I like how your Kerbal survived aaaaaall the incredible way from space through the atmosphere IN A BOAT just to presumably die a lonely death in the middle of this ocean.
Oberst Merkel no way, it's jebediah. he'll use his survival gear to catch fish, and rope himself a couple of sea turtles to tow him to a nearby island who's sole inhabitant is a hot, scantily clad kerbalina that lives in a lamp and grants wishes. sea turtles mate.
"Well we could add little pilot seats and actually have crew trying to surf the fairings back through the atmosphere. So! That's what I'm doing!" *Maniacal laughter* I think Scott has either turned into an evil overlord or toby turner. What do you guys think?
I recall a scifi movie from the 1970ies or perhaps the late 60ies called "Dark Star" I think the space craft breaks up in re-entry or breaks up via another standard means. Anyhoover, one of the astronauts surf re-entry on a piece of debris from the broken up space craft. I think that is how the movie ends & you are only left to assume if he survives reentry & free fall.
"listen Doolitle i think i ve caught a wave ,(benson Arizona playing), he vaporising in atmosphere... :) " i think that 70s movie called "dark star one" and the end of it is best thing i ve ever seen in space movies
like all lovers of the film Dark Star I was singing this: "Benson, Arizona, blew warm wind through your hair My body flies the galaxy, my heart longs to be there Benson, Arizona, the same stars in the sky But they seemed so much kinder when we watched them, you and I" ... for those not aware of the film, WHY NOT!? :)
Scott! I love coming home after college classes and watching your videos. Always do such a great job, and I really enjoy them until the end. Keep up the awesome work!
How much do fairings cost that it would be worth recovering them? I was under the impression that they were basically well designed sheets of aluminum(or something similar)
i once had a gull kited out with some weapons and engines on the floats, then i seperated the cockpit from the rest of the plane with full engine power and it just did a few backflips and landed nicely in the water, not a single part missing. it was beatigull
Khaled Almunla. i actually have wondered if such a thing was possible. presumably with enough surface area for a given mass you could bring reentry heat down enough for non specialized materials to survive.
SpaceX should totally put control surfaces and stuff on its fairings... Currently they're probably going to use steerable parachutes, but this fairing-as-a-glider thing looks like way more fun if we can make it work. :P
That so called Cornfield Bomber was not even actually bomber it was Convair F-106A Delta Dart and its bit werid id plane enters flat spin but makes belly landing without pilot and almost no damage at all.
MythicFrost, the early F-106's had very bad stall characteristics and the sudden force exerted by the ejection seat firing pushed the nose in such a way as to nullify the effects of the flat spin. With the CG re-balanced the aircraft, with some slight nose up trim, began level flight once more and continued on until it landed in a WHEAT FIELD and subsequently ran out of fuel. I guess "Wheat Field Fighter" doesn't sound as great though.
Reminds me of the hacky boats people modded into Microsoft Flight Sim 2004. If you went max speed and hit a bump in the water just right (yes, bump in the water... not a wave, mind you), you could eke a few m/s of upward speed and fly the boat around. I got quite adept at landing cigarette boats at big airports.
A variation of this has been "done" before by Flash Gordon sometime in the late 1950's or early 1960's. He & another, probably Dale Arden were in an enclosed cylinder which had a bulkhead with a hatch at each end where there was a hemisphere end cap. They got in & he used his ray gun to melt the metal so that that enclosed end would separate & descend into the atmosphere. As I remember there was a problem with standing/laying on a surface that was getting real hot. I don't know how they landed but there were around for next week's comics.
When my friends ask what Kerbal space program is, I will show them that clip of the helicopter consisting of two pieces of shattered wing, a fuel tank, and a magical floating rogue jet engine.
On the whole "reusable fairings" issue, would it be practical for SpaceX to have fairings that stayed attached to the rocket stage and unfolded like the Apollo/Saturn interstage?
That single panel kinda looked like a wheel rolling down the hill. So, Scott, you have not only inventen monocopter, you invented a square piloted wheel.
Real talk - Why not just have the fairings hinge apart to let the payload out, and then close back up and remain attached to the second stage? Like opening from /\ to \_/ and then closing?
yes. because i really wanted to know what the mod list to gallileo conquest. i havn't found the current streams modlist and i was asking for that one. or in a way you would understand: lmgtfy.com/?q=don%27t+be+a+douchebag
If Space X is willing, I'll volunteer to be a fairing test pilot. I think fairing re-entry is better suited for humans then Kerbals as we can use our limbs to help put additional mass on different points to help stabilize it.
Though I will also need a cowboy hat, so I can recreate the scene from the ending of the movie "Dr. Strangelove or How I learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb" Oh and definitely a parachute for the fairing, and preferably one for me as well.
you should have some sort of inverted wing forward of the CG to pull the front of the fairing down and it should be more controllable. you should also look at more like a lifting body.
Space X will one day try to return the fuel from the launch too.
"If we follow behind the rocket with helicopters which scoop up the exhaust gasses and then react them in order to......."
or a rocket tube that works like a lava lamp O_O
Benjamin Casillas helicopters? No that's ULA, spaceX gives the fuel a landing system..
I like how your Kerbal survived aaaaaall the incredible way from space through the atmosphere IN A BOAT just to presumably die a lonely death in the middle of this ocean.
Oberst Merkel oh no, he found an island and a volleyball, and learned about dentistry, it really did end quite nicely
Wilson Kerman.
*Voit Kermann
The volleyball was wilson kerman
Oberst Merkel
no way, it's jebediah.
he'll use his survival gear to catch fish, and rope himself a couple of sea turtles to tow him to a nearby island who's sole inhabitant is a hot, scantily clad kerbalina that lives in a lamp
and grants wishes.
sea turtles mate.
well, good to see this is _fairing_ well
D.....Dad?!
Ha
HunYol lol
well thanks for sticking out the joke in Italics otherwise I'm pretty sure No one would've ever gotten it yeah?
Im sorry would you like to die? Because you're asking for it with jokes like that.
Those are not Fairings, those are Fairwings ....
DummyUrD *tumbleweed rolls by*
**Cricket sound**
Hey, this is a top notch dad-joke okay?!
Ha ha ha ha ha ha
Looks to me like a very inefficient method of launching speedboats.
Vanilla von Bismarck space borne go-fast boats, best way to smuggle cocaine across Kerbin.
Don't tell SB
He didn't open the video by saying hello I feel great disturbance in the force! the only thing worse would be if he forgot to say fly safe
And he had a reply to someone in this video saying he had had a hard few weeks.
these are my favorite kind of KSP videos. crazy idea, probably won't work, let's do it and if it doesn't work at all, still frickin hilarious
Early in the video: "Hullo I'm Scott Manley, and today we're recovering fairings!"
Late in the video: "I made a thing that spins!"
"Don't shoot fire stick in space canoe, cause explosive decompression!"
Instructions unclear got boat stuck in space!
"Well we could add little pilot seats and actually have crew trying to surf the fairings back through the atmosphere. So! That's what I'm doing!" *Maniacal laughter*
I think Scott has either turned into an evil overlord or toby turner. What do you guys think?
I think Elon Musk is watching Scott Manley for ideas.
plot twist - Musk just tentatively announces the first weird idea that comes to mind, waits for Scott to try it, and then follows his example.
Yeah he gets Scott Manley to do all that expensive engineering for him.
I recall a scifi movie from the 1970ies or perhaps the late 60ies called "Dark Star" I think the space craft breaks up in re-entry or breaks up via another standard means.
Anyhoover, one of the astronauts surf re-entry on a piece of debris from the broken up space craft. I think that is how the movie ends & you are only left to assume if he survives reentry & free fall.
"Hey, Talby! I've got a piece of debris. I think I've figured out a way!"
"listen Doolitle i think i ve caught a wave ,(benson Arizona playing), he vaporising in atmosphere... :) " i think that 70s movie called "dark star one" and the end of it is best thing i ve ever seen in space movies
Boaty McFairing was genius
like all lovers of the film Dark Star I was singing this:
"Benson, Arizona, blew warm wind through your hair
My body flies the galaxy, my heart longs to be there
Benson, Arizona, the same stars in the sky
But they seemed so much kinder when we watched them, you and I"
... for those not aware of the film, WHY NOT!? :)
You may as well spend your time teaching people Phenomonology.
Scott! I love coming home after college classes and watching your videos. Always do such a great job, and I really enjoy them until the end. Keep up the awesome work!
"I LIKE PLUMMETING!" -Scott Manley 2017
"Trying to re-enter" should be a Olympic discipline.
You know, Scott, you are starting to turn into Danny2462 with this kind of thing.
more like fairingception
Really, really like the format used for the video editing, build montage, and back to real-time commentary in flight!
How much do fairings cost that it would be worth recovering them? I was under the impression that they were basically well designed sheets of aluminum(or something similar)
+Stephen Simmons I hear about $5 million a pair & they take a long time to build.
Stephen Simmons. just stick an apropriate sized tin yard shed on the thing, keep the receipt tho...
Wow, so much has happened in 4 years
What mod is he using for the custom wing shapes and fairing shapes? I neeeeeed that!
Raph H procedural wings
B9 Procedural Wings
Voidsurfing - the extreme sport of the future.
4:28 how do you swap from the rocket to the faringboard thing instantly?
14:49 "totally controllable" I think we don't agree on definitions :)
"You'd be better off flying the box it came in."
Wait... You're going to attempt a Dark Star? I need to see this!
Now we need to have Scott having an existential argument with a chatbot attached to a bomb.
"Teach it Phenomenology Doolittle..."
5:20 Yes, Scott, "crude" is definitely a word that springs to mind. :)
i once had a gull kited out with some weapons and engines on the floats, then i seperated the cockpit from the rest of the plane with full engine power and it just did a few backflips and landed nicely in the water, not a single part missing. it was beatigull
Scott, this is incredible. Great idea.
putting a crew in the fairing.....they shouldn't let you in charge of missions IRL HAHA
Khaled Almunla. i actually have wondered if such a thing was possible. presumably with enough surface area for a given mass you could bring reentry heat down enough for non specialized materials to survive.
IIRC, it was the force of the ejection seat pushing down on the nose of the aircraft which caused the Cornfield Bomber to regain stability.
*Space -X not happy with their recent recoverable explosive bolts achivement has agreed to invent recoverable exaust fumes*
0:56 "Severe Tire Damage"?
Yes, this is exactly what I hear playing whenever I walk into a Les Schwab...
“Benson Arizona, blew warm wind through your hair,
My body flies the galaxy, my heart longs to be there…”
"Then things got silly." Famous Jeb quotes...
I've enjoyed your other videos but that was pure gold.
"you guys do remember bobby mcferrin? nuh?"
[mouthly instruments song about it]
I like "Boaty McFairing".
I did try something like the fairing recovery a couple of years ago..might try it again since the game is more advanced now
0:57 Scott has some sick beats.
to be fair, Lord of the Rings fans are hyped on these fairings.
No way, that surfing off the stairs thing is totally blasphemous.
What's With The No Galileo Conquest?
Also 2:49
SpaceX should totally put control surfaces and stuff on its fairings... Currently they're probably going to use steerable parachutes, but this fairing-as-a-glider thing looks like way more fun if we can make it work. :P
Why did you build this in the SPH, not in the VAB ?
Boaty McBoatface. Or Fairy McFairingface.
Those are the only legal names :P
17:00 that is majestic.
Cornfield bomber story is one of my favs of aviation.
Scott proves that flying boats is a pretty fair option for space-travel... XD
That so called Cornfield Bomber was not even actually bomber it was Convair F-106A Delta Dart and its bit werid id plane enters flat spin but makes belly landing without pilot and almost no damage at all.
MythicFrost, the early F-106's had very bad stall characteristics and the sudden force exerted by the ejection seat firing pushed the nose in such a way as to nullify the effects of the flat spin. With the CG re-balanced the aircraft, with some slight nose up trim, began level flight once more and continued on until it landed in a WHEAT FIELD and subsequently ran out of fuel. I guess "Wheat Field Fighter" doesn't sound as great though.
I have a challenge for you, create a plane with detachable wings, bring it into orbit, then bring it down and re-attach some wings
Remind me of John Carpenter's Dark Star's ending
Which reminded me of Bradbury, Ray, Kaleidoscope
Congrats, you've re-invented the lifting body.
Atmospheric boat!
Reentry surfing was a thing is some anime I watched years ago.
Reminds me of the hacky boats people modded into Microsoft Flight Sim 2004. If you went max speed and hit a bump in the water just right (yes, bump in the water... not a wave, mind you), you could eke a few m/s of upward speed and fly the boat around. I got quite adept at landing cigarette boats at big airports.
Was anyone else reminded of Zefram Cochrane's Pheonix rocket when they first saw Scott's ship?
No link to the full video of the stream? WHAT IS THIS MADNESS
A variation of this has been "done" before by Flash Gordon sometime in the late 1950's or early 1960's. He & another, probably Dale Arden were in an enclosed cylinder which had a bulkhead with a hatch at each end where there was a hemisphere end cap. They got in & he used his ray gun to melt the metal so that that enclosed end would separate & descend into the atmosphere. As I remember there was a problem with standing/laying on a surface that was getting real hot. I don't know how they landed but there were around for next week's comics.
That's the song I used on my Cities:Skylines Let's Play. Great tune.
boaty mc fairing
YAAS
Well, the development of space-boats is going into some roughly right direction, I see.
Are fairings really so valuable that recovering them is economically viable? It just seems like that's going a bit too far...
Chris Maillet falcon 9's are $5 million each so yeah there definitely worth trying to recover
I see now, thanks. That is worth recovering, or developing cheaper fairings. ;)
It turned out to indeed, not be worth it
Next thing you know, SpaceX says this is how they will land thrusters.
When my friends ask what Kerbal space program is, I will show them that clip of the helicopter consisting of two pieces of shattered wing, a fuel tank, and a magical floating rogue jet engine.
When you're running out of things to post, you start surfing on fairings.
Good video as usual though.
How are you switching so seamlessly between craft? Is that a mod because I didn't think there was a hotkey for that.
On the whole "reusable fairings" issue, would it be practical for SpaceX to have fairings that stayed attached to the rocket stage and unfolded like the Apollo/Saturn interstage?
That single panel kinda looked like a wheel rolling down the hill. So, Scott, you have not only inventen monocopter, you invented a square piloted wheel.
Amazing that it hit the island at all.
Bobby McFerrin, Don't Worry Be Happy. After watching hundreds of your videos I finally know what you are talking about!
Hey Scott, take a look at "take command" it's a mod that allows you to place kerbals in command seats before launch.
What mod do u use for the clouds??
Is there a link to the spacex fairing thing?
if this works you know this will be a sport of the future.
Does Scott have a tutorial for prioritizing fuel tanks? If not please teach me oh great one!
Real talk -
Why not just have the fairings hinge apart to let the payload out, and then close back up and remain attached to the second stage? Like opening from /\ to \_/ and then closing?
Adds extra mass to 2nd stage which means less dV, rockets ditch fairings as soon as possible for mass reasons.
I suspected as much. although I'm curious if the extra weight could be worth it, like the weight of legs and grid fins on the booster.
What's the procedural part mod he's using?the one that puts the menu at the top left
Kinda funny watching this a few days after SpaceX first caught both faring halves
This is a nice space fairing boat
do you have a mod list. the no helmet kerbals seem interesting
yes. because i really wanted to know what the mod list to gallileo conquest.
i havn't found the current streams modlist and i was asking for that one. or in a way you would understand:
lmgtfy.com/?q=don%27t+be+a+douchebag
johnetes you can take those off in stock
dosmastrify the helmets?
If Space X is willing, I'll volunteer to be a fairing test pilot.
I think fairing re-entry is better suited for humans then Kerbals as we can use our limbs to help put additional mass on different points to help stabilize it.
Though I will also need a cowboy hat, so I can recreate the scene from the ending of the movie "Dr. Strangelove or How I learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb"
Oh and definitely a parachute for the fairing, and preferably one for me as well.
So, we have firmly established that Scott has *way* too much time on his hands.
He did something like this a few years ago but he used something shaped like a surfboard when infinity glide was a thing.
This is how kerbals confirm fairing deployment lol
those magnificent men and their flying machines...
It's like SpaceX, but stupid not only when you first day it, but also when you think about it
What is your favorite part of the Rocket?, In engineering, flying etc.
When the fairing becomes the payload
So I was just playing KSP and saw the loading message "Flying Safe"... how late am I to the Scott Manley makes it into KSP party am I?
you should have some sort of inverted wing forward of the CG to pull the front of the fairing down and it should be more controllable. you should also look at more like a lifting body.
what wing mod is that? thats not proc dynamics...
TheToric B9 Pwings
This still makes me think of the Mythbusters episode with the escape ramp parachute.. :D
Noah's Ark got an upgrade...
I like how all your videos start out so serious with a concept then you just start screwing around lol
Is this with FAR?