Sound like King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard - Building A Microtonal Guitar

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  • @alexabood2516
    @alexabood2516 4 роки тому +259

    One person that disliked owns a macrotonal guitar company

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому +8

      Hahaha

    • @spitgorge2021
      @spitgorge2021 4 роки тому +8

      LESS than 12 notes

    • @Connorses
      @Connorses 4 роки тому +6

      all 19 of their employees found this

    • @onesyphorus
      @onesyphorus 3 роки тому

      ooh, it just clicked to mean what macrotones are... less than 12... lol

    • @johnsmith-ch7fg
      @johnsmith-ch7fg 3 роки тому +1

      @@onesyphorus Exactly - they certainly exist and tuning systems like 10 equal sound really good. 5 equal is as low as you'd want to go and is a good if simple system; know of some microtonalist/xenharmonicists who have created 5 equal instruments for kids to get radical on; it's actually very close to one of the Gamelan scales

  • @_narrows
    @_narrows 4 роки тому +150

    I don't even own a regular guitar, but my love for King Giz and diy tempts me hard...

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому +1

      haha time to start :P plz like and sub and press all the links in description :)

    • @johnsmith-ch7fg
      @johnsmith-ch7fg 3 роки тому +2

      Microtonal guitars are so damn cool it hurts - that said they system KGLW use isn't the most exciting system.

    • @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245
      @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 3 роки тому +3

      I’m so happy this comment exists. DIY forever

  • @amj.composer
    @amj.composer 2 роки тому +26

    This is awesome, although dividing the frets by 2 doesn't actually give you an exact quarter tone. You actually have to take the 24th root of 2, multiply that number by your desired quarter tone position, (so If C is your 0th quarter tone, then C half sharp is the 1st quarter. Say the number you got is "n", then you add a fret that shortens your string by "(1/n)th" its length.
    Sorry if this was long winded, but hope that made sense.

    • @asadimario5532
      @asadimario5532 Рік тому +1

      I’m reading your comment over and over again and it honestly doesn’t make that much sense. That said, thanks for the heads up!

    • @amj.composer
      @amj.composer Рік тому +1

      @@asadimario5532 No worries, it's frankly hard to explain without proper equation formatting and I probably didn't word it well enough.
      Do read the Wikipedia article on "equal temperament" and let me know if you have any questions!

    • @Zaphod313
      @Zaphod313 Рік тому +3

      In other words, instead of using arithmetic mean, one would ideally use the geometric mean between two given semitone frets as the accurate position of the quarter tone fret. While arithmetic mean is calculated by dividing the sum of all values by the number of values: (x₁+x₂+...xₙ)/n, geometric mean is the nth root of the product of all values: ₙ√(x₁*x₂*...xₙ). However, I believe that in this case the difference between these two averages is too small to matter for practical purposes. If we take a guitar with a vibrating string length of 62cm, the exact quarter tone between the first and the second semitone will be at 5.15cm from the nut, while the arithmetic average between the two first frets will be at 5.12cm. That's less than a millimeter's difference.

    • @amj.composer
      @amj.composer Рік тому +1

      @@Zaphod313 Yes thank you, your explanation is better. Arithmetic mean vs Geometric mean being the key difference here

    • @luukderuijter1332
      @luukderuijter1332 8 місяців тому

      If you measure between two frets, dont you just need 1/sqrt2?

  • @McSlapped
    @McSlapped 4 роки тому +82

    this is crazy man, props for doing it. I'm afraid of messing it up so I will probably just buy a neck

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому +3

      Haha nice check out tyler he can help you out :)

    • @johnsmith-ch7fg
      @johnsmith-ch7fg 3 роки тому +1

      a guitar repair guy should be able to do it fairly cheap - I have had several necks done with different microtonal systems

  • @twitch.101
    @twitch.101 3 роки тому +18

    I’m about to do this on a cheap acoustic. Been wanting to get Honey vibes for a while, but it was really great to see that it’s not an excessively difficult task and that it does sound really great without other instruments and stuff. Thanks!

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  3 роки тому

      Go for it! Thanks for watching good luck :)

  • @masonstafford8947
    @masonstafford8947 4 роки тому +53

    Sick man! This is just what I needed. turning my “crap” Epiphone Les Paul Jr into a microtonal guitar to play those gizz songs! Especially with the new album out!

  • @jeroenverbeeck7925
    @jeroenverbeeck7925 4 роки тому +15

    You can use the other side of the callipers to measure distance between the frets more accurate

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому +1

      Oh nice thanks :) plz like and sub and click all those amazon links for me :P

  • @mantisshrimp8019
    @mantisshrimp8019 2 роки тому +2

    So to sum up the video, you need a saw glue and fret wires. It seems like you could skip a couple of the steps in this video like taking the other frets off and even taking the neck off. Mainly just make sure the frets are evenly spaced and also are even with the other frets.

  • @jpnarrations1180
    @jpnarrations1180 Рік тому +2

    For anyone wanting to do this, I would highly recommend a cheap fret press so you don't damage the frets trying to hammer them in

  • @sapper7492
    @sapper7492 4 роки тому +19

    Thanks mate, I really needed to know how to make one, king gizzard inspire me so I wanted to sound like them as much as possible!

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому +1

      do it!! #microtonalgang hit TP guitars up for tips link in description

  • @chrisbrown7175
    @chrisbrown7175 4 роки тому +12

    Lol I want to build a baritone microtonal guitar SO much; I'm treating myself this Christmas and finally just ripping the bandaid off and doing it. Buying a microtonal guitar would be so expensive I can't find any cheap ones

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому +3

      hit tp guitars up he can make you a custom neck for a good price link in description :) join us #microtonalgang

    • @chrisbrown7175
      @chrisbrown7175 4 роки тому +1

      @@CharlesMeriot lol just sent him a message; I'll tell you how it goes

    • @chrisbrown7175
      @chrisbrown7175 4 роки тому +1

      @@CharlesMeriot well after talking with Tyler for a week I just paid my order today; I even gave him a $10 tip. If I like Microtonal as much as I think I will, one day I will send him a custom neck to have converted into microtonal one instead of ordering just what he has stock

  • @KlausM
    @KlausM 4 роки тому +3

    Great video and thanks for featuring my old video!!! I hope that you will enjoy all the new possibilities in terms of scales.

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому +1

      yes will definitely :) please like and subscribe and click all the links in bio:P

  • @nivengo1775
    @nivengo1775 4 роки тому +3

    Quite possibly the only video I’ve ever wanted

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому

      Hahah yes! Plz like and sub and click all those links in bio for support!

  • @nedcapp8817
    @nedcapp8817 4 роки тому +17

    this is quality info

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому

      lol thanks ned! plz like and sub and press all the links in description :)

  • @Simonsmukke
    @Simonsmukke 2 місяці тому +1

    Why did you take out all frets and didn't just add the new ones in between?

    • @Reecetafarian
      @Reecetafarian Місяць тому +1

      Its easier to make all the hights match up if you install a fresh set. There are many different types and widths of fret wire and it can be difficult to match the old ones to the new ones.

  • @wolframitephoenix6737
    @wolframitephoenix6737 4 роки тому +11

    You should not be dividing the linear distance by 2 for 24-TET; it ends up different then half-semitone distance in frequency.

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому

      ?? how? Wiki: "quarter-tone scale (24 equal temperament...divides the octave into 24 equal steps"

    • @wolframitephoenix6737
      @wolframitephoenix6737 4 роки тому +19

      @@CharlesMeriot so the division is equal in terms of logarithmic scale; not linear. The frequency of each tone is a multiple of the other (the multiplier is 2^(1/12) so that when you move 12 semitones; you multiply by 12 times, so each note's frequency is double the same note in the next octave) You will notice that on the regular guitar scale; the space between the frets are unequal. That's because to make the frequencies; they divide the scale in logarithmic progression. The distance, as they use in the wiki page for 24-TET is cents but it's a logarithmic scale. Think about it; an octave is double the frequency. A4 is generally 440Hz. Then A5 is 880Hz and A3 is 220Hz. The difference between such numbers is not the same; but if you look at their multipliers, one is double the next one always; that's what they mean by distance.
      For the regular guitar; if you measure distance from the bottom part of the string; the top part let's say lays at a distance L cm. The first fret will be at L/(2^(1/12)); the second fret at L/(2^(2/12)); etc. The formula for the distance will be, for the n'th fret, L/(2^(n/12)). For example; the 12th fret is 12 semitones up and must me one octave of the base string note right? One octave up means double the frequency and to produce that on a string you need half the length. On any guitar built for 12-TET, which is all regular guitars, the 12th fret will be at L/(2^(12/12)) or at L/2 right on the half spacing.
      You need to bust a calculator to calculate the proper spacing. If you do half distances, it will be slightly out of tune. Essentially instead of the divisor being 12; you make it 24 to get the proper microtonal spacings. Your guitar will be slightly out of tune on the microtonal sounds; since you just divided the space in 1/2 between each note spacing. There will be a frequency drift.
      I could possibly make a video explaining this better; we were talking on KG subreddit and people seem to not know this in general.
      BTW; i love your videos; but really wanted to point out in case people want to also do this. It will be slightly out of tune which is fine for jamming and playing; but it's not the proper way to do a microtonal guitar. I want to make my own 31-TET one at some point, so i love your methodology.

    • @Zagreus403
      @Zagreus403 4 роки тому +1

      @@wolframitephoenix6737 oh i see.. you are a man of science as well.. good explanation, i like that.

    • @byonskio
      @byonskio 4 роки тому

      ​@@wolframitephoenix6737 very nice explanation! I'm just playing with the calculator and the numbers are pretty much the same as the ones provided by the FretFind2D webpage. I really got encouraged by @CharlesMeriot 's video to make this kind of neck and thank god I paid close attention to this comment before cutting into my fretboard. Thank you veeeery much!!

    • @butterflymoon6368
      @butterflymoon6368 2 роки тому

      @@wolframitephoenix6737 can't you do a video yourself??? i want an accurate video.

  • @painsufferingevenperhapsag2980
    @painsufferingevenperhapsag2980 4 роки тому +13

    I plan on making a microtonal bass with a DIY Bass kit on eBay. I'm greenlit so far, and Christmas do be coming up quick

  • @jayfatty8173
    @jayfatty8173 4 роки тому +2

    I've been waiting for it for ages!!!! Thanks!!!

  • @therealjohngalaxy
    @therealjohngalaxy 4 роки тому +1

    Cool guitar! Good work!

  • @eetuleino6653
    @eetuleino6653 3 роки тому +2

    One suggestion I have is that you should hit the frets on sides of the fretboard and then in the middle. Also using a crowning file on the frets after you level them so that they play properly in tune. Otherwise a very good video and that neck looks a lot better than my first attempt!

  • @joedot343
    @joedot343 4 роки тому +3

    very cool this deserves more views

  • @cosmicreciever
    @cosmicreciever 2 роки тому +2

    How can you own things like a file and a caliper without even owning a screwdriver or a hammer?

  • @LaceChaser
    @LaceChaser 3 роки тому +1

    I just finished putting $250 into a pink Strat Buller I got for $60 brand new at a pawn shop. The sound is amazing from the 2 hot rails and the one single coil.
    I was looking the last couple days on places to get the work done for a micro tonal neck. I like in central Florida and can’t find anyone unfortunately. I’m also lacking Of skills in woodwork.
    If anyone knows someone I could get the frets done by, they’re already smooth as hell. I just need some extra frets put it.
    Don’t wanna put them in my Dean or my Gibson Lucielle or anything nice. Unless you guys think I should.
    I’m primarily a drummer, but I dabble in guitar.

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  3 роки тому

      Yo contact microtonalnecks.com he gotchu

  • @MarioFan171
    @MarioFan171 2 роки тому

    This Video revitalized my interests for Guitars

  • @Pyjama_S
    @Pyjama_S 3 роки тому +4

    Whats the point in removing the frets that are already there?

    • @Reecetafarian
      @Reecetafarian Місяць тому

      Its easier to make all the hights match up if you install a fresh set. There are many different types and widths of fret wire and it can be difficult to match the old ones to the new ones.

  • @Simonjose7258
    @Simonjose7258 2 роки тому

    4:24 Draw and X from each corner.?. That should give you the center.

  • @wormhistoryhour5
    @wormhistoryhour5 4 роки тому +3

    eould have been useful a month ago but luckily i stull got it built

  • @雌わ雄
    @雌わ雄 4 роки тому +3

    didnt know i needed this

  • @zaferaltun
    @zaferaltun 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for your effort, impressive work! It seems you have to adjust the new fret positions a bit for better quarter notes and normal notes, I think it is because you divided the space by 2 directly and guess 2/5 could be better, did not try, just guessing.

  • @ameriot7384
    @ameriot7384 4 роки тому +9

    interesting indeed

  • @JoeyCerrito
    @JoeyCerrito 4 роки тому +2

    dope stuff mang

  • @spicy-benis
    @spicy-benis 3 місяці тому

    Love this video but me like several others are curious-why remove the other frets just to refret them?

  • @rman3098
    @rman3098 4 роки тому +9

    You should review the John Schneider Fretlet frets as an alternative option, Ive been looking into them and I’ve wanted a microtonal guitar for ages but that seems like the only time focused option.

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому +1

      yeah thanks for the suggestion :) I think fretless has quite a different sound though, as if you were using a slide

    • @rman3098
      @rman3098 4 роки тому +1

      no it’s not fret less, they’re called “fretlets” and they’re basically like frets without the bottom thingy and with adhesive on it so you can stick it to any neck

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому +1

      @@rman3098 oh really cool, I'll look into it :D

    • @ACoolStupidDog
      @ACoolStupidDog 4 роки тому

      @@rman3098 There's also the very dyi and crappy equivalent of using zip ties if you just want to do it non-permanently.

  • @NoMorePedals
    @NoMorePedals 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks for this video! I've been thinking about trying this and this might a sign to go and do it.

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому

      Haha yeah orjust reach out to tyler on twitter link in descr he'll help u

  • @POPking887
    @POPking887 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks you guy 👍👍👍

  • @butterflymoon6368
    @butterflymoon6368 2 роки тому

    There's a very old youtube video showing how to do this which i think is where he would have got the idea from. It's a turkish sound btw rather than a 'king gizzard' sound.

  • @hanhtar9062
    @hanhtar9062 Місяць тому

    Tu gères ! Merci l'ami !

  • @espfernandez
    @espfernandez 4 роки тому +1

    I have to say that this is the right way but that many things could have gone wrong in this project. Luck will always protect the brave. Congratulations. DIY luthier tools or custom adapted tools are extremely inexpensive so I don't consider this an obstacle for anyone. Find out a little about this before starting the project, please, it doesn't hurt too much. Yet very inspiring video. There is also something that is quartal harmony and is different than microtonalism. Microtonalism is much more complex and mathematical than dividing the octave into 24 semi-tones.

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому

      thanks for the kind words Joao! You are very correct :) please like and subscribe and click all the links in my bio for support plz x

  • @monomoo1
    @monomoo1 3 роки тому

    awesome tutorial man! I'm definitely gonna try this on one of my spare cheap guitars

  • @YepMarko
    @YepMarko 7 місяців тому +1

    one question why are you removing frets when you just adding new frets, and not moving already existing to other points?

    • @Reecetafarian
      @Reecetafarian Місяць тому +1

      Its easier to make all the hights match up if you install a fresh set. There are many different types and widths of fret wire and it can be difficult to match the old ones to the new ones.

    • @YepMarko
      @YepMarko Місяць тому

      @@Reecetafarian ah ye make sense thank you. waiting for a bit warmer days to make mine got everything what need.

  • @aidan8728
    @aidan8728 4 роки тому +2

    Ty Charles! I so wanna learn sleep drifter

  • @Mnilsen91
    @Mnilsen91 4 роки тому +1

    Great video, dude! I really enjoyed watching this.

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks martin! Please like and subscribe and click all those links in desc for me :P

    • @Mnilsen91
      @Mnilsen91 4 роки тому

      @@CharlesMeriot just subbed! Looking forward for more Gizz covers! 🤘

  • @mbinch2608
    @mbinch2608 4 роки тому +7

    Thanks so much man!!! (:

  • @sumacdub
    @sumacdub 3 роки тому

    Nice infos, why would you take off all the frets tho ?

    • @Reecetafarian
      @Reecetafarian Місяць тому

      Its easier to make all the hights match up if you install a fresh set. There are many different types and widths of fret wire and it can be difficult to match the old ones to the new ones.

  • @leascaart
    @leascaart Рік тому

    Great job!!!

  • @2davis2drummer
    @2davis2drummer Місяць тому

    Where do you buy frets? Also can you still get the gizz sound with putting an extra fret between 1, 3 and the others not mentioned? I figured it wouldn’t make a difference but I just want to have all the info before I start this project

  • @wisterialosenge2546
    @wisterialosenge2546 3 роки тому

    refretting is a bit too skillful for me, I use neck extensions to make 16, 17, 19 (non even ) tone guitars. even easier, in the past I used a false bridge to make 9, 10, 11 (non even ) tone. and today I was thinking a false nut in between the real nut and the first fret could be interesting and easy. also, turning pickups sideways for separate strings outputs, and using midi flip variations to create backing tracks, is handy

  • @The101Skate
    @The101Skate 3 роки тому +2

    I'm wondering why you removed the previously placed frets? I am looking to do this and was thinking I would leave the ones already in there, and simply put in the quarter tone ones.

    • @andreasb7939
      @andreasb7939 3 роки тому +1

      If the new frets don't have the same height as the old ones, you'd have to do a lot of fret leveling, taking away a lot of material. If you use the same fret wire for everything, you'll actually make it easier fo yourself.

    • @The101Skate
      @The101Skate 3 роки тому

      @@andreasb7939 Thanks for the reply. I actually figured this out the hard way, but after a lot of sanding it came out alright! Great video, it helped a lot.

  • @jahnlemmon
    @jahnlemmon Рік тому +2

    In the Turkish music culture, we already use that in bağlama or saz (like gizzard :)). When I first saw the guitar keyboard recognized saz so fast. It is nice to see modern folk-rock culture still use that.

  • @Roder7494
    @Roder7494 3 місяці тому +1

    What tuning?

  • @onlyshallot
    @onlyshallot 4 роки тому +1

    cool! let’s change the pickups!

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому

      Hahah I don't mind start a pickups fund on venmo donate with Pickups in caption :P

  • @crcsector9
    @crcsector9 4 роки тому

    7:51 whats that song? Its really nice and transmit a lot of emotion

    • @crcsector9
      @crcsector9 4 роки тому +1

      And yes great DIY work!! Well done!

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому

      @@crcsector9 got it from youtube free music ua-cam.com/video/pMffspVM3no/v-deo.html&ab_channel=LIMORecordingStudio

  • @zachdemarco9394
    @zachdemarco9394 3 роки тому +1

    What’s the song your played at 8:00

  • @np-br
    @np-br 2 роки тому +1

    You should use logarithm progression because the geometric center is not the center of a quarter tone. Get in touch if you still need the math behind the construction

    • @Nega-Tim
      @Nega-Tim Рік тому

      Geometric center of deez nuts lol

  • @irgendwer3610
    @irgendwer3610 3 роки тому +1

    2:59 song name please?

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  3 роки тому +1

      Bad Snacks - New Year, it's from the youtube free music library and Bad Snacks is def one of the best one's in there :)
      ua-cam.com/video/ItcxXLSM1dM/v-deo.html&ab_channel=NoCopyrightAudioLibrary

  • @crumb00
    @crumb00 4 роки тому +3

    which pickup did you use whilst recording the song you were playing at 7:58?

  • @dylan-kt7kd
    @dylan-kt7kd 4 роки тому +8

    Is there a need to remove the initial frets?

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому

      I did it to be 100% sure that they would br leveled but idk ask TP guitars on twitter

    • @dylan-kt7kd
      @dylan-kt7kd 4 роки тому

      @@CharlesMeriot aight will do

    • @Ian-mx4vp
      @Ian-mx4vp 4 роки тому

      @@dylan-kt7kd did u get a response from them on twitter? id like to know if i should remove mine as well

    • @tiagodoresalmeida
      @tiagodoresalmeida 4 роки тому +2

      @@Ian-mx4vp you don't need to remove any frets, unless your original frets are all worn out this is time and money wasting, specially if you never did that before cuz you might damage the fretboard in doing so. Just put the frets for the new notes you want and level everything with a straight edge and sandpaper, you would need to do so anyway to get properly leveled frets even if you changed all of them for new frets of the same brand, this guy clearly doesn´t have any luthier experience.

    • @Ian-mx4vp
      @Ian-mx4vp 4 роки тому

      @@tiagodoresalmeida thanks my guy, helps a lot :)

  • @AlmestrandMusic
    @AlmestrandMusic 4 роки тому +6

    Very cool! Did you file the nut to make room for thicker strings to accommodate the lowered tuning, or does it work fine with regular .010s or what you are using?

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому +2

      Atm am using regular strings tuned c# f# c# f# b e like this gizzard microtonal stuff... .09-.42

  • @hugoquinn7432
    @hugoquinn7432 2 роки тому +1

    whyd you remove the original frets? whats the point

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  2 роки тому

      to do more work

    • @cadenbenton6235
      @cadenbenton6235 2 роки тому

      @@CharlesMeriot probably was worth it because you were working on a Squier neck and the original fret job was probably not as good as the one you did

    • @big_ol_ball838
      @big_ol_ball838 Рік тому

      @@cadenbenton6235 this is just stupid thinking. squires fretwork is usually fine, not only that but his fret install was terrible. so many crooked, not properly set, and unlevel frets. not only that but none of them are glued in. he also used a metal hammer to get the frets in, which will dent the frets. also no crowning job. these are all mistakes fender would never make with their quire guitars.

  • @davetheemu2658
    @davetheemu2658 Рік тому

    I have a cheap acoustic guitar that I'm planning on doing this for.
    Also, why get rid of the original frets? I was thinking you could just add in the microtonal frets and leave the original frets on the neck.

    • @Nega-Tim
      @Nega-Tim Рік тому

      Cause otherwise the new frets won't match the heights of the old ones

  • @joelbentzen6542
    @joelbentzen6542 Рік тому

    Awesome

  • @leascaart
    @leascaart Рік тому

    Are this jumbo frets? They look big.

  • @2Large4U
    @2Large4U 4 роки тому +3

    Thank you!! Very fun to watch. Lining up a PayPal donation right now, thank you for all the videos you make and the effort you put in to these. I get so much out of your videos!
    Edit: it's not finding you by name search on PayPal:( I've tried CharlesMeriot, charles meriot, and @charlesmeriot

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому +1

      hey man :) yeah sure paypal is super helpful! you can do meriotcharles@gmail.com that means a lot Eric

    • @2Large4U
      @2Large4U 4 роки тому +1

      @@CharlesMeriot Certainly! Thank you for what you do! I've taken more in theory and ideas than I've given haha, time to give back. Okay great, I'll give that a shot

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому +1

      @@2Large4U haha really appreciate it man! Yeah time to join the microtonal gang

    • @2Large4U
      @2Large4U 4 роки тому +1

      @@CharlesMeriot Haha yes very soon, I'm still working with 12 TET so I'll get there 😎 lol

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому +1

      @@2Large4U yo good luck! and thanks so much man I really appreciate you watching my vids all this time it really means a lot and helps me continue making these!! xx

  • @bfox630
    @bfox630 3 роки тому +2

    Question for anyone who knows more music theory than I do, I am going to attempt this on one of my guitars, but I play in C standard, should I use this same fret layout or would it make more sense to alter it somehow? Not sure if it would make a difference or not..
    Edit: PS I'm going to try to make some drone/doom metal.

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  3 роки тому

      Hey I mean sounds fine to me :P i have been playing the gizz tuning c# f# c# f# b e because it is open tuning and basically its a bit "easier" to sound good... Im not sure where they got that from tho. For all the heavier stuff I always drop the low E down like a step ie drop D to sound more metal but idk its up to you :)

    • @johnsmith-ch7fg
      @johnsmith-ch7fg 3 роки тому +1

      I seen some say this sort of system isn't necessarily the best - it's basically a subset of 24EDO which makes it a slightly simpler fudge - it favours some arabic quartertones like neutral 3rds but a different subset might work better esp with a different string tuning and a full 24 tones widens the possibilities massively and every key has all possibilities rather than different quartertones appearing in different keys; I can't guess how different string tuning might work since I use other equal tuning systems except on my keyboard which I mostly tune in 'just intonation' which is a whole bunch of tuning systems based on a different principle (whole number ratios)

  • @albert_ters
    @albert_ters Рік тому

    Hi dear why did you remove the frets at beginning?

  • @allesschweine2683
    @allesschweine2683 3 роки тому +2

    Hey, thanx for the great video! :) It motivated me to do the same. I have a Squier Telecaster Neck and I am not really sure if i have to get rid of all the frets or if i can just add the new frets if i order the standard fender frets. Because I am worried to damage the neck with removing the frets.

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  3 роки тому +2

      hey man! I mean up to you, you can technically just add the frets if you want, I just took them off because I wanted to make sure they were all the same. otherwise it really doesnt damage the wood much anyway! plz like and subscribe and click the links in bio

  • @gaboasdip1428
    @gaboasdip1428 3 роки тому

    Afinación???

  • @matthiaswilhelm9813
    @matthiaswilhelm9813 Рік тому +1

    Yes,microtonal.Bach ist the Cent-Faker and Undertaker🎯💖💀

  • @raenoldparkin
    @raenoldparkin 8 місяців тому

    Why do you need to take frets out. Can't you just put frets in between the preexisting ones.

  • @binarahmad6050
    @binarahmad6050 4 роки тому +7

    tuning? sounds like u use different tuning

    • @binarahmad6050
      @binarahmad6050 4 роки тому +1

      or different strings?

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому +9

      @@binarahmad6050 yes I didnt mention it, its the gizzard tuning from Flying Microtonal Banana - C# F# C# F# B E

    • @binarahmad6050
      @binarahmad6050 4 роки тому

      @@CharlesMeriot thank you!

  • @gizzhead7941
    @gizzhead7941 4 роки тому +8

    Too cool man. You should find 6 other guys and do complete covers of King Gizz songs. lol

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому +3

      Lol yeah I have plans but need more $

  • @klisd
    @klisd 3 роки тому +1

    please, how do you know which King Gizzard scale applies to your music? do they have a scaling system of their own? or is it based on some oriental or do they just split the semitone cent in half? I have no idea how to learn to play a song from them.

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  3 роки тому +1

      Theres not really ONE scale... the tuning has a very unique sound C# F# c# f# b e and the microtonal notes are only used to accentuate tension rather than really a full note. It's like passing notes they will but microtonal on the 6th and sometimes 2nd ish of try dorian scale, they will switch between that, and Aeolian usually...

    • @klisd
      @klisd 3 роки тому

      @@CharlesMeriot OK. Thanks for the feedback. I am trying to do an academic article on microtonalism of music made today, I study at a Brazilian university. I really wanted to know how to theoretically expose the system of just one King Gizzard song as an example. Did you find this out by ear? or is there any material from them?

  • @Sat4Synth
    @Sat4Synth Рік тому

    What is the tuning?

  • @josephlay952
    @josephlay952 4 роки тому +4

    "When you click the link its helps"
    Me- well shit clicking links aint hard fuck it ill click every single one

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому

      Hahah thanks :) one is plenty! basically affiliate links mean if you click, I get a tiny percentage of what you buy, if you buy something off amazon in the next 30 days

  • @zachdemarco9394
    @zachdemarco9394 3 роки тому +1

    What’s the first song you played on the guitar?

  • @ClaudeFrank
    @ClaudeFrank 4 роки тому +1

    Just curious-what's the advantage to this over just going full on fretless?

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому +2

      Yeah I guess this feels like a normal guitar with more frets whereas playing a fretless is prob more similar to say a violin in terms of neck. Fretless also will sound a lot more slide-y if that makes sense claude. Plz like and sub and click and the amazon links in bio :)

  • @zachdemarco9394
    @zachdemarco9394 3 роки тому +1

    What sound are you playing about 8 minutes in?

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  3 роки тому

      Was from youtube free music called Oud Dance if I remember correctly

    • @zachdemarco9394
      @zachdemarco9394 3 роки тому

      I just watched it I’m not sure if that was it. It was the first song you played on the guitar

    • @zachdemarco9394
      @zachdemarco9394 3 роки тому

      I just got mine up and running after watching your video now I’m trying to learn some songs with it

  • @pisspp9059
    @pisspp9059 4 роки тому +2

    Wish they’d make stick on frets hahaha
    I’d totally do what ur doing but I have no experience with guitar tech and I’m afraid I’d destroy it haha

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому +2

      I have no idea what I was doing either its not as hard as you think! Otherwise hit Tyler up

    • @mehmetkahraman3511
      @mehmetkahraman3511 4 роки тому +2

      check out microtnal guitar by a turkish dude. he is using matches and sticking it on the fret with cellular tape

    • @johnsmith-ch7fg
      @johnsmith-ch7fg 3 роки тому

      @@mehmetkahraman3511 you can actually buy fretlets off him

    • @johnsmith-ch7fg
      @johnsmith-ch7fg 3 роки тому

      @Piss Pp just get a guitar repairist to do it

  • @rorykillian749
    @rorykillian749 4 роки тому +4

    YESSIR

  • @Shygster
    @Shygster 2 роки тому

    Did you put in some new pickups or are those still stock in your microtonal covers? They sound good

  • @reviewinc.9695
    @reviewinc.9695 4 роки тому +2

    nice

  • @delfinoneuroticon951
    @delfinoneuroticon951 10 місяців тому

    a really hard work

  • @ryannebrich9869
    @ryannebrich9869 4 роки тому +5

    When you notice he doesn’t know how to use calipers just flip em around and measure

  • @MrGleboPedo
    @MrGleboPedo 2 місяці тому

    Neck built, next question: how tf you play it 😂

  • @zachdemarco9394
    @zachdemarco9394 3 роки тому +1

    8:34

  • @0000song0000
    @0000song0000 3 роки тому +3

    didnt know Justin Trudeau's brother was into guitar modding 😲 cool

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  3 роки тому +1

      Actually I am the real justin trudeau he is my twin brother who lied about his name and locked me in his basement :0

  • @reach5741
    @reach5741 4 роки тому +1

    clicked a bunch of those links to give you that affiliate moni !!!

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому

      thanks so much lol I really appreciate it reach :P that's awesome!!!!

  • @ruzgaraydnsaglam1708
    @ruzgaraydnsaglam1708 2 роки тому

    Harika çok güzel

  • @bandi_TEE
    @bandi_TEE 4 роки тому +2

    You need to know how a traditional arabic song sound so you can make a good microtonal riff
    Search for
    ((عود شعبي))
    In youtube
    ~❤

    • @CharlesMeriot
      @CharlesMeriot  4 роки тому

      Thanks bandi thats great :) I'll definitely check it out been looking for some good arabic riffs

    • @johnsmith-ch7fg
      @johnsmith-ch7fg 3 роки тому

      There's a whole world of microtonal riffs with nothing in common with arabic microtones

    • @bandi_TEE
      @bandi_TEE 3 роки тому

      @@johnsmith-ch7fg i know but most microtonal music is arabic or turkish which sound similar

  • @deathpony698
    @deathpony698 4 роки тому

    4:12 AAAAAAAAAh you're not using the caliper correctly here, you should be using the other jaws

  • @luukderuijter1332
    @luukderuijter1332 8 місяців тому

    Oh god, do not put the frets in the middle. That will give you the wrong intonation.
    You should cut them in a weird non rational ratio, namely: 1/sqrt(2) which is about 0.707

  • @vlasberezovyi1064
    @vlasberezovyi1064 2 роки тому

    interesting)