Next year i hope we play Bishop at slot all year, let the kids learn and grow. Look what he did as a undrafted free agent with a little time on the field under his belt.
@@Cardel34 This is absolutely the case. Purdy is the perfect example of the situation making the player. All too often, as in the case of Fields, the situation can help ruin -- or at least stunt -- the player's development. I loved Fields coming out. Had him ranked ahead of Lawrence for much of the offseason. In the end, I had them as 1 and 1A. But Chicago gave him nothing to work with.
"SHOCKING?" Tomlin was known as a defensive Coach the day he was hired. He has absolutely no clue on how to run an offense. He has no clue how the Offensive line runs blocking assignments for pass plays and running plays. He has no clue what routes are available to his wideouts, slot receivers, and tight ends. He has no clue on how his running backs run lanes are. Etc.
@dannyjohnson8122 ,Sorry that you don't understand that Tomlin spends no time on what his offensive coordinator is doing each game of the NFL season. Tomlin spends all his time on the defensive side of the ball every week of the season.
@LeslieLongJr I'm talking about deciding to punt when its 4th and inches or directing his Offensive Coordinator to be more aggressive on his calls. Everyone knows he comes from a defensive background but those are things a head coach can do.
Jalen hurts has said on multiple podcasts that his impression on draft night was that we were taking him. So much so, that when Philly did call him, he thought that it was the Pittsburgh area code. Also, we saw Baker for years in the division and we knew his downfall was due to injury (and being in Cleveland), how on earth do you not sign him instead of Mitch-6 Trubisky? Never going to be critical of the Lamar non-pick, that was Ben’s problem for being thin skinned about competition.
They knew Baker's flaws as much as anyone. When he's hot, he gets really hot. But he's also prone to mistakes. A younger version of Jameis Winston. Led the NFL in fumbles this season with 13.
I like the mock and I agree with the beef on the D line. Here's my mock that makes the most sense to win in 2025. 1) Tyleik Williams DT or Kenneth Mason DT. 2) Kaleb Johnson RB, CB, or WR 3) Interior O-lineman OG 4) RB or missing offensive player for development. Don't forget that Troy returns next season and he is slated to be RT, Broderick is being moved to LT once Dan Moore walks. Zach should be better next season while we will see what Mason can be. Seumalo is the weak link but the O-line is now rebuilt.
Just watched the Rams/Vikings. Something that stood out to me was they have tons of team speed on defense. I realize they only won 10 games but that speed on defense jumps of the screen and they are an offensive minded team.
Empty stats. One first down in the first quarter. No points in the first half. Headed to the locker room at halftime down 21-0. 3-and-outs all over the place. I think they passed on first down quite a bit. They put the game in Russ' hands. He fumbled it.
More like guys dropped the ball, and there was no run game to speak of. No offense is going to be successful that way. Everything is 3rd & long. They finished the game with 29 rushing yards. That can't happen.
I enjoy mock drafts tbh, but fellas, read the room. It's the episode after an embarrassing playoff defeat (another one). We're here to vent and have a group therapy session. The mocks have to wait at least a week.
Id assume they do the mock drafts because it's something that is always on the schedule. Plus I'm sure they would rather hold on to as much content as possible because from here on out content will be scarce
2 things: Wilson is more like Yoda (short &quirky), and 2, thanks for pushing to the draft on day one of the SNR postseason, I'm ready to forget about the 2024 season. Love the show.
Dale is an antidepressant in human form😅 He will look on the bright side of even the DARKEST of situations. You can give him the most horrendous situation, and he will somehow try to find those tiny, sometimes non-existent, bright spots. Cheers to you sir🫡 Matt is closer to a realist, but will go along to get along as much as he can.
Don't see much use in dwelling on negatives. You can learn from the negative stuff, but you can't dwell on them. You keep moving forward. Dwelling on the negative, I've found, is just depressing/frustrating. I'd rather look at how to solve the problem. That doesn't make me non-realistic. Don't know how that could be drawn from that. Just a different approach. I problem solve.
@dalelolley4100 I get it. And I appreciate that kind of mindset. Just to be clear, I wasn't saying that as an insult or in any kind of sarcastic way. It was just that every time things had been at their most bleak, you were always there pointing out any positives or even potential positives. I appreciate anyone with a positive mindset. I wish I could be that way. Unfortunately, I am more pessimistic than I would like, and that can be to my own detriment a lot of times. That was just a bit of a joke that hit me while watching the show😅 I was like, " damn, Dale is like antidepressants in human form. If you feel like everything is going wrong? Go talk to Dale, he will give you every possible positive thing he can find and maybe you will feel better.."😂 Love the show brother!! You and Matt do an amazing job. I wish I could do something in that space. Getting paid to talk Steelers football would be a dream come true... no matter how difficult the Steelers play may make it😅 Thanks brother🫡
@@xx1CRU That's what I'm here for. Been doing this a long time and always go back to the Bill Cowher-mantra. You can't get too high with the highs and too low with the lows. If ride that roller-coaster, it's an emotionally draining season, no matter how things turn out.
Look into jaxson dart for this draft, i like how he plays and he has a good release on him and if Steelers can get him in the qb room has qb2 i wouldn't be upset about it and i hope fields end up being qb1 for season 2025. Let me know what you feel about this.
I would 100% be down to take a shot on Milroe. I feel the same way. He has everything you need to be an elite QB in the league today. Only thing is, can he do it on the mental side. That is what these elite QB's can do. See the defense, recognize the potential weakness/soft spots, and make really quick decisions for where the ball needs to go. I know he isn't a guarantee, no QB is, but I think it would be worth it to take a shot with him. Even let him sit for a year and let Fields start next year🤷♂️
What does the division of labor look like between Tomlin and Austin when it comes to the defense? It definitely seems like the scheme is not getting the most out of the players.
The focus on Henry to the cost of Jackson running was maddening. Brought too few to the line to pressure them. TJ clearly had his instructions which he followed. But you have to recognise that this provides an option for Jackson and adjust or adapt the line to deal with it. Would rather have seen one more in the middle to take on Henry and have our wides rushing Lamar Jackson.
It doesn't matter what stats you put out there, this game felt bad from the start. The Steelers just didn't give me any confidence at any time. Lotta work to do in the off season.
The Steelers need pieces too. O line players that can block, receivers that can get open and if they keep Smith as OC two good tight ends. Top tier talent costs money, spend some
Man if we get Will Johnson and Kenneth Grant I'd be over the moon. More realistically it'll be CB Amos and DT TJ Sanders though. Great mock guys. I like the round 3 RB, the TE I'm not thrilled about, would prefer OT depth there instead, but who? I get it though.
The stats that Steelers at 6.2 but no time of possessions makes it clear you cannot win throwing moon balls people love big plays but you have to be able to run when you need to and you have to be able to hit the short and midrange passes. Yes once in a while Russ will throw one but that has not been his game for years. Russ is not the answer.
first and foremost you need a good head coach and good coordinators that can devise a good game plan and have good knowledge of the game to understand what is the other team is doing to them so they can adjust. MT won't cut it.
I know everyone is ready to jump off the cliff, but what can we take from this season? What is your opinion of the O line performance as a young unit? What can we reasonably expect to see from the group next year having some experience to look back on?
I have high hopes for the offensive line moving forward. Still a very young group. Would have loved to have gotten McCormick some playoff experience, but an injury is an injury. Fautanu might have been their best lineman at camp last summer. They were very excited about him. And Frazier is a stud, as well.
Tomlin actually said that he proudly carries the One & Done baggage. WTH. No Zay Flowers even. If you allow 300 yards rushing in the Playoffs, you’re soft.
What is your buddy who's a 49ers fan crying about? Lol, they just came off a Superbowl appearance where Purdy went toe to toe with Mahomes, but the o-line didn't hold up in OT. People say we're spoiled jeeze.
We need a running back that can run like Le'Veon Bell. Patience up behind Zach Frazier and the vision to take a route either side up the guts. Sick of watching Harris get the ball and just take off wide of centre. Warren does the right thing by going up the centre.but he is not built like Harris.
There's some skill there, but a little inconsistent. More of a pocket passer than I'd like for today's game, but he's not non-athletic - though tripping over his own feet with a sure touchdown in front of him last week didn't exactly show that.
Why in nickel defense so much, and who’s calling for that Austin, Tomlin ?? And why is Sutton on the field ? I hate to say this but…Ownership is soft !! No accountability, Mr.Rooney said last years debacle that “winning a playoff game was priority” I’m sure I was paraphrasing, but terrible game-plan , and they didn’t adjust ?? WTF…I have lost confidence in the coaching staff and ownership, and I have been a fan since 1969 😩 . It’s the same old thing, very predictable play calling from both sides of the ball !! I hate it !!
Austin makes the game-day play calls based on the game plan they draw up during the week, in which everyone plays a part. They adjusted, but in many cases, it was just the Ravens making plays. Lamar played outstanding.
If you can sign Justin Feilds two years, draft someone like Kevin Jennings (SMU) in the six or seventh round, You might not be able to develop him in a year... but you know you have a couple of QB's. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't but you have a couple of drafts since and better capital with players like Hayward and Watt retiring. That's ok with a coach like Tomlin who gets those 9 games with not the best QB's.
Jennings was pretty talented ... His team collapsed there at the end but your not looking for Tom Brady, Just a Dan Marino. 300 completions out of 500 attempts 5000 yards, 200 carries for about 500 yards basically over 2 years thats not snot
The Steelers lost by letting Henry and Jackson run the ball up their ass... the passing Game was aweful out there. Henry was close to a record. It was clear you had to hold both of them to under 100 combined. They were pretty close to 250 rushing yards combined
-Anybody still whining and crying about the Steelers being 9-point dogs? -This franchise has been outscored 63-0 in the 1st quarter its last five playoff games. Is that the players? They’ve been different, right? Different coordinators, right? Same head coach? Yes. -This franchise is soft. It just played out in front of the entire country. They’re soft. Is that the culture instilled by this head coach? -Harbaugh narrative…dead. He’s better than Tomlin. His team wins. His team beat up Tomlin’s. His team said we aren’t going to throw the ball. You know it, we know it, and we like it. Lamar narrative…dead. He wins playoff games. He beats the Steelers. Tomlin narrative…more alive than ever. -The Steelets got bullied. Not debatable. Is that the type of team we should want moving forward? Is that a well-coached team? -299 to 29. -Cleveland and Cincinnati have more recent playoff wins than the Steelers. -Russell Wilson did not have a winning record with the Steelers. 6-6. -20 consecutive games without scoring a TD on opening drive. Same head coach-different coordinators. -His last 127 snaps..0 tackles, 0 sacks, 0 pressures. Thats TJ Watt’s line. -The Ravens ran the ball 50 times. 50! And TJ Watt had ZERO stats. No tackles, no assists, nada. Was it this show glowing about his “run defense?” Roger Rosengarten is his daddy. -Is Tyler Linderbaum still too small? He beat up the Steelers. Beat.them.up. -Kendrick Green stinks. He’s another in a very long list of Colbert busts. Kendrink Green has more playoff wins than TJ Watt and Minkah Fitzpatrick combined. -No more talk about how good the Steelers are in primetime or stand alone games. 2-7 in 2024 in front of the national audience. And that doesn't count how they did it all in front of Hard Knocks. -The Steelers brand is trash. Every national show yesterday killed them. Bill Cowher killed them. Every single radio and tv show today killed them. That is most disheartening. -Glad we traded a fifth-round pick for Mike Williams and his 10 catches. Good job! -“We don’t live in our fears.” Unless its 4th down and an inch and you’re behind. Then you don’t go for it and throw in the towel. Weak. Soft. -“Nobody runs on this defense when Cam Heyward is on the field.” What show did I hear that on? -Ravens players laughing out loud on front of reporters about how thinly disguised the defense was. Mike Tomlin’s defense.
There are those who expected this. Hope for the best, prepare for the inevitable. Ben called out Tomlin's shortcomings in 2016 after the Dallas game. No discipline and a lack of accountability was the culture. Also known as a players coach, aka a cheerleader. Ben calling out the coach and players got them to win out and make the AFCC game, the last year they won a playoff game. Are our draft picks busts, or is it coaching. Our DB draft picks were good until LeBeau, the HOF CB, was forced out, then they were Burns, Davis Edmunds'esque. Tomlin is a good coach, not a great coach, and his deficiencies only allow us to win in the regular season. Just like Marty Schottenheimer. Art Rooney II mandated the return to smashmouth. Tomlin obliged. Tomlin runs the defense....and it looks the same since LeBeau was forced out. Art Rooney II political ideology only cares about one goal. Mike Tomlin will surpass Chuck Noll in 2026 for 9th most wins in NFL history. Actually, Tomlin will pass Marty Schottenheimer at #8. It is important to AR2, if it wasn't, Tomlin would have been asked to retire. Yet he received a contract extension until... Analyst Kirk Herbstreit during the game said, "Where the hell is the fight, this is the Pittsburgh Steelers, they're just going through the motions."
The Steelers finished 15th in overall DVOA (19th in offense, 8th in defense, and 2nd in special teams). In terms of weighted DVOA, they were the 2nd worst team that was in the playoffs (Houston was last). Baltimore finished the season as the 7th best DVOA in history. It sucks that we lost, but the Steelers just aren't in the top tier of teams. You can't bank on a defense winning games for you when your offense can't score points.
I don't understand how everyone is pissed off at a team that is clearly not a finished product. This is about where I expected them to be at the start of the season. Russ just happened to drive hope up until the final 4 weeks and the playoffs. They improved the oline, but it was made up of 2 rookies, a 2nd year tackle who was backsliding until near the end of the season, a 4th year tackle no fan seems to want (and who probably cost himself some money with his play at the end of the season), and even Seumalo was getting pushed around. And Pickens as your only true receiver was ridiculous, as was his attitude at times. They better find a replacement for him next year since he doesn't seem to want to be here, too bad it's not a stronger receiver class, because I would say sign a strong free agent wr and draft one high just in case he's an issue again. And the defense continues to show it still needs players, DL, CB, which need to be drafted high if free agents that fit our needs can't be found, but DL needs to get younger regardless. Though with the players they have, they definitely underperformed and the playoff scheme was laughable and frustrating to watch. Hire a new DC and get Tomlin's hands off it and force him into more of a CEO position. Curious to see what will actually occur. And had to laugh at the accidental Fountainhead reference with the two college qbs Howard and Rourke. Thanks guys! Was waiting to hear your perspective.
We tried to get wr this year and they all laughed in our faces we ended up with mike williams and yu guys think we can get one next year haha no one wants to come here the wr that we have dont wanna be here 😂😂😂
Matt, Dale, great show as always!...the defensive game plan was...terrible...and given that Tomlin is the de-facto DC...where is the accountability?...the Tomlin Millionaires in defense are useless if not use properly...so, in order to break the cycle of perpetual mediocrity, if Tomlin is not going away, why not try to relocate resources?... trade Watt, get picks, bring free agents on offense an a 21st century OC...or continue the insanity and run it back...this is so frustrating...
It is a misnomer to say Tomlin is the "defacto" defensive coordinator. He is in on discussions on the game plan -- as every head coach is -- but Austin makes the game day calls.
All around too sum up this season, I hv too say I'm pleased. if the turnout had been two or three playoff games deep it would hv been an success beyond matching the talent we HV. Rookies showcasings shouldn't go unnoticed. Z.f. & m.mc. p.wil b.bisp. Four draft picks outta 7 WITH roman n TroyF expectational guys factor and then the new addition on Mike Williams B++. Vaguely satisfied with our new Off coordinator posting 10 wins columns Highest Rated Off Ranks and DID IT WITH TWO DAMN GOOD QBS FOR a first time Shot 🥃. I'll still say Our wrs has to own possession s way More firepower 2 wr; should own 8/12 recs a game and our t.e.s get 10 between them a GAME. THATS JUST TO KEEP UP WITH THE 15 team's.... Harris please resign Let him chase our History in Backs he that 1 we gotta get Right mixed w Warren. Ca3 way to be there Respectfully. and V. Jefferson. Special teams Program A+. Coaching Its a B- On some real talk we left games on the field on both sides of the Ball. Only bc our coaches trust players to be electric and find their roles to create a format and formulas to play an win with gains make mistakes but not costly ones bc we have to stay connected and composed Routinely.this season should show we NOT gone have CALLS ON defenders holding our WRS and get NO P.INF CALLED. And we on defense have to learn more man to man and press man coverages our DBS play great but need to take containment of wide outs especially inside routes and middle intermediate levels We lost way bc we our players hv to b more better QBS SACKS N PRESSURE and that's our middle intermediate levels some deep Play. Allow our QBs2 stand in the pocket and make splays Defense C.
Lets get some more Defensive players like yu guys want so our offense sucks again next year good thinking sounds like the tomlin way. Yu guys thinking like that makes yu part of the problem
Fellas i love the show listen to all the fantasy advice and steelers inside. I hate to be the one to tell yu but no free agent wr is gonna sign here. Why would they. Defense doesn't win championships anymore. We already have a 140 million dollar Defense that offenses are steam rolling. Get offensive players in the draft cause free agency players aren't gonna wanna play for our shiity ass offense
Mediocre Mike strikes again. Nothing (of substance) is going to change.....there will be a fall-guy or 2 or 3 (coordinators), but the main problem will persist to another 9 or 10 win season and another one-and-done in the playoffs next year....what an incredible waste of many talented players over the years...we fans, and the city of Pittsburgh deserve better...smh...
Eagles won their first Super Bowl ever with a backup. Russ should be able to take this team to the next level. The defense is washed up and hasn’t aged well 3rd year guys are acting like rookies out there. Any more all pros that we sign from Baltimore are not going to fix our coaching and the lousy scheme
We all understand that you get paid by Pittsburgh Steelers play hey people read the room every Steelers fan demands change FYI 95% Steelers fans want Mike Tomlin gone I will not be watching your episode
Does that also mean you won't be commenting here anymore? I'll miss that. We were not kind to the team on today's show at all. Don't know what you wanted.
Next year i hope we play Bishop at slot all year, let the kids learn and grow. Look what he did as a undrafted free agent with a little time on the field under his belt.
Cam Scattebo looks like a Steeler
I LOVE IT It is never too early for a mock draft 👍😂 Ricky White wr UNLV had 4 blocked kicks this yr so he has st value too
TIME FOR THE DRIVE MOCK DRAFT SEASON FOR 30 WEEKS STRAIGHT YAYYY
im non ironically excited for the mocks lol just having fun
If the steelers had a crystal ball and took Purdy there's no way he's this successful in Pittsburgh
I think thats the story with a lot of qbs. Imagine if Justin Fields never got drafted by Chicago
@@Cardel34 This is absolutely the case. Purdy is the perfect example of the situation making the player. All too often, as in the case of Fields, the situation can help ruin -- or at least stunt -- the player's development. I loved Fields coming out. Had him ranked ahead of Lawrence for much of the offseason. In the end, I had them as 1 and 1A. But Chicago gave him nothing to work with.
@@dalelolley4100 I still have hope that he has enough time to turn it around. He’s young.
As a head coach, Tomlin seems to have no feel for offense whatsoever, which is shocking for the amount of time he's been in the league.
"SHOCKING?" Tomlin was known as a defensive Coach the day he was hired. He has absolutely no clue on how to run an offense. He has no clue how the Offensive line runs blocking assignments for pass plays and running plays. He has no clue what routes are available to his wideouts, slot receivers, and tight ends. He has no clue on how his running backs run lanes are. Etc.
@LeslieLongJr Should have picked up on some of it by now.
@dannyjohnson8122 ,Sorry that you don't understand that Tomlin spends no time on what his offensive coordinator is doing each game of the NFL season. Tomlin spends all his time on the defensive side of the ball every week of the season.
@@LeslieLongJr Not true. Watch Hard Knocks.
@LeslieLongJr I'm talking about deciding to punt when its 4th and inches or directing his Offensive Coordinator to be more aggressive on his calls. Everyone knows he comes from a defensive background but those are things a head coach can do.
Jalen hurts has said on multiple podcasts that his impression on draft night was that we were taking him. So much so, that when Philly did call him, he thought that it was the Pittsburgh area code. Also, we saw Baker for years in the division and we knew his downfall was due to injury (and being in Cleveland), how on earth do you not sign him instead of Mitch-6 Trubisky? Never going to be critical of the Lamar non-pick, that was Ben’s problem for being thin skinned about competition.
They knew Baker's flaws as much as anyone. When he's hot, he gets really hot. But he's also prone to mistakes. A younger version of Jameis Winston. Led the NFL in fumbles this season with 13.
@dalelolley4100 fair point Dale. Love the show and looking forward to listening to you guys all off season.
I like the mock and I agree with the beef on the D line.
Here's my mock that makes the most sense to win in 2025.
1) Tyleik Williams DT or Kenneth Mason DT.
2) Kaleb Johnson RB, CB, or WR
3) Interior O-lineman OG
4) RB or missing offensive player for development.
Don't forget that Troy returns next season and he is slated to be RT, Broderick is being moved to LT once Dan Moore walks. Zach should be better next season while we will see what Mason can be. Seumalo is the weak link but the O-line is now rebuilt.
I've seen people call this Steelers roster soft. I cannot argue against that any longer. Except Cam Heyward.
Mock drafting a defensive player first rd makes me think this team isn't gonna change much next year
Benjamin Morrison in the 1st would still be good our cbs suck and there’s still guys like royals in the 2nd who could be wr2
Just watched the Rams/Vikings. Something that stood out to me was they have tons of team speed on defense. I realize they only won 10 games but that speed on defense jumps of the screen and they are an offensive minded team.
Russ had a 121 passer rating with 2 TDs. Certainly he was NOT the problem.
@@kennyp4JC3 gotta be sarcasm
All Tomlin's and Rooney's fault no real WR2 or WR3 and noTE2 for Russ, Russ was supposed to perform miracles
Empty stats. One first down in the first quarter. No points in the first half. Headed to the locker room at halftime down 21-0. 3-and-outs all over the place. I think they passed on first down quite a bit. They put the game in Russ' hands. He fumbled it.
@@klove5765 miracles are for GOD, not QB's
More like guys dropped the ball, and there was no run game to speak of. No offense is going to be successful that way. Everything is 3rd & long. They finished the game with 29 rushing yards. That can't happen.
I enjoy mock drafts tbh, but fellas, read the room. It's the episode after an embarrassing playoff defeat (another one). We're here to vent and have a group therapy session. The mocks have to wait at least a week.
You enjoy that. I’ll enjoy the mock draft
my thoughts exactly!!!
I did 3 mock drafts before the game Saturday.
Id assume they do the mock drafts because it's something that is always on the schedule. Plus I'm sure they would rather hold on to as much content as possible because from here on out content will be scarce
Love the Star Wars references guys 34:35
Love the show. Go Steelers!
2 things: Wilson is more like Yoda (short &quirky), and 2, thanks for pushing to the draft on day one of the SNR postseason, I'm ready to forget about the 2024 season. Love the show.
Dale is an antidepressant in human form😅 He will look on the bright side of even the DARKEST of situations. You can give him the most horrendous situation, and he will somehow try to find those tiny, sometimes non-existent, bright spots. Cheers to you sir🫡 Matt is closer to a realist, but will go along to get along as much as he can.
Don't see much use in dwelling on negatives. You can learn from the negative stuff, but you can't dwell on them. You keep moving forward. Dwelling on the negative, I've found, is just depressing/frustrating. I'd rather look at how to solve the problem. That doesn't make me non-realistic. Don't know how that could be drawn from that. Just a different approach. I problem solve.
@dalelolley4100 I get it. And I appreciate that kind of mindset. Just to be clear, I wasn't saying that as an insult or in any kind of sarcastic way. It was just that every time things had been at their most bleak, you were always there pointing out any positives or even potential positives. I appreciate anyone with a positive mindset. I wish I could be that way. Unfortunately, I am more pessimistic than I would like, and that can be to my own detriment a lot of times. That was just a bit of a joke that hit me while watching the show😅 I was like, " damn, Dale is like antidepressants in human form. If you feel like everything is going wrong? Go talk to Dale, he will give you every possible positive thing he can find and maybe you will feel better.."😂 Love the show brother!! You and Matt do an amazing job. I wish I could do something in that space. Getting paid to talk Steelers football would be a dream come true... no matter how difficult the Steelers play may make it😅 Thanks brother🫡
@@xx1CRU That's what I'm here for. Been doing this a long time and always go back to the Bill Cowher-mantra. You can't get too high with the highs and too low with the lows. If ride that roller-coaster, it's an emotionally draining season, no matter how things turn out.
@dalelolley4100 Respect sir🫡 Now learn how to pronounce some of these players names correctly😂😂😂😂😂... I'm just joking, kinda😂
Will Howard in the 4th, he'd be a steal. He's got a good arm, size and CAN run.
Can't beat the better teams with the scared to turn it over run it offense of the last three years. Strike three, New batter(s)
Sad ending but for a steelers and ravens game we got pushed around more then i ever saw. btw the revens could of score when ever they wanted.
Look into jaxson dart for this draft, i like how he plays and he has a good release on him and if Steelers can get him in the qb room has qb2 i wouldn't be upset about it and i hope fields end up being qb1 for season 2025. Let me know what you feel about this.
I would 100% be down to take a shot on Milroe. I feel the same way. He has everything you need to be an elite QB in the league today. Only thing is, can he do it on the mental side. That is what these elite QB's can do. See the defense, recognize the potential weakness/soft spots, and make really quick decisions for where the ball needs to go. I know he isn't a guarantee, no QB is, but I think it would be worth it to take a shot with him. Even let him sit for a year and let Fields start next year🤷♂️
The Rams are blowing the Vikes away!!!!
They talk about the Steelers the Vikings haven't done anything since 1974 when they lost to the Steelers
Never hear the word parity this time of year 😂😂
*MOCK draft already... geeez😂
I'm all for mock drafts
@jameschestnut6463 the 2024 season is still on 😆
@@SteelersNationAustralianot for the Steelers
Christ with the mock drafts already. We all need a break.
What does the division of labor look like between Tomlin and Austin when it comes to the defense? It definitely seems like the scheme is not getting the most out of the players.
The focus on Henry to the cost of Jackson running was maddening. Brought too few to the line to pressure them. TJ clearly had his instructions which he followed. But you have to recognise that this provides an option for Jackson and adjust or adapt the line to deal with it. Would rather have seen one more in the middle to take on Henry and have our wides rushing Lamar Jackson.
It doesn't matter what stats you put out there, this game felt bad from the start. The Steelers just didn't give me any confidence at any time. Lotta work to do in the off season.
Your running back has to have speed .
The Steelers need pieces too. O line players that can block, receivers that can get open and if they keep Smith as OC two good tight ends. Top tier talent costs money, spend some
Man if we get Will Johnson and Kenneth Grant I'd be over the moon. More realistically it'll be CB Amos and DT TJ Sanders though. Great mock guys. I like the round 3 RB, the TE I'm not thrilled about, would prefer OT depth there instead, but who? I get it though.
We need to make sure this team is ready and sets them up until they get a Qb.
4th and inches? Punt it!!! We cant possibly get one inch with 6 foot players
Needs for the Steelers are quarterback, receiver, cornerback defensive line how many years the Steelers pass on a cornerback or pick the wrong one
TOMLIN AND CO need to go hangout with McVay and co lol and somehow steal there defensive coordinator
The stats that Steelers at 6.2 but no time of possessions makes it clear you cannot win throwing moon balls people love big plays but you have to be able to run when you need to and you have to be able to hit the short and midrange passes. Yes once in a while Russ will throw one but that has not been his game for years. Russ is not the answer.
first and foremost you need a good head coach and good coordinators that can devise a good game plan and have good knowledge of the game to understand what is the other team is doing to them so they can adjust. MT won't cut it.
I know everyone is ready to jump off the cliff, but what can we take from this season?
What is your opinion of the O line performance as a young unit?
What can we reasonably expect to see from the group next year having some experience to look back on?
I have high hopes for the offensive line moving forward. Still a very young group. Would have loved to have gotten McCormick some playoff experience, but an injury is an injury. Fautanu might have been their best lineman at camp last summer. They were very excited about him. And Frazier is a stud, as well.
Tomlin actually said that he proudly carries the One & Done baggage. WTH. No Zay Flowers even. If you allow 300 yards rushing in the Playoffs, you’re soft.
What about the running back from Iowa State.
With Queen and the IV's maybe the defense was sick?
Need change 😂
What is your buddy who's a 49ers fan crying about? Lol, they just came off a Superbowl appearance where Purdy went toe to toe with Mahomes, but the o-line didn't hold up in OT. People say we're spoiled jeeze.
We need a running back that can run like Le'Veon Bell. Patience up behind Zach Frazier and the vision to take a route either side up the guts. Sick of watching Harris get the ball and just take off wide of centre. Warren does the right thing by going up the centre.but he is not built like Harris.
What are your thoughts on Will Howard from Ohio State?
There's some skill there, but a little inconsistent. More of a pocket passer than I'd like for today's game, but he's not non-athletic - though tripping over his own feet with a sure touchdown in front of him last week didn't exactly show that.
Take a swing for archie next season
We need to draft Trayvion Henderson from Ohio State 😎
Why in nickel defense so much, and who’s calling for that Austin, Tomlin ?? And why is Sutton on the field ? I hate to say this but…Ownership is soft !! No accountability, Mr.Rooney said last years debacle that “winning a playoff game was priority” I’m sure I was paraphrasing, but terrible game-plan , and they didn’t adjust ?? WTF…I have lost confidence in the coaching staff and ownership, and I have been a fan since 1969 😩 . It’s the same old thing, very predictable play calling from both sides of the ball !! I hate it !!
Austin makes the game-day play calls based on the game plan they draw up during the week, in which everyone plays a part. They adjusted, but in many cases, it was just the Ravens making plays. Lamar played outstanding.
@ thanks Dale, sorry for the hateful comments, but it’s very frustrating to watch
How come they haven't released Pruitt Jefferson Patterson Heyward by now
Yur telling me we can't find a nose tackle and move benton over ?
Imma laugh when Pickens leaves after next year and we dont have any wrs because pittsburgh keeps getting defensive players in the draft
If you can sign Justin Feilds two years, draft someone like Kevin Jennings (SMU) in the six or seventh round, You might not be able to develop him in a year... but you know you have a couple of QB's. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't but you have a couple of drafts since and better capital with players like Hayward and Watt retiring. That's ok with a coach like Tomlin who gets those 9 games with not the best QB's.
Jennings was pretty talented ... His team collapsed there at the end but your not looking for Tom Brady, Just a Dan Marino.
300 completions out of 500 attempts 5000 yards, 200 carries for about 500 yards basically over 2 years thats not snot
The Ravens blew their doors off a couple weeks earlier. What’s the excuse for that one?
Defensive thinking is stupid at this point we tried and failed get emika eukba idk the wr from Ohio state first rd
Looked like most of the defense had the flu..😂
The Steelers lost by letting Henry and Jackson run the ball up their ass... the passing Game was aweful out there. Henry was close to a record. It was clear you had to hold both of them to under 100 combined. They were pretty close to 250 rushing yards combined
-Anybody still whining and crying about the Steelers being 9-point dogs?
-This franchise has been outscored 63-0 in the 1st quarter its last five playoff games. Is that the players? They’ve been different, right? Different coordinators, right? Same head coach? Yes.
-This franchise is soft. It just played out in front of the entire country. They’re soft. Is that the culture instilled by this head coach?
-Harbaugh narrative…dead. He’s better than Tomlin. His team wins. His team beat up Tomlin’s. His team said we aren’t going to throw the ball. You know it, we know it, and we like it. Lamar narrative…dead. He wins playoff games. He beats the Steelers. Tomlin narrative…more alive than ever.
-The Steelets got bullied. Not debatable. Is that the type of team we should want moving forward? Is that a well-coached team?
-299 to 29.
-Cleveland and Cincinnati have more recent playoff wins than the Steelers.
-Russell Wilson did not have a winning record with the Steelers. 6-6.
-20 consecutive games without scoring a TD on opening drive. Same head coach-different coordinators.
-His last 127 snaps..0 tackles, 0 sacks, 0 pressures. Thats TJ Watt’s line.
-The Ravens ran the ball 50 times. 50! And TJ Watt had ZERO stats. No tackles, no assists, nada. Was it this show glowing about his “run defense?” Roger Rosengarten is his daddy.
-Is Tyler Linderbaum still too small? He beat up the Steelers. Beat.them.up.
-Kendrick Green stinks. He’s another in a very long list of Colbert busts. Kendrink Green has more playoff wins than TJ Watt and Minkah Fitzpatrick combined.
-No more talk about how good the Steelers are in primetime or stand alone games. 2-7 in 2024 in front of the national audience. And that doesn't count how they did it all in front of Hard Knocks.
-The Steelers brand is trash. Every national show yesterday killed them. Bill Cowher killed them. Every single radio and tv show today killed them. That is most disheartening.
-Glad we traded a fifth-round pick for Mike Williams and his 10 catches. Good job!
-“We don’t live in our fears.” Unless its 4th down and an inch and you’re behind. Then you don’t go for it and throw in the towel. Weak. Soft.
-“Nobody runs on this defense when Cam Heyward is on the field.” What show did I hear that on?
-Ravens players laughing out loud on front of reporters about how thinly disguised the defense was. Mike Tomlin’s defense.
There are those who expected this. Hope for the best, prepare for the inevitable.
Ben called out Tomlin's shortcomings in 2016 after the Dallas game. No discipline and a lack of accountability was the culture. Also known as a players coach, aka a cheerleader. Ben calling out the coach and players got them to win out and make the AFCC game, the last year they won a playoff game.
Are our draft picks busts, or is it coaching. Our DB draft picks were good until LeBeau, the HOF CB, was forced out, then they were Burns, Davis Edmunds'esque.
Tomlin is a good coach, not a great coach, and his deficiencies only allow us to win in the regular season. Just like Marty Schottenheimer.
Art Rooney II mandated the return to smashmouth. Tomlin obliged. Tomlin runs the defense....and it looks the same since LeBeau was forced out.
Art Rooney II political ideology only cares about one goal. Mike Tomlin will surpass Chuck Noll in 2026 for 9th most wins in NFL history. Actually, Tomlin will pass Marty Schottenheimer at #8. It is important to AR2, if it wasn't, Tomlin would have been asked to retire. Yet he received a contract extension until...
Analyst Kirk Herbstreit during the game said, "Where the hell is the fight, this is the Pittsburgh Steelers, they're just going through the motions."
The Steelers finished 15th in overall DVOA (19th in offense, 8th in defense, and 2nd in special teams). In terms of weighted DVOA, they were the 2nd worst team that was in the playoffs (Houston was last). Baltimore finished the season as the 7th best DVOA in history. It sucks that we lost, but the Steelers just aren't in the top tier of teams. You can't bank on a defense winning games for you when your offense can't score points.
I don't understand how everyone is pissed off at a team that is clearly not a finished product. This is about where I expected them to be at the start of the season. Russ just happened to drive hope up until the final 4 weeks and the playoffs.
They improved the oline, but it was made up of 2 rookies, a 2nd year tackle who was backsliding until near the end of the season, a 4th year tackle no fan seems to want (and who probably cost himself some money with his play at the end of the season), and even Seumalo was getting pushed around. And Pickens as your only true receiver was ridiculous, as was his attitude at times. They better find a replacement for him next year since he doesn't seem to want to be here, too bad it's not a stronger receiver class, because I would say sign a strong free agent wr and draft one high just in case he's an issue again.
And the defense continues to show it still needs players, DL, CB, which need to be drafted high if free agents that fit our needs can't be found, but DL needs to get younger regardless. Though with the players they have, they definitely underperformed and the playoff scheme was laughable and frustrating to watch.
Hire a new DC and get Tomlin's hands off it and force him into more of a CEO position.
Curious to see what will actually occur.
And had to laugh at the accidental Fountainhead reference with the two college qbs Howard and Rourke.
Thanks guys! Was waiting to hear your perspective.
If we all remebr lamars mom cussed him out for not running more so he wanted to make his mommy happy I'm sure she was jumping for joy
We tried to get wr this year and they all laughed in our faces we ended up with mike williams and yu guys think we can get one next year haha no one wants to come here the wr that we have dont wanna be here 😂😂😂
We're doing this already? Lol
Hey
If the Steelers drafted Lamar, Tomlin and the staff he hires would have Lamar already out of the league.
Running back second round
Matt, Dale, great show as always!...the defensive game plan was...terrible...and given that Tomlin is the de-facto DC...where is the accountability?...the Tomlin Millionaires in defense are useless if not use properly...so, in order to break the cycle of perpetual mediocrity, if Tomlin is not going away, why not try to relocate resources?... trade Watt, get picks, bring free agents on offense an a 21st century OC...or continue the insanity and run it back...this is so frustrating...
It is a misnomer to say Tomlin is the "defacto" defensive coordinator. He is in on discussions on the game plan -- as every head coach is -- but Austin makes the game day calls.
All around too sum up this season, I hv too say I'm pleased. if the turnout had been two or three playoff games deep it would hv been an success beyond matching the talent we HV. Rookies showcasings shouldn't go unnoticed. Z.f. & m.mc. p.wil b.bisp. Four draft picks outta 7 WITH roman n TroyF expectational guys factor and then the new addition on Mike Williams B++. Vaguely satisfied with our new Off coordinator posting 10 wins columns Highest Rated Off Ranks and DID IT WITH TWO DAMN GOOD QBS FOR a first time Shot 🥃. I'll still say Our wrs has to own possession s way More firepower 2 wr; should own 8/12 recs a game and our t.e.s get 10 between them a GAME. THATS JUST TO KEEP UP WITH THE 15 team's.... Harris please resign Let him chase our History in Backs he that 1 we gotta get Right mixed w Warren. Ca3 way to be there Respectfully. and V. Jefferson. Special teams Program A+. Coaching Its a B- On some real talk we left games on the field on both sides of the Ball. Only bc our coaches trust players to be electric and find their roles to create a format and formulas to play an win with gains make mistakes but not costly ones bc we have to stay connected and composed Routinely.this season should show we NOT gone have CALLS ON defenders holding our WRS and get NO P.INF CALLED. And we on defense have to learn more man to man and press man coverages our DBS play great but need to take containment of wide outs especially inside routes and middle intermediate levels We lost way bc we our players hv to b more better QBS SACKS N PRESSURE and that's our middle intermediate levels some deep Play. Allow our QBs2 stand in the pocket and make splays Defense C.
Check it out yu guys drafted us a shitty ass offense good job
Lacy didn’t run anyone over
Art Rooney is a lazy owner and Tomlin’s an incompetent coach.. Great combo 💩
Lets get some more Defensive players like yu guys want so our offense sucks again next year good thinking sounds like the tomlin way. Yu guys thinking like that makes yu part of the problem
Minkah is done. He lost more than a step.
Start Justin fields next season we need young talent on the steelers
Fellas i love the show listen to all the fantasy advice and steelers inside. I hate to be the one to tell yu but no free agent wr is gonna sign here. Why would they. Defense doesn't win championships anymore. We already have a 140 million dollar Defense that offenses are steam rolling. Get offensive players in the draft cause free agency players aren't gonna wanna play for our shiity ass offense
Tomlin please resign 🙏🏼
Jaxson Dart, QB Old Miss
Why stop looking at bunch for talent
Go to your HBCUsthe talent is over looked.
Antonio pierce for DC, trade highsmith and some capital for Crosby, draft wr cb dt
Mediocre Mike strikes again. Nothing (of substance) is going to change.....there will be a fall-guy or 2 or 3 (coordinators), but the main problem will persist to another 9 or 10 win season and another one-and-done in the playoffs next year....what an incredible waste of many talented players over the years...we fans, and the city of Pittsburgh deserve better...smh...
Look to your HB C U for talent . They are there still.
Eagles won their first Super Bowl ever with a backup. Russ should be able to take this team to the next level. The defense is washed up and hasn’t aged well 3rd year guys are acting like rookies out there. Any more all pros that we sign from Baltimore are not going to fix our coaching and the lousy scheme
We all understand that you get paid by Pittsburgh Steelers play hey people read the room every Steelers fan demands change FYI 95% Steelers fans want Mike Tomlin gone I will not be watching your episode
Does that also mean you won't be commenting here anymore? I'll miss that. We were not kind to the team on today's show at all. Don't know what you wanted.