killing me with pet alive since barb cc doesn't really allow me to use pet anyway.
Joe, PW Brazil is creating a new server, so everyone without any gold or items and I was thinking in start again in this new server because i was away from the game for 2 years and want to get new challenges and start in a server that isn't disbalanced for new players. So i think this is going to be a good oportunity. I really love WB and for sure will my main class, but don't know for sure what build is going to be good (full con, full str, hybrid str/con) and don't know about god/evil too. Would love if you could give me some tips to start with wb in a new server. I really like wb full str, but in a new server full con looks really good too. Really don't how the story of god/evil for wb is going, I remember that god was better for full con and evil for full str, don't how it's right now, because when I was leaving, some wb full str were becoming god too haha so please, help
And in your opinion, what class would be good to start in our group?? Some friends that also know the game are going to start with me and one is going to be EP, another assassin and the other one don't really know what he's going to play and is looking for someone who helps the group and can farm too.
If you wanna play barb on a server that requires farming, I'd still say go partially APS-Gear for TT and stuff cause that is where it's gonna be on a clean-slate server, unless you plan on going for r9 gear instantly, then DPH would be fine, too. That is if you plan on solo'ing things. If you wanna play in a group, a full vit barb to tank anything surely is nice as well. However, PvE is not really a challenge anymore so I do not recomment Vit built anymore for anything, except if you plan on tanking in TW and PvP. Full STR allows you to tank better and kill stuff faster.
A perfect addition to the group you are starting with would be either a Duskblade or a Venomancer. Duskblades also increase your damage and provide debuffs, same as venomancer. In terms of Pure PvE power, Duskblade is the absolute king.
Atk lvl sb looks fun in 1v1 (except vs sin and db ofc) I’m surprised so many DA converted. If your barb was atk lvl and used faith it would be gg for arcanes x.x
Eternity PWI well to be fair, my barb is half att lvl stones, ya sure, just odd gears and not perfect ones and I could gain at least 50% more damage..but at that point xD would be no fun anymore xD if a barb can 100% hide behind a genie for pure defense and nearly OS anything..damn xD
Joe PWI Joe PWI basically every barb nowadays. Uh half atk Stones? Your mypers show 2 pieces out of 8 unless it’s not up to date.
Imo attack barb is not a good way to go... true, you can kill anything with golden VT + golden Armageddon or Ancestral but also a Jade barb can do that. Since golden VT force you to play without an important anti-stun skill and you have to tank for more time than usual I think going def level full str is the way to go now.
I see that, when I fight people with my same gears level or better (random in 3v3, nation war, pk, etc..) I have to waste my genie to try to stay alive and can't focus on attack or put pressure (a Devil sin for example can kill me throught Faith or Solid Shield...). Now I'm playing without golden VT and I use my Devil build with Stomp, keep my antistun and i use Raging Slap to tank damage. Except big pvp where I can hide and spam VT + Arma.
Other side... attack level is more fun because you can kill without pass to golden VT.
YA, I am counting 4/8 parts. My helm, robe, neck and belt have att lvl +2 stones now.
@Roar: Ya, but it requires insanely geared people and crazy damage to trully pressure a barb in faith/Solid Shield. In 1v1 that is even not an issue at all cause you can focus your genie specifically to block anything an enemy could throw at you and in 3v3...it depends on your squad. If your mates are strong enough then no one will focus the barb first..that's insanely unreasonable. Ofc, if you are the only real threat in the party, we would focus you too and try to get you killed. Lets say you team up with a deity sin and deity db or Sb...damn, if we waste our time focusing you then the others will kill us.
Same is basically true for mass pvp as well. It must be insanely imbalanced to begin with for people to be able to focus you that much. That is why I dont use mass pvp as a reference anymore. It's never fair nor balanced and can thus not be used to make assumptions xD On the other hand..if barbs with your damage go unchecked...all hell breaks lose and you can basically kill anything on your own xD
I still think deity is the way to go. Sure, jaded barbs can kill stuff too with arma (especially if 80k-ish base damage) but arma is risky in its own..with that extra bit of damage you might kill or charmbypass even more people when you use it and dead people are always better, even if you would die right after arma as well.
My main problem is that I can't tank some class with same gears as me... Be a vit stone barb and fight a vit stone sin for example is much more easy than a NP Devil barb fight a NP Devil sin, that because Sin damage is way stronger than barb. Maybe I can kite but hard to put pressure to someone you can't tank.
I did some 1v1 with my panda and it is much more easy than with my NP barb (even compared to same gears level).
Mass-pvp all depend on positioning and timing... just check when you are protected, when your stuff is ready, wait a vortex and go for VT+Arma. In mass is not predictable... thats why my build is strong for that.
For 3v3 i'm not in any OP squad, I had to face genie nerf for the first time last weekend and with golden VT if i remain alone, also 1v1 is very impossible on barb, because i have to waste my genie to survive and wait for apo to be ready, so next time I will not use golden VT for that.
Going Jades + maybe some deity is better because you can tank enough to put pressure and still, you can kill with VT+Skill.
Playing with purify 100% para + vt combo worth it but if you go jades you have much more chance to win a 1v1 (count that my barb in DA got 109 atk level and 38k max attack and if ZC with vt+arma i have chance to kill).
Count also that I use a generic genie, not a specific one since i play nw and pk... and I don't play 1v1 (just happen to 1v1 when in pk or in nw).
All end up with fun. Going jades will be the better build possible for any kind of pvp (from 1v1 to mass) but, personally, I hate playing around VT.
good fights, just one thing i don't like here is NW buff when you do 1v1 fights self buffed is how should be
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Ya, I know, but ITO had this buff on and I asked him, guess he was just too lazy to relog. I vastly prefer fights without any additional buffs xD they add more defense than damage and the longer my enemies survive the worse it is for me xD
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damn, you have another chart BS
You cleric
Noob barb :(