as a Walmart sporting goods associate who sells these guns on a regular basis. I love to see what people come up with on how to improve a product. overall I think it was very interesting and made a good product an even better product. I will be tuning in to your videos more often. keep up the good work.
It's supposed to be a "survival shotgun". By removing the choke, he took a firearm that would have been good out to 40 yards for say rabbits, quail, doves, squirrel, turkey(etc) and made it into a 20 yard gun. Why do all you folks think a 20 inch barrel is so awesome, when our ancestors had much longer guns back in the old days. It was a 28 inch barrel, so he saved a whole 8 inches and lost distance of shooting. It already came with a Modified choke, so it would have been accurate with slugs and 00 buck.
Midland is already making a 20 inch barreled shotgun WITH a choke for a few dollars more. I agree with you, he took a perfectly working shotgun that was good for at least 40 yards and turned it into a 20 yard "mule kicker".
That trigger guard did not blue because it is aluminum, and you can only blue steel. Also, the loop you have that holds the gun folded is not a good idea, cause you have both contact points touching, which will cause a galvanic reaction. You must put a finish on at least one surface so the bare metal does not actually touch each other. A galvanic reaction is when you take two different types of bare metal and put them together. It will slowly and even sometimes quickly cause one or both metals to corrode. There must be something between those bare metals that stop them from touching. That is why all the parts of a gun will usually be coated in some type of a finish, because it stops the different types of metals from touching. Usually guns that do not have a finish are all using the same type of metal, so they do not need a finish, or they will only have a finish on the metals that are of a different type. The finish is not actually there to make the gun look cool, it is there to stop galvanic reactions. You cannot just take a bare piece of aluminum and a bare piece of steel and put them together, cause it will cause a galvanic reaction, so you must put a finish on at least one of the metals so they do not actually touch. You could have just figured out why the trigger guard did not blue by simply removing it and touching it with a magnet, cause the magnet would not have stuck to it, and would have stuck to the rest of the gun. The parts that the magnet stick to can be blued, but the parts that are not magnetic cannot be blued. You would have to paint the trigger guard or Anodize or plate it. Also, not all types of steel can be blued. Most stainless steel is not magnetic and cannot be blued. Basically the cheaper the stainless the more magnetic it is, which means the more it will rust. Cheap stainless has less nickel, and expensive stainless has lots of nickel in it which stops it from rusting. Blueing is just a form of rust, which is why you cannot blue metals like aluminum or expensive stainless steel, cause those metals have protection against rust.
I have one of these and have not done any woodworking as you have. I cut the barrel to 18 3/4". Installed Williams Universal Slugger Shotgun Fire Sights, Uncle Mike's sling studs, 550 Paracord sling, 8 round shell holder & Limbsaver butt pad (essential for me!) My GF sewed up a custom sleeve from a blue jeans pant leg that conceals the gun and a few survival items. I adjusted the hammer spring and cleaned/lubed the trigger mechanism. When budget allows I will be getting a few Pathfinder rifled adaptors, but each one costs as much as the shot gun. It's definitely a fun gun to mod & experiment with. Thanks for making this video.
absolutely love this build. actually went out to go find the hatfield at my local walmart to find the gun and replicate yours. so far I'm gonna add a 17hmr rifled adapter for small game hunting to go along in the compartment in the stock.
Some added possibilities for that firearm include a side saddle with extra rounds. Perhaps the added weight would help mitigate recoil some. You might also consider chamber inserts to go with the gun. As for the butt stock pocket, I'd put some storm roof matches, some bacitracin infused cotton balls, and some sort of flint of magnesium fire starting capability. What else? A little baggie with some gun lube in it.
Q quick thought on using the stock as storage. Cut a small piece of sheetmetal into a cover and mount it on the butt of the stock. Now drill or cut the buttplate so you can slide the metal cover over the hole so you can store supplies inside the stock with a handy access door. I have a 410 I fixed in a similar fashion but I drilled an extra hole for extra storage. Great ideas and great video. Have a great day and keep looking for that better tomorrow.
Ur nearly finished project is pretty cool, and definitely compact. Can't go wrong with the $99 initial investment, even if the mods had gone badly. For those who are technically challenged, or don't have time to do mod's, the Iver Johnson IJ70020SY-18 is a nice compact fold-down youth 20ga with an 18" full choke barrel. It takes up to 3" shells and has a blade front sight. MSRP $165.
I bought a .410 model today. The trigger was very hard and my wife could not cock it. I found a link where you can put washers under the leaf spring after removing the butt stock and it is very smooth now. Just find it on You Tube and it will explain it better than me. Before the trigger must have been 20 pounds, ??? but now like other shotguns. Maybe 4-5 pounds. 5 minute easy fix.
You can do the same just by unscrewing that leaf spring screw a little bit and loctiting it in place. I knocked mine down from 10+ to 5ish as well. Super easy mod.
Great job. I have a similar project in the works based on an ATI Nomad 12ga but a little more "tacticool" and includes adapters for multiple calibers from .22LR to .44mag and working on adding some legit rifle caliber barrel sleeves if/when they are in stock.
I suggest drilling recoil reduction vent holes about and inch back from the muzzle (like the holes in a moss berg barrel). The muzzle brake effect reduces recoil and muzzle jump. I put "Limbsaver" recoil pads on my guns that need them.
You have spent your spare time usefully! Thanks ! Probably a metal folding stock would make it an assault rifle at least in California and a few people would have lost some teeth trying to use it
Very nice outcome. Pretty. One of the things I do is drill an appropriate sized hole to glue a button compass into the pistol stock. Plus any wood stock on any of my guns (with the exception of surplus weapons) will get a compartment hole. The most important item in the compartment is a small self-sealing cylindrical lighter with some cotton. Nice job.
Very resourceful. Necessity truly is the mother of invention. If you haven't already done so, you might consider contacting the manufacturer so they are aware of the potential of this model with respect to manufacturing future models. I would likely keep something in the buttstock hideaway maybe a shortened-modified boresnake cleaner, and might even consider one of those buttstock accessories for holding six shotshells. The tough choice is how many shotshells and in which varieties should be carried. If it is a survival shotgun then maybe a case that is compact but has storage enough for all the stuff you might need. As a young hunter I once encountered a huge pile of recent scat and only had 6's and 7-1/2's on me for hunting birds after which I always carried a few slugs for just-in-case. Hauser Hooch has a good idea of a .22 LR adapter but then the law starts to get technical about ATF's point of view about modification. Great video, Thanks!
4WorldPeace2 luckily, the 19” barrel on this exceeds the 16” minimum length barrel for a rifle, so running rifled adapters are a-ok! I currently have it filled with adapters for 20 gauge, .410/.45LC, and .22lr. Lots of ammo scavenging options!
Very, very slick. Not that you need any more improvements, it's easy enough to install a button compass into the pistol grip. I like Stanley of London button compasses as they are air filled and not fluid filled-- they don't freeze up. Anyway it's easy to do. Take a 3/4" drill bit and drill down 1/4" on the bottom of the pistol grip (make sure to center it) and simply glue the compass into the recessed space. I do that to all my .22 rifles. Paracord around the stock (or bankline) gives you useful cordage. Your fit and finish of your shotgun is great.
You could sell those. Great project! I'd go with a fairly standard cleaning cit. (The pieces like patches, and piano wire also have other uses, of course.)
Get a pair of adapters '12 to 20' then get a'20 to 410' that fits inside the '12 to 20' adapter and stack them inside your stock you can shoot the 410 by stacking the two adapters in the breech removing the 410 adapter you will be able to shoot the 20 gauge. also p/u the 12 gauge muzzleloading adapter and put it in behind the first two adapters as a 3rd option in versatility. I have this setup in my H&R. I used paracord to fill in any additional space and keep the adapters from moving around in the hole.
I love this build. You ask for additional ideas? 🤔 Can you do additional storage holes in the stock? IF all you can get is the one, then add a .22s/l/lr adapter. IF you can do a secend, then add a 410/.44mag adapter. IF you can get a 3rd, add a .223rem/556 THEN ADD a 12gage bandolier sling for normal shells (slugs/#1buck/#4shot) AND a stock sleeve, (5, 12g loops) for a 12g signal flair, a 12g&20g match case, a lockback (for skinning small game), a small maglight, And a boresnake
Lots of suggestions here to stuff all kinds of survival stuff in the stock... Frankly that compartment is so small that the best thing to stick in there would just be extra shells and maybe a chamber converter. Then you have all your 'gun and ammo' in one package.
I am actually going to consider building where myself I work at a gun shop so I'm able to get this stuff pretty easy thank you so much for the idea and such a wonderful video!
Awesome budget build and above all very useful. I admire the challenge of it being an existing product that your ideas improved on, and is actually easy to duplicate. Thanks for the inspiration. Your new subscriber!
I got the 410 and the 12 gauge. A cheap, reliable gun that can fold up, take a beating and still work? It's perfect for emergency survival. A good thing to store in there would be oil or whatever you need for maintenance. If you've got a proper survival kit, your fishing line and everything else can store in the bag. But a bottle of oil could get crushed unless it's protected inside something solid. A gauge or caliber adapter would be good too, but only if you think you'll need to scavenge. Scavenging is less likely to be necessary in a short emergency (because you want to find civilization to be rescued), but more likely in a long term disaster (where if you do find civilization, don't expect any help).
I got the 20ga and cut it down to 19.5" and took it to the shotgun range. I didn't have any paper to pattern the gun but did have my electric trap thrower. The shotgun performed much better then I thought it would with an open choke. I had no trouble hitting clays out to 20 yards but after that it got sketchy. I was able to hit clays starting from low gun with the hammer down. I was afraid the clay would be out of range before I could cock and shoulder the gun but I had no trouble getting hits. Next I'll be shortening the stock and add a slip-on recoil pad.
The buttstock is easy:: a 5-6 inch barrel insert for .357 (.38 special) and .22 lr. Good for anything in North America up to grizzly. For the grizzy you could use 12 ga. slugs and Nikes.
The only upgrades I would add to this is, have the barrel threaded for choke tubes (I prefer Remington style because they are more commonly found), have the chamber reamed out to 3.5", and add an inline muzzleloading chamber adapter.
I wouldn't want the barrel to get magnetized and attract debris. no just sounds like an invitation for having metal shavings or something as a bore obstruction
You are correct, it did turn out quite nice. You've made some neat improvements and I thank you for sharing. I wonder if Hatfield firearms is paying attention??? You know with a long drill bit you could make another hole in the stock, add another rubber plug and carry twice as much in the stock. or but as you call it. Just an idea.
Excellent improvements! Hatfield should offer a model with similar improvements. I'd buy one. Wish the Walmarts here in anti-gun Hawai'i sold firearms. There is a guy on Ebay who threads barrels for choke tubes for $60. The (pardon the expression) "butt hole" would be a perfect place to store additional choke tubes. Come on Hatfield, make a model that bushcrafters can use straight from the box! Come on Walmart, start selling guns in Hawai'i! 8-)
Really sweet job. Kinda funky in it's original guise. The barrel is way too long and the excessive fold when loading/unloading takes some getting used to. Also I prefer an ejector to an extractor. No shit man, a 12 ga without a recoil pad ain't fun. This gun shoulda had a pad. I like top breaks and have a Rossi single shot in .410 and love shooting it. As I'm nearly 70 with three eye surgeries, I tend to shy away from 12/20 gauge guns. I have an 870P (12 ga) with wood stocks purchased in 1981. It had the deer/slug rifle sight 20" barrel but I swapped for a 28" vent rib and Simmons scope. Eventually got the barrel cut to a hair over 19" and added an elastic shell holder. It does have a good 1" recoil pad. However it is a bit much for me these days. Nice video and good work. Enjoy your 12 ga while you're young my friend.
After seeing someone put a little emergency kit under the buttplate and in small compartments in the forearm, I used my Dremel tool with a thin cutoff wheel to convert the forearm and butt screws from Phillips to slotted, for easier access.
It's funny how individuals can come up with solutions to factory produced issues. I personally would probably pay more to get the end result from the factory if they did the extra steps ...it doesn't have to be wood, it can be molded plastic....thanks for your ingenuity
Good video. It looks nice. I just got this gun and i want to make it sjorter and put different sights on it. That compartment hole in the stock is awesome too. You can out your weed in there.
Looks like it would make a good "hall huntin" gun too. Keep it beside the bed and use it for mid-nite hall huntin, when somebody breaks in the back door.
Very nice upgrade - That wood finish is nice! An alternate option for folks less mechanically inclined is the Hunt Group SS12. It's a 20" barrel 12 gauge with black polymer furniture that already folds down completely. It also has a hollow buttstock for more storage. They're up for bid on Gunbroker.com all the time and I recently got one for $50 + $20 shipping & $20 FFL. I also ordered the Short Lane adapter set (20 gauge, .410, 45 & .22lr). I just need to upgrade the bead sight to fiber optic & add a side saddle. Total investment should be about $150 plus ammo.
Good job. Plz get rid of the locking wire and use strong magnet instead. Usually it will be folded inside a bag or something. Magnet will do the job n faster to deploy.Thanks for sharing the information
I think it turned out great. And it's not like you chopped and hacked on a collectible gun that isn't made anymore anyway. I saw someone who used a router to carve a recess in their shotgun stock to fit an altoids tin and held it in place with an elastic shell cuff.
Batteries go in the butt. They attach to the flashlight/laser pointer on the side of the barrel. You also need a bayonett and a knife in the butt below the batteries. Unless you put the batteries in the grip because less distance.
Great work. Would make a great option for the sorts of people who like to bury guns in pvc tubes for a rainy day. Try putting the hook under some sort of spring tension so it stays flush with the stock rather than dangling down. Also one of those cheap shell carriers that slip over the stock, and add a sling. Also maybe a recoil pad. And you've got a pretty perfect cheap gun.
Thank you so much for doing this video.I have a whole channel dedicated to survival on a budget. The reason being because I am pretty much flat broke. It seems like the shotgun may be a good idea for me.
Finnish military gunstock finish: 1/3 linseed oil, 1/3 turpentine, 1/3 beeswax. Apply, let set for a few hours, rub off excess with a coarse cloth. Repeat as desired.
I absolutely love the shotgun and want one for myself. Trying to get one but no Walmart around me has one. When it does I will try to duplicate your great gun. Thank you.
This is exactly what I want to do to mine except I'll make the barrel 22 or 23 inches and use a leather buckle strap to keep the barrel from reopening and held in place with some punch wood tacks on the butt stock
hit the 7 c's of survival that you can Cordage- rope para cord, fishing line or something of the sorts Candle- Matches, a small flashlight of sorts, something that makes light Cup- maybe a small pill bottle like thing to store this in? Cleansing- Wet wipes and/or iodine tablets. depending on your terrain and hygiene needs Cover- probably can't hit this one, but usually a warming layer or poncho. maybe one of those trashbag looking ponchos that are 99 cents, being budget minded Cutting tool- one of those small utility knifes should work great. if not a razor blade you would usually use in a larger utility knife and some tape to make a makeshift holding point Canteen- unlikely you can hit this one i know this is late but i'd like to see an attempt on it
How about a bore snake and adapters for other types of ammo in the butt? You might even have enough room for a flint and steel or a ferro rod in there too. Give it a sling with all sorts of ammo for the adapters and a butt pad that can hold multiple types of ammo and you have a really great survival shotgun!
Get a Short Lane 12 gauge to 22LR Rifled Zombie Adapter to go into the butt. It's like getting an extra gun for $40 more and you can take small game without shredding your dinner. There is a lot of room in the bottom of the stock to drill some holes for a few shotgun shells and a half dozen .22s. You could use a Velcro strip to hold the ammo in place. If the 12 gauge recoil is to hefty for you, Hatfield makes a single shot .410 version.
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You should put the Short Lane stack and Pak caliber kit in the butt stock it makes it so you can shoot 20ga 410 45 long colt and 22lr long and short out of your 12 ga and it all stacks onto itself making the same size as a 12ga shell
Just for gets and shiggles, try the new Federal short shells. 1 oz slugs and #4 buck are available. The 4 buck is 15 pellet, velocities about 1250 for either.
I wonder how they compare to the Aguila ones. I feed my Shockwave build the Agula #4/#1 buckshot blend shells and I can't speak highly of them enough. Superb ammo in a tiny little form factor, and I can run 8 shells in my 14" Mossberg.
@@booliganshootingsports The empty shell is the same length, but they use a roll crimp, so the final package is near 1/4 inch longer for the Federal, and the Federal will feed in Mossberg and Remington pumps without an adapter. At least mine. The Aguila won't for me.
as a Walmart sporting goods associate who sells these guns on a regular basis. I love to see what people come up with on how to improve a product. overall I think it was very interesting and made a good product an even better product. I will be tuning in to your videos more often. keep up the good work.
Thanks for the feedback!
This project ruined the gun. If a choke was added, it would have been fine.
It's supposed to be a "survival shotgun". By removing the choke, he took a firearm that would have been good out to 40 yards for say rabbits, quail, doves, squirrel, turkey(etc) and made it into a 20 yard gun. Why do all you folks think a 20 inch barrel is so awesome, when our ancestors had much longer guns back in the old days. It was a 28 inch barrel, so he saved a whole 8 inches and lost distance of shooting. It already came with a Modified choke, so it would have been accurate with slugs and 00 buck.
Midland is already making a 20 inch barreled shotgun WITH a choke for a few dollars more. I agree with you, he took a perfectly working shotgun that was good for at least 40 yards and turned it into a 20 yard "mule kicker".
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That trigger guard did not blue because it is aluminum, and you can only blue steel. Also, the loop you have that holds the gun folded is not a good idea, cause you have both contact points touching, which will cause a galvanic reaction. You must put a finish on at least one surface so the bare metal does not actually touch each other. A galvanic reaction is when you take two different types of bare metal and put them together. It will slowly and even sometimes quickly cause one or both metals to corrode. There must be something between those bare metals that stop them from touching. That is why all the parts of a gun will usually be coated in some type of a finish, because it stops the different types of metals from touching. Usually guns that do not have a finish are all using the same type of metal, so they do not need a finish, or they will only have a finish on the metals that are of a different type. The finish is not actually there to make the gun look cool, it is there to stop galvanic reactions. You cannot just take a bare piece of aluminum and a bare piece of steel and put them together, cause it will cause a galvanic reaction, so you must put a finish on at least one of the metals so they do not actually touch. You could have just figured out why the trigger guard did not blue by simply removing it and touching it with a magnet, cause the magnet would not have stuck to it, and would have stuck to the rest of the gun. The parts that the magnet stick to can be blued, but the parts that are not magnetic cannot be blued. You would have to paint the trigger guard or Anodize or plate it. Also, not all types of steel can be blued. Most stainless steel is not magnetic and cannot be blued. Basically the cheaper the stainless the more magnetic it is, which means the more it will rust. Cheap stainless has less nickel, and expensive stainless has lots of nickel in it which stops it from rusting. Blueing is just a form of rust, which is why you cannot blue metals like aluminum or expensive stainless steel, cause those metals have protection against rust.
"I've got the option to store some survival essentials in the butt."
Me too, dude.
I have one of these and have not done any woodworking as you have. I cut the barrel to 18 3/4". Installed Williams Universal Slugger Shotgun Fire Sights, Uncle Mike's sling studs, 550 Paracord sling, 8 round shell holder & Limbsaver butt pad (essential for me!) My GF sewed up a custom sleeve from a blue jeans pant leg that conceals the gun and a few survival items. I adjusted the hammer spring and cleaned/lubed the trigger mechanism. When budget allows I will be getting a few Pathfinder rifled adaptors, but each one costs as much as the shot gun. It's definitely a fun gun to mod & experiment with. Thanks for making this video.
gone rydin Don't buy pathfinder junk, it's way overpriced. Look on eBay for better deals, you could get several for the cost of 1 pathfinder
Chiappa makes 7in rifled adapters for half the price of the pathfinders
Great example of Home gunsmithing! Making your gun better by making it fit the way you use it. Good job!
absolutely love this build. actually went out to go find the hatfield at my local walmart to find the gun and replicate yours. so far I'm gonna add a 17hmr rifled adapter for small game hunting to go along in the compartment in the stock.
You did a great job on the shotgun. I would suggest a 22LR chamber adapter for the stock.
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Some added possibilities for that firearm include a side saddle with extra rounds. Perhaps the added weight would help mitigate recoil some. You might also consider chamber inserts to go with the gun. As for the butt stock pocket, I'd put some storm roof matches, some bacitracin infused cotton balls, and some sort of flint of magnesium fire starting capability. What else? A little baggie with some gun lube in it.
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Put lube in the butt?
a swiss army knife and flint
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Q quick thought on using the stock as storage. Cut a small piece of sheetmetal into a cover and mount it on the butt of the stock. Now drill or cut the buttplate so you can slide the metal cover over the hole so you can store supplies inside the stock with a handy access door. I have
a 410 I fixed in a similar fashion but I drilled an extra hole for extra storage. Great ideas and great video. Have a great day and keep looking for that better tomorrow.
Ur nearly finished project is pretty cool, and definitely compact. Can't go wrong with the $99 initial investment, even if the mods had gone badly. For those who are technically challenged, or don't have time to do mod's, the Iver Johnson IJ70020SY-18 is a nice compact fold-down youth 20ga with an 18" full choke barrel. It takes up to 3" shells and has a blade front sight. MSRP $165.
out of all the mod videos of this little shotgun. i think yours looks the best. job well done
I like the modifications, you managed to turn it into my truck gun! An ATI Nomad, with sling, larger compartment in the butt stock, and recoil pad!
I bought a .410 model today. The trigger was very hard and my wife could not cock it. I found a link where you can put washers under the leaf spring after removing the butt stock and it is very smooth now. Just find it on You Tube and it will explain it better than me. Before the trigger must have been 20 pounds, ??? but now like other shotguns. Maybe 4-5 pounds. 5 minute easy fix.
You can do the same just by unscrewing that leaf spring screw a little bit and loctiting it in place. I knocked mine down from 10+ to 5ish as well. Super easy mod.
I did that on mine and went too far! I took it to the range Sunday and it would not fire. I have to turn that screw back in a turn or two.
Gun adapters just posted about how good their adapters work with the Hatfield, so I posted your vid to their post.
Great job. I have a similar project in the works based on an ATI Nomad 12ga but a little more "tacticool" and includes adapters for multiple calibers from .22LR to .44mag and working on adding some legit rifle caliber barrel sleeves if/when they are in stock.
I suggest drilling recoil reduction vent holes about and inch back from the muzzle (like the holes in a moss berg barrel). The muzzle brake effect reduces recoil and muzzle jump. I put "Limbsaver" recoil pads on my guns that need them.
You have spent your spare time usefully! Thanks ! Probably a metal folding stock would make it an assault rifle at least in California and a few people would have lost some teeth trying to use it
Very nice outcome. Pretty. One of the things I do is drill an appropriate sized hole to glue a button compass into the pistol stock. Plus any wood stock on any of my guns (with the exception of surplus weapons) will get a compartment hole. The most important item in the compartment is a small self-sealing cylindrical lighter with some cotton. Nice job.
THIS is EXACTLY what I have been wanting to do with my same shot gun!! Awesome man, thank you!
I ended up doing this with my 20 gauge version ( with a 6" deep hole in the stock) it fits great into my glove box of my little honda.
Nicholas Borges Haha are you joking?
Very resourceful. Necessity truly is the mother of invention. If you haven't already done so, you might consider contacting the manufacturer so they are aware of the potential of this model with respect to manufacturing future models.
I would likely keep something in the buttstock hideaway maybe a shortened-modified boresnake cleaner, and might even consider one of those buttstock accessories for holding six shotshells. The tough choice is how many shotshells and in which varieties should be carried. If it is a survival shotgun then maybe a case that is compact but has storage enough for all the stuff you might need. As a young hunter I once encountered a huge pile of recent scat and only had 6's and 7-1/2's on me for hunting birds after which I always carried a few slugs for just-in-case.
Hauser Hooch has a good idea of a .22 LR adapter but then the law starts to get technical about ATF's point of view about modification.
Great video, Thanks!
4WorldPeace2 luckily, the 19” barrel on this exceeds the 16” minimum length barrel for a rifle, so running rifled adapters are a-ok! I currently have it filled with adapters for 20 gauge, .410/.45LC, and .22lr. Lots of ammo scavenging options!
Definitely going to do this for ships and giggles. Good winter project. I'm a bored retired old guy in need of a project.
I looked at one of those at Walmart last week. I liked it and have researched further.
I'm sold now. I'm buying one next week.
They've become a bit hard to find lately, so if you see one for a good price, definitely snag it!
Very, very slick. Not that you need any more improvements, it's easy enough to install a button compass into the pistol grip. I like Stanley of London button compasses as they are air filled and not fluid filled-- they don't freeze up. Anyway it's easy to do. Take a 3/4" drill bit and drill down 1/4" on the bottom of the pistol grip (make sure to center it) and simply glue the compass into the recessed space. I do that to all my .22 rifles. Paracord around the stock (or bankline) gives you useful cordage. Your fit and finish of your shotgun is great.
Very good looking finished product. The refinished wood looks better than the factory finish.
Excellent job!!! Love it. Try a little bees wax in your linseed oil. It will make the water bead and run off.
You could sell those. Great project! I'd go with a fairly standard cleaning cit. (The pieces like patches, and piano wire also have other uses, of course.)
"I've got the ability to store survival essentials in the butt"
Its nature's pocket
@@ArdentFrog a prison pocket.
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Daaaaaaaamn.
I suspected as much, seemed a touch lilac..
Get a pair of adapters '12 to 20' then get a'20 to 410' that fits inside the '12 to 20' adapter and stack them inside your stock you can shoot the 410 by stacking the two adapters in the breech removing the 410 adapter you will be able to shoot the 20 gauge. also p/u the 12 gauge muzzleloading adapter and put it in behind the first two adapters as a 3rd option in versatility. I have this setup in my H&R. I used paracord to fill in any additional space and keep the adapters from moving around in the hole.
M Cuevas what company has these adapters??? Thanks
www.gunadapters.com/
I love this build.
You ask for additional ideas?
🤔 Can you do additional storage holes in the stock?
IF all you can get is the one, then add a .22s/l/lr adapter.
IF you can do a secend, then add a 410/.44mag adapter.
IF you can get a 3rd, add a .223rem/556
THEN ADD a 12gage bandolier sling for normal shells (slugs/#1buck/#4shot)
AND a stock sleeve, (5, 12g loops) for
a 12g signal flair,
a 12g&20g match case,
a lockback (for skinning small game),
a small maglight,
And a boresnake
Lots of suggestions here to stuff all kinds of survival stuff in the stock... Frankly that compartment is so small that the best thing to stick in there would just be extra shells and maybe a chamber converter. Then you have all your 'gun and ammo' in one package.
I think this is excellent , the best no BS gun mod on utube.
I am actually going to consider building where myself I work at a gun shop so I'm able to get this stuff pretty easy thank you so much for the idea and such a wonderful video!
Enjoy the build, it’s very simple to do but results in a great gun.
Very well done. You did a great job with the stock. The trigger guard is aluminum, that's why the quick blue didn't work.
Yeah, I'm trying some "aluminum black" next before moving on to paint.
Excellent for a Survival Cache gun. Stowable, packable, economical, and versatile.
Exactly. Keep it oiled up to prevent rust, and store it somewhere where hopefully you'll never need it.
Awesome budget build and above all very useful. I admire the challenge of it being an existing product that your ideas improved on, and is actually easy to duplicate. Thanks for the inspiration. Your new subscriber!
Nice job on the project. It makes me wonder why the factory doesn't make the weapon able to fold that far down.
I finally got around to getting one of these shotguns, in the ATI Nomad flavor. Its going to be a fun project.
all of your variants of this one gun are so awesome and so different!
It’s a really fun blank canvas
Looks like a good survival gun. Especially if you're gonna backpack it. Slip a shotgun shell holder over the stock and you're good to go.
Great job I love what you've done with the gun and with the shotgun the possibilities are endless on survival stuff
Awesome kiss engineering. Good job
I got the 410 and the 12 gauge. A cheap, reliable gun that can fold up, take a beating and still work? It's perfect for emergency survival. A good thing to store in there would be oil or whatever you need for maintenance. If you've got a proper survival kit, your fishing line and everything else can store in the bag. But a bottle of oil could get crushed unless it's protected inside something solid. A gauge or caliber adapter would be good too, but only if you think you'll need to scavenge. Scavenging is less likely to be necessary in a short emergency (because you want to find civilization to be rescued), but more likely in a long term disaster (where if you do find civilization, don't expect any help).
You did a great job on the shotgun.
I’m in Canada but gotta get my hands on one of these!
Looks like a great project and the gun looks great too (Dave Canterberry would be proud).
I am comment again , I watch this video 17 times . & So far this is the 'BEST Survival Shotgun Project" On UA-cam .
I've done most of the mods you did, now I want a full length cartridge adapter chambered for a.410, but rifled for 460S&W, 454 Casul, and a 45 Colt!
I got the 20ga and cut it down to 19.5" and took it to the shotgun range. I didn't have any paper to pattern the gun but did have my electric trap thrower. The shotgun performed much better then I thought it would with an open choke. I had no trouble hitting clays out to 20 yards but after that it got sketchy. I was able to hit clays starting from low gun with the hammer down. I was afraid the clay would be out of range before I could cock and shoulder the gun but I had no trouble getting hits. Next I'll be shortening the stock and add a slip-on recoil pad.
Don't let the haters get to you looks great
nice build on the shot gun. It seems you have more room in the butt stock for one more storage boring without compromising it's strength. Nice work.
Good luck finding one today!!
You can find them everywhere. My local Walmarts still stock them and you can find them for sale all over online.
I could see this as a great first shot bed-side, home protection weapon, alongside your sidearm.
The buttstock is easy:: a 5-6 inch barrel insert for .357 (.38 special) and .22 lr. Good for anything in North America up to grizzly. For the grizzy you could use 12 ga. slugs and Nikes.
The only upgrades I would add to this is, have the barrel threaded for choke tubes (I prefer Remington style because they are more commonly found), have the chamber reamed out to 3.5", and add an inline muzzleloading chamber adapter.
You’re a far better man than I am if you can shoot a 3 1/2” shell,out of a 5 1/2 # shotgun.
@murphy4yt I would not plan on consistently shooting 3.5" shells, but, the utility to do that would be nice.
Remove that rubber thingy and use 2 earth magnets iso the bended welding iron to keep it close. would be cleaner look.
I wouldn't want the barrel to get magnetized and attract debris. no just sounds like an invitation for having metal shavings or something as a bore obstruction
You are correct, it did turn out quite nice. You've made some neat improvements and I thank you for sharing. I wonder if Hatfield firearms is paying attention???
You know with a long drill bit you could make another hole in the stock, add another rubber plug and carry twice as much in the stock. or but as you call it. Just an idea.
Nicely done. I really like the wire clip to hold it closed.
Thanks, it was a small touch, but I think it really tied the thing together (no pun intended)
Very practical setup. Well done Sir.
Excellent improvements! Hatfield should offer a model with similar improvements. I'd buy one. Wish the Walmarts here in anti-gun Hawai'i sold firearms. There is a guy on Ebay who threads barrels for choke tubes for $60. The (pardon the expression) "butt hole" would be a perfect place to store additional choke tubes. Come on Hatfield, make a model that bushcrafters can use straight from the box! Come on Walmart, start selling guns in Hawai'i! 8-)
Really sweet job. Kinda funky in it's original guise. The barrel is way too long and the excessive fold when loading/unloading takes some getting used to. Also I prefer an ejector to an extractor. No shit man, a 12 ga without a recoil pad ain't fun. This gun shoulda had a pad. I like top breaks and have a Rossi single shot in .410 and love shooting it. As I'm nearly 70 with three eye surgeries, I tend to shy away from 12/20 gauge guns.
I have an 870P (12 ga) with wood stocks purchased in 1981. It had the deer/slug rifle sight 20" barrel but I swapped for a 28" vent rib and Simmons scope. Eventually got the barrel cut to a hair over 19" and added an elastic shell holder. It does have a good 1" recoil pad. However it is a bit much for me these days. Nice video and good work. Enjoy your 12 ga while you're young my friend.
After seeing someone put a little emergency kit under the buttplate and in small compartments in the forearm, I used my Dremel tool with a thin cutoff wheel to convert the forearm and butt screws from Phillips to slotted, for easier access.
It's funny how individuals can come up with solutions to factory produced issues. I personally would probably pay more to get the end result from the factory if they did the extra steps ...it doesn't have to be wood, it can be molded plastic....thanks for your ingenuity
All you need now are the barrel inserts to use multiple cartridges like 12 gauge to 45-70 or 30-30 you get the idea if you have not done that yet
I store 20 gauge, .410 bore, 45 LC, and .22 LR inserts in the stock.
Good video. It looks nice. I just got this gun and i want to make it sjorter and put different sights on it. That compartment hole in the stock is awesome too. You can out your weed in there.
Looks like it would make a good "hall huntin" gun too. Keep it beside the bed and use it for mid-nite hall huntin, when somebody breaks in the back door.
Very nice upgrade - That wood finish is nice! An alternate option for folks less mechanically inclined is the Hunt Group SS12. It's a 20" barrel 12 gauge with black polymer furniture that already folds down completely. It also has a hollow buttstock for more storage.
They're up for bid on Gunbroker.com all the time and I recently got one for $50 + $20 shipping & $20 FFL. I also ordered the Short Lane adapter set (20 gauge, .410, 45 & .22lr). I just need to upgrade the bead sight to fiber optic & add a side saddle. Total investment should be about $150 plus ammo.
Is that shotgun you mention another Turkey built single shot?
Man that was Awesome!!! Really cool mods that make that little sucker shine,
I bought a 20 gauge today! I plan to do pretty much what you did. Hatfield or Walmart should pay you a commission on sales.
Good job. Plz get rid of the locking wire and use strong magnet instead. Usually it will be folded inside a bag or something. Magnet will do the job n faster to deploy.Thanks for sharing the information
I think it turned out great. And it's not like you chopped and hacked on a collectible gun that isn't made anymore anyway. I saw someone who used a router to carve a recess in their shotgun stock to fit an altoids tin and held it in place with an elastic shell cuff.
Batteries go in the butt. They attach to the flashlight/laser pointer on the side of the barrel. You also need a bayonett and a knife in the butt below the batteries. Unless you put the batteries in the grip because less distance.
Great Looking Finished Product...Nice Work......
I would buy that gun. Awesome work, sir.
There's nothing quite like the satisfaction you feel when you finish a project, having made it uniquely yours.
Great work. Would make a great option for the sorts of people who like to bury guns in pvc tubes for a rainy day.
Try putting the hook under some sort of spring tension so it stays flush with the stock rather than dangling down. Also one of those cheap shell carriers that slip over the stock, and add a sling. Also maybe a recoil pad. And you've got a pretty perfect cheap gun.
Awesome modifications! Great videos
Thank you so much for doing this video.I have a whole channel dedicated to survival on a budget. The reason being because I am pretty much flat broke. It seems like the shotgun may be a good idea for me.
Finnish military gunstock finish: 1/3 linseed oil, 1/3 turpentine, 1/3 beeswax. Apply, let set for a few hours, rub off excess with a coarse cloth. Repeat as desired.
came out better than I thought it would !
Have some clips attached on the side of the stock to hold some shells. Keep your "survival" necessities in the stock
Awesome job i like the concept of what you did
I absolutely love the shotgun and want one for myself. Trying to get one but no Walmart around me has one. When it does I will try to duplicate your great gun. Thank you.
Ducky Schulz I just bought the last one at my Walmart. Not sure they are going to get more but keep asking.
Good work on this thing. May I suggest drilling a 2nd storage hole. Hey, why not have more storage capacity?
This is exactly what I want to do to mine except I'll make the barrel 22 or 23 inches and use a leather buckle strap to keep the barrel from reopening and held in place with some punch wood tacks on the butt stock
"And then it's all closed up with this little rubber plug."
Me too, pal, me too.
Love the mods. Definitely look into the adapters. Those might cit into the shoulder stock cavity. Nice job.
Shane Hall I’ve got the adapters, check out the follow up vid on the channel.
hit the 7 c's of survival that you can
Cordage- rope para cord, fishing line or something of the sorts
Candle- Matches, a small flashlight of sorts, something that makes light
Cup- maybe a small pill bottle like thing to store this in?
Cleansing- Wet wipes and/or iodine tablets. depending on your terrain and hygiene needs
Cover- probably can't hit this one, but usually a warming layer or poncho. maybe one of those trashbag looking ponchos that are 99 cents, being budget minded
Cutting tool- one of those small utility knifes should work great. if not a razor blade you would usually use in a larger utility knife and some tape to make a makeshift holding point
Canteen- unlikely you can hit this one
i know this is late but i'd like to see an attempt on it
How about a bore snake and adapters for other types of ammo in the butt? You might even have enough room for a flint and steel or a ferro rod in there too. Give it a sling with all sorts of ammo for the adapters and a butt pad that can hold multiple types of ammo and you have a really great survival shotgun!
Get a Short Lane 12 gauge to 22LR Rifled Zombie Adapter to go into the butt. It's like getting an extra gun for $40 more and you can take small game without shredding your dinner. There is a lot of room in the bottom of the stock to drill some holes for a few shotgun shells and a half dozen .22s. You could use a Velcro strip to hold the ammo in place. If the 12 gauge recoil is to hefty for you, Hatfield makes a single shot .410 version.
99$? Thats crazy ...this shotty be worth 500 quid here in England on the streets.
WettyFap 84 you can get an old one for about £150
@@flatsurfaces1913 i know but most that price are usually sawed off or old as fuck haha
We have something you don't. ~Freedom.
@@ronlabe5487 but you can't cross a road without a light telling you ...
@@ronlabe5487 yes you have freedom, to die without healthcare and be screwed over by a corrupt president, politicians and multinationals. But yes you have guns, only good part about America.
Good job, well done.
Here IAM in 2020 and can't find a Hatfield 12 ga anywhere.i do alot of camping and I really want one.
Nice job. It looks good too. Just needs more coats of LS Oil.
Excellent results. The folding shotgun project is next on my list and I plan on copying your idea.
Great job! I would just and a shell carrier (soft type) from ebay under $10.
Yeah, I've got a velcro shell holder that I'm debating throwing on the side, along with a slip on butt pad.
You should put the Short Lane stack and Pak caliber kit in the butt stock it makes it so you can shoot 20ga 410 45 long colt and 22lr long and short out of your 12 ga and it all stacks onto itself making the same size as a 12ga shell
I would put a bore snake and some gun lube in the stock. It makes the most sense for that specific build. Other survival stuff can be in your pack.
Just for gets and shiggles, try the new Federal short shells. 1 oz slugs and #4 buck are available. The 4 buck is 15 pellet, velocities about 1250 for either.
I wonder how they compare to the Aguila ones. I feed my Shockwave build the Agula #4/#1 buckshot blend shells and I can't speak highly of them enough. Superb ammo in a tiny little form factor, and I can run 8 shells in my 14" Mossberg.
@@booliganshootingsports The empty shell is the same length, but they use a roll crimp, so the final package is near 1/4 inch longer for the Federal, and the Federal will feed in Mossberg and Remington pumps without an adapter. At least mine. The Aguila won't for me.
@@WilGolden Interesting. I run the adapter in my Mossberg since that's what I exclusively feed it.
You can put short lane adapters or a couple of shotguns shells.