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Really nice recommendation Marcel! It's funny, I also made a full audio recording set for 1000$ ► Zoom H8 - 344 euro( still thinking i should have bought the f3) ► Zoom WSU-1 for the xy stereo 25 euro ► Sennheiser MKE 600 - 266 euro ► Rycote Invision INV-7-HG-Mark III 75 euro ► The sssnake SM6BK cable - 6 euro ► Sony MDR-7506 Headphones- 98 euro ► Sennheiser MZH 600 WIndjammer for MKE 600 - 46 euro ► Rode Mini Boompole - 110 euro And i couldn't resist an bought the Korg CM-300 BK after seeing your video (12 euro). The set is really versatile. I can record Ambiences, sound effects and other interesting sounds. Cheers!
Hey Marcel. Thank you for making this video. I couldn't imagine it in my dreams that your reply would come this way, I am very much delighted. F3 is one of the choices I had, so I'll go with it and now I am also certain for mic. I already have light stand and SD card, so yes rest falls in my budget. Thanks a ton again. More love and power to you.
I purchased the BP4025 and the rycote windjammer. The BBG didn’t fit so I sent it back and realized I could just use the windjammer just as well without it. Also I use the rycote grip lyre mount. I bought a 1/4-20 screw converter and now attach it to a 30$ mini tripods. It’s fantastic!
Do you remember that I bought the BP4025 on your recommendation? It is a great mic that I have used for recording live concerts. Paired with my Zoom H6 or MixPre3ii it is quick to set up. Thank you for the inspiration you give us.
HI Henrik! So glad to hear, that you still use the 4025! We still have it but it didn't made the cut while traveling. So it's in a box right now. :( Thank you for so much for watching!
I’ve bought so many of your recommended gear - BP4025 w/ Rycote Wind Muff, Manfrotto Carbon Stand, Zoom F6, etc. I can’t tell you how much I appreciate you doing all this work testing gear so that people like me can get up and running quickly with great results. Thank you!! The only reason I’d recommend the F6 over the F3 is the native timecode support. I like to jam sync my F6 with my Tentacle Sync E and then use that same Sync E to pump TC into my camera. Then at the end of the day after I’ve downloaded all of my footage, I just sync via TC in Resolve and audio from F6 is perfectly synced with my video footage. This saves me tons of time (and frustration) in my workflow. How do you currently sync all of your clips?
If I cheekily call it £1000 pounds instead of $1000 at current prices in the UK 🇬🇧 from one pro sound shop you could have the large diaphragm BP4025 that I really like 😂 That’s a good selection though and I agree with the F3 it’s a really compact game changer from Zoom and I really like it. Of course you could get more for your money stereo wise if you went for a pair of Lom Usi Pro or more readily available Micbooster EM272 Clippys and a stereo bar but I’d always have and use the Audio Technica it’s just such a good microphone 👍
That is true for sure. Also it makes the kit lighter and smaller when using the Usi or Clippys. But you run into more limitations in higher wind situations so I don't want to include them in this video.
Some kind of equipment bag should also be considered, but hopefully the person will already have something suitable. I really have an issue with the recommended tripod - these things are quite heavy and difficult to walk around with. I'd much rather strongly recommend a compact photo camera tripod, preferably with independently adjustable legs to accommodate various uneven surfaces you inevitably find yourself traversing while exploring environments.
Great advice, great information…. I was willing to do field recording from a long time and your videos really help me a lot..Thank you 😊. Hey man come to INDIA once.I am waiting for that day…
I use a light stand for my audio recording most of the time. It's sturdy and I like to mount my Mix-Pre 3 on a clamp to it while putting the microphone on top. I find the Manfrotto Nanopole to be useful when I need something very light for being mobile but it stays in my car most of the time. I keep going back to these Audio Technica microphones and may wind up picking up one of the two you mentioned in the near future. Also you can't go wrong with the Audio Technica headphones. Nice video.
thank you for another great video like the others. Would you be able to recommend a cheaper best set up for say $500 USD, I already have AKG K271 MkII Studio Headphones. I have started recording videos at the end of my local beach with my cheap Android phone, I can get a few minutes of good enough footage on a calm day with hardly any wind, before background noise from other people overtakes the sounds of the waves and birds chirping in the trees. The Birds are 120 degrees from the waves with the people about 50 meters behind both of these. I am wondering if I could start off with the Zoom H1n plugged into the Rode NTG4+ Premium Shotgun Microphone with Battery. I could record the birds in the trees separately, by getting closer to them and join the 2 audio clips of the waves and the birds. Or do I need to save up the extra money to pair this microphone with the Zoom F3. Or would you recommend another better set-up for my money?
As someone who’s been watching lots of your videos, before I get a first setup: Wouldn’t you miss the 3.5mm mini jack with plug in power, for example for something like a pair of stereo Omni-directional Clippy EM272 mics? I kind of hope Zoom brings out something small and affordable with 32 float like the F3 but with a 3.5 stereo input with PIP (or with a fitting for the detachable mics like the F1 so you could use the XY mic’s PIP input).
I do agree with you on the 3.5mm mini jack and also not having a XLR/¼-inch TRS input is a little bit of a bummer. So I need to purchase an adapter for the Korg CM 300. Always room for improvement. :)
Würde ich jetzt nochmal anfangen, würde ich exakt genauso machen. Gut, bei uns ist der Aufpreis zum BP4025 nicht sehr hoch. Da ich ausschließlich Stereo oder Mono aufnehme, hab ich beim F6 nur den Vorteil, dass ich die Eingänge für die verschiedenen Mikrofontypen vorkonfiguriert habe. 1&2 Clippys (verlinkt), 3 Shotgun, 6 Geofon. Aber es ist einfach super angenehm, z.B. mit einem Stereomikrofon auf einer Angel und einem daran befestigten F3 durch die Gegend zu laufen. Denn es gibt dann ja nur ein Kabel - das vom Kopfhörer. Tolles Empfehlungs-Video. Viel Erfolg weiterhin und viele Grüße aus Mössingen - Til.
HI Marcel, enjoyed the video. A quick question if I may, perhaps an obvious one. I have a Zoom F3, the inputs are labelled 1 and 2- do these correspond to 1 (left) 2 (right)? I use the F3 with an audio technica stereo mic and an m/s shotgun mic, and using the correct input is obviously important. Zoom doesn't mention this at all in their user manual. Thanks
I think the Halter Technical Elite Monitor headphones are a great buy too. They are half the price of the AT m20x but they sound just as good or even better. Unfortunately, they are only available in NA.
Hello Sunny! This is an excellent recommendation. I've never heard of these headphones. A savings of $25 is significant. With that savings, I'd recommend a low-cost contact microphone.
@@FreeToUseSounds ooh! I'd love to hear which one you'd recommend. and yes, Halter Technical are not very well known outside the film circle but are very good.
@@sunnynaguri The Korg CM 300. We made a video about it! ua-cam.com/video/jqiIbCnyPpk/v-deo.html But you need an adapter in order to use it with the F3.
Very nice vidéo. Could you pleqse tell us what is the brand and model of the handle you use with the microphone audio technca BP4025 and the BBG in the vidéo. Many thanks
Hello! I binge watched almost all your videos. Amazing channel. I bought an Audio Technica AT8022 (the cheaper version of the AT4025) and I noticed it having interference issues near LED lights. Does your AT4025 have the same issue or is it just a thing with my cheaper microphone? Tries with a Zoom F3 and with a Tascam X6 and with different cables.
Oh, that's definitely a bummer. :( I can't test it right now because this microphone is back in the States. But I have RF issues with the DPA 5100 and have to send back the unit as well. It's becoming more and more of an issue now.
Hi again! So how much better is the AT8022 compared to the MKE 440? I guess AT8022 is more versatile given its design - and maybe better for indoor use and interviews?
Great video! Have you tried the Shure MV88+ mic?Ive been using it for 3 years mostly for recording live musical performances and haven’t found anything that works better at the phone video level. Does the audio technica mic work with an iPhone? So glad I found your channel! Thank you!
Hi! Lowepro makes affordable bags that will last for years. I still use the one, that I recommend in this video here: ua-cam.com/video/-jcZBurAwKU/v-deo.html On the outside, I can attach my Nanopole. I bought this one in Singapore in 2018 and use it still almost every day. They also make smaller sizes.
@@FreeToUseSounds yeah I was surprised. It might be very limited time but for $400 it's tough to turn down. I appreciate all your content and I have learned so much from you guys.
Thank you! You can use the 8022 with the Zoom H1n since its a battery powered microphone. Maybe I get my hands on one so I could make a video about it. Also, we bought another stereo microphone for our camera. It's the Sennheiser MKE 440. You can listen right here. ua-cam.com/video/oQVZU7KWe1Q/v-deo.html
Absolutely. A blimp offers better protection for microphones because it shields it from all angles. Additionally, its wind cover is more effective than the one from the BBG
Hi! Now you need to ask yourself this question before you go out and buy this microphone, plus cables, blimp etc. Am I okay with ambience recording in mono?
Ah yes for these you would still need two BBG's plus two windjammers for the BBG's right?. What you could do is reaching out to Bubblebees Industries and ask if they have something for these microphones. Something I use in this video here: ua-cam.com/video/6ZByJgNKsBc/v-deo.html. They respond really quick on IG but email is also fine.
Thank you for the suggestions! Curious, if I had a little bit more wiggle room, would the rode nt4 xy at 500 dollars be better than the at8022? Still aiming for environmental sound recordings. Any insight would be awesome, just got my zoom f3 and LOVE how easy it is to use.
@@FreeToUseSounds thanks for the reply! never the less i decided to order the at8022 as i found it used "like new" off amazon for just over 100 bucks off! excited to give it a try. thank you for all that you guys do on this channel!
@@FreeToUseSounds been testing out my used at8022 and it sounds WONDERFUL. literally blown away by the detail of the recordings im getting with it paired with my zoom f3. just wanted to respond with this update and say thank you for the recommendation and this beginners kit you describe in this video is seriously a smart kit for ppl like myself getting started. thank you for all that you do!
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I started with a Sony pcm-m10m and a rode dead kitten 10 years ago. While I have acquired a lot of other equipment, it’s still my grab and go kit.
Could you kindly do videos for different budgets? Like 250,500, 2000 etc?
$250 could be an interesting task. We do some research and see what we come up with.
@@FreeToUseSounds great, check out the Olympus LS-P1/P4 range of recorders. Plus a good 3,5 mm plugin powered microphone and Bob's your uncle 😉
Don't be so humble Marcel, you have incomparably more knowledge and experience than most of us ;) very useful video for beginners!
Thank you so much and so glad to hear you enjoyed the video.
Really nice recommendation Marcel!
It's funny, I also made a full audio recording set for 1000$
► Zoom H8 - 344 euro( still thinking i should have bought the f3)
► Zoom WSU-1 for the xy stereo 25 euro
► Sennheiser MKE 600 - 266 euro
► Rycote Invision INV-7-HG-Mark III 75 euro
► The sssnake SM6BK cable - 6 euro
► Sony MDR-7506 Headphones- 98 euro
► Sennheiser MZH 600 WIndjammer for MKE 600 - 46 euro
► Rode Mini Boompole - 110 euro
And i couldn't resist an bought the Korg CM-300 BK after seeing your video (12 euro).
The set is really versatile. I can record Ambiences, sound effects and other interesting sounds.
Cheers!
That is a really nice setup and thank you for sharing this with us!!!
Love to see a budget ideal kit including blip etc
Hey Marcel. Thank you for making this video. I couldn't imagine it in my dreams that your reply would come this way, I am very much delighted. F3 is one of the choices I had, so I'll go with it and now I am also certain for mic. I already have light stand and SD card, so yes rest falls in my budget. Thanks a ton again. More love and power to you.
So glad to hear it was helpful! :)
I purchased the BP4025 and the rycote windjammer. The BBG didn’t fit so I sent it back and realized I could just use the windjammer just as well without it. Also I use the rycote grip lyre mount. I bought a 1/4-20 screw converter and now attach it to a 30$ mini tripods. It’s fantastic!
B&H is currently including Senal SHX-800 for free with the Zoom F3. That frees up budget.
Do you remember that I bought the BP4025 on your recommendation? It is a great mic that I have used for recording live concerts. Paired with my Zoom H6 or MixPre3ii it is quick to set up. Thank you for the inspiration you give us.
HI Henrik! So glad to hear, that you still use the 4025! We still have it but it didn't made the cut while traveling. So it's in a box right now. :( Thank you for so much for watching!
Yeah, that's a nice little kit for ambience and super portable. I really hope I can get an F3 myself soon. Great video as always.
Thank you so much for stopping by! Still not available in Switzerland??
I’ve bought so many of your recommended gear - BP4025 w/ Rycote Wind Muff, Manfrotto Carbon Stand, Zoom F6, etc. I can’t tell you how much I appreciate you doing all this work testing gear so that people like me can get up and running quickly with great results. Thank you!!
The only reason I’d recommend the F6 over the F3 is the native timecode support. I like to jam sync my F6 with my Tentacle Sync E and then use that same Sync E to pump TC into my camera. Then at the end of the day after I’ve downloaded all of my footage, I just sync via TC in Resolve and audio from F6 is perfectly synced with my video footage. This saves me tons of time (and frustration) in my workflow. How do you currently sync all of your clips?
A vid tutorial on how exactly you do that would be wonderful, kind Sir.
If I cheekily call it £1000 pounds instead of $1000 at current prices in the UK 🇬🇧 from one pro sound shop you could have the large diaphragm BP4025 that I really like 😂 That’s a good selection though and I agree with the F3 it’s a really compact game changer from Zoom and I really like it. Of course you could get more for your money stereo wise if you went for a pair of Lom Usi Pro or more readily available Micbooster EM272 Clippys and a stereo bar but I’d always have and use the Audio Technica it’s just such a good microphone 👍
That is true for sure. Also it makes the kit lighter and smaller when using the Usi or Clippys. But you run into more limitations in higher wind situations so I don't want to include them in this video.
Some kind of equipment bag should also be considered, but hopefully the person will already have something suitable. I really have an issue with the recommended tripod - these things are quite heavy and difficult to walk around with. I'd much rather strongly recommend a compact photo camera tripod, preferably with independently adjustable legs to accommodate various uneven surfaces you inevitably find yourself traversing while exploring environments.
We respect your opinion Marius and thank you for watching!
It's difficult to find a reasonably priced, high quality, lightweight tripod.
@@edwardfletcher7790 Not at all. ~50$ is all you need to find something decent, if not new than used.
@@spectralisation I think that's very dependant on where you live.
@@edwardfletcher7790 Well, all prices are somewhat dependant on where you live. But tripods generally are not that hard to come by.
Great advice, great information….
I was willing to do field recording from a long time and your videos really help me a lot..Thank you 😊.
Hey man come to INDIA once.I am waiting for that day…
Great to hear that! :) Someday! India is huge! Where are you located?
Thank you for taking the time to make this-it has been incredibly helpful!
Thank you for watching!
Love the price range and picks on this. Thank you!
Thank you for watching Bekah!!
Great advices, as always!
Glad you think so! :)
I use a light stand for my audio recording most of the time. It's sturdy and I like to mount my Mix-Pre 3 on a clamp to it while putting the microphone on top. I find the Manfrotto Nanopole to be useful when I need something very light for being mobile but it stays in my car most of the time. I keep going back to these Audio Technica microphones and may wind up picking up one of the two you mentioned in the near future. Also you can't go wrong with the Audio Technica headphones. Nice video.
Thank you! Yes the Nanopole is one of the best equipment that makes my recording life easier. The 4025 is definitely an amazing allrounder.
thank you for another great video like the others.
Would you be able to recommend a cheaper best set up for say $500 USD, I already have AKG K271 MkII Studio Headphones. I have started recording videos at the end of my local beach with my cheap Android phone, I can get a few minutes of good enough footage on a calm day with hardly any wind, before background noise from other people overtakes the sounds of the waves and birds chirping in the trees. The Birds are 120 degrees from the waves with the people about 50 meters behind both of these. I am wondering if I could start off with the Zoom H1n plugged into the Rode NTG4+ Premium Shotgun Microphone with Battery. I could record the birds in the trees separately, by getting closer to them and join the 2 audio clips of the waves and the birds.
Or do I need to save up the extra money to pair this microphone with the Zoom F3.
Or would you recommend another better set-up for my money?
Danke für ihre content
Hola Marcel! And thanks for the insipration!!!
Can you recomend a shootgun mic in a good price?
As someone who’s been watching lots of your videos, before I get a first setup: Wouldn’t you miss the 3.5mm mini jack with plug in power, for example for something like a pair of stereo Omni-directional Clippy EM272 mics? I kind of hope Zoom brings out something small and affordable with 32 float like the F3 but with a 3.5 stereo input with PIP (or with a fitting for the detachable mics like the F1 so you could use the XY mic’s PIP input).
I do agree with you on the 3.5mm mini jack and also not having a XLR/¼-inch TRS input is a little bit of a bummer. So I need to purchase an adapter for the Korg CM 300. Always room for improvement. :)
Thanks!
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Würde ich jetzt nochmal anfangen, würde ich exakt genauso machen. Gut, bei uns ist der Aufpreis zum BP4025 nicht sehr hoch. Da ich ausschließlich Stereo oder Mono aufnehme, hab ich beim F6 nur den Vorteil, dass ich die Eingänge für die verschiedenen Mikrofontypen vorkonfiguriert habe. 1&2 Clippys (verlinkt), 3 Shotgun, 6 Geofon. Aber es ist einfach super angenehm, z.B. mit einem Stereomikrofon auf einer Angel und einem daran befestigten F3 durch die Gegend zu laufen. Denn es gibt dann ja nur ein Kabel - das vom Kopfhörer.
Tolles Empfehlungs-Video. Viel Erfolg weiterhin und viele Grüße aus Mössingen - Til.
Danke Dir Til! Immer wieder schön deine Kommentare zu lesen!! :)
HI Marcel, enjoyed the video. A quick question if I may, perhaps an obvious one. I have a Zoom F3, the inputs are labelled 1 and 2- do these correspond to 1 (left) 2 (right)? I use the F3 with an audio technica stereo mic and an m/s shotgun mic, and using the correct input is obviously important. Zoom doesn't mention this at all in their user manual.
Thanks
I think the Halter Technical Elite Monitor headphones are a great buy too. They are half the price of the AT m20x but they sound just as good or even better. Unfortunately, they are only available in NA.
Hello Sunny! This is an excellent recommendation. I've never heard of these headphones. A savings of $25 is significant. With that savings, I'd recommend a low-cost contact microphone.
@@FreeToUseSounds ooh! I'd love to hear which one you'd recommend. and yes, Halter Technical are not very well known outside the film circle but are very good.
@@sunnynaguri The Korg CM 300. We made a video about it! ua-cam.com/video/jqiIbCnyPpk/v-deo.html But you need an adapter in order to use it with the F3.
Very nice vidéo. Could you pleqse tell us what is the brand and model of the handle you use with the microphone audio technca BP4025 and the BBG in the vidéo. Many thanks
Love the videos. Can you tell me what waterproof equipment you would suggest for a limited budget to record rain and thunderstorms?
Hi Bob! Sorry foe the late reply! Check out Rycote Duck Rain Cover or the Cinela Kelly.
Hello! I binge watched almost all your videos. Amazing channel. I bought an Audio Technica AT8022 (the cheaper version of the AT4025) and I noticed it having interference issues near LED lights. Does your AT4025 have the same issue or is it just a thing with my cheaper microphone? Tries with a Zoom F3 and with a Tascam X6 and with different cables.
Oh, that's definitely a bummer. :( I can't test it right now because this microphone is back in the States. But I have RF issues with the DPA 5100 and have to send back the unit as well. It's becoming more and more of an issue now.
Hi again!
So how much better is the AT8022 compared to the MKE 440?
I guess AT8022 is more versatile given its design - and maybe better for indoor use and interviews?
I think one of the main concern to use the AT8022 as an onboard microphones is the the size, weight, and wind protection.
Great video! Have you tried the Shure MV88+ mic?Ive been using it for 3 years mostly for recording live musical performances and haven’t found anything that works better at the phone video level. Does the audio technica mic work with an iPhone? So glad I found your channel! Thank you!
Hi Barry! I haven't used this microphone yet but it looks nice. Well, it might as long you can find an adapter cable. Interesting experiment for sure.
Can you recommend a bag for this equipment as well? Thanks in advance.
Hi! Lowepro makes affordable bags that will last for years. I still use the one, that I recommend in this video here: ua-cam.com/video/-jcZBurAwKU/v-deo.html
On the outside, I can attach my Nanopole. I bought this one in Singapore in 2018 and use it still almost every day. They also make smaller sizes.
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I love my Zoom F3 but I have noticed the Tascam X8 has dropped in price to $399 at times and almost wish I had that instead.
Wow that is a big drop. I didn't noticed that.
@@FreeToUseSounds yeah I was surprised. It might be very limited time but for $400 it's tough to turn down. I appreciate all your content and I have learned so much from you guys.
Why would you prefer the Tascam? More options?
@@judgeworks3687 the built in microphones would be nice and I believe the Tascam has 4 combo XLR/line in jacks while the F3 has the 2 XLR only.
Very helpful video Marcel, any recommendation for external mic to use on the Zoom h1n ? Thanks
Thank you! You can use the 8022 with the Zoom H1n since its a battery powered microphone. Maybe I get my hands on one so I could make a video about it. Also, we bought another stereo microphone for our camera. It's the Sennheiser MKE 440. You can listen right here. ua-cam.com/video/oQVZU7KWe1Q/v-deo.html
@@FreeToUseSounds thank you so much!!
Hello there: I have 4025 and bought 21 mm bbg. Do you recon if I change it to blimp would be better ?
Absolutely. A blimp offers better protection for microphones because it shields it from all angles. Additionally, its wind cover is more effective than the one from the BBG
@@FreeToUseSounds thanks ☺️ for help
Hello what laptop and specs FOR laptop USD thx
Hey marcel. what do you thing about the rode ntg-2? Is it good to start and for forley/ambiences recording?
Hi! Now you need to ask yourself this question before you go out and buy this microphone, plus cables, blimp etc. Am I okay with ambience recording in mono?
What kind of cheap wind-shield / dead cat cover would you recommend for 2 pencil mics ( basicUcho ) other than Rycote ?
Ah yes for these you would still need two BBG's plus two windjammers for the BBG's right?. What you could do is reaching out to Bubblebees Industries and ask if they have something for these microphones. Something I use in this video here: ua-cam.com/video/6ZByJgNKsBc/v-deo.html. They respond really quick on IG but email is also fine.
Thank you for the suggestions! Curious, if I had a little bit more wiggle room, would the rode nt4 xy at 500 dollars be better than the at8022? Still aiming for environmental sound recordings. Any insight would be awesome, just got my zoom f3 and LOVE how easy it is to use.
Hi Alan! Hmm it could be a nice alternative but we never used this microphone before.
@@FreeToUseSounds thanks for the reply! never the less i decided to order the at8022 as i found it used "like new" off amazon for just over 100 bucks off! excited to give it a try. thank you for all that you guys do on this channel!
@@AlanChunkyMunky Oh wow! You got an amazing deal now. I hope its in top shape! :)
@@FreeToUseSounds been testing out my used at8022 and it sounds WONDERFUL. literally blown away by the detail of the recordings im getting with it paired with my zoom f3. just wanted to respond with this update and say thank you for the recommendation and this beginners kit you describe in this video is seriously a smart kit for ppl like myself getting started. thank you for all that you do!
@@AlanChunkyMunky So glad to hear that and that you like this set up!!! That my our day Alan! :)))
1000 bucks ONLY, ironic