Winter Tires
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- What makes a good winter tire? We take an in-depth look at winter tires and what makes some better than others, from rubber compound and tread design to sipes and studs.
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Very informative video. But I read different views about the tire width- narrower better for traction, and wider for braking and cornering? Which is true in your opinion?
Sipes and tread blocks are to different things.
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The best jam packed advise that I've seen all in one spot.. Well done
Advice, not advise.
One thing I'd like to point out is that all season tires can differ massively from one another when it comes to performance. I had a set of el cheapo goodyear "all season" tires that might as well have been summer tires. In snow that's about 1" or deeper those things could loose traction so easily. Even on just regular wet and dry driving conditions they were pretty mediocre at best. I was completely sick of them, plus they were at their tire wear limit so I figured I'd do my homework for all season tires that didn't suck that were in my price range. I settled on the Vredestein quatrac and wow, what a difference. I had to go to work this year with about 3" of snow on the ground and about 1" of slush underneath the powder. I was able to truck on through like it was nothing, and I'm in a stock civic haha. I ended up passing someone in an SUV that was struggling. Granted if I got too ballsy with the gas, I'd have some understeer but the second I backed off the throttle it was perfectly fine. But yeah, it seems the more snow tire inspired "V" tread patterned all season tires are actually doing well in the snow. Overall though good vid, enjoyed it :)
Great video. I went budget and ran General Altimax Arctics on my 04 Jeep Grand Cherokee. With the Vari-Lok axles front and rear it turned a really good in the snow Jeep into an unbelievable one.
thank you for the video. Dude you gave me the right direction about tires for snow
All season tires suck in all seasons - true.
Agreed. They are a compromise of all situations and not real good at any.
Not all off them.
but i think some of them are really quiet, which is the only plus situation i ever had
Actually that statement is wrong. In dry conditions in the winter they outperform snow tires. Same for light slush.
@@vroomgc ... You obviously didn't even listen to the first minute or two of the video.
That was an education in winter tires! Thanks!
Great video, you did an excellent job of explaining how a tire works and why.
a few years ago I put two winter force tires on a front drive Omni. I could not believe how they bit on even glare ice. I just checked at tire rack and the Blizzak was $130 each while the winter force was $103. If you are buying two the price is not a big factor, buy which you have the most faith in, but if you are planning to buy 4 then the price becomes more of a factor. For four tires blizzak would be $520 while the winter force would be $412.
There is currently a mail in rebate on the Blizzak so the cost for 4 would come down to $451!
Excellent presentation here. I am new to this channel & just moments ago I left a comment on the 4X4 versus AWD video. My closing summary was about the tires one chooses to use on their respective vehicles. When this video was produced the latest by Nokian was the Nokian Hakkapeliitta R2 which had a 5 year run. Earlier this year Nokian upgraded to the R3 series winter tire, almost the same but with several improvements. Just yesterday in fact I had a set of Nokian Hakkapeliitta 225/60R18 R3 SUV ( non studded ) winter tires installed on my 2017 Subaru Outback 2.5i Limited.
Glad to see you emphasized the quality & design of the Nokian Hakkapeliittas winter tire. I put them to the test coming home, driving through steep, snow covered terrain that the factory Bridgestone M&S Dueller tires were never designed for. The Nokians easily passed the test with no slippage or sliding whatsoever. Now after 19 months of driving on those " extremely dangerous " factory tires, I have experienced for the FIRST time what the Outback can actually do in the snow on a real set of winter tires...
Thank you,
Bill on the Hill... :-) ( N. Central Vermont )
@ 6 minutes, the 3d sips, that's why I love Michelin x ice they are designed to lasting performance which I've used all 3 gens thru out the years. I'm still a huge fan of the first gen x ice's.
I was quite surprised that at 5mm there will be some traction left, but if it's not slushy they still hold the ground. Definitely the sippes are deeper than in most of winter tires making X-Ice last. I was big Hakkapelita fun, but also tried Toyos in the past.
Holy crap, thanks for the lesson, Wyatt. I learned a grip.
Thanks Dan!
Maybe speak to wintertires for rallycross applications?? Like winter ksi slalom and hakkapelitas???
Thanks for explaining everything
The microscopic water pores on the Blizzak ARE for microscopic amounts of water. On ice, when you put pressure on it, you melt a microscopic layer of water on top of it, which is why ice is more slippery than very-smooth cement. I must emphasize that this is a microscopic layer of water; probably less than one drop of water across the whole contact patch. The sipes work by melting edges into the ice and then grabbing them. Studs do the same, but much more, and with good old fashioned violence. In the old days they'd grind up walnut shells and mold that grit straight into the rubber. All the same deal. Melt an edge and bear against it.
The micro pores and the cheater grooves help to evacuate this microscopic water boundary layer, getting the tire more firmly onto the solid ice. Use the pressure to melt little microscopic edges into the ice, then wick the moisture away. Does it work on slush or rainy roads? Hell no. That's big-boy water, and it requires big-boy grooves.
All this is why a winter tire gets more grip on a hockey rink than it would on a basketball court. A summer tire, which has none of this going on, acts like a hockey puck.
I do agree that good winter tires are the best option. But there are some modern allseasons that do really perform well in winter. I've spent most of the last 27 years living in South Dakota, Colorado, and Minnesota. Goodyear assurance triple treads do really well. Had them on my subaru legacy, and my wife's Tracker. Worked awesome on ice. Anyone who has ever spent any time on interstate 94, or interstate 90 know how crappy they can get. They just didn't just get by, they excelled.
Getting my blizzaks fitted tomorrow. Will never run without winters again, nearly go into a terrible wreck last year. Never again.
A warning for stud use. Had an early thaw which melted everything. Looked like spring but 2 months early. I was still driving on studded tires. On the highway, without snow/ice, those studs get hot. Caused a blowout at highway speed and almost went very bad. Keep in mind, when the season switches (not the month where they say to stop using them) you need to switch tires or pull the studs.
I have wide tires and wheels for show during the summer and the put old wheels and thin tires on for winter..a thin tire cuts through instead of riding on top or actually floating on top the snow and also thin works way better in mud ,not real deep mud but stuff u would encounter under fall snow and warmer conditions
Back when dinosaurs ruled the earth I used to drive about 10K miles a year on snow and ice. Often a bit aggressively. ;-) Goodyear once made a tire called the F-32 that was fantastic in those conditions. They were a little squishy on dry pavement but nothing terrible. I've learned the hard and expensive way not to believe the tire test in the magazines and most youtube channels for the reasons you mentioned. Yet I still hear "the tire testers preaching" when people quote the magazines to opinion to me. I'll just keep my own council from experience on what does and doesn't work in snow and ice. I still live in snow country and joke to myself when I see somebody stuck in the ditch, etc of something people used to tell me all the time when I'd preach winter tires. "I don't need no stinkin snow tires". I guess you "don't need" snow tires but choosing wisely makes a world of difference in winter driving.
Thanks that was alot of great information on winter tires. What are your thoughts on winter steel wheels vs alloy wheels ?
this the best review i have seen on youtube so far, well done. wish i saw this before i bought my toyo celsius for my volvo xc70.
This was a great tutorial. Very help for next winter
Thanks for nice presentation. You mentioned all features of YOKOHAMA Ice GUARD and BRIDGESTONE BLLIZAK. Wow!
Here in Japan, 5 years ago, BRIDGESTONE had been the best and YOKOHAMA had been the 2nd best. Because they have micro bubbled compounds which well grips ‘water on ice’ road. But, DUNLOP got much better in these 3years. And NANKANG bacame popular since its cost performance.
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Damn it, man. Great stuff. Thanks.
Great video! Also nice leather wave you have there! It’s great! Thanks for the info...I appreciate you!😁
Smaller and spaced blocks : better tire in deep snow and wet snow (slush) for traction, braking and control at speed - especially when changing lines over a pack of deep snow in between the lines. Larger and closer blocks : better tire for ice traction, will have less good traction in deep snow and slush. But the most important is the rubber quality : cheap tire means less good rubber compound and less traction no matter the design. And don't drive on winter tires in the warm season : the temperature hardens the rubber compound and you will loose in performance the next winters.
Thank God laws were passed a few years back making winter tires mandatory in Quebec. 90s are just memories of mustangs and Z24s' and civics sliding everywhere with slick racing tires. Just to give you an idea, winters are normally -10 to -40 with wind factoring in (-40c is -40f). This video is pretty accurate btw. Only reason 95% of people here don't use studded tires is that they sound like tank tracks and slide all over when braking fast.....
finally a person who knows what he's talking about. good video he's 100 % right
Lol 100% huh, based on what ?
Excellent Video! So much information! Answered all my questions in one video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Where did you find a Hakkapeliitta 1? :D They went out of production like 15 years ago.
Hell, the Hakka 5s are MANY years out of production!!
I had the Hakka 10s on my '89 GTI 16V, for it's first winter, WHEN IT WAS NEW!!
Found this out the hard way. Had a blow out on one last year and found out there are date codes on tires. They were 13 years old at the time, never again am I buying tires older than a couple years old. Let my family get stranded, not cool.
@@nofascistsonmywatch Hakkapeliitta 10s exist? Thought they're only at series 9.
For ice racing do you want wide or narrow tire in a non studded class? If you groove your own tires do you have to worry about un balancing them?
I've always wondered about the green diamond's.
What do you guys think of tractionizing wrangler duratracs? Barely drive the truck in the summer but I need better traction in winter
You forgot about Pirelli Sottozero 3 which is one of the best snow tire ,definitely much better then any Continental with only good marketing.
Those do look really good! We haven't used them yet but hopefully this winter we get our hands on some.
What do you think of the General Altimax Arctic tires? I have used them for a few years and love their performance in the snow
They're great! Solid choice at a reasonable price, can't go wrong.
@@Teamoneilrally ..Goodyear Ultra Grip Winter 175/70R14 84T BSW tire, any opinion on these? affordable....Minnesota driver.. $
61 Wally world
@@howieloso Try either Michelin X-ice or bridgestone blizzak and you'll love it! 5 years ago I used CHAMPIRO WinterPro, and now about 3 years i have 2 sets one is Michelin X-ice and the other is Bridgestone Blizzak! both work Awesome. Despite the fact my cars are FWD im easily can pull a mid SUV.
good luck on the road.
drive safe.
Studded winter tyres do actually grip better on dry and wet tarmac than studless ones which have too soft compound for tarmac.
Great video! I wish you would have spent a little more time discussing the General Arctic 12 tho! I didnt even hear you say their name! I've been running them the last couple years in the Colorado Rockies, no studs. They are great.
I like general tires, the price makes them very attractive. A lot of people I know in Colorado run the blizzaks for an extra 20 dollars a tire.. I just can't decide
What do you recommend in the under$130 for slushy roads
What about the continentals behind you?
2011 dodge caravan 60,000 Kim’s what snow tires should I buy. In Canada?
The fins make 2 great things winter/snow/ice tires and rally drivers
I think someone put too big of studs in or didn't know what they were doing. Studs shouldn't actually protrude like that. If you run your hand over the tire you shouldn't damage your hand
You're exactly right, we were testing with oversized studs on ice.... They're really good for a little while, but they rip out pretty quickly unless they're glued in.
You forgot what is probably becoming the most popular winter tire segment (at least here in Montreal) High performance winter tires. These tires are mostly run flat technology with significantly higher speed ratings than the tires you featured. Part of the reason they are popular is that more new cars are coming with larger diameter wheels that have very low profiles.
Being able to fit something on your fancy wheels is a horrible reason to pick it.
Thanks very helpful information
I was going to get the blizzak but the only issue I thought was that the mileage wasn't very good.. 12000-15000 maybe not bad for some areas but in Ontario where we can have 6 months of winter.. I just don't think thats very good.
How to do 🔩 for your tires for the winter ❄️?
Plz and thank you
Simon Calob what does this mean?
Brew City Boat Club well my question... is so you buy a new winter tires or put Screw in the tires which I have no clue what’s that lol ... just trying to figure what’s the right tires for winter that’s all thanks
Wow, what's the date code on those Hakkapeliitta 1 tires? You all care about the age of tires? Honestly curious. Hearing tire manufacturers consider tires expired at six years.
Thank you!
Can you do an in-depth video about "summer tires"?
just buy something round for summer lol
How do “winter” tires work as a gravel tire? I can’t seem to find gravel tires in 18 inch wheels
For gravel and other un-paved roads you need an AT tire. (All-terrain tire)
But for a 2015 STI there are no AT tires that will fit with an 18 inch wheel even with a lift. Also, can't go smaller wheels due to the rotor/caliper size.
I know some people that use snow tires for rallycross, but with how soft the compound is I don't think they last very long with a lot of heat in them.
@@thehammernator STIs are no longer rally cars, they are pavement queens.
I don't know about newer STI but the older ones were hard to find tires for rally also. I think a lot of rally folks used 4 pot Subaru calipers instead of Brembos so they could clear a 16" wheel.. but I also heard there were some rally wheels that have more clearance. To clear in a downsize without changing calipers. There might be 17" rally wheels which would clear your brakes
Where are you located? Nice job with your information.
Hey thanks Larry! We're up in the White Mountains of NH, check out www.teamoneil.com
Does width matters in snow??
Narrower is usually preferred as they will cut through the snow down to grip better, the only time you'd want wide tires is if you were trying to float on top of the snow... You see trucks that travel on glaciers and in very deep snow will use very large, wide tires to stay up on the surface instead of digging in.
Now i know Tires!
You forgot Continental Ice contact. Top in all tests.
Studded not legal in southern Ontario :(
thanks for the video, one question i didnt see you talk about . for winter tires the size of the tire if its a normal 205 for summer tire, i bought some winter tires and they gave me smaller tires 195 i believe for snow build up.? is this a thing or just go with same size as summer. thanks
ps i live in canada and i want snow tires like , lazy A@# plow drivers that dont plow the road snow tires lol
Great question. Often you want a narrower snow tire for cutting through the snow/slush (wider tires float on top of the snow), but not necessarily a smaller diameter (speedo will be off etc). On Subarus for example most of the time you'd have a 205/55 R16 in the summer, and most people run 195/60 R16 in the winter which is the same height/diameter just narrower.
I use the same size summer and winter. Heavy snowfall here in Wisconsin...❄️❄️ Snow does build up but nothing that can't be removed by just kicking it with your toe/boot. 2008 Buick lacrosse front wheel drive only.
driving ice/snow tires on snowy areas will last you a long time. switching between winter/summer tires will be cheaper for you in a long run.
Nokians are not necessarily made in Finland. At least some are made in Russia.
The "micro pumps" on the Blizzak and the xIce tires are not BS. They aren't for slushy or wet roads. It is for hard cold ice. What makes ice slippery at -40 is the microscopic film of water that forms when a tire slips or even your boot when you try to walk on it. That's why ice tires work so well and why good winterboots don't slip either. The rubber compound draws it from between the ice and tire. Works very well. Living on the Canadian Prairies we don't have a lot of snow to deal with and what we get is very dry and packs hard. Ice traction is paramount here.
I found my X-Ice Xi2's fantastic on dry (cold or warm) and in wet. Tread life, road noise also were excellent. But in deep snow and icy roads they performed only so so. Any winter tire without studs won't excel on ice although they're much, much better then all seasons.
So true! I survive Jasper, Alberta last week with this tires on my Honda Civic.
I just spent half an hour explaining the same thing, but you beat me to it by 5 years, lol.
"the worse of driver you are the better tires you need" I like it!
It's not that simple,our truck driver does 200 thousand km a yr,just wrote a van off on ice at 17mph,gps proven
truck drivers are all retards so that makes sense
@@tweeny55 Driving many kilometers per year doesn't necessarily make one a skilled driver, as your anecdote illustrates.
and the more spectacular failure will look in case of the inevitable.
@@userer4579 if you drive 200km a year for a lot of years youll have a decent amount of experience and skill
_You cannot oversteer accidentally if you are already oversteering._ 🙂👈
I preach winter tires to my friends and family. Thanks for the detailed breakdown! I even learned something in regards to your prepared racing tires.
My theory about all-season tires is: We have winter, summer, spring, and fall. We don't have an "all-season" time of year. I'm glad I live somewhere that requires snow tires in the winter by law. Much safer. Also, studs are legal here.
Where do you live that snow tires are required by law? That's a GREAT law. Must be Canada?
@@Teamoneilrally in Europe: Austria
, Belarus, Bosnia Herzegovina, Czech Republic, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Iceland, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova, Montenegro, Russia, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Sweden.
Some of these countries have a blanket law that requires you to use winter tires during a specific period (usually November - April), others only in "wintry conditions". Also, snow chains may be mandatory under specified circumstances.
Northern US states definetely should enforce winter tires by law too.
@@Teamoneilrally Quebec has that law!
Decided to get winters for my BRZ. Found an almost new set of Cooper WeatherMaster's mounted and balanced on '99 Legacy GT wheels for $175 total. Such a steal. Gonna put em on the car soon. Can't wait for snow!
Never mentioned Cooper winter tires that outdone most all winter tires on the market at a more reasonable price.
Not big fun of Cooper. They're not much better than Korean manufacturers.
have been looking into winter tire videos, and i cant believe how much they make a difference i will never drive in the cold without winter tires again
I used to work at a dealership for 7 years, in the parts department, and after years of selling the xice and blizzaks, I chose Bilzzaks for my 17 wrx for better traction cause I do less kilometres per year. But for my dad and his Honda Crosstour, I got him the Xice3 as I think there almost as good as the Blizzaks, but last longer in terms of kilometres. Just my two cents.
Thanks so much! This the best Tire review on the internet! just subscribed. I would love to see one exactly like this with your advice on Trucks only...
Thank You for this very informative Video on Winter Tires , I have a 2004 Chrysler Sebring and have just purchased Bridgestone Blizzak WS80 Tires for it , you have Shown that I did not make a mistake in buying them as that car carries my most precious cargo "My Wife" , she drives alone and I want her to be safe in all weather during the Winter , now I have a piece of mind in the Tires that I have bought for our Car . THANK YOU !!!
Make sure your wife sees this post so you can score some points.
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Michelin all season tires are not bad. I live in Chicago and I never had a problem with them in the snow. (My car is also all wheel drive so that also helps). My other car has Continental all season tires and those are absolute garbage in the winter. Gonna have to look into Winter tires for that one, only problem is that it has 19 inch rims so tires are really damn expensive.
This was a super useful piece of information. Thank you for a great video!
Passionate about tyres, much? Thank you for this - I learned so much!
Tires.
You Sir are 1000% correct with your assessments and findings. Will speak candidly: Blizzak makes superior winter tires, better than Nokian, which seems counter-intuitive seeing as Nokian SHOULD know winter, due to the fact the country is under winter conditions more than any other. I live in Canada, in the mountains, which means heavy deep snow, ice, slush, constantly changing weather conditions and let's not forget, -40C. I drive all over Western Canada in every type of winter condition/road condition. Have tried winter tires from Michelin to Blizzak to Nokian Hakka line up and nothing matches or beats the Blizzak. Ran Blizzak LM-60 on my sedans for years. Then switched to Hakka R2 and was sadly disappointed and so much so I removed them and put the Blizzak back on in the form of the DMV2. The Blizzak DMV2 is the best winter tire I have ever used, even better than the X-Ice. I will explain why and it is simple to understand. The Blizzaks have deep grooves running longitudinally through the tire and many of them. This is what clears/cleans/ejects the snow from the tire, allowing the tire to make contact with the road underneath the snow. Go ahead and look at the tread patterns on the Blizzak LM-60, the Michelin X-Ice and the Blizzak DMV2. Boom! There it is. Now look at the Nokian line up. Look at the Hakka R2 and boom, there it isn't. No deep grooves to eject the snow. The same physics apply to summer tires; no deep grooves means aquaplaning when driving in the rain or on wet road conditions. The Hakka are very soft, which will make for a good ice tire and there is plenty of tread blocks to make good contact with the road and ice however, the DMV2 has plenty of tread blocks or surface area WITH THE ADDITION of deep grooves to eject the snow, and the DMV2 wears significantly better. The Blizzak WS line is superior for deep, deep snow conditions. Take a look at that tread pattern; it too has the deep grooves and chunky tread blocks. Friends have been die hard Nokian users for decades and swore it to be the BEST winter tire bar none. Then they decide to "try" the Blizzak and are astonished at the improvement of traction. When I ran the Hakkas, I was constantly spinning, tires searching for traction. I was sooo disappointed due to the marketing efforts of Nokian. Here in Canada it "Nokian is the best. Nokian is the best." So I decided to switch from Blizzak and was sorry I did. On the topic of studded tires - a bad idea. I agree with your findings; studded work well ONLY on ice but here is the kicker: the rubber on studded tires are HARD. Perhaps a cost savings ploy for manufactures. The consensus here among studded tire users is without the studs, the tire is practically useless due to the tires being so HARD - hard like a summer tire. Stay away from studded tires. The Bizzak DMV2 and WS80/90 are phenomenal on ice and snow and every winter condition. The technology currently is such studded tires are obsolete. Xice is also exceptional but Blizzak has the Master Formula for winter driving. Thanks for the great video. Its the BEST video explaining winter tires.
Grit: these days often silica grit. Essentially sand, so it gives traction but just becomes roadside "sand" as it wears out.
Cold temp makes all season tire very firm, ride very harsh. winter tire stay compliant and more comfortable in very cold weather too. In addition to having more grip
what is your take on cooper weather-master WSC 265/65R17
Super informative! Hat’s off! I’ve only been able to find the Nokian at Walmart so far...between the Bridgestone and the Nokian which do you recommend for Massachusetts Town/ City driving? Thanks again!
WAL MART now carries NOKIAN?!?!?!
blizzak WS80 and I own both and am a huge nokian fan. They're both great but the WS80 are typically better priced.
Our average snowfall is about 200 inches a season. I've been running 4 Nokian snow tires on every car I've owned since the 80s. I'd never consider any other brand.
ME TOO, , plus ruN Nokian Summer tires here in East Helena MT.. ( seem very good) & NOKIAN STUDS IN WINTER....
Same here Haakapalliita R2 SUV. Just amazing. Never thought it would make such a huge difference. If I see cars sliding backwards downhill, often these tires help me go up effortlessly. Crazy.
I just learned a ton about winter tires thank you.
Certainly one of the best explanations I've ever seen of the features and how they work. Thank you.
All season tires suck all seasons :-)
I ran all seasons in thr winter. I about crashed like 20 times in one year
In Ontario, Canada, we aren't allowed to have studded tires. Now think how stupid that is.
in Southern Ontario no, but north of Parry Sound we can use studs
same in minnesota, but i do understand its really hard on the roads. and tbh the dot is quite good at clearing the roads quickly here.
It goes by your home address.
Imagine if you got pulled over with studded tires in the North and got ticketed for it because your home address says Toronto and the cop hates your gut.
Considering poor roads,ure right
theres paved roads that get salted and plowed eventually. you would just be damaging the road and losing traction with studs when roads cleared. do roads turn to ice where you live? if so, go ahead put studs.
I feel this was one of the most precise & concise advise in a pack...good job!
Nice. I use the Hankook Winter I-Pikes without studs on my Mustang GT. Great tire.
Big +1 on studs. Deadly slick on wet roads, and will throw a rooster tail of sparks on dry tarmac. And tear out studs. Nothing like them on snow and ice, but for serious winter drivers only.
Loved the Xice Xi3
Precious advice! thank you
Literally, I've seen so many pretty much the same videos in the past few days but this one has the best description of the small details and overall difference between tires. Good job man
I like winter tires. Currently have 4 sets on wheels. Nokian Hakkapeliitta r2's are hands down the best winter tire.
You are smart.. but. Hakka 1? Really. Where did you get it. I'm on 8 already. And R2 for EV.
Hakka 1s and 2s are both great tires and very different than 8s and 9s. Built for different purposes.
Museum?
Wondering about storage. I've had my Hakka 8s in a closet till today. Is the 70 degree median temperature better/worse? Thoughts?
What do you think of the Michelin CrossClimate and CrossClimate+?
I haven't tried any yet, but for the UK, and especially in the south, they seem like a good solution for a summer focused all season tyre that should handle the cold and the odd snow day.
I live in south Texas, why did I watch this?
to laugh at the people sliding into ditches.
Winter tires for offroad!
The way the weather is anymore ya just never know when you may need snow tires. Texas might have a bad winter and all us northerners
might have sunny and highs in the 80s all winter long. I can dream can't I?
Curiosity? Or unconsciously worried about Climate Change?
you can have the best tires or suv in the world but still get into accidents with others driving on bald tires
9:25 OK, this is revolutionary sh*t and I get why ppl think its a gimmick. However, as he says - the results speak for themselves.
If those "microscopic" channels actually can siphon away water, they are removing _more_ water than exactly the same block made of regular rubber. Funny enough, it has been found out that the slipperiest ice is the one having super thin layer of water on it. So, if the block can remove the water it can't displace, you have increased traction by simply increasing the amount of rubber touching the "dry" ice.
You can't judge a tire just by the tread. The internal construction of sidewalls, belts, the airtight liner, chemical compounding and the ability of the manufacture to have closely controlled manufacturing process. That's why Michelin wins hands down.
Narrower tread widths are better with studs in strictly ice applications because it results in more pressure applied to each stud, which means better grip. Check the WRC tires used in Sweden. The CRC recently changed to rules to allow studs in Canadian Rally 🤗
I have on my sedan Hakkapelitta R2 and let me tell you , they are super smuth , fantastic grip in the snow and sludge . for me is the best snow tire that I used so far .
If you live in the midatlantic or the southern ice belt the Michelin X-ice are the best and last the longest.