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Hello! I am the jeff player in the video that you gave an example of. I am currently gm1 (i think I was gm2 or 3 in this clip) while being a jeff main (~50 of my 52 hours). I don't disagree* with your placement of the character, but I feel that this clip specifically does show the weakness of the character, and your highlighting of it not being a defensive ult, which most supports have, is one of the weaknesses of the character. Something that is interesting though, specifically with this clip, was the intention behind the play. When going to touch point, I recognized the Hawkeye behind me, and knew that the Hawkeye would have enough time to touch, so I ulted in order to keep the thor from knocking Hawkeye away. Yes, it did not kill the thor, but that was not exactly the aim of the ult. It stalled time and burned cooldowns for alot of the team. The Hawkeye gave up at the end, which is shown by him... not walking towards the point. Jeff does have a significant amount of things that he lacks, and he is a bad character. Even though this may be true, I do believe he is stronger than some of the other cast members, like storm/squirrel girl. Something to keep in mind is that jeff ult COUNTERS other ults, like MANTIS or penni. The ability to eat mantis and her team mid ult is a game winning thing, as often the team is grouped on mantis. I would be happy to join your discord to explain a few more things regarding my stance, but I don't know if the link is posted on your channel. You're also welcome to add me in game to chat. I got sent this video by quite a few people asking for jeff tips lol, so I thought I'd comment and leave my opinion
scarlet needs a reworkkk idc what ppl say shes way too unidimensional. you can make a character not require insane aim but still have tools to develop varied playstyles or a skill floor to explore her beam mechanic to charge her ranged projectile fucking sucks
The thing is her kit does require good aim to hit her right clicks. But it takes way too long to charge up AND it doesn’t even do that much damage! Other Duelists just have way higher damage than her without having to charge anything up it makes no sense… And don’t even get me started on her useless ult…You either get one shot immediately, cc’d or they literally just walk away because you move like a turtle in the sky for 5 seconds. Her role is designed to be someone who picks off the backline but she can’t do that. And her escape is bad because they can literally just walk and chase you then finish you off when you come out of it. She has no survivability on her own. Unlike Black Panther who gets a million dashes AND shields, Magik who gets shields AND invulnerability, Spiderman flies across the map, Iron Fist (who isnt even that good) still has a parry. And Scarlet’s survivability tool is just useless because it’s purpose is for you to use it and run away but you don’t get enough distance…And her stun doesn’t even proc half the time even if they walk through it like…Literally her entire kit is just weak asf
I agree with most but i think its a matter of time before spiderman becomes top 3 or 1. He has the highest skill ceiling in the game and its not even close his movement tech and bhopping is INSANE he can get across every map under 15 seconds. We get that 99.99% of spidermans go 3-27 every game and do nothing but he is a crazy character.
Bro same, I want so dearly for Scarlet to be better. Not even meta, because in her current state, that would suck. Just good enough for me not to feel like I'm throwing by playing her.
@@learner5239best buff would be either more than 4 charges on her orbs or buff her stun because its the worst in the game by miles while mantis has a 5 second stun
Scarlet witch has the easiest stun to land in the game. You aren’t too 500. So you don’t need to play top tiers. Just play whoever’s the most fun and if that’s scarlet witch because you like her kit or just like the character play her and have fun
im ALMOST top 500 and im an iron man one trick pony (I use others if banned but cmon lol) and ive always said people are REALLY underestimating iron man iron man with hulk is just absolutely busted his DPS is very very consistent and can get in and out of danger easily with his flight mobility
I think he’s fine where he is I mean the 1 shot with 3 walls is cool but when are you ever gonna get a set up like that aside from like when they spawn.
Full in depth analysis of all the characters and the original Tier List can be found here: ua-cam.com/video/iL-E37g8dDs/v-deo.html
Thanks for watching gamers!
Hello!
I am the jeff player in the video that you gave an example of.
I am currently gm1 (i think I was gm2 or 3 in this clip) while being a jeff main (~50 of my 52 hours).
I don't disagree* with your placement of the character, but I feel that this clip specifically does show the weakness of the character, and your highlighting of it not being a defensive ult, which most supports have, is one of the weaknesses of the character. Something that is interesting though, specifically with this clip, was the intention behind the play. When going to touch point, I recognized the Hawkeye behind me, and knew that the Hawkeye would have enough time to touch, so I ulted in order to keep the thor from knocking Hawkeye away. Yes, it did not kill the thor, but that was not exactly the aim of the ult. It stalled time and burned cooldowns for alot of the team. The Hawkeye gave up at the end, which is shown by him... not walking towards the point.
Jeff does have a significant amount of things that he lacks, and he is a bad character. Even though this may be true, I do believe he is stronger than some of the other cast members, like storm/squirrel girl.
Something to keep in mind is that jeff ult COUNTERS other ults, like MANTIS or penni.
The ability to eat mantis and her team mid ult is a game winning thing, as often the team is grouped on mantis.
I would be happy to join your discord to explain a few more things regarding my stance, but I don't know if the link is posted on your channel. You're also welcome to add me in game to chat.
I got sent this video by quite a few people asking for jeff tips lol, so I thought I'd comment and leave my opinion
Respect homie, you're easily one of the bestJeff mains ive played with, absolutely no disrespect meant by the clip (hope that was obvious)
@@NukeyHDMarvelRivals of course. Just wanted to put another perspective on it.
scarlet needs a reworkkk idc what ppl say shes way too unidimensional. you can make a character not require insane aim but still have tools to develop varied playstyles or a skill floor to explore
her beam mechanic to charge her ranged projectile fucking sucks
The thing is her kit does require good aim to hit her right clicks. But it takes way too long to charge up AND it doesn’t even do that much damage! Other Duelists just have way higher damage than her without having to charge anything up it makes no sense… And don’t even get me started on her useless ult…You either get one shot immediately, cc’d or they literally just walk away because you move like a turtle in the sky for 5 seconds.
Her role is designed to be someone who picks off the backline but she can’t do that. And her escape is bad because they can literally just walk and chase you then finish you off when you come out of it. She has no survivability on her own. Unlike Black Panther who gets a million dashes AND shields, Magik who gets shields AND invulnerability, Spiderman flies across the map, Iron Fist (who isnt even that good) still has a parry. And Scarlet’s survivability tool is just useless because it’s purpose is for you to use it and run away but you don’t get enough distance…And her stun doesn’t even proc half the time even if they walk through it like…Literally her entire kit is just weak asf
I agree with most but i think its a matter of time before spiderman becomes top 3 or 1. He has the highest skill ceiling in the game and its not even close his movement tech and bhopping is INSANE he can get across every map under 15 seconds. We get that 99.99% of spidermans go 3-27 every game and do nothing but he is a crazy character.
I’m really bummed about Scarlet. She’s my favorite MCU character and she’s bottoming out. 😢
Bro same, I want so dearly for Scarlet to be better. Not even meta, because in her current state, that would suck. Just good enough for me not to feel like I'm throwing by playing her.
@@learner5239best buff would be either more than 4 charges on her orbs or buff her stun because its the worst in the game by miles while mantis has a 5 second stun
Scarlet witch has the easiest stun to land in the game. You aren’t too 500. So you don’t need to play top tiers. Just play whoever’s the most fun and if that’s scarlet witch because you like her kit or just like the character play her and have fun
@@ewandavies6774I cant count the amount of times they’ve walked in my stun bubble and didn’t even get stunned, it’s not the most reliable
Such an incredible character design too, here's hoping we get buffs in Season 1!
Storm used to be a menace in the alpha and beta that’s the main reason I main her now I just like getting value out of a character everyone hates on
I think it’s great!
im ALMOST top 500
and im an iron man one trick pony (I use others if banned but cmon lol)
and ive always said people are REALLY underestimating iron man
iron man with hulk is just absolutely busted
his DPS is very very consistent and can get in and out of danger easily with his flight mobility
Way better tier list, the one before had me clicking off immediately
Is that Scarlet skin a mod or an old exclusive? It's beautiful 😢
It’s from the alpha I think? Maybe first beta?
It's from the Alpha test about a year ago
Do you know some good groot players?
I think he’s fine where he is I mean the 1 shot with 3 walls is cool but when are you ever gonna get a set up like that aside from like when they spawn.
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Munched on top 500 ladder plays Groot often and is an absolute animal
I like widow and bc mantis is in almost every game, she can get one shots on squishies.
Ayo wait, that feels so shitty hearing that Storm was better in Alpha and Beta. She was intentionally made bad.
Trying to balance that many charaters for a launch of a game like this is difficult. Let them cook and ser what theyve got coming up
She's a scary character for sure though, hard to balance