The best part about this battle is that you kept your mottos: the guy who wants to teach things simplified used a sort of 'simple' approach, while the other guy who wants to make the web look cool uses code that looks really cool. Thanks guys!
box-shadow is virtually 80% of those challenges, ha ha. Kidding, but box-shadow is a neat trick, thanks Kevin for showing us its power. I also loved how you approached the 2nd challenge with border-radius and rotate, you nailed it right from the start :)
I really love watching these ones! It would be really cool to have you guys talk about your approaches together either after each battle or at the end. Love to see it. Kevin you are the best!
I have to admit the way Kevin used the box-shadow in the first challenge really makes him the CSS king. This technique already solved 20% of my issues.
Very interesting to watch how other people write their code, and great methodology for those learning on achieving what looks as hard/impossible at first.
I just went through Kevin's 21 Day Responsive Layouts Challenge and I'm 2/3 of the way through Kyle's CSS course. They are both amazing teachers. Watching them go at it was making me geek out lol we are going to need a round 3 of course...
I love how clear and concise the both of you are at describing your thought processes! And the transitions between battles was so sleek. Nice work all around both of you! If you ever want a challenge, I'll be waiting 😉
@@PascalxSome Maybe in the past, but if you speak in a fairly modern speaker. No one will answer you, not even the level meter. Likewise, your microphone will not delight you with autotune music. When it's in the speaker jack. But I guess, you mean the general way it works. 😁
I can tell that the obvious difference is that Kyle's style is very beginner friendly whilst Kevin's style is much more elegant, neither is wrong, but I really do like Kevin's way of writing CSS here.
What cool things I learned from this: - Attribute selectors (never used them before, but heard of it) - Place-items (never seen or heard of it, quite neat) - Box-shadow is too powerful!
Regardless of who the winner is, it's a real treat to watch how they approach a given challenge and work their way around it. I've learnt a lot watching you'll perform. Thankyou much K&K ))
I like your way of approaching things, I've seen your video when tried css battle live and once i saw that speaker the shadow approach snapped into my head, you help me think in a better way in css :)
Oh my god I had to pause halfway for a break, this was intense ha ha ha. It's incredible to see two people who are such geniuses with CSS approach things differently. When Kevin nailed the background shape for the eye, I stopped biting my nails and shouted YESSSS! ha ha ha - Also I noticed that Kevin can't stop being a teacher, even when he is in a challenge. I learn so much from them!
I can't get my head around positioning in CSS. Even in this video - everything is jumping around randomly until you get all the magic spell correct. "It's leviOsa, not levioSA!".
I love watching these video's -> You guys are so talented and it inspires others to practice more! I completely understand the pressure of the timer... but the logic behind each of your coding skills is great! I love the approach that each of you takes and how each of you decide what is more important, for the sake of TIME! I think all-in-all, Kevin takes a better approach but that's debatable at times. Keep up the great work guys!!!
i like how close they are in skill, maybe be rivals since you alternated in wins for each challenge and have now a 1-1 record in who won in each of your videos!! Also, have a final round that is the hardest out of all of them with maybe a confusing picture or have to code for a specific look without the colours given to you but have all of them available to make like the mona lisa or something with the time being 20-30 mins
fair contest! It's great to see how other people would face the challenges. I would've totally went with stepped radial gradients for the first two. Loved the use of box-shadows in your third one.
Funny how my mind didn't even go to gradients at all, and now it'll probably be my go-to the next time I do one, lol. Always fun seeing different approaches to problems :D
Nice,very nice and creative to see what u did with box-shadow. Super creative, can't say enough,and this matches are really fun and are worth watching,keep doing these. Kevin is very talented and very confident to convey css lessons
I feel like, after getting into responsive things I knew pretty much a lot of CSS, but the more I look the more I am impressed on how little I know amazed buy this vid
** Best HTML/CSS3 How-To Video Yet. ** Really enjoyed this video. Not only did I watch two masters employ their vast knowledge, but totally enjoyed watching you both tear out your hair trying to come up with the answer. I've been dipping into CSS3 over the last few years, not serious about it until I started watching you and Kyle. But, despite all the effort, your videos put into understanding various elements and how to control them, this video showed both the how and application of when to use what knowledge. Also, I found it fascinating - to borrow from Mr. Spock - to see the different approaches. You have an eye for the aesthetics and Kyle is more mechanically/structure oriented. It showed me the many approaches programmers can use and that there is no wrong way to find the right answer. BTW: after watching y'all replicate the speaker and soundwaves I decided to give it a try too. I came up with a slightly different answer ... after ten hours.
This was so cool! Since I've started my coding journey I've focused more on the back end side of things, and was looking for ways to improve my css skills. I didn't know about CSS battle up until now! Thank you, this was exactly what I was looking for!
You both did insanely well on that last one. Kyle may have got it faster, but you still used an interesting approach to it. You are both winners. Both you and Kyle are great coders, and I have learned much from both of you. Keep up the fantastic work Kevin. Btw congrats on the 200k subs. You deserve it, or actually you deserve much more.
This was so much fun to watch! Congrats to both of you for figuring out those challenging problems. I never knew how powerful the box-shadow property was until I watched this video. Also it'd be awesome if people started hosting a CSS World Championship the way they host the FIFA World Cup for football. I would definitely watch that!
Maybe it's just the pressure of the 10 minutes, but I groaned when you chose to use IDs to save time. Potential specificity issues as well not being able to remember which is which! I'd love to fight you guys in this sometime! Haha.
The target from round 3 looks impossible to me. I tried to draw bars as 5 separate s, as one with gradient background, as one yellow with four yellow shadows - I could only get 99.9% but not 100%.
I am so new to CSS and I am looking at the first challenge to draw a speaker in CSS, and I can't stop watching, nor can I stop asking myself: "Why, but why!?" haha. Thank you!
I would love to see videos of you all comparing how you go the scores. All three battles you both did pretty different CSS, so seeing each others code and then the reactions to how the other person got to where they did would be interesting.
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the battle between King of CSS against the King Of Web Dev. I am fan of both. and these battles viewers are the winner who learn how to approach designing and how to plan them. great work both of you.
I think you should score it by percent avged: R1: 78.2 v 93.5 R2: 100 v 92.3 R3: 99.9 v 99.9 =========== 92.7 v 95.2 He wins, and its more "fair" for future battles.
Your CSS approach was more elegant and clever in regards to all the battles. Kyle's circles in the first battle weren't right at all (yours were perfect, just not placed right). In the second battle, your use of the transform was so smart. In the last battle, the box-shadow technique was brilliant. Great video!
I unearthed your channel while looking for CSS animation tricks a month ago, and I'm watching all your videos one by one. The best thing you've taught me so far is this trick of drawing concentric circles with box-shadow. I also subscribed to Web Dev Simplified's channel while looking for infinite scroll implementations in React recently. Both of you are awesome. More collabs please.
It's really fun lol 20:33, I love that guy! that's hilarious! and it's really interesting to see how you guys are approaching the problems.(An element with box-shadow and separate elements with named class styles) Thank you for the good video!
This was super nice to watch! Please make more battles you r awesome! For me it will definitely work better if I watch first one participant then the other it’s confusing to change constantly and try to re,ember where each one was left
I find it interesting how much both of you used percentages and flex. In the context of these challenges where you have a fixed resolution canvas (in the general use of the word), I would personally be using pixel values for almost everything. The context here is essentially raster graphics, so using responsive units and features so much seems like an invitation for things to go wrong. It would be interesting if there was a version of these battles where the result had to be responsive. I would expect that would be harder to have a grading algorithm for though. Maybe the same one could be used across a few different sizes?
Methinks (and numeric score proved that), round #3 for Kevin. Just because 10XX chars code better than 12XX, also pixel shading calculation for one div faster than for Kyle's bunch of dived (in this case, render requires to calculate every 4 dot positions for every div, and pixel shading calculates for the full stack of div layers), so box-shadow method to create stripes is faster (not so well as well, but faster because of using only 4 starting dots as precalculated for every next step)... and absolutely cool for circles in round #1.
Next video: "How to build a fully responsive website using nothing but the body element and 4000 box shadows"
hahhaah 😂😂😂
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Kevin: so if I use the box-shadow recursively I can create the necessary effect by only using one div
Kyle: LET'S STACK 19 DIVS ON TOP OF EACH OTHER
haha love both
I read box-shadow as shadow box the first 2 times I read this comment, I kept thinking of the movie Real Steal
@@AnthonyR007 Loved that, had the scene where max did three consecutive right hooks embedded on my mind
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That made me laugh quite hard :D
ima start using box-shadow for literally everything
Totally! I had no idea I could use it like that, so thanks a lot to Kevin!
Me too lmao; I didn't think you could use a mix of them like that; that's really great
i like how kevin use box-shadow , i learn alot 😂🥰
Timestamp?
@@surajborade6741 try 6:00, he used it in all challenges I believe
03:07 me whenever I try to understand CSS logic
Me as a fullstack developer when I have to style something
@@boggeshzahim3713 fact
😂😂😂😂😂
Till now i thought it happend with me only now I'm happy
1000px does it for me always
if nothing happens after that, then something is wrong
The best part about this battle is that you kept your mottos: the guy who wants to teach things simplified used a sort of 'simple' approach, while the other guy who wants to make the web look cool uses code that looks really cool. Thanks guys!
couldn't agree moreee. thumb up
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I love these challenges. Makes me feel great seeing pros having similar issues as me
I do, too, and suppose to be studying my coding, but I can't help, this, I love these videos. lo y u Con
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me feel the same!
in 10 minutes while I am struggling all the day long XD
@chadIG159 someone's mad
"box-shadow" should be the "hello world" equivalent of CSS
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20:33 - I had to replay this a few times, it was so impressive the way he got that eye shape thing spot on, starting with a square!
You should see his dance as well LOL 🤣
The Designer in him was activated.
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Even Kevin himself was surprised haha
So did I, a square turned by 45 degrees and a border radius of 50% at the top and at the bottom.
I love what you do. You actually understand CSS and thats what makes me wanna do that too. Thanks. Keep up the good work. 🔥
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Watching Kevin is like: "What the heck is he doing?" and then: "Oooooh...! WOW!"
True...
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Lmao
box-shadow is virtually 80% of those challenges, ha ha. Kidding, but box-shadow is a neat trick, thanks Kevin for showing us its power. I also loved how you approached the 2nd challenge with border-radius and rotate, you nailed it right from the start :)
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When you have a hammer, everything looks like a box shadow :D
I literally learned something from this. I think you can guess it too - it's the box-shadow!
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I really love watching these ones! It would be really cool to have you guys talk about your approaches together either after each battle or at the end. Love to see it. Kevin you are the best!
web dev simplified: you would loose this challenge 100%.
Kevin: Hold my box-shadow.
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I have to admit the way Kevin used the box-shadow in the first challenge really makes him the CSS king. This technique already solved 20% of my issues.
Very interesting to watch how other people write their code, and great methodology for those learning on achieving what looks as hard/impossible at first.
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Kyle: "99.9% that's painful" LOL
It is, because he's going against the king of css, so knowing that just because of a 0.1 he might get a loss or a tie he says it's painful
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I just went through Kevin's 21 Day Responsive Layouts Challenge and I'm 2/3 of the way through Kyle's CSS course. They are both amazing teachers. Watching them go at it was making me geek out lol we are going to need a round 3 of course...
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21 day is it challenge on UA-cam playlist or something else ?
That little "nailed" dance was precious
I love how clear and concise the both of you are at describing your thought processes! And the transitions between battles was so sleek. Nice work all around both of you! If you ever want a challenge, I'll be waiting 😉
I would watch a thousand of theseeee!! Also pull up dev ed! Would be hilarious too!
I totally want to see a Dev Ed in one of these. Maybe a all 3 at once
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Kevin: i hope Kyle is doing better!
kyle: i hope kevin somehow failed!
Me: PLEASE JUST CREATE A DIV THEN USE BORDER RADIUS ON THE 2 CORNERS AND THEN ROTATE IT.
Kevin: gotchu fam
Me: How'd they get those triangles to line up so well with that circle?
Kyle: I'm not sure, fam.
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0:54 Kyle calling a speaker a "microphone" -- not off to a very good start.
A Speaker is a microphone, and vice-versa.
@@PascalxSome Maybe in the past, but if you speak in a fairly modern speaker.
No one will answer you, not even the level meter.
Likewise, your microphone will not delight you with autotune music.
When it's in the speaker jack.
But I guess, you mean the general way it works. 😁
@@PascalxSome one's an output and the other's an input device, tf you saying.
@@modeal317 no. at the physical level, every speaker is a microphone and vice versa.
@@PascalxSome mind explaining that a bit more? I'm really curious about what you mean
I can tell that the obvious difference is that Kyle's style is very beginner friendly whilst Kevin's style is much more elegant, neither is wrong, but I really do like Kevin's way of writing CSS here.
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What cool things I learned from this:
- Attribute selectors (never used them before, but heard of it)
- Place-items (never seen or heard of it, quite neat)
- Box-shadow is too powerful!
Regardless of who the winner is, it's a real treat to watch how they approach a given challenge and work their way around it. I've learnt a lot watching you'll perform. Thankyou much K&K ))
I like your way of approaching things, I've seen your video when tried css battle live and once i saw that speaker the shadow approach snapped into my head, you help me think in a better way in css :)
Oh my god I had to pause halfway for a break, this was intense ha ha ha. It's incredible to see two people who are such geniuses with CSS approach things differently. When Kevin nailed the background shape for the eye, I stopped biting my nails and shouted YESSSS! ha ha ha - Also I noticed that Kevin can't stop being a teacher, even when he is in a challenge. I learn so much from them!
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I can't get my head around positioning in CSS. Even in this video - everything is jumping around randomly until you get all the magic spell correct. "It's leviOsa, not levioSA!".
Even though Kevin lost, those box-shadow tricks were sick! 🔥 I'll definitely start using box shadows more
"Why are they so far apart?!?" (-Kevin)
every goddam time dude
I love watching these video's -> You guys are so talented and it inspires others to practice more!
I completely understand the pressure of the timer... but the logic behind each of your coding skills is great!
I love the approach that each of you takes and how each of you decide what is more important, for the sake of TIME!
I think all-in-all, Kevin takes a better approach but that's debatable at times.
Keep up the great work guys!!!
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Duude, why I doubt when KYle saying "IT was ton of FUN!"
-- No emotion on his face, my boyy
The only way he could make the web this simple is that he is a ROBOT?? KYLE ROBOT CONFIRMED!!!
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@@lapluong928 no
i like how close they are in skill, maybe be rivals since you alternated in wins for each challenge and have now a 1-1 record in who won in each of your videos!!
Also, have a final round that is the hardest out of all of them with maybe a confusing picture or have to code for a specific look without the colours given to you but have all of them available to make like the mona lisa or something with the time being 20-30 mins
I’m new to css and this battle video is very inspiring and fun to watch!! The explanation of the thinking process is so helpful!
20:33 perfect display of this magical css moment :)
It was the most obvious solution, but it's nice when they get there
What's the difference using between deg and turn in the transform rotate? I often use like, rotate(50deg), what's the difference when 50turn?
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This video is almost addictive!
You guys are competing with each other and I am like: "I'm learning so much".
Really glad that you enjoyed it!
I have no idea box-shadow could be used like that. That was brilliant. Different approach from two CSS masters. Nice
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fair contest! It's great to see how other people would face the challenges. I would've totally went with stepped radial gradients for the first two. Loved the use of box-shadows in your third one.
Funny how my mind didn't even go to gradients at all, and now it'll probably be my go-to the next time I do one, lol.
Always fun seeing different approaches to problems :D
@@KevinPowell just tried it. Works, but I get jagged lines... not pretty
More these kinds of content are needed, so we can learn different approaches to solve problems.
Nice,very nice and creative to see what u did with box-shadow. Super creative, can't say enough,and this matches are really fun and are worth watching,keep doing these. Kevin is very talented and very confident to convey css lessons
One word: Awesome!
Like for more Kevin & Kyle collabs in the Near Future!
I feel like, after getting into responsive things I knew pretty much a lot of CSS, but the more I look the more I am impressed on how little I know
amazed buy this vid
4:58 I'm thinking why not use radial-gradient to do the rings in one fell swoop 🤔
You’re a genius m8!
That box shadow trick was so smart.
People get to learn so much just by watching this 💯
** Best HTML/CSS3 How-To Video Yet. ** Really enjoyed this video. Not only did I watch two masters employ their vast knowledge, but totally enjoyed watching you both tear out your hair trying to come up with the answer. I've been dipping into CSS3 over the last few years, not serious about it until I started watching you and Kyle. But, despite all the effort, your videos put into understanding various elements and how to control them, this video showed both the how and application of when to use what knowledge. Also, I found it fascinating - to borrow from Mr. Spock - to see the different approaches. You have an eye for the aesthetics and Kyle is more mechanically/structure oriented. It showed me the many approaches programmers can use and that there is no wrong way to find the right answer. BTW: after watching y'all replicate the speaker and soundwaves I decided to give it a try too. I came up with a slightly different answer ... after ten hours.
I was the whole video predicting steps aloud, but the multiple box-shadow trick made me open my eyes widely! Beautiful!
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@@int0therain44 what did I just read?
This was so cool! Since I've started my coding journey I've focused more on the back end side of things, and was looking for ways to improve my css skills. I didn't know about CSS battle up until now! Thank you, this was exactly what I was looking for!
You both did insanely well on that last one.
Kyle may have got it faster, but you still used an interesting approach to it. You are both winners.
Both you and Kyle are great coders, and I have learned much from both of you.
Keep up the fantastic work Kevin. Btw congrats on the 200k subs. You deserve it, or actually you deserve much more.
Nice use of box-shadow. I used background with repeating-linear-gradient (180deg, #F3AC3C 0px, #F3AC3C 20px, #1A4341 20px, #1A4341 40px).
Concedes the win! What a gentleman!
Also: seeing your approach to cssbattle makes me want to learn box-shadow.
This was so much fun to watch! Congrats to both of you for figuring out those challenging problems. I never knew how powerful the box-shadow property was until I watched this video.
Also it'd be awesome if people started hosting a CSS World Championship the way they host the FIFA World Cup for football. I would definitely watch that!
Maybe it's just the pressure of the 10 minutes, but I groaned when you chose to use IDs to save time. Potential specificity issues as well not being able to remember which is which! I'd love to fight you guys in this sometime! Haha.
The target from round 3 looks impossible to me. I tried to draw bars as 5 separate s, as one with gradient background, as one yellow with four yellow shadows - I could only get 99.9% but not 100%.
The last one was NOT A TIE! That's why there's a score as well as the percentage. Kevin brought it home a bit closer!
Yeah but kyle won ez
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It's amazing to see you guys in battle!
I even didn't know you two guys knew each other, I am the fans of both of you.😊
I am so new to CSS and I am looking at the first challenge to draw a speaker in CSS, and I can't stop watching, nor can I stop asking myself: "Why, but why!?" haha. Thank you!
I nailed it. That was genious Kevin
As a first-year CS student, this is very inspiring. I can learn while watching you guys into css battle. More battles to come po.
Want CSS battle between Kevin and "Coder Coder"
Planning some stuff with her, but she's a bit busy right now so it might be a bit ☺️
I would love to see videos of you all comparing how you go the scores. All three battles you both did pretty different CSS, so seeing each others code and then the reactions to how the other person got to where they did would be interesting.
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the battle between King of CSS against the King Of Web Dev. I am fan of both. and these battles viewers are the winner who learn how to approach designing and how to plan them. great work both of you.
We want bradtraversy,netninja
@@internet4543 Probably you haven't checked his other videos. He does flex box and grid css as well.
box-shadow coming in clutch!
i think you won the last battle, you've got a higher score than kayle,, he got 595.64 and you got 596.1, who else noticed that
I didnt know box shadow was this clutch
we want a tye break , really learned alot from this video different approach for similar problem ,great
Kevin: adds 7 attributes before seeing what's even happening
Kyle: red
Before watching, I think you beated him again :)
If you had bet on it, you would have lost.
This is nice seeing that there is no wrong way doing things. It’s just depends on a approach that someone takes. Nice video.
Glad you liked the video 😃
I think you should score it by percent avged:
R1: 78.2 v 93.5
R2: 100 v 92.3
R3: 99.9 v 99.9
===========
92.7 v 95.2
He wins, and its more "fair" for future battles.
Your CSS approach was more elegant and clever in regards to all the battles. Kyle's circles in the first battle weren't right at all (yours were perfect, just not placed right). In the second battle, your use of the transform was so smart. In the last battle, the box-shadow technique was brilliant. Great video!
That battler was amazing , I follow both of you hehe you make me love css
I unearthed your channel while looking for CSS animation tricks a month ago, and I'm watching all your videos one by one. The best thing you've taught me so far is this trick of drawing concentric circles with box-shadow.
I also subscribed to Web Dev Simplified's channel while looking for infinite scroll implementations in React recently.
Both of you are awesome. More collabs please.
Just discover this channel, literally a gold mine. Learned so much from this, thank you very much!
It's really fun lol 20:33, I love that guy! that's hilarious! and it's really interesting to see how you guys are approaching the problems.(An element with box-shadow and separate elements with named class styles) Thank you for the good video!
that should be a T-shirt, "All is fair in love and war...and CSS"
This was super nice to watch! Please make more battles you r awesome! For me it will definitely work better if I watch first one participant then the other it’s confusing to change constantly and try to re,ember where each one was left
Love it! More battles! :) Or challenges no matter with or without opponent.
Haha this video format is great! It's good watching them think under time pressure.
I love this, thanks for making me discover cssbattle
Very enjoyable to watch . You both are amazing , the best part is the box shadow trick 👍👍
This was very interesting to see the different thought processes in approaching CSS
This is entertaining! I'm having fun and learning some new stuffs while watching!
I find it interesting how much both of you used percentages and flex. In the context of these challenges where you have a fixed resolution canvas (in the general use of the word), I would personally be using pixel values for almost everything. The context here is essentially raster graphics, so using responsive units and features so much seems like an invitation for things to go wrong.
It would be interesting if there was a version of these battles where the result had to be responsive. I would expect that would be harder to have a grading algorithm for though. Maybe the same one could be used across a few different sizes?
Kevin, you nailed in box-shadow solution. you are truely the KING of CSS
I love both your channel and the only two channels i subscribe to, with all news alert.
VERY interesting to see an video both have you guys when i saw this clips in the recommended list.
That was so geekily COOL! Loved every minute of it. So look forward to seeing much, much more.
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I’m gonna have to give these a shot. I’m convinced I could rock them. I’m sure I can’t actually. Gotta get on y’all’s level!!
Kevin: Box Shadow EVERYWHERE
Kyle: Divs EVERYWHERE
Enjoyed! Please do more battles, it's fun to watch and we learn from you meanwhile
Box shadow trick 👌 so perfect
Methinks (and numeric score proved that), round #3 for Kevin. Just because 10XX chars code better than 12XX, also pixel shading calculation for one div faster than for Kyle's bunch of dived (in this case, render requires to calculate every 4 dot positions for every div, and pixel shading calculates for the full stack of div layers), so box-shadow method to create stripes is faster (not so well as well, but faster because of using only 4 starting dots as precalculated for every next step)... and absolutely cool for circles in round #1.
Kevin's dance at 20:30. lol. Small CSS victories make us do the funniest things
plz do more of these css battles...they are so fun to watch.