I'm a C32 in 1174. I have gambled over 40 times and succeeded only once. Many times I added 2 or 3 or even all orange and the lucky has been awful! Shocked to hear 25 gambles yielded a full set.
Hey Awesomepirate, that is very sad to hear, imagining all the materials invested. Sadly that's the point of 'gambling'. Your situation is the scenario were going full gold from the beginning would have been cheaper, but you don't know that from the beginning.
It is not interesting to add more than one orange material, to try your luck. You either put only one, or you put all of them and give up luck. Otherwise the costs are high.
Good work. As a deputy I always notice that people don't know that armaments can be forged so effectively. Did you notice that since the update it looks like you can merge golden 5 material into dark red 😱.
Thank you and yes i noticed that, they'll probably be required when you upgrade orange to red Artifacts or when you improve the skills from red artifacts, but i can't confirm yet.
At the beginning of the video. You had all 6 orange pieces. The next scene was the sword character . I noticed your guys sword was different amd he also kneeled with the sword in the ground.. how did you change that sword and does it matter the character we have set on that particular page??
Hi Lazel, hope you're fine! ;) I've started gambling orange gears, but it's not that clear to me which are the priorities... All my combat gears at level 25 were all in purple quality as I had been really lucky gambling blue to purple from lev. 15 to 20 and later from 20 to 25, so now I would have to put all purple + 1 orange... is that correct? Or should I put anyway all blue + my purple gear + 1 orange? For now I've tried 4 attempts on 4 different pieces starting from the Dragonscale belt, but I hadn't found even 1 orange piece (putting all purple pieces + my equipment + 1 orange piece) ... :( Here are the probabilities of recasting: - blue equipment + 5 blue pieces + 1 orange piece = 77% blue 13,8% purple 9,2% orange - purple equipment + 5 purple pieces + 1 orange piece = 87,3% purple 12,7% orange - purple equipment + 5 blue pieces + 1 orange piece = 56,3% blue 34,5% purple 9,2% orange I hadn't considered before that the probabilities of getting orange quality were identical by putting blue or purple quality but I wanted to avoid the quality drop so I hadn't even tested it before and I wasted a lot of materials... Another problem is: ok it's nice to have all fighting gear in orange quality, but most of the time I don't use it and I'm pretty always in farming/gathering/monster mode... So would you continue with my method to ensure at least the purple quality and then later to recast what I'm not getting in orange or after the first recast would you do also other important equipments in blue/purple (those for recruitment/farming gems/stamina/monsters' speed/etc...? I'd probably to the 2nd way because as soon as I get the purple quality on auxiliary equipments then I'll keep them up to C40 and after having gotten them I could concentrate on recasting the others with new materials, but I might be wrong so I prefer to ask you before doing stupid things (like I've probably have already done wasting a lot of purple materials)!
Greetings Endy, it depends on how high your material income is, if you can secure many attempts of gambling orange gear I’d put a all blue and one orange material and if you can’t I’d keep the purple quality. If i would start again I’d first begin with the farming gear as I’ve said in my dragonscale belt video.
Hi there, thanks for the great tips. Did you do all these tries continuously one after the other ? or was there a gap between(in terms of days i mean)?
Thanks for the guide. I'm new on WAO and my castle is C13. From the video what can i summaries is its better for me to forge blue equioment and started to forge purple or orange on level 25 above. Am i right?
Yeah, at least that’s how i would do it now, what’s important in my opinion is to gamble level 30 gear before forging higher gear, because the material costs are too high to gamble level 35+ orange gear
Sorry could you clarify a bit more? At C30 I'll gamble all blue material and one gold material. If my forge gives me a purple would you gamble with all purple and 1 gold or still stick with blue and 1 gold?
Hello, i tried to gamble with all blue and one orange, that worked out too. If you get a purple gear part out of it you have to know for yourself if you want to keep it purple, i would consider it depending on how many more tries of gambling you can do and if you need the gear part on a regular basis.
If you get purple gear would you use that in your setup and build up another piece of level 25 blue gear to gamble with instead of risking the level 30 purple gear?
It depends on how many gear parts you have. I would gamble from 25 to 30 with a chance of orange. If it turns out purple and you still have a lot of 25 gear i would continue to gamble the gear from 25 to 30. when you have only 30 gear left i would gamble all those to orange 30
@@NewHorizons-Lazel I don't have any extra gear. I currently have 4 blue and 2 orange and I'm gambling using this method. Eventually I'm going to get a purple and will have to figure out how to play it.
hi bro, will there be any change in chances of getting ornge gear, if we constantly cheack the forge( after starting the forge there is an option to check the forge) and continuously place the forge to that 12.7%
Hi, thank you for the video! It was really informative.. I followed your exavt directions in precision manner forging level 30 equipment, all blue and only one orange material with a blue equipment in the middle. I have done this 15 times do far and it has not produced a orange equipment. No luck at all!! How did you get a full fighting a gear (6 orange equipments) with only 25 tries. Any recommendations? Can you help!? I am better off not gambling or should I proceed?
Hey Kristoffer, that sounds really unlucky and sadly it is a gamble in the end were it all comes down to a chance of success. In my video i described how i did it, maybe you’ll have more success with purple materials, good luck forging your orange gear 👍🏼
@@NewHorizons-Lazel I am forging purple level 20 equipment, using a purple material and the rest of the blue ones. Is that recommended? Sometimes I was unsuccessful and tried again. Should I keep trying or better to stop with the equipment already purchased? I do this because, in the future, I just want to build orange or purple equipment ... That is, I don't want to bet blue + orange, but purple + orange.
You can do that, in my opinion it becomes interesting when you forge from level 25-30. For the short period of time from 20-30 you can profit from blue or purple gear.
Hey Gary, i never speed an Equipment, only if i can have it in time for an event. Speeds can be used way more efficient than in the forge in my opinion.
Hello Cory, no you don't have to start with purple or orange from the beginning. When you choose which Gear you want to forge you can add different qualities of materials and by that the chances of getting a blue, purple or orange Gear part out of the forging process will be shown. When you've watched the part of Calculations and Percentages in my Video you'll see it there.
Hi, I gamble every time but recently I got a question, I have an accessory lvl 25 orange with buff ( demage increase when attacking) what should happen if I will forge a belt lvl30 with this accessory? Always orange of course ( I’m interested more if I will lose the buff or not)
No! You have an orange gear part, never give those away in my opinion. You can still find some use for it even if you already have an orange accessory. Maybe forge it to a gear part where you still have to find a good enhancement.
@@NewHorizons-Lazel alright, I will use it on another part that I use for stamina recovery, my armour after belt will be all orange so I can use for another part instead keep purple
Hi Lazal, I just started building c25. I've been following the reddit gear guide (until now) and now have many blue level 20 gear gambled up from grey. The guide then says to gamble to purple at lvl 25 then gold at 30. It will probably take a while for me to get to c30 so do you think it's worth the materials saved to do your method but having a weaker castle until I get to c30?
Hey Keegan, if you know that it’s gonna take you a while to get to c30 it can be good to have purple 25 gear so you benefit from the better percentages, but remember that gamble tries for golden 30 gear will be more expensive in materials if you wanna keep your purple gear when the gamble fails. All options have their ups and downs
@@NewHorizons-Lazel Thanks for the fast reply! I saw a comment that was deleted here saying that if you get an enhancement that you don't like you can re-forge the gear part (from different gear slots; eg. weapon -> helmet) and get a refund on the obsidian. For blue lvl 25 that would cost 5 blue materials. Does this method work and do you think 25 obsidian is more valuable than 5 blue materials?
@@keeganmorris26 Obsidian Steel has an extremely high value and more than 5 blue materials in my opinion. I never had the scenario that you describe, but from what i read is that you want to use 25 Obsidian for an enhancement and if you don't like the enhancement you forge a different gear part to get the 25 obsidian back? That would end in spending 10 blue materials to forge the actual gearpart 25 again with no enhancement and then repeating the process until you find the enhancement you want.
@@NewHorizons-Lazel I believe that's what would happen according to the deleted comment, I will need to test it. Where did you get the 10 blue materials from? Doesn't it cost 5 blue materials to go from blue 25 to a different blue 25? Also when gambling from blue 25 to orange 30 and you get a purple 30, would you use all purple and one orange from there or keep using all blue and one orange? My intuition says use purple since you usually don't want to gamble down but just wanted to double check.
If you forge to a different gear part you will have to forge back to the original gear part that you wanted, that’s where i got the other 5 materials. If a gamble would turn out purple i‘d go with purple from there.
Hey Finn, not really, i want to get the best out of my castle so orange gear is my goal. If you gamble a 35 gold and it fails you have a purple 35 what then costs 20 purple materials to give it another golden try, too expensive in my opinion.
I'm level 22 and all mine are green and one blue it suck i have orange and purple but I see you gpt to have money I only been playing about 5 months or so I am just trying to understand i just had void the first time I did good a little over 3.4m but I trying cav from your video but wow so really I habe stop upgrading I could had been at 24 maybr by know I been upgrading all and tec so i was told wjat the point in having high level caslte but weak castle
The point of growing fast to c 30 is to be able to start collecting azurite and not be delayed as much after. All the days you're not c 30 and not collecting azurite will be days you'll waste waiting for azurite later.
In my opinion you grow fast when you plan your forgings far ahead, check the gear you want and compare it with the materials you have so you can find out what material to produce in the workshop for example
No, i used to do 5x purple and 1x orange, but on my last gear part i did 5x blue and 1x orange. Both turned out orange after a certain amount of tries.
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I agree, level 30 gear its the Gamble time for oranges! Not after, not before. 👍🍀
I look forward with all the tips on WAO 👍
I'm a C32 in 1174. I have gambled over 40 times and succeeded only once. Many times I added 2 or 3 or even all orange and the lucky has been awful! Shocked to hear 25 gambles yielded a full set.
Hey Awesomepirate, that is very sad to hear, imagining all the materials invested. Sadly that's the point of 'gambling'. Your situation is the scenario were going full gold from the beginning would have been cheaper, but you don't know that from the beginning.
It is not interesting to add more than one orange material, to try your luck.
You either put only one, or you put all of them and give up luck. Otherwise the costs are high.
Good work. As a deputy I always notice that people don't know that armaments can be forged so effectively.
Did you notice that since the update it looks like you can merge golden 5 material into dark red 😱.
Thank you and yes i noticed that, they'll probably be required when you upgrade orange to red Artifacts or when you improve the skills from red artifacts, but i can't confirm yet.
i love your videos so much that even though i dont play it i still love watching it
At the beginning of the video. You had all 6 orange pieces. The next scene was the sword character . I noticed your guys sword was different amd he also kneeled with the sword in the ground.. how did you change that sword and does it matter the character we have set on that particular page??
Going through more of this video, I see a lot of different things. Os it different on a phone ??
Good job man 👍
Hi Lazel,
hope you're fine! ;)
I've started gambling orange gears, but it's not that clear to me which are the priorities...
All my combat gears at level 25 were all in purple quality as I had been really lucky gambling blue to purple from lev. 15 to 20 and later from 20 to 25, so now I would have to put all purple + 1 orange... is that correct? Or should I put anyway all blue + my purple gear + 1 orange?
For now I've tried 4 attempts on 4 different pieces starting from the Dragonscale belt, but I hadn't found even 1 orange piece (putting all purple pieces + my equipment + 1 orange piece) ... :(
Here are the probabilities of recasting:
- blue equipment + 5 blue pieces + 1 orange piece = 77% blue 13,8% purple 9,2% orange
- purple equipment + 5 purple pieces + 1 orange piece = 87,3% purple 12,7% orange
- purple equipment + 5 blue pieces + 1 orange piece = 56,3% blue 34,5% purple 9,2% orange
I hadn't considered before that the probabilities of getting orange quality were identical by putting blue or purple quality but I wanted to avoid the quality drop so I hadn't even tested it before and I wasted a lot of materials...
Another problem is: ok it's nice to have all fighting gear in orange quality, but most of the time I don't use it and I'm pretty always in farming/gathering/monster mode... So would you continue with my method to ensure at least the purple quality and then later to recast what I'm not getting in orange or after the first recast would you do also other important equipments in blue/purple (those for recruitment/farming gems/stamina/monsters' speed/etc...? I'd probably to the 2nd way because as soon as I get the purple quality on auxiliary equipments then I'll keep them up to C40 and after having gotten them I could concentrate on recasting the others with new materials, but I might be wrong so I prefer to ask you before doing stupid things (like I've probably have already done wasting a lot of purple materials)!
Greetings Endy, it depends on how high your material income is, if you can secure many attempts of gambling orange gear I’d put a all blue and one orange material and if you can’t I’d keep the purple quality. If i would start again I’d first begin with the farming gear as I’ve said in my dragonscale belt video.
Good video. What to do with that blue lv30? Break it down or use it as base equipment for next gamble?!
Use it for the next gamble
Hi there, thanks for the great tips. Did you do all these tries continuously one after the other ? or was there a gap between(in terms of days i mean)?
Hey Abin, yes, there were gaps, the overall process of forging/gambling a golden level 30 set took like a year.
@@NewHorizons-Lazel Okay thanks .Just wanted to know if these delays have an effect on the RNG of the same gear.
Thanks for the guide. I'm new on WAO and my castle is C13. From the video what can i summaries is its better for me to forge blue equioment and started to forge purple or orange on level 25 above. Am i right?
Yeah, at least that’s how i would do it now, what’s important in my opinion is to gamble level 30 gear before forging higher gear, because the material costs are too high to gamble level 35+ orange gear
@@NewHorizons-Lazel thank you for the reply.
Sorry could you clarify a bit more? At C30 I'll gamble all blue material and one gold material. If my forge gives me a purple would you gamble with all purple and 1 gold or still stick with blue and 1 gold?
Hello, i tried to gamble with all blue and one orange, that worked out too. If you get a purple gear part out of it you have to know for yourself if you want to keep it purple, i would consider it depending on how many more tries of gambling you can do and if you need the gear part on a regular basis.
If you get purple gear would you use that in your setup and build up another piece of level 25 blue gear to gamble with instead of risking the level 30 purple gear?
It depends on how many gear parts you have. I would gamble from 25 to 30 with a chance of orange. If it turns out purple and you still have a lot of 25 gear i would continue to gamble the gear from 25 to 30. when you have only 30 gear left i would gamble all those to orange 30
@@NewHorizons-Lazel I don't have any extra gear. I currently have 4 blue and 2 orange and I'm gambling using this method. Eventually I'm going to get a purple and will have to figure out how to play it.
hi bro, will there be any change in chances of getting ornge gear, if we constantly cheack the forge( after starting the forge there is an option to check the forge) and continuously place the forge to that 12.7%
Hey, i‘ve heard many theories, but in the end it comes down to being a gamble. I simply start it, let it run and in the best case i get an orange gear
Hi, thank you for the video! It was really informative.. I followed your exavt directions in precision manner forging level 30 equipment, all blue and only one orange material with a blue equipment in the middle. I have done this 15 times do far and it has not produced a orange equipment. No luck at all!! How did you get a full fighting a gear (6 orange equipments) with only 25 tries. Any recommendations? Can you help!? I am better off not gambling or should I proceed?
Hey Kristoffer, that sounds really unlucky and sadly it is a gamble in the end were it all comes down to a chance of success. In my video i described how i did it, maybe you’ll have more success with purple materials, good luck forging your orange gear 👍🏼
@@NewHorizons-Lazel I appreciate the reply. Thank you
@@NewHorizons-Lazel I am forging purple level 20 equipment, using a purple material and the rest of the blue ones. Is that recommended?
Sometimes I was unsuccessful and tried again. Should I keep trying or better to stop with the equipment already purchased?
I do this because, in the future, I just want to build orange or purple equipment ... That is, I don't want to bet blue + orange, but purple + orange.
You can do that, in my opinion it becomes interesting when you forge from level 25-30. For the short period of time from 20-30 you can profit from blue or purple gear.
How do you stand on speeding the forge? Speed immediately with gems. Speed with normal speeds. Let it run and speed the last hour?
Hey Gary, i never speed an Equipment, only if i can have it in time for an event. Speeds can be used way more efficient than in the forge in my opinion.
Thank you 😊
I can't figure out how to them I gamble let me ask you this I have to start from start with pure or orange from start
Hello Cory, no you don't have to start with purple or orange from the beginning. When you choose which Gear you want to forge you can add different qualities of materials and by that the chances of getting a blue, purple or orange Gear part out of the forging process will be shown. When you've watched the part of Calculations and Percentages in my Video you'll see it there.
Hi, I gamble every time but recently I got a question, I have an accessory lvl 25 orange with buff ( demage increase when attacking) what should happen if I will forge a belt lvl30 with this accessory? Always orange of course ( I’m interested more if I will lose the buff or not)
You will lose the buff, you keep enhancements only if you stick to the same category of gear part.
@@NewHorizons-Lazel thank you for your answer, so my lvl25 is useless😂 find the right buff with obsidian is even harder than gamble sometimes
Should I disassemble the accessory?
No! You have an orange gear part, never give those away in my opinion. You can still find some use for it even if you already have an orange accessory. Maybe forge it to a gear part where you still have to find a good enhancement.
@@NewHorizons-Lazel alright, I will use it on another part that I use for stamina recovery, my armour after belt will be all orange so I can use for another part instead keep purple
Hi Lazal, I just started building c25. I've been following the reddit gear guide (until now) and now have many blue level 20 gear gambled up from grey. The guide then says to gamble to purple at lvl 25 then gold at 30. It will probably take a while for me to get to c30 so do you think it's worth the materials saved to do your method but having a weaker castle until I get to c30?
Hey Keegan, if you know that it’s gonna take you a while to get to c30 it can be good to have purple 25 gear so you benefit from the better percentages, but remember that gamble tries for golden 30 gear will be more expensive in materials if you wanna keep your purple gear when the gamble fails. All options have their ups and downs
@@NewHorizons-Lazel Thanks for the fast reply! I saw a comment that was deleted here saying that if you get an enhancement that you don't like you can re-forge the gear part (from different gear slots; eg. weapon -> helmet) and get a refund on the obsidian. For blue lvl 25 that would cost 5 blue materials. Does this method work and do you think 25 obsidian is more valuable than 5 blue materials?
@@keeganmorris26 Obsidian Steel has an extremely high value and more than 5 blue materials in my opinion. I never had the scenario that you describe, but from what i read is that you want to use 25 Obsidian for an enhancement and if you don't like the enhancement you forge a different gear part to get the 25 obsidian back? That would end in spending 10 blue materials to forge the actual gearpart 25 again with no enhancement and then repeating the process until you find the enhancement you want.
@@NewHorizons-Lazel I believe that's what would happen according to the deleted comment, I will need to test it. Where did you get the 10 blue materials from? Doesn't it cost 5 blue materials to go from blue 25 to a different blue 25?
Also when gambling from blue 25 to orange 30 and you get a purple 30, would you use all purple and one orange from there or keep using all blue and one orange? My intuition says use purple since you usually don't want to gamble down but just wanted to double check.
If you forge to a different gear part you will have to forge back to the original gear part that you wanted, that’s where i got the other 5 materials. If a gamble would turn out purple i‘d go with purple from there.
You can recommand to gamble on level 35 Orange? If you dont have All gear Orange on level 30?
Hey Finn, not really, i want to get the best out of my castle so orange gear is my goal. If you gamble a 35 gold and it fails you have a purple 35 what then costs 20 purple materials to give it another golden try, too expensive in my opinion.
@@NewHorizons-Lazel yes i See... but you need to wait maybe a long time, but i think it will pay of
I'm level 22 and all mine are green and one blue it suck i have orange and purple but I see you gpt to have money I only been playing about 5 months or so I am just trying to understand i just had void the first time I did good a little over 3.4m but I trying cav from your video but wow so really I habe stop upgrading I could had been at 24 maybr by know I been upgrading all and tec so i was told wjat the point in having high level caslte but weak castle
The point of growing fast to c 30 is to be able to start collecting azurite and not be delayed as much after. All the days you're not c 30 and not collecting azurite will be days you'll waste waiting for azurite later.
perfectly explained my friend!
Hello!
what do you understand how to grow quickly?
I am afraid to save many materials and be growing slowly.
In my opinion you grow fast when you plan your forgings far ahead, check the gear you want and compare it with the materials you have so you can find out what material to produce in the workshop for example
Hi, what did you do when forging failed
i worked with the failed gear part until i had enough materials for the next attempt of forging a golden part..
@@NewHorizons-Lazel thank you
Yess man, i have done it. In 2 try's i managed to forge gold gear thanks to you. Thank you very much
Congratulations 🎉
You dont believe it but i forged another gold gear. You are awsome man.
Do you always forge with Blue?
No, i used to do 5x purple and 1x orange, but on my last gear part i did 5x blue and 1x orange. Both turned out orange after a certain amount of tries.
Which realm from you are my friend
I'm from Kingdom 255
@@NewHorizons-Lazel I love your videos it is good to understand the game easily if someone subscribe you 👊🔥🔥
Thank you ☺️
I've tried 10 times no success
I'm currently at 20 fails in a row, it's still a gamble
@@NewHorizons-Lazel f that l just save up n do it the garintee way. I know trick to get the materials I need fast