Everyone talks about birth weight and weaning weight when they talk about their bulls. After 50 years of being around cattle and raising Angus and shorthorns. The first thing I look at when selecting a bull is temperament. I had a few crazy bulls and they passed it on to the calves but I switched to a mellow bull then raising cattle became so much more enjoyable. When getting your next bull, buy it from a farmer with easy going cattle. It’s unfortunate about your best calf. That’s a shame and couple grand missing from your bottom line 😢. Keep the faith and you did a good job with the corral and will serve you well for years.
I'm sorry for the loss of your beautiful calf. It may be part of life on a ranch, but that doesn't mean it's easy. Best wishes for a happy holiday season to you and your family.
Charolais are really difficult cattle to handle. We had a bull and a heifer from two shorthorn cows and they never birthed again. You can only breed charlolais to charloais I guess. They tore up the barn, knocked down rail fences and bullied the rest of the herd. A guy bought both of them one fall just to get the blond hides. Sad about the calf. Good video. Pax.
@@icebabysnocain I had a hundred head of Charolais and never had any issues! They were always a gentle breed for us! Young cattle are always testing the boundaries!
All animals fight for breeding purposes they don't normally end up dead when they don't have horns or antlers they usually just get their butt whipped he must have had an internal injury like you said but the bull did not outright kill him
@@johnrose9840 longtime cattle rancher, bulls durning breeding time are dangerous! I have seen many fight to the death! It is an animal’s natural instinct to get rid of the competition! It’s why wild animals will kill the offspring of others! Survival of the fittest!
On another note your a beeter welder then you think poor welds would have busted when them calf's put all that pressure on the sucker rod in the panel in that same spot . Those pens are holding up nicely you built.
@FarmandHammer scrap barn roof will work. Nothing that will flap in the wind. Just so they can't see through on at the last cut gate. Also good job and making tall, I have seen cattle jump a 6 ft fence.
Trailer is dark inside compared to the rest of the corral, dark holes are not where cow/calf wants to go, or even see it as a barrier. See if putting a light in there (ceiling) helps them understand it is where they can/should go.
You don't want to punish an animal for not understanding what you want. Also, the trailer is darker then anything around. Putting a light in there may work way better. Light - dark transitions are difficult for animals, making them less extreme helps with that. Cooperation works way better always then force, and yes that requires observation, patience and knowing how animals think.
@@BakangBigfish a cattle prod could make things worse, creat aggressive cattle, and cause them to overreact and hurt themselves! Floppy Flags work well…
Buying older, bred cows is one way to grow a herd. You are going to have to work harder to get a more uniform bunch of calves, but it looks like you are in this for the long haul, so that shouldn't be a problem. Losing a calf in such a stupid way sure does suck. We had a calf get down in a very small depression and couldn't get up. It was the day before we sold them!
Normally it will kill them quicker than 3 or 4 days. His front shoulder/leg was pretty clearly broken. Didn’t look like blackleg. I was worried about that on day one though
If you are talking about the one with horns, yes she is staying for now. She is a little too friendly for having those big horns but she raised a good calf.
Sometimes I get scared for you with those big bulls you be careful as you know that work is dangerous and you are out there alone most of the time or it appears you’re alone. That is sad about your calf I hate to see that. Keep up the good work Issac.
Thanks for the concern but I do try to be as careful as I can. And yes, I normally work out there alone and the cell service isn’t great so I’d rather be safe than sorry. Even if that means climbing a fence when a calf or cow may just be bluffing. Thanks for watching again!
No. I purchased a bunch of old cull cows that were 3rd stage bred. I calved them out and let them raise another calf. But since they were old and needing to retire when I bought them, most of them need to be sold because they can’t handle raising another calf. I hope to replace them with younger stock that will last another 10+ years.
You should have seen my last corral set up 😂. I was lucky to have been able to load all the cows I did out of that one. I do have some improvements to make on it though. I just had to build these as quick as I could to get the calves weaned.
Loading cattle period is never 100% successful. Especially when they are not familiar with you, the truck, panels or process... You did the best you could with the time and utensils on hand. Just a thought... possible plastic or heavy tarp blocking the cattles eyesight through the panels could help. Honestly... They eventually were loaded... A win in the check box. Do your thing and we will keep viewing. Best wishes. MERRY CHRISTMAS 🤶 🎄 ❤️
Someone else mentioned making the loadout area solid where they can’t see out. Any recommendations on what material to use? Another viewer said used conveyor belt. I don’t really want to weld sheet metal on. But yes, it’s a big improvement from what I had been using. And I didn’t lose any this time while loading so it served its purpose. Still have some improvements to make when I get some more time.
Half of these were the beefmaster calves. That’s about as crazy as they’ll get hopefully. Eventually when I get some more time and money I’ll get some more pens built.
Everyone talks about birth weight and weaning weight when they talk about their bulls. After 50 years of being around cattle and raising Angus and shorthorns. The first thing I look at when selecting a bull is temperament. I had a few crazy bulls and they passed it on to the calves but I switched to a mellow bull then raising cattle became so much more enjoyable. When getting your next bull, buy it from a farmer with easy going cattle. It’s unfortunate about your best calf. That’s a shame and couple grand missing from your bottom line 😢. Keep the faith and you did a good job with the corral and will serve you well for years.
“Quiet men make quiet cows”
@@DickAnderson-k9y I watch Sonne Farms, I’m always amazed with how gentle their herd is!
I'm sorry for the loss of your beautiful calf. It may be part of life on a ranch, but that doesn't mean it's easy. Best wishes for a happy holiday season to you and your family.
Appreciate the kind words. Have a good one!
Such a shame of the calf.....sorry for the loss.
This is the part about cattle farming that stinks. Dern bulls being bulls.
Love your videos, and glad to see you posting so many here recently. Always look forward to watching them
I didn’t get the opportunity to see the signs. I found three dead calves, lost one more and a cow truly hurts.
I am so sorry about your calf. We've lost cattle over the years and it never gets easier.
Charolais are really difficult cattle to handle. We had a bull and a heifer from two shorthorn cows and they never birthed again. You can only breed charlolais to charloais I guess. They tore up the barn, knocked down rail fences and bullied the rest of the herd. A guy bought both of them one fall just to get the blond hides. Sad about the calf. Good video. Pax.
Seems some charolais can be wild but I know they wean out HEAVY calves. Everyone’s got their preferences I guess.
@@icebabysnocain I had a hundred head of Charolais and never had any issues! They were always a gentle breed for us! Young cattle are always testing the boundaries!
Your newly built pen seems to have not been designed for loading out cattle. Revisions are clearly needed, to make loading safer and more efficient.
The main goal of the pen was to be able to catch them without them breaking out. Plan is to build a Bud box and alley for loadout in the future
What did your vet say about the calf?
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Good video sorry about the lost happy holidays to you and your family
calf is Fragile
Thank you for sharing ❤❤
All animals fight for breeding purposes they don't normally end up dead when they don't have horns or antlers they usually just get their butt whipped he must have had an internal injury like you said but the bull did not outright kill him
@@johnrose9840 longtime cattle rancher, bulls durning breeding time are dangerous! I have seen many fight to the death! It is an animal’s natural instinct to get rid of the competition! It’s why wild animals will kill the offspring of others! Survival of the fittest!
On another note your a beeter welder then you think poor welds would have busted when them calf's put all that pressure on the sucker rod in the panel in that same spot . Those pens are holding up nicely you built.
Still wouldn’t say I’m a good welder lol but you’re right, it held up better than I expected with those calves trying to push through it.
Need to have a physical none see through barrier at the loading point
Yes that’s gonna be the next project. Calves kept sticking their heads through the sides. Haven’t figured out what material would be best though.
@FarmandHammer scrap barn roof will work. Nothing that will flap in the wind. Just so they can't see through on at the last cut gate. Also good job and making tall, I have seen cattle jump a 6 ft fence.
@@FarmandHammerjust a suggestion for you used or second hand conveyer belt easy to fit to panels where you're loading the calves/cows
@@Snyderfamilyhomestead I thought the same thing! Create a “blind” loading alley!
Sorry to hear you lost one Isaac.
sorry bout the loss.
Sad to hear about the calf,but bulls will be bulls.Keep safe Love ya Blessings .
Looks like the new improved corral you made is working out! The only folks who do not loose them dont have them.
It’s sure better than what I had before 😂 Still have some improvements I’d like to make on it but those will have to wait.
Trailer is dark inside compared to the rest of the corral, dark holes are not where cow/calf wants to go, or even see it as a barrier. See if putting a light in there (ceiling) helps them understand it is where they can/should go.
so wonderful beautiful video Isaac i love it see so nice it’s so respectful work what you do
Why not get an electronic protor (not sure about the name)?
It would make them move forcibly
You don't want to punish an animal for not understanding what you want.
Also, the trailer is darker then anything around. Putting a light in there may work way better. Light - dark transitions are difficult for animals, making them less extreme helps with that. Cooperation works way better always then force, and yes that requires observation, patience and knowing how animals think.
We’ve never owned an electric cattle prod. Just never needed it. Most the time the cows/calves respond well enough to noise and a paddle or flag.
@@BakangBigfish a cattle prod could make things worse, creat aggressive cattle, and cause them to overreact and hurt themselves! Floppy Flags work well…
Buying older, bred cows is one way to grow a herd. You are going to have to work harder to get a more uniform bunch of calves, but it looks like you are in this for the long haul, so that shouldn't be a problem. Losing a calf in such a stupid way sure does suck. We had a calf get down in a very small depression and couldn't get up. It was the day before we sold them!
I don’t know about your vaccination program. Talk to a veterinarian about the possibility of black leg.
Normally blackleg will kill them quicker than in 3-4 days. Looked like a broken or dislocated shoulder. He didn’t present the normal blackleg signs.
@@FarmandHammer you’re doing great!
💩happens!!
I feel your frustration 😂
Great job, loading by yourself! Defiantly not the easiest thing to do!! .
I wonder if the trailer looking so dark inside is what makes them unwilling to go inside, put some good lights inside so it’s lit up like daylight?!!
@@jefferyschirm4103 yes! I think the light would make them think it was an escape route!
Sometimes blackleg presents like your description.
Normally it will kill them quicker than 3 or 4 days. His front shoulder/leg was pretty clearly broken. Didn’t look like blackleg. I was worried about that on day one though
Please tell me you’re keeping the blue roan cow I love her
If you are talking about the one with horns, yes she is staying for now. She is a little too friendly for having those big horns but she raised a good calf.
Bull becomes hamburger on my farm
The crazy thing is, this bull gets picked on when he’s with our other herd bulls. Guess he took it out on a bull he thought he could handle.
SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry buddy
Sometimes I get scared for you with those big bulls you be careful as you know that work is dangerous and you are out there alone most of the time or it appears you’re alone. That is sad about your calf I hate to see that. Keep up the good work Issac.
Thanks for the concern but I do try to be as careful as I can. And yes, I normally work out there alone and the cell service isn’t great so I’d rather be safe than sorry. Even if that means climbing a fence when a calf or cow may just be bluffing. Thanks for watching again!
Man you need a dog to help 😂
Great Video!!!
Thanks for watching it!
If you have to sell 22 cows does that mean you have a fertility problem in the bull?
No. I purchased a bunch of old cull cows that were 3rd stage bred. I calved them out and let them raise another calf. But since they were old and needing to retire when I bought them, most of them need to be sold because they can’t handle raising another calf. I hope to replace them with younger stock that will last another 10+ years.
Young man I’m thinking if your are handling cattle you might want to make a better handling system
You should have seen my last corral set up 😂. I was lucky to have been able to load all the cows I did out of that one. I do have some improvements to make on it though. I just had to build these as quick as I could to get the calves weaned.
Good job ur pens are 6 ft high
6’7” tall to be exact. I thought they were too tall but had a couple calves try jumping out so I guess they are working just fine.
Business of cattle business...!
need to make the long ally your load out ally.
The plan is to add a Bud box and alley in the future! Just need some extra time and a little more money to make it happen.
Loading cattle period is never 100% successful. Especially when they are not familiar with you, the truck, panels or process... You did the best you could with the time and utensils on hand. Just a thought... possible plastic or heavy tarp blocking the cattles eyesight through the panels could help. Honestly... They eventually were loaded... A win in the check box. Do your thing and we will keep viewing. Best wishes. MERRY CHRISTMAS 🤶 🎄 ❤️
Someone else mentioned making the loadout area solid where they can’t see out. Any recommendations on what material to use? Another viewer said used conveyor belt. I don’t really want to weld sheet metal on.
But yes, it’s a big improvement from what I had been using. And I didn’t lose any this time while loading so it served its purpose. Still have some improvements to make when I get some more time.
Cant weight to seemore brahma calves more problems crazy u need alot better set up
Half of these were the beefmaster calves. That’s about as crazy as they’ll get hopefully. Eventually when I get some more time and money I’ll get some more pens built.
@@FarmandHammer one is always learning! A lot of these commenters have never even smelled a cow, much less raised any!!