Great video. I've been a full time SEO since 2018, who has always had a passion for learning web design and development. So, after so many algorithm updates over the last year or so, I have pivoted off to web/sales funnel design. I am not completely new to web design - but I am new to Webflow, which is what I plan to use.
Lol, also the dumbest statement i've heard in the entire year. It literally doesn't mean anything. He just took two random extreme numbers and tried to make a case out of it. As if the numbers he gave as an example were connected to something. Why 0% of 74 000? lol! Why not 50%? Or 20% or hell even 1% of 74 000 is 20x times more clients than 100% out of 40. Tbh the entire video is low value with a ridicilous amount of snake oil salesman pitch. But i guess that works on a lot of people...
Awesome video Payton! Ive been running my agency for about 9 years, and in 2020, I pivoted the company from doing general web development and app development to SPECIFICALLY Webflow websites + monthly support/hosting plans. In the 9 years running the company, that was easily the best business decision we’ve made.
Please correct me If I am wrong. End of the day, Client needs Good Looking, Smooth Working, Fast Loading Website. Website backend could be anything. Can't we earn more leads and money using other technologies ? Why just to use or have specific Webflow website ? For me some reason, I am seeing this as a Webflow advertisement.
It's about niching down, and generating more leads, because companies specifically look for Webflow experts, rather than 'web designers', which is just too generic.
Niching down helps you be known as an expert in a specific field, or in this case a tool ✨ Clients are always looking to find experts and will pay double the amount of a generic web designer 🚀 Congrats Payton! 🔥
I’m starting a freelance company focused on Webflow websites. It’s really good to see this video! I have 25+ years experience but I’ve been teaching college for the past 8. I used Webflow the past 2 years for my classes. I have the 3 certifications, I just need to get some client sites out. My biggest issue is I have a tiny portfolio right now. I’ve built over 200 sites in my career, but most of them have been redesigned over the past few years while I’ve been teaching.
This video is timely as I have elected to be all in with Webflow. Coming from Wordpress and Elementor, I wanted to change my direction and be an expert with Webflow. Thanks for this info.
@@musfiqaabid3401 I started as a web designer and quickly added brand strategy to my skillset in order to be a better designer. My web design / development primarily consisted of Wordpress / Elementor and use coding rather than add more bloat in the form of plug-ins. At least whenever possible. I had my eye on Webflow for a while and considered it early on in my career but the internet eco-system is made up of almost 40% wordpress so I thought it made sense to start there. No regrets, but Webflow has, in my opinion, evolved to such a degree that I simply can no longer ignore it. Adding Webflow is the next logical step for me.
@@ARNBNDL I certainly do. Webflow has come a long way. I have kept my eye on it for some time. at the beginning of my web design career, I decided to learn WordPress first since it is used in about 40% of the internet's ecosystem. But it's a pain to use and the maintenance needed is just draining. Webflow offer much more. Since this video, I have dived head first in my learning and haven't looked back.
Very veeeery good video. I'm about to start my carrer as a webdesign freelancer and I am overwhelmed by the amount of web designers and agencies on offer. I'm going to start the expert course right now. Greetings from Germany
I am a java serverside web developer for 15 years. I have many wordpress websites. I never used webflow . Your video forces me to learn webflow . Thanks 😅😅. I think i saw your face in udemy or skillshare 😊😊
Thanks a lot, Payton! I always appreciate that you bring a million-dollar knowledge for us to move forward with a career in Webflow as a web designer. I have seen many other Webflow-based videos but I must say that no one is delivering such kind of knowledge as you are. I have a goal to learn Webflow this year. Thanks for motivating us!
Being 'officially certified' is not a requirement for building webflow sites and making money. I've been building webflow sites for 2 years and I have not taken the certification course. I might do it sometime.
Got to work with Ziga at Flowout on one of my large projects, his product and service was promising. However, he ghosted me before the project was 100% completed. Glad to see him getting recognition, but my experience with Flowout left a lot to be desired.
You're sending a lot of mixed messages here. Two years ago we saw posts like "My Journey to Becoming a 6-Figure Designer" and "The Secret to $9,000 Per Month as a Web Designer." More recently we've been seeing "Web design is dying..." and "Designer Salaries and the Dark Future of Our Careers". Now it's back to "The Webflow Niche is a Goldmine..." Which is it?
My message is consistent☺️ My more “negative” videos contain warnings about real concerns I have about the web design industry. These videos show how to overcome those and succeed. I don’t want to sugar coat everything and pretend like it’s all 🌈🦄. No career path is perfect or easy. But this is the one I have chose and I do believe you can succeed in it!
(d9resperado) Your comments are brilliant. When anyone says "make a zillion doing ___________" and I will show you how, I raise an instant BS flag. The message merely appeals to your inner financial needs and falsely(usually) builds confidence that if you only spend $xxxx.xx suddenly the whole world is your oyster for the taking, and don't forget, you can do this work on a breach in the tropics of some super beautiful island with other expats of your ilk. I say, run as fast as you can away from snake oil. Skillshare, Brilliant, and the hundred AI apps that appear each month are more than enough to teach you anything you need, and show you strategies for how to effectively advertise your business (whatever it is) and earn a living. Wishing you the very best of luck in your path and every success.
What if I just add it as one of my service pages to create a landing page for people looking for Webflow specifically? I use WordPress for complex sites and can do Webflow for simpler sites already. I suppose I should advertise that somewhere.
Great video thanks! I am a graphic designer looking into learning and focusing more on web design. I am seeing a lot of reviews and videos online that recommend shifting to or starting with Framer, but after watching your video it seems Webflow would be better positioned in selling for this niche as it has been longer in the market and more known by businesses. What do I think?
Thanks a ton for all the information. Love your content. I'm going work my way to getting that webflow expert certificate 💪 ( I think it would be nice to have a quick introduction to who you are at the beginning of the video. )
I want to start my journey on Web Design but I wanted to try with Framer Design. I thought the webflow thing was way saturated but your video inspired to dig deep in my reflexion. Any advice my design community?
Every other digital services are quickly converting into red ocean. You may find framer also in a saturated place by the end of the year. No one can predict I guess. In the glorifying world of freelancing supply of freelancers are constantly increase and demand ( clients ) is much limited.
i've always been interested in building with webflow, I've been trying Wordpress for a couple days but seriously I hate it :') people love it because they can have freedom to manage their site alone but I'm tired of this, and actually people who want Wordpress website always try to give price for our work cuz they think it's easy! well ... not only this, in Wordpress isn't that comfortable to work with code so, I'm just thinking about to move to webflow but the thing is, can I start with it for free? or I must buy it's workplace plan and also the site plan to use the custom domain?
Hello Payton, thanks for this video ,started learning webflow few weeks ago ,my main question is how do I build my webflow portfolio without having to pay the monthly subscription, I'm a college student and a Nigerian paying the monthly subscription is not viable for me right now
Just sign up, your first project in Webflow is free. As far as I know you can iterate on it as long as you want, until you learn it. Also if youre a student, your uni might have access to some type of discount, maybe you can rsearch if it is true and get an uni admin to make it available.
open multiple free webflow accounts, each account gives 2 free project qouta, open as many as you need. 3 accounts = 6 projects you can use in your portfolio
I really love that Flowout but OMG .. the pricing .. I assume they probably are really successful and popular .. Is that just them or is that Webflow in general? It seems reasonable from someone whose net salary is $7k a month I guess.. I work as a subcontractor and my employer's clients pay us on a basis like that so. I dunno. I am guessing they have a huge team.. I see you have a video on how YOU price your webflow services.. Is it possible to maybe do webflow and other stuff as well like React?
For those considering Framer, Framer is totally out with their pricing if you want to have different locales. $40 per locale? Silly. I'll stick with Webflow.
i watched a video recently that framer is going to be the one to use is that true? For someone wanting to learn web design should i use framer? ( its like a newbie asking whether to learn figma or adobe xd/ sketch haha)
You said “[messy CSS]…usually it’s difficult for them to update their site” Another reason why Webflow is not good for clients managing their own site. They want a high quality website but need to hire someone to make basic changes anyway.
I disagree on this one, especially on that "tagline" mentioning Webflow. Most businesses don't give a crap if you're using Wordpress, Webflow or even Wix or anything else for that matter. All a business want it's something they can be proud of and generate leads.
This is actually not true. I have leads all the time specifically requesting to move their site to Webflow! Local businesses might not care but larger businesses often research what platform is best to build their site and then reach out to an expert with that tool. It works 👍🏻
Holy. Shit. That’s all I have to say about this video. I guess I should also mention I feel enlightened to a whole new way to view this industry I’m trying to get into. Thanks for all you do!!
Single Focus Business concentrating on Single Niches with quality products, Out Perform Multiple Niches by 93.5%, basically nearly all the time in long term revenue and profits. Concentrate on One and be the Best at it. Very powerful and profitable. And you are not having to stretch yourself all over the place trying to catch up all the time because yr always behind, thus failing to give yr best service to yr clients. K
Great video. I've been a full time SEO since 2018, who has always had a passion for learning web design and development.
So, after so many algorithm updates over the last year or so, I have pivoted off to web/sales funnel design.
I am not completely new to web design - but I am new to Webflow, which is what I plan to use.
This is awesome thanks for sharing! 👊🏻 Webflow is 🔥🔥
The best statement I loved "If I were you, I would choose 100% of 40 clients than 0% of 74,000 clients"
Lol, also the dumbest statement i've heard in the entire year. It literally doesn't mean anything. He just took two random extreme numbers and tried to make a case out of it. As if the numbers he gave as an example were connected to something. Why 0% of 74 000? lol! Why not 50%? Or 20% or hell even 1% of 74 000 is 20x times more clients than 100% out of 40. Tbh the entire video is low value with a ridicilous amount of snake oil salesman pitch. But i guess that works on a lot of people...
I just became an expert a week ago. Already got 2 inquiries, I’m shocked!
It's the best!
How do you generate leads? I means what is your primary lead source?
@@dishankshah5080 I dont. Do great work, and they will come.
@@matanassulin exactly have a great portfolio
How long did it take you to do the expert course?
Awesome video Payton! Ive been running my agency for about 9 years, and in 2020, I pivoted the company from doing general web development and app development to SPECIFICALLY Webflow websites + monthly support/hosting plans.
In the 9 years running the company, that was easily the best business decision we’ve made.
Why, what's the difference between the two?
Hi, I was under the impression that Webflow takes care of hosting. What services do you offer in your monthly plans?
Please correct me If I am wrong.
End of the day, Client needs Good Looking, Smooth Working, Fast Loading Website.
Website backend could be anything.
Can't we earn more leads and money using other technologies ?
Why just to use or have specific Webflow website ?
For me some reason, I am seeing this as a Webflow advertisement.
It's about niching down, and generating more leads, because companies specifically look for Webflow experts, rather than 'web designers', which is just too generic.
Niching down helps you be known as an expert in a specific field, or in this case a tool ✨ Clients are always looking to find experts and will pay double the amount of a generic web designer 🚀 Congrats Payton! 🔥
I ve finished my second school for front end engineering but my passion goes towards web design. Now I know the Webflow is the thing! Thank u
I’m starting a freelance company focused on Webflow websites. It’s really good to see this video! I have 25+ years experience but I’ve been teaching college for the past 8. I used Webflow the past 2 years for my classes. I have the 3 certifications, I just need to get some client sites out. My biggest issue is I have a tiny portfolio right now. I’ve built over 200 sites in my career, but most of them have been redesigned over the past few years while I’ve been teaching.
How's it going?
I've been learning webflow the past few weeks, and this is giving me some inspiration to keep on the path!
How did it work out for you?
Semflow was a golden tip
This video is timely as I have elected to be all in with Webflow. Coming from Wordpress and Elementor, I wanted to change my direction and be an expert with Webflow.
Thanks for this info.
Same as me. Right now.
Can you please share your basic skill set before going all in webflow?
@@musfiqaabid3401 I started as a web designer and quickly added brand strategy to my skillset in order to be a better designer.
My web design / development primarily consisted of Wordpress / Elementor and use coding rather than add more bloat in the form of plug-ins. At least whenever possible.
I had my eye on Webflow for a while and considered it early on in my career but the internet eco-system is made up of almost 40% wordpress so I thought it made sense to start there. No regrets, but Webflow has, in my opinion, evolved to such a degree that I simply can no longer ignore it. Adding Webflow is the next logical step for me.
@@danplumadore647 Dan do you think its still à good idea for a total beginner to start with webflow?
@@ARNBNDL I certainly do.
Webflow has come a long way. I have kept my eye on it for some time.
at the beginning of my web design career, I decided to learn WordPress first since it is used in about 40% of the internet's ecosystem. But it's a pain to use and the maintenance needed is just draining.
Webflow offer much more. Since this video, I have dived head first in my learning and haven't looked back.
Very veeeery good video. I'm about to start my carrer as a webdesign freelancer and I am overwhelmed by the amount of web designers and agencies on offer.
I'm going to start the expert course right now. Greetings from Germany
I am a java serverside web developer for 15 years. I have many wordpress websites. I never used webflow . Your video forces me to learn webflow . Thanks 😅😅. I think i saw your face in udemy or skillshare 😊😊
I like this 👏🏽 I was introduced to webflow years ago, but I went down DEV route. I think now is a good time to integrate both.
When I saw mamba mentality on the shelf. I was sold.
Thanks a lot, Payton! I always appreciate that you bring a million-dollar knowledge for us to move forward with a career in Webflow as a web designer. I have seen many other Webflow-based videos but I must say that no one is delivering such kind of knowledge as you are. I have a goal to learn Webflow this year. Thanks for motivating us!
Very kind of you, thank you! 🙏🏼
I was a Flash expert back in the day. Aside from security and bandwidth concerns it was very similar. (ready for unfounded backlash - lol)
what did you use to check the SEO keywords?
5:03 what is "3 customer projects"? Customers you get on your own? They provide the customers for you?
Great video! Do you see a difference in showcase your project in the profile or workspace public page?
Being 'officially certified' is not a requirement for building webflow sites and making money. I've been building webflow sites for 2 years and I have not taken the certification course.
I might do it sometime.
How much do you make? What's your average, minimum and maximum in last 24 months? Be the reason to motivate potential high talent.
Still no idea what 'Webflow' actually is. Great job explaining that key part.
Got to work with Ziga at Flowout on one of my large projects, his product and service was promising. However, he ghosted me before the project was 100% completed. Glad to see him getting recognition, but my experience with Flowout left a lot to be desired.
You're sending a lot of mixed messages here. Two years ago we saw posts like "My Journey to Becoming a 6-Figure Designer" and "The Secret to $9,000 Per Month as a Web Designer." More recently we've been seeing "Web design is dying..." and "Designer Salaries and the Dark Future of Our Careers". Now it's back to "The Webflow Niche is a Goldmine..." Which is it?
My message is consistent☺️
My more “negative” videos contain warnings about real concerns I have about the web design industry. These videos show how to overcome those and succeed. I don’t want to sugar coat everything and pretend like it’s all 🌈🦄.
No career path is perfect or easy. But this is the one I have chose and I do believe you can succeed in it!
(d9resperado) Your comments are brilliant. When anyone says "make a zillion doing ___________" and I will show you how, I raise an instant BS flag. The message merely appeals to your inner financial needs and falsely(usually) builds confidence that if you only spend $xxxx.xx suddenly the whole world is your oyster for the taking, and don't forget, you can do this work on a breach in the tropics of some super beautiful island with other expats of your ilk. I say, run as fast as you can away from snake oil. Skillshare, Brilliant, and the hundred AI apps that appear each month are more than enough to teach you anything you need, and show you strategies for how to effectively advertise your business (whatever it is) and earn a living. Wishing you the very best of luck in your path and every success.
Where to get 3 webflow customers?
do i need to know web development skills first or can i learn it from scratch?
Hey Payton, does booking / scheduling website design consider as niche? I got some car dealership, real estate agent and interior design firm client.
Excellent advice/video. How much time did it take you to learn Webflow so that your acquired knowledge became profitable?
Which tool did you use to check the keywords @6:45 ?
Commenting to find out!
It's called SEMRUSH
What if I just add it as one of my service pages to create a landing page for people looking for Webflow specifically? I use WordPress for complex sites and can do Webflow for simpler sites already. I suppose I should advertise that somewhere.
Great video thanks! I am a graphic designer looking into learning and focusing more on web design. I am seeing a lot of reviews and videos online that recommend shifting to or starting with Framer, but after watching your video it seems Webflow would be better positioned in selling for this niche as it has been longer in the market and more known by businesses. What do I think?
Why exactly is Webflow-Website higher value than WordPress? (4:15)
Thanks a ton for all the information. Love your content. I'm going work my way to getting that webflow expert certificate 💪
( I think it would be nice to have a quick introduction to who you are at the beginning of the video. )
Good luck!! 🔥
@@PaytonClarkSmith thanks🤍 I will keep learning from you too.
I want to start my journey on Web Design but I wanted to try with Framer Design. I thought the webflow thing was way saturated but your video inspired to dig deep in my reflexion.
Any advice my design community?
Every other digital services are quickly converting into red ocean. You may find framer also in a saturated place by the end of the year. No one can predict I guess. In the glorifying world of freelancing supply of freelancers are constantly increase and demand ( clients ) is much limited.
@@dishankshah5080 thanks for sharing your thoughts
@@dishankshah5080 so you mean its not à good idea to start on webflow in 2023 for a beginner? Thanks
i've always been interested in building with webflow, I've been trying Wordpress for a couple days but seriously I hate it :') people love it because they can have freedom to manage their site alone but I'm tired of this, and actually people who want Wordpress website always try to give price for our work cuz they think it's easy! well ... not only this, in Wordpress isn't that comfortable to work with code so, I'm just thinking about to move to webflow but the thing is, can I start with it for free? or I must buy it's workplace plan and also the site plan to use the custom domain?
Hello Payton, thanks for this video ,started learning webflow few weeks ago ,my main question is how do I build my webflow portfolio without having to pay the monthly subscription, I'm a college student and a Nigerian paying the monthly subscription is not viable for me right now
Just sign up, your first project in Webflow is free. As far as I know you can iterate on it as long as you want, until you learn it.
Also if youre a student, your uni might have access to some type of discount, maybe you can rsearch if it is true and get an uni admin to make it available.
you can make a webflow account and select the free plan. You get 2 websites to build completely free
open multiple free webflow accounts, each account gives 2 free project qouta, open as many as you need. 3 accounts = 6 projects you can use in your portfolio
@@LorettaBangBang okay. Good . And what about after that?
What if I am a total beginner? Do i have any chance to make it as a beginner? What is the cost of the certification? (Cost isnt mentioned)
Your best vid so far man! Incredible content. 🙏🏼
I really love that Flowout but OMG .. the pricing .. I assume they probably are really successful and popular .. Is that just them or is that Webflow in general?
It seems reasonable from someone whose net salary is $7k a month I guess.. I work as a subcontractor and my employer's clients pay us on a basis like that so. I dunno. I am guessing they have a huge team.. I see you have a video on how YOU price your webflow services..
Is it possible to maybe do webflow and other stuff as well like React?
I see a lot of vids that recommend to niche down. I will follow your advice.
Can I also use Semflow for German Websites?
For those considering Framer, Framer is totally out with their pricing if you want to have different locales. $40 per locale? Silly. I'll stick with Webflow.
Hey Payton! I want to ask you can I Niche down my business using Editor x only not webflow?
Is the course at webflow university enough to become a webflow expert
Do they still require assessment of client sites (class naming, style guide etc)
Yes they do
Gold knowledge as always! Greetings from Greece!
Love everything about this video and love Semflow. ❤
So glad to hear this!
Thanks for sharing Payton 😃
So you think IT IS a good Idea to become a webflow & bubble Designer/Developer? Which Plattform do you think has a brighter Future and why?
thank you for this it has given me hope in my future
Do you use figma for design or another tool?
i watched a video recently that framer is going to be the one to use is that true? For someone wanting to learn web design should i use framer? ( its like a newbie asking whether to learn figma or adobe xd/ sketch haha)
Can I take this expert course as a beginner without any sample of work to submit?
Hello, could you kindly help me with a couple of website errors.
So for Blogging is Webflow better than wordpress?
You said “[messy CSS]…usually it’s difficult for them to update their site”
Another reason why Webflow is not good for clients managing their own site. They want a high quality website but need to hire someone to make basic changes anyway.
Thanks, the video was most informative. Where would we offer web development services for Webflow?
Great vid! Can this work for framer too?
Technically yes. It work for everything, but the level of success (money, recognition étc) will dépends also on Framer’s reputation and demands.
How much.
Wow Amazing Video. Thanks for that!
Thank you, is it possible to create a no code webflow Rental booking widget ?
I'm curios if Webflow has this features.
I disagree on this one, especially on that "tagline" mentioning Webflow. Most businesses don't give a crap if you're using Wordpress, Webflow or even Wix or anything else for that matter.
All a business want it's something they can be proud of and generate leads.
This is actually not true. I have leads all the time specifically requesting to move their site to Webflow!
Local businesses might not care but larger businesses often research what platform is best to build their site and then reach out to an expert with that tool.
It works 👍🏻
@@PaytonClarkSmith I was wrong then, thank you for the clarification.
People in my part of the planet all want Wordpress
Thanks for sharing detail and valuable content with us.👍
Might be your best video yet Payton!
What country is this applicable for?
Thanks for not pronoucing it "nitch". I appreciate it. :)
Looking for an agency as a webflow developer 👏
Hello Payton thanks for the video, Can you give me your opinion about hand coded websites ? (designing without web builders)
Is this still relevant now in June 2024? Like, it's a valid freelancing side hustle given the plethora of AI out there now going nuts?
This video is really great. Solid, actionable info presented at a very high level. Nicely done sir!
Holy. Shit. That’s all I have to say about this video. I guess I should also mention I feel enlightened to a whole new way to view this industry I’m trying to get into.
Thanks for all you do!!
56K Subscribers
56K Views
coincidence? :D
Thanks bro
Can u talk about how to make money be hosting websites on webflow
Good 1, i would like to work with you
I don't see why clients would care what tool you use
Fire content
If someone can pay $10 on Fiverr to build a website, then why would they be wasting thousands of dollars to basically achieve the same thing?
same reasone that make peoples buy 1600$ iphone instead of 90$ ones
That's a fucking great video
"The Riches Are In The Niches"
how's it going? xD
wow
Single Focus Business concentrating on Single Niches with quality products, Out Perform Multiple Niches by 93.5%, basically nearly all the time in long term revenue and profits. Concentrate on One and be the Best at it. Very powerful and profitable. And you are not having to stretch yourself all over the place trying to catch up all the time because yr always behind, thus failing to give yr best service to yr clients. K
Yea just learn to code.
lol makes a change to hear an American pronounce niche correctly 😂😂