I found this through Alan Ritchson’s UA-cam channel and I am grateful and humbled by you shining the light on our faith. Keep up the great work and know you’re making an impact. God Bless 🙏❤️✝️
Yeah, Tim twists the word over and over! Singleness is not same seex attraction and IT DOES matter to God! "Be holy as I am holy." It says the person seeking DIVORCE is the one with the "hard heart!" God's love NEVER FAILS!
Hi all. After reading all of the comments, I realize people can listen to the same thing and understand it completely differently. But here's what I understand from Tim's fabulous message: Sex is only meant to happen in a marital relationship between a man and a woman. No other form of sex is condoned by the Bible or by Tim. I don't know how anyone thought Tim was okay with other forms of sex. The only thing he says about people who are not straight is that they should lead a life of celibacy, devoted to the kingdom. The same way straight people can be celibate and devoted to the kingdom. That's the essence of that passage. Thanks, Tim, for opening my eyes to lots of things that I would have never discerned on my own. You are awesome :) God bless you!
The problems: 1. Gay people can't choose whether to be celibate or not. They are condemned by this book to be alone. You used the euphemism of "devoted to the kingdom". How would that look like? Those who say gay people need to be celibate, go aheadand be an example of that loneliness. 2. Epidemiological studies absolutely disagree with the bible's opinion. Physical intimacy is the most important predictor for depression, anxiety, heart disease and suicide. This "celibacy" thing might seem funny to you and you might feel righteous when you tell people how to live their lives, but this has major consequences. Rethink your position.
It’s not even illegal to cheat on your spouse anymore. Just because something is considered acceptable by modern society,don’t think for one second that God had changed His mind because of sinful man doing so. This is not a call to think you (if heterosexuals) are “better” than homosexuals. We are all sinners. The problem comes when we try and justify our sin, because we love it so much. NO ONE is saying resisting our natural sinful nature is easy...in fact it’s downright impossible without the Holy Spirit. You can be a kleptomaniac,serial liar,have Tourette’s that has you taking the Lords name in vain,etc....all these things are clearly a mental issue. That’s not meant to be said “these people are evil,and we are above them!” It’s simply an understanding of legitimate issues/circumstances that everyday people struggle with because of SINFUL NATURE. It’s up to them to find God and his mercy in the end,no matter what anyone else thinks about what they do being right or wrong.
Feat. Cicero there are plenty of straight Christians who choose to be celibate for whatever reasons they may have. They may feel God has called them to it, even if they do not want to. In this sense, they can’t choose either. It is possible to live a fulfilled life without sex and marriage. Both marriage and celibacy require sacrifices and offer good things to us too. As a single straight woman, of course I find the loneliness you mention really difficult sometimes, but I know this is what God is calling me to, at least for now. And I appreciate the upsides of singleness that I wouldn’t have as a married person. Community IS essential to being a healthy human. The Bible says so at the beginning. We need other humans around us, loving and supporting us, but we do not NEED sex. Sex is the most intimate way you can know another human, but we can and should aim to know God even better than this. It is totally possible - in fact, it is His design. Sex is a pointer to what it means to be human - to know and love God. But it itself is not the meaning. This is such a painful and intense situation for many, straight or gay. But God has reached me so deeply in this time of singleness. I’ve learnt to trust Him more and love Him more than before, and I know He is making something far more beautiful out of my life than I could ever do on my own.
@@feat.cicero4638 What??? Can't chose to be celibate or not? Of course they can chose to be celibate. It is their choice? Another choice is to not be celibate and marry someone of the opposite sex. The third choice is to live a sinful life and be intimate with someone of the same sex. It should be obvious to all Christians at that point that the person is living sinfully. The scripture is crystal clear on it. Also note that Jesus said if you lust after someone you sin. We all do this. We are all sinners. Just don't try to call it OK.
I cried watching this video. I am same sex attracted. I've been involving in homosexuality since as early as I was 12, or 13. I did this act so often that I was too used to it to think another way. I identified myself as a gay man and even paraded my sexual orientation (wearing makeup, associating with other gay men, and enjoying promiscuity). But all those things never quenched my thirst for love, care, affection, protection, attention and recognition. This kind of sexual behavior left me with shame and a feeling of deficiency. But then the desire came back and I fell into the same pit over and over again. When I first believed in Jesus I was given the strength to say no to my unwholesome thoughts and desires but I still struggled with the idea of having to get married to please God. I read this passage about Jesus mentioning eunuchs before but did not really understand the meaning until I heard you explain it. Thank you. May God's blessing be with you always.
I think if the fulfillment of desire -- even if it is only momentarily -- didn't give that burst of bliss, it would have been easier to see clearly a long time ago, both for same-sex attracted and for straight. The straight world have it easier b/c, if we get married and have sex we often also have children and then as I've said elsewhere, sex is often severely restricted. Marriage isn't, is not, is not, is not about unlimited amounts of 'safe' sex. It's about additional sacrifices and additional limits on sex and on 'bliss' in general. There's so much distortion in our idea of what our lives are expected/supposed to be in western culture that it is no wonder you, in particular, and many, maybe even most, in general get terribly confused. But it is a confusion we also perpetuate because it seems to promise unlimited amounts of fulfillment and joy. It is only when this doesn't happen that we begin to clear the fog away from the reality of sex. Yes, joy -- yes agony -- yes work and sacrifice and loneliness, in or outside marriage. I don't think of the American dream as a dream anymore. I think of it as the collective global American Fantasy which Reality always demolishes. But meaning? A meaningful life, ah that brings a sense of fulfillment rarely equaled by the simple good luck of getting what you want (I mean 'you' here in the broad sense of everyone). To be born a eunuch means -- you're no different than Jesus if you give up on sex/family/marriage. That's not such a shabby identity.
Jay -- where does it condemn the person for existing as a homosexual? Where does it condemn them for being friends with other homosexuals. The Bible condemns same sex sexual activity just as it condemn opposite sex sexual activity that is outside of marriage. Where does it condemn individuals who have a same sex attraction who simply use the term homosexual or gay? It says a whole lot on the other person for assuming they know someone’s sexual activity simply because someone states their homosexual.
Ignore Jay you trusted Jesus and gave up an old life for a new life. I'll see you in heaven brother. God is not a cruel God and he will more than make away for you. Like he has made a way for me. You have to trust in the Holy Spirit that Jesus has bought for you with his blood. People are scared and dont trust him but he called you and you answered, YOU will be fine.
oh and thanks for sharing this, it took courage. I can well understand how you'd struggle with the idea of marriage -- of course you wouldn't want to. Good to know that Jesus wasn't married and had to endure what he did -- alone. Marriage isn't everything by a long shot.
I am single and plan on staying that way until God leads somebody to me. And I plan on saving myself for whoever God places in my life. I have to honor God with my body and my soul
Why not be Gay or Bisexual (homosexuality)? According to this teaching it is accepted under Jesus' teaching. What about the scripture that ALL scripture is given for doctrine, reproof and correction? Doesn't the NT teach that homosexuality is a sin? Is that not part of the scripture that WE a Christians under NT law are to abide by? There is ulterior motive in this teaching... Gay is OK
As a child of God my belief is , homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord. I can not support that lifestyle nor will I . But at the same time as his child I must love and pray for those who do choose this lifestyle. God is about love not hate. I will not be cruel or mean to those who live in that life. I will pray for them God opens their eyes to the way, truth and light. I have my own sins I am working on. So who am I to condemn any soul? I need Jesus every day of my life.I don't walk on water.My savior does.He has shown me mercy on so many levels and so many times.Without him I am nothing.With him I have everything I need including eternal life.
I have been married for 40 years. The last 20 I have been sober and saved. The dichotomy between the first 20 and second is explained by Tim in this lesson. Saved by Grace.
You should write a book and title it Sober and Saved How The Amazing Grace of God saved me and my marriage! Just a thought from the Holy Spirit 🤷🏾♀️✝️❤️
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Loving Christ and longing for His appearing- Born again at age 45, 37 years in a covenant marriage though divorced for 11 years. The innocent spouse deserted by her husband and divorced against her will is still married in God's eyes until death do you part. A vow is a vow. We singles are really very blessed to have a much deeper personal relationship with Jesus Christ and to hear the voice of the Lord. Revelation 3:10-11.
Married life is warriors life they always fight to win even they lose every day single living is dirty living like still water gets dirty day by day according to religious.husband's house wife's real house she is real queen in that house. Divorce doesn't allowed in religious.wife's karma belongs to Husband's family .changing relationships men and women lose their beauty. Changing relationships having loads of stress on brain. Mistakes happened just forgive yourself and others builds up happiness in heart and soul coprate with love. Family is blessing. Family teaches us how to behave each others. Family teaches us how to tolerate each others. Family teaches us how to forgive each others. Living alone is ok for while but never right whole life one spiritual person said.
This is the best sermon I've seen on what Jesus teaches us about marriage and sex. Thank you Tim for your teaching and putting so much thought into wrestling with tough topics
Just something about what our brother here says that struck me. He had just finished the doctrine and rather than the attitude of,"now this is the law now walk you in it", he humbly says "this would start the conversation but be nice to each other. This did something for me. It shows me the mentality that all of the teaching the purpose is to make us better at loving each other or better yet striving with God's help to achieve closer grades of that ideal daily. This is not religion's attitude. It is not a cold closed-circuit "I'm- keeping-all-of-God's-rules" mentality.
Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Jesus did NOT say straight or gay! He twisted scripture to fit his agenda. The rest of his message I agree with, But that is how the enemy deceives, a lie surrounded with mostly truth.
@@DEWorDEWnot He said there are beautiful humans, who are deeply flawed, made in the image of God. He didn't quote galatians and add anything, he was simply speaking truth. we all have flaws, and someone who's gay isn't more flawed than others, it's just a sin that person struggles with, but they are called to repentance by Jesus. Don't be quick to judge something without seeing why it was said brother. We all sin every day, and it's easy to point out someone else's sin before our own. God bless you, I hope you receive what I've said with gentleness, I don't mean anything to come off as rude. Have a wonderful day.
Both exegetically and pastrorally, Pastor Tim nails this. Would that every pastor in our polarized and addled nation could walk the same line balancing truth, wisdom and compassion. We wouldn't be so divided and confused.
7 But I wish everyone were single, just as I am. Yet each person has a special gift from God, of one kind or another. 8 So I say to those who aren’t married and to widows-it’s better to stay unmarried, just as I am. 9 But if they can’t control themselves, they should go ahead and marry. It’s better to marry than to burn with lust. 10 But for those who are married, I have a command that comes not from me, but from the Lord.A wife must not leave her husband. 11 But if she does leave him, let her remain single or else be reconciled to him. And the husband must not leave his wife. 1 Corinthians 7
Sadly, this particular teaching is an exegetical embarrassment and a pastoral license to justify and condone divorce and remarriage of those God has joined together. The Old Testament criticizes and prohibits polygyny, which is the opposite of this presentation. The Old Testament also teaches lifelong and till death marriage: '[if] she is his women, he may not divorce her all of his days' (Deut. 22) and 'you shall not take a woman [woman 2] to her sister [woman 1] [Hebrew idiom for one thing next to another, never means biological sisters] to impinge upon her during her life.' (Lev. 18:18) i.e. if you have woman 1, and she is lawfully your woman, you may neither divorce her, all of your days, nor add a second wife all of the first woman's life. That is lifelong monogamy. Ex. 21 has nothing to do with polygamy or divorce, since the woman goes out as unmarried as when she came in. Deut. 24:1-4 is about the divorce during the betrothal stage before the marriage becomes permanent and unconditional. The Lord affirmed lifelong marriage and the restriction on divorce to the porneia case of Deut 22:13-21
That is the most profound and brave thing I have ever heard about Jesus, sex, marriage, and our culture. Thank you, Tim. And thank you Jesus for bringing me this incredibly important message
The state marriage license churches require to marry couples abrogates marriage vows and makes divorce no fault by state statutes . Does Tim's church require marriage licenses and no fault divorce laws?
I've been struggling in relationship with my husband (not his fault, I've changed), asking God to teach me how to be in this relationship. I'd like to run away. My husband is not a believer and at times his behaviour is troubling, BUT I can see how this relationship is a reflection of my relationship with God. I can be very displeasing to Him and yet, he stays and hopes that I will stay in covenant with Him and by doing so, I will become more like Jesus. Even through my spiritually adulterous behaviour, He stays and hopes and works. I pray for His patience, his will in this human relationship - this mirror of my life with God.
Wow Amazing words. Keep going Holy Spirit will give you straight. The Saint wife will santify the husband. Do not think that if my husband Lopes the Lord my life is going to be easy. Marriage is to be holy, not happy or easy.
I’m sorry you’re enduring this hardship. I pray for your husband and your marriage that you both find a deeper love than you thought possible. And that your husband recognizes that the depth can be found in Christ, alone. May He sustain you, and all of the pieces in your heart
You can hear it in his voice how much this means to him. It must hit home some how. I thank our Lord and savior Jesus Christ the Messiah for giving Tim the strength and courage to cover such a hot topic. I hope he is led to do more troubled topics.
It's actually a simple topic to go over. As long as the Christian is Holy Spirit filled and not defeated by the sin of man pleaseing cowardice than we all can take 2 minutes to share with whoever will hear these truths.
This is not the spirit of God, more likely the spirit of the devil because God clearly states that homosexuality is a sin and marriage is ordained by Christ. The bible says that he who finds a wife, finds a good thing. As followers of Christ we must not put our trust in man but in God and his word.
I was wondering why he was so nervous. I see now. None of the claims here are true. He taught that marriage as biblically taught is between man and a woman and there are people who are called to singleness including people who are born as eunuchs…it’s just the scriptures. We have been obsessed (evangelicals) with marriage and h to e family as an end goal and it has become an idol. We have been obsessed (conservatives) with homosexuality instead of honoring all who are called to not marry regardless of sexual orientation. We have become obsessed with sex and sexual pleasure…he is t taking any sides here. It’s all the narrow road.
Praise Jesus for your Heart Pastor Tim Mackie. The Holy Spirit is really leading you to be bold and courageous to show your love for Jesus and what the Bible is really telling us. I am slowly seeing the truth. thank you.
Tim this is the first time of me hearing you. You have something in your heart that I want more of. You are also well spoken and you know what you're talking about. Thank you for speaking courageously, God bless you.
Tim's explanations are in no way "inadequate". God's Word and Jesus' explanations are wholly adequate, whether I like it or not. I agree with everything Jesus says. BTW This is profound and beautiful. Tim Mackie is a gifted theologian.
As a Father with a Wife I can so vouch for what he said.Relationship and Children’s are taking almost everything you got leaving little to no time or energy for anything else.
That is your Godly image of humanity, embrace it. Your example of Godly love. God created Adam and said it wasnt good for him to be alone, and God created Eve and they became one in a marriage covenant. Its true that children came after the fall and are born in sorrow, but through sorrow we can see what is good and children are given to us to help us be more aware of others and less of ourselves. That is my thoughts.
Beautiful. Hard pill to swallow but I feel you’ve nailed it! I originally misjudged you as I thought you were going to send a message that perverts the gospel, but instead I found one very brave preacher willing to lovingly tackle issues that are incredibly hard to discuss.. yet are still at the forefront of our culture.
@@lilmissamberr that's right now I think I remember. If I'm not mistaken, I was trying to say I may have misjudged this teacher. I should have spoken more carefully. My first impression was that he would have taught something where a modern feminist ideology comes first to appease the masses and the bible takes the back seat or possibly is twisted to fit the narrative. Something like that. If this is the video I'm thinking of, I might have said this because I was impressed with how lovingly he tries to gently steer his sheep toward a better acceptance of Gods word. I think I said the last part because I believe he is trying to reach people who may be used to a lot of rejection and it was cool to see the way he reaches people with a lot of loving patience and kindness... hope that helps clarify. I'm learning to do the same a little at a time and still growing in faith myself. Actually got a long way go go lol. God bless you
@@donaldobama8799 ayy I know exactly how you feel lmao. I've been disappointed to see people take scripture and just fit them wherever is convenient so that no one is offended. And yeah, 'gentle' is a great way to describe Tim. God bless you too!
@@lilmissamberr...it's OK to question a teacher of the gospel..as long as it's biblical..in this day and age...the Bible is twisted to meet man's needs...we need truth. God's word is truth...even though we might not like it at times...it's God breathed 🙏..it's good for instruction. GOD BLESS
I watch ur videos constantly....I'm so grateful for u. because of ur love for the bible I now find myself in love with the bible and wanting to learn everything I can. and the manner in which u tackled this teaching is admirable....very real and honest and respectful. it's so obvious that ur a compassionate and loving human being. you spoke the word through ur uncomfortableness and nervousness and that's awesome!
Tim you yourself and the Bible Project do an excellent job at explaining and painting a picture for your audience to have a better understanding of Gods Word. I don’t know if your nerves got the best of you, but you left many really lost on homosexuality, love your gay neighbor, it’s ok to be gay just don’t have sex, Jesus loves gay people… Your audience straight/gay need you to paint a clearer picture. Your a great caring and loving teacher. I’ve never questioned any of your teachings, but this one you have left many very lost and confused. I realize this was done 6 years ago, but it would be wonderful if you came back to this topic and straightened it out for all of us. Thank you!
Would that I had the courage this man displays. To preach on this topic in the midst of the current cultural climate is a testament to the level of boldness the Spirit can grant a person.
I'm years behind listening to this sermon. I love the way Tim digs in to Scripture and preaches in a way that's exegetical and engaging. Reminds me of Rob Bell before he became more of a universalist. I think Tim treaded carefully and well along the "gay" topic. I do struggle with Matthew 19.12 talking specifically about someone who is gay. Seems like it could also be someone who doesn't have a sex drive and certainly these people exist and are not gay. Regardless, I don't necessarily have an issue with people being "born" gay in the same way that I don't have an issue with people being born prone to alcoholism, or other addictions. What's important is that they/we fight sin (even though we may fail at times) and not just settle and say, "I guess God made me like this, might as well give in." You can't read into this passage (Matthew 19) too much but it seems to support the idea that the eunuch, born this way, has no sexual desire...one way or another. Rambling...sorry. Interesting.
I constantly return to this sermon to remind myself of its beauty and power, I am so grateful for it. It has helped me to understand so much! Thank you!
Thank you so much for this great message of hope to a lifelong single human here who has struggled to fit in with most Christian groups or churches. Such Amazing hope in this text.
Listening to this in 2023 where society's confusion has gone ballistic. It is now ok for students can identify as a cat. Let alone male or female. Jesus' answer is so simple. Not Tim's best. His teaching is diluted by the world's teaching on gender.
Thank you Tim SO much for this sermon. Such an important message to hear. The courage and strength it took for you to stand up there and teach that is amazing. I pray it will speak to many people's hearts and minds and give them pause and that they will choose to listen to God's truth. Thank you!
Shalom All! Would be wonderful to have you consider what some Biblical scholars and historians have done in collaboration with Michael Rood and some of his colleagues at A Rood Awakening -- there have been some pivotal discoveries related to Biblical history in the last few years. aroodawakening.tv/
34:55 “…These laws in the Torah, you can’t just assume when you’re reading a law that you’re reading God’s ideal moral vision for human life. The purpose of the law is He found Israel as He found them, and He’s working with Israel in their ancient context and fallen state to push them toward GREATER justice.” This really assists in responding to so many laws from old who’s specificities distract from the 10 today.
I am not Christian but I would give Jesus the same grace I would give any moral god. Aspects of this resonated well with me, I appreciate the logical approach.
I appreciate Tim's graciousness and tact as he navigates the topic of gender. I don't know why but as an LGBTQ person, I feel discouraged after watching this message. What I am getting from what Tim said is that us LGBTQs should just live a life of no sex and no marriage as another form of upholding the image of God, apart from being heterosexually married. That removes from us the right and the fruits of forming a loving, covenant relationship with someone we love. Aren't we capable of loving just because we are the metaphorical eunuchs? I've been following Bible Project for quite some time and it really felt like it's a community of worship where I can belong. But after hearing this from Tim there's a part in my heart that's hurting. I don't know, but what I know of is that finding a worship community as LGBTQs is a difficult, hurtful journey. I hope I can find it. God will provide the way. What do you think I should do next?
Why do you think you have a right to form a covenant relationship? If God calls me to lifelong abstinence, then how do I have that right apart from God? I have no life or rights apart from that which the Lord has gifted me. I am thankful to God that I have anything at all. Yes, you are capable of loving, because love is not primarily sexual. God has no inherent physical form, and God is the source of all love. Sexual practice within the marriage covenant between male and female was created by God to be one way of expressing the love of God. There are many other ways to love, otherwise Jesus, the Son of God, did not love because Jesus never married. I know you may not like this, but our feelings can lead us astray. Mine have led me to dark places. God is the front of our train, then reason, then will, and feelings or emotions need to know where they belong. They belong in the back of the train being guided by God, reason, and will. They are not deleted, but given their proper place. I respect and love you as an image of God, and it is through this comment I am expressing it. I pray God teaches myself and others how to love and what love looks like, because we all need God to raise us in wisdom, justice, truth, and love.
@@ChristFollower00 Thank you as well for your graciousness. There’s so much to grasp from what you wrote here, but what I am getting from it is that God is calling LGBTs for lifelong abstinence and practice the love that Jesus is teaching us; such love is beyond the sexual activity meant for married heterosexuals. The world is filled with straight people living their life-getting married, getting joint investments, building families with ease, enjoying the privileges that the world gave them because they’re straight-while us LGBTs are left in the margins, often doubting that our existence matter, because institutions like states and churches have long been making us feel unwelcome. Whyyyyyy is it so hard for us to find our spiritual home? Why does it have to be harder for us LGBTs? Do you think repressing sexual desire is easy, when we see straight people every single day enjoying their life in the world which they designed for themselves? Do you think LGBTs shouldn’t fight for a piece of that world?
@@aemanllantada4273 I am rereading what I wrote, and have realized in hindsight that my comment could easily be unclear or confrontational. This was not my intention, rather I noticed your post was more recent and I wanted you to know that God sees you and cares about you (hopefully through my response). You correctly understood what I was trying to faithfully relate to you from scripture and study. I do not know if you are a follower of the Messiah (Jesus of Nazareth) or not, and so my dialogue will reflect this. A couple words of caution here.: First, is that looking at the world for good and evil/right and wrong is a "recipe for disaster" to use a common phrase. If what Jesus and His followers have said and written is true, then following the world intensify our spiritual blindness (blind leading the blind). The privileges the world seems to have given people are not what we need to be focused on as they are temporary and fleeting. Followers of Jesus trust that His Kingdom is already partially here through the Church (All true followers of the Messiah, Jesus). These followers of Jesus are tasked with living out the commands and teachings of their Messiah because they believe that He is one member of the triune God (Jesus, God the Son). We are to do everything in our power to welcome people who desire to experience what God is doing through the Church, and hopefully non-believers trust in the Lord because the Holy Spirit uses our faithful witness. The Church must also work against moral vices and crimes in love and for justice. The Church is then ridiculed (sometimes much worse) for its devotion to a righteous and loving God. I apologize for any unjust treatment from the Church and ask you to look at what God teaches through the Old and New Testament, especially through Jesus of Nazareth. We still fail to live loving and just lives as our Lord did, but we are works in progress. Second, it is important to remember that everyone will have to sacrifice what they think defines them when following Jesus. God does not demand we make ourselves good to approach Him, but rather after we begin to rely on Him God begins making us into who we were always made to be. God is tearing out things I thought essential to myself, and it is excruciatingly painful. I have struggled with lustful pre-marital sexual desires and behaviors too. I understand the struggle seems impossible, but remember that if we are followers of Jesus, then God has promised to give us a way to escape and endure these temptations. Humankind was never meant to find its identity in anyone or anything other than God. We have the great gift from God to be forgiven of our moral crimes and vices, being remade into who humankind was always made to be. We have all committed capital offenses (using legal terms) deserving of eternal punishment from a holy, just, and loving God. Thankfully, God loves us and has come in Jesus to bear the punishment we all deserved. Jesus took our evil to the cross, and suffered much worse than any temptation we struggle with now. Jesus is the Son who had been in eternal love and justice with the Father and Holy Spirit before creation. This means He is the only one who could bear the enormous punishment all of humanity deserved, and come out the other side victorious. It is much worse than mere torture on the cross, which is still horrendous to think about since humanity murdered their loving and just Creator. The death we deserve is not solely physical, but it is primarily spiritual/relational. Humanity deserved eternal exile from the conscious presence of God, God's love, and fellowship with God. Jesus experienced this separation from God during His sacrifice. The Father and Spirit veiled their presence from our Savior, and Jesus felt alone for the first time ever. The eternal fellowship He belonged to became obscured. The Son did not stop being one person of the triune God, but rather the Son lost all the experience and benefits of God's love and was left with the justice of God directed towards sin. Think about this when you feel alone and unloved. The triune God of the Universe loved you and every other human enough to create this world, knowing that we would rebel against Him. God knew that He could pardon us from our crimes and save us, but it required that God take the punishment on Godself. God suffered immeasurable torture and torment in our place, and rose victoriously from the dead. This was to show us what any who trust in Jesus are to become. The LGBTQ+ community has not been forgotten or despised by God. God knows them and every other person fully. God came through Jesus of Nazareth to redeem all humanity that comes to Him. God will be faithful to strengthen all those who lean on Him. It may take months, years, or all of our time on earth, but if we follow Jesus until the end, then eternity will make our current struggles seem incredibly small. As those who lean on the work of Jesus are declared innocent due to accepting the divine pardon and made innocent through divine purification, they enter into God's eternal bliss, fellowship, justice, and love. This is God's Kingdom, where God wipes our tears away personally, and there will be no desire nor reason to sin (so no sin at all). God respects the choice of those who reject His offer of pardon and eternal life with Him. They remain in their guilt for their crimes. God cannot destroy those made in His image, and so they are quarantined forever away from the fullness of God, and are left only with His just judgment known to them. This is God's offer to everyone who will accept it: grace, pardon, moral transformation, and eternity with the triune God: Father, Son, Holy Spirit. God loves you and is helping myself and the Church to love like He does. You can friend me on Facebook under the same name you see here if you want to talk more. God's blessings upon you Aeman Llantada.
I was really encouraged seeing your comment among many others that were very discouraging.. i am not a part of the LGBTQ+ community, but I personally really struggle with the Church's view on marriage and sex outside of heterosexual relationships. I don't have answers for you, because I am looking for the same answers, but I wanted to encourage you to keep asking questions and to keep learning. I think growing closer to God is the best thing we can do for our doubts - he is the only one who knows the absolute truth. Like Tim said, any human explanation or understanding is inherently flawed and incomplete.
@@faithrineer2538 Keep asking your questions and struggling with God. I merely encourage you to never reject the Lord, even if God gives you answers you do not like. I have struggled with God on many things, and still am. While I agree that the Church and people in general have been wrong before, we do get things right sometimes. The same God who calls me, you, and everyone else to deny themselves, pick up their cross, and follow Him; is the God who took our punishment and forgives us. Whatever we struggle with, seek God, and God will help you see important truth clearly. God bless and enjoy Easter, the death and resurrection of Jesus are in view.
So far, (i am working through this whole channel from the beginning), the way this marriage and divorce discussion goes, it makes you dig down and be completely honest with yourself. It brings you thru the hard discussion and face to face with facts. While marriage can be beautiful between a man and woman who meet and agree wholeheartedly to live life together as one, it isn't meant for everyone. Just like grains of sand on the beach, everyone will have a different experience. Never marrying or divorcing/remarrying several times does not strike you out of the kingdom of heaven. It is how you gracefully handle your unique presented opportunities and keep your eyes on God at all times and in all things and in all places. Amen.
Jesus is God and made it clear marraige is between man and woman. I bet tim wont mention romans 1 or 1st corinthians 6:9-11. Thats why sodom and gomorahh was destroyed hauhtyness means pride meaning in that case gay pride thats why he got lot out of there and gay dudes wanted to do it with the angels and they angels smacked them with light to blind them.
Adding "no gay or straight" to that Bible verse is both accurate to the heart of Scripture (in that we all must deny our divisions and "identities" apart from Christ), but also shows a major flaw in thinking (that you can retain a sinful identity and yet still be a Christian) and reveals and underlying motive that this sermon, though the earlier parts were founded on truth, was crafted to sneak in at the last moment.
What an exceexcellent talk on a very touchy subject. He brought up many points that most people miss entirely. And he concludes it with something that only true men with saintly qualities would know or realize...Thankyou Mr Mackie.
Tim you're great scholar of the Bible, but a consistent life of prayer is also important to bring you closer to God's truth and love . Remember Acts 4:6, please do not neglect the ministry of prayer 🙏🏾.
So thankful for how Tim Make always gets to the heart of the matter, and reveals the heart/image of Our Creator, through thoughtfully exploring the context of scripture
Shalom All! Would be wonderful to have you consider what some Biblical scholars and historians have done in collaboration with Michael Rood and some of his colleagues at A Rood Awakening -- there have been some pivotal discoveries related to Biblical history in the last few years. aroodawakening.tv/
"For among them are those who enter into households and captivate weak women weighed down with sins, led on by various impulses, always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." - 2 Tim 3:6-7
Awesome teaching! Handles hard topics so well, so much revelation in this sermon. Really helps people to reconnect to God, and realise we need to come out of the world and its teachings on society, of whats right or wrong, or how we should live. We need to follow Jesus instead, the creator of all things. He is our guide, he is the way, the truth, and the life.
It’s a gift to honor the words of the message without agenda or denominational bias and then share it in simple words and context that people can relate to. Tim has clearly made himself an available tool in the hand of God.
Isaiah 5:20 - Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
@@withlessAsbestosthere are countless heresy hunters who see Tim Mackie as the GREAT WHITE WHALE to their Ahab and think he’s the worst thing to happen to Christianity lately. Which is ironic..
@@withlessAsbestosYeah, people are trying to "Catch" Tim slipping up or affirming sexual identities so they can call him a false teacher. He's one of the FEW that actually MAKE SENSE. all those who are CHASING DOWN TIM. Either STOP. He is our Brother in Christ. Or be specific. He lives in PORTLAND THE STRONGHOLD OF THE LEFT. So he is very careful about these things. Not because he is ashamed, but because he WANTS TO MEET PORTLANDERS WHERE THEY ARE AT. STOP people. Stop ABUSING Tims AWESOME biblical illiterations.
He puts his opinion above the Scripture. Even on flat earth he says "people in the past knew the earth is flat", "but they were dumb"(my interpretation from his words, didn't GOD TELL the prophets what to write in the SCRIPTURES!?!), now we have NASA deceiving us(truth)
Christian's who struggle with SSA temptations you are still going to heaven. Those who speak down on you dont understand you and that's sad but it's ok. You trusted God and are trying to live life in accordance with Gods word you believe that what Jesus says is true. SO dont wear yourself out get some sleep find people who you can trust learn about your authority in Christ if you need to get deliverance counseling and Christ centered therapy do it. I struggle with other sin and I got all of that help. Your cross is heavy and people are scared of the burden you were given but only you could handle it. You are Christian and you are loved.
Shalom All! Would be wonderful to have you consider what some Biblical scholars and historians have done in collaboration with Michael Rood and some of his colleagues at A Rood Awakening -- there have been some pivotal discoveries related to Biblical history in the last few years. aroodawakening.tv/
Tim, you're God-inspired words and perspective are simply outstanding. The Truth, wisdom delivered with respect sensitivities and kindness moved me to tears. God Bless You
As a married woman (nearly 13yrs now) I must say: yes it requires sacrifice (as does following Christ being single), but the rewards are greater than one could understand without experiencing it. It is the challenge within marriage that makes spiritual growth exponential. Every single day we are learning things together as well as separate and then share with each other. Parenthood will make you get to your knees like nothing else. Parenthood will make you understand God's (sacrificial) love for us and our relationship to Him like nothing else. There are lessons in life we can only learn through marriage and/ or parenthood. As I'm sure there are also lessons one can only learn by remaining single, which is also a sacrifice. We all have our own calling in life. But your "more realistic" portrayal of marriage I found rather pessimistic. I do appreciate you reaching out to christian singles though, for they are marginalized.
In married life we can find God if we sacrifice our desire and see God in every heart. Do little things for others builds up happiness in heart . I see single living people not every one religious very rear . that's why I believe married life is warriors life they always fight to win even they lose every day.
Jesus, Three in One God, You are magnificent. I gratefully submit to Your plan as my choice, to Your meaning of the highest human existence as my own choice.
this teaching is really good. thanks so much to Tim Mackie and the other folks who have made it available online for everyone. Just a minor point of uncertainty or possible disagreement. Tim said that Christianity is the first religion to uphold the single life as meaningful and fulfilling, but i think the buddhist monastic tradition is about 400 or 500 years older than Christianity... so that might not be true...
This is very informative and I love the humility. I would say though that when Jesus says this he's protecting the innocent both male and female because if you go to the book of Mark he also mentions if the woman divorces the husband. This is not just protecting women or just protecting men but protecting the innocent
I can’t believe I’ve lived in Portland all my life and never known about this guy. I even know people in Portland that know this guy, like one friend away, and still never knew about Tim Mackie…we should definitely share his videos with other Christians because this guy knows his stuff!
Thank you Tim for talking about this difficult topic. While I am enlightened by your teaching, I truly believe this video is brought to me by the amazing work of the Holy Spirit. Our Lord Jesus Christ will have a the most profound marriage with His bride at the end of times ❤
Fantastic talk. I wish that the prayer at the end hadn't been cut off as though it were somehow superfluous. I have a feeling that it was the crowning moment of this event for those who saw it live.
Thank you team jesus christ, we will continue to worship and be together w you with all our heart, soul & mind. Allow us to be free of any immortality or anything that stumbles our relationship w jesus christ 💚💚💚💙❤❤💜🧡🧡🧡💛🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 WE LOVE YOU, YOU ARE BLESSED & THE LORD WILL SURELY GUIDE US & KEEP US AWAY FROM TEMPTATIONS & COVETNESS 🙃🙃
This is pretty good up until the end where he says that there is no shame in being a homosexual and that God does not recognize homosexuality versus heterosexuality as one being sinful and one not being sinful. He doesn't say it explicitly but that is the implication. He fails to make the distinction between adultery vs. Fidelity polygamy versus monogamy. Obviously he thinks adultery and polygamy are wrong but he doesn't draw the same conclusion about how there is no shame in them the way he does with homosexuality. Tim needs to repent of minimizing the sin of homosexuality and equating it with singleness. It is sinful and is wrong and it is contrary to the image of God.
You really help me to have more understanding of the Bible and greater knowledge of who Jesus really is. Thank you so much. God bless you and your family. May God continue to teach you and lead you to educate and disciple other followers of Jesus.
I really love the context that Tim Mackie puts it in. This is about being human and how we have a higher calling by God. Otherwise, why not breed like rabbits and then abandon our young like sea turtles where they have to fend for themselves. Sea turtles don't lose sleep because only 4 babies out of 100 eggs made it. Imagine if human beings started thinking that way?
“But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.” II Peter 2:1-3 NKJV
@@JC-li8kk But if you listen to the context of the message, it's clear that he views the path of a gay Christian as celibacy. So he is saying there is no shame in being gay, but also that the best way for them to honor God is to live a life of singleness. When he says "gay," he is referring to being attracted to the same sex, not necessarily having gay sex or whatever.
resonating with or not resonating with what Jesus says is not the same as resonating with or not resonating with what the preacher/teacher says. They are 2 different people. It takes deeper, longer and harder searching to discover what Jesus says than 58 minutes. I heard a quote years ago: "it's amazing how much light the Bible sheds on commentaries". dig it.
Maybe that's why Jesus (with 2 S's) said Be ye Holy as I AM Holy ? Maybe we should just simply obey Him ? I liked the part where Tim explained WHY God made the 2nd Law to protect Women . That shows the True Character of God. Good teaching Tim.
Please know that my observation is NOT meant to be hateful. I love the way Tim provides context, and I think gays should be welcomed in church. However, Tim seems to be endorsing homosexuality by never mentioning that it is a sin. I hope to be wrong here, and look forward to being corrected. God bless you all!
@@erc200 Yeah, Tim twists the word over and over! Singleness is not same seex attraction and IT DOES matter to God! "Be holy as I am holy." It says the person seeking DIVORCE is the one with the "hard heart!" God's love NEVER FAILS!
I love how Tim Mackie wrestles with the text and how he insists on integrity -- that is, a refusal to make it what we may want it to be, especially when it comes to what Jesus said about the laws and practises attached to the Hebrew faith. Mr. Mackie struggles to be as clear as Jesus was with his followers and attackers -- about what God intends and institutes. We need this defining and clarifying so much. What I took away from what he said here sounds like it was faithful to Christ in every particular. First, he situates the issue "on the road" as he says (and repeats). On the road to Jesus' 'coronation' by the then world as "the king of the Jews'. This coming coronation gives what Jesus says particular authority. He knows exactly what God intended in his laws and has come to re-inaugurate it, if you like. He never makes following what Abraham began, Moses perpetuated and the prophets continued up until John the Baptist, easy or comfortable. He knows we can't follow the law -- but not only doesn't he not dispense with it -- he makes it harder! He makes us aware of the essence of the issues the law deals with -- murder/rage in our hearts/violence as a result of nurturing a grudge (like Cain), adultery, sex outside marriage in general, as about lust/possession/a kind of greed and divorce -- about the heart too -- about one man with a ''hard heart' who wants more-and-different sex and wants that to be legal. The one man/one woman rule is actually as hard, or harder, or almost as hard as not having sex at all. Regardless of not just incompatibilies etc. but the realities of sex apart from the brief moment of bliss. How women often feel when they are pregnant (uninterested in sex). How women often feel when they're nursing (uninterested in sex). What it is like to parent toddlers (neither interested in sex) and then adolescents. None of it is mostly fun. It can't be -- the reality, chemical, personal, societal is work. It's meant to be and sex only plays a pivotal/marginal role. In marriage, men have to conform to a sexual schedule that if they care about how their wife feels is not what they think -- what our culture tells them -- they've signed up for. There's going to be many dry periods because sex often leads to children. That may even be the point of it. The discussion then about eunuchs is profoundly interesting. A life without sex because sex is tied to children in the Biblical world view is an unhappy, free, lonely, fruitful, unharrassed, generous, exceptional life. No ability to have children because of how you were either made or born? No sex. The no sex thing is true both in and outside marriage and is especially hard for men. But Mr. Mackie is so right that we equate sex with happiness and I think that is because it is happiness. Desire and its fulfillment makes you happy. It also leads to inevitable unhappiness (see above) and lack of fulfillment. But the life God calls us to follow in Jesus is always going to involve sacrifice. Jesus' kingship is based (literally) on the reality of love meaning sacrifice. His throne is a cross, which is kind of like saying his throne is the electric chair. There is no way to follow Jesus and not have a life marked by giving up something central to happiness in this world. That's how love is lived in this world. I treasure how Mr. Mackie emphasises this idea of Reality in contrast with contemporary western culture. Happiness isn't why we're here. Gee I wish this were preached more consistently across our world! That's where the faith and the world part company in a major way and a way that especially in the contemporary world is basically heretical. But Jesus 'on the road' is not going to a life of personal fulfillment. he's going to his kingship as the crucified image of God. His life is about to get radically less happy! But it is a kind of consummation of the marriage he's made with humanity. This agony is also maybe an image for 'sexual' union if you like? It is called The Passion after all. Thank you Tim Mackie for making these essential points about who we are and who God is. Sorry this is so long lol... . Just so pumped about your thoughtful and faithful parsing of Jesus' teaching.
I really want opinions from Christians, whether you believe gay marriage should be legal or not. I was raised into Christianity, and still of today I am a strong believer. But ever since I was around 11 years old, I’ve been struggling with my sexuality. Middle school was the time when I fully realized that I only have attractions towards the same sex, and I tried so hard to date boys in high school but it never felt right... what I mean by that is that I never really liked any of them. and even while I was dating boys, I had genuine feelings for girls I knew and even some close friends. “You’ve just never found the right boy” no, I promise you that ever since the day I hit puberty I was never attracted to a man, not just sexually, but romantically too. So I prayed. And I prayed. I begged god, crying, on my knees to change my feelings towards women (several times, I was in a depression) because I knew that my parents would NEVER accept me and I love my parents with all my heart.... but most of all I fear going to hell....and guess what? I’m still the same. I still only experience attraction towards women, and it’s NOT a choice, I don’t know how else to explain this my Christian friends! I wanted to be heterosexual so bad back then you wouldn’t believe it ! Now, I’m a senior in high school, I still pray every morning, and I’m still a lesbian. So please don’t tell me to try conversion therapy/methods bc nearly everyone who goes through that experiences suicidal thoughts and depression. Don’t tell me to pray harder because for the last time it never worked! I believe with all my heart that god was answering my prayers by not doing anything at all. I strongly believe I was meant to be this way. So yes I can learn to suppress it, and ignore my feelings towards women, but I would never be happy... or experience true love... and I think that’s so unfair that you would this of anyone!
The attraction is the temptation not the sin. Everyone struggles with predilections towards particular sins, I too have SSA. I had to choose who I would follow, my flesh or Jesus. Once I surrendered completely to Jesus/God He gave me Peace, you won't find that in other people ever. Hetero or homosexual relationships. If you want to talk further I'm here to listen. Prayers for your journey.
Search The Last Reformation, and find their videos containing testimonies of those who were once homoesexual, yet now declare their peace and freedom! Be encouraged! There is peace for you in the gospel of Christ. ☺️ 🕊
you are who you are. Any reference to homosexuality in the Bible has to do with child sex slavery and it usually happened with boys. That’s what it’s about.
Not sure if you read this 3 years later and what you have chosen in your life. I do ask "do you fill fulfilled?". From what you wrote I believe every bit of it. Our flesh and feelings can be so complex and powerful that we let them rule us. But this is why God made us higher beings....our ability to think. We can reason and understand. It's hard at any age, but when you're young and exposed to certain things it becomes even harder. However, whatever we feel doesn't make it truth IF we choose Christ. We can't give into our flesh....which is why the scriptures speak of dying to our flesh. We are to rise above our fleshly nature. You are no different from me and my old desire to be angry at my husband. I felt strongly he deserved it...and according to my view he did. But it didn't make it right. God gave strict commands in how we are to respect each other.....just like He gives strict commands to not behave in other ways. So you must deny yourself daily. No conversion therapy. Yes, pray...but pray that God renews your mind every day and surrender your will to Jesus. One day, like someone who workouts, you'll look up and see you have a different stronger body! God bless you!
@@moon-xk8ze There are lots of struggles we go through as teens. Extremely difficult not to sin sexually with the same or opposite sex. But I beg you to look at the bigger picture. Once you go down that path you will struggle 1,000x more the rest of your life. Think of it like heroine or cocaine. The only way to not get extremely addicted is to never do it. You may have some difficulty resisting temptation now, but it’s nothing compared to AFTER experiencing with it. Hope this helps. The sins I don’t struggle with at all right now are the ones I NEVER GAVE INTO ONCE.
(1 Corinthians 7:32, 33), "He that is unmarried is careful for the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord; but he that is married is careful for the things of the world, how he may please his wife"
That passage is not saying people are born gay. People are born with no sexual desire. People can get it cut off .or they can choose celibacy. Sex is a choice. Who are what you have sex with is a choice. And choices have consequences whether it be good or bad. If you can't control your sexual urges get married to the opposite sex or don't get married. Whatever you decide is your decision we as Christian's should love you no matter what you decide. If we choose to tell you you're wrong. We are to do it with love. Only God can deal the consequences.
I'm a bit stuck on a statement he makes around the 12:00 mark, which when paraphrased sounds like this: "God gave Israel these laws to set them apart from their ancient neighbors. And these laws don't represent His moral ideal, but rather they represent Him working with Israel as He found them, after centuries of slavery in Egypt." I know he was talking about the practice of polygamy in the context of what he's saying, but to me, that statement is a bit worrying for me to make, since Tim here is claiming that God making this law is not from a place of absolute authority but rather from bending to what Israel wants. Idk, maybe I'm reading a bit too much into this statement, and I do genuinely love many of the points Tim is making here, but that one statement kinda rubbed me the wrong way if that makes sense. I am open to having a conversation about this, to whomever wants to reply to my comment. Thank you, and God bless you all.
Something that tends to happen to Tim is that people assume he's saying something he didn't. I also see it often on TBP videos. The reason is (I think), he is extremely academic, even when he's talking to the general public. So he takes the issue in question and isolates it and talks about the correlation of one thing with the other, leaving other matters on the side. This doesn't mean that other variables don't correlate with the the main subject, he's just not talking about them.
This is the first video of his that I have watched, but to me the problem is that he didn't read the Matthew 19 accurately since the divorce would have to be for fornication during the betrothal period (like Joseph considered for Mary), and then if he had just simply given the passages of the gospels of Mark 10 and Luke 16, it says there is no allowance for any remarriage. John the Baptist also taught this and was beheaded for it. Way too much time was spent on OT when Jesus came to teach that we are not under the Mosaic Law, but under HIS commands in the Law of Christ. Only one man to only one woman for life, and he should have warned all single people not to even consider marrying a divorced person with a living spouse. I have a playlist of over 140 videos about divorce and remarriage adultery, but his teaching is just not clear.
Brother Tim thanks so much for reaching to your greatest ability. Just so appreciate you brother. You are a remarkable teacher and thats only been proven by your work with the Bible Project also. Thanking God for you!
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Thanks to Alan Ritchson who shares his faith courageously on social media! I found this sermon only because of you 😇
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I found this through Alan Ritchson’s UA-cam channel and I am grateful and humbled by you shining the light on our faith. Keep up the great work and know you’re making an impact. God Bless 🙏❤️✝️
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Same.
Yeah, Tim twists the word over and over!
Singleness is not same seex attraction and IT DOES matter to God! "Be holy as I am holy."
It says the person seeking DIVORCE is the one with the "hard heart!" God's love NEVER FAILS!
Hi all. After reading all of the comments, I realize people can listen to the same thing and understand it completely differently. But here's what I understand from Tim's fabulous message: Sex is only meant to happen in a marital relationship between a man and a woman. No other form of sex is condoned by the Bible or by Tim. I don't know how anyone thought Tim was okay with other forms of sex. The only thing he says about people who are not straight is that they should lead a life of celibacy, devoted to the kingdom. The same way straight people can be celibate and devoted to the kingdom. That's the essence of that passage.
Thanks, Tim, for opening my eyes to lots of things that I would have never discerned on my own. You are awesome :) God bless you!
THANK YOU!
The problems:
1. Gay people can't choose whether to be celibate or not. They are condemned by this book to be alone. You used the euphemism of "devoted to the kingdom". How would that look like? Those who say gay people need to be celibate, go aheadand be an example of that loneliness.
2. Epidemiological studies absolutely disagree with the bible's opinion. Physical intimacy is the most important predictor for depression, anxiety, heart disease and suicide. This "celibacy" thing might seem funny to you and you might feel righteous when you tell people how to live their lives, but this has major consequences.
Rethink your position.
It’s not even illegal to cheat on your spouse anymore. Just because something is considered acceptable by modern society,don’t think for one second that God had changed His mind because of sinful man doing so. This is not a call to think you (if heterosexuals) are “better” than homosexuals. We are all sinners. The problem comes when we try and justify our sin, because we love it so much. NO ONE is saying resisting our natural sinful nature is easy...in fact it’s downright impossible without the Holy Spirit. You can be a kleptomaniac,serial liar,have Tourette’s that has you taking the Lords name in vain,etc....all these things are clearly a mental issue. That’s not meant to be said “these people are evil,and we are above them!” It’s simply an understanding of legitimate issues/circumstances that everyday people struggle with because of SINFUL NATURE. It’s up to them to find God and his mercy in the end,no matter what anyone else thinks about what they do being right or wrong.
Feat. Cicero there are plenty of straight Christians who choose to be celibate for whatever reasons they may have. They may feel God has called them to it, even if they do not want to. In this sense, they can’t choose either. It is possible to live a fulfilled life without sex and marriage. Both marriage and celibacy require sacrifices and offer good things to us too. As a single straight woman, of course I find the loneliness you mention really difficult sometimes, but I know this is what God is calling me to, at least for now. And I appreciate the upsides of singleness that I wouldn’t have as a married person. Community IS essential to being a healthy human. The Bible says so at the beginning. We need other humans around us, loving and supporting us, but we do not NEED sex. Sex is the most intimate way you can know another human, but we can and should aim to know God even better than this. It is totally possible - in fact, it is His design. Sex is a pointer to what it means to be human - to know and love God. But it itself is not the meaning. This is such a painful and intense situation for many, straight or gay. But God has reached me so deeply in this time of singleness. I’ve learnt to trust Him more and love Him more than before, and I know He is making something far more beautiful out of my life than I could ever do on my own.
@@feat.cicero4638 What??? Can't chose to be celibate or not? Of course they can chose to be celibate. It is their choice? Another choice is to not be celibate and marry someone of the opposite sex. The third choice is to live a sinful life and be intimate with someone of the same sex. It should be obvious to all Christians at that point that the person is living sinfully. The scripture is crystal clear on it. Also note that Jesus said if you lust after someone you sin. We all do this. We are all sinners. Just don't try to call it OK.
I cried watching this video. I am same sex attracted. I've been involving in homosexuality since as early as I was 12, or 13. I did this act so often that I was too used to it to think another way. I identified myself as a gay man and even paraded my sexual orientation (wearing makeup, associating with other gay men, and enjoying promiscuity). But all those things never quenched my thirst for love, care, affection, protection, attention and recognition. This kind of sexual behavior left me with shame and a feeling of deficiency. But then the desire came back and I fell into the same pit over and over again. When I first believed in Jesus I was given the strength to say no to my unwholesome thoughts and desires but I still struggled with the idea of having to get married to please God. I read this passage about Jesus mentioning eunuchs before but did not really understand the meaning until I heard you explain it. Thank you. May God's blessing be with you always.
Phan Quân homosexuality is explicitly condemned from Genesis to Revelation, and homosexuals will not be saved, please repent.
I think if the fulfillment of desire -- even if it is only momentarily -- didn't give that burst of bliss, it would have been easier to see clearly a long time ago, both for same-sex attracted and for straight. The straight world have it easier b/c, if we get married and have sex we often also have children and then as I've said elsewhere, sex is often severely restricted. Marriage isn't, is not, is not, is not about unlimited amounts of 'safe' sex. It's about additional sacrifices and additional limits on sex and on 'bliss' in general. There's so much distortion in our idea of what our lives are expected/supposed to be in western culture that it is no wonder you, in particular, and many, maybe even most, in general get terribly confused. But it is a confusion we also perpetuate because it seems to promise unlimited amounts of fulfillment and joy. It is only when this doesn't happen that we begin to clear the fog away from the reality of sex. Yes, joy -- yes agony -- yes work and sacrifice and loneliness, in or outside marriage. I don't think of the American dream as a dream anymore. I think of it as the collective global American Fantasy which Reality always demolishes. But meaning? A meaningful life, ah that brings a sense of fulfillment rarely equaled by the simple good luck of getting what you want (I mean 'you' here in the broad sense of everyone). To be born a eunuch means -- you're no different than Jesus if you give up on sex/family/marriage. That's not such a shabby identity.
Jay -- where does it condemn the person for existing as a homosexual? Where does it condemn them for being friends with other homosexuals. The Bible condemns same sex sexual activity just as it condemn opposite sex sexual activity that is outside of marriage. Where does it condemn individuals who have a same sex attraction who simply use the term homosexual or gay? It says a whole lot on the other person for assuming they know someone’s sexual activity simply because someone states their homosexual.
Ignore Jay you trusted Jesus and gave up an old life for a new life. I'll see you in heaven brother. God is not a cruel God and he will more than make away for you. Like he has made a way for me. You have to trust in the Holy Spirit that Jesus has bought for you with his blood. People are scared and dont trust him but he called you and you answered, YOU will be fine.
oh and thanks for sharing this, it took courage. I can well understand how you'd struggle with the idea of marriage -- of course you wouldn't want to. Good to know that Jesus wasn't married and had to endure what he did -- alone. Marriage isn't everything by a long shot.
Thanks our Reacher ( Alan Rithchson),for sharing the link to this insightful sermon.
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I am single and plan on staying that way until God leads somebody to me. And I plan on saving myself for whoever God places in my life. I have to honor God with my body and my soul
And Your Spirit which are Gods , You have been bought with a price , the precious blood of Jesus !
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Why not be Gay or Bisexual (homosexuality)? According to this teaching it is accepted under Jesus' teaching. What about the scripture that ALL scripture is given for doctrine, reproof and correction? Doesn't the NT teach that homosexuality is a sin? Is that not part of the scripture that WE a Christians under NT law are to abide by? There is ulterior motive in this teaching... Gay is OK
As a child of God my belief is , homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord. I can not support that lifestyle nor will I . But at the same time as his child I must love and pray for those who do choose this lifestyle. God is about love not hate. I will not be cruel or mean to those who live in that life. I will pray for them God opens their eyes to the way, truth and light. I have my own sins I am working on. So who am I to condemn any soul? I need Jesus every day of my life.I don't walk on water.My savior does.He has shown me mercy on so many levels and so many times.Without him I am nothing.With him I have everything I need including eternal life.
I have been married for 40 years. The last 20 I have been sober and saved. The dichotomy between the first 20 and second is explained by Tim in this lesson. Saved by Grace.
Bless you and your spouse!
You should write a book and title it Sober and Saved How The Amazing Grace of God saved me and my marriage! Just a thought from the Holy Spirit 🤷🏾♀️✝️❤️
thank you tim! 33 1/2, single, alive, and in love with Christ.. thank you so much.
Ultra Fice join the club 💝🙏👍🏽✝️✝️💓💓✝️😍💓✝️💓😂😂34 & Single happier than I ever
Being 😆 my heart is safe place now with one willing to die for ✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️❤️❤️
Loving Christ and longing for His appearing- Born again at age 45, 37 years in a covenant marriage though divorced for 11 years. The innocent spouse deserted by her husband and divorced against her will is still married in God's eyes until death do you part. A vow is a vow. We singles are really very blessed to have a much deeper personal relationship with Jesus Christ and to hear the voice of the Lord. Revelation 3:10-11.
I call Jesus my husband!
@@tv4tvinc.330 So does Paul!!!
Married life is warriors life they always fight to win even they lose every day single living is dirty living like still water gets dirty day by day according to religious.husband's house wife's real house she is real queen in that house. Divorce doesn't allowed in religious.wife's karma belongs to Husband's family .changing relationships men and women lose their beauty. Changing relationships having loads of stress on brain. Mistakes happened just forgive yourself and others builds up happiness in heart and soul coprate with love. Family is blessing. Family teaches us how to behave each others. Family teaches us how to tolerate each others. Family teaches us how to forgive each others. Living alone is ok for while but never right whole life one spiritual person said.
This is the best sermon I've seen on what Jesus teaches us about marriage and sex. Thank you Tim for your teaching and putting so much thought into wrestling with tough topics
Just something about what our brother here says that struck me. He had just finished the doctrine and rather than the attitude of,"now this is the law now walk you in it", he humbly says "this would start the conversation but be nice to each other. This did something for me. It shows me the mentality that all of the teaching the purpose is to make us better at loving each other or better yet striving with God's help to achieve closer grades of that ideal daily. This is not religion's attitude. It is not a cold closed-circuit "I'm- keeping-all-of-God's-rules" mentality.
Jason, I caught that comment at the very end by Tim too and interpreted it exactly as you describe.
I thank God for Tim Mackie, he has helped me so much in my walk with God and offers so much wisdom and comfort without compromising truth. Amen!
I am continuously floored by Tim's amazing ability to bring across the teachings of Jesus. Floored. Wow!!
Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Jesus did NOT say straight or gay!
He twisted scripture to fit his agenda.
The rest of his message I agree with,
But that is how the enemy deceives, a lie surrounded with mostly truth.
@@DEWorDEWnot He said there are beautiful humans, who are deeply flawed, made in the image of God. He didn't quote galatians and add anything, he was simply speaking truth. we all have flaws, and someone who's gay isn't more flawed than others, it's just a sin that person struggles with, but they are called to repentance by Jesus. Don't be quick to judge something without seeing why it was said brother. We all sin every day, and it's easy to point out someone else's sin before our own. God bless you, I hope you receive what I've said with gentleness, I don't mean anything to come off as rude. Have a wonderful day.
@@damasrion9192wrong
@@DEWorDEWnotyou are absolutely right, I'm tired of people applauding him for speaking something that isn't in scripture
The Gospel of Matthew is my favorite part of the Bible, the wisdom of Jesus is so profound and so simply stated here, in a straightforward manner.
Both exegetically and pastrorally, Pastor Tim nails this. Would that every pastor in our polarized and addled nation could walk the same line balancing truth, wisdom and compassion. We wouldn't be so divided and confused.
Agreed.
7 But I wish everyone were single, just as I am. Yet each person has a special gift from God, of one kind or another.
8 So I say to those who aren’t married and to widows-it’s better to stay unmarried, just as I am. 9 But if they can’t control themselves, they should go ahead and marry. It’s better to marry than to burn with lust.
10 But for those who are married, I have a command that comes not from me, but from the Lord.A wife must not leave her husband. 11 But if she does leave him, let her remain single or else be reconciled to him. And the husband must not leave his wife. 1 Corinthians 7
Sadly, this particular teaching is an exegetical embarrassment and a pastoral license to justify and condone divorce and remarriage of those God has joined together.
The Old Testament criticizes and prohibits polygyny, which is the opposite of this presentation. The Old Testament also teaches lifelong and till death marriage: '[if] she is his women, he may not divorce her all of his days' (Deut. 22) and 'you shall not take a woman [woman 2] to her sister [woman 1] [Hebrew idiom for one thing next to another, never means biological sisters] to impinge upon her during her life.' (Lev. 18:18) i.e. if you have woman 1, and she is lawfully your woman, you may neither divorce her, all of your days, nor add a second wife all of the first woman's life. That is lifelong monogamy.
Ex. 21 has nothing to do with polygamy or divorce, since the woman goes out as unmarried as when she came in.
Deut. 24:1-4 is about the divorce during the betrothal stage before the marriage becomes permanent and unconditional.
The Lord affirmed lifelong marriage and the restriction on divorce to the porneia case of Deut 22:13-21
That is the most profound and brave thing I have ever heard about Jesus, sex, marriage, and our culture. Thank you, Tim. And thank you Jesus for bringing me this incredibly important message
The state marriage license churches require to marry couples abrogates marriage vows and makes divorce no fault by state statutes . Does Tim's church require marriage licenses and no fault divorce laws?
@Drake Joseph unoriginal troll.
@Drake Joseph what in the world
I've been struggling in relationship with my husband (not his fault, I've changed), asking God to teach me how to be in this relationship. I'd like to run away. My husband is not a believer and at times his behaviour is troubling, BUT I can see how this relationship is a reflection of my relationship with God. I can be very displeasing to Him and yet, he stays and hopes that I will stay in covenant with Him and by doing so, I will become more like Jesus. Even through my spiritually adulterous behaviour, He stays and hopes and works. I pray for His patience, his will in this human relationship - this mirror of my life with God.
Wow Amazing words. Keep going Holy Spirit will give you straight. The Saint wife will santify the husband. Do not think that if my husband Lopes the Lord my life is going to be easy. Marriage is to be holy, not happy or easy.
I’m sorry you’re enduring this hardship. I pray for your husband and your marriage that you both find a deeper love than you thought possible. And that your husband recognizes that the depth can be found in Christ, alone. May He sustain you, and all of the pieces in your heart
You can hear it in his voice how much this means to him. It must hit home some how. I thank our Lord and savior Jesus Christ the Messiah for giving Tim the strength and courage to cover such a hot topic. I hope he is led to do more troubled topics.
It's actually a simple topic to go over. As long as the Christian is Holy Spirit filled and not defeated by the sin of man pleaseing cowardice than we all can take 2 minutes to share with whoever will hear these truths.
Because he's probably gay
Tim, I love your teachings! Jesus makes it so simple, and he even warns us, this simplicity will still not be heard or accepted. He warns us twice!
This man has the Spirit of God. Patience loving etc has all been conveyed through such a wise understanding. I’ve never thought of these things!
This is not the spirit of God, more likely the spirit of the devil because God clearly states that homosexuality is a sin and marriage is ordained by Christ.
The bible says that he who finds a wife, finds a good thing. As followers of Christ we must not put our trust in man but in God and his word.
This man has the spirit of God? He teaches homosexuality
I was wondering why he was so nervous. I see now. None of the claims here are true. He taught that marriage as biblically taught is between man and a woman and there are people who are called to singleness including people who are born as eunuchs…it’s just the scriptures. We have been obsessed (evangelicals) with marriage and h to e family as an end goal and it has become an idol. We have been obsessed (conservatives) with homosexuality instead of honoring all who are called to not marry regardless of sexual orientation. We have become obsessed with sex and sexual pleasure…he is t taking any sides here. It’s all the narrow road.
Book of John says The laws are supplied by Moses but grace and truth by Jesus Christ.
@michaelspirito1471 I heard him say homosexuals should stay abstinent. Did you hear something else?
Praise Jesus for your Heart Pastor Tim Mackie. The Holy Spirit is really leading you to be bold and courageous to show your love for Jesus and what the Bible is really telling us. I am slowly seeing the truth. thank you.
Tim this is the first time of me hearing you. You have something in your heart that I want more of. You are also well spoken and you know what you're talking about. Thank you for speaking courageously, God bless you.
Tim's explanations are in no way "inadequate". God's Word and Jesus' explanations are wholly adequate, whether I like it or not. I agree with everything Jesus says.
BTW This is profound and beautiful. Tim Mackie is a gifted theologian.
As a Father with a Wife I can so vouch for what he said.Relationship and Children’s are taking almost everything you got leaving little to no time or energy for anything else.
That is your Godly image of humanity, embrace it. Your example of Godly love. God created Adam and said it wasnt good for him to be alone, and God created Eve and they became one in a marriage covenant. Its true that children came after the fall and are born in sorrow, but through sorrow we can see what is good and children are given to us to help us be more aware of others and less of ourselves. That is my thoughts.
We love you Dr Tim Mackie!Incredible ambassador and expositor of the gospel! 💛
Beautiful. Hard pill to swallow but I feel you’ve nailed it! I originally misjudged you as I thought you were going to send a message that perverts the gospel, but instead I found one very brave preacher willing to lovingly tackle issues that are incredibly hard to discuss.. yet are still at the forefront of our culture.
why would you think he would pervert the gospel? that's so rude
@@lilmissamberr no idea anymore. Who knows what I was thinking two years ago
@@lilmissamberr that's right now I think I remember. If I'm not mistaken, I was trying to say I may have misjudged this teacher. I should have spoken more carefully. My first impression was that he would have taught something where a modern feminist ideology comes first to appease the masses and the bible takes the back seat or possibly is twisted to fit the narrative. Something like that. If this is the video I'm thinking of, I might have said this because I was impressed with how lovingly he tries to gently steer his sheep toward a better acceptance of Gods word. I think I said the last part because I believe he is trying to reach people who may be used to a lot of rejection and it was cool to see the way he reaches people with a lot of loving patience and kindness... hope that helps clarify. I'm learning to do the same a little at a time and still growing in faith myself. Actually got a long way go go lol. God bless you
@@donaldobama8799 ayy I know exactly how you feel lmao. I've been disappointed to see people take scripture and just fit them wherever is convenient so that no one is offended. And yeah, 'gentle' is a great way to describe Tim. God bless you too!
@@lilmissamberr...it's OK to question a teacher of the gospel..as long as it's biblical..in this day and age...the Bible is twisted to meet man's needs...we need truth. God's word is truth...even though we might not like it at times...it's God breathed 🙏..it's good for instruction. GOD BLESS
I watch ur videos constantly....I'm so grateful for u. because of ur love for the bible I now find myself in love with the bible and wanting to learn everything I can. and the manner in which u tackled this teaching is admirable....very real and honest and respectful. it's so obvious that ur a compassionate and loving human being. you spoke the word through ur uncomfortableness and nervousness and that's awesome!
You are sweet thank you for sharing
Tim you yourself and the Bible Project do an excellent job at explaining and painting a picture for your audience to have a better understanding of Gods Word. I don’t know if your nerves got the best of you, but you left many really lost on homosexuality, love your gay neighbor, it’s ok to be gay just don’t have sex, Jesus loves gay people… Your audience straight/gay need you to paint a clearer picture. Your a great caring and loving teacher. I’ve never questioned any of your teachings, but this one you have left many very lost and confused. I realize this was done 6 years ago, but it would be wonderful if you came back to this topic and straightened it out for all of us. Thank you!
Would that I had the courage this man displays. To preach on this topic in the midst of the current cultural climate is a testament to the level of boldness the Spirit can grant a person.
How bold is he really, he teaches its OK to be gay and serve Jesus when the Lord clearly says its an abomination to him.
I'm years behind listening to this sermon. I love the way Tim digs in to Scripture and preaches in a way that's exegetical and engaging. Reminds me of Rob Bell before he became more of a universalist. I think Tim treaded carefully and well along the "gay" topic. I do struggle with Matthew 19.12 talking specifically about someone who is gay. Seems like it could also be someone who doesn't have a sex drive and certainly these people exist and are not gay. Regardless, I don't necessarily have an issue with people being "born" gay in the same way that I don't have an issue with people being born prone to alcoholism, or other addictions. What's important is that they/we fight sin (even though we may fail at times) and not just settle and say, "I guess God made me like this, might as well give in." You can't read into this passage (Matthew 19) too much but it seems to support the idea that the eunuch, born this way, has no sexual desire...one way or another. Rambling...sorry. Interesting.
I did not understand what he meant by that, I wrote a comment, can you tell me if I understood what he was saying correctly?
@@arod88What’s your question?
I constantly return to this sermon to remind myself of its beauty and power, I am so grateful for it. It has helped me to understand so much! Thank you!
Too bad they become progressive christians by compromising the biblical teaching about sin of homosexuality.
@@letter5330 did you listen to all of it? It IS faithful to the truth!
@@marklambert5232 Even their explanation about hell.
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What an incredible teaching. Thank you for your commitment to unpacking the scriptures in their entirety as Jesus himself would have taught them.
Been listening to Tim for years, and admire his commitment to God’s word and courage to teach it in humility and love. Truly among his best. 💙
Thank you, Tim. This is so clear when you exposit it. You are God's gift to me.
Thank you so much for this great message of hope to a lifelong single human here who has struggled to fit in with most Christian groups or churches. Such Amazing hope in this text.
Tim Mackie - so brave to minister in Portland, OR! May God keep watch over him!
Listening to this in 2023 where society's confusion has gone ballistic. It is now ok for students can identify as a cat. Let alone male or female. Jesus' answer is so simple. Not Tim's best. His teaching is diluted by the world's teaching on gender.
Thank you Tim SO much for this sermon. Such an important message to hear. The courage and strength it took for you to stand up there and teach that is amazing. I pray it will speak to many people's hearts and minds and give them pause and that they will choose to listen to God's truth. Thank you!
HALLELUYAH!!!
Shalom All! Would be wonderful to have you consider what some Biblical scholars and historians have done in collaboration with Michael Rood and some of his colleagues at A Rood Awakening -- there have been some pivotal discoveries related to Biblical history in the last few years. aroodawakening.tv/
34:55
“…These laws in the Torah, you can’t just assume when you’re reading a law that you’re reading God’s ideal moral vision for human life. The purpose of the law is He found Israel as He found them, and He’s working with Israel in their ancient context and fallen state to push them toward GREATER justice.”
This really assists in responding to so many laws from old who’s specificities distract from the 10 today.
what do you mean by "the 10 today?"
I am not Christian but I would give Jesus the same grace I would give any moral god. Aspects of this resonated well with me, I appreciate the logical approach.
I appreciate Tim's graciousness and tact as he navigates the topic of gender. I don't know why but as an LGBTQ person, I feel discouraged after watching this message. What I am getting from what Tim said is that us LGBTQs should just live a life of no sex and no marriage as another form of upholding the image of God, apart from being heterosexually married. That removes from us the right and the fruits of forming a loving, covenant relationship with someone we love. Aren't we capable of loving just because we are the metaphorical eunuchs?
I've been following Bible Project for quite some time and it really felt like it's a community of worship where I can belong. But after hearing this from Tim there's a part in my heart that's hurting. I don't know, but what I know of is that finding a worship community as LGBTQs is a difficult, hurtful journey. I hope I can find it. God will provide the way.
What do you think I should do next?
Why do you think you have a right to form a covenant relationship? If God calls me to lifelong abstinence, then how do I have that right apart from God? I have no life or rights apart from that which the Lord has gifted me. I am thankful to God that I have anything at all. Yes, you are capable of loving, because love is not primarily sexual. God has no inherent physical form, and God is the source of all love. Sexual practice within the marriage covenant between male and female was created by God to be one way of expressing the love of God. There are many other ways to love, otherwise Jesus, the Son of God, did not love because Jesus never married. I know you may not like this, but our feelings can lead us astray. Mine have led me to dark places. God is the front of our train, then reason, then will, and feelings or emotions need to know where they belong. They belong in the back of the train being guided by God, reason, and will. They are not deleted, but given their proper place. I respect and love you as an image of God, and it is through this comment I am expressing it. I pray God teaches myself and others how to love and what love looks like, because we all need God to raise us in wisdom, justice, truth, and love.
@@ChristFollower00 Thank you as well for your graciousness. There’s so much to grasp from what you wrote here, but what I am getting from it is that God is calling LGBTs for lifelong abstinence and practice the love that Jesus is teaching us; such love is beyond the sexual activity meant for married heterosexuals.
The world is filled with straight people living their life-getting married, getting joint investments, building families with ease, enjoying the privileges that the world gave them because they’re straight-while us LGBTs are left in the margins, often doubting that our existence matter, because institutions like states and churches have long been making us feel unwelcome. Whyyyyyy is it so hard for us to find our spiritual home? Why does it have to be harder for us LGBTs? Do you think repressing sexual desire is easy, when we see straight people every single day enjoying their life in the world which they designed for themselves? Do you think LGBTs shouldn’t fight for a piece of that world?
@@aemanllantada4273 I am rereading what I wrote, and have realized in hindsight that my comment could easily be unclear or confrontational. This was not my intention, rather I noticed your post was more recent and I wanted you to know that God sees you and cares about you (hopefully through my response). You correctly understood what I was trying to faithfully relate to you from scripture and study. I do not know if you are a follower of the Messiah (Jesus of Nazareth) or not, and so my dialogue will reflect this. A couple words of caution here.:
First, is that looking at the world for good and evil/right and wrong is a "recipe for disaster" to use a common phrase. If what Jesus and His followers have said and written is true, then following the world intensify our spiritual blindness (blind leading the blind). The privileges the world seems to have given people are not what we need to be focused on as they are temporary and fleeting. Followers of Jesus trust that His Kingdom is already partially here through the Church (All true followers of the Messiah, Jesus). These followers of Jesus are tasked with living out the commands and teachings of their Messiah because they believe that He is one member of the triune God (Jesus, God the Son). We are to do everything in our power to welcome people who desire to experience what God is doing through the Church, and hopefully non-believers trust in the Lord because the Holy Spirit uses our faithful witness. The Church must also work against moral vices and crimes in love and for justice. The Church is then ridiculed (sometimes much worse) for its devotion to a righteous and loving God. I apologize for any unjust treatment from the Church and ask you to look at what God teaches through the Old and New Testament, especially through Jesus of Nazareth. We still fail to live loving and just lives as our Lord did, but we are works in progress.
Second, it is important to remember that everyone will have to sacrifice what they think defines them when following Jesus. God does not demand we make ourselves good to approach Him, but rather after we begin to rely on Him God begins making us into who we were always made to be. God is tearing out things I thought essential to myself, and it is excruciatingly painful. I have struggled with lustful pre-marital sexual desires and behaviors too. I understand the struggle seems impossible, but remember that if we are followers of Jesus, then God has promised to give us a way to escape and endure these temptations. Humankind was never meant to find its identity in anyone or anything other than God. We have the great gift from God to be forgiven of our moral crimes and vices, being remade into who humankind was always made to be. We have all committed capital offenses (using legal terms) deserving of eternal punishment from a holy, just, and loving God. Thankfully, God loves us and has come in Jesus to bear the punishment we all deserved. Jesus took our evil to the cross, and suffered much worse than any temptation we struggle with now. Jesus is the Son who had been in eternal love and justice with the Father and Holy Spirit before creation. This means He is the only one who could bear the enormous punishment all of humanity deserved, and come out the other side victorious. It is much worse than mere torture on the cross, which is still horrendous to think about since humanity murdered their loving and just Creator. The death we deserve is not solely physical, but it is primarily spiritual/relational. Humanity deserved eternal exile from the conscious presence of God, God's love, and fellowship with God. Jesus experienced this separation from God during His sacrifice. The Father and Spirit veiled their presence from our Savior, and Jesus felt alone for the first time ever. The eternal fellowship He belonged to became obscured. The Son did not stop being one person of the triune God, but rather the Son lost all the experience and benefits of God's love and was left with the justice of God directed towards sin. Think about this when you feel alone and unloved. The triune God of the Universe loved you and every other human enough to create this world, knowing that we would rebel against Him. God knew that He could pardon us from our crimes and save us, but it required that God take the punishment on Godself. God suffered immeasurable torture and torment in our place, and rose victoriously from the dead. This was to show us what any who trust in Jesus are to become.
The LGBTQ+ community has not been forgotten or despised by God. God knows them and every other person fully. God came through Jesus of Nazareth to redeem all humanity that comes to Him. God will be faithful to strengthen all those who lean on Him. It may take months, years, or all of our time on earth, but if we follow Jesus until the end, then eternity will make our current struggles seem incredibly small. As those who lean on the work of Jesus are declared innocent due to accepting the divine pardon and made innocent through divine purification, they enter into God's eternal bliss, fellowship, justice, and love. This is God's Kingdom, where God wipes our tears away personally, and there will be no desire nor reason to sin (so no sin at all). God respects the choice of those who reject His offer of pardon and eternal life with Him. They remain in their guilt for their crimes. God cannot destroy those made in His image, and so they are quarantined forever away from the fullness of God, and are left only with His just judgment known to them. This is God's offer to everyone who will accept it: grace, pardon, moral transformation, and eternity with the triune God: Father, Son, Holy Spirit. God loves you and is helping myself and the Church to love like He does. You can friend me on Facebook under the same name you see here if you want to talk more. God's blessings upon you Aeman Llantada.
I was really encouraged seeing your comment among many others that were very discouraging.. i am not a part of the LGBTQ+ community, but I personally really struggle with the Church's view on marriage and sex outside of heterosexual relationships. I don't have answers for you, because I am looking for the same answers, but I wanted to encourage you to keep asking questions and to keep learning. I think growing closer to God is the best thing we can do for our doubts - he is the only one who knows the absolute truth. Like Tim said, any human explanation or understanding is inherently flawed and incomplete.
@@faithrineer2538 Keep asking your questions and struggling with God. I merely encourage you to never reject the Lord, even if God gives you answers you do not like. I have struggled with God on many things, and still am. While I agree that the Church and people in general have been wrong before, we do get things right sometimes. The same God who calls me, you, and everyone else to deny themselves, pick up their cross, and follow Him; is the God who took our punishment and forgives us. Whatever we struggle with, seek God, and God will help you see important truth clearly. God bless and enjoy Easter, the death and resurrection of Jesus are in view.
This covers in the Words of Jesus all we need to know about all things related to not just divorce, but sexuality, etc.
So far, (i am working through this whole channel from the beginning), the way this marriage and divorce discussion goes, it makes you dig down and be completely honest with yourself. It brings you thru the hard discussion and face to face with facts. While marriage can be beautiful between a man and woman who meet and agree wholeheartedly to live life together as one, it isn't meant for everyone. Just like grains of sand on the beach, everyone will have a different experience. Never marrying or divorcing/remarrying several times does not strike you out of the kingdom of heaven. It is how you gracefully handle your unique presented opportunities and keep your eyes on God at all times and in all things and in all places. Amen.
56:00 makes it clear that Jesus said marriage is between a man and a woman
Tim said many times that being gay was ok and acceptable. This is so strange. I’m done watching the Bible project
AMEN!🦋 MR. TIM IS GOING TO LEAD PEOPLE TO HELL FROM THAT ONE LIE HE TOLD.
Jesus is God and made it clear marraige is between man and woman. I bet tim wont mention romans 1 or 1st corinthians 6:9-11. Thats why sodom and gomorahh was destroyed hauhtyness means pride meaning in that case gay pride thats why he got lot out of there and gay dudes wanted to do it with the angels and they angels smacked them with light to blind them.
Tim is twisting the scripture about "hard heart" too! It says the person seeking DIVORCE is the one with the "hard heart!" God's love NEVER FAILS!
Adding "no gay or straight" to that Bible verse is both accurate to the heart of Scripture (in that we all must deny our divisions and "identities" apart from Christ), but also shows a major flaw in thinking (that you can retain a sinful identity and yet still be a Christian) and reveals and underlying motive that this sermon, though the earlier parts were founded on truth, was crafted to sneak in at the last moment.
What an exceexcellent talk on a very touchy subject. He brought up many points that most people miss entirely. And he concludes it with something that only true men with saintly qualities would know or realize...Thankyou Mr Mackie.
Tim you're great scholar of the Bible, but a consistent life of prayer is also important to bring you closer to God's truth and love . Remember Acts 4:6, please do not neglect the ministry of prayer 🙏🏾.
Tim, youre a blessing to Kingdom of God, i have never come across to a Wise teacher as you are. greetings
So thankful for how Tim Make always gets to the heart of the matter, and reveals the heart/image of Our Creator, through thoughtfully exploring the context of scripture
You are the guy from the Bible Project! Am glad I found this... I will subscribe and camp out here and learn. God bless
Danny J yooo he is!!!! I’m so hype now!
no one listen to this guy Homosexual sex is a behavior, and not an identity. We all have desires to behave outside of the will of God,
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HALLELUYAH!!!
Shalom All! Would be wonderful to have you consider what some Biblical scholars and historians have done in collaboration with Michael Rood and some of his colleagues at A Rood Awakening -- there have been some pivotal discoveries related to Biblical history in the last few years. aroodawakening.tv/
@@chikennoruka72 I don't know Man. . . You sound pretty gay to me . . . 🤣
Thank you so much for your sharing God's word using the entire scriptures in context and for helping me understand so much better this passage.
"For among them are those who enter into households and captivate weak women weighed down with sins, led on by various impulses, always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." - 2 Tim 3:6-7
You shall know them by their fruit. Reprobate concerning the faith.
Awesome teaching! Handles hard topics so well, so much revelation in this sermon. Really helps people to reconnect to God, and realise we need to come out of the world and its teachings on society, of whats right or wrong, or how we should live. We need to follow Jesus instead, the creator of all things. He is our guide, he is the way, the truth, and the life.
It’s a gift to honor the words of the message without agenda or denominational bias and then share it in simple words and context that people can relate to.
Tim has clearly made himself an available tool in the hand of God.
Isaiah 5:20 - Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
For what purpose did you comment this?
@@withlessAsbestosthere are countless heresy hunters who see Tim Mackie as the GREAT WHITE WHALE to their Ahab and think he’s the worst thing to happen to Christianity lately.
Which is ironic..
@@withlessAsbestosYeah, people are trying to "Catch" Tim slipping up or affirming sexual identities so they can call him a false teacher.
He's one of the FEW that actually MAKE SENSE.
all those who are CHASING DOWN TIM.
Either STOP. He is our Brother in Christ.
Or be specific.
He lives in PORTLAND THE STRONGHOLD OF THE LEFT.
So he is very careful about these things. Not because he is ashamed, but because he WANTS TO MEET PORTLANDERS WHERE THEY ARE AT.
STOP people.
Stop ABUSING Tims AWESOME biblical illiterations.
He puts his opinion above the Scripture. Even on flat earth he says "people in the past knew the earth is flat", "but they were dumb"(my interpretation from his words, didn't GOD TELL the prophets what to write in the SCRIPTURES!?!), now we have NASA deceiving us(truth)
I don't understand that either Tim is as authentic as any pastor I have heard. Sometimes we need to question these heresy hunters
Thank you f;r this illuminating explanation pf these passages. It’s very helpful and grounding.
I love how this guy presumes to know why the Most High gave his commandments.
Christian's who struggle with SSA temptations you are still going to heaven. Those who speak down on you dont understand you and that's sad but it's ok. You trusted God and are trying to live life in accordance with Gods word you believe that what Jesus says is true. SO dont wear yourself out get some sleep find people who you can trust learn about your authority in Christ if you need to get deliverance counseling and Christ centered therapy do it. I struggle with other sin and I got all of that help. Your cross is heavy and people are scared of the burden you were given but only you could handle it.
You are Christian and you are loved.
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HALLELUYAH!!!
Shalom All! Would be wonderful to have you consider what some Biblical scholars and historians have done in collaboration with Michael Rood and some of his colleagues at A Rood Awakening -- there have been some pivotal discoveries related to Biblical history in the last few years. aroodawakening.tv/
I mean I agree with most of this apart from the fact that you let Jesus take the burden and he carried the cross for you:)
God is His Word. He is clear and does not speak in circles and avoid truth.
Tim, you're God-inspired words and perspective are simply outstanding. The Truth, wisdom delivered with respect sensitivities and kindness moved me to tears. God Bless You
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As a married woman (nearly 13yrs now) I must say: yes it requires sacrifice (as does following Christ being single), but the rewards are greater than one could understand without experiencing it. It is the challenge within marriage that makes spiritual growth exponential. Every single day we are learning things together as well as separate and then share with each other. Parenthood will make you get to your knees like nothing else. Parenthood will make you understand God's (sacrificial) love for us and our relationship to Him like nothing else. There are lessons in life we can only learn through marriage and/ or parenthood. As I'm sure there are also lessons one can only learn by remaining single, which is also a sacrifice. We all have our own calling in life. But your "more realistic" portrayal of marriage I found rather pessimistic. I do appreciate you reaching out to christian singles though, for they are marginalized.
In married life we can find God if we sacrifice our desire and see God in every heart. Do little things for others builds up happiness in heart . I see single living people not every one religious very rear . that's why I believe married life is warriors life they always fight to win even they lose every day.
Jesus, Three in One God, You are magnificent. I gratefully submit to Your plan as my choice, to Your meaning of the highest human existence as my own choice.
this teaching is really good. thanks so much to Tim Mackie and the other folks who have made it available online for everyone.
Just a minor point of uncertainty or possible disagreement. Tim said that Christianity is the first religion to uphold the single life as meaningful and fulfilling, but i think the buddhist monastic tradition is about 400 or 500 years older than Christianity... so that might not be true...
"God's grace comes to all of us."
Amen
@Dennis Calafati and yet you came from a woman...
.... are you saying you came from the Devil...?
This is very informative and I love the humility. I would say though that when Jesus says this he's protecting the innocent both male and female because if you go to the book of Mark he also mentions if the woman divorces the husband. This is not just protecting women or just protecting men but protecting the innocent
Nearly a year later so many more children have died with this still remaining unresolved.
I can’t believe I’ve lived in Portland all my life and never known about this guy. I even know people in Portland that know this guy, like one friend away, and still never knew about Tim Mackie…we should definitely share his videos with other Christians because this guy knows his stuff!
Those are bad friends 😆😆 jk
Thank you Tim for talking about this difficult topic. While I am enlightened by your teaching, I truly believe this video is brought to me by the amazing work of the Holy Spirit.
Our Lord Jesus Christ will have a the most profound marriage with His bride at the end of times ❤
Fantastic talk. I wish that the prayer at the end hadn't been cut off as though it were somehow superfluous. I have a feeling that it was the crowning moment of this event for those who saw it live.
Tim Mackie from The Bible Project!!! I ❤❤❤ their videos!!
Thank you team jesus christ, we will continue to worship and be together w you with all our heart, soul & mind. Allow us to be free of any immortality or anything that stumbles our relationship w jesus christ 💚💚💚💙❤❤💜🧡🧡🧡💛🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
WE LOVE YOU, YOU ARE BLESSED & THE LORD WILL SURELY GUIDE US & KEEP US AWAY FROM TEMPTATIONS & COVETNESS 🙃🙃
This is pretty good up until the end where he says that there is no shame in being a homosexual and that God does not recognize homosexuality versus heterosexuality as one being sinful and one not being sinful. He doesn't say it explicitly but that is the implication. He fails to make the distinction between adultery vs. Fidelity polygamy versus monogamy.
Obviously he thinks adultery and polygamy are wrong but he doesn't draw the same conclusion about how there is no shame in them the way he does with homosexuality. Tim needs to repent of minimizing the sin of homosexuality and equating it with singleness. It is sinful and is wrong and it is contrary to the image of God.
Amen! 🦋 He is leading people to hell by teaching homosexuality is okay. 1 Corinthians 6 says otherwise.
Yeah, He twists the word over and over!
It says the person seeking DIVORCE is the one with the "hard heart!" God's love NEVER FAILS!
This is the same technique satan used with Jesus... twisting the word into half-truths!
Thank you for another brilliant and grace-filled message Pastor Tim. I thank The Lord for UA-cam so that I can hear this in Australia.
You really help me to have more understanding of the Bible and greater knowledge of who Jesus really is. Thank you so much. God bless you and your family. May God continue to teach you and lead you to educate and disciple other followers of Jesus.
I can't thank you enough for this message!
I really love the context that Tim Mackie puts it in. This is about being human and how we have a higher calling by God. Otherwise, why not breed like rabbits and then abandon our young like sea turtles where they have to fend for themselves. Sea turtles don't lose sleep because only 4 babies out of 100 eggs made it. Imagine if human beings started thinking that way?
Thank you for this. I'm on l y halfway through this one, but know I'll love this beautiful Jesus more!
Mr Alan Ritchson thank you
I like how when you trace the “one humanity, two people, become one, births others” is actually tracing an upright fish symbol ;)
Very well done Tim, superb .. I can’t thank you enough for all that you do. Jesus bless you
Thanks a lot you changed my life completely
“But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.”
II Peter 2:1-3 NKJV
Yea, I like how he preached a flawless sermon for 55 minutes & then the last 4 minutes threw in “there’s no shame in being gay.”
Amen
@@JC-li8kk But if you listen to the context of the message, it's clear that he views the path of a gay Christian as celibacy. So he is saying there is no shame in being gay, but also that the best way for them to honor God is to live a life of singleness. When he says "gay," he is referring to being attracted to the same sex, not necessarily having gay sex or whatever.
I don't believe this teaching showed up in my feed by accident. Thank You LORD.🙏⛪❤
resonating with or not resonating with what Jesus says is not the same as resonating with or not resonating with what the preacher/teacher says. They are 2 different people. It takes deeper, longer and harder searching to discover what Jesus says than 58 minutes. I heard a quote years ago: "it's amazing how much light the Bible sheds on commentaries". dig it.
Maybe that's why Jesus (with 2 S's) said Be ye Holy as I AM Holy ? Maybe we should just simply obey Him ? I liked the part where Tim explained WHY God made the 2nd Law to protect Women . That shows the True Character of God. Good teaching Tim.
Please know that my observation is NOT meant to be hateful. I love the way Tim provides context, and I think gays should be welcomed in church. However, Tim seems to be endorsing homosexuality by never mentioning that it is a sin. I hope to be wrong here, and look forward to being corrected. God bless you all!
ye gays can come but they should know that it is a sin for them to be gay
and yeah watch the video of bible project exposed
@@erc200 Yeah, Tim twists the word over and over!
Singleness is not same seex attraction and IT DOES matter to God! "Be holy as I am holy."
It says the person seeking DIVORCE is the one with the "hard heart!" God's love NEVER FAILS!
I love how Tim Mackie wrestles with the text and how he insists on integrity -- that is, a refusal to make it what we may want it to be, especially when it comes to what Jesus said about the laws and practises attached to the Hebrew faith. Mr. Mackie struggles to be as clear as Jesus was with his followers and attackers -- about what God intends and institutes. We need this defining and clarifying so much. What I took away from what he said here sounds like it was faithful to Christ in every particular. First, he situates the issue "on the road" as he says (and repeats). On the road to Jesus' 'coronation' by the then world as "the king of the Jews'. This coming coronation gives what Jesus says particular authority. He knows exactly what God intended in his laws and has come to re-inaugurate it, if you like. He never makes following what Abraham began, Moses perpetuated and the prophets continued up until John the Baptist, easy or comfortable. He knows we can't follow the law -- but not only doesn't he not dispense with it -- he makes it harder! He makes us aware of the essence of the issues the law deals with -- murder/rage in our hearts/violence as a result of nurturing a grudge (like Cain), adultery, sex outside marriage in general, as about lust/possession/a kind of greed and divorce -- about the heart too -- about one man with a ''hard heart' who wants more-and-different sex and wants that to be legal. The one man/one woman rule is actually as hard, or harder, or almost as hard as not having sex at all. Regardless of not just incompatibilies etc. but the realities of sex apart from the brief moment of bliss. How women often feel when they are pregnant (uninterested in sex). How women often feel when they're nursing (uninterested in sex). What it is like to parent toddlers (neither interested in sex) and then adolescents. None of it is mostly fun. It can't be -- the reality, chemical, personal, societal is work. It's meant to be and sex only plays a pivotal/marginal role. In marriage, men have to conform to a sexual schedule that if they care about how their wife feels is not what they think -- what our culture tells them -- they've signed up for. There's going to be many dry periods because sex often leads to children. That may even be the point of it. The discussion then about eunuchs is profoundly interesting. A life without sex because sex is tied to children in the Biblical world view is an unhappy, free, lonely, fruitful, unharrassed, generous, exceptional life. No ability to have children because of how you were either made or born? No sex. The no sex thing is true both in and outside marriage and is especially hard for men. But Mr. Mackie is so right that we equate sex with happiness and I think that is because it is happiness. Desire and its fulfillment makes you happy. It also leads to inevitable unhappiness (see above) and lack of fulfillment. But the life God calls us to follow in Jesus is always going to involve sacrifice. Jesus' kingship is based (literally) on the reality of love meaning sacrifice. His throne is a cross, which is kind of like saying his throne is the electric chair. There is no way to follow Jesus and not have a life marked by giving up something central to happiness in this world. That's how love is lived in this world. I treasure how Mr. Mackie emphasises this idea of Reality in contrast with contemporary western culture. Happiness isn't why we're here. Gee I wish this were preached more consistently across our world! That's where the faith and the world part company in a major way and a way that especially in the contemporary world is basically heretical. But Jesus 'on the road' is not going to a life of personal fulfillment. he's going to his kingship as the crucified image of God. His life is about to get radically less happy! But it is a kind of consummation of the marriage he's made with humanity. This agony is also maybe an image for 'sexual' union if you like? It is called The Passion after all. Thank you Tim Mackie for making these essential points about who we are and who God is. Sorry this is so long lol... . Just so pumped about your thoughtful and faithful parsing of Jesus' teaching.
WHOA... @28:00 when you did that motion with your fingers and talked about 2 becoming 1 and multiplying-that's the exact shape of a double helix :O
I really want opinions from Christians, whether you believe gay marriage should be legal or not. I was raised into Christianity, and still of today I am a strong believer. But ever since I was around 11 years old, I’ve been struggling with my sexuality. Middle school was the time when I fully realized that I only have attractions towards the same sex, and I tried so hard to date boys in high school but it never felt right... what I mean by that is that I never really liked any of them. and even while I was dating boys, I had genuine feelings for girls I knew and even some close friends. “You’ve just never found the right boy” no, I promise you that ever since the day I hit puberty I was never attracted to a man, not just sexually, but romantically too. So I prayed. And I prayed. I begged god, crying, on my knees to change my feelings towards women (several times, I was in a depression) because I knew that my parents would NEVER accept me and I love my parents with all my heart.... but most of all I fear going to hell....and guess what? I’m still the same. I still only experience attraction towards women, and it’s NOT a choice, I don’t know how else to explain this my Christian friends! I wanted to be heterosexual so bad back then you wouldn’t believe it ! Now, I’m a senior in high school, I still pray every morning, and I’m still a lesbian. So please don’t tell me to try conversion therapy/methods bc nearly everyone who goes through that experiences suicidal thoughts and depression. Don’t tell me to pray harder because for the last time it never worked! I believe with all my heart that god was answering my prayers by not doing anything at all. I strongly believe I was meant to be this way. So yes I can learn to suppress it, and ignore my feelings towards women, but I would never be happy... or experience true love... and I think that’s so unfair that you would this of anyone!
The attraction is the temptation not the sin. Everyone struggles with predilections towards particular sins, I too have SSA. I had to choose who I would follow, my flesh or Jesus. Once I surrendered completely to Jesus/God He gave me Peace, you won't find that in other people ever. Hetero or homosexual relationships. If you want to talk further I'm here to listen. Prayers for your journey.
Search The Last Reformation, and find their videos containing testimonies of those who were once homoesexual, yet now declare their peace and freedom! Be encouraged! There is peace for you in the gospel of Christ. ☺️ 🕊
you are who you are. Any reference to homosexuality in the Bible has to do with child sex slavery and it usually happened with boys. That’s what it’s about.
Not sure if you read this 3 years later and what you have chosen in your life. I do ask "do you fill fulfilled?". From what you wrote I believe every bit of it. Our flesh and feelings can be so complex and powerful that we let them rule us. But this is why God made us higher beings....our ability to think. We can reason and understand. It's hard at any age, but when you're young and exposed to certain things it becomes even harder. However, whatever we feel doesn't make it truth IF we choose Christ. We can't give into our flesh....which is why the scriptures speak of dying to our flesh. We are to rise above our fleshly nature. You are no different from me and my old desire to be angry at my husband. I felt strongly he deserved it...and according to my view he did. But it didn't make it right. God gave strict commands in how we are to respect each other.....just like He gives strict commands to not behave in other ways. So you must deny yourself daily. No conversion therapy. Yes, pray...but pray that God renews your mind every day and surrender your will to Jesus. One day, like someone who workouts, you'll look up and see you have a different stronger body! God bless you!
@@moon-xk8ze There are lots of struggles we go through as teens. Extremely difficult not to sin sexually with the same or opposite sex. But I beg you to look at the bigger picture. Once you go down that path you will struggle 1,000x more the rest of your life. Think of it like heroine or cocaine. The only way to not get extremely addicted is to never do it. You may have some difficulty resisting temptation now, but it’s nothing compared to AFTER experiencing with it. Hope this helps. The sins I don’t struggle with at all right now are the ones I NEVER GAVE INTO ONCE.
(1 Corinthians 7:32, 33), "He that is unmarried is careful for the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord; but he that is married is careful for the things of the world, how he may please his wife"
That passage is not saying people are born gay. People are born with no sexual desire. People can get it cut off .or they can choose celibacy. Sex is a choice. Who are what you have sex with is a choice. And choices have consequences whether it be good or bad. If you can't control your sexual urges get married to the opposite sex or don't get married. Whatever you decide is your decision we as Christian's should love you no matter what you decide. If we choose to tell you you're wrong. We are to do it with love. Only God can deal the consequences.
I'm a bit stuck on a statement he makes around the 12:00 mark, which when paraphrased sounds like this: "God gave Israel these laws to set them apart from their ancient neighbors. And these laws don't represent His moral ideal, but rather they represent Him working with Israel as He found them, after centuries of slavery in Egypt." I know he was talking about the practice of polygamy in the context of what he's saying, but to me, that statement is a bit worrying for me to make, since Tim here is claiming that God making this law is not from a place of absolute authority but rather from bending to what Israel wants. Idk, maybe I'm reading a bit too much into this statement, and I do genuinely love many of the points Tim is making here, but that one statement kinda rubbed me the wrong way if that makes sense. I am open to having a conversation about this, to whomever wants to reply to my comment. Thank you, and God bless you all.
Thank you for teaching on this, Tim!
Powerful sermon! Thank you Mr.Mackie!
Brilliant! Pastorally sensitive whilst remaining biblical and conveying its truth with grace. Learning a lot from you Tim!
Biblical Marriage is between 1 man and 1 woman. Period!
Tim Mackie agrees with you. He says the same idea at 56:06.
21:21 God bless you, Tim Mackie. It is by grace we are saved. Anyone can be married to the opposite gender by birth of age. Jews win.
What do your last two sentences mean?
Wow, so true Mr. Mackie! I also grew up in the 80's and agree 💯 that we were thrown a whole lot of sex and promiscuity, and it's even worse now.
Something that tends to happen to Tim is that people assume he's saying something he didn't. I also see it often on TBP videos. The reason is (I think), he is extremely academic, even when he's talking to the general public. So he takes the issue in question and isolates it and talks about the correlation of one thing with the other, leaving other matters on the side. This doesn't mean that other variables don't correlate with the the main subject, he's just not talking about them.
This is the first video of his that I have watched, but to me the problem is that he didn't read the Matthew 19 accurately since the divorce would have to be for fornication during the betrothal period (like Joseph considered for Mary), and then if he had just simply given the passages of the gospels of Mark 10 and Luke 16, it says there is no allowance for any remarriage. John the Baptist also taught this and was beheaded for it. Way too much time was spent on OT when Jesus came to teach that we are not under the Mosaic Law, but under HIS commands in the Law of Christ. Only one man to only one woman for life, and he should have warned all single people not to even consider marrying a divorced person with a living spouse. I have a playlist of over 140 videos about divorce and remarriage adultery, but his teaching is just not clear.
@@WalkingbytheSpiritAlways if the original divorce was due to sexual infidelity, then it was valid according to Jesus. Then they could remarry
Brother Tim thanks so much for reaching to your greatest ability. Just so appreciate you brother. You are a remarkable teacher and thats only been proven by your work with the Bible Project also. Thanking God for you!