Still the best review on this pouch. Kudos. I'm extremely pissed at Max that they don't offer it in Ranger Green anymore (which is outright daft in my book). They don't even make them in OD anymore.
Not sure if another poster has already chimed in, but the hook you didn’t know the name of is called a HK Hook (referencing the German firearms manufacturer). Well done reviews.
Nice vid I have the Condor version of the 10"x4 - find it has a little more give in it as well as being a lot cheaper (but still very well made) - so if you think the Max Exp puoch is a little expensive there are alternatives out there. I have the Max 12"x5" though as I have not seen anything else that size for my cook set.
Yes. Getting the Condor H2O Carrier is the only way to go, unless you have far too much money to spend :-) Half the price but still very decent quality.
Condor make a 10"x 4" bottle pouch Much less expensive, but no where near the quality of Maxpedition But a serious contender as it Much less money In the Condor, I carry a pop stove and a small bottle of fuel plus a brew kit in the front pocket And an Olicamp adoodized 24 oz mug is inside
Yes, the Condor is half the price of the insanely overpriced Maxpedition 10x4, which is currently selling for £ 43!! But it's not half bad! Not at at all.
Great video ! Tomorrow should receive two 10"x 4" Maxpedition Bottle Pouches from AR500 ! You could put one cup on the bottom of the water bottle and another on the top... For two cups in the Bottle Pouch ! Also looks like a lot of room for Tea Bags ! Have the Plastic Naglene Bottle and may get the SS (Stainless Steel) bottle with the sexy lip... The Bottle Bagws will be a great addition to the Survival Belt. Tethered to my Swedish Fire Steel is a large yellow plastic Hanson Pencil Sharpener from Home Depot to make tinder from a twig or Fatwood ! The SS or Ti Cups can be had from REI or any out door store... tjl
I've changed out my SS cups for Titanium pots now, but the same applies as regards the 10"x4" and 12"x5" bottle pouches... twin cup nesting perfectly :)
OOPs, my 10"x 4" Bottle Pouch tag said Made in China/Condor... From AR500 ! And did not have the snap clip that the Maxpedition Pouch had. Picked up a Nalgene Bottle in plastic and maybe later in Stainless Steel for the sexy lip... (BPA/BPS FREE plastic) Also Sea to Summit have cups that collapse flat. Think my Titanium Cup has a couple of Gas Cannistors in the cup and packed with the Snow Peak stove burner. tjl
So.. Tim Lipinski .. Did you send them back or did you keep them? The Condor H2O carrier is a very decent alternate to the insanely overpriced Maxpedition 10x4, currently selling for 43 £. The Condor is half the price but the quality is not half bad, if you ask me.
Your video is probably one of the best review on the 12x4, I was not sure which size I should get but now I am getting the 12x4. Many thanks. Ps: where did you get your cups?
Does anyone know if you can fit a 64oz Klean Kanteen in one of these pouches? Having a rough time finding a molle pouch with a pocket that'll fit this monster of a bottle
Your review stimulated me to buy one of my own (Maxpedition 12x5, Klean Kanteen 40) for myself. I couldn't quite make out what your were saying when you pulled out your burner, can you spell it out for me (make, model)? Thanks!
No problem at all... the stove is a Trangia Meths Stove. You can find them here: amzn.to/2gtRH0U The cups are the Tatonka Folding Handle Mugs. You can find them here: amzn.to/2fFk0HD And you already know about the pouch and the 40oz Klean Kanteen :)
Thank you for the info and your quick reply - very much appreciated. I ordered the Trangia Stove, but went with a GSI Glacier cup (to save a buck or two...). I must say the Maxpedition 12x5 bottle pouch along with 2" strap and shoulder pad, Klean Kanteen 40oz, cup and stove set me back a few pesos! But it is shaping up to be a nice package - can't wait to get all together and I just remembered you had a matchless method of firing up the stove. What was that piece of gear?
That's a good ol' fashioned "Ferro rod". They're cheap and easily available... just remember to get one with a decent striker, or use the spine of your knife as a striker if you prefer.
I just ordered the maxpedition condor 2 rucksack and the 10x4 bottle pouch to molly on to it. I will be using it for the range and pigeon shooting. I have a klean kanteen 27 oz with the optional plastic drinking spout. Can I assume it will fit okay then? Also did you say you reviewed the condor 2? I can't seem to find it on your channel.
+srspower Yes, the 27 oz will fit but there's a lot of spare room. I think I need to reupload the Condor-II review as for some reason it was taken down (no idea why, there wasn't any music or anything in it)
Another use for all in one drink sachets, Voidfillers for odd gaps in your pack/pouches, You'll laugh at how much coffee/many teabags you can squeeze in odd corners everywhere. And everyone knows the British march on their brews :-D
I don't carry a pot stand in this setup (unnecessary bulk and weight). I use three L-shaped tent pegs. And yes, this setup works extremely well and has done for many years now.
Just be aware that using tent pegs as a pot stand can be slightly problematic on soft ground (especially when it's saturated with water). I have, on occasion, tapped the tent pegs into a tree stump (or even a chopping block, once or twice) to provide a solid base on soft earth. It's just a good way of avoiding the need to carry the additional bulk and weight of a dedicated pot stand, which only has the one purpose. I'm quite big on the "it must have at least two uses or what's the point?" approach. Soon as I am able to get back out there (I'm suffering some serious health issues at the moment, and combined with my day job - which keeps me busy 6 days a week, 12 hours a day - it makes it difficult for me to find any time what-so-ever to get out and film) I think it would be a good idea for me to do a video on my go-to loadout, to give people a complete picture of what I actually take and why. I also have a backlog of footage for other videos I still need to find time to finish editing, but by the time I'm done with my work, and have taken my evening doses of medication, I simply lack the energy (and the will) to sit at a screen editing footage together. Anyway, hope you find the info useful, and definitely worth giving it a go with the tent pegs as a pot stand :)
Dude!! 43 £ for the 10x4 is not "well worth the money"!! Not unless you're insane or have far too much money to spend!! I'm going to get me 2 Condor H2O carriers instead. They'll last me my lifetime easily - And the quality is quite decent even!! However, thank you for the review. Apart from the complete nonsense about the price, the video was very informative and useful :-) Good job. Thanks for sharing!
Money is relative, right? What I consider to be a worthwhile pricetag, others may not (and vice-versa). Having had far too much Condor kit fail me (and spending far more overall replacing cheap, badly-made kit) I consider the pricetag to be worth it compared to carting broken kit back home, and paying more in the long-run to replace it all.
Packed To Live : Dude, sorry for being rude earlier. My outburst was not directed at you but at Maxpedition. I apologise! You'll be surprised to hear that I actually do own the Maxpedition 12x5 bottle holder. I must have acquired it at a point in my life where money wasn't an issue :-) I stumbled upon your video because I wanted to expand my system with 2 of the smaller Maxpedition bottle holders. But this time, I guess I've grown more responsible when it comes to money :-) Again, I don't mean any disrespect! Keep them videos coming!!
I bought the knockoff from China for $6 and I'm shocked at the quality of it. The only difference I can see from the Maxpedition is the fake has two 1inch molle straps built onto it to fasilitate weaving it onto palls. Yeah, imsure the material is better on the real thing but for $50 I can buy 8 knockoffs and my grandkids wont have to fight over them as long as they don't get left in the fire. On top of the quality of it it's available in many colors Maxpedition doesn't offer. Actually, just about any camo pattern imaginable. Well worth $6.
lol.. every time you say meth stove i'm put off. soo.. besides the obvious meth reference a spirit stove is more an Ethanol stove then a Methanol stove. so if your just saying it for the funny reference to methamphetamines then ok. but i'm not getting that. you say it as if your referring to Methanol. however maybe i'm just being a wanker because a spirit burner will burn either. your just the only person i've ever heard referring to it as a meth stove.
Great review and nice to see the side by side. That 12x5 is huge!
Great review man thanks for sharing!
Still the best review on this pouch. Kudos. I'm extremely pissed at Max that they don't offer it in Ranger Green anymore (which is outright daft in my book). They don't even make them in OD anymore.
Not sure if another poster has already chimed in, but the hook you didn’t know the name of is called a HK Hook (referencing the German firearms manufacturer). Well done reviews.
i carry the same brew kit and did not know there was a bigger pouch ,,thanks ...all the best kenny
Great review Simon as i've been eying these pouches up for a while ~Peace~
Nice vid
I have the Condor version of the 10"x4 - find it has a little more give in it as well as being a lot cheaper (but still very well made) - so if you think the Max Exp puoch is a little expensive there are alternatives out there. I have the Max 12"x5" though as I have not seen anything else that size for my cook set.
Yes. Getting the Condor H2O Carrier is the only way to go, unless you have far too much money to spend :-) Half the price but still very decent quality.
I always wonder how useful a drainhole is, if everyone puts nesting cups at the bottom.
Omg i had no idea it was this huge. So glad you made this video man 👍
Condor make a 10"x 4" bottle pouch
Much less expensive, but no where near the quality of Maxpedition
But a serious contender as it Much less money
In the Condor, I carry a pop stove and a small bottle of fuel plus a brew kit
in the front pocket
And an Olicamp adoodized 24 oz mug is inside
Yes, the Condor is half the price of the insanely overpriced Maxpedition 10x4, which is currently selling for £ 43!! But it's not half bad! Not at at all.
Great video ! Tomorrow should receive two 10"x 4" Maxpedition Bottle Pouches from AR500 ! You could put one cup on the bottom of the water bottle and another on the top... For two cups in the Bottle Pouch ! Also looks like a lot of room for Tea Bags ! Have the Plastic Naglene Bottle and may get the SS (Stainless Steel) bottle with the sexy lip... The Bottle Bagws will be a great addition to the Survival Belt. Tethered to my Swedish Fire Steel is a large yellow plastic Hanson Pencil Sharpener from Home Depot to make tinder from a twig or Fatwood ! The SS or Ti Cups can be had from REI or any out door store... tjl
I've changed out my SS cups for Titanium pots now, but the same applies as regards the 10"x4" and 12"x5" bottle pouches... twin cup nesting perfectly :)
OOPs, my 10"x 4" Bottle Pouch tag said Made in China/Condor... From AR500 ! And did not have the snap clip that the Maxpedition Pouch had. Picked up a Nalgene Bottle in plastic and maybe later in Stainless Steel for the sexy lip... (BPA/BPS FREE plastic) Also Sea to Summit have cups that collapse flat. Think my Titanium Cup has a couple of Gas Cannistors in the cup and packed with the Snow Peak stove burner. tjl
So.. Tim Lipinski .. Did you send them back or did you keep them? The Condor H2O carrier is a very decent alternate to the insanely overpriced Maxpedition 10x4, currently selling for 43 £. The Condor is half the price but the quality is not half bad, if you ask me.
I friend what did you use as a pot stand... Good little cook set
Your video is probably one of the best review on the 12x4, I was not sure which size I should get but now I am getting the 12x4. Many thanks. Ps: where did you get your cups?
+M Sato the cups are the "Tatonka Folding Handle Mugs"... bought them on Amazon.
Great review! Now I'm wondering if I should fork out the extra money for this pouch than say the Condor one. Food for thought.
These are the difficult choices in life ;)
They certainly are! Incidentally, would a small Kelly Kettle be able fit in this pouch?
I can't say for sure as I don't own a Kelly Kettle (of any size). You need to check the diameter against the interior diameter of the bottle pouch.
Do you have a link to the shoulder strap?
Does anyone know if you can fit a 64oz Klean Kanteen in one of these pouches? Having a rough time finding a molle pouch with a pocket that'll fit this monster of a bottle
I really like how you review
Keep up the good work
Your review stimulated me to buy one of my own (Maxpedition 12x5, Klean Kanteen 40) for myself. I couldn't quite make out what your were saying when you pulled out your burner, can you spell it out for me (make, model)? Thanks!
No problem at all... the stove is a Trangia Meths Stove. You can find them here: amzn.to/2gtRH0U
The cups are the Tatonka Folding Handle Mugs. You can find them here: amzn.to/2fFk0HD
And you already know about the pouch and the 40oz Klean Kanteen :)
Thank you for the info and your quick reply - very much appreciated. I ordered the Trangia Stove, but went with a GSI Glacier cup (to save a buck or two...). I must say the Maxpedition 12x5 bottle pouch along with 2" strap and shoulder pad, Klean Kanteen 40oz, cup and stove set me back a few pesos! But it is shaping up to be a nice package - can't wait to get all together and I just remembered you had a matchless method of firing up the stove. What was that piece of gear?
That's a good ol' fashioned "Ferro rod". They're cheap and easily available... just remember to get one with a decent striker, or use the spine of your knife as a striker if you prefer.
@@PackedToLive the pain of only having a folder comes out with a ferro rod,
I need to get out further from civilisation and carry a proper knife lol.
I just ordered the maxpedition condor 2 rucksack and the 10x4 bottle pouch to molly on to it. I will be using it for the range and pigeon shooting. I have a klean kanteen 27 oz with the optional plastic drinking spout. Can I assume it will fit okay then? Also did you say you reviewed the condor 2? I can't seem to find it on your channel.
+srspower Yes, the 27 oz will fit but there's a lot of spare room. I think I need to reupload the Condor-II review as for some reason it was taken down (no idea why, there wasn't any music or anything in it)
Packed To Live You should do that! I love my condor 2 but would be interested to hear what you think of it.
How can I attach that pouch to Molle? Do I need strips?
Nice one Si I to love my one brilliant bit of kit
Another use for all in one drink sachets,
Voidfillers for odd gaps in your pack/pouches,
You'll laugh at how much coffee/many teabags you can squeeze in odd corners everywhere.
And everyone knows the British march on their brews :-D
What color did you purchase?
great review. peace from Berkshire
what is a y tow k zippa ?
Will the 12 x 5 hold a 64 oz Kleen Kanteen or just the 40 0z.
It wouldn't hold the 64oz (sorry for the late reply, life has prevented me from engaging with people's messages the last couple of months)
The 12x5 will hold a 64 oz. Klean Kanteen bottle.
Nice one simon.
how do you support the pot over the Trangia?
I use 3 or 4 tent pegs to support the pot over the Trangia.
It seems you forgot a pot stand? So not sure how good your kit is?
I don't carry a pot stand in this setup (unnecessary bulk and weight). I use three L-shaped tent pegs. And yes, this setup works extremely well and has done for many years now.
Packed To Live that sounds good. Seen it but never tried may have to do that now.
Just be aware that using tent pegs as a pot stand can be slightly problematic on soft ground (especially when it's saturated with water).
I have, on occasion, tapped the tent pegs into a tree stump (or even a chopping block, once or twice) to provide a solid base on soft earth.
It's just a good way of avoiding the need to carry the additional bulk and weight of a dedicated pot stand, which only has the one purpose.
I'm quite big on the "it must have at least two uses or what's the point?" approach.
Soon as I am able to get back out there (I'm suffering some serious health issues at the moment, and combined with my day job - which keeps me busy 6 days a week, 12 hours a day - it makes it difficult for me to find any time what-so-ever to get out and film) I think it would be a good idea for me to do a video on my go-to loadout, to give people a complete picture of what I actually take and why.
I also have a backlog of footage for other videos I still need to find time to finish editing, but by the time I'm done with my work, and have taken my evening doses of medication, I simply lack the energy (and the will) to sit at a screen editing footage together.
Anyway, hope you find the info useful, and definitely worth giving it a go with the tent pegs as a pot stand :)
Packed To Live I have s stand that is windscreen and pot stand and weights an oz. Any more I am just more convinced to carry my cartridge stove.
Dude!! 43 £ for the 10x4 is not "well worth the money"!! Not unless you're insane or have far too much money to spend!! I'm going to get me 2 Condor H2O carriers instead. They'll last me my lifetime easily - And the quality is quite decent even!!
However, thank you for the review. Apart from the complete nonsense about the price, the video was very informative and useful :-) Good job. Thanks for sharing!
Money is relative, right? What I consider to be a worthwhile pricetag, others may not (and vice-versa).
Having had far too much Condor kit fail me (and spending far more overall replacing cheap, badly-made kit) I consider the pricetag to be worth it compared to carting broken kit back home, and paying more in the long-run to replace it all.
Packed To Live : Dude, sorry for being rude earlier. My outburst was not directed at you but at Maxpedition. I apologise!
You'll be surprised to hear that I actually do own the Maxpedition 12x5 bottle holder. I must have acquired it at a point in my life where money wasn't an issue :-)
I stumbled upon your video because I wanted to expand my system with 2 of the smaller Maxpedition bottle holders. But this time, I guess I've grown more responsible when it comes to money :-) Again, I don't mean any disrespect!
Keep them videos coming!!
Very good
could you fit a jetboil in one of these?
I wouldn't be able to say for sure, but having seen a few Jetboils in the past, I wouldn't expect one to fit.
cool stuff
Not to be pedantic, but is that not known as “molle “ webbing?
Anyone else wondering, when he said "him and his partner"?... who knows, to each their own I guess
I bought the knockoff from China for $6 and I'm shocked at the quality of it. The only difference I can see from the Maxpedition is the fake has two 1inch molle straps built onto it to fasilitate weaving it onto palls. Yeah, imsure the material is better on the real thing but for $50 I can buy 8 knockoffs and my grandkids wont have to fight over them as long as they don't get left in the fire.
On top of the quality of it it's available in many colors Maxpedition doesn't offer. Actually, just about any camo pattern imaginable. Well worth $6.
lol.. every time you say meth stove i'm put off. soo.. besides the obvious meth reference a spirit stove is more an Ethanol stove then a Methanol stove. so if your just saying it for the funny reference to methamphetamines then ok. but i'm not getting that. you say it as if your referring to Methanol. however maybe i'm just being a wanker because a spirit burner will burn either. your just the only person i've ever heard referring to it as a meth stove.
a meth stove? you cook your meth on hikes? i make mine in a bath tub..
+Daniel Stevens Meths = Methylated Spirits (a denatured form of alcohol fuel)