THIS IS AN OLD VIDEO PEOPLE....... LOOK AT THE DATE........ The Manix 2 has been tweeked after this video by Spyderco so the issue isn't an issue anymore.....
This has since been corrected. Im a tree climber/landscaper and I use my knives pretty hard in some pretty rough conditions and I've never had my manix 2s(I have 2 g10s and a lightweight) lock fail. Still this was a good test and could have been a reason they corrected the issue. Appreciate your videos!
I have the cold steel sr1 and ad15 lite. They are extremely tough but have some negatives just like every other knife. I also have 2 manix 2s and Im a tree climber/landscaping and used my manix 2 pretty hard and never had it fail! Also this is the original version with the clear ball bearing cage. It has been fixed since then.
Do you guys not understand the point the point of a hard use test? Duh he's taking the knife out of its limits, how else can we find its limits? Cutting cardboard shows nothing, I expect any knife to do that, but I want to know how far I can push it in a "gotta do it now" situation. That's the point of this video.
The ball lock along with the Benchmade Axis lock is self adjusting. The more you use it, the farther the lock bar (Or ball in this case) will seat into the tang of the blade. Mine out of the box locked up very early, then after a few hundred openings it now seats all the far forward into the tang. And is one of the most solid knives I own.
There is a difference between hard use and abuse. Over strikes, spine whacks, and batoning with a folder is abuse. Completely acceptable with a fix blade knife and Cold Steel (because they advertise and sell their knives to be used like that). If a folding knife can hold up to it, great that is wonderful, but it should never be the standard.
@@WolfinWolvesClothing713 the spring was updated to be strong as hell. Makes new knives hard to close. The cage around the ball bearing is also stronger. Check out flytanium cage for the lock they're awesome and make it even stronger
Led zepplin asked anyone to reply with a reason for a lock. I finish a knife on a strop. A knife needs to be sharp. Every slip joint ive sharpened on a strop folds. Reason found. Hi jankerson, thanks for the video and taking time. Spyderco locks arent as strong as cold steel ( i can fold my endura with my bare hands) but every other aspect is better than most brands
Great video! I don't understand why people are disagreeing with your tests. When I buy a knife I want to know how much abuse it can take. I'll probably never beat on my knife that much, but if for some crazy reason I needed to, I'd like to know how strong it is so I don't end up hurting myself. I've never been a fan of the ball bearing locks and now I'm less of one. I really like this knife design but I'll need to see some real evidence that they fixed it before I buy one.
Its funny to watch people take a knife way out of its category of use and be disappointed when it fails. If you want something to stand up to all of this, you'll need something like a BM Adamas. The Manix makes for a sturdy EDC but not a hard use timber processing knife. You use an axe to get the wood, and the manix to featherstick it.
@jankerson1 when you do tests like these and post them in a public forum where everyone can see, it keeps the manufacturers on their toes. Good job! BTW, do you know for sure that Spyderco made the necessary adjustment to the Manix after you informed them of the test results? Thanks:0)
Interesting, not things I would do with a folding pocket knife but glad to know the limitations of one example. A tool for every purpose and a purpose for every tool.
My knives hold up and so does my Manix 2. As far as i can tell, he didn't use lots of force on the spine whacks. Like i said before, I'm happy that he did it so it kinda shows what damage it can take.
Dude you are crazy! Spyderco knives are designed to cut and they cut very well, you know they are not the strongest knives judging by their tips! But it's always good fun to watch some one do crazy things with their knives!:) thanks for the video.
Hello Jankerson1, Did you take the Manix 2 apart to see what failed in the lock? I figure it would be the plastic like material that holds the ball bearing which is also the mechanism that is exposed to unlock the blade. I own this knife. First impression is this knife is tough as nails. For the lock to fail like it did is concerning to me. You never know what task your knife will be called into service to accomplish and I would want a knife that will at the least, finish that task.
if you want a hatchet go buy one. mines rode around in my pocket for 3 years with almost daily use and I've got no blade play when it's locked open. also that ball bearing lock is brand new out of the box. not even seated yet. and he broke it in to slip out not lock. which is why it got easier each time. this knife has 3 awesome steel options and the only failure I've had is the screws for the pocket clip. but spyderco sent me new ones. with lock tite and some stickers. for free
@chewouch 154CM is awesome steel. The brittleness comes from tempering. Same with D2 steel. If it is over hardened to say 62 then it becomes brittle. Check out Jankerson1's hard use video on the griptilian which is also 154CM. He stands on that blade between two 2X4s and has a hard time breaking it. The scales break but the blade does not. The BM Axis Lock did not fail during the test and that knife only weighs 3.8 oz. compared to the Manix2 which weighs 5 oz.
I totally agree with hard use testing. When I bought my car, I dropped an anvil on the hood, to test it. The car was straight out of the box, mind you. It failed the test. I'll never buy a car like that again!
@silverbulletmann I agree, but durability test are important to some poeple. You read threads about guys using a folder for the task an ax should be doing. It is nice to see a durability test but I think 99% of people will be opening envelops and cutting open boxes with them. I think people in general get too involved in how durable a knife is.. to me.. that is why they make fixed blades, saws and crowbars. Thanks for taking the time and resources to do the review though Jankerson1
Man.. everything is junk now days!!! I just got a new Maglite and when i baton wood with it, it breaks, every time.. I keep sending it back for warranty work but they never fix it... and im not even batoning the big stuff!!! also the damn thing SUCKS at hammering nails..; I used it at my last job site and the nail heads left huge dents in it WTF?!!!... I'll be sure to avoid the Manix 2 cause I chop with the spine of ALL my folding knives!............Hurp...........Hurpa.... DERPPPP..........
just because beat the hell out of the knife and it fails doesnt mean that it is a bad knife. The manix 2 is only a smaller folding knife and i find it a bit un called for the feel the need to beat it up. The manix is clearly not meant for that.
Cool video but I'm not sure I understand the relevance of it. I've never tried to hammer nails with the back of the blade on a folding knife so I can't see what those tests prove by hitting the back of the blade on the board. I ordered a Manix 2 last night and it looks like its GTG unless I try cutting down a tree with it any time soon. I'm not putting it down but you could find a way to break anything mechanical if you tried hard enough.
Spine whack and overstriking are considered abuse. When would you ever put any folder through hard enough conditions that you would need it to never fail a "spinewhack" test. Honestly I don't think the Manix 2 is billed as a heavy abuse folder.
@Mrbikerman Most Cold Steel knives use AUS-8 steel, a steel which pretty much all major knife companies use to some degree for their knives. If you think CS knives are designed as tools, then you'd probably think the same of a lot of high quality knives on the market, wether by SOG, Benchmade, CRKT etc. that use the same steel. While it's true that edge retention isn't one of AUS-8's strengths, it's not really bad at it either. It's edge sharpenability(you wanted sharp) is outstanding though.
man lets assume you are driving your car 120 km/g and you switch in second gear , your engine blows up , that means you tested or you were driving your car ? NO you abused and destroyed it , what guaranty or insurance will assure you the money or the car back ? , thats what you did with the knife , why didnt you tested the tip on some type of skin , ribs or meat to see if it breaks , and what kind of normal use of the knife , makes you hit it from the other side to make the lock fail?
yes,i see your point hear,but i think most folder pocket knifes would fail most of these test ! i have some fixed blade knifes that truly would pass all your test but thats what they where made for, use the right tool for the job at hand,pocket knifes will only take you so far,so my thought is this is not a fair test.
Blane Biondolillo Well, it is. Because some folders are stronger than others and this video showed, that the Manix had a weak lock that was fixed by Spyderco.
if you want a knife that will work through harduse all day long and everyday after get a cold steel but if you want a normal knife to do normal things get literally anything else coldsteels are made for hard use none of the rest of them are
These test are great and very valuable. I was actually thinking about getting this knife but am now crossing it off my list. Point in fact I was not thinking about a cold steel product but now I am re-evaluating that decision. Thank you for doing these. It is a real service.
@sebenza100 It was tested just like the others and it was rated as a hard use just like the others that I tested. It had a problem and Spyderco is working on it.
I was going to screem and cry and wine about this video, BUT, I'm not going to. If you want to have fun breaking knives, feel fully free! All I ask is lean tward American made knifes (like this one) because I like american jobs. Also remember, when you try to run your truck through a tree and it faild to do so, it doesn't mean it was a terrible truck. it just wasn't designed to do that. Thanks for shareing your video. I will resist reading the comments, Im sure everyone is all bent out of shape. :)
+Matthew Tikka I'd agree if this were his common practice, or even a review, instead of a TEST (it's in the description) that he is doing for other people's benefit via a UA-cam vid. I learn a lot from watching these vids and while heavy spine wacks arent super helpful and they definitely arent the intended purpose, it does inspire confidence when a knife passes a heavy spine wack, and is helpful info when another knife will fail a very gentle spine wack consistently. You learn what you can and cant afford to do and maybe what knives to stay away from hard use. Even with good quality blades though this info can be useful. I had a nice frame-lock from a company that I wont name, that failed a mild tap to the blade first hit. Had I done any tip work with it I may have had the blade close on my fingers. Sent it in, got the lockup fixed and now it's good to go. But glad I found out the easy way my knife was defective and needed servicing instead of by losing a finger.
Eric Jonas I understand this. Sometimes I get a little amped when I see thing being destroyed, (especially when I'm a bit of a fan boy) but I guess we wouldn't grow and improve ideas without testing them. I do know that the manix 2 will take a lot, I carry one almost every day, along with a spyderco military on the weekends. Both very great knifes!
I see this is an old video and heard they fixed the issues. I sure hope so because I bought the knife hearing it was a beast and super strong lock. Looks pretty shitty to me.
Proof positive that locking knives aren't an acceptable substitute for a fixed blade, but rather a slipjoint with an extra safety feature. Some are stronger than others, and as such can withstand harder use, but no folding knife will ever be as strong as a fixed blade--that's just physics. It's interesting to see, none the less,what some folding knives can and cannot do relative to others. Somewhat disappointing, as this knife otherwise seems like a great value. Thanks for the test/video bud.
Im sure he knows that. But this is also about a simple spine wack and it failed... Before the 2x4 had its fun with the Manix. He didnt use lots of force to make it fail and thats the point. But hey at least he did it so we dont have to do it, so you gotta love a stress test.
Very interesting to see, especially after seeing the Griptilian pass the spine whacks even after developing blade play. Watching these videos, plus the AL video has created a conflict for me. I don't *want* to want any CS knives 'cause I find the man behind the company repugnant and I don't want to put any money into his spandex pockets. On an unrelated note, that Off Clip On is excellent, isn't it? If I go outside late at night or early in the morning without mine, I get chewed up.
@asdepique23 Haven't planned on getting another Manix 2 unless one is donated to me like the 1st one. The blade is too short for me to buy for myself. The Benchmade was also donated to me and the guy wanted me to break it. I didn't break the AL because it's my knife and I am not Noss4.
I own both the recon one and the manix 2 cold steel built the tri-ad lock extra beefy for test like that its the best lock ever that being said if I'm doing anyoutdoorsy shit like that I'm bringing my srk the manix 2 is good for edc and honestly looks cooler than the recon one I like the G10 better on the manix and honestly I like the 154cm steel better than the AUS 8
@sturmgewehr70 The manix is an awsome knife. Did you see how easily in cut through the wood? ANY foldingknife will fail after a stress test like this. In short.....Use the proper tool for the job. any hard use jobs call for a good fixed blade.... Im just sayin!
I get it, it failed. But on the other hand a lock is not necessary on a knife! Locks are pointless if you use the knife correctly. Slip joints have no lock and I've never closed any on my fingers. I challenge everyone who reads this to reply a logical reason you need a lock on a folding knife that cannot remedied by a fixed blade.
This has since been corrected. Im a tree climber/landscaper and I use my knives pretty hard in some pretty rough conditions and I've never had my manix 2s(I have 2 g10s and a lightweight) lock fail. Still this was a good test and could have been a reason they corrected the issue. Appreciate your videos!
This makes me glad I just ordered the Cold Steel Recon 1 Spear Point S35vn. Thanks for the video my Bladed Brother ⚔️
You missed the description bud. But you got a great blade anyways so no hate
I have the cold steel sr1 and ad15 lite. They are extremely tough but have some negatives just like every other knife. I also have 2 manix 2s and Im a tree climber/landscaping and used my manix 2 pretty hard and never had it fail! Also this is the original version with the clear ball bearing cage. It has been fixed since then.
I don't believe I am gonna loan this guy any of my knives. Lol
Do you guys not understand the point the point of a hard use test?
Duh he's taking the knife out of its limits, how else can we find its limits? Cutting cardboard shows nothing, I expect any knife to do that, but I want to know how far I can push it in a "gotta do it now" situation. That's the point of this video.
It's also in this case a pointless test it's not meant for this at all this is the job of a bk1
I cannot believe this, I have done some hard test on my manix 2 lightweight and the lock has never failed me
He is not using the lightweight your knife is crimped together his has screw that after seeing what he is doing might have came loose haha
Had to cover my manix's eyes for this one
The ball lock along with the Benchmade Axis lock is self adjusting. The more you use it, the farther the lock bar (Or ball in this case) will seat into the tang of the blade. Mine out of the box locked up very early, then after a few hundred openings it now seats all the far forward into the tang. And is one of the most solid knives I own.
There is a difference between hard use and abuse. Over strikes, spine whacks, and batoning with a folder is abuse. Completely acceptable with a fix blade knife and Cold Steel (because they advertise and sell their knives to be used like that). If a folding knife can hold up to it, great that is wonderful, but it should never be the standard.
It is still good to know how much they can handle.
Good thing the manix 2 was updated to resolve this issue a long time ago
What do you mean? I just ordered one. I kinda think it was failing because of the shock to the spring when he was jarring it like that.
@@WolfinWolvesClothing713 the spring was updated to be strong as hell. Makes new knives hard to close. The cage around the ball bearing is also stronger. Check out flytanium cage for the lock they're awesome and make it even stronger
I'm glad to see Spyderco working on it. Hopefully they can do sth about the top too.
I'm wondering if you plan to test out any SOGs with the arc lock?
Led zepplin asked anyone to reply with a reason for a lock. I finish a knife on a strop. A knife needs to be sharp. Every slip joint ive sharpened on a strop folds. Reason found. Hi jankerson, thanks for the video and taking time. Spyderco locks arent as strong as cold steel ( i can fold my endura with my bare hands) but every other aspect is better than most brands
Great video! I don't understand why people are disagreeing with your tests. When I buy a knife I want to know how much abuse it can take. I'll probably never beat on my knife that much, but if for some crazy reason I needed to, I'd like to know how strong it is so I don't end up hurting myself. I've never been a fan of the ball bearing locks and now I'm less of one. I really like this knife design but I'll need to see some real evidence that they fixed it before I buy one.
I'm sorry but was this recorded with a potato?
@CanItAlready
Thanks for the comment. :)
Oh yeah the Off Clipon is awesome, it keeps me from getting eaten alive when I am outside. :)
Its funny to watch people take a knife way out of its category of use and be disappointed when it fails. If you want something to stand up to all of this, you'll need something like a BM Adamas. The Manix makes for a sturdy EDC but not a hard use timber processing knife. You use an axe to get the wood, and the manix to featherstick it.
I just have to know...did any folding knife ever survive your full test? Which one? I will certainly get one!
@jankerson1 when you do tests like these and post them in a public forum where everyone can see, it keeps the manufacturers on their toes. Good job! BTW, do you know for sure that Spyderco made the necessary adjustment to the Manix after you informed them of the test results? Thanks:0)
Interesting, not things I would do with a folding pocket knife but glad to know the limitations of one example. A tool for every purpose and a purpose for every tool.
My knives hold up and so does my Manix 2. As far as i can tell, he didn't use lots of force on the spine whacks. Like i said before, I'm happy that he did it so it kinda shows what damage it can take.
Great test! I have the same knife and it's great to see what the limits of this is. Thanks for the test!
Check the Kershaw link in 20 cv next please. It would be interesting to see how that particular budget knife holds up
Jankerson you know you were dissappointed when this Spydie failed. It sure did slice up that lumber likity split though.
Dude you are crazy!
Spyderco knives are designed to cut and they cut very well, you know they are not the strongest knives judging by their tips!
But it's always good fun to watch some one do crazy things with their knives!:) thanks for the video.
Hello Jankerson1,
Did you take the Manix 2 apart to see what failed in the lock? I figure it would be the plastic like material that holds the ball bearing which is also the mechanism that is exposed to unlock the blade. I own this knife. First impression is this knife is tough as nails. For the lock to fail like it did is concerning to me. You never know what task your knife will be called into service to accomplish and I would want a knife that will at the least, finish that task.
if you want a hatchet go buy one. mines rode around in my pocket for 3 years with almost daily use and I've got no blade play when it's locked open. also that ball bearing lock is brand new out of the box. not even seated yet. and he broke it in to slip out not lock. which is why it got easier each time. this knife has 3 awesome steel options and the only failure I've had is the screws for the pocket clip. but spyderco sent me new ones. with lock tite and some stickers. for free
@chewouch 154CM is awesome steel. The brittleness comes from tempering. Same with D2 steel. If it is over hardened to say 62 then it becomes brittle. Check out Jankerson1's hard use video on the griptilian which is also 154CM. He stands on that blade between two 2X4s and has a hard time breaking it. The scales break but the blade does not. The BM Axis Lock did not fail during the test and that knife only weighs 3.8 oz. compared to the Manix2 which weighs 5 oz.
@jankerson1 are you going to do a hard use test for the new spyderco and see if they really fixed them?
with all do respect spyderco says right on their web site that their knives are NEVER to be used for prying.
I totally agree with hard use testing. When I bought my car, I dropped an anvil on the hood, to test it. The car was straight out of the box, mind you. It failed the test. I'll never buy a car like that again!
Steve C. Im Guessing It Wasn't A Benchmade
@silverbulletmann
I agree, but durability test are important to some poeple. You read threads about guys using a folder for the task an ax should be doing. It is nice to see a durability test but I think 99% of people will be opening envelops and cutting open boxes with them. I think people in general get too involved in how durable a knife is.. to me.. that is why they make fixed blades, saws and crowbars. Thanks for taking the time and resources to do the review though Jankerson1
The Benchmade griptilian survived better, but I hope these issues have been worked out as I plan on purchasing a Manix 2
what was indeed the actual problem that spyderco has now fixed? and i would love to see another test with the revised version
That is exactly why I aboslutely HATE hollow grinds. The tips and sometimes even the blades snap far too easily
Manix 2 is full flat grind, but it does have a thin tip
@simonsky8
Yes they are fine, no need to worry about them.
Man.. everything is junk now days!!! I just got a new Maglite and when i baton wood with it, it breaks, every time.. I keep sending it back for warranty work but they never fix it... and im not even batoning the big stuff!!! also the damn thing SUCKS at hammering nails..; I used it at my last job site and the nail heads left huge dents in it WTF?!!!... I'll be sure to avoid the Manix 2 cause I chop with the spine of ALL my folding knives!............Hurp...........Hurpa.... DERPPPP..........
just because beat the hell out of the knife and it fails doesnt mean that it is a bad knife. The manix 2 is only a smaller folding knife and i find it a bit un called for the feel the need to beat it up. The manix is clearly not meant for that.
Good use of 2x4 s. do you have a new vid with the current manix.
Cool video but I'm not sure I understand the relevance of it. I've never tried to hammer nails with the back of the blade on a folding knife so I can't see what those tests prove by hitting the back of the blade on the board. I ordered a Manix 2 last night and it looks like its GTG unless I try cutting down a tree with it any time soon.
I'm not putting it down but you could find a way to break anything mechanical if you tried hard enough.
Spine whack and overstriking are considered abuse. When would you ever put any folder through hard enough conditions that you would need it to never fail a "spinewhack" test. Honestly I don't think the Manix 2 is billed as a heavy abuse folder.
@Mrbikerman Most Cold Steel knives use AUS-8 steel, a steel which pretty much all major knife companies use to some degree for their knives. If you think CS knives are designed as tools, then you'd probably think the same of a lot of high quality knives on the market, wether by SOG, Benchmade, CRKT etc. that use the same steel. While it's true that edge retention isn't one of AUS-8's strengths, it's not really bad at it either. It's edge sharpenability(you wanted sharp) is outstanding though.
@jankerson1 That's good to hear...might have to pick one up. Still wish they would've gone full flat on the regular production version though.
id like to see the new manix thats fixed, cuz this one was advertised as hard use but who needs a hard use knife thats gunna fold on ur fingers.
@GrinderMagee
Oh, they cut great, Spydercos cut extremely well.
man lets assume you are driving your car 120 km/g and you switch in second gear , your engine blows up , that means you tested or you were driving your car ? NO you abused and destroyed it , what guaranty or insurance will assure you the money or the car back ? , thats what you did with the knife , why didnt you tested the tip on some type of skin , ribs or meat to see if it breaks , and what kind of normal use of the knife , makes you hit it from the other side to make the lock fail?
It sounds like the Spyderco Juggernaut has silenced him and now its a great knife?
yes,i see your point hear,but i think most folder pocket knifes would fail most of these test ! i have some fixed blade knifes that truly would pass all your test but thats what they where made for, use the right tool for the job at hand,pocket knifes will only take you so far,so my thought is this is not a fair test.
Blane Biondolillo Well, it is. Because some folders are stronger than others and this video showed, that the Manix had a weak lock that was fixed by Spyderco.
bfgguns. Thank you for pointing out that spyderco made adjustments to the locking mechanism on the manix 2. I was about to say the same thing.
Hey its call Murphy's law
No way that was real spyderco, that lock holds up to 900 pounds
Really shows what not to do but I'm not worried I only use my knife on vegetables , meat and Humans.
likin that ring in the front pocket my dude :)
Thanks for the vid, but kinda' hard to see anything that you are doing with the the big blue box blocking the view.
This is crazy!
if you want a knife that will work through harduse all day long and everyday after get a cold steel but if you want a normal knife to do normal things get literally anything else coldsteels are made for hard use none of the rest of them are
QueitRiot7 Benchmade knives?
But the COLD STEEL American Lawman managed the hard used test with flying colors. So I guess COLD STEEL makes a good sturdy knife.
would u say that a frame-lock is better than liner-lock and lockback?
These test are great and very valuable. I was actually thinking about getting this knife but am now crossing it off my list. Point in fact I was not thinking about a cold steel product but now I am re-evaluating that decision. Thank you for doing these. It is a real service.
@sebenza100
It was tested just like the others and it was rated as a hard use just like the others that I tested. It had a problem and Spyderco is working on it.
did they really fix it? how do you know? I want this knife but I also want to keep my fingers.
Quick question: Did you try to warranty this knife through Spyderco?
@Solareffects
I believe they are all the new ones now.
Imo if you wanna do stuff like that then use a bk2 or a busse or busse kin I keep a bk2 in my truck. Folders aren't meant to be abused like that...
I was going to screem and cry and wine about this video, BUT, I'm not going to. If you want to have fun breaking knives, feel fully free! All I ask is lean tward American made knifes (like this one) because I like american jobs. Also remember, when you try to run your truck through a tree and it faild to do so, it doesn't mean it was a terrible truck. it just wasn't designed to do that. Thanks for shareing your video. I will resist reading the comments, Im sure everyone is all bent out of shape. :)
+Matthew Tikka
I'd agree if this were his common practice, or even a review, instead of a TEST (it's in the description) that he is doing for other people's benefit via a UA-cam vid. I learn a lot from watching these vids and while heavy spine wacks arent super helpful and they definitely arent the intended purpose, it does inspire confidence when a knife passes a heavy spine wack, and is helpful info when another knife will fail a very gentle spine wack consistently. You learn what you can and cant afford to do and maybe what knives to stay away from hard use. Even with good quality blades though this info can be useful. I had a nice frame-lock from a company that I wont name, that failed a mild tap to the blade first hit. Had I done any tip work with it I may have had the blade close on my fingers. Sent it in, got the lockup fixed and now it's good to go. But glad I found out the easy way my knife was defective and needed servicing instead of by losing a finger.
Eric Jonas I understand this. Sometimes I get a little amped when I see thing being destroyed, (especially when I'm a bit of a fan boy) but I guess we wouldn't grow and improve ideas without testing them. I do know that the manix 2 will take a lot, I carry one almost every day, along with a spyderco military on the weekends. Both very great knifes!
This guy must hate wood
I have never been satisfied by the spyderco lock designs. I would rather have the slipits.
its only a little folding knife - you're killing it, seriously folding knives aren't for processing wood
wow! i thought manix2 is a hard-use knife! thank you for a clarification!
@john1112112
A good frame lock is very good, so yes that would be my preference over a liner lock or standard lock back.
I see this is an old video and heard they fixed the issues. I sure hope so because I bought the knife hearing it was a beast and super strong lock. Looks pretty shitty to me.
Proof positive that locking knives aren't an acceptable substitute for a fixed blade, but rather a slipjoint with an extra safety feature. Some are stronger than others, and as such can withstand harder use, but no folding knife will ever be as strong as a fixed blade--that's just physics. It's interesting to see, none the less,what some folding knives can and cannot do relative to others. Somewhat disappointing, as this knife otherwise seems like a great value. Thanks for the test/video bud.
Is that a can in your pocket? What do you dip Jankerson1?
Im sure he knows that. But this is also about a simple spine wack and it failed... Before the 2x4 had its fun with the Manix. He didnt use lots of force to make it fail and thats the point. But hey at least he did it so we dont have to do it, so you gotta love a stress test.
knockoff knives tend to do that
@silverbulletmann
It's a strengh test, but the newer ones are good to go, Spyderco was all over it.
And when a spine wack fails once, PLEASE don't do it again. You're just messing up the locking mech.
That's what a warranty is for you Nutsack!
So would you the the Para 2 better overall? In lock and tip strength?
what about the lightweight version i dont know how the lock would hold up
This test is like buying a prius and testing it off road. Its dumb, and does not make sense.
Very interesting to see, especially after seeing the Griptilian pass the spine whacks even after developing blade play.
Watching these videos, plus the AL video has created a conflict for me. I don't *want* to want any CS knives 'cause I find the man behind the company repugnant and I don't want to put any money into his spandex pockets.
On an unrelated note, that Off Clip On is excellent, isn't it? If I go outside late at night or early in the morning without mine, I get chewed up.
@silverbulletmann
It's a lock strenght test, nothing more than that.
The Maix 2 is good to go.
@asdepique23
Haven't planned on getting another Manix 2 unless one is donated to me like the 1st one. The blade is too short for me to buy for myself. The Benchmade was also donated to me and the guy wanted me to break it.
I didn't break the AL because it's my knife and I am not Noss4.
@omfg191
Yes, they are here..
I would love to see this test done with a benchmade 710 and the new manix 2
@wcropp1
Spyderco solved the issues with the model I believe so it would be a great knife to carry.
@chewouch
S30V isn't brittle, it's a very tough steel.
@cptdesoya
Hardly a BM Fanboy or any makers fanboy for that matter, I like a lot of diofferent knives for many different Companies including Spyderco.
@jankerson1 Can you do one on the Buck CSAR-T?
wow i was so close to buying this thank you for the testaa
They fixed it.
I own both the recon one and the manix 2 cold steel built the tri-ad lock extra beefy for test like that its the best lock ever that being said if I'm doing anyoutdoorsy shit like that I'm bringing my srk the manix 2 is good for edc and honestly looks cooler than the recon one I like the G10 better on the manix and honestly I like the 154cm steel better than the AUS 8
@jankerson1
It's probably that pivot bushing system
Ok to be fair the lock should not fail like that, I was very disappointed.
@jankerson1 figures. forgot that some of these were donated
@sturmgewehr70 The manix is an awsome knife. Did you see how easily in cut through the wood? ANY foldingknife will fail after a stress test like this. In short.....Use the proper tool for the job. any hard use jobs call for a good fixed blade.... Im just sayin!
This has to be the Chinese version... I've beat my Manix 2xl to death and other than chips it is still a beast...
Like if my car is careening through a guardrail on a mountain pass and I need it to grow wings?
@zujostix
Depends on if someone donates one for testing.
I get it, it failed. But on the other hand a lock is not necessary on a knife! Locks are pointless if you use the knife correctly. Slip joints have no lock and I've never closed any on my fingers. I challenge everyone who reads this to reply a logical reason you need a lock on a folding knife that cannot remedied by a fixed blade.
I AM SO MAD I JUST STUCK MY MANIX IN SOME CHEAP , THIN PARTICLE BOARD AND THE WHOE TIP JUST SNAPPED LIKE IT WAS 440A OR SOME SHIT
Smack! Fail. Smack! Fail. Smack! Fail.
@acuranrgfx I couldn't agree more. Thank you.