Klipsch RP8000F review. Better than the Klipsch RP600M?
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
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My review of the Klipsch RP8000F speaker
I personally prefer it over the RP600M and am impressed with what budget speakers today can do.
The speaker is easy to drive and I had great success with
IOTAVX SA3+PA3 with external DAC
Yamaha WXA50 with external DAC
Exasound E28+Modwright LS100+Moon W5.3
REL T7i subwoofers.
If you want to experience the full range sound, you will need to pair with subwoofers. However, I would say for most people, it is good enough.
One thing I forgot to mention in the video is that these speakers don't disappear. You can localize the tweeter especially when something sharp plays. If enough people ask for the RF7 III, I will reach out to Klipsch, it would help if you can send them an email too. Don't forget to like and subscribe.
Please review the RF7 III. The 8000F and the RF7's were on my shortlist. In the end I went with their heritage line and got some Cornwalls. Definitely not a bright sounding speaker, but with amazing dynamics.
Yes, please review. I'm really looking into getting those.
@@Roo-n9j Nice, if you can help me send them an email too, it will help. Thanks!
@@crh4878 Thanks Carlton, if you can send them an email too, it will help me.
@@ThomasAndStereo Can I ask you how I go about this? I will do it.
Thomas,
You really, really helped me pick the right speakers for my setup. I watch a lot of audio review channels, and you are one of the best! It's obvious when you're excited about a speaker, and you are so good at articulately describing your experience so that I feel that I have just demoed them myself. I ended up buying the RP8000F towers, the 504c center, RP500 SA atmos speakers, a couple of Polk 265 RT in walls and an SVS PB-3000 subwoofer for a 5.1.2. I'm using the Denon X3700H and an Emotiva amp to help drive these bad boys. Eventually I will pump this thing up to a 7.1.4, but my only hurdle is that one of the surrounds will be in a wall with a gas fireplace below it. The sheetrock gets darn right hot, and I'm concerned that the heat will ruin the speakers. What do you think about putting an in wall speaker in a wall that has a gas fireplace in it?
"You can just Google the specs." That's when I liked and subscribed. Thank you.
You do great reviews. I appreciate that you focus on your impressions of the speakers' performance, and not the specs.
Thank you for making a direct comparison between these and the LSiM, as it was a subject that had crossed my mind. My LSiM 5.0 set up sounds terrific with a Denon x7200. But the Klipsch RP sound amazing in a demo room. With no way to pair them for a side-by-side, I rely on word of mouth. Your vids provide authentic, no frills assessments that have enough credibility for my peace of mind.
Thomas, congratulations on another entertaining review, particularly one that a wide range of people can relate to. I've owned both those since they first came out and concur with your experience with each, however, I usually listen to them in a surround setup, but have spent a lot of time pairing them with several amps in stereo application. What I conclude is that the RP series are fundamentally, sound reinforcement speakers, intended to deliver clean dynamics, i.e. fast transition in dB as one would appreciate in an action movie sound effects. When I have used them strictly in stereo, they lack frequency response in the mid band, particularly when played at moderate levels. When belting out sound, they tend to come into better balance through the frequency band (high to low). When playing live music recordings, they can shine nicely over more expensive gear, but they really come together when used in a full 7 or 5 channel setup. The Klipsch center brings out all the missing vocals from the towers or bookshelf types. Then you get true instrument separation with the singer in the middle as in a real live venue. I also own the previous model RF towers with the newest RF center. Although these components are a good bit better than the RP series, the same thing tends to be true. When paired with their center channel, absolutely glorious. Without, as you say, meh. It is simply that the 6.5" and 8" woofers have a significant dB drop off from about 800hz and up, so those speakers rely on the wave guide tweeter (i.e. horn) to pick up the slack. Problem is that those horns only dip down to about 2Khz, thus leaving a void in part of the vocal range. Some think the RP series is warm, but it only seems that way from lack of lower vocal range. The center channel corrects most of this shortcoming. Still, they are a lot of fun, especially for the budget pricing. Won't be using any of my RP gear to replace stereo listening of my Cornwall 3s any time soon though. Cheers Thomas!
Thanks Taz for the clarification. Man I wish I would have spoken to you before I made the review. If I ask for the RF7III, I wonder if I should also ask for the center...
@@ThomasAndStereo Yes, definitely ask for the center RF 64 III, they are great and pairs well with the RF 7 III's..
@@ThomasAndStereo yes, definitely try the center and place the towers as far apart as possible. Even in 3 channel mode, the experience is incredible.
@@CUDAbuster Thanks, I wonder if the 'hole' is the reason why it is so easy to localize the tweeter in the room...
I couldn’t decide between the 2 pairs, so....................I got both, love them!
I have the smaller ones here in this video with an Onkyo receiver, along with a Polk Audio 10 for the lows. And blown away at how good they sound. I started small, i see so many love/hate reviews on Klipsh speakers. I guess this is one of thoses brands its either you like them or you hate them. Overall, they sound good. They can be a little harsh on the high end, but toe them in a little bit helps with that.
Dear Thomas, thank you for the great content and presentation. I really enjoy watching your videos.
Went from the MA bronze 1 to the Klipsch RP-160M (I'm 15 so couldn't afford the RP600(they cost almost 900 USD here in Norway.) paired with a Hegel HD11 and NAD D3045. And to be honest, I totally agree that the RP line Klipsch's are really fun listening to. You're one of the reasons I decided to buy the RP-160M. They're not sharp at all (a lot of people complain about Klipsch speakers being sharp) They're incredibly loud, Still maintain their "fullness" and doesn't get tinny/or sharp when you turn them up. Yet to break them in so can't judge them, wish they went a little lower (even though I've got a SVS PB-1000). But their bass is quite impressive down to 40 Hz. Keep up your work man, really enjoy your content. Cheers from Norway :)
Thanks for the feedback.
I bet this system sounds killer.
Decided to go for the rp8000f after listening to kefs, bw, ca and all the regulars. By far the best choice.
Thanks Thomas for the review it really helped me to plan my home theater
Great channel and a great review! I'm happy I found you. I own the Klipsch RP-280F that came out before the RP800F and they are exactly what you said in the review. That's pretty impressive, you now got a new subscriber. Keep it up!
Welcome aboard!
Loved your review, thank you. I’m using Klipsch / REL for a 7.1.4 home theater and Naim/REL for music.
I respect you as a reviewer because you are not snobbish towards Polk Audio LSiM. Many audiophiles dismiss them regardless of price. But these speakers go toe to toe with many others. As an all rounder, and at the current price, it's impossible to beat. You get a lot of speaker for very little $$. And that is a value that you may not beat in a lifetime. Sure you can spend a lot more and get a better speaker but value wise,. this beats everything out there. I paid $1050 for my pair from Adorama, shipped. I will never part with my pair even though i have other more 'higher' end speakers and brands audiophiles would much rather pay attention too. I am keeping these till the drivers rot.
Thanks, and I can tell you the better frontend gear you give it, the better it will scale.
Your video quality is getting better and better Thomas, good job!
Thanks, I try!
he is one of best reviewer on the net, because he gets to point with short video
I really enjoy all of your videos. Have been watching all that I can.
Glad you like them!
I have my 8000 RF connected to Audio quest 14 gauge pure copper wire no bananas and Sydney's Rca connectors on a Bie wired fashion Awesome sound clarity and datails
RP800F vs RF7III
Would love to here your thoughts on the RF7III
Another great vid, Thanks Thomas
Thanks, perhaps I can reach out to Klipsch and ask them to send me the RF7 if there is enough interest from others in this comment section.
Can you drop Klispch an email? I will reach out to them too if enough people ask for it.
Comparing the 8000f vs the RF7iii vs the Polk lsim 707 would be a crazy good comparison
It’ll let you see how the klipsch sound improves within their line and how they compare to the Polk lsim which was in the same price bracket.
@perl man The Polk LSIM 707's are very good. But I think the RF 7 III's are absolutely astonishing!!! I'll be asking Klipsch to send Thomas a pair for review, meanwhile over the past months I've posted a few videos demonstrating the RF 7 III's performance. If you like, please check them out. Cheers.
ua-cam.com/video/M7_zMnd0p9I/v-deo.html
@perl man Agreed. I'd say it all depends on personal preferences and budget😏. But like you, I did a lot of research before settling on the RF 7III's.
If you click on the image on the top left it should take you to the channel where I have a few videos of the RF 7III's performing in my space. Enjoy.
Yes, I have had klipsch for years starting 1974... don't forget to stack them up. Then turn the volume up and she will join you dancing all night long!
Thanks for posting.
Hi Thomas! Greetings from New Zealand! Just ordered a pair of RP-8000f's a hour ago, after watching your video. Been considering it for a while, but your wife reaction, convinced me its the way to go! :) Crossing fingers they work well with my 12-watt tube amp!
Haha..but don't you guys pay crazy shipping charges at NZ? I was driving the klipsch with a 200w class D amp so I really hope the 12w tube amp can do it! Remember to give it a lot of time to break in.
Just got them! 98db they go super loud. Sounded horrible straight out the box, but everything started to gel after a couple of hours. Happy days!
@@scubalbany Nice, give it about 50 to 100 hours. (Well not playing at low volume) The top end will smoothen out and the bass will get tighter.
You are an entertaining reviewer, Thomas. I enjoy watching your reviews because I am entertained and I learn a lot from you.
So many great speakers under 2k right now, I just want all of them in my house, one for each day of the week lol 🤣
They drive nicely with an 'warmer' Denon AVR-X6200W .. they take a while to run in.... luv em
Been looking at this for some time. Just sold my 21 yr old PSB Stratus Silver Floorstanding and Klipsch pops in my mind everytime I go to London Drugs electronics department. Thanks for the review
I almost LIVE at London drugs! I am literally on a first name basis with staff!
I wanted to say they have bent over backwards for me with honoring expired sales pricing, most recently they honored the sale of the SPL100 sub at $599 vs $799 on 2 separate occasions. They also matched The Bricks pricing on a Klipsch R52C center channel for my wife!
SUCH GREAT SERVICE
Lastly, having seen the Klipsch RP504C on sale somewhere for $750 (reg $999) I made EVERY effort to have someone honor that and that wasn't happening... knowing that Visions sells select RP speakers I pushed & they agreed to sell it at $750+tax!!!
Long and short, KLIPSCH is fantastic, way out performs its price point and deals pop up often!!!
Last thing... when I excitedly arrived home with the RP260F'S (the predisessor to the RP6000) I wanted to hear them so bad that I just quickly hooked them to our center channel in our small theater on our main floor.
I was giddy like a kid seeing a new bike in the living room! Out of a large showroom and in a more easily filled room these BLEW my mind! Clear/Bright & PUNCHY!!!
AMAZINGLY FULL SOUND
GOOD LUCK
You are a very authentic reviewer. Most reviewers would just be saying Klipsch walks on water, but you point out the "brightness" which a lot of people won't like in a speaker. And your favourite speaker is Polk which is a favourite of the top reviewers I notice, although it is a bit of an obscure brand. And you *own* Polk speakers, not just review them for a couple of days.
The smile on your face says all we need to know. Try them with tube gear if you haven't already. My upgraded Klipsch Forte II with my Primaluna Dialogue Premium gear is outstanding. Makes me smile just like you. Thanks for the review as always
Yeah, I need to get myself some tube gears again. I sold everything and I regret it. Yup, you can just tell with my big smile :)
Thanks again Thomas. I I’ll be replacing some old JBL’s that have EV horns in them. With the Klipsh 8000 F’s was just waiting to see what your take on them was. As always you seem to have come up with the best and most definitive last words on the subject! I hope I have a good enough front end to do them justice in my McIntosh
Well if you have some old JBL horns, I don't think a 8000F will be an upgrade for you. For me, an upgrade is 2 levels up at least. These are still consider budget line.
Been waiting for this - thanks as always Thomas!
Hope it is not bad for your wallet :)
@@ThomasAndStereo Heh, I can always get a new wallet - not a problem. The wife however...:)
Thanks for the video review of one of my favorite brands Thomas.
It would be cool to hear some Klipsch on some $10K front end for sure!
I have never warmed to the Spun Copper Cerametallic™ Woofers since their inception, for my ears it killied the dynamic mid bass.
What would be cool to see you review is the KLIPSCHORN AK6...?
The other side of Klipsch is their pro line cinema speaker that are very cool.
Cambridge CXA81 with RP8000F sound so lound and clear! I really like my audio system now, and its sounds " bright " , i like it better then the really expensive audio that are to "correct" sounding..
careful with your hearing though, tinnitus is a real bitch
I passed up on the 600m again in favor of the crazy sale price on the
JBL studio 530, I actually wrote you another book comment but I deleted it 😆 didn't wanna bother you with all my rambling lmao. Thanks again the audio Sensei !
Don't delete! I always enjoy reading comments from you. The 530 got many rave reviews and definitely something to consider for the future.
@@ThomasAndStereo did you get to read the comment at all? even after i deleted it, was about 4 paragraphs long lol thank you Thomas
@@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 Yup, it was sent to my email so I did see it. Thanks and keep it there next time! Regarding the R2R Dac, everyone is waiting for it and I have mixed feelings about it, how to review it...
@@ThomasAndStereo I won't delete my comments anymore, I feel you on the mixed feelings when reviewing certain audio gear, theirs just so many pros vs cons its crazy , i'm going threw the same situation Thomas , My last video upload of the IOTAVX that i'm still working on.
THE MULTI-FI-STACK-ATTACK ! And at end of video, i will be doing a comparison, the STACK against The Pioneer Elite Sx-N30, And its very hard to compare , The Stack is more balanced and refined with better dynamics, which leans towards a neutral sound signature , but the Pioneer has that rich powerful sound like a budget Denon integrated 1k amp has , ehaaa both are priced very simular, but the Pioneer sounds amazing with KEF speakers ! And the IOTAVX sounds amazing with all my other speakers . And i'm not a Pioneer fan at all, but the SX-N30 makes Magic with smaller KEF 🔊 ! Its just about finding that synergy theirs no better or best, you and ZF are so correct when you all say that !!! 😆
Nice review Thomas, would of liked to see them hooked up to tube front end. I like your unique way of describing how equipment sounds.First review of 2020, Happy New Year & keep up the good work!
Thanks, happy new year. I need to get a tube integrated Amp again. I sold all mine.
Value-for-money today is off the charts. It's FAR better today than ever. Even within the last 5 years, everything has gotten much better for the money. Tracking this over the last 45 years, it wasn't always like this - at all. This can be said about a lot of things today.
Yup, so true.
Thank you for a great review Thomas, regards, Antony, Warrington...
Budget speakers nowadays aren't made in house but are built off-country to specifications with lower labor costs. Snobs might consider these to be more ephemeral than the in-house built ones.
RF7III next?? Great review. Thanks for the honesty
Thanks, if enough people want it, sure. Can you drop Klispch an email? I will reach out to them too if enough people ask for it.
I absolutely love my RP8000F! Glad you like them too. They really do make music fun and enjoyable to listen to! Without any of that old shouty/fatiguing Klipsch sound, that many still think of when they hear about Klipsch.
Ps My goal for getting new speakers was to find something smaller and more design friendly than my old ones, but ending up buying these that are even larger because they sound so well! Haha!
Haha...yeah I know what you mean. If only I had a bigger house...
My endgame tower speakers
I’d love to hear about your impressions of Danny Richie’s GR-Research mods for the Klipsch RP-600M speakers if you ever get a chance to hear them. Keep up the fine work!
Yeah, me too! I was drooling when I saw that video!
Can someone out there PLEASE send Thomas a pair of GR-Research-modded RP-600M’s to review? 😊
I've listen to Danny Richie on GR research on the RP 8000f's and I'm confused here's why.
Danny stated the Rp 8000f has a big hole in the middle, tweeter and woofers don't crossover correctly.
But Audioholics Gene D. had his team do the measurements and stated they were awesome. So I'm not sure who to believe, but going on my Sales experience 26yrs. Danny does sell kits, he does state some truth about price pts speaker companies want to hit a exact price pt on each speaker. So cutting costs is the way to get there.
3:35 This is the exact setup I have in my living room now (WXA-50 and RP600M). I decided to get the WXA-50 instead of something bigger because for the price, it measured really well on this website called Audio Science Review. I really like the sound and how flexible it is. I even tried it with less efficient KEF Q150 that I bought for my office and they sounded, to my surprise, even better (based on my taste/preferences).
yup, I mentioned about that audioscience website in the Zu video. Check it out.
“I see my wife going, Thomas, what the hell you doing?” Awesome
That might be a good Thing
"fun" is a word you hear across the board from reviewers about Klipsch speakers.
Yeah, I never understood that until I have a pair of Klipsch at my place.
Thomas & Stereo I have owned Reference 3 A, B&W and Devore speakers. I am seriously thinking about buying a pair of Klipsch (the price is right!), but they seem to have a lot of cheap parts on them (like the steel binding posts), so Im checking with all my dealers now to see if they know anyone who can upgrade the 600ms with new binding posts (WBT) and crossovers and internal wire. (Dueland)
@@estebannemo1957 Well, they have to to reach a certain price point. There are 2 ways to look at it. For me, I find it amazing that they can deliver such an amazing sound with cheap components. Anyone can build a fancy speaker / system when money is no object. We can always improve on something but there is a reason why a speaker is at a certain price point. Usually, from what I gathered, to run a successful business, the cost of the speaker is about 15% of the selling price else the company will go out of business. Why? If you ever ran a business, you will understand all the hidden cost behind. Now, if you want something of more value, then you will have to look at companies that sell direct to customers perhaps. Here is a link to a comment from a manufacturer that will explain it better. A very good read.
www.avsforum.com/forum/89-speakers/1348949-philharmonic-audio-dennis-murphy-279.html#post57933376
@@estebannemo1957 Check out this video series on Ron's channel about upgrading the 600ms: ua-cam.com/video/5ifiz6HrFd0/v-deo.html
@@Simon-dn9kv Yup, was drooling and would love to hear it.
Hey great review. I was thinking to have the R8000F with RP600M as surrounds as bookshelf speakers can be used as surround. Do you think its a good setup or would you recommend some other surround speakers, if so which one? Also, would you say if I get a good receiver it should give decent bass (with the built in woofers in R8000F) or subwoofer is necessary?
I have the klipsch rp-280fa I only bought them because I got a good price on them... I was always a def tech guy.. bp20s bp2000 studio monitors 450s and I have to say I really really like the klipsch!!!
My gf loves the Pink/Nate duet. I have heard it 4 times in the last month. I have it going through 2 canton le290/2 klipsch rp160m/svspb12/klipsch sw112 and a onkyo nr709/sr603 zone2. The vocals are top notch.
I have both, the 8000's are awesome! VERY picky on placement and amplification, and correct they scale really well. I improved Base definition by leaning foam wall treatment at a 45deg angle against the speakers rear port.
Hola, valen la pena comprar los RP600M?
Ahhh I am so excited you got these speakers ☺️ thanks for a solid review man. Always top quality. I have a Yamaha receiver and was blown away at how well Klipsch and Yamaha pair. I'd be very curious what you think of the heritage line
Yeah, maybe I will reach out to them eventually for other lines.
@@ThomasAndStereo I hope they send you them man. I'm a part of a Klipsch group on Facebook and from what I hear the rf7s and the Cornwalls are two incredible sounding speakers
I've had both the 8000f and 600m as well. I noticed the same thing about the 8000f not disappearing into the room as much as I would've liked. The 600m disappeared much more. I was very happy with the 8000f except for that part, I'm having to decide on what's more important to me between the disappearance of the 600m and the mids/bass of the 8000f.
Hi Richel H are you saying that the 600m disappeared when being played ? And how wide is their sweet spot. Thanks
@@hughd7636 Hey Hugh, yes all the music played through the 600m imaged better, at no time can I tell the music is coming from a speaker, it's all coming from the background/air. I could move all around the room and maintain that so it has very big sweet spot. Where as with the 8000f, unless I was sitting dead center I could notice much more the music was coming from the left/right speaker.
I'm between these two. My main problem is the room. It's big but it's an apartment. I'll be listening to mid level volume music. The 8000 looks huge. Wich is better at low volume? the 8000 or the 600m plus a subwoofer?
Good review Thomas.
Thanks Thomas, for another great review! Really enjoy hearing your stories. You probably should try getting more sleep rather than staying up late listening to all of your gear though 😴
Haha...yeah, I need sleep.
Hi Thomas i got myself a kanta n2 and yes it sounded much brighter than my current Kef R700 which i like it been burning it throughout the weekends
It will eventually tone down the brightness but it will still be way more than the R700. Congrats.
Thank you Thomas for the review.
I will buy Klipsch set of speakers in a month or two.
8000F
504C
502S
SPL 150
I bought Marantz SR7013 already.
Can't wait to set all up.
Nice!
Another great time listening to your thoughts and stories Thomas! Props on step-in up the video quality and shots. I really enjoyed the one big shot of the front setup panning down.. good stuff man.
I have been going back and forth on this same question all year debating between the RP600M due to all the reviews and from some short listening sessions but in the back of my mind I always wondered if bigger would mean better.
I ultimately got lucky enough to hear the 8000F and was blown away but also missed that instrument separation and detail of the RP600M just like you did. So what to do? I purchased the RP 4000F! It seems to be the forgotten child of the lineup because I bought them for an absolute steal brand new, less than the RP600Ms!
I am hoping it will l split the difference and give me that just right Goldilocks experience. I have to admit I am worried that the small drivers may hold it back but the small cabinet for a floor stander really intrigued me and it goes deeper than the RP600M, with maybe even more control due to the small drivers? Thats the hope anyway still need to set up this week hopefully I'll let you know! Keep up the great work it doesn't go unnoticed. Glad you are sticking with it!
Yes, please let me know and appreciate the well-written comment.
Excellent review Thomas. I have also been really impressed with the latest offerings from Klipsch. They really have found the "sweet spot" for the average audiophile who doesn't have money to burn. There needs to be a new metric for all of these above-average, entry level pieces of audio equipment coming out. We'll call it the P.A.W. (Punching Above its Weight) score. Not sure how the math should work on that, but I'm sure we could get plenty of suggestions. Maybe like a ratio of "expections" from 1 - 10 over "actual enjoyment level" 1 - 10.
Anyway, take care and thanks for another outstanding review.
Haha...nice, I like P.A.W!
Great review! Thank you very much. Could you please do a video on how to soundtreat a room? I would like to know how to treat my room. I know about basstraps, diffusors, acoustic panels and all that good stuff but I really can’t find any information on how to place them/install them/how many I need for a room. I tend to go overkill most of the times so I really need some guidance in how many basstraps/diffusors/acoustic panels I need for any given room, I know everyone is different and what works for someone doesn’t work for another but I would like some rules of thumb or just some guidance… I hope you can make a video on this 🙏🏼❤️
ua-cam.com/video/lJyaXdc6RX0/v-deo.html
@@ThomasAndStereo thank you!
Just what I was thinking,, come on Thomas, treat us, , no pun int,,
Regards Antony,, Warrington...
Hi Thomas. Thank you for that video!
I did By-Amp them. Big different then, better and stronger. But i miss really the middles.
My setup: Yamaha RX-A 3080 - Denon POA 2800 - Setup 9.1. Subwoofer is a Boston Accoustic SW10.
My own made 3-Way-Speaker have more "clearance".
BTW, by unboxing --> open top and bottom, so you can push it out of the box. ;o)
By from Roly - switzerland.
I also feel that my RB81ii are missing mid's. I purchased a center speaker - rp504c and now I can hear mids finally. Maybe a smaller woofer is better in this regard?
I tried the Klipsch Rp280s without Bi wiring, i didn't like the sound as much as when i did Bi wired them. Separated the instruments, then recently Bi Amped them. Crossovered at 80hrz sent bass to sub, 300watts just feeds the highs n mids. Like it way more now, but also made some dyi wires ofc 12 awg x 3.
Amazing sound to me. Enjoy.
"fun" seems to be a universal modifier when talking about Klipsch. I know Guttenberg loves them! I'm thinking about a pair of the 600Ms for my 2nd system but will need to get them modded to take care of resonance and get better capacitors, etc.
I like smaller towers and 2 subs for the reason why we explained they sound more open instrument wise
A conclusion would be easy to reach that says the 280f has not good or bad bass definition or that the bass is hummy (box resonance). On the speaker's own it probably does have bass issues but if you used ypao room correction, it will fix that bass right up on the 280f. The bass is clean and powerful in my system with the 280f.
I listen to rock. I had sounds systems that cost me from 10k to 50k. Until one day I sold everything and got some kliptch and marantz amp. The sound was much better and the cost much lower than all my ex expensive systems.
How can this be even possibile? Either you used to throw away money in bad gear or...?
@@daftpaolo I sold all the rest for a crazy price. Lol. I guess metal and rock does not go well with high costly speakers and amp. Was no dynamic and bass.
@@pauloalexandre-dd4nl got it. These Klipsch seem like they’re perfect for that
Without a doubt the 280F are way better than the 600M at least in big rooms. The 600M is good for small rooms and close quarters. I liked them 5 foot away but I didn't like them much from 12 feet away. But the 280F have authority, dynamics and bass punch the 600M can't touch.
Thank you for the comparison. I currently have a pair of RP-4000F which I love. Would the RP-600M be upgrade at all? Already have a subwoofer.
Thank you for another wonderful video
I for one appreciate long reviews and videos in general.
Thanks Carlos.
Cool, I just bought a pair of the Open box RP-160M for $336 to play around with ... I haven't heard Klipsch speakers in almost 20 years !
I wonder if they have the old or new klipsch sound. Give it time to break in.
@@ThomasAndStereo Apparently they are the "newer" sound more laid back, almost identical to the newer RP600M minus the vented tweeter..
Thomas are you still rocking these giants ? If not where are you sending us for an upgrade ?
Hello Thomas, just to share a recent experience. I have Klipsch RP400m . (Previously had 600m and 8000F)
I also have Q Acoustics Concept 300. A few days ago, I received my Choco sound Emei. The concepts sounded ok with it. I switched to my Heco Aurora 200 , and immediately my wife whose don't give a f*ck about my tests, says "Those sounds better". ( I was also instantly thinking the same).
Later that day, and after listen a little more to the Auroras, ( to make sure it was only that one song) i came to the conclusion, that yes, Auroras sounded better to my ears. ( Not in micro detail, bottom end etc. Just not ashamed by any means in comparison)
Then i connect the RP400m.... Since the first note, I was perplexed... "No way"... I think i finally met synergy, because otherwise i cant explain what im hearing. Thing is, all you said in your video, is true. The RP line, is fun in a very special way, and also got a warning from my wife for being carried away with loudness and fun. Ideed its crazy how good the modern affordable speakers sound today.
Nice! Thanks for sharing. Yup, it's incredible what affordable speakers can do with a good amplifier.
Can you compare it with rf 7 iii. I want to see if in its own class and worth 1700k a piece
Wow!
This guy is like the Vincent Teoh for audio systems!
lol...must be the glasses :)
id104335409 lol
Hey Thomas!! I am going to ATMOS here soon..I’ve been WANTING the 8000 , but realize that the 8026s ARE THAT SAME SOEAKER with just the ATMOS topper, SO:
Since there are NO PLACES TO LISTEN anymore, I’m counting on “SOUND” 😂 ADVICE from you on this, as I have a pair of 20 yr. old KLF10s that STILL HOLD THEIT OWN!! I’d like your opinion as to which Klipsch WILL SOUND EVEN BETTER than my 10’s, as NOW I’m even considering the 7-IIIs too, as they’re a 10” woofer, like mine! Will the 8000 PLAY & SOUND BETTER than my KLFs? Do you think the 8026 is a better deal (as I DO want to go full on ATMOS!) than the 8000s OR the 7-IIIs?
I need your help, brother!
Thanks in advance and I sure enjoy your videos!!
Al
After seeing this video I ordered Rp8000F ..thanks
How are they?
Hi my friend. I have the RP8000F pair and RP-400. To the rear sound for 7.1 I need tu buy a new pair. I'll get the RP-600. Than you very much!
Thanks Thomas I got the RP 8000F last week... I felt good ordering from Amazon with your review. I love them so far.... you mention the break in period ... how long do you think that is. I really appreciate your fun and informative videos. Jerry. OH it's on an 80 watt NAD.
Great you are enjoying them. I would say at least 30 hours for it to smooth a bit and ideally 100 hours.
It's very easy to change the "forwardness" and "brightness" of most any Klipsch speaker be changing the "tip-in" of them. VERY small changes in tip-in angle can make a dramatic difference.
Yup, very interesting how they change with positioning.
Thanks heaps for the detailed review Thomas!! Which sound did you prefer more between the IOTAVX stack or Yamaha WXA50 with the Klipsch's?
I like it with the WXA50 more BUT with an external DAC.
I never, ever compare a bookshelf to a floorstander counterpart for several reasons.
1) Different cost
2) The floorstander could be like the bookshelf with extended bass and dynamics or
3) The floorstander could have goofed the implementation and introduce flaws
4) Two different applications.
Ideally, the floorstander is (2) more of everything good than the bookshelf is. But I have rarely seen a floorstander that performs as well as a well set up bookshelf and a sub. Essentially, the NHT and JBL l7 towers are a bookshelf mated to a built-in sub and well engineered/integrated. But more often than not...a tower version cuts too many corners to be a successful improvement. (Ie Bloated bass)
FWIW: I appreciate Klipsch for certain strengths. I have the rp600M and a sub in one of my systems. Klipsch's titanium tweeter and crossover are inferior to a number of products out there. They lack linearity, control and dimension.
Yep agree with that, spec the active bookshelf ones. I owned the RF7 and replaced them with Active bookshelf 3 ways - and they are wayyyy better in every category. More precise, lower bass, better detailed imaging, they performes perfect in low & loud volumes - its all about the Effort in Speaker Design & Planning and not the size. Agree, most of the times a Bookshelf with/without Sub is the better solution than a big Tower. And yea. you get a lot for your money with klipsch but there are also better solutions on the market
@@vtkz the Klipsch RP8000 towers have a HUGE dip in response (-10db) between the midrange and treble. The RP600M bookshelf doesn't. There is no excuse for that other than cost-cutting / bad engineering on the 8000.
I was planning to buy 8000 for fronts, 6000 for rears, 504 for center, and some vented SVS or Arendal sub. The room is pretty small (~20 sq.m.) and music/movies 70/30.
But now we got a damn war here. So, I'm not sure I will reach financially that setup.
How do You think, maybe I should consider RP-600m for fronts and rears, 504 for center and 2 sealed subs instead? Or it's better to stick to original setup still (just, probably, to substitute rears for RP-600m instead of RP-6000)?
Oh boy, another Klipsch speaker review.
But another Klipsch video by Thomas and stereo.....
Thomas great video as always.
Thanks Felix
Thomas & Stereo ur welcome buddy.
Hello Thomas, thanks for the excellent review.
Am considering these speakers to go with my Marantz model 30 amplifier. Buying them online, hence cannot audition them before buying.
Would it be a good match for this amp? My genre of music is Classic rock, jazz, blues....
Thanks in advance.
I personally like it but keep in mind it does have a V curve so the positive is it is very lively and fun, the downside is not all instruments in the presentation will have the same presence. I have not heard the Model 30 so I don't know its sound signature.
Your reviews are awesome Thomas. I have something for you to experiment, just try music with surround - its a different world - if you have not tried them already? And post that You could use RP600M as your surround left and right :) - Let me know what you think?
Nice review Thomas! I have a hard time imagining you rocking Pink in the middle of the night lol
Me too.lol.
Hi there,
I’m looking at purchasing these to go with SPL-150. Would this be overkill bass wise? Should I just stick to 6000f instead since my bass is being taken care of the subwoofer? Horns are identical to both models so just missing out on bass being produced by 8” woofers. Thanks.
Did you have a chance to pair them with the Zen triode I was curious you didn't name the amp that you felt was unsuccessful
I agree about getting the front end as good as possible. As long as the speaker has a solid build and doesn’t roll off the top end too much, it will most likely sound very good with a high-end front end. I’m thinking about putting my Sopra 2’s up against a pair of the new Wharfdale evo 4.2 or 4.4
What!! Really, please let me know how they compare! Yeah, front end is so important that I find people should really know about it.
I have to wait for the dust to settle after I just got a new amp, preamp, dac and I have an innuos zenith III streamer on its way. The insight in your reviews are great. Even though I have no interest in Klipsch, I still find it interesting to see what you have to say about them.
Here’s my latest, on my 4th preamp in the last 3 months. ua-cam.com/video/ryUD0AF0l_M/v-deo.html
I've got two R-28F Klipsch towers and 2 12SW Klipsch subs in my smallish/medium theater room. I listen to these in 2.2 for music and I could not imagine how anything could top this modest little setup! Even driven by a flaky Onkyo TXNR757 home theater reciever, they ROCK.
I went to a Tool concert in Memphis last night and I swear to god it sounds better on my damn Best Buy Klipsch speakers. I thought it during the entire concert and I just confirmed it 30 minutes ago by cranking the volume on this Onkyo louder than I'd ever cracked it before. I cranked it to 75 out of 99, and while the noise floor/background noise was quite high, the music itself was VERY lively, clean, crisp and the bass from two cheap ass subs was in my soul, with great impact.
The closest I've ever heard to concert level volume and clarity in any place other than a concert. It was really quite the experience I just had! I listened to Invincible, by Tool from their new album. It was a religious experience. Pretty sure my neighbors were NOT as enthuised about it as me though...
I'm also a headphone enthusiast but there's no comparison when it comes to headphones and even a modest (like mine) loudspekaer setup. When I bought these speakers back in 2016 (maybe 2017?) they were like $450 a piece and the subs were the same a piece. Though I did catch them all on sale for about a $100 off each. So $350 each. Knowing what these low end Klipsch towers can do I'd be thrilled to own the RP8000 or something from the Heritage line or RF7III. One day!
I think you are in an excellent place in the sense you are 100% satisfy with your system. This is gold and don't bother upgrading, just enjoy it. Thanks for the long comment.
RP280F vs RP8000F since both are bluetooth wireless, which would be more future proof for compatibility with others into a full HT system?
Well...that was an epic bass coming from speakers without adding a subwoofer!!!!
Finally. Many thanks
Just subscribe man you get me pumped I haven’t yet bought something Iam on a budget any recommend speakers with amp under $1000
Check out my video on what speaker to buy. Thanks.
Hi, I am looking at the video and learned a lot of things. I have many questions because I wanted to hear your opinion about which speakers to get under a budget of $3000. I am living in a 34pyeong apartment now, but I am worried about choosing the appropriate speakers for the living room. Because I'm flowered in Klipsch.. I'd like to hear which one you recommend!
Thank you
Awesome video as always still been blow away with the bel cantos.
Ah Sylvain, enjoy them as I really liked them too.
@@ThomasAndStereo I took another 2 days off
@@godssoldier597 man, having fun with the bel cantos 🤣
@@ThomasAndStereo 7 to 9 hours of music since friday
Hi there my friend has a plan to pair 8000s with Rotel RA-14. Do you think its a good match?
After doing some research I found out that the dual driver Klipsch is 80 degrees out of phase and it’s very present depending on what seating height you have.
They really need a crossover mod to be corrected. A DAC can help but the woofers need to be wired separately if that’s what you plan to do.
Do some research and you will find that not only am I correct but they really come to life after being modded.
Ah the Gr research vs audioholics debate. You know I have received email from people who have modded their speaker based on Gr research, some loved it and then there are some who hated it. You are assuming it sound better because the graph looks better but if you look at the blind sound test demo from new record day on the rp600m with the Gr research mod, half prefer the original one before the mod.
Thomas great review, thank you. Are the 8000 detailed ? Like close to focal details ? Thanks
Great work! Loved this comparison. I'm in a dilemma, should I buy R-820F's or the RP-8000F's? The 8000's are double priced
I’ve had both and kept the 280Fs because they aren’t quite as bright imo. Running them off of a marantz 6013 Avr and Emotiva xpa3 for front stage. 504c center. And I don’t like the copper trim rings they incorporated in the newer model.
@@TheDoozie43 I'm choosing between 280 and 8000. Thanks for Your opinion. But that man 👆had been asking for difference between 820 and 8000 (Reference line vs Reverence Premiere).
Great job!!! I owned a pair of klipsch rp8000 and I wonder if you had any integrated amp in mind with ht bypass that could match with my speakers. My budget is not over 2000€. I’m sooo confused!!!
Probably a crazy question, but any thoughts to these compared with the Tekton DI? Klipsch much more in the budget and I've wanted them for a while. I'm also seriously intrigued about the tekton, just not sure if additional price would be easy to realize
What has better sound stage klipsch rp-8000f or the elac UniFi 2.0 uf52