Temple Grandin: Dogs and Autism
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- Опубліковано 29 кві 2018
- Temple Grandin is one of Adam’s biggest heroes and favorite humans. This nearly unedited interview was recorded in a cabin on Vashon Island off the coast of Seattle. In this special episode of Dogs in Our World, Dr. Grandin teaches Adam more about dogs and people. She also helps him better understand the Autism Spectrum and offers advice to those of us who have a family member with an autism label. Listen to this episode and learn from one of the biggest names in the world of animal science and autism awareness. Dr. Grandin has a lot to share about how both animals and humans think.
Special thanks to Travis Adams, Margaret Schermer, Penny Pickering Bolton, and Julie Forbes.
Research Links at notecastr.com/dogsinourworld/249/
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This lady has overcome many obstacles. She is an interesting person who has helped many people with disabilities.
A cow-horse hybrid that's profited the meat industry.
while I have many academic accolades. my favorite one was the acceptance of a feral stray cat. She came out and gave me her affection. It was the most gratifying things I have ever did. She passed away recently and I loved her.
How lovely that you appreciate everything she gave to you. ❤
Sorry for your loss. I went through losing my Lovey had her 14yrs then I decideded to adopt a new fur baby from a shelter. My new pet is well behaved and a joy. Hope you get through this difficult time.
Temple Grandin is very lucky that she had such a supportive family, especially during the 50s and 60s, when people weren't as accepting of people with disabilities. The fact that she's a woman wouldn't have helped back then, either.
As an autistic woman, she’s my role model. I strive to be like her.
@@nerdgeekcosplay909 I am not on the spectrum and I strive to be like her. I admire her very greatly.
Supportive mother. Father not so much.
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That was somewhat normal back then I believe.
There were alot of institutions that sterilized and lobotomized back then, yes even for children.
I really like how she covered that not all autistic kids are alike. Many people said my son should have a dog, but really the smell and the barking would just add to his state of overwhelm. We're cat people, and having cats has taught him a good deal about being gentle and how other people/animals react to erratic behavior. It's not a dog, but it's still beneficial.
No doubt you did the right thing. Those who suggested a dog meant well, but you knew. 😊
Dr. Temple Grandin is an absolute treasure. Because of her story, I know how to work with people with Autism and how to best deal with their learning levels based on her advice. Kids need to be given responsibility, be it jobs or pets, and bring back hands-on learning classes into the schools.
She only has good advice for folk like her. Be careful
She is in the niche when it comes to identifying solutions to problems concerning animals and people with ASD. Her awareness and powers of observation are awe-inspiring, considering she has ASD herself.
Well, it is because she is autistic that she has these observations. She is able to make these connections as a result of the autism, not in spite of it.
My son had a rough time til I got dairy goats to deal with daughter's eczema.He calmed and coped so much better after time with them. Eventually got a lab retriever that gave him pressure and protection. He loves cats but blooms with goats as they communicate persistently and consistently.
I was a veterinary technician for 20 years, best career ever....after getting breast cancer and decided I would get my RN, graduated at 52, wish I stuck with the animal health....I am a painter and at 68,spend my time painting people's pets...We have our dogs!!!!
Wow. Once in a while you find a deeply intelligent mind with incredible delivery skills. Binge Dr Grandin time
She is really a Gift to All of Us🌹❤️🐶
Met Temple when I was teaching autistic students in Cleveland, Ohio. She did a lecture on the autism spectrum and was promoting her book, Animals in Translation, which she signed for me. A most wonderful, kind and intelligent individual who is the Einstein of the cattle slaughter system by inventing her infamous squeeze box used in most cattle slaughter houses throughout the world.
I'm very grateful for the work Ms. Grandin has done to educate the world about autism! She helped me to understand my daughter and how she thinks during a time when girls were always diagnosed later in life. My daughter was just shy of 11, where boys are often diagnosed before the age of five.
As I stumbled looking for help and answers after the diagnosis, I made some discoveries on my own about helping my daughter to interact with the world at large. I'm physically disabled and decided to train my Border Collie mix to be my service dog (SD). This was about 11 years ago when my daughter was about 12. My daughter would hold the leash for me when we'd grocery shop to free me up. People would ask her questions about the dog, and she would answer!!!! She'd speak to complete strangers about my SD, and an entire world opened up for her! I can honestly say that without those interactions, my daughter would have not progressed by the leaps and bounds she made thru those social interactions.
My daughter worked full time while a full-time student earning her BA in History! And she works as a personal shopper, constantly interacting with people in a pretty chaotic environment. She amazes me every day, and I could not be prouder of her!
Ms. Grandin and my dog Sadie have been absolute Godsends for me and my daughter...thank you!!! ❤❤❤
You mention you are disabled, but it seems to me you were more focused on your daughter! You must be a wonderful person. Kindest regards to you. 😊
@tsstrat I've been disabled for about 25 years, so I trained my dog for service work. I look fine, but I have mobility and pain issues that my dog assists with. I just didn't expect my pup to help my daughter with her social skills! But God knows what He's doing, so I was happily surprised 😊❤️🐾
Thanks for bringing up trade schools, still helping folks gain skills to get things done. We still need truckers ,plumbers, electricians and auto mechanics. Positive vibes from New Hampshire, remember to be kind to each other and yourself during this pandemic and social crisis
Much of the advice she is giving about children can easily be applied to neurotypical children as well.
Absolutely! The Montessori education method was created to help developmentally disabled children, and works equally well for normal and gifted children. I was labeled “gifted” and “behaviorally disordered”, but I later found out I had autism. Self-directed learning with tangible objects, at my own pace, was a great benefit to me! My friend and I were through with 3rd grade reading by Kindergarten, and in 4th grade math. There were some 5 and 6 year olds still stacking blocks and learning practical skills, and we would help because we had mastered that. Kids at all levels were grouped together, and no one was “pulled out” or put down for where they were, academically. The behavioral diagnosis came later, in overstimulating classrooms where I was intentionally held back so my peers could “catch up.” If child rearing and educational models work for neurologically atypical children, they usually work with neurotypical children, too! The exception is the older Special Ed model, when it was assumed students with disabilities would not achieve what “normal” kids do. Rarely is that the case, when we use the right methods.
@@sciencenotstigma9534 Thanks for sharing your story. I wonder how much our "traditional" methods of teaching in public schools has to do with angry young men going back and shooting up schools. I think a lot. I grew up in the 1950s and 1960s when learning was a very negative experience. I could keep up as a high-functioning autistic person (diagnosed at age 66), but there was little in my life growing up that was positive. Just do as you're told; shut up, sit down and be still. Do what you are told, when you are told and how you are told and never, ever talk back. Got that from my parents as well. Thankfully, that has mostly gone by the wayside. Seems like conservatives still cling to that approach a good bit.
@@virginiamoss7045 Wow! I wonder why people don't talk about this - your insight about how schools torture so many, and the awful consequences seem clear and obvious to me, but we need to get attention for this to change for the better.
@@violahamilton782 You must have missed the year dates in my comment. We already have made the change you suggest, at least for the most part.
I very much like the part where she is talking about how important it was that she had friends that also liked horses. I've loved dogs and absorbed all knowledge of dogs I could ever find and became a bit of a human encyclopedia for dogs and bc of that, that's all I ever talked about, that's all I ever talk about now. I had a lot of people growing up bully me for how annoying and obsessed I seemed to them, I became ashamed of my love of them. Then I grew up and I started a job at a boarding facility with other dog lovers that were interested in what I had to say and I thrived.
You were right, anyway. Dogs are some of the most lovable creatures you could imagine. (I wish I'd known you when I was a kid!)
I was just thinking about Temple a few days ago. And... here she is! What a marvel!
Wonderful video! I am in awe of Temple's empathy with all living things. And from not talking until she was four, to being supremely articulate, is phenomenal. You can see the love she received coming through all that she does and says.
I have heard Dr Temple Grandin before and have always found her an inspiration to be able to see the whole social reality of survival for humanity. She is brilliant!! I very much miss living with a dog. I have often said as soon as my "no Pets" husband is no longer in my life I have said I would get a nice big dog and name it after him.
I'm curious, as someone on the spectrum I have difficulty meeting the eyes of someone I'm talking to. Did Temple have this? She is inspiring. I need to learn more about her. Her views are very practical. I see her views about animal engagement/interactivity with humans is being implemented to better the welfare of dogs in shelters. She also makes autism less scary.
There was a movie titled Temple Grandin, about her life, which was fascinating. Towards the end of the movie, theres a very touching scene where her mother is looking at her in admiration, and she says something about communicating through the eyes, and Temple responds "I cant do that," to which her mother in a gentle voice responds "I know." It seemed to me her mother was just sharing with her that this exists in this world for some. I can't recall if throughout the movie she was ever engaged in eye contact with anyone. The actual Temple Grandin said she was pleased with how she was portrayed in the movie and the movie itself.
I'm a big fan of hers, and her mother's.
Temple is such a GOOD person! And how rare is that?!
Pay attention to her wisdom.
Great advice. Exposing kids to tons of things so they get to know what they really enjoy and excel in.
I'm autistic and exceptionally socially aware and socially intelligent- I am also very perceptive and intuitive. I got myself a late diagnosis in my 30s. People are always incredulous at the fact that I'm autistic. Family and friends argued with me saying that I didn't seem autistic, etc, etc... Autism has maaaaaany forms. The doctor who diagnosed me said that I'm the loveliest, best masked autistic person she's ever met. Some girls are excellent actrices, like Marilyn Monroe, who I believe to be autistic because after studying her heavily, I can conclude that she checks all the boxes. One actress she worked with even said she never looked her in the eyes while rehearsing. There are many other signs beside that. Not all of us are socially awkward. Some, like me, are so well masked in public, but just loooooooooove an abundance of alone time in private life and are perfectly fine being hermits outside of a very socially invested workplace.
Incredible! What an amazing woman who is making the world better for Animals, and people in need.
I love hearing her explain things!
Temple is the only one who perceives and experiences the animal world as I do...she has helped me and my understanding of my son immeasurably. Thank you God for Temple Grandin, and for her guardian mother who protected her so she could come to the rest of us
Thank you for this excellent interview with Dr. Temple Grandin!
Awesome 👍 I am a special educator teaching and guiding autistic children in one of India's top schools The talks and books by Temple Grandin has given me deeper insight and motivation to help autistic kids to see a bright tomorrow.
Thank you once again
LAte diagnoses Genxr and my parents got a shelter dog when I was 3 , i fell asleep on her in the middle of the kitchen floor , being adopted as well, it was the first "being" that felt safe. my parents fishnetted me into my playpen in my room as a toddler . I still got out , out the front door , into the backyard . They tried to make the TV "broken" so I slept in on Saturdays "fixed " it everytime !
Many thanks to you and Dr. Temple Grandin. I learned more about both animal and human thinking. I even understand my own thinking better. I see words as though written on a chalkboard or hanging in space. I saw dogs. I saw a sound mixer. I suppose I’m a visual thinker also. I see snapshots as Dr. Grandin does. I’m not on the spectrum, but I understand now that everyone else doesn’t process their world as I do mine. I think this will help my connections with people going forward. Again, thank you.
Mint-he5ok, I agree with you. I am not on the spectrum however I am an artist and have always thought in pictures. I consider my dreams while sleeping, nightly MOVIE SHOWS!!! So incredibly visual and intrcate and involved, are my dreams. I am a "Highly Sensitive Person" (I have just discovered) Goddess Bless Temple Grandin!!! Thanks to her and to you @Mint-he5ok for commenting and making me feel like a am part of another group. Thanks also to the interveiwer Adam Winston!!! Blessings to all in the Divine Animal Kingdom!
Thanks from France, it's always a pleasure to hear Temple Grandin....
Love to hear her talk
Super helpful
Tx, much appreciated, fascinating & informative.
Regardless of any labels, this is sound “Lifestyle” advice, for our relationship with ourselves, each other & our children, furry or not 🙂
Thank you Temple… for being you and for your ongoing contributions to life itself.
So glad I found this. Thanks for the effort
Loved the show. Thank you. Had already seen Professor Grandin's biopic. Spectacular! She truly is a gift.
We are very much victims of circumstances, repeatitive behavior comes from gtn a shock no matter what we do ,we can become crazy hella fast ,but if the negative is removed we recover pritty quick but some scares remain ,and in the end we remember the trama from the events ,not all but deff the milder cases of autism,but when we are forced to mask omfg that is some of the worst abuse society can do to us ,msj from JB.
Fascinating, great interview
Brilliant program!!
Love you, Temple! 💛👍😊
Dr Temple Grandin is wonderful.
Thanks ❤😊
What an amazing woman. Thank you for this very informative interview. Priceless!
Thanks Clay! It was a great experience. Temple was very gracious.
FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HEAR HER SPEAK IN RIVERSIDE CA, WHAT A TREAT! JUST LOVED HER TO PIECES!💕
Really enjoyed this video. Dr. Grandin is so inspiring!😍
There's a beautiful video of this family that adopted a dog from the shelter, that connected with their autistic son. They already had two dogs that for some reason didn't connect with him. But the third dog he just loved the little boy and helped him be verbal and talk to and about their dog.
There is a book entitled The Cat who came home for Christmas. The author tells of how her son who was diagnosed at 8 years old, had a connection with a cat that was found in their shed. Beautiful story.
Would you please share the title of the video of the family that adopted a dog from the shelter. I have two nonverbal autistic grandsons and this video would be helpful to watch. Thank you.
Fascinating, Dr Temple Grandin is an inspiration to me. I found out about Dr Temple Grandin research on autism ecently. So happy to learn more. Dr Temple Grandin is a gift from God to all humans and animals.
Good interview! I am currently reading her book Animals in Translation and it is great. She is a gift to the animal and human world.
Also, I volunteer at animal shelters and with animal rescues. It is not totally sad like people think. It is incredibly joyous, interesting and rewarding. I have lifelong friends from that world as well. Don't hesitate if you are thinking about it.
Love her
I am autistic and dyspraxic. Having a dog has kept me from doing myself in, because I knew that dog needed me to take care of it... more than once. By my associating rules with taking care of the dog, I take care of myself. When he tells me it's time to eat, we both eat. When I give him fresh water, I fill up my water. (I then forget to drink it, but the rule to drink water every time I open the refridgerator helps, along with other things. For me, I have struggles with getting dehydrated. My lips get chapped from me forgetting to drink.) My dog howls if an (fire tornado siren) alarm or (drier, microwave, stove) buzzer is going off. If I am autistic focused on something, those sounds may not register. I was conditioned to ignore what were loud sounds to me and add autism focus... that happens. I once took nyquil, and the dog freaked out. He literally tried to get me up. He got up on top of me and barked in my face. After I pushed him off, he put his nose under my head and lifted it up off the pillow repeatedly; until I got up. I keep my home silent most of the time, and it is glorious. I got rid of a battery operated clock in the living room, because the sound of the plastic gears were keeping me awake in my room. (Not having control over the sounds is bad. I will listen to hard rock and be fine, as long as I am the one controlling it and done when I want it.) I don't recommend beagles for people with sound sensitivities, though. They are horrendously loud. I find when it comes to people, I am more like the semi-feral cat that moved in with us, than the dog; but I love the dog with my soul. He keeps me calm(er), and interracts with me pleasantly. It's not like being around people. There are no worries.
Wonderful woman! Have you seen dog vs. Crow at the puzzle box? Crow slays it! I love dogs and crows, crows are more relatable to me somehow, perhaps it's because they think more like me while still being social. They see patterns like I do.
Its Dr Temple Grandin, please respect her education, she has worked very hard to earn respect. Dr Grandin has written several books regarding her research on animals- live stock- science and animals and the book "the autistic brain"
Amazing woman!!
Thank you so much for all your information! I have a Down syndrome who has autism we did get him a dog he loves him his best friend
Shaking in anger at how much this lines up with my past 30 years
One hour a day for a video game that's shorter than a movie seems unreasonable since video games are more joyful than a movie.
You will have a difficult time finding
new 😂joyful activities until you start trying new skills for 2-3 hours per day. Please try many new things for 3-5 hours a day for maybe 4 months. You deserve a life with many joyful activities to choose from. Most activities take time and practice before you discover the joyful part of the activity. Give yourself a joyful life.😅🎉😅
I used to have nightmares very often. Until I got Bryan. He was only 7 weeks old and since he somehow didn't pee inside I let him sleep in bed.
Bryan feels it when im not sleeping right. He wakes me up when it starts preventing the nightmare from happening. And he did this at 7 weeks!
He is turning 12 in a month and its no longer an issue.
So yes, dogs can help. But you need the one that just instantly feels you.
I have never gotten a dog on looks. I go out and meet the dog.
It has happened once that I went to get a cat and we sort of agreed on the male in the litter. But I told the breeder, if the cat is not a match, I might not take one at all.
And then another cat walked up to me and it instantly clicked. So I took her. She was a great cat.
When someone decides to get a dog, go to places that have healthy dogs that have been health checked and just meet them. And take the one that connects with you, not the one you visually like most. The matched dog will give you the very best experience with the dog. It just clicks.
Everyone doesn't think in pictures and snapshots? I know some people don't have any visual memory, but I thought everyone else was a "visual thinker" like she mentioned.
Why did yall cut off the part where she began to talk about being a visual thinker?
Drew, I'll have to give it another listen and see what's up. I remember it was a fairly unedited interview. Maybe I still have the raw recording and can post that eventually. Thanks!
Awesome. Thank you. I find what she says fascinating. I'm autistic too so she's kind of a folk hero for me.
I FIRST SAW TEMPLE AT HER APPEARANCE IN KELOWNA, B.C., CANADA...REACTION TO HER BEING HERE WAS SO OVERWHELMING THAT THEY SET UP A SATELLITE SETTING....IT WAS AWESOME...IF ASKED WHO ON THIS EARTH I WOULD LIKE TO SPEND A DAY FOLLOWING....MY CHOICE WOULD BE "TEMPLE GRANDIN". AMP.
I adopted my cat from APA she is well behaved and a great pet ❤
Thank you Temple and this podcast, I am hoping to get a dog that is trained for autism to stop me from injuring myself when I start doing some repetitive behaviors. I also need one that will be comforting during my meltdowns. I am hoping for a small apartment dog, since we live up 1.5 flights of stairs and I worry about a larger dog and hip dysplasia.
I wonder if she’s right about auto mechanics and the future of The combustion engine? Seems like to push is to development of the Electric engine .
I have an autistic dog, seriously he has every symptom humans get. I would love to explain to someone about this who might understand. We have a fair few working sheepdogs and work train sell etc. This dog had from pup brought up like all the rest but he is like no dog we ever had. He would be shot by a farmer, be in rescue if went as a pet. He safe with me but I just had a light bulb moment about his behaviour, ie autism. You think it's possible? I certainly do now and he be fully on spectrum I believe
Skilled trades are vital
If they don't have room for dogs, may I suggest rsts! They are amazing intelligent, social, affectionate, little dogs
THE ONE THING I REMEMBER HER STRESSING IS THAT KIDS WITH AUTISM NEED TO LEARN TO TAKE TURNS… NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT…. HOW MANY ADULTS NEVER LEARNED THAT SKILL? IT’S SAD!
I love her shirts! Does she have a clothing line?
She is wonderful, always! What a gift to all interested..... 7;^>......
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I appreciate Dr Temple emphasizes in her view, the autistic children need to be "weaned from" and ultimately removed from the reclusive video gaming environment in order to take jobs and yes, take care of another life, a dog. Getting a dog isn't the solution. The interviewer always asks about "getting a dog". Finding a dog in need and teaching any child responsibility to that pet would be the best event.
You are so right!!
They didn't have computers back then. My daughter is on the spectrum and adhd. She had a job and was severely bullied. Struggles with getting jobs. Even the farmers market wouldn't hire her. Its not easy. These days is a struggle socially and jobs for these kiddos. Its also a safety issue these days.
What is your experience of children starting to talk at 3/4 years, do the go straight to talking in paragraphs?
I'm stopping in here to listen to Temple Grandin because this week I began reading one of her books, "Thinking In Pictures". How's this for immediate influence?
I just pulled "Thinking In Pictures" out of my unread book collection last Sunday morning and added it to my current reading pile, and then I left to go to our state fair. While at the fair, walking among the beef cattle, I noticed an Angus cow that was giving off anxious vibes, so I went over to check things out. I placed a hand on her left shoulder to let her know I was there, and she gave me her attention. It looked to me as though she was tied up too high, and in her attempts to become less uncomfortable she had managed to twist her halter until the left under-eye strap was almost up into the eye. Twisted, the halter was also quite tight. I dared not untie somebody's cow, or try to fix the halter without having her untied, so I said a couple of times, "I will get help." (No idea how much cows can understand of our verbal intonations, but as with all animals I'm willing to believe that they're smarter than we realize.)
And so I did. The owners did not seem to be present, but when I asked a small gathering of cattle ranch folks if there was anything that could be done for a distressed cow -- appears to be tied up too high and her halter is twisted and too close to her eye -- everybody started to get up at the same time to come to her aid. One of the guys said, "I'll go!" and we were off. Back over at the Angus girl, the rancher took a quick look, said "OH YEAH.", untied her, straightened the halter, and re-tied her two rungs lower. The immediate relief in that cow seemed palpable. It was certainly visible -- not only did her body language lose its anxiety, it almost seemed you could see right through her skin that her flank muscles were greatly relaxed. I thanked the rancher for myself, and for the much calmer cow.
Children need to learn responsibility, show them how to walk a dog, feed the dog, clean the kennel. I know its difficult, fully verbal kids are reclusive on the cell phone gaming. I agree with Dr Temple Grandin children need to learn and understand how to care for dog, love their pet, walk it, clean up after it, take the animal outside for walks every day. Dont recluse in house. Gaming on the cell phone is harming todays young people not helping them.
I love History, but I always hated how it was taught, because it would jump all over the map from one place to the next and It always frustrated me that so much of the content of Africa doesn't get its full story told. So I did a whole World History lesson units based on continents, not civilizations and events alone. So I would start with Africa and tell the significant events and historical figures of that continent, then I would go to Asia, then Australia, then to the Americas. then to Europe... after the significance of each part I would then connect them through similarities. By teaching World History this way, kids get to be exposed to various cultures and why we are how we are now through the events throughout the world and how one nation effects the other, etc. I teach World History from an anthropological perspective rather than archeological, which archeological can be very Eurocentric. From an anthropological perspective every state/nation is given a chance to tell their story. It also makes visual sense since humanity from a biological view came from Africa, so makes sense to start Human History from there. That is how my Autistic mind works, and my professor loved the unit plan and idea of how I would present World History. Unfortunately, exams are too Eurocentric (most archeology is from European discoveries), and nothing of real science (anthropology). I always felt it made more sense to start at Africa and follow the steps where humans move to and see how they were form that way. But we always start history at Mesopotamia, as if oral traditions aren't a form of civilization.
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I wonder if temple has ever been really emotionally close to an animal? She doesn’t seem to have any issues with the inherent cruelty to animals that the “industry” inflicts
Isn’t everybody thinking in pictures??? Like 🐝🐝🐝, not ‘BEES’???
My horse saved me.
Hah the intro music kinda makes it sound like Grandin is a pimp or something
Any books about cow tipping available?
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Dog is God backwards. I don't think that's a mistake
Confirming our subhumanity.
temple grandin is an ableist
why?
Yikes, dogs/cats licking/scratching themselves is maddening, as a kid I would smack the dog to stop licking, then poor thing licked nervously even more!! ~ poor me ~
you did not make sense.
@@allinaday9882 In what way?
how is this related to the video please explain.😊
relevance
@@allinaday9882 Well, in video Temple talks about things that irritate Autistics, so my intent allinaday ~ looking back as an immature Autistic child, was that animals licking themselves, in fact any mouth noises like gum chewing, really drives me up the wall, comprende?
Too bad she doesn't understand that all the animals that she helps corral for slaughter want to live just as much as she does. I wonder what she thinks about cultures that eats dogs and horses, both animals she loves. Do they deserve to eaten, like all the "livestock" she helps to send to slaughter. So many smart people just become cultural robots and can't think outside the box.
God gave us animals to feed his people.....
@@carleenturner1348 So go eat your dog, lol.
Are you complaining after reading her first book? I thought she explained your point very clearly😊!
I admire and respect Dr Temple Grandin. If you dont prefer to eat meat its a choice. Many people arent vegetarians 😂