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"Optional" = Has to be disabled in multiple obscure places hidden throughout the OS. And it keeps getting turned on again every update.
Just like the totally optional microsoft account...
It shows when creating a user on those pcs with a toggle, plus you can disable it at any time in the task bar
And it randomly starts indexing while playing games and your whole machine just dies.
@@notplancha131 the button is there, it doesn't mean it works as expected
And will be silently switched from opt-in to opt-out at some time.
Backdoor? This is a front door.
So fucking true
No. It's a window! 😂
We wont have to worry about what Backdoor Wang is doing on the database when Frontdoor Willie is crashing in to recall it all.
@@ihateorangecat front window
a door implies you can close it. This is your moms...
"That's a slippery slope fallacy"
My guy, that slope is a minimum of 60 degrees and absolutely covered in dish soap.
Ha
Everyone says slippery slope is a fallacy, in the past 10 years seems more like a reality.
And we were already pushed down the slope 10 years ago.
yea it is actually not accurate to call it a slippery slope fallacy in this case, slippery slope is only a fallacy when one suggests a chain reaction based on the initial action based on little to no evidence, however microsoft’s actions in the past decade has been evident enough for this to not be a fallacy but a reality
If somebody is still calling the slippery slope a 'fallacy' in 2024, I've gotta assume they're a subversive using the effect as a weapon, or they have the IQ of furniture.
Microsoft in a few months: "Hey guys, all these Recall captures are weighting a little on your PC, why don't you just put them on the cloud?"
"It's completely optional, though"
Don’t you want to be able to do recall searches across devices bro? Just throw it in Onedrive and bam, maximum efficiency.
@@mcechss "But we're doing it by default, so non-tech savvy people don't get confused"
@@normalmighty "and we also hid the setting to disable it 17 menus deep in a crappy windows xp ui that requires you turn on permissions in a separate place 20 menus deep. Godspeed!"
"Hey, good news: Those recall captures that took up so much space? Yeah, we managed to compress that down a lot, so they're barely noticeable anymore. It's as if they aren't even on your device anymore! Isn't that great?"
I've never been more motivated to go full Linux
My main problem with it is with the corporate environment, it basically allows your company to spy on you with ease. Granted you shouldn't be using your company PC for personal things but most lay people do, like reading their personal emails. Or how about retail stores or service companies that takes info from you, most of these companies use Windows as their OS.
So? How is that stopping you to switch full Linux?
Did a year ago and have been incredibly happy with the change. Seeing this now just lets me know I made the right decision. There are some compromises I had to make, but now that I am used to Linux and some of the things that it offers, making a move to Windows would also be full of compromises. I'm happy to be on Linux.
@@haroldcruz8550 containerize your corporate stuff into a virtual machine, problem solved
@@PixelThorn It's a big change for alot of people to be fair, and if the software they need isn't available then yeah... it's great if it fits your needs.
Spying on Linux -> it's a bug.
Spying on Windows -> it's a feature.
Spying on Linux -> it's Ubuntu
kde plasma is full of telemetry.
@@ChrisWijtmans Most distro come with Firefox and Firefox is now the official most spying browswer with their new search telemetry collecting.
@@ChrisWijtmans look up what it actually sends to kde's team, all the data is anonymous and contains only error logs
You are the feature
A few takeaways.
1) There are plenty of companies that _say_ that everything is on-device, but actually send everything to the cloud.
2) Even if it is "on-device only" at release, they can easily push an update that changes it to 100% cloud based.
3) You can bet hackers will find a way to grab the snapshots and mine it for data to their heart's content.
4) What's the likelihood that the NSA or similar won't have a back door eventually.
5) You can bet that if they think they can get away with it then the tracking will be enabled by default and you will have to manually opt out of every app (which 90% of users won't bother with)
6) This remembers _everything_ so it conceivably "might just happen to" remember passwords.
7) The potential for industrial espionage is also lovely
Honestly, these days every time Microsoft releases some new AI / data-harvesting / advertising feature for windows it makes me seriously consider moving to Linux. Most of what I do on the computer is in the browser anyway (or could be) so why the hell not?
All valid points. Now, switch to Linux. It's great.
@@HiddenHeathen Unfortunately linux isn't even where windows was 20 years ago as far as the desktop is concerned.
If people want to make "the year of the linux desktop" happen, they seriously need to put the work into usability.
@@HiddenHeathenyou're insane if you think that Linux desktop is ,"great". it's good for servers only
@@isodoubIetwhat exactly is it lacking in comparison to windows? Most problems I encountered was with software that only runs on windows/mac without a viable linux alternative which is imo the biggest reason not to switch. In my case I just use VMs but for the average user that's quite inconvenient and in most cases a dealbreaker. But apart from that I'm curious what reasons others have
"why the hell not?" you tell me, blud, what's holding you back? I left for penguin land ages ago, long before this AI bullshit
Windows: search doesnt work for years
Also windows: look you guys, you can trust us to make everything searchable
Microsoft can definitely search. It's just you are the subject, not the use of that search ;-)
I use linux, btw
What about the Indexing service? Does it still eat CPU time?
When will the public ever realize that Windows users are not Microsoft's customers, you are the exploited resource and your data is their product, Microsoft's real customers are the companies and government agencies that will use your data.
Their search works. For them, not for you. Like your PC running windows. It does what MS wants, not what you want.
Windows is awesome.
I've used Linux desktop for about 4 years, used Mac for a few weeks, if I could afford it I would use Mac all day.
The reality is that if you cannot afford the Apple ecosystem then Windows is your ONLY alternative, Linux desktop is an absolute joke in an corporate/professional environment.
$hit on Windows just works, sound, video, industry standard software, beautiful UI - I honestly never understood the beef with MS and Windows, and the thing about privacy, you are very confused if you think MS is the only company involved, and its the easiest thing to switch off, WTF.
It is like Microsoft wants to use OUR computer power to record OUR data to feed it into new version of ChatGPT
you wouldnt have that problem with a -V8- arch linux install
😮
its actually a bit more evil and creepy than just this
Don't worry guysssss, it's totally 100% local on your machine! They totally won't have access to that data!! /s
don't count on that
@@unkown34x33 sarcasm
in 10 years when they have a data breech (which will be an inside job) we will all find out how untrue this all is.
Every time I see some idiot crying about MS "spying" they're an iPhone or Android user who have no problems with Apple and Google recording every word they say, face scanning every photo they take, and scanning every document on their phone to upload to iCloud and GoogleDrive.
Hypocritical idiots pretending to care about privacy, when in reality they're just manchildren fanboys hating on their chosen enemy corporation while taking it up the ass from their favored corporation. 1984 already happened 10 years ago on iOS and android, and these fanboys were completely silent for that entire time, but as soon as MS does it, they flip out. Clown world.
@@adoolaTuraykpretty sure they were kidding too
“Hey copilot I forgot that username and password I use to login to this sensitive server can you recall my login info” - legitimate user probably
That is what they want. So much precious (private) data. The number of black market dumps is about to be insane!
windows 10 already came with a keylogger so they already have it. windows 11 will be able to contextualize it better.
@@complexity5545 now that's just creating paranoia in people for no reason. We don't know if this thing is going to be capable of saving passwords inputs even if it can capture the state it was in, nor if the states themselves are going to be encrypted in some way to avoid malicious apps from abusing the data. There's plenty of things Microsoft can do in order to make this more secure and they will since they definitely do not want private data being collected by malicious actors
@@ChrisWijtmans i did not know that
Like for real anyone can get all your information your cheating you social media handles , 😅 you ponytail Lol 😂😆 haha did watch ⌚ anything boom search the date and time and content Lol 😂😆 it's going down 👇👎
Coming to a future near you:
You: "Recall, give me that series I was watching on Netflix yesterday."
Recall: "I can't do that, Dave. It's DRM."
The more Windows users that move the Linux the more developer support Linux will get and the better Linux will become...
… and the more corporate and controlled Linux will become, and the more chance of kernel level backdoors having to be included by law 😉
Sadly, Linux Foundation doesn't care about Linux Desktop.
@@jernaugurgeh451 open source makes any sort of kernel level backdoor ineffective. No one owns linux
Linux already had FAR better developer support, corporate just forces windows on us
Too many cooks spoil the broth. Look at Wayland.
"Fully local, local only" yeah just like your user account eh? Oh wait
Every time I see some idiot crying about MS "spying" they're an iPhone or Android user who have no problems with Apple and Google recording every word they say, face scanning every photo they take, and scanning every document on their phone to upload to iCloud and GoogleDrive.
Hypocritical idiots pretending to care about privacy, when in reality they're just manchildren fanboys hating on their chosen enemy corporation while taking it up the ass from their favored corporation. 1984 already happened 10 years ago on iOS and android, and these fanboys were completely silent for that entire time, but as soon as MS does it, they flip out. Clown world.
Prime, this is not a drill: A modern and friendly "Linux Ubuntu for Windows Users Tutorial" video series is in need. We need you to save the Windows plebs from this abomination and make them understand Linux is not hard nowadays.
Ubuntu is just a few steps away from Windows, don't expect billion dollar corporations to act for your best interest.
linux mint*
@@muzspamz Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu… they offer a Debian-based version though, *just in case*, and many are hoping that will become the default.
pop os
Yeah, Mint is probably better
That is just like that one Black Mirror episode where, at an interview, they ask the dude to show them what he has done in the past week.
Wait for the Recall dumps to be uploaded to the internet for all to see. What a train wreck!
G@D will use it on judgement day.
Sam: Can we record your voice to use it for the AI
Scarlet: No that's creepy
Sam: Thanks, you've said enough
Please repeat, " Eh, Ee, I , oh, you, duh, dad, kite, zebra, don quixote marmalade yogi fruit fap party pink"....
@@complexity5545 nuh uh
To the people who say that it's fine because it never leaves the device.
1. Are you sure the data never leaves the device? Have you looked at the code?
2. Are you sure it will stay like that forever?
3. In the past hackers, the NSA, etc, would have to make their own stuff to monitor you if they wanted. Now they can just grab the data that is already there. Now funny game's shared over Discord won't just grab your saved logins from your browser, it will also grab any password, key, etc, that was shown on screen.
The data doesn't need to leave your device, they can simply ask the AI on your device questions about your data once it has been digested.
An open source copy would be quite nice
no
Microsoft: We store screenshots of your screen, and you can search them with semantic search.
Hackers: ❤ Microsoft
@@content_ai_ There's going to be so many exploits and new CVEs coming up. That feature/process is going to get fuzzed like a sheep on hair cut day.
ReactOS but it's closer to windows xp
Jia Tan and the Signal people would also like that
This is why I started switching to Linux, using programs like Lutris I can get basically 100% of my game library running on it. Even Windows Only games like GTA V run great on Linux now. Community support is pretty good too.
Currently using Linux Mint.
Steam with build-in Proton is a blessing.
@hanswoast7 It really is, Proton and just Valve in general has made gaming on linux an even better gaming experience than you would even get on Mac. I would have never thought that just even 2 years ago.
dont run games on your work machine. never know what spyware it contains.
@@ChrisWijtmanswe have mandatory spyware on our work machines. I don't even log into my email. It's a work machine. I can use the phone if needed.
Yep, the only things not working ime are games that require kernel level / ring-0 anticheat, which needs to die anyways.
Off topic a bit, but these huge game studios need to find other ways to prevent/catch hackers, like smarter analysis of gameplay or a functional reporting/moderation system, instead of just backdooring all our machines, still missing cheaters somehow, and then using a shitty "AI" to ban people for typing a single curse word 🤦♂. I can't afford a 2nd PC just to play Apex or Valorant, so I just don't anymore.
Edit: Oh, and Roblox. That doesn't work on Linux either. I play that with my nephews sometimes but at least it isn't ring-0 bullshit, so I can just dualboot or run a VM for it.
Imagine someone carrying a camera following you around irl recording everything you do. And they promise the video never leaves the camera.
This is pretty much that.
Can't: you'd MOST CERTAINLY get shot doing that here.
holy fuck the entire rant about "slippery slope fallacy" was so on point I fucking hate people bringing up that shit
The slippery slope fallacy is a fallacy because the argument "X will happen" does not defeat the statement that "if X does not happen, Y is good." It has no relation to the statement. If on the other hand, someone argues
- X will not happen
- X will not happen → we should do Y
∴ we should do Y,
then "X will happen" is a valid counterargument to doing Y because it attacks a premise which could prove we should do Y.
On further thought, my first reply may not have been entirely correct. The SSF might deacribe another kind of counterargument, which asserts "X will happen" without arguing why X will (where the person making the original argument got to "X won't happen" properly). If so, then a good way to rephrase the slippery slope fallacy might be to say "if you're arguing that there is a slippery slope, you must prove it exists. You cannot assume it."
@@delta3244 You sir, just reeled me back in, and reminded me, that this is a nerd channel. LoL
I actually read your comment twice, just to follow the logic.
@@delta3244Bertrand Russell enters the chat.
Idk, I get his point, but even then, it's a real thing. Sometimes people will argue too much about "what if X happens", when in reality the chances of X happening are close to 0. I do agree however this isn't a good example
The problem with the claim "it stays local to your pc" is that it doesn't take into account OTHER programs that will mine this data and transmit it seperate to Recall.
Its basically an operating system cookie. So many people are going to get screwed.
I wonder if they're gonna encrypt it in some shape to avoid this kind of thing
@@javierflores09 Knowing what I know about Microsoft and their 1st generation databases, is that encryption will only be applied to the socket connecting to Microsoft. The data will probably be some naked container file/directory XML thingy with embedded jpg pictures, so they can sell the data easier/quicker to businesses. The government will be able to scrape it easier that way.
What's awful is how AI is making so many people feel they don't need to try creating a good tool, and instead have AI fuzzy search everything for them.
People don't want to use their brains.
Buddy you are thinking about this all wrong. Your skills are gonna become valuable again. You know like a bunch of gen A doesn't know how to use computers because all they have used is phones and tablets.
I do like anime catgirls.
Unfortunately, Microsoft is already aware because of my chatGPT history
Uhm.... what business does your interest have in the cgpt input box...?
@@XDarkGreyX I want you to act as an Uwuntu Linux terminal as if the entire os was written by a cute furry anime catgirl.I will type commands and you will reply, in a unique code block, with what the linux terminal should show. But there is a twist: you will translate each linux output into uwu, in a cute catgirl UwU voice. You should replace the letter "r" and "l" with "w" (Example: "pwd" -> "Nyaaa~ Cuwwent diwectowy :3: /home/uwu")
My first command is pwd
what the hell
13:04 It's not a fallacy if the slope really is slippery
There is article from MS saying the same as you 😂😂😂
You can't make this up 😂
October 13, 2023 - Understanding (and avoiding) slippery slope fallacies
@@tablettablete186wtf lmao, I found the article and have no words
@@TheDjarto Crazy right? From MS itself 😆🤣🤣🤣
Worst part is, Windows users are still gullible to defend their beloved OS.
ill admit i like windows cuz its alot more convenient compared to something like linux but at the same time im kinda considering switching cuz of all the privacy stuff going on
i have w10 right now and im never installing w11 but i mean its still spyware soo-
@@cozz124 I just have what I don't want/need turned off and/or removed on W11, with like, three OS mods installed; have it the way I want it and it looks and functions nicely.
People tend to say every version of Windows ever is spyware (which as a developer, telemetry is not automatically bad), so if somebody can actually provide to me in depth researched data of such, I'd like to see which components and where could possibly be streaming data out.
@@AgrimarYT i have most of my privacy settings set to pretty strict on windows, but what bothers me really is just the fact theres so much garage i cant uninstall. i dont have an ssd so, even uninstalling everything that i dont need that i actually *can* uninstall, you can imagine how much it weighs down my drive :c
@@cozz124 There's some third-party utilities and even a couple of custom ISOs that strip down Windows, though when I reinstalled to resolve some issues, I decided with uninstalling over installing a custom cleaned out ISO; I went with "AtlasOS" via the AME Wizard for my current install, which I had also modified for my own needs as I do actually use things like Microsoft accounts and the Microsoft Store, the scripts are open source.
It takes a screenshot every 2 minutes, so all you need is a script which flashes up a picture of a cat girl on the same schedule, and the fbi will never know you've been researching novel uses for fertilizer.
"Enhancing the user experience" (Apple when caught uploading user data) weird how those deleted photos reappeared after an update... Cloud is forever.
Fancy naming it Recall! They do know what happened at Recall in "Totall Recall" don't they? Do you want your PC sleazy or demure?
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Microsoft: Recall on your computer
User: I Recall Linux as an option.
One would wonder why people mostly stick to Win 10 instead of Win 11... 69% vs 26.7% market share and dropping.
Corporate
Microsoft ushering in the age of the linux desktop. I already switched my work laptop but I’ll switch my pc too when this rolls out.
Microsoft loves Linux 💕
Can't wait for my computer to start insisting that I've always loved Vista.
Win10 end of life is October 2025. Win11 is atrocious. 2026 is finally the year of the linux desktop computer :)
Version 2 is cloud-based and it's called Total Recall ™
The slippery slope is not a fallacy: its a prediction.
i was on the fence, not doing linux cos of the time sink. well i gess now is the time
They want them crypto keys boys
This is genuinely hilarious. Well done. omg even your chat users are hilarious. I'm truly amazed. I usually hate setups like these with the face on screen and chatroll and commentary, but this is excellent work, sir.
bro if windows 12 has a subscription im fully switching to linux. I'm already thinking about it now. just gotta figure out the best flavor
Well, this is awkward but I actually wrote something like this ten years ago. It just simply wrote the title of the current active window into a file. Then, at the end of each month, when I needed to have the bill-able hours, an automated tool recognized work on each project and produced a timesheet.
It wasn't this fancy but it was pretty useful. I could also see how much time I spent procrastinating, so that's the anime cat girls part. But ultimately I did not pursue to improve or publish my tool, because it seemed like a double edged sword. So here we are.
i never thought id quit gaming and using windows in the same year lol
I've been putting off going back to Linux for years due to gaming but this is definitely pushing me over the edge
Gaming is really quite doable on Linux these days! Proton is built into steam, so most things "just work"™and for popular games that don't officially support running through Steam's tooling, there're fairly easy setups to get them running even when they're officially "Windows Only" (GTA, for example). Only stuff that doesn't work and can't just be run in a VM (afaik) is ring-0 kernel level anticheat bullshit like Apex and Valorant. So I just don't play those anymore even though I've got windows 10 installed rn, because that anticheat needs to die lol. Not backdooring my PC for that shit and can't afford to buy a 2nd one just for it cuz I'm not an Esports pro 😅. Still plenty of cheaters in those games too, so wtf is the point? I guess it's cheaper than actual moderation.
Over the Microsoft Edge.
I work in infosec. I know several colleagues have that Mac one installed on their machines. 🙃
_why?_
@@delta3244 I cannot comprehend it either. They say it's easier than taking notes but??? I have adhd and I've never been that desperate for notes.
actually this idea has been implemented but more basic form. In windows 10 it is called windows activity history. microsoft have been testing and improving this feature.
Imagine how useful this is for social engineering. A bunch of data on everything you do on your PC. Your voice, your speech patterns, a lot of private info, etc. If it's fully local it means that once your PC is compromised, you're essentially fucked. And until now disk encryption wasn't enabled by default (will be soon) meaning you might be able to fuck with people just because a drive wasn't properly wiped.
Latency isn't something that can be solved any time soon, it will get better, but it still is a huge problem and will continue to be for some time. It's not only a problem of reaction times, but also of _consistent_ reaction times.
Latency varying between 30-100ms absolutely kills gaming. Your favourite game has a 250ms i-frames window during dodge rolling? Well suck it, you only get between 150-220ms now.
just use Linux
In marketing it's not called "slippery slope fallacy", it's called the "Foot in the door effect". In social engineering we speak of "boiling the frog". The greatest manipulation ever probably was convincing enough people that "slippery slope fallacy" is actually a thing.
The greatest manipulation was actually convincing people that they're not propagandised and believe they're "free thinkers"
i do wanna say, the snapdragon chips are pretty cool and hopefully there are some distros able to support it out of box or one made for it already.
just a competition to apple silicon is something to be excited for.
I've often been told to stay away from Windows, especially during thunderstorms. Fortunately, I mostly use Linux.
My main takeaway is that NPUs are going to be a thing now. Not sure what they're going to do about the ram situation loading models tho. Like are these things going to have like 90gb of ram?
Me: "what did I watch yesterday?"
Recall: "a video about how excited Prime is for Recall"
this is an actual nightmare
I talked to a Doctor about this feature and was totally horrified, massive danger for his patients, this is a storm of lawsuits on the making.
Microsoft: "I'm respecting your privacy by knocking, but asserting my authority as your parent by coming in anyway"
Explorer is literally the name of the binary that displays the desktop and start menu bro. It was before Internet Explorer.
This level of corporate intrusion should be ILLEGAL,
Some company: “Can we use your -̶d̶a̶t̶a̶- voice?”
Someone: “NO!”
Some company:”😂”
wintoddlers are still going to continue using windows
About the processing, older devices used to be so slow and we didn't bothered so much, a cloud system (wich ms have one) is likely to get popular, especially when they can decrease the price of the device
If you're playing on a decent monitor and peripherals you can easily get around 150ms reaction times from GPU->monitor->ur face->mouse click registered. Saying 50ms doesn't matter is crazy.
With the crazy disk space utilization for this data, even if it might *really* be on-device at the start, it's only a matter of time before it gets uploaded into one drive or whatever.
It'll definitely won't stay 100% on device for a long time, that's for sure.
bro i just came across your channel and your vibe is funny asf , subbed fr
reminds me of like dr disrespect ahha goated
“The cloud is somebody’s else computer” SPOT ON!
Reading The Verge unironically is like having your drug dealer as a therapist
Not everywhere in 5 years, but definitely will start spreading within 5 years.
Sam Altman doing the "Her" is literally the Torment Nexus thing.
Even if Recall does not transmit any data, it still has the ability to Recall a Trojan that can send your data. Therefore, the real data transfer is not Recall, but its Trojan
I wonder if a hacker will figure out how to store a malicious payload in Recall 🤔. Essentially they would make Recall remember the malware, so each time you use Recall to look for a specific thing, you get reinfected.
Probably not something anyone has to worry about, I really don't think it will happen, it would just be a bit funny if Recall also remembers malware (except for those who got infected).
I have everything I have ever done recallable, it's called "memory"
Sir, have you heard about forgetting and misremembering, yet? Our memory system has built-in privacy features :D
I don't. Still fuck this shit, I'd rather be forgetful as I am now.
6:47 Primeagen loses his mind XD
I think they might end up doing a recall on all these laptops.
It feels like nobody has been paying attention to what Microsoft has been doing with Windows since 10 came out. They are incrementally moving to turning it into a subscription service. They KNOW everyone is going to hate it. They KNOW people will freak out. That's why they're doing things tiny bit by tiny bit. Recall would be GREAT if it was done entirely locally. And it would work 100x better too. But you know they can't lock that up from you unless its up on Azure. This kind of thing, btw, IS inevitable and is the future. Albeit, locally. But the idea that you can't ask your computer about something you saw 5 years ago, or even have it remind you when you say something like "didn't I see something like this before?" is going to seem weird. Soon. I have always hated the idea that if I looked at a web page, and then that page is gone a few months later, my browser doesn't know about it, can't bring it back up, nothing. It's not like storage isn't cheap as a mofo, and the algorithms are there to index it.... but the fundamental paradigm of viewing a page being ephemeral has never been the best of all worlds.
So they named their AI spyware after their terrible product. The funny thing is Windows XP had alexa spyware and amazon called their spyware device alexa. Coincidence? They really seem adament to keep their spyware naming conventions.
Switched to Linux Mint last year after 3 decades of MS, saves me tons of time not debloating, rebooting and endless KB articles. And money!
Using Linux is being free and just doing my job without hassle.
"Heheeeey we know most laptops can't handle windows 11 just like that. Let's just dedicate a portion of the hardware to literally screen record everything and kinda, make your computer lag. I mean look, it's for your best 😊"
Fun fact: At version 4, IE WAS the best browser. The alternative was Netscape 4, which was incredibly unstable at the time (if you used CSS, and resized the browser window it would - at best, scramble the content, and at worst, just crash). NS4 also preferred its own proprietary tags like instead of Using would avoid the crashes. IE4 would actually render CSS correctly at the time. Since then though...
50ms - 100ms lag in games is a lot. Anyone can notice this in games. I play online 5v5 shooting games, and my average ping is around 15ms. If it increases to 75ms-125ms, it is very noticible and isn't fair to other players because it would give me a ping advantage.
The name "Explorer" is a name Microsoft uses for several apps such as "File Explorer" not just "Internet Explorer".
I turned my old Surface Pro 4 into a "thin" device, had a VM with a GPU for more oomph and just streamed it to the Surface to work away from home.
It worked quite nicely when I had a connection, but it was my _own_ server behind Wireguard.
I'm actually surprised that this hasn't hit shelves yet, it's so obviously the (dystopian) future and the tech for it has existed for at least a decade at this point. I expected them to show up on shelves _before_ Nvidia streaming/GamePass/Stadia were a thing.
Ok, so I was in IT for a long time. I can’t even say I think recall will make it easier to go through someone’s use history.
Between event viewer and basic data recovery, it’s really easy to pull up old stuff.
"You can recall records from your work laptop to your home PC in seconds with our Recall 2.0. Free up to 15GB of storage. It is *optional* and can be *opted* out anytime"
its hilarious to me that by now there are something along the lines of 400000000 variables that paint a clear picture of what is going on, but because there is no clear cut sherlock holmes inference we're still having an argument on isolated deduction inferences
On Windows, press "Start + Tab" and scroll down.
oh, thats my history from several months back
:thousandyardstare:
It's not a slippery slope fallacy when we can look at the tech industry's track record, and see that it always, every time, without fail, slips.
Not only is it creepy, but along with all the companies and organizations having access, it will inevitably be used by hackers...
As I see, the main problem is not that everything you do gets logged and stored, but it has a way to process all that data locally in your computer. So, up till now, if someone has a backdoor entry to your system, it could be problematic to upload all that data. But with this, it just needs to gain access to your computer, and perform queries. They can get responses using really low bandwidth, and all the effort to summarize what you need is performed by your own computer. Hackers, governments, companies or whoever even don't need supercomputers anymore, they can use your own resources to get your private data!
You read my mind, wait until the brands slowly change your old photos to show that you were using their brands before...
Google and Meta already save everything you do online with their services
Imagine having a slow day at work and your employer decided to dock your pay because of interpreting unproductive hours as coffee break. Now they can prove it with Recall.
Regarding the quantum internet comment, it won't break the speed of light so we will never enter a "instant everything" phase. Chances are it will even be slower than normal Internet, since you have to deal with fragile quantum stuff that you need not spontaneously do something you don't want.
As someone who saw sniffers tracking packets in network and intercepting emails in 2000s I say the data of recall are already breached.
I tried afps gaming on pretty much all of the state of the art pc-in-the-cloud services.
Regular public matches were completely unplayable, not even mentioning competitive.
Tried in house gaming server with Parsec, bearable but not really comfortable.
There will never ever exist hardware to allow that level of snappiness over the network as exists with on device rendering.
Recall itself maybe don‘t send any data to Microsoft. But Microsoft has already a lot of telemetry tools implemented into Windows so they will find other ways to get that data.
"Slippery Slope Fallacy" specifically refers to slippery slope arguments where one premise doesn't logically lead to the next with enough certainty to assume it'd cascade to the end.
Which means calling something a slippery slope or otherwise implying things can get out of hand is _not_ an inherent fallacy, contrary to popular belief.
16:18 haven't we got full circle here?
From main frame (that have all your data) with local terminals that interact with your data
To local computers that hood your data
And back to mainframe (the "cloud") and a local terminal that interact with the data in the cloud (mainframe)
I won't be surprised If in a few years we get "get all of power of the cloud, in your local computer that you can access offline"
Glad to see someone rip "uhhh slippery slope fallacy" bs to shreds
Gubment: Nice company you have there, be a shame to split it up
Microsoft: Again? What do you need?
Gubment: We need recordings of everything people have done on their computers for at least the last 3 months.
Microsoft: Sure.
Hot take: low latency is more important if you aren't fast, because slowness compounds.