Why wasn't Bulgaria a part of Yugoslavia?
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Why wasn't Bulgaria a part of Yugoslavia?
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Knowledgia ,,macedonians'' are created like a nation in Yugoslavia. You dont say that BEFORE Yugoslavia ,,macedonians'' ARE BULGARIANS by ALL historical documents. In Bulgaria we have - myself too, - 2 or 3 MILLION ,,macedonians'' , descendants from refugees from the SAME Macedonia. We are 3 million. In brainwashed FYROM are 1.1 million ,,macedonians'', 100 000 of them allready with Bulgarian citizenship based of BULGARIAN ORIGIN. Okay, let this people, brainwashed from 1944 call themselves ,,macedonians''. But BEFORE 1944 they have NO RIGHT to call people who call themselves Bulgarians with their communist nation name.
The last thing that you want is a more diverse Yugoslavia
@@niks1na I lost some briancells reading your comment
@@BrownDusky it is not my problem that you are stupid or in war with the true.
Your pronunciation of Croats probably earned you a ban from Croatia
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Good enough.
Dear Leader
@Green Weed He is the way.
Next question: Why didn't Poland and Czechoslovakia form Zapadoslavia?
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@Kabo Torko true, proxy paws
@Kabo Torko czechs were nationality a long time before then. They fight for more independence in austro-hungarian empire even before WWI. they also tried to change the name of the empire to the austro-czech-hungarian empire, which they obviously failed. Czechs had their state mostly because of T.G. Masaryk and Czechoslovak legions. Czechoslovak legions were fighting in WWI on the side of allies even before Czechoslovakia officialy existed. Try to to find something about Czechoslovak legions. Czechoslovakia was made on historical border of Kingdom of Bohemia. Austro-hungarian empire was only a small part of Czech history :-) our history and laguange goes far more deeper to the times where there were even no habsburg dynasty. So czechoslovakia was a national state, we just had problems with germans, but german wasnt even one of the official languages in Czechoslovakia. The German problem was solved after WWI of Beneš decrees. Czechs and Slovaks are more or lees same nation. In Czech republic we now have a prime minister from Slovakia ( Andrej Babiš), which cant fluently speak czech language and uses a mix of czech/slovak language - almost 30 years after splitting the countries :D
@Kabo Torko 👍
@Kabo Torko Czechs (people of Bohemia) and Slovaks and Moravians and small number of Silesians are quite the same nation called Czechoslovaks/Czechs. That was the idea of Czechoslovakia. They were (and are) bound together by same language (with different dialects) and same history and also by blood they bled together in Czechoslovaks legions.. 3 milions of Germans - T.G. Masaryk - the first president of Czechoslovakia told them, that they will become Czechoslovaks or they need to leave. And many of them did so, many of german aristocracy became Czecholovaks too (and after 1938 they became germans back) German language wasnt even official laguage of the state (but most of Czechoslovaks knew the language as relict of AH empire), so if you wanted to live in Czechoslovakia, u had to know the language and become a part of nation. Germans were mostly in border regions- sudetenland (many lived there for centuries, because Kingdom of Bohemia was a part of a Holy Roman Empire). Half milions of hungarians were in south slovakia - also a borderland. And as you know from history - there war between Czechoslovakia and Hungary about Slovakia. The reason is that for Hungarians is Slovakia just Upper Hungaria. Modern Hungary is historical Lower Hungaria. So Hungarians wanted to make the big Hungary state. Same think with Poland. Poland and Czechoslovakia was in war about Silesia. Most of Silesia is in Poland, but not all. In Poland you had Silesians, you have Prussians and others which they all together are Poles. In that days they also had a lot of germans because of Prusssia. So if Czechoslovakia wasnt a national state, then Poland was not one too (and Germany also). You need to learn a lot about history of Czechoslovakia and Europe. Its not that simple.
Serbia: "Let's make a South Slavic Voltron!"
Bulgaria: "You guys have fun!"
... and give me back the Macedonian part of this Voltron.
@Complex Construct haha yess..
And they had fun but bulgaria not 😀
@@azureblue5440until one day when 90s came and everybody decided to play some paintball :))))))
@Complex Construct but it is.
Viva Bulgarian 👍👍👍
jorgan Kharn Tatars? more than 2000 years ago we have inhabited the lands close to Kashmir. Bulgarians were, not Tatars. Bulgarians was always called Bulgarians never Tatars and wherever there was country it was named Bulgaria. Simply put for ignorants like you. After the 5 sons of khan kubrat departed they created 5 Bulgaria's and more with their successors. One was in khan kubrat lands, at Volga river, khan Asparuh's Bulgaria above Dunav reaver where is now Romania, Khan Kuber Bulgaria at the territory of today's Macedonia, Panon's Bulgaria at the land of France and Alcek Bulgaria and in mid south Italia. Some people also go from the land of origin to India, and some from the Kubrat land to Armenia. So if you are Macedonian u sure are from those who you call Tatars.
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@@zanartofwar7892 damn dude, you absolutely killed him and his fake history of North Macedonia
@@youtubeaccount0168 ez rekt xd
@@zanartofwar7892 Respect from Bulgaria.
Viva to what?
Kingdom of Serbs, *Crots* and Slovenes.
Ok
Ennyire félsz a magyarok nyilaitól?
croots
CROOOOOT
Kingdom of Croats....Slovenian and Servians
Go to your jail cell
Yugoslavia: *exists*
Greece: chill
Yugoslavia: *about to collapse*
Greece: still chill
Yugoslavia: *collapses*
Greece: *still chill still chill still*
*Former country of Yugoslavia calls itself "Macedonia"*
Grecce: *NOT CHILL NOT CHILL NOT CHILL*
Then Greece collapses
Dafuq is that logic
@@THECOMMUNISTCHANNEL prolly joking about the Greek economic collapse
*Bulgaria claims Macedonia*
Greece: ALEXANDER THE GREAT WAS GREEK SOO MACEDONIA IS GREECE!!!!
@@bandvitromaniaios1307 Macedonia is Greece because it’s in Greece we just want phaonecia back
As a proud Bulgarian, i tell you that there are a lot of mistakes about the ideas in the politics of the country!
Because they were simply never friendly with each other. Just because they're all slavs doesn't mean they can automatically be one nation. Yugoslavia ended up as a big failure anyway, Bulgaria dodged a bullet, in the literal sense.
Bulgars adopted Slavic language and culture. Originaly, they are of Turkish origin: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgars
@@feiticeirafatale561 So I still have to talk with people like you. The Bulgars are most definitely not Turkish in origin, not only because they’re first mentioned in Europe (mid-4th century) a thousand years before the Turks expanded in Europe (mid-14th century), but even a couple centuries before the first people called Turks (i.e. the Ashina clan) appeared in Central Asia itself.
The proper term is not Turkish, but Turkic, which is first and foremost a linguistic term (i.e. speakers of a language from the Turkic linguistic family, just like Indo-European is also famously not an ethnicity, but a linguistic group). So, if the question is: Are the Bulgarians truly Turkic in origin (which would make sense mostly if changed to “Did the ancient Bulgars speak a Turkic (particularly a Hunnic) language?”), then the answer is - maybe. The so-called Turkic theory for the origin of the Bulgars (note: Bulgars and Bulgarians is not exactly the same thing, as basically “Bulgars+Slavs+Thracians=Bulgarians”) has been dominant for a long time and it seems quite likely that at least a part of the Bulgar tribes spoke some form of Turkic (the so-called R-Turkic, probably related to Hunnic). But according to many modern Bulgarian researchers, most of the tribes in the Bulgar tribal union would have been Sarmatian in origin and thus probably spoke an Iranic language (though the presence of Slavic, Gothic and Ugro-Finnic speakers is also certainly possible).
All in all, the Eurasian (esp. the Pontic) steppes during the Great Migration of Peoples were a quite dynamic area. This is said by a historian btw, not me.
@@buklborisov2460 Buki you are very right!!! Good history lesson!
So basically, what you've told us, the reason why Bulgaria didn't join Yugoslavia was because it was not invited and it didn't want to join in the first place.
It was invited
@@svetlinsofiev6729 was it?
Look up the Bled Agreement. It was the beginning of unification. The Tito-Stalin split is the real reason they didn’t unify as Bulgaria was threatened by the Soviet’s and reneged in any plans set fourth in 1947.
Not really. Actually Yugoslavia and USSR started the unification (more assimilation) through the creation of the macedonian language and ethnicity - it was going to be the "link" between bulgarians and the western balkan slavs because they speak a variation of the "shopski" dialect in Bulgaria which the serbs can partially understand if you speak slow.
They started to macedonize the population in nowadays North Macedonia and in Southwestern region - Pirin and Rila.
BUT Tito and Stalin disagreed on certain political views and things and the joining of Bulgaria was stopped also the macedonization only in Bulgaria, sadly can't say the same for the bulgarians in Yugoslavia.
In modern time you can see the result of that act - the country North Macedonia and it's people.
@@bratletobatka not to mention the 3/4 generations of Bulgarians in Macedonia that were assimilated(brainwashed) into Macedonians. Decades of torture and even death if you dared to speak Bulgarian. In fact it was all along the Zionist plan to depopulate and weaken Bulgaria. Fun fact - the communism in Bulgaria fell because of one of them so called Zionists - Robert Maxwell. He ought to be the one that is responsible for that infrastructure project that bankrupted the communist regime. One more fun fact - there was a Zionist congress that publicly anounced a program of theirs named "Programme for destroying the Bulgarian people".IM NOT EVEN JOKING!
Your story starts after Yugoslavia was created. The focus of the narrative is mostly unrelated to the subject and too many important chunks are missing (Balkan wars? WW1?). 9 lost minutes.
he talks about the balkan wars in another video.
@@vaghigmegerdichian2579 he also talks about Tito and Stalin in other videos. My point is that the arguments do not prove the question.
Exactly. Oh we just gonna be friends in our union. Bulgaria forgot the offence on 1885 by the Balkan war. If the second 1 hadnt happened and the league remained today it coudlve been a strong area.
Yea like the fact Yugo came to exist first as the State of Slovenes, Croats and Vojvodine Serbs at first.
@Strainul Misterios there was a reason for that, Serbia didnt honor pre-war agreements and occupied territories that was supposed to be Bulgarian. They also made a pact with Greece against bulgaria, so I dont think only Bulgaria to blame here. Sill the Tsar made some questionable decisions.
This video completely misses its own point. There was 1 point in time when Bulgaria might realistically have been integrated into Yugoslavia: right after WW2. This video should have explored that timeline in depth instead of repeatedly asking the question "are they together yet" all the way up to the point of disintegration of Yugoslavia.
1947 Bled Agreement
literally, its genuinely painful to listen to and it completely missed the fact that they almost did form a union, but Stalin simply didn't approve of it as it was discussed without his knowledge
Dudes, there is no way BG to join yugos. BG army was always bigger and better than 3 out of 4 our neighbors. Serbs tried to get lands and were always buttfcked by our army. Few times Austria intervened to stop us parading in Belgrade. To understand further the true MIGHT of serbian army - please check how Belgrade was taken by Germans in WWII. Would you guessed it took 11 Germans to capture the city?
@@evlogig Not many people know this facts. Thank you for remind me :P
@@evlogig taken by bulgars! germans are helping only! serbs tribesa were no problem in the ages
Becouse of so colled The Brother killing war 1885( at least in school we tought that serbs are our brothers in a way, bulgarians wins, but on what price) and also they drink only krushovitza, we also drink slivovica, djankovica, grozdanka, etc. but we all love Mile Kitic :)) Love from Bulgaria
Šljivovica is most popular rakia in Serbia.
The kingdom of Serbs, Krouts and Slovenes
Croats. You need to go back to you jail cell.
It's pronounced Croats. Croatia. The beautiful country with famous Adriatic sea coast. Island of Hvar with 360 days of sunshine.
@Kabo Torko oky Tokyo world cup 2022
@Kabo Torko servians are watching Euro 2021 on tv
Kingdom of slobo Milosevic ...haahaa
Reading Slavic names in English is always fun :) The royal Yugoslavian house of Serbia (later Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes, and Kingdom of Yugoslavia) was written as "Karađorđević" in Serbian and Croat languages given in Latin script. But it was read and pronounced as Karadzhordzhevich (Car-rah-George-ev-each).
Slavic name Ivan is not read as "Ayvan" but as "Eevan" or "Eve-Anne". So, the name is to be read as "Eve-Anne Shoe-bash-each". And, of course, Cro-ats are not Kraut :D
Bulgarian monarchy was not formally thrown away in 1944 but only in 1946, after the war. So, there was an awkward transitory period of a little bit more than a year of an absurd Communist Kingdom :) Something similar happened in Romania where monarchy was abolished in 1947.
Actually, the first ideas of a "Yugoslavia" or South Slavic confederacy started somewhere between 1862-1867 as a fantastic plan by a group of Bulgarian nationalists to use Serbia as the liberator of Bulgaria from the Ottoman Empire and put Serbian Prince Michael (Mikhaylo) Obrenovich on the throne of a new Bulgarian state. But by the real forming of modern Bulgaria (in 1878) Prince Michael was already dead and the two Balkan countries fought against each other in 1885, 1913, 1915-1918 and 1941-44, so there was no actual possibility for Bulgaria joining the real Yugoslavia at any point. From a Bulgarian point of view, Yugoslavia was just a Serbian empire.
the narrator couldn't bother to look up the pronounciations lol so I'm not going to bother watching his videos.
You must not be familiar with the bled agreement of 1947 which paved the way for Bulgaria to become the 7th republic along with borders re drawn )parts of Serbia were to be within Bulgaria’s borders and part of Bulgaria was to go to Macedonia. The only reason unification did not occur was due to the Tito-Stalin split. Bulgaria was fearful of leaving Warsaw Pact as they were threatened by the soviets if they were to join Yugoslavia.
@@internet4543 so you have to be thankful to Bulgarian for that, because Bulgarians khan created this clever language
By the way thanks to Stalin Bulgaria didn’t join Yugoslavia, and thanks to Russia king Alexander 2 Bulgaria after 500 years under Turkey , became a country again .
@@dinoo7911 I recall my grandfather describing of the process of Bulgaria and subsequently Romania joining Yugoslavia
I cannot remember what meeting Tito, Dimitrov and chausesku were summonded to but Tito didn't go, Dimitrov returned to Bulgaria in a coffin and chausesku stayed out of Yugoslavia
Shame because a Balkan Federation would not have had a dominant state and would have been a stabilising force economic and military in southern europe
Bulgaria is the heart of the balkans everyone of our neighbours either share our history or is part of our history
Other countries are not Tatars like the Bulgars
@@RU-Aussie How much you got paid?
@@RU-Aussie it's amazing how i see the world and you see it. Maybe one of us is right. But doesn't that bothers you?
@@RU-Aussieyou will suffer from the tatars if we catch you! half-breed
Greece be like: Nope
Man bulgaria is one of the oldest country on balkans plus we was on 3 seas and the teritory of yugoslavia was ours
Кой е от България тук
Тук ли си, ако те няма да действам?
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Not sure if I am more amazed by "Crowts" or the "Cars - george - wicks" instead of Karageorgevich's
Exactly!
Guy is trying lol
@@TheEmoSyndicate That's very true. And I learned a lot from this video.
@@MichaelAndersxq28guy if you forget everything you learned from this video, won't be a huge loss.
Him: 'I bet the next name will something I can pronounce."
Him again: "Oh no."
Because Bulgarians are strong people. Respect to Bulgaria 🇧🇬
hahahah yea very strong 2nd balkan war defeat, 1st ww defeat, 2nd ww defeat, warsaw pact/cold war defeat. Yea very strong yeaaaa hahahaahhaahah
@@Eufrat93 you guys weren't gonna win the Balkan wars without Bulgaria, we were defeating the Serbs in the second Balkan war only the Greeks were the stronger opponent and you had to be saved by Romania, Yugoslavia was part of Eastern bloc and Communism failed so you guys also lost the cold war, we first defeated you in the Serbo-bulgarian war of 1885
@@GabrielV65 absolutelty so. In 1885. Vienna saved the Serbs. My great-grandfather served in Croatian divison of Austrohungarian army and met with Bulgarians in southern Serbia in WW1
@@Harahvaiti Both Croats and Bulgarians were defeated by Serbs in World War I. Croatian division of Austrohungarian army tens of thousands of killed.
@@markoobradovic9799 as I recall Serbia was the only Entente member who was occupied (OK, Montenegro too). Croatian flag was hung on Beli Dvor together with KuK flag and flag of Hungary.
You should've covered history of the area prior to the 20th century as both Bulgaria and Serbia have had their own countries since medieval times.
Are Slavic names really so hard to pronounce?
Poland: Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz 😀😀😀
It can't be that hard, it's pronounced exactly as it's spelled. :)
the polish is not hard to pronauns ,the problem is that they put many letters for one sound,,and that is the problem.It is hard for reading.
That's not hard to pronounce. It just look complicated because one sound is not one letter. Гжегош Бжен-чиш-чи-кевич
Така се казва единия от танкистите ми на World of Tanks :D
Is hard for germani (неми, немци) becouse they dont have letters: ж,ђ,џ,ћ,ч or latin ž,đ,dž,ć,č.... Non Slavic Europians have fewer letters than we do and they have less developed speech. So, since the time of the Romans and the old Greeks, they have had problems with the pronunciation of both Slavic peoples and toponyms. Croats call themselves Hrvati and it is pronounced as it is written. Also it is not pronounced Serbs but Srbs, but it is difficult for non Slavic to pronounce consonants together. Each letter one sound is in Srbija.
Kingdom of Serbs,Croats,Slovenes and Bulgarians
That takes a mouthful to say.
It made more sense for Serbs to make a common state with Bulgarians than with Croats. I'm not saying it should have been done, but it made more sense. Bulgaria and Serbia are both South Slavic nations, belonging to Orthodox neo-Byzantine civilization, with a history of both alliances, dynastic ties, common projects etc. Croatia isa part of Western civilization which served only to subdue Serbian state and Yugoslavia from the start. And since 1945, their political elite essentially ran the show, and separated away Bosnia, Montenegro, Macedonia, Kosovo and Vojvodina from Serbia. Serbs would have been much better of if they never formed Yugoslavia int he first place and simply annexed the aforementioned ethnic Serbian territories in 1918.
@@Porkeater2610957 true but its just their situation that made it difficult.Bulgaria was tsarist and largely prone to allying with much more powerful nations other than Yugoslavia during the Interwar Period and all chances are dropped once Bulgaria becomes a puppet state of the Soviet Union who will never give Bulgaria to Yugoslavia and Bulgaria was smart,it knew that the serbs will dominate the other ethic groups as well.
@@ramen_9588 and idk if this matters but a Bulgarian assassinated the Serbian King Alexander I
@Khan Avitohol Have I ever mentioned that Bulgaria or Macedonia should be a part of Serbia? You're arguing with someone else, not me.
Kosovo and Montenegro are Serbia, Macedonia is not.
@@Porkeater2610957 Maybe you mean they should have united with Bulgaria, because it was the strongest country around. Bulgarian language on the other hand is a bit away from Serbo-Croatian. I think that if Bulgaria was part of Yugoslavia, there would have been a constant fighting between Bulgarians and Serbs who is more suitable to run the country.
"Bulgaria's controversial ethnic opinions"
Excuse me, calling this opinion controversial is ridiculous. The fact that most people in Macedonia were Bulgarian is undeniable. The Macedonian ethnicity was invented by Serbs in order to gain more power over the Balkans.
In fact the 20th century is sprinkled all over with small genocides over Bulgarians that were brave enough to call themselves Bulgarian despite the Serbian repressions.
This is true but its other way around - there were Bulgars and Serbs. Tito created Macedonian nation in order to make Serbia weak even more. Bulgarian and Macedonian languanges are similiar enough to be considered same languange basically. Even Serbs from the bordering regions of Bulgaria, for example, Vranje, are using languange that is more Bulgarian than Serbian.
@@feiticeirafatale561 That is because historically the Eastern parts of modern Serbia were inhabited by Bulgarians.
What utter bullshit, before '45 there were no Macedonians (let's ignore their existence for a moment) then came Tito and Abracadabra! everyone turned Macedonian and not just in modern day Macedonia but in neighboring Serbia, Albania, Greece, Bulgaria itself and the diaspora overseas. Tito was indeed a very powerful sorcerer! Although for some reason his magic failed to convert 20k Bulgarians in Serbia.
It's truly past time for Bulgaria to stop it's racist and discriminatory policy towards Macedonia and the Macedonian people and enter the 21st century.
@@Miloshmkd grow up
@@pakoti96 Eastern Serbia was inhabited by Serbs. Bulgaria was also inhabited by Serbs.
Nicely done. Thank you
This would make a great Alternate History scenario.
Do it
Huh, fancy meeting you here ^^
Waiting for it 😀
Yeees pleeeaaasse make a video on it
1991: Extra wild edition
I always shiver when english speaking people pronounce slavic words :-)
I'm married to a Bulgarian. The amount of times my last name has been butchered is unbelievable. Or the amount of times I have explain where it is and no, it's not Russian.
"Carsss-đorđevickss" is how he pronounces Karađorđević and I find that hilarious. He also says "Croats" like "Crots" and isn't even a Slavic word hahah. He did no research in the pronounciation of these words, it's sad but it's a good laugh.
@@jessicaetrifonov369 I feel ya sis, when I usually visit Cymru (Wales) all my friends finally managed to pronounce my name, for the rest I give an allies, don't wanna be butchered as well, eventhough, my name is indeed very very old, pagan one nothing to do with slavic, but still ^^
There are no such thing like nord Macedonian. Is a KGB invention, and "Macedonian" are in fact Bulgarians.
Like Republic of Moldova, which in fact is East Moldova, because the other half, West Moldova is in Romania, and the ex Soviet East Moldova has KGB invention of "Moldovian" language who in fact is just Romanian language.
No mate I’m from north Macedonia 🇲🇰 and I exist it’s obvious open your eyes. Doesn’t matter how long, you can’t deny us. This coming from a guy who pretty aware of living in the shithole country. That’s the case of all surrounding countries, you acting like your Germany
@@sotirangelovski4080 At least the countries around Germany recognise the German language as official like Belgium, Austria (who are Austrians but speak German) that’s basically what we want. You can be Macedonians but don’t deny history and twist it just how you like it.
You got a answer for my question which randomly pop in my mind at 3 pm. Thank you kind sir xD
Because Stalin didn't like a union of albania and bulgaria with Yougoslavia....that would have made a new european power and less influence for them in the balkans
Actualy stalin wanted to incorporate, or even order yugoslavia to invade albania, but Hoxha didn't like the "yugoslavization" that was happening in albania, so he kinda worstened the yugo-albanian relationship
@@En35._.04 until the stalin tito split hoxha was in good terms with tito...but the moment the split came he was 100% on his terrible idol's side
@@LuanZeqiri1 yep
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@@ferdinantshametaj2475 shumica qe e shohin videon nuk jane shqiptare prandaj vella
its also worth mentioning the 2nd Balkan War, WWI and WWII were all things that contributed to this as a sort of history background alongside the soviet union differences, i doubt they would want to be apart of a united country that they were warring with for a while
Never underestimate the capabilities for rootlessness, national betrayal and social engineering of a communist. Especially of the leader of the Communist International. Hint: The Bled agreement of 1947 between Dimitrov and Tito.
And 90s
It is pretty obvious - Bulgarians had nothing to do with Serbs to being with. The question is not as much political or geographical as it is cultural.
Only political!
@@krasimirparvanov8139 Bulgaria have noting whit Austro-Hungary and Russia too?! Hahaha Russian knjaz and Austrian king razed Bulgaria as imperial colony.
@@janeza382 eeh??
Bulgaria have noting whit Austro-Hungary and Russia too?! Hahaha Russian knjaz and Austrian king razed Bulgaria as imperial colony.
@@krasimirparvanov8139 Culture came from Macedonia politics come from Romanticized imperialism.
As a Bulgarian I am happy it didn't happen. Not saying that the tyranny of the Eastern Block was better option, but the rivalry between us and the Serbs had started a lot before the Ottoman invasion of the Balkans. We had our own conflicts that existed even before the formation and the growth of the Russian Empire. And about our so called "prime minister" Georgi Dimitrov, I cannot recognize him as a Bulgarian, he was just one slave of the communist international, one of the biggest, maybe even the biggest of all national traitors that we have had throughout our history.
Tito said to Stalin: "Stop sending people to kill me. We've already captured five of them, one of them with a bomb and another with a rifle, If you don't stop sending killers, I'll send one to Moscow, and I won't have to send a second."
🤣
Tito sent one to Moscow in 1953... :)
Wow! The myth is created!
if they wanted to kill tito they could do it easy even the nazis.i belive that guy was protected by all sites
@@user-ci7vu7eo9w No, Tito was just that OP and unlike Stalin that had practically 0 military experience - Tito had bucketloads of it.
"Why wasn't Bulgaria a part of Yugoslavia?"
Shortest answer:They were smart...
As someone who live in one of former Yugoslav countries,I just can imagine what kind of bloody mess it would be if Bulgaria was part of Yugoslavia(Even bloodier than it was in reality)
No not really. Bulgaria wouldn't be ethnically diverse as BIH and Croatia so there wouldn't be big minorities that try to get independence like "Republika sprska" or "Republika Kraijna"
The only fights that I see, are maybe in macedonia like the albanians
@@bosanski_Cevap the only ones trying to get independence were actually the former republics, Krajina and Republika Srpska actually wanted to stay within Yugoslavia and thats why the war happened, they even boycoted the referendum.
@@mdza I meant independence from BIH and croatia
Well, Bulgaria was and still is a bloody mess. Serbs or not, we're pretty good at making our own life complicated (not that I deny the same skill to our good neighbours...)
I dont know if ”they were smart”. Stalinism was far worse than Titoism. Yougoslavia had a far better economy, development and freedom when compared to Bulgaria.
Actually, the Serbian country is created by the Bulgarian Kingdom. The first kings and princesses were mainly from Bulgaria and they speak our language
Your language was Bulgarian back then, but simply we say "Cyrillic"
I need to clarify that Serbian Dominance happened only after Tito died, had Tito lived longer or had he prepared someone capable as his replacement - the Yugoslav Civil War would have been avoided entirely. Consequently, the main reason Macedonia left Yugoslavia was it's reluctance to get involved in the war.
The simple answer: We didn't want to get stabbed in the back again.
We aren't Bulgarians to do that
@@alektzar8064 1885
@@alektzar8064 Actually Serbia First broke the peace agreement, when we just get the freedom again, and attack us in the back. That's why Serbia paid really hard about this.
Serbia fucked up in 1885 and 1913 and wasn’t punished as it deserved
Depends on who's "we" - Dimitrov and his gang were quite prepared to get in bed with Tito, under Stalin's approving eye. What this video forgot to mention was the Bled agreement of 1947, between Dimitrov and Tito, which was the first step towards the merger of the two countries. In that regard, Dimitrov began preparing the Blagoevgrad region to be transferred to the federal republic of Macedonia and also began the well-known forceful (but fortunately short-lived) Macedonization campaign here. There are also suggestions that the plan also included Bulgaria being broken to artificial Shoppish, Thracian and Dobrudzhan republics. If Tito and Stalin had kept their relations better, our communists would have been quite proud to stab us in the back, on behalf of Belgrade and Moscow, in the name of internationalism.
Serbian royal family the Cars giorgi viks XD
Hello from me the Mile oven oviks :)
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the worst pronouciation i've heard from any foreigner omg
@@djordjerasic7482 The Khrowetess and the Kurrahhgkjorjgkevitsssckdkcix are really good man. He also doesnt talk enough about Yugoslav Monarchist Druhzharuch Meehuhyeeloheivetschk.
Bulgaria is the oldest country on Balkans - created 681 . It has nothing to do with Ygoslavia. Yugoslavia was an enemy by then .
in Europe
@jorgan Kharn Македонија јесте једна од најстаријих именованих регија Европе, али као земља, она пре 1945. никада није постојала. Македонија као потенцијални државотоврни појам настаје 1945, а као држава настаје 1991. Тако да, Вардарска Макоеднија, као заиста суверена и независна држава тренутно броји 30 година! Срећно јој било да ствара велику у дугу историју попут српске, бугарске и грчке!
@jorgan Kharn Honestly, I can't tell whether this is sarcastic or not....
@@dianairincheva9063 no not in Europe
@@dovmindah806 technical they are right bcs we both are the same if Macedonians think Bulgaria is Macedonia and Bulgaria thinks Macedonia is Bulgaria why don't we get together combine the names and call it there
You did not mention the Bulgarian president who had made a deal with Tito for Bulgaria to join Yugoslavia. Everything had been agreed and ready with Bulgaria even agreeing to let parts of their western boarder (Pirin) back to Macedonia, but after the Soviet Union found out about this, they had him assassinated and replaced with Todor Hristov, who had the complete opposite stance twords Yugoslavia and Macedonia
Ok long story short: almost happened. Dimitrov and Tito wanted it. Stalin vetoed it. Some say it was his ego as he didn't sanction it but most likely, it was beneficial to keep an extra vote in the UN Assembly. Period.
@Khan Sevar who cares what the population wants.
Russia has never ever wanted a strong Balkan state. Because they have always wanted the Straits for themselves. That's how San Stefano Bulgaria fell apart, that's how the Balkan Wars ended with defeat for Bulgaria, and so on. Bulgaria being a weak puppet state has always been the end goal. Bulgaria being a key part of Yugoslavia means it's not a weak puppet state anymore.
That being said, Bulgarians are also a little too proud to become part of Yugoslavia, historically speaking. But that's another question.
I know an old Serb Yugoslav Army vet who grew up during WW2 he fled from Serbia to Bulgarian controlled Macedonia as they weren't mass killing people like every military organization in Serbia
That's crazy. Why were they mass killing people?
@@skyhappy it was WW2 Chetniks where killing Communists, the Communists were killing Chetniks and Nazis while the Nazis were killing everything
@@RADIZ2013 You forgot to add to that mix.
1) Hungarians
2) Bulgarians
3) Germana
4) Italians
5) Albanians
6) Croats
7) Zbor royalists who worked for the occupationional "Government of national salvation"
@Kabo Torko a Serbian who served in the Yugoslav army
@@RADIZ2013 neither chetnicks nor partisans mass murdered ppl in ww2.Those were the nazis or the fascist croats/albanians/bulgarians.
Wonderful video.
Bulgaria would have never considered being a part of such an alliance in the first place, neither there is any historical deviance that it did (to my knowledge). The reason is not the communist relations with Russia, but more deeper issues between the countries on the Balkans. Some of those issues can be traced back to the medieval ages and unfortunately has been amplified during 20th century and are still on the table even nowadays. Nevertheless a political alliance between the Balkan countries is an idea that simply needs to happen, but the time for that is still to come.
In Bulgarian schools today we learn Ivan Vazov's poem about the serbo-bulgarian war and therefore every young Bulgarian knows about our history.
they played it smart Ivan...being governed by the Serbs was not an option!
Bulgaria is neither Yugoslav nor Bulgarian
It belongs to Liechtenstein
Нищо не принадлежи на Лихтенщайн
Nope, belongs to North Korea/Cuba
@Khan Tervelyou mean the opposite
You are everywhere
Bruh it belongs to me
Ah yes, the Kingdom of Serbs, Krauts and Slovenes.
Germany doesn't like it when its territory is disconnected though... Tends to cause world wars.
Those Germans are up to something again?
Never thought 💭 about this to begin with anyways!!!
It is interesting
Thanks, Knowledgia. 👍
As a bulgarian i love my serbian brothers
We are good neighboors now🤘
We love you too 🇧🇬🇷🇸🇧🇬🇷🇸
X - Doubt
@Radical Bulgar Ok bot na*i
As a brother I love my Serbian Bulgarian
Yugoslavia: *collapses*
Bulgaria: 😎🍸
@jorgan Kharn lol, stop trolling plz
@jorgan Kharn ok what is the difference between Macedonians being bulagarian and bulagarian being Macedonia
@jorgan Kharn but our macedonian language and the bulgarian language are so similar..
The truth will set you free.
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Actually the we bulgarians were the first to support the independence of macedonia as a country technically we didn't really want macedonians combining with serbians
@Jordan & Jordan
Bait
Well actually after WII, Bulgaria was on its way joining Jugoslavia, following the Comintern orders. Even the bulgarian population of the so called Pirinska Macedonia was forced to get identified officially as "macedonians", so that it would act as a gift to the new union. Luckily, the break up between Tito and Stalin put an end of this utopia. Otherwise the 90-s Jugo wars would be even more bloodier.
WII? World 2?
Possibly, but the introduction of Bulgaria could've further weakened Serbia's position in the union, forcing it to relent many more issues to other constituent republics. In other words, the Yugoslav wars could've simply not happened due to the pressure the Bulgarians could've exerted onto the eastern Serbian border.
@@yanowic9107 , considering Bulgaria and Serbia had 4 wars in less than 70 years (1885, 1913, 1915, 1941) what I do believe is that such a union wouldn't last long considering that at that time Tito was in a superior position, Serbia was a WW2 winner after all. At that time there were too much wounds unhealed for both sides.
Just asking for some research, if you might? In the 1886 there was project about the unification of Bulgaria and the Romanian Kingdom. Carol the first of Hohenzollern wanted to make a pact with Prince Alexander Battenberg. To form the romanian-bulgarian confederate constitution. But the Czar of Russia and main powers, weren't agreed to sign the pact. So it forgotten. Bulgaria used to be a Kingdom twice also helped to vanquish the Huns from former Dacian lands.
@Bulgarian Lion True also helped to shape what is today Romania.
5:25 Together with Yugoslavia, Albania was also expelled from the block. These two countries are the only ones which have no direct connection with USSR by land or sea. Harder to manage than the others.
Albania = Italy, Bulgaria = Tatars/Ru, YU=Allied/West If we formed a Balkan Unity the whole Europe would shit itself.
Serbia: Macedonians are South Serbs
Bulgaria: Macedonians are Western Bulgarians.
Macedonians: Maybe we're Greeks :D
They are Bulgarians! ;)
The Serbo-Croatians always claimed that they are distinct. Bulgaria and Greece claim them Bulgarian and Albania claims their eastern provinces
Well it is not that easy to say first of all people that live in skopje and north and west are Serbs according to ottoman records and linguistics, while in the east they are probably bulgars as the most of vmro members came from those parts of macedonia. There were armed bands of pro serbian and pro bulgarians fighting prior to liberation. Now that said that it was 100 years ago, and today macedonians have their country for almost 30 years, and they did create some sort of special identity for themselfs, and they did have some notions of separate identity even before ww2.even today Serbia is much more sympatized than Bulgaria, maybe only in the east of macedonia they like bulgars more. Only thing that is for certain is that they are not ancient macedo-greeks because they are slavs same as serbs and bulgars. Both serbia and bulgaria ruled the teritory during medieval times serbia for longer and more recent than bulgaria.The language is really something between serbian and bulgarian for me closer to serbian but it is my opinion since i am a fluent speaker of both, yet again i have notised that in east of macedonia it is more bulgarised. Today macedonia is torn in so many ways first of all greeks dont recognize the name , bulgars don't recognize the language and serbs don't recognize the macedonian orthodox church. On top of everything albanian minority grew a lot in last 30 years and they want more independance. Long story short that teritorry was always between greeks , serbs and bulgars and therefore all of them conduct certain influence on the teritory and it shall be interesting to see how will macedonia evolve in future
@Pesho Goshevski Прав си за всичко!
@@rockyrakovica603 Well, the Slavs of FYROM are documented in the history in many document through out the world that are Bulgarians, there are enough maps, showing that before 1945, the Macedonians identified as Bulgarians, as far for the language - A west Bulgarian dialect, that uses the Serbian version of Cyrillic and some Serbians loanwords, and that's because Macedonia was part of Yugoslavia for a long time!
Hi guys, im Crowt
Im crowt too
@@luka-px9jp Hi Crowt, Im Dad!
Cool im 15% crowt from my grandma
OK... But the question is not if you are a ''Crowt'' but if you are a sauerkraut xD
@@dominges crowt-croatian, we were saying crowt cuz this dude cant spell croat.
Bulgaria was miles ahead in terms of military strength, should've just taken Macedonia by force...
Trebala je da je smela. 😀
Yes, Bulgarian tank is a yogurt and a helmet a kichen boul
@@Agent-wp3yi The hate that you give doesnt change the fact that Bulgaria was a military power at the time.
@@stefanveselinovic9874 Smela , a?I may show you historical proove that Bulgaria has conquered Serbia or portions of it through the centuries many times.
didn't they try that and lose before
Why join a Serbia-dominated alliance? The Serbs invaded Bulgaria in 1885 (and had their butts kicked) and later wiped out many thousands who considered themselves Bulgarians - both in their territory and in Macedonia.
I think one additional factor is that Stalin and Tito didnt like eachother from the start and giving Bulgaria to him would only strengthen Tito.
Yugoslavia was formed after WW1, neither Tito or Stalin were leaders
@@ISCARIOTSHIELD kingdom of yugaslavia has nothing to do with communist yugaslavia
Bulgaria was not a puppie to be given to someone but is a undepend country we consider us to be the bosses on the balkans not the serbs that we ve beat at many wars and because of Europe they are not parth of Bulgaria because Serbia was ocupated by Bulgaria in the serbo bulgarian war 1885 also in the first world war and the second , in the medieval history Serbia also was a bulgarian province , the Soviets wanted Bulgaria to be parth of the Soviet Union even the bulgarian comunist wanted that and is almost happen but the bulgarians revolted we worship our independence to much , and we see Macedonia as our provincion also in modern time because they are bulgarians speaking bulgarian the prophaganda of Stalin and serbian comunist created Macedonia this country dont exist since the roman counquest of the balkans and modern macedonians dont have nothing to do with them !!!
@TheSharpboy exactly,this guy failed to mention the Bled agreement(Tito and Dimitrov signed a deal that will unite yugoslavia and bulgaria,and give MACEDONIA its PIRIN part back.),however Stalin wanted to have ports in the black sea and adriatic sea and things went south.
@Misael Gjorgievski 😂
@knowledgia love your video format!!
greetings from Slovenia to my fellow Serbians and Crowts
I knew a half Austrian half Slovenian girl a few years ago. She said it was a mistake Slovenia joining Yugoslavia. She looked like Slovenian volleyball player Eva Mori. She said there was a huge difference in development between Slovenia and with Serbia, Bosnia, Macedonia, Kosovo, and Montenegro. Plus culturally and ethnicity. As at 1918 when the kingdom Serbs, Croats and Slovenes , Slovenians had a literacy rate of 92%, however the average literacy rates in Serbia, Macedonia, Bosnia was under 10%. Kosovo virtually 100% illiteracy rate. Slovenia despite being the smallest state provided 30% of the income of Yugoslavia. Only Croatia was similar to Slovenia, that is northern Croatia. She pointed out Slovenes were part of German kingdom's for over a thousand years starting with the Duchy of Bavaria under the Frankish Carolingian empire part of the Holy Roman Empire in the 8th century ending with the Habsburg empire in 1918.
Slovenes are actually a unique case: they are a mostly Germanic people who speak a Slavic language. They have nothing to do with the Serbs or even the Croats.
As for the Bulgarians, they are no Slavs either, but an Iranian people (not Turks or Asians)....so yes, such an union would not have lasted long....
@@grundgesetzart.1463 Lana Scuka:
www.modenanoi.it/uploads/pallavolo/universal_volley/_resized/w655_scuka.png
Eva Mori:
i.imgur.com/0tRQVnu.jpg
Two Slovenian volleyball players, that their look is very common in Slovenia.
Yugoslavia: We will take whole balkans
Bulgaria: lol such a boomer
Yugoslavia: "collapse"
Macedonia: Ja sum MAKEDONEC
Greece: WTF
Bulgaria: From where did that came from now?
Serbs: "laugh at them and eat popcorn"
Yugoslavia didn't have aspirations to take all of Balkans but to unify all of South Slavs into a greater South Slavic State and it did, which is pretty much most of Balkans.
It lasted from 1918-1991 and that's it. Everything else is history.
Actually Serbs didn't create the Macedonian nation, the Croats(Titoists) did. When Serbs ruled Yugoslavia(1918-1941) they made efforts to assimilate Macedonians(Bulgarians) into Serbs, not to create a separate nation.
During SFRY(Titoist Yugoslavia) Serbs suffered the same fate with (part of)Montenegrins and Bosnians, essentially new quasi-ethnic groups created from the Serbian ethnos, in the same manner Macedonians were created from Bulgarians by the Croat communists.
@@jimenezablain Yes to unity but more is not really. It is cuter to say that is for a better cause. The same as to Japanese empire in WW2 they didn't have a real claim to invade Thailand and to have a proper explanation to their people, so they just did quietly. Serbia is toxicly nationalistic from the very begining, they didn't fight to free "serbs" in Macedonia as there were none as majority, their goal was to have a border to the eagean sea when Austria-Hungary was a thing.
@@Porkeater2610957 Yes, it is so more or less. The Comintern was the one that gave final shape of the Macedonian nation. Pretty much the same receipt was applied to formation of Montenegrin nation and Bosniac Muslim nation by the same Yugoslav titoist comitee after 1945. Good point.
@@vasil.kamdzhalov Serbs, Greeks and Romanians would percieve some of Bulgarian nationalist exclusive toxicity throughout the 20th century.
If Serbia invaded parts of South Serbia, Kosovo and Macedonia then Bulgarians invaded Thrace, Macedonia, Greeks as well, while fighting the Ottomans.
Why do you use double standards only to fit aspirations of your own nation ?
It would be fairer to have some historical objectivity on this matter don't you think ?
The forementioned parallel with the imperial Japan is simply out of common sense.
Short answer: because it was going to happen in a manner that differs from Stalin’s plan. You should have go trough the treaty of Bled, soon after which Dimitrov died in Moscow. Stalin wanted Balkan federation but not with Tito in charge.
Stalin wanted to have weapons in the Balkans, and he did it.
Bulgaria was not part of the Soviet Union, but the most advanced weapons of Soviet union was produced in Bulgaria. ANd Soviets created a deffence line against Turkey, that lasted till Bulgarian joined EU in 2007.
After that, they removed that deffence line, which had Tanks under the ground...... so the REFUGES FROM AFRICA CAN CROSS IT FREELY.
The boarders and deffences were removed so the NGO can freely transfer people in Europe....
Bulgarian-Turkey Boarder is the 2nd in the World, after USA-Mexico boarder.
I bet you didnt know that :P
Because we did not want to get stabbed in the back again, as our Serbian brothers did in 1885 and before that during the 1840s when we rebelled against the Ottoman Empire several times and our Serbian brothers did not nothing g to help us and even helped the ottoman forces as they stopped our rebels to find shelter in their free land. Later we attacked them, as well. But now let's work together.🤝
It's tzar, and not"car", and please check for more valuable sources. Honestly, when I looked at the names that you sent special thanks at the end, I am not sure I saw any Slavic or Bulgarian name... Even these guys are knowledgeable, I didn't saw anywhere your resources or are sources. And the real history was not exactly you explained. Maybe you need to check further. I do understand that each nation would like to be as a hero or at least as a clever one, but surely it wasn't like that in reality. Sorry.
And Bulgaria has nothing in common with ex Jugoslavia. Only tge regime, and the Macedonian people were Bulgarian people, there is much more to learn and to read, in order to propaganding such things. The PanSlavic, or PanSlavianin federation was one of the craziness of Stalin, who together with then BG prime minister Georgi Dimitrov agreed to create such things, after Dimitrov send there many BG people, in order to create a new nation. This man was one of the biggest national traders! And much much more facts...
We were never bulgarians
You are not Slav sodon`t disturb. Car is car. Write asyou say. That is Serbo-Croates language. Speak or write in serbs language and everyone will understand. Exccept idiots.
You hate to be part of Yugoslavia but you want from Macedonia to be part of Bulgaria. They aren`t so stupid at all.
Not even once mentioning the tense relationships between the Balkan nations prior WW2, that culminated in war...
Bulgaria is not made to be part of this artificial state Yugoslavia.
@jorgan Kharn Одите при тато ви Тито! 😂
Точно България си е България, силна и Велика.
Simple, Bulgaria fought with the Nazis, whereas large parts of Yugoslavia fought against. Post war, Bulgaria was re-educated by the USSR . Meanwhile, Yugoslavia maintained its neutrality. Either way, the slavic balkan area tends to fracture. What would be more likely is North Macedonia (slavic country of Macedonia) and Bulgaria uniting, akin to Romania and Moldavia. They have more similar language but history has torn them apart and made historical commonalities less relevant.
Macedonia and Bulgaria uniting...I don't know where you're from, apparently you're not from anywhere near those states or the Balkan peninsula, so please stop meddling into things that you don't understand and spewing misinformed assumptions.
Bulgaria was forced to side with the Nazis since they just marched their armies in... Same with communism - the Red Army just marched in, so the government surrendered instead of engaging in a war they were sure to lose.
Narrator: Kingdom of Serbs, CROTS and Slovenes
Westerners still don t realise how easy it is to start a war in the Balkans..... a war in the comments has already begun...
So for short, the bulgarians did not approve serbian dominance, they claim north macedonians as bulgarians and those 2 had different regimes.
Plus, they were more East-oriented.
@@LEFT4BASS Yup, but Yugo was never really west oriented, Tito was a founding member of the NAM
@@LEFT4BASS Yugoslavia was neither west nor east, but actually both orriented, though they recieved a lot of money from USA during cold war in order for Yu never to join the Warsaw Pact, thats why life was good in yu in 60s and 70s
@@mdza I’m saying the Bulgarians were more East orientedZ
The Bulgarian killed Yugoslav King Alexander and French Prime Minister Louis Barthou in Marseilles during his visit to France because Serbia and France had very close relations. The assassination was planned in Rome by Ante Pavelić, head of the Croatian Ustaše, in August 1934. Pavelić was assisted by Georg Percevic, a former Austro-Hungarian Armed Forces officer.
The answer is pretty clear! We have strong national identity. We are 1400 years old country with great history so there was no way we could've joined Yugoslavia... Not to mention the wars we fought against them (we winned them all). Its just impossible. Its like to put russians and americans in the same country...
(you lost them all)
@@vasilijeglusica7472 1885 Serbo-bulgarian war... Serbia attacks 7 years old country (since the slavery)... in the back. Bulgarian armies were in the turkish border... they crossed the whole country without brake so they could safe they re families! Do you know whats funnier on the serbo-bulgarian border the serbs didnt managet to brake trough and the main bulgarian forces arrived and the attack from the serbs became to a deffence which they lost! Serbs capitulated and Bulgaria didnt took any states or terytories from that war
Actually, a lot of Russian migrated to America. America is not a good example: all nations went there.
@@ionbrad6753 Murica is a melting pot..... no matter where you come from, you are american!
@@filipgatev7661 The only reason why we didn't take any territories is because of Austria-Hungary.
Because Bulgaria was STRONGER than whole Yugoslavia!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It would be interesting to also explain why Bulgaria didn’t join the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes in the first place in 1918.
Why would they do that? Since Serbs, Croats and Slovens originate their culture, religion, language, alphabet, Churches and so on from Bulgarians ><
THey had to Join the Bulgarian Tzardom, not the opposite >
Countries that want Yugoslavia back: everyone
Countries that doesn't want Yugoslavia back: Yugoslav countries
You got it.
Not true. Many of the older generation in my country who lived when Yugoslavia existed want it back, including my grandfather who is a big Yugoslavian fanatic.
Italians are very happy without it.
@@polimpiastro9857 Yes, for their football team.
Not true...most people actually do ...even in Slovenia..google "jugonostalgia")
Referendum questions were make that you would off course put YES
In Macedonia it was
"Are you for a sovereign and independent state of Macedonia, with a right to enter into any alliance with sovereign states of Yugoslavia?"
WHo would not vote Yes..
Actually, the soviet plan after wwii was to create a federal state with Yugoslavia, bulgaria, and northern greece.
The plan failed because bulgaria had had a long standing rivalry with Yugoslavia, Tito wanted to dominate that union and in 1947 broke up with the Soviets, and the Greek communist party was defeated by the Greek army in the civil war the former initiated in order to break greece into two parts (like germany, Korea or vietnam).
Long anti-Communist Greek might!
KROUTS! KarageorgeviKs! Nice video, which would benefit greatly if you were to do some basic research of how to pronounce some KEY names in it ;)
The fact that on the maps is referred as North Macedonia (which is the official name following Prespa Agreement) the narrator keeps referring it as Macedonia. In case you are not aware of the issue, the Macedonia naming dispute started in the early 90s, following the breakup of Yugoslavia. The Greeks did not accept the Skopjie country to be named after Macedonia, since Macedonia was a wide region that was including parts of Greece, Croatia, NM and Bulgaria and it's spoken language had been to be a Doric dialect of the ancient Greek language. The region of the largest part of the northern Greek is also called as Macedonia since Pella (the capital of the Macedonian Empire) is in the modern Greece.Anyway, it might look like a minor error not adding the ''North'' when referring to North Macedonia, yet the history behind that is deeper than it seems to be.
Part of Croatia ? That country "Skopjle" is an independent country since 1945 with name Macedonia, the thing is gayreeks were to afraid to go against slavs so patiently wait until YU collapse and then hit on the week ppl from Macedonia, same goes with Tataro Mongols from bulgaria
@@gige5138 Established by nazis. Nevermind. As for mentioning Greece going against weak people, the borders hasn't change since then. Greece just raised questions regarding the name, not the country itself. Good luck with the Identity crisis, since even North Macedonia is not enough for you.
@@gige5138 he talked about hellenic ancient state of Macedonia, not the modern country.
Thank you so much for this nice Video!!!❤️❤️🇧🇬
Can you pls do a video of The First Bulgarian and second Bulgarian Empire?😍😍
@BorsMann what da fuck😂
Наистина ли искаш видео от тоя идиот? Къде е ползата за теб от това историята да се представя по такъв невеж начин?
@BonsMans Зашто да не очекува, тоа е вистината.
@@internationalbolshevik234 Разликата между крал "king" и цар "tzar" е много проста. Крялят е западен владетел - в повечето случай подчинен на папата. Царят не е. Ако трябва да ги сравним, цярят би имал малко повече власт от краля. В английския език думата "Tzardom" не е много използвана, затова се налага думата "Empire", макар и технически да е грешен термин.
@@ivanbalabanski2942 Това не е вярно. Цар идва от Цезар и е равно на император. Освен „цар“, от името на „божествения Цезар“ се извеждат и титлите „кайзер“ (Kaiser) - германският император и „кесар“ (καίσαρ) във Византия.
There was another reason. The proposed union was to be 1:1 Yugoslavia-Bulgaria from Bulgarian side and Yugo's proposal was 1:7 i.e. Bulgaria to be one of the seven republics. That was pretty big impass while both sides were negotiating and ofc the Stalin-Tito split in 48 ended all the talks.
THank GOD.
Stalin saved Bulgarian then.....
Thats why a City in Bulgaria was called ,,Stalingrad" for very short time :P
WOW ...Smart Serbs they wanted Bulgaria to be one of the 7 republics which they will dominate..Bulgaria was too smart for that...anyway Bulgaria had the largest population of any of the republics if they even thought of joining and why would they...they could go it alone andif they joined they probably would be dominated by the Serbs and the Russian educated /tutored dictator Tito So in the end smart choice for no doing it.
While all of this makes sense, probably the most important reason is national identity. While Bulgaria is a slavic nation, the originators of the modern slavic language and cyrilic alphabet in fact, the bulgarian ethnicity is not only slavic. Bulgaria was created in 681 when step tribes from beyond the Danube crossed it. Over the next hundreds of years the mingled with the slavic tribes and greek speaking natives of the balkans to create this new Bulgarian ethnicity which was different than the more slavic centered serb croat and slovene tribes in the west balkans. Over the next thousand years bulgarians established themselvs as slavic nation of its own with a separate identity from the ones west of it.
A lot of scrap in this video. There has been such a project for joining Bulgaria called Balkan Federation instead of Yugoslavia. Bulgaria agreed but Stalin was against that. The result of that project was the invention of the Macedonian nation. The History revealed that such projects are non-sustainable especially talking about the Balkans where nationalism is a good word. The Europeans would hardly understand thinking of Balkan peoples.
Please, Europe is the same as the Balkans, just on a slightly larger scale. We here are just a mini version of the same things that have happened between France and Germany, or France and England for example...
For the ones that didn't know it - there was a bulgarian committee for Serbian-Bulgarian union just before the Russian-Turk war. They offered to accept the Serbian king for bulgarian king as well. It was acknowledged and accepted by some Serbian diplomats, but it was not by the king. Serbia was afraid of Macedonia ending as part of the Bulgarian state of the federation. This was the first Macedonian question that divided us from a union. Evlogy and Hristo Georgiev were part of that bulgarian committee for creating a Serbian-Bulgarian kingdom.
I think it's a good reason.
That time Serbian leaders thought in union Bulgarians would easier influence Macedonia, and after union end, Macedonia would be part of Bulgaria, or at least few steps closer to that status.
Also, there were Teheran '43 and Yalta '45 where US, GB and USSR negotiated influence zones.Yugoslavia was 50/50, Bulgaria was 100% USSR zone.Doubt they would allow some unions on their zones.
@@aleksandarcvetkovic5436 Second Bulgarian and Serbian medieval kingdoms were very close just before the Ottomans and Serbians and Bulgarians were living together in the same towns and villages for centuries.
@@alexthetruth5945
Yeah, but it was in medieval period.
Several hundreds of years passed since than.
More than one circumstance changed.
@@aleksandarcvetkovic5436 Yup, the only chance for a federation or common kingdom with Serbia and Bulgaria was around the uprisings between 17-19 centuries. There were even mixed uprisings and some mixed literacy, like Zherafovic who writes about his Bulgarian fatherland and beloved Serbian country in the same book :D After that it was not people or just circumstances, it was politics and geopolitics that came into play and their interest was to divide us into even smaller pieces.
@@alexthetruth5945 Medieval kingdoms were not based on nations or ethnicities. Nationalism came later on.
Short answer: Bulgaria was already a major power in the region and joining a union that is somewhat Serbian superior will mean degrading. Also having a country that extends from Trieste to Istanbul will mean a European power, which to the west and east is a big no. Now, imagine North Macedonia becomes part of Bulgaria. Macedonian Politicians wouldn't want to be assimilated in Bulgarian politics. It's all a big propaganda and Mafia..
Yugoslavia under Tito was not Serbian controlled. Bulgaria and Yugoslavia started the process of unification with the bled agreement in 1947. The Tito-Stalin split is why they never unified as the soviets threatened Bulgaria if they were to join.
Bulgaria was major power ? hahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaahaha
Yugoslavia was like usa for poor vulgaris you didn't know about coca cola untill 1990
@@Eufrat93 they haven't passports to exit from Bulgaria
@@gfdfgaadfgadfg2309 yep their comunnism was hell we listen rock and heavy metal the didnt knew what is orbit buble gum they first try in macedonia
The world powers learned their lesson:
Byzantium annexed Bulgaria for 2 centuries = Byzantium fell apart
The Ottoman Empire annexed Bulgaria for 5 centuries = The Ottoman Empire fell apart
The Soviet Union annexed Bulgaria for 44 years = The Soviet Union Fell Apart
The Bulgarian province of Macedonia was annexed into Yugoslavia for some 45 years = Yugoslavia fell apart
The European Union annexed Bulgaria in 2007 = The European Union began fragmenting in 2020
And that's all for Danube Bulgaria alone. There's about a dozen more Bulgarias spread around.
While the title promises to bring clarity in a cloudy subject the narrator only makes it more complex and difficult to understand what the case is.
the question is why yugoslavia wasnt part of bulgaria?
Because the "Great Powers" did not want a Strong Germany and Bulgaria in Europe. They are afraid like the devil of incense from the Bulgarian and German patriots.
@Kabo Torko tragedy...
@Kabo Torko learn some history boy
@Kabo Torko We are not talking about Russia, but about the USSR, the Ashkenazi Jesuits and the whole communist-Bolshevik gang, which is the reason for this division and fratricide in Europe and the world. Tajik. Weren't you even a Republic of the USSR?
@Kabo Torko I know that. But, Brother , you simply do not seem to be familiar with the machinations of the Communist Party of the USSR in Europe and the Balkans. They separated brother from brother and sister from sister. Macedonia is now divided into 3 parts and is "neither fish nor cancer", and the young are inspired by the "mind control" of their politicians. "They do not know their history or how they repressed the old Macedonians and Thracians from White Sea Thrace. I know this is because my family are refugees from Edirne after the Ilinden-Preobrazhensk uprising, Serbs and Greeks slaughtered Macedonians and Bulgarians, just as the Turk did not slaughter them ... You just don't seem to be familiar with these things.
I don't know if you did it,but I think you can make a video about yugoslavian wars!
Too much, evenfor Tom Crusie - Mission imposible.
thats straight-up suicide
@@kmeeekk9435 Bosnia was Jerusalem in Evrope - Chatolic, Ortodox and Islam on the same place. With Serbs hegemony. Barrel of powder with short fuse.
Tl;dw Bulgars and Serbs were more equal in power and numbers than Serbs and other Yugoslav ethnicities so a Bulgarian entry into the Union wouldve just been too complicated to handle. Plus differences with regions and sattelitism.
Have a nice day, everyone :)
Bulgars don't exist. They got extinct in 8th century when they mixed with the Slavs and Thracians. Nowadays we are called Bulgarians not Bulgars.
The right question is: "Why is Macedonia not part of Bulgaria?"
Bcs the agreement between Russia and Austro-Hungary
cuz we are not faschist tatars
@@Eufrat93 Сръбско мекере си ти Иване!
@@jollycatman5415 шо мајка ти?
@@Eufrat93 Я, ама ти си можел да говориш български?! :)
Good video dude but your pronunciation of Slavic names needs work.
You are a very polite person, I guess.
Definitely
Because we are Bulgaria. We didn't join USSR as well. You can do video for that too :)
We actually tried to join the USSR. Twice...
Although we were under "communist" dictatorship by Todor Zhivkov for quite a while.
@@user-yl2ts6hn9t Vie oste ste pod diktatura,.Ama ne osiastate,....
@@Djovanini как така
There was initiative for unification between Serbia and Bulgaria in 19th century. Russia opposed it. Germans put their dinasty on you throne and rest is sad history of conflicts.
You may want to check this article: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Neuilly-sur-Seine
The map that you used for Yugoslavia is wrong as Slovenian Istria and part of Croatian Istria are missing
Bulgarians by god, macedonians by tito 🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬
Can you make a video "why the arabs never united in one country?"
They were united in one country under the umayyad dynasty
@@turan_kaya Seriously I am talking nowadays. If it happened in the past why it can't happen now.
@@gillesaboubechara2978 they tried to in the 70s if im not mistaken, problem was deciding which dictator ruled it. They couldnt agree so it fell apart pretty quickly
@@lordmiraak8991 You are talking about the union between Libya and Tunisia if I am not mistaken. Yes but fell apart and I don't know why.
@@gillesaboubechara2978 no im talking about egypt and syria which actually officially united for a small time. Libya and tunisia was based on a united africa and fell apart for the same reason they couldnt agree who would be dictator
Your map of Yugoslavia is incorrect in the west edge, it looks like Italy is extending into west coast of Istria.This applies only for the map of Yugoslavia. The later map with ex.YU countires seems to missing this error...
alot of not correct things
My grandmother from Zagreb had a really biting sense of humor. She was an acerbic Croatian.
Here is why.
By Yugoslavia itself.
Bulgaria was and Yugoslavia was in Leauge of Nations.
For no troubles after WWI.
When WWII ended, then Bulgaria was in Варшавски пакт.
While Yugoslavia leaved the Варшавски пакт, whick meant the Yugoslavia was bad with USSR, Bulgaria was Good woth USSR, Which meant Bulgaria was bad with Yugoslavia.
And there is no diplomacy bettwen countries.
Bulgaria was a closely watched puppet of the USSR and they were on the path of joining Yugoslavia as per the Bled agreement. However the Tito-Stalin split stopped the process. In the end all Bulgarian war debts to Yugoslavia were cancelled and no territory was shifted. Basically Stalin started and ended the incorporation. The modern-day North Macedonia was created by Tito in turn for simple strategic reasons: Serbia lost power, by losing the territory and the people, and Bulgaria lost its cultural and historical ties to the region.
One correction though. Even though there was a Yugoslavia even after 95(think it lasted until 98? 99?), once it changed the name, the union didn't fall apart, it simply changed the name and the flag etc. Was known until 2005 or so as Serbia and Montenegro(SAM or SiCG in our languages). Eventually it all fell apart and everyone went its own way.
Nope, they didnt. Makedonia is the last part of Yugoslavia that exists. They still live under Tito laws and doctrene inclunding the Tito propaganda and History ><
Makedonia still lives in 1970,......
They still believe that they are ,,Ancient Makedons" lol really...
@@goshu7009 From 1 to 10, how dumb are you ?
@@Manchevo You can check makedonians.... if you dont trust me.
They really do... lol i am not lying.