rarely the ref sides with my team Arsenal, but in this game the right team won. Referees have been very very shady since the lockdown. Not just premier league but almost all top leagues
Anyone wanna know how bad the refereeing was in the match? Liverpool fans were starting to have sympathy for Manchester United. Please let that sink in😂😂😂
I see people saying the ref is an Arsenal fan yet he made call favoring Manchester United as well. Calls which could have change the ties of the game significantly such as: 1. Lines man denied Gabriel Martinelli offside goal which was deflected off a Harry Maguire and could have stood since no VAR was in the FA Cup and decision is solely in the hands of the ref. If the ref decided its a goal then there is nothing Manchester United can do about it. 2. Manuel Ugarte escaped any punishment for his initial head-on-head contact with Havertz that saw the German go tumbling to the ground. Arsenal vs Brighton on Jan 4 saw head-on-head contact resulting in a foul. Manuel Ugarte could now face a 3 match ban for the incident. 3. Manchester United made 25 fouls against Arsenal there highest foul margin since the start of the season yet only one red card and 4 yellow card was issue to United players throughout the whole match. One of their lowest card issue for the amount of fouls they did it a match since the start of the season.
As one of those Liverpool fans, I can't believe I rooted for United to win when I watched it live. Madness 💀 When the officiating is so bad, you just forget any sense of rivalries and stick to the core football
NOT just Liverpool. Half the ARSENAL reactors I watched said, "That's not a pen. Havertz dived." When the ARSENAL uber-fans who make money rooting for them call them out, you know it was atrocious.
@@cheviidevii 1: It was clear offside, don't even try it 2: Havertz literally choked Ugarte out first, then pulled a Kyle Walker on everyone 3: Of course United get that many fouls with such a shit reff on the field, that's the whole point
Rather look at the slow yet steady change of tactics, from free flowing attacking football to a pragmatic and dirty approach towards every game. It wasnt just Havertz diving in that game, its almost like you play for Set Pieces now, sad to visually see the regression as a neutral, but Justice for us, and onto Leicester.
@@NoOne-ks8tu Teams have found out Arsenals set pieces and even their open play tactics, not to mention that their only attacking signings during Artetas reign is Willian(released), Gabriel Jesus, Trossard and Sterling(on loan). Also, they have 3 key attackers injured(Jesus, Nwaneri and Saka). Also countless injuries happen to key players like Calafiori, Gabriel, Timber and so many other players. Arsenal are having a mess of a season and its all their fault for not putting the money in the right places(striker, attacking mid, winger to cover for Saka).
I think Kai Havertz has got to take the blame rather than missing Saka. Kai has been watching too many finishing tutorials from Timo Werner & Darwin Nunez.
Those penalty dives from Raya were honestly the worst attempts I have ever seen from a professional goalkeeper. From the first dive for Bruno, I immediately thought: Raya's not going to save any. He might be a good goalkeeper but boy he needs to work on those penalty dives. It was bordering on comical.
Arsenal made history has the first team in England since early to mid 2000s to dominate back to back cup matches domestically and still lost both matches in less than a week (Newcastle "EFL CUP" & Manchester United "FA CUP"). This is probably the reason Arteta though they should have won.
Interesting how quick football changes. A few weeks ago we were told that man Utd are the worst team at defending set pieces. This time we defended like champs against the champs of set pieces! Funny game. And that's why we love it.
Why Arsenal refused to buy even Ivan Toney last year is beyond me especially since the title came even closer for them. Even a 2nd grade prem striker who outputs 15 goals would be the diffrence between losing the title by 1-3 points and winning it by near 9+ with their form
Lol havertz being a straight bottle when his team needs him as per tradition while zirkzee comes in clutch with the penalty will live long in the memory.
Quality channel, this really is. Look at Altay's face - passion, belief, love of United. I hope he becomes United's No1 (never rated Onana) - was proud of the boys despite one of the worst refereeing I have ever seen.
@@FootballIconic I really wanted Onana to work out, but I think he has had enough time between the sticks. Bayindir, on the other hand looked comfortable for the most part. Also, he seems to care - Onana was joking around with Salah in the last game. But the main thing I saw was a more than decent defence backed up with a quite solid midfield. The attack will catch up. In Ruben I trust and I am sure many United fans do too!
@@RachelLouiseSwann Onana is just so damn slow man. He is a bag of cement, always on his line, slow to react, never gets down to a corner, just so unreliable as a shot stopper. He is better with his feet but I just simply don't care that much, I rather have a keeper who misfires his goal kick but has a great save percentage than a keeper who can't save a shot to save his life but makes a few good passes at the back. Onana has some very weird muscular, dense-boned body type that I've just never really seen before for a goalkeeper btw, he just seems super jacked almost like a body builder but I don't know if that's a good thing as a goalkeeper honestly. Maybe that's why he's so slow.
I think its cazy yoy dont like onana but you support bayindir 100% after have some good saves yet every pass was off or bad, one he even just shot out of the pitch from goal. Onana has had like 5-10 bad performances but was solid for like 6 months before that. Onana is better than bayindir, no question
You missed the point of goalkeeping here. A goalkeeper should be able to save the ball instead of being recruited just because they can pass the ball well. Onana has done well but it's not enough @@oscar12ty
7:21 funny how this person probably screams out "free Palestine" in every comment section he/she sees and at the same time sends these kinds of threats. Pathetic
3:11 just like at the end of last season when he claimed Arsenal deserved the title. And all the previous times he’s said the same. Staying humble might be the right idea
Arsenal made history has the first team in England since early to mid 2000s to dominate back to back cup matches domestically and still lost both matches in less than a week (Newcastle "EFL CUP" & Manchester United "FA CUP"). These are probably the reason he though he should have won both games.
I'd be embarrassed if I was an Arsenal fan. They want to scam wins using dark arts, shithousery, wasting time, diving and moaning. Glad their ugly schemes and Arteta are getting exposed. Pretenders. Meanwhile my team is improving 📈
Man u have literally done the same shit for decades, the amount of marches I've watched where man u got ALL the decisions they needed and wanted from refs, Fergie time, the amount of shit Maguire got away with, headlocking players, elbowing players, gimme a break. Man u have benefitted from refs since time and memorium
Zirkzee potentially world class striker but not prepared to bust a gut for the club showed those signs to the fan base that turn against him against Newcastle. Attitude has to change from him if he wants to survive & succeed at the club. Zirkzee approach in the Liverpool game was a lot better but his speed, fitness & sharpness has to improve a lot more cos he's carrying to much weight! Against Arsenal showed more of his potential by forcing more penetration into the last third that an improvement we expected but there's still more to come from him if he wants to be a regular in this team so there's room for improvement!
@@onouphrios Yes, you're right but what do you expected from him! Don't forget we overpaid for potential not the finished artical as you can see he's learning on the job cos he has no one ahead of him to learn from accept Ruud when he were there now it's Amorim so what has to happen now is Hojlund & Zirkzee has to share the load at present till Gyoheres gets here in the summer, as long as they keep the defences occupied & get a few goals & play for the team that all we expect from them. Initial We expected Zirkzee to start the season leading the line but he had fitness issues cos he came back form the Euros overweight & wasn't ready to start the season against Fulham where Hojlund were injured from pre-season. We thought Zirkzee would have taken the initiative to be the main Striker but his passive gesture when he came on wasn't happy to see acting as 9.5 till the Newcastle game.
You are 100% right about arsenal being media darlings, if they have one first team player injured, it's an injury crisis, but spurs have a starting 11 of first team injuries, and not a word from the media or pundits.
The constant harrasment of players after a single bad game is really poor (eg: Trent), and i think part of it have to do with the gambling/betting. Stakes are too high and people do have a reason to take it personally. Constant awareness needs to be there and also more people need to voice their support for those players under attack.
Dalot's 2nd yellow was absolutely deserved but i feel his 1st wasn't, the ref was absolutely looking to send a player off since the match began, I mean look at how many yellows united had whilst arsenal was completely fine for bookings
Speaking as an Arsenal fan, the refereeing was absolutely SHOCKING in that game. As much as I wish we had gone through, obviously…it would have been a travesty if we got the win in that one. I’m honest enough to admit it. Hearing Mikel say “we didn’t get what we deserved”…. I dunno, Bro. Man’s lost the plot 😢
As an Arsenal fan, the ref performance was shocking, the maguire "pen" shouldve been a yellow for havertz and dalot didnt deserve a 2nd yellow. Im just waiting for mourinho honestly
I see people saying the ref is an Arsenal fan yet he made call favoring Manchester United as well. Calls which could have change the ties of the game significantly such as: 1. Lines man denied Gabriel Martinelli offside goal which was deflected off a Harry Maguire and could have stood since no VAR was in the FA Cup and decision is solely in the hands of the ref. If the ref decided its a goal then there is nothing Manchester United can do about it. 2. Manuel Ugarte escaped any punishment for his initial head-on-head contact with Havertz that saw the German go tumbling to the ground. Arsenal vs Brighton on Jan 4 saw head-on-head contact resulting in a foul. Manuel Ugarte could now face a 3 match ban for the incident. 3. Manchester United made 25 fouls against Arsenal there highest foul margin since the start of the season yet only one red card and 4 yellow card was issue to United players throughout the whole match. One of their lowest card issue for the amount of fouls they did it a match since the start of the season.
@@cheviidevii 1: he was waaay offside when the pass was played forward BEFORE it hit Maguire 2: same could be said for Havertz, grabbed him by the throat first, something Casemiro was sent off for recently 3: Arsenal spent the entire game (actually the entire season) pushing, shoving, diving and claiming elbows and got away with 90% of them, Uniteds fouls were high because the Ref was shite and very one sided (Maguire got booked for a clean tackle for example), giving fouls for anything United did and doing bugger all to the Arsenal players
@xiz0808 1: Would have stood if Var was being use since the ball touch a United player first. 2: Havertz should have been sent off including 2 United players resulting in the match being a 10 vs 8 player and not 11 vs 10. 3: United is known for playing dirty especially this season. They rank in the top 5 for the most cards this season so stop acting like their saints.
United is known for being dirty this season is the funniest thing I have seen today. With refs giving United cards for clean tackles ofc their foul count is high, and I never once said United were angels, but at least they're not cheating, diving, pushing and shoving like Arsenal have done all year. Havertz dived for a pen, grabbed a guys throat,. then dived trying to pretend he was headbutted all within 40 seconds. Also the top 5 for yellow cards this season is Chelsea, Southamton, Ipswich, Bournmouth and Leicester. oh and Top for red cards...Arsenal...took me literally 2 seconds to fact check that
I just don't understand why Havertz would dive there, very scummy. He's basically shimmied his way past Maguire, take a shot brother or take the contact. You're paid 250k p/w to do either. I'm not dissolutioned w/ the progress made under Arteta but I can't shake this feeling of gloom around how we play and just the atmosphere within and outside right now.
Great breakdown of the match! Arsenal looked out of ideas and overcomplicated everything, while United stayed disciplined and took their chances. And this is coming from an Arsenal fan!
The reason the neutrals sided with United is that Arsenal have played the perpetual victims for too long now and the normally indifferent neutrals have had enough of hearing about how nice Arsenals football is but it is infact quite toothless against any sides who can defend, nor do they have the mentality to put teams to the sword whenever they have a significant man/lead advantage. This and their tiresome fanbase is why everyones had enough and why United got so much support from the neutral and you dont even need to mention the transfer policy at Arsenal 😂
I will agree that the second dalot challenge was a foul but a yellow? Debatable, and it shouldn't have been a second because the first one wasn't even a foul.
I really don't like United but I rooted for them because Arsenal is just an annoying club with annoying fans. Seriously, who likes to watch them play, time wasting like a 3rd divion team when playing against a higher league club.
To a man United played like lions and their application was rewarded with the result. But I would have been at peace had we lost the penalty shootout, United showed the fight that has been missing for too many games in recent years. They have played to the death in two games running, and that should be the minimum level required.
Some friends of mine are Arsenal fans and they are the first to call out a non Arsenal player who is diving or just being unfair. But they say that Havertz did not dive and blame ManU for "only defending"...😂 that's why their fanbase is just insufferable.
Hi T, I think you and most people are underestimating how good Man Utd. have become under Amorin. I think retrospectively people will come to see that Amorin set out to evaluate and to improve the team with the Liverpool game in mind for revealing his work. With good reason. I am not saying he has transformed M. Utd, completely. They are still a work in progress, they need new players, and most of all they need to clean out some players with bad attitudes and players ruined by previous managers. But M. Utd are different, and I think they are going to finish the rest of the season well. Not fantastic, but better, and that the change will ensure Amorim's job for the next few seasons, and gives him the capital to share the team the way he wants, in cooperation with upper management of course. I am a Liverpool follower, not fan, follower.
From an Arsenal fan the referee was terrible that’s was a foul on Bruno & never ever a penalty (it was a red). But everybody know those English refs are terrible Arsenal fans being saying this for years but have been told to shut their mouth. Can take a lot of the criticism in the video but the idea that Arsenal are the media darlings over the last 3 years is hilarious they have been constantly criticized.
I really really want Tottenham to win the EFL Cup this season. Arsenal fans are already salty because of this match, this would drive it home so much more. From a Chelsea fan, COYS.
As an Arsenal fan, it serves us right that we lost. 60 minutes a man up, one penalty, several major chances and we still somehow manage to lose... against a team that we beat just a month prior in less favourable conditions. This, plus bringing Partey, of all people, on the pitch, with the accusations that we know off... it's embarassing. Worst of it? I just knew that would happen before the full time whistle was blown. The Brighton and Newcastle games before that were a disaster, too, and a clear indication that we can't score atm. It just looks like every player has lost the will to play (save for Martinelli and Jesus, whose season is now likely over) and give it their all. Arteta looks like he's out of ideas (outside of talking nonsense in press conferences, I guess). The only attacking player we recruited this season is Sterling (I feel like we actually did Chelsea a favor here). I appreciate you speaking up about not harassing players on social media. About refereeing: I agree with you, Dalot's red is deserved. It's pretty silly, too. I mean, why would you take the risk and commit that hard to a challenge, on a ball that's 40 meters away from goal, and while you're already on a yellow? He knows better than that. Unpopular opinion: idk about the penalty. Havertz falls easier than what I like to see, sure, but Maguire's arm has no business going to Havertz's chest in such a situation imho. I'm still surprised that an english ref awarded this pen (I feel like most english referees would just say "get up, softie"), and wouldn't have been super upset if he didn't award it. And then there's the whole situation when Havertz dives again after doing the face grabbing like you said. What was he hoping, to go 11 against 9? I haven't seen the full game, only highlights (luckily for me, I guess), but I suppose the whole problem with the referee wasn't just about those 2-3 situations, but his overall inconsistency during the game. We've been asking for consistency when we were penalized by bad refereeing (a certain Etihad game comes to mind), it should go both ways. And like I said, it serves us right that we lost. Y'know, a few months ago I was eager to see us playing City at home, considering how we were playing, and how they were. It's just a few weeks from now on. Now I'm just going into games hoping that we don't get any bigger slap in the face Final thought: even without all the injuries, our bench can't handle playing four major competitions at the same time, nine (NINE.) games in January. We're now out of the FA cup and basically out of the league cup. Maybe things will get better now. One can always hope lmao
As a city fan I'm more happy arsenal lost than being sad united won arsenal are a disgrace to the sport and that referee should be jailed after seeing that haverz dive i honestly wanted united to win
Harry turning into United Cult Hero is warming my heart! Being public enemy number 1 couple of seasons ago now he is a much better player and defender! Arguably one of United's best!
Can we stop downplaying these blatant ref bias as just 'mistakes' please? Mistakes happen on both sides. Not against just one team on the pitch. If Havertz remembered that he is a footballer and not a swimmer, United would be knocked out. The ref did try everything he could pull to ensure Arsenal goes through. This was not a 'mistake'. This has to be a conscious choice. I'm not saying Arsenal paid them off. I'm sure they didn't. But there definitely was a personal bias from the ref. It would be nice if we could actually hold these refs accountable instead of just downplaying as incompetence or mistakes
Amorim has been too brutal towards Casemiro & others cos we missed him against Bournemouth, Wolves & Newcastle. The initial objective is to persue a top 4 place, not playing him from the start when he has been needed could have prevented some of the goals & losses we have endured. The objective is to keep the players onside so we can get through the season & progress towards next season's champions league, any unsettling is down to Amorim, so he has to be careful! The Damage has already been done in December but by end of May we want Top 6 & champions league spot! Keep it in the family!
Casemiro’s only value at this point is his box threat and passing ability. he doesn’t have the legs to play in a system that focus on running and pressing so much unfortunately, guy needs to move to Saudi and relax, he deserves it. was unplayable in that 22/23 and Ten Hag made it his personal mission to run him into the ground last season
Everyone always says this, then the second we let him on, it’s a catastrophe. Yeas Ten Hag screwed him, but unfortunately, he doesn’t fit Amorims style
am an arsenal fan and what you said about time wasting is spot on. not just on this game but almost every other game this season, we take too long on throw ins, corners, free kicks etc and it drives me crazy. honestly i think united's defence was ok, because if arsenal took even half of their decent chances, game would have been 3-1 or 4-1. it was a 50/50 mix between an ok defence vs a wasteful attack. the moment a striker chooses to blatantly dive instead of taking a clearly perfect opportunity to score tells all you need to know.
the beautiful thing about your Havertz "apologist" point, is that we can't tell if you're serious. Istopped watching "match repots" but yours are very good and very calm. I love it. Good job, man.
I think it's bc Havertz at times has these games were he is brilliant, and it seemed he turned it around at arsenal but then he drops performances like the ones these last few weeks, and it's like what happened to the kid at leverkusen
I see people saying the ref is an Arsenal fan yet he made call favoring Manchester United as well. Calls which could have change the ties of the game significantly such as: 1. Lines man denied Gabriel Martinelli offside goal which was deflected off a Harry Maguire and could have stood since no VAR was in the FA Cup and decision is solely in the hands of the ref. If the ref decided its a goal then there is nothing Manchester United can do about it. 2. Manuel Ugarte escaped any punishment for his initial head-on-head contact with Havertz that saw the German go tumbling to the ground. Arsenal vs Brighton on Jan 4 saw head-on-head contact resulting in a foul. Manuel Ugarte could now face a 3 match ban for the incident. 3. Manchester United made 25 fouls against Arsenal there highest foul margin since the start of the season yet only one red card and 4 yellow card was issue to United players throughout the whole match. One of their lowest card issue for the amount of fouls they did it a match since the start of the season.
I see people saying the ref is an Arsenal fan yet he made call favoring Manchester United as well. Calls which could have change the ties of the game significantly such as: 1. Lines man denied Gabriel Martinelli offside goal which was deflected off a Harry Maguire and could have stood since no VAR was in the FA Cup and decision is solely in the hands of the ref. If the ref decided its a goal then there is nothing Manchester United can do about it. 2. Manuel Ugarte escaped any punishment for his initial head-on-head contact with Havertz that saw the German go tumbling to the ground. Arsenal vs Brighton on Jan 4 saw head-on-head contact resulting in a foul. Manuel Ugarte could now face a 3 match ban for the incident. 3. Manchester United made 25 fouls against Arsenal there highest foul margin since the start of the season yet only one red card and 4 yellow card was issue to United players throughout the whole match. One of their lowest card issue for the amount of fouls they did it a match since the start of the season.
I've got eyes and a brain.. I can see when something stinks or not. Just like the government! I don't need to be honeydicked by stats, xg, system.. process bullsh1t 😂 It was a sending off, I'm not saying it wasn't. Never a penalty! And the diving about from Hazert 🤣. Everytime a United player touched or tackled someone, it was a foul and booking.. Arsenal, nothing!?! And all the diving and nothing happens!?! It was like they was trying to get utd down to 10 men so Arsenal have a better chance 😂 and the white kit thinking they are the Real Madrid of England 😂😂 I don't get fooled and honeydicked by this Hollywood circus. In 40 years watching football, it was one of the worst refereeing displays I've seen! Corrupt as fuck! Funny because everyone's saying it, other than Arsenal fans 😂 10 vs 12 and still couldn't get it over the line. Justice!
It was so obvious that Kai dived to everyone except the ref ,that the collective will of the millions watching the game ,even Liverpool fans, spiritually sealed Arse. E Nil. ‘S fate.
I have never seen a 10 vs 13 match before, where the former has won and I must admit, Havertz impressed me with his point blank misses. As a United fan, I can vouch that we won't forget this game in a long time! 😂
Amorin got a howler from the ministry almost got expelled from hogwarts but pulled a dumbledore at the last minute and saved our beloved wizards arse basically 😊
You just have to feel for the referee, he did all that and his team still lost😔😔
I was half expecting him to be subbed in for Haverts as striker
Have to applaud the effort
I was expecting him to head the ball in when Arsenal had that 120th min corner
rarely the ref sides with my team Arsenal, but in this game the right team won. Referees have been very very shady since the lockdown. Not just premier league but almost all top leagues
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Anyone wanna know how bad the refereeing was in the match?
Liverpool fans were starting to have sympathy for Manchester United. Please let that sink in😂😂😂
I see people saying the ref is an Arsenal fan yet he made call favoring Manchester United as well. Calls which could have change the ties of the game significantly such as:
1. Lines man denied Gabriel Martinelli offside goal which was deflected off a Harry Maguire and could have stood since no VAR was in the FA Cup and decision is solely in the hands of the ref. If the ref decided its a goal then there is nothing Manchester United can do about it.
2. Manuel Ugarte escaped any punishment for his initial head-on-head contact with Havertz that saw the German go tumbling to the ground. Arsenal vs Brighton on Jan 4 saw head-on-head contact resulting in a foul. Manuel Ugarte could now face a 3 match ban for the incident.
3. Manchester United made 25 fouls against Arsenal there highest foul margin since the start of the season yet only one red card and 4 yellow card was issue to United players throughout the whole match. One of their lowest card issue for the amount of fouls they did it a match since the start of the season.
@@cheviideviiHe is lol 😂
As one of those Liverpool fans, I can't believe I rooted for United to win when I watched it live. Madness 💀
When the officiating is so bad, you just forget any sense of rivalries and stick to the core football
NOT just Liverpool. Half the ARSENAL reactors I watched said, "That's not a pen. Havertz dived."
When the ARSENAL uber-fans who make money rooting for them call them out, you know it was atrocious.
@@cheviidevii
1: It was clear offside, don't even try it
2: Havertz literally choked Ugarte out first, then pulled a Kyle Walker on everyone
3: Of course United get that many fouls with such a shit reff on the field, that's the whole point
Saka really was holding this club together, as there is no way his absence can lead to such a collapse
Has to be more to it...
Rather look at the slow yet steady change of tactics, from free flowing attacking football to a pragmatic and dirty approach towards every game. It wasnt just Havertz diving in that game, its almost like you play for Set Pieces now, sad to visually see the regression as a neutral, but Justice for us, and onto Leicester.
@@NoOne-ks8tu Teams have found out Arsenals set pieces and even their open play tactics, not to mention that their only attacking signings during Artetas reign is Willian(released), Gabriel Jesus, Trossard and Sterling(on loan). Also, they have 3 key attackers injured(Jesus, Nwaneri and Saka). Also countless injuries happen to key players like Calafiori, Gabriel, Timber and so many other players. Arsenal are having a mess of a season and its all their fault for not putting the money in the right places(striker, attacking mid, winger to cover for Saka).
I think Kai Havertz has got to take the blame rather than missing Saka. Kai has been watching too many finishing tutorials from Timo Werner & Darwin Nunez.
@@kierangan7944 True. But I have noticed a slow pace and lack of dynamic attacks that I usually saw with Saka. Also better finishing
Arteta made a mistake. He should have let the ref take that penalty instead of Havertz
Lmao might've scored tbh 😂😂😂😂
Manchester United is one of the clubs in the world
Yes they are one of the clubs…
The most club
Of all the teams, they definitely are one of them. This is true
Now this is ball knowledge I aspire to have
@@AdesteFidelis 😂😂😂
10 vs 12 and we still prevailed!
Bro thinks he is in the team
@@allmightjr.3835i saw him on the pitch. Don't know what game you were watching
might have been 11v11 cuz havertz was clearly a united player
@@allmightjr.3835We sent him undercover as Kai Havertz, and he managed to emulate him perfectly
@@FootballIconic😂
I think Arteta meant "we didn't get what we paid for"
3rd time asking Tinashe to make a video on Thiago Motta's Juventus and how weird they are at the moment (plus a video on Atalanta)
+ 1 more serie A content please🫡
Just to show the how overrated arsenal’s invincible was . Juve could go unbeaten and finish in europa league 🤣
@@A49926 There have been teams that have gone undefeated and not won the league.
Juve’s current run of form is basically what you get when an evil genie grants you your wish to never lose a league game 😂
Those penalty dives from Raya were honestly the worst attempts I have ever seen from a professional goalkeeper. From the first dive for Bruno, I immediately thought: Raya's not going to save any. He might be a good goalkeeper but boy he needs to work on those penalty dives. It was bordering on comical.
I'm still shocked that Arteta believes they deserved a win, unbelievable.
Arsenal made history has the first team in England since early to mid 2000s to dominate back to back cup matches domestically and still lost both matches in less than a week (Newcastle "EFL CUP" & Manchester United "FA CUP"). This is probably the reason Arteta though they should have won.
his mentality is exactly why they’re trophy-less 5 years in a row, shelter for abused players lmaooo
If I had paid the referee to arrange a win for me I would wonder why I lost too 😂
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Interesting how quick football changes. A few weeks ago we were told that man Utd are the worst team at defending set pieces. This time we defended like champs against the champs of set pieces! Funny game. And that's why we love it.
Why Arsenal refused to buy even Ivan Toney last year is beyond me especially since the title came even closer for them. Even a 2nd grade prem striker who outputs 15 goals would be the diffrence between losing the title by 1-3 points and winning it by near 9+ with their form
Lol havertz being a straight bottle when his team needs him as per tradition while zirkzee comes in clutch with the penalty will live long in the memory.
Quality channel, this really is. Look at Altay's face - passion, belief, love of United. I hope he becomes United's No1 (never rated Onana) - was proud of the boys despite one of the worst refereeing I have ever seen.
Bayindir's changed a lot of opinions!
@@FootballIconic I really wanted Onana to work out, but I think he has had enough time between the sticks. Bayindir, on the other hand looked comfortable for the most part. Also, he seems to care - Onana was joking around with Salah in the last game. But the main thing I saw was a more than decent defence backed up with a quite solid midfield. The attack will catch up. In Ruben I trust and I am sure many United fans do too!
@@RachelLouiseSwann Onana is just so damn slow man. He is a bag of cement, always on his line, slow to react, never gets down to a corner, just so unreliable as a shot stopper. He is better with his feet but I just simply don't care that much, I rather have a keeper who misfires his goal kick but has a great save percentage than a keeper who can't save a shot to save his life but makes a few good passes at the back.
Onana has some very weird muscular, dense-boned body type that I've just never really seen before for a goalkeeper btw, he just seems super jacked almost like a body builder but I don't know if that's a good thing as a goalkeeper honestly. Maybe that's why he's so slow.
I think its cazy yoy dont like onana but you support bayindir 100% after have some good saves yet every pass was off or bad, one he even just shot out of the pitch from goal. Onana has had like 5-10 bad performances but was solid for like 6 months before that. Onana is better than bayindir, no question
You missed the point of goalkeeping here. A goalkeeper should be able to save the ball instead of being recruited just because they can pass the ball well. Onana has done well but it's not enough @@oscar12ty
7:21 funny how this person probably screams out "free Palestine" in every comment section he/she sees and at the same time sends these kinds of threats. Pathetic
It wasn't a 12 v 10 but a 11 v 11 match.
Arsenal had the referee playing for them.
United had havertz playing for us.
I honestly feel like Barca would have put maybe 3 more goals past Madrid if they had 11 on the field. They were absolutely ruthless the entire 90.
"more 4s and 5s in here than when me and my friends decide to go on a night out" damn, lmao
3:11 just like at the end of last season when he claimed Arsenal deserved the title. And all the previous times he’s said the same. Staying humble might be the right idea
Arsenal made history has the first team in England since early to mid 2000s to dominate back to back cup matches domestically and still lost both matches in less than a week (Newcastle "EFL CUP" & Manchester United "FA CUP"). These are probably the reason he though he should have won both games.
As a Manchester United and Barcelona fan, Sunday was a great day
Same here, It made up for all the shit weekends they’ve given us at times
Me too. What a performance from Manchester United and Barca
Sameeeeeeee
Saaame, but as a Barcelona and Manchester United fan.
Finally founded. Cause usually united fans support Madrid but yeah I support Barca as long as I support united ✌🏻
I'd be embarrassed if I was an Arsenal fan. They want to scam wins using dark arts, shithousery, wasting time, diving and moaning. Glad their ugly schemes and Arteta are getting exposed. Pretenders.
Meanwhile my team is improving 📈
Man u have literally done the same shit for decades, the amount of marches I've watched where man u got ALL the decisions they needed and wanted from refs, Fergie time, the amount of shit Maguire got away with, headlocking players, elbowing players, gimme a break. Man u have benefitted from refs since time and memorium
Arsenal vs newcastle Isak was being pulled down during one of their transition attack. In this game bruno was the victim of this arteta dark arts
As Sheed Wallace says “The ball don’t lie”
Zirkzee potentially world class striker but not prepared to bust a gut for the club showed those signs to the fan base that turn against him against Newcastle.
Attitude has to change from him if he wants to survive & succeed at the club.
Zirkzee approach in the Liverpool game was a lot better but his speed, fitness & sharpness has to improve a lot more cos he's carrying to much weight!
Against Arsenal showed more of his potential by forcing more penetration into the last third that an improvement we expected but there's still more to come from him if he wants to be a regular in this team so there's room for improvement!
thoughts on Hojlund? he looks completely lost out there. shouldn’t start any upcoming matches tbh
@@onouphrios Yes, you're right but what do you expected from him! Don't forget we overpaid for potential not the finished artical as you can see he's learning on the job cos he has no one ahead of him to learn from accept Ruud when he were there now it's Amorim so what has to happen now is Hojlund & Zirkzee has to share the load at present till Gyoheres gets here in the summer, as long as they keep the defences occupied & get a few goals & play for the team that all we expect from them.
Initial We expected Zirkzee to start the season leading the line but he had fitness issues cos he came back form the Euros overweight & wasn't ready to start the season against Fulham where Hojlund were injured from pre-season. We thought Zirkzee would have taken the initiative to be the main Striker but his passive gesture when he came on wasn't happy to see acting as 9.5 till the Newcastle game.
You are 100% right about arsenal being media darlings, if they have one first team player injured, it's an injury crisis, but spurs have a starting 11 of first team injuries, and not a word from the media or pundits.
The constant harrasment of players after a single bad game is really poor (eg: Trent), and i think part of it have to do with the gambling/betting. Stakes are too high and people do have a reason to take it personally. Constant awareness needs to be there and also more people need to voice their support for those players under attack.
Dalot's 2nd yellow was absolutely deserved but i feel his 1st wasn't, the ref was absolutely looking to send a player off since the match began, I mean look at how many yellows united had whilst arsenal was completely fine for bookings
Speaking as an Arsenal fan, the refereeing was absolutely SHOCKING in that game. As much as I wish we had gone through, obviously…it would have been a travesty if we got the win in that one. I’m honest enough to admit it. Hearing Mikel say “we didn’t get what we deserved”…. I dunno, Bro. Man’s lost the plot 😢
As an Arsenal fan, the ref performance was shocking, the maguire "pen" shouldve been a yellow for havertz and dalot didnt deserve a 2nd yellow. Im just waiting for mourinho honestly
I see people saying the ref is an Arsenal fan yet he made call favoring Manchester United as well. Calls which could have change the ties of the game significantly such as:
1. Lines man denied Gabriel Martinelli offside goal which was deflected off a Harry Maguire and could have stood since no VAR was in the FA Cup and decision is solely in the hands of the ref. If the ref decided its a goal then there is nothing Manchester United can do about it.
2. Manuel Ugarte escaped any punishment for his initial head-on-head contact with Havertz that saw the German go tumbling to the ground. Arsenal vs Brighton on Jan 4 saw head-on-head contact resulting in a foul. Manuel Ugarte could now face a 3 match ban for the incident.
3. Manchester United made 25 fouls against Arsenal there highest foul margin since the start of the season yet only one red card and 4 yellow card was issue to United players throughout the whole match. One of their lowest card issue for the amount of fouls they did it a match since the start of the season.
@@cheviidevii 1: he was waaay offside when the pass was played forward BEFORE it hit Maguire
2: same could be said for Havertz, grabbed him by the throat first, something Casemiro was sent off for recently
3: Arsenal spent the entire game (actually the entire season) pushing, shoving, diving and claiming elbows and got away with 90% of them, Uniteds fouls were high because the Ref was shite and very one sided (Maguire got booked for a clean tackle for example), giving fouls for anything United did and doing bugger all to the Arsenal players
@xiz0808 1: Would have stood if Var was being use since the ball touch a United player first. 2: Havertz should have been sent off including 2 United players resulting in the match being a 10 vs 8 player and not 11 vs 10.
3: United is known for playing dirty especially this season. They rank in the top 5 for the most cards this season so stop acting like their saints.
United is known for being dirty this season is the funniest thing I have seen today. With refs giving United cards for clean tackles ofc their foul count is high, and I never once said United were angels, but at least they're not cheating, diving, pushing and shoving like Arsenal have done all year. Havertz dived for a pen, grabbed a guys throat,. then dived trying to pretend he was headbutted all within 40 seconds.
Also the top 5 for yellow cards this season is Chelsea, Southamton, Ipswich, Bournmouth and Leicester. oh and Top for red cards...Arsenal...took me literally 2 seconds to fact check that
Lol cry about your time wasting team taking an L despite the ref favouring arsenal heavily @@cheviidevii
English referees are easily the worst referees in the world. In the Prem even with all the help of technology they make so many wrong calls
As a liverpool fan, this was comparable to spurs 2-1 liverpool in 23/24 to me.
As a united fan agree.
At least your owners had the balls to threaten the ref.
So true 😂
Or the ucl final 2018/19 or the 4:3 Liverpool when jota tried to ducaptiate skipp
Or the ucl final 2018/19 or the 4:3 Liverpool when jota tried to ducaptiate skipp
8:44 diabolical 😂😂😂
I am a big fan of Arsenal's new Orange kit, they should wear that more often...
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I just don't understand why Havertz would dive there, very scummy. He's basically shimmied his way past Maguire, take a shot brother or take the contact. You're paid 250k p/w to do either. I'm not dissolutioned w/ the progress made under Arteta but I can't shake this feeling of gloom around how we play and just the atmosphere within and outside right now.
Great breakdown of the match! Arsenal looked out of ideas and overcomplicated everything, while United stayed disciplined and took their chances. And this is coming from an Arsenal fan!
The reason the neutrals sided with United is that Arsenal have played the perpetual victims for too long now and the normally indifferent neutrals have had enough of hearing about how nice Arsenals football is but it is infact quite toothless against any sides who can defend, nor do they have the mentality to put teams to the sword whenever they have a significant man/lead advantage.
This and their tiresome fanbase is why everyones had enough and why United got so much support from the neutral and you dont even need to mention the transfer policy at Arsenal 😂
I saw ManU fans saying they were playing 12v10. This is incorrect, it was still 11v11 bc Havertz were playing for y'all.
I will agree that the second dalot challenge was a foul but a yellow? Debatable, and it shouldn't have been a second because the first one wasn't even a foul.
I really don't like United but I rooted for them because Arsenal is just an annoying club with annoying fans. Seriously, who likes to watch them play, time wasting like a 3rd divion team when playing against a higher league club.
second yellow not deserved, didn't even touch the guy, English game is so soft
🤣🤣 This is the Maguire we all want.. A Man United player openly calling an opponent a sh*tbag is a change in mentality
Always love the videos ❤
You ever think about doing a video on Everton? We’re quite a story.
Being an Arsenal fan it was just shameful to watch that match and watching that interview of Arteta. Well played MU u definitely deserved the win
To a man United played like lions and their application was rewarded with the result. But I would have been at peace had we lost the penalty shootout, United showed the fight that has been missing for too many games in recent years. They have played to the death in two games running, and that should be the minimum level required.
A draw against Liverpool and a win against Arsenal with 10 men........No more excuses !!
This comes to show how unpredictable football can be even with bad calls from the refereer can't change it's fate
Some friends of mine are Arsenal fans and they are the first to call out a non Arsenal player who is diving or just being unfair. But they say that Havertz did not dive and blame ManU for "only defending"...😂 that's why their fanbase is just insufferable.
Brfore brunos goal the xg was 0.16(ars)-0.1(mun)
They deserve missing all those sitters while creating 3 xg
Hi T,
I think you and most people are underestimating how good Man Utd. have become under Amorin.
I think retrospectively people will come to see that Amorin set out to evaluate and to improve the team with the Liverpool game in mind for revealing his work. With good reason.
I am not saying he has transformed M. Utd, completely. They are still a work in progress, they need new players, and most of all they need to clean out some players with bad attitudes and players ruined by previous managers.
But M. Utd are different, and I think they are going to finish the rest of the season well. Not fantastic, but better, and that the change will ensure Amorim's job for the next few seasons, and gives him the capital to share the team the way he wants, in cooperation with upper management of course.
I am a Liverpool follower, not fan, follower.
Barcelona mentioned, I'm happy, thanks man
Arteta is beginning to sound like Eric Ten Hag which is a bad sign, also seen it with Brendan Rogers twilight at Liverpool.
From an Arsenal fan the referee was terrible that’s was a foul on Bruno & never ever a penalty (it was a red). But everybody know those English refs are terrible Arsenal fans being saying this for years but have been told to shut their mouth. Can take a lot of the criticism in the video but the idea that Arsenal are the media darlings over the last 3 years is hilarious they have been constantly criticized.
I really really want Tottenham to win the EFL Cup this season. Arsenal fans are already salty because of this match, this would drive it home so much more.
From a Chelsea fan, COYS.
As an Arsenal fan, it serves us right that we lost.
60 minutes a man up, one penalty, several major chances and we still somehow manage to lose... against a team that we beat just a month prior in less favourable conditions. This, plus bringing Partey, of all people, on the pitch, with the accusations that we know off... it's embarassing. Worst of it? I just knew that would happen before the full time whistle was blown.
The Brighton and Newcastle games before that were a disaster, too, and a clear indication that we can't score atm.
It just looks like every player has lost the will to play (save for Martinelli and Jesus, whose season is now likely over) and give it their all. Arteta looks like he's out of ideas (outside of talking nonsense in press conferences, I guess). The only attacking player we recruited this season is Sterling (I feel like we actually did Chelsea a favor here).
I appreciate you speaking up about not harassing players on social media.
About refereeing: I agree with you, Dalot's red is deserved. It's pretty silly, too. I mean, why would you take the risk and commit that hard to a challenge, on a ball that's 40 meters away from goal, and while you're already on a yellow? He knows better than that.
Unpopular opinion: idk about the penalty. Havertz falls easier than what I like to see, sure, but Maguire's arm has no business going to Havertz's chest in such a situation imho. I'm still surprised that an english ref awarded this pen (I feel like most english referees would just say "get up, softie"), and wouldn't have been super upset if he didn't award it.
And then there's the whole situation when Havertz dives again after doing the face grabbing like you said. What was he hoping, to go 11 against 9?
I haven't seen the full game, only highlights (luckily for me, I guess), but I suppose the whole problem with the referee wasn't just about those 2-3 situations, but his overall inconsistency during the game. We've been asking for consistency when we were penalized by bad refereeing (a certain Etihad game comes to mind), it should go both ways. And like I said, it serves us right that we lost.
Y'know, a few months ago I was eager to see us playing City at home, considering how we were playing, and how they were. It's just a few weeks from now on. Now I'm just going into games hoping that we don't get any bigger slap in the face
Final thought: even without all the injuries, our bench can't handle playing four major competitions at the same time, nine (NINE.) games in January.
We're now out of the FA cup and basically out of the league cup. Maybe things will get better now. One can always hope lmao
As a city fan I'm more happy arsenal lost than being sad united won arsenal are a disgrace to the sport and that referee should be jailed after seeing that haverz dive i honestly wanted united to win
Please, Tinashe, we need a video on the demolition derby that was the Supercopa Final. The boys did some incredible work.
De Ligt's goal line clearance 😍😍😍
I cannot believe you said nothing happened in the first half.This is where the battle was won.
Those penalties got me nervous but I became calm
When I saw the Arsenal keeper diving before players even started to shoot
Bayındır is on 🔥, Onana needs to be benched.
I was waiting for this one.
Been waiting for this video... Justice💪💪💪
I don’t even think Dalot touched martinelli for the second yellow…
Harry turning into United Cult Hero is warming my heart! Being public enemy number 1 couple of seasons ago now he is a much better player and defender! Arguably one of United's best!
Can we stop downplaying these blatant ref bias as just 'mistakes' please?
Mistakes happen on both sides. Not against just one team on the pitch. If Havertz remembered that he is a footballer and not a swimmer, United would be knocked out. The ref did try everything he could pull to ensure Arsenal goes through.
This was not a 'mistake'. This has to be a conscious choice.
I'm not saying Arsenal paid them off. I'm sure they didn't. But there definitely was a personal bias from the ref.
It would be nice if we could actually hold these refs accountable instead of just downplaying as incompetence or mistakes
Amorim has been too brutal towards Casemiro & others cos we missed him against Bournemouth, Wolves & Newcastle.
The initial objective is to persue a top 4 place, not playing him from the start when he has been needed could have prevented some of the goals & losses we have endured.
The objective is to keep the players onside so we can get through the season & progress towards next season's champions league, any unsettling is down to Amorim, so he has to be careful!
The Damage has already been done in December but by end of May we want Top 6 & champions league spot!
Keep it in the family!
Casemiro’s only value at this point is his box threat and passing ability. he doesn’t have the legs to play in a system that focus on running and pressing so much unfortunately, guy needs to move to Saudi and relax, he deserves it. was unplayable in that 22/23 and Ten Hag made it his personal mission to run him into the ground last season
Everyone always says this, then the second we let him on, it’s a catastrophe. Yeas Ten Hag screwed him, but unfortunately, he doesn’t fit Amorims style
am an arsenal fan and what you said about time wasting is spot on. not just on this game but almost every other game this season, we take too long on throw ins, corners, free kicks etc and it drives me crazy.
honestly i think united's defence was ok, because if arsenal took even half of their decent chances, game would have been 3-1 or 4-1. it was a 50/50 mix between an ok defence vs a wasteful attack.
the moment a striker chooses to blatantly dive instead of taking a clearly perfect opportunity to score tells all you need to know.
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Goated channel 👍
i have been waiting for this video 😂
arteta has lost his charm
the beautiful thing about your Havertz "apologist" point, is that we can't tell if you're serious.
Istopped watching "match repots" but yours are very good and very calm. I love it. Good job, man.
I think it's bc Havertz at times has these games were he is brilliant, and it seemed he turned it around at arsenal but then he drops performances like the ones these last few weeks, and it's like what happened to the kid at leverkusen
Lads, the referee had to make up for the 0.5 of a player that Arsenal had up front
You're being too generous. He's a 0.2
If Havertz scored 0.5 of the goals expected of an Arsenal striker he'd be sitting on 20 for the season.
Thank you for the videos Tinashe! LEGEND ⚫⚪🔴
Arteta's Everton history is showing😂😂
6:08 anyone pointed out yet that the fact that he cannot finish would make him the ultimate gooner? he's at the right club.
Who's protecting these refs
they actually thought they would win with Sterling , Havertz and Martinelli 😂😂😂😂😂
The ref needs investigating
I see people saying the ref is an Arsenal fan yet he made call favoring Manchester United as well. Calls which could have change the ties of the game significantly such as:
1. Lines man denied Gabriel Martinelli offside goal which was deflected off a Harry Maguire and could have stood since no VAR was in the FA Cup and decision is solely in the hands of the ref. If the ref decided its a goal then there is nothing Manchester United can do about it.
2. Manuel Ugarte escaped any punishment for his initial head-on-head contact with Havertz that saw the German go tumbling to the ground. Arsenal vs Brighton on Jan 4 saw head-on-head contact resulting in a foul. Manuel Ugarte could now face a 3 match ban for the incident.
3. Manchester United made 25 fouls against Arsenal there highest foul margin since the start of the season yet only one red card and 4 yellow card was issue to United players throughout the whole match. One of their lowest card issue for the amount of fouls they did it a match since the start of the season.
I see people saying the ref is an Arsenal fan yet he made call favoring Manchester United as well. Calls which could have change the ties of the game significantly such as:
1. Lines man denied Gabriel Martinelli offside goal which was deflected off a Harry Maguire and could have stood since no VAR was in the FA Cup and decision is solely in the hands of the ref. If the ref decided its a goal then there is nothing Manchester United can do about it.
2. Manuel Ugarte escaped any punishment for his initial head-on-head contact with Havertz that saw the German go tumbling to the ground. Arsenal vs Brighton on Jan 4 saw head-on-head contact resulting in a foul. Manuel Ugarte could now face a 3 match ban for the incident.
3. Manchester United made 25 fouls against Arsenal there highest foul margin since the start of the season yet only one red card and 4 yellow card was issue to United players throughout the whole match. One of their lowest card issue for the amount of fouls they did it a match since the start of the season.
I've got eyes and a brain.. I can see when something stinks or not. Just like the government!
I don't need to be honeydicked by stats, xg, system.. process bullsh1t 😂
It was a sending off, I'm not saying it wasn't. Never a penalty! And the diving about from Hazert 🤣. Everytime a United player touched or tackled someone, it was a foul and booking.. Arsenal, nothing!?! And all the diving and nothing happens!?! It was like they was trying to get utd down to 10 men so Arsenal have a better chance 😂 and the white kit thinking they are the Real Madrid of England 😂😂 I don't get fooled and honeydicked by this Hollywood circus.
In 40 years watching football, it was one of the worst refereeing displays I've seen! Corrupt as fuck! Funny because everyone's saying it, other than Arsenal fans 😂
10 vs 12 and still couldn't get it over the line.
Justice!
Another good thing that came out from this result is AFTV back to its prime mode again. 😅
Gotta make a time machine to bring back a young pierluigi
Oh the video I been looking for
It was so obvious that Kai dived to everyone except the ref ,that the collective will of the millions watching the game ,even Liverpool fans, spiritually sealed Arse. E Nil. ‘S fate.
How Arsenal went from a potent attacking team to cornerdependencia needs to be studied.
I swear We need to get rid of all English refs, all of them horrendous
I have never seen a 10 vs 13 match before, where the former has won and I must admit, Havertz impressed me with his point blank misses.
As a United fan, I can vouch that we won't forget this game in a long time! 😂
The Zirkzee nutmeg on saliba was 👌
Shout out for the Kun Aguero reference... Man squeezes balls in the net from anywhere. Kudos on Martinez for that goal 😅
Ref needs investigation!
Szymon Marciniak mentioned 💯💯🇵🇱
'Ironic that Arsenal were wearing white kits to stand up against crime cuz someone should be locked up for what we were watching' -Tinashe💀
Justice felt great
Arsenal fan here. United deserved their win. Actually it was kind of nice to see.
The cheek of Utd fans when the Fergie era was littered with ref corruption
Great vid. Not a fan of United or Arsenal, I enjoy seeing both suffer, but I was rooting for ManU that game bc Arsenal have been a disgrace.
If you know the ref's name - he's a bad ref unless he is a true goat like collina
Damn Arsenal fans really shut up with those red card excuses very quick 😂 so much for it being a conspiracy against them
as an arsenal fan im happy we lost
Amorin got a howler from the ministry almost got expelled from hogwarts but pulled a dumbledore at the last minute and saved our beloved wizards arse basically 😊