@@maanasperumalla7737Mahabharata Drona parva and also in many parts of Sauptika parva... It's highly known and evident fact for all of them who sincerely follow true scriptures unlike Iskcon's fanatics who follow sectarian and bogus scriptures.. In reality it's not even a debate, every true Hindu who follows Vedas know that Lord Sadāshiva is the supreme lord... some Vaishnavas have started their fallacies since 900 years... Varanasi pura patim bhaja Vishwanatham 🙏
@@maanasperumalla7737 To educate people that there is no difference between Hari and Har.The shastras says that differentiating between Hari and Har is one of the topmost sin and also topmost vaishnav apradha.
This is stated in Narada purana and some parts of Varaha Purana too... This is just puranic and have no importance as puranas are mythologies.. When you ask Vedas Rigveda clearly says Brahma < Vishnu < Shiva.. Rigveda 9.96.5 says Vishnu is son of Shiva. Yajurveda 2.31 says Vishnu is born out of Shiva. Atharvaveda 15.14.5 says Vishnu is sprung out of Shiva. But still people debate without knowing these facts.. It's clear and there's no debate.. Lord Sadāshiva is the supreme god...
not brahma yaar kyu nhi smjhte ho tum log shiva and krishna are same they are supreme they are one they are immortal they are parmeshwar but brahma is a demigod, his life is fixed and endup one day he is not even immortal
You can't say that. Krishna is a path of enlightenment of samsara and shiva is the path of renouncing the samsara, by enlightenment. In both the cases, enlightenment is the ultimate goal. Krishna is the Modest, shiva is the ultimate life itself. Shiva means, "Bhija", seed of life. His power is Dhyana. IF YOU LOVE SHIVA, U WILL LOVE HIS MADHAVA. IF YOU LOVE MADHAVA, YOU WILL LOVE SHIVA.
Hare Krishna Absolutely right. Krishna loves Shiva and when we worship Shiva we get Braj Prem. The Love of residents of Vrindavan to Krishna. Lord Shiva is the controller of the Tamo Guna in Samsara. And the Gunas.. Sattva Rajas and Tamas they all come From Krishna as Krishna himself says in the Gita. When you attain Krishna your goal of life is fulfilled.
@@devakinair6544Cooked up Iskcon story... Mandukyopanishat says Shiva is beyond all 3 guṇas.. And where in Vedas ur Krishna is called BHAGAVAN ?. Vedas adore only Shiva as Bhagavan...
Krishna clearly said in BhagvadGita verse 7.7 : "mattaḥ parataraṁ nānyat kiñchid asti dhanañjaya mayi sarvam idaṁ protaṁ sūtre maṇi-gaṇā iva" Which means -> There is nothing higher than Myself, O Arjun. Everything rests in Me, as beads strung on a thread. And hence, the original personality of Godhead(Adi-Purush) and the supreme God, is none other than Lord Shri Krishna
@@garygrunstein634 😁 But I want him to say this that no one is equal to him as well the way he says no one is above me, 😁 Only then I'll accept it, 😁 Jay Shri Krishna 🦚🙏🦚🙏🦚
When a vishnu avatar is considered supreme, that's good news! It means he preserves the world while destroying evil. So, preservation of the world is the primary focus.
Bhagwan Shiv Ne Maa Parvati se kaha : Uma Kahau mai Anubhava apna, Satt Hari Bhajana Jagath Sab Sapna.. Jai Shree Krishna Jai Shree Ram Chandra. Har Har Mahadev 🙏❤️
@@Sachisha3009 Vedas say shiv is Supreme? Why do vishnu bhakt like to insult Lord Shiva by addressing him as a demigod while it is clearly written in Vedas that he himself is the Almighty God? When the Vedas clearly mentions about no idols and no forms of god, why are there so many gods in Hinduism? Who is Rama, Vishnu, Shiva, etc.? Is it just human imagination? For this answer no Purans can be trusted for the people who are true unbiased seekers, Purans carry heavy contradiction in these matters if only one or two are read, And they have been manipulated by cultists to some extent, also they are meant for lower worldly mind set, Vedas also called as Shruti have greratest authority over all other scriptures like Smriti, Purans, Samhitas, Shastras etc, Even when trinity has doubts they would adhere with Verdict of Vedas, Even no god form is greater than Vedas. When i read few Purans i also became confused, but then had greater intensity and curiosity to find truth, i made lots of efforts read All Purans, Upnisahds, Vedas Bramhans Aranyaks, Tantra., Agam, etc and then found that actually even purans have no contradiction, but as materialistic people are dumb and can believe anything, they after say knowing about one god, never try to ascertain truth, for them this is ego question what they think right no matter if it is false, they would just believe in there sheer imagination no fact or truth. To ascertain this matter Only Vedas can be real judge, So let us see what these Four Vedas tell about God head, or supreme God personality who has no body above or beyond, and when Vedas declare about him they mean every word categorically not allegorically, In Vedas Once In Shwetashwatar Upnishad, all Rishis have assembled together and did Shastrarth research on Param Bramha God, they came to know that discussion wont be able to establish the truth hence they all meditated for several celestial years with an inquiry that who is that one from whom everything comes and merges in, who is existent before time who is that One Final God of Gods who has no body above, nothing beyond. And after many years and continuous Samadhi (Ultra Aplha State of Mind) it was Revealed to Bramha Rishi, Shwetashwatar he got enlightened and he floating in ether with immense bliss and divine illumination declared to all Rishis Thus spake the great Rishi in second shloka mantra of third adhyay (chapter) of Shwetashwatar Upnishad of YajurVeda, which is one of the prime 6 Upnishads :- Eko hi Rudro na dvitīyāya tasthurya imāṃl lokān īśata īśanībhiḥ / pratyaṅ janās tiṣṭhati saṃcukocāntakāle saṃsṛjya viśvā bhuvanāni gopāḥ // 3.2 //
@@Sachisha3009 Shiva/rudra is truly and the only one; for the knowers of Brahman do not admit the existence of a second, He Rudra alone rules all the worlds by His powers. He dwells as the inner Self of every living being. After having created all the worlds, He, their Protector, takes them back into Himself at the end of time. Here it is very very clearly Vedas declared finally, not just because of emotions and need as you will find Devas eulogizing any god when they need only, or because of Devotion which is emotional aspect of mind, and here is the existent reality the truth found by all enlightened Rishis, beyond mind absolute bliss, all throughout the scriptures. This is fact and Logic too, Shivas Ansha Kalagni Rudra extinct all all even God,s like Mahavishnu etc also merge in him, No thing remains only Rudra exists hence creation can only start from him, this is him, who was before even singularity. Here they say, clearly Eko hi Rudro, Only Rudra is na dwiteeyay, none other at all, no one is equal to him as, he is Only entity who is Unique, else all is Maya only. He is the one who is called The only self sustaining father of Mahavishnu bramah and trinities and all Gods and infinite Universes. Now one can say that Vishnu is also God, yes it is true, no doubt, yet let us see Mahanarayan Upnishad There also surely Rishis worshiped Narayan sung his eulogies as this Upnishad is about him only he is PoornBramhan certainly in this Upnishad, as Shiva once ordered Vedas to sing his sukta as God as One among Panch Bramhans. But when the question arose who is greatest God of all who has no body above or beyond, here Rishis are not cultists or just emotional believers of some biased pseudo guru, they are true masters they would never lie but present truth as they witnessed it, So here let us see What Mahanarayan Upnishad mentions about greatest God who has no body above who makes trinity, etc and is master owner father of all Gods, including Mahanarayan Bramha Vishnu etc. Here they discuss about greatest God the Finality to whom shall they devote themselves the final greatest God as they say here Kim Deva Havisha Vidhem, they also conferred that God to be Shiva Rudra only and this is Vaishnav Upanishad you can check i am mentioning chapters etc. In adhyay (chapter) 2 rishis contemplate on who is the final god to which we may offer our greatest oblations, from 1 to 19 shloka they discuss about it, and in 21 st shloka they invoke agni and than they declare. Purushasya Vidmam Sahstraakshas Mahadevasya Dheemahi Tanno Rudrah Prachodayat. We desire to go towards Mahadev Rudra who is omnipotent having Thousands of eyes he is Greatest God of all Gods, our mind heart and intellect must always be with his divinity, bliss and Benevolence. Than again at anuvak 12 of this upanishads declares. Yo Devanam Prabhavashchodbhavashch Vishwadhipo Rudro Maharshih Hiranyagarbham janyamas Poorvam sano Budhya Shudhya sanyunaktu. We bow to the one who is sole master of universe who creates this universe all beings and Gods sustains them by his power and he merges them back in himself may such great lord bless us with divine bliss full intellect with devotion. Than from 19th anuvaak panch bramha mantras of shiva are given namely Sadyojat mantra, Vaamdev mantra, Tatpurush Mantra, Aghora Mantra, and Ishan mantra.I Now see yourself that even Vaishnav Upnishad eulogize him as greatest God Lord of all Gods, not only this upanishad but Shakta and other upanishads of other Shakshas branches like of Gyan Yoga Shakha who worship formless form only also worship Shiva and consider him Greatest among all Gods. Gayatri rahsyopnishad , A Shakta Upnishad declared that the God of Gayatri mantra is Sadashiva the goal of gayatantra is Rudra only Devasya iteendro devo dyotat iti, sa indrastasmat sarvapurusho naam Rudrah. The God who is beyond senses and mind who is God and maker of all Gods, we know the Lord of this mantra as Sadashiva but none other. Now about Gyan shakhas Upanishad, they are gyan and Yoga based Upnishads and many of them clearly mention Shiva as Greatest goal of All Yogis, and Gods. Here is one Amritnadopnishad, the upnishad belonging to this Shakha are never tilted towards any God, But they state truth of Gods as they witnessed and experienced them. Its first chapters second shloka , 1.2 Omkaar rath marumhya Vishnumkritvarth sarthimBramha loka padaanveshi Rudra raadhan tatparah Taking Omkar mantra as your chariot make shree Vishnu your Guru, the one who desires to achieve beyond Bramhaloka (immense bliss of shiva) must always worship Rudra with devotion and diligence. This clears distinction that Vishnu can be taken as Guru a Guide yet goal of all Bramh gyanis is Shiva Rudra only. He is the highest. Vedas declare Rudra as Pashupati, pahshu are not animals here but being bounded with pancpasahs, five boundations are Pashus, this included all gods including Vishnu bramha etc, and they have performed PashuPat Vrata to appease Shiva who can set them free from animalistic insitincts, Vishnu performed Pashupat Vrata always and in his avatars and shiva has made him free from pasuthva, Here is the description in Vedas about Pahsupati Shiva. “Sarwe Deva Pashutamvapu Swayam Tasmat Pashupatir Babhoov”. (Yajur Veda) The one in front of whom all Gods including Bramha and Vishnu have accepted there animal instinct, and declared him as Pashupati The lord of all gods and all beings. How he came to be known as such, Here is the description-:Yajur Veda, 6th Kanda, 2nd Prasna, 3rd Anuvaka and 12th Mantra. Mahapuram Jayantiti ta ishum Samas Kurva to gnium anikan Soman Salyam Vishum Tejanam the bruvan ka imam asishatita Rudra iti aleruvan rudro vai Krura; Somya twiti, sobravit Varam Vrina aham eva Pasunam Adhipatirasaniti tasmat rudrah Pasunam adhipatishtam rudrova Srijat Satisra Puro bhitva ebhyo: lokebhys Suran pranudata. "There were the three cities of iron, silver, and gold (belonging) to Asuras. The gods not being able to win them (by fight) wished to win them by siege. (The great) say that He (the Brahmin &c), who knows (what ought to be known) and he (the non-Brahmin &c), who does not know - they are able to win by seige the great city which cannot be overtaken by fight :Then the gods made an arrow composed of Agni as (the bottom hilt) Soma as (the middle) iron and Vishnu as (the top) and declared (consulted) who will discharge it, and determined None but MahaRudra, (was) as only and Greatest God amongst them all, being capable of discharging such an apocalyptic weapon which carried all the weight and might of all Devas. Upon hearing such request) He (The Rudra) said the boon was made over, From Now on whole Universe must know the truth and accept that I am the Lord of Infinite Cosmos, all of you, all Gods and all beings are my Pashus (pets afflicted by five pashas ), hence all are Pashus both the two-footed Devas and manushyas and four-footed; So Rudra the Lord of Pashus, The Pashunampatim discharged it, broke up these three cities, and blew them up all from these worlds." Aum namo bhagavate RudrAya. Now some excerpts from all vedas as Vedas are full of Rudra Shivas eulogies and greateness, The Yajurvedic Rudrashtdhayi is longest eulogy in Vedas for any single God head ever, Nothing is so great and repeteadly mentioned in all Vedas. Now though Shiva is of course supreme god, but he is quite strange in his leelas, He is in habit of making Gods out of his servants, Those who worship him rightly to become God have been made god by him, Like Vishnu and Bramha both wanted to be gods and worshiped, as they fought against each other ShivLinga fire vortex emerged between them which they could not found origin or end, Hence Vishnu worshipe dNirakar Shivalinga but Bramha Lied, So Shiva cursed Bramha that he would not be worshiped but only in yagna and For Vishnu he gave boon that , you will be known as god and your devotees will worship you as god, and those who are true devotees or yours and respect worship me too would be blessed by me too. So when some believers say Krishna is God or Rama is god than it is true, as they are parts of Vishnu and Vishnu is made God by his Lord Sadashiva, this states Mahabaharat how Shiva made Vishnu a God. So we respect and worship actually pancbramhan and they can be considered god, surely and all Sanatana followers must worship them surely no matter who there ishta is. So no arguements or contests, believers can beleive for those who consider other forms as god, for them that form is God, like for Vishnu worshipers he is surely god, yet His Own God is Sadashiva without a doubt, So we respect all but this is truth or Vedas about Rudra Shiva. And one more thing not even Vedas but science also accepts Shiva as a possibility of God Manifested because of science of his Tantras, they also found that this shivalinga is ellipsoid shape and this is only way harness mega energies they conquer that ShivLinga like cosmic particle or quantum unified field was reason of Big Bang and for that they have installed a Huge Nataraja in front of Hadron collidor worlds most powerful most expensive nuclear reactor Machine which even can make a black hole . So About Shiva no body needs beliefs, all these puny beliefs are Lies meant for falsifiable doubtful things for truth no one needs to believe and Shiva is as True as This universe.
Logo ko problem hoti h unke bhakt unhe supreme kyu bolte jo ki unhe kabhi samjh nahi aane krishna hi har jagha par h kahi woh shiv ji ke naam se puje jaate h Or kahi swayam khud ya kahi or kisi god ke rup me Hare krishna🙏
Good video.. Hare Krishna.. Now u have given Scripture Sastric Vedic Proof.. No doubt.. Yes Brahma And Shivji Glorifying Krsna as Supreme God many times in Vedic Scriptures.. Hare Krishna.. Jai Srila Prabhupada..
These ISKCON people haven't seen Shri Krishna or Shiva in real nor they know them personally. But, they are declaring to the world that Krishna is supreme. In spirituality, the real sadhana is more important than the unwanted discussions like these.
@Vinayak Dixit. "they are declaring to the world that Krishna is supreme.". We are not declaring ; Lord Shri Krishna Himself is declaring. In the Bhagavad-gita , Lord Shri Krishna says : 'there is no truth superior to Me (mattah para-taram na-anyat kinchit). Everything rests upon Me, as pearls are strung on a thread.' (Bhagavad-gita, Chapter 7, Verse 7).
@@madanagopal4736 bhai jara mere dobts clear kr do tum bht gyani lgte ho. Bas Itna pucha tha only Krishna kaise supreme hai? Kyuki Mostly sastro Me Shiva ko hi supreme God btaya hai to tum kis bases pr bol rhe Ho?
@@vivekchoudhary9114 . :"Kyuki mostly Sastro me Shiva ko hi supreme God btaya hai , to tum kis bases pr bol rhe ho ?" ANSWER : - 1. There are 6 Puranas meant for people who are under the influence of Tamo-Guna. In these Puranas it is mentioned that Lord Shiva is the Supreme. - 2. There are 6 Puranas meant for people who are under the influence of Rajo-Guna. In these Puranas it is mentioned that Lord Brahma is the Supreme. - 3. There are 5 Puranas meant for people who are under the influence of Sattva-Guna. In these Puranas it is mentioned that Lord Vishnu is the Supreme. - 4. There is the 18th Purana, named Shrimad Bhagavatam. In the Shrimad Bhagavatam it is mentioned that Lord Shri Krishna is the Supreme. CONCLUSION : You can preach from any of these 18 Puranas. WHY ? Because all the 18 Puranas are written by Vyasadeva Rishi, the literary Avatar of Lord Shri Vishnu, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. We, from ISKCON, are preaching from the Shrimad Bhagavatam. (Tamo-Guna means : the Mode of Darkness. Rajo-Guna means : the Mode of Passion. Sattva-Guna means : the Mode of Goodness.)
But Krishna was Shiva devotee. He never started his day without worshipping Shivaling. Even on the days of war be didn't forget to worship Shiva. Vishnu and Shiva are one and same in core.
@@dedicatedbeing.6998 They are same Shiva is consciousness within a individual and Vishnu is source of consciousness. Both are complete that's why in Indic thought any individual can reach the perfection and dissolving themselves into Brahman and attain moksa. It's a fact that both Ram and Krishna were Shiva devotees.
TRUE. We don't spend our younger days to read the Bagvatgita,and the siva Puranas. 3 are one. We have to be United Every atom is controlled by them. All the 3 are Supreme. Let's not say Shiva or Krishna or Brahma thy guide us. Through their teachings, through Gurus..Hare Krishna 🎉🎉🎉🎉
ब्रह्म परम ज्ञान है, विष्णु परम आनंद है और शिव परम वैराग्य है। इन तीनों के मिश्रण से परम तत्व बना है। इसमें कोई कम ज्यादा नहीं है। इसे न मानकर अपनी धारणा में किसी को सुप्रीम बताना अज्ञानता का लक्षण है। यह तो चार अंधे एक हाथी के अलग अलग अंग को छू कर अपने दिमाग से उसका वर्णन करने वाले कथा जैसा हो गया। ऐसे अंध आज भी समाज में है यह हमारा दुर्भाग्य है।
The one who is born from a human cannot be supreme... Only shambhu is supreme. Even Brahma and Vishnu were not able to find the end of the fire Shiva Linga.. किरीटे निशेशो ललाटे हुताशो भुजे भोगिराजो गले कालिमा च । तनौ कामिनी यस्य तत्तुल्यदेवं न जाने न जाने न जाने न जाने ॥ Har Har Mahadev 🙏
Lord Krishna is the greatest Shaiva. Lord Krishna to Markandeya: (Markandeya! Whatever you said is in order and the Truth is that I am worship-worthy by others; but still I worship Ishaana(Lord Shiva); there is nothing that I cannot achieve a thing, nor is unavailable to me; yet I am aware that I perform Puja to Parama Shiva. Those who are unable to overcome Maya or Illusion could never achieve Shiva Darshana; but I do realize that my foundation is Shiva and hence I always worship Him. There is no better Punya Phala nor fearlessness than what the Sacred Task of Lingaarchana would confer and for accomplishing propitiousness human beings must resort to Shiva Puja, Shri Krishna affirms. Those who realise and experience Vedic Siddhaantaas (Principles) do recognise that Shiva Linga is my own Swarupa and that is precisely why I perform my own worship of the Atma Swarupa of Ishana, says Krishna. He further confirms I am Shankara’s Parama Murti and I am Shankara myself without doubt. Vedas have emphasised that there is no differernce whatsoever and Krishna and Shiva are just the same. This is the reason why that one should instal Shiva Linga all over!) Kurma Purana chap 25 Bhavataa kathitam sarvam tathyameva na samshayaha, Tathaapi Devameeshaanaam Pujayaami Sanaatanam Na mey vipraasti kartavyam naanavaaptam kathanchana, Pujayaami tathaapeesham jaanannetat Param Shivam Na vai pashyanti tam Devam Maayayaa mohitaa janaah, Tatoham swaatmano mulam jaapayanj pujayaami tam Na cha Lingaarchanaat Punyam Lokesmin bheetinaashanam, Tathaa Linge hitaaaishaam lokaanaam Pujayecchivam Yoham tallingamityaahur Vedavaada vido janaah, Tatohamaatma meeshaanam Puja- yaamyaatmanaiva tu Tasyaiva Paramaa Murtistanmayoham na samshayah, Naavayorvidyatey bhedo Vedeyshvevam vinischayah Yesha Devo Mahaadevah sadaa samsaara bheerubhih, Dhyeyaha Pujascha Vandyascha Jneyo Lingey Maheshwarah
I think this question is like asking a child who created you, your mother or father? 😅 In simple words all are equally important and are required at different times. 😃
ॐ नमः शिवाय। विश्व के नाथ विश्वनाथ आदि अन्नत निराकार निर्गुण संपूर्ण आदिनाथ पंच भूतों के नाथ भूतनाथ स्वयंभू जगत पिता ना आदि ना अंत इस अस्तित्व के एक मात्र सत्य परम पिता परमेश्वर परमात्मा भोलेनाथ जी की सदा जय हो। जय शिव शंकर 🔱।
Read shiv puran also once.... Shiva says....it's me only who is referred as par bhramha..from me Vishnu's existence came...,.. I am everything and I am nothing..... No one created me ..... I am the one who created all... Shiva = Vishnu Har har mahadev🙏🏻❤️ Radhe radhe ❤️🙏🏻
But he does not have the qualities of krishna. krishna can be like a parent,child,brother,sister,lover,etc which that shiva doesn't have because he never had a parent or sister
If you Are A true Devotee You Shouldn't Worry about who Is Supreme And Who is Not Once A Devotee Always A Devotee Whether Your Ista Is Superior Or Not Doesn't Matters.
Shiv Mahimna Stotram - Text 18 Rathah kshoni yanta shata-dhriti-ragendro dhanuratho rathange candrarkau rathacarana-panih shara iti, didhakshoste ko’yam tripura-trina-madambara-vidhir- vidheyaih kridantyo na khalu paratantrah prabhu-dhiyah. When You wanted to burn the three cities of the demons - which were but a piece of straw to You-the earth was Your chariot, Brahma Your charioteer, the great mountain Meru Your bow, the sun and the moon the wheels of Your chariot, Vishnu Your arrow. Why all this paraphernalia? The Lord is not dependent on others. He was only playing with things at His command. (18)
BTW Lord Shiva mentions in the EESHVARA GEETA "अहम् हि भगवानीशः स्वयं ज्योतिः सनातनः । परमात्मा परं ब्रह्म मत्तो हि अन्य न विद्यते ।।" I am the only Supreme Lord, the eternal Light itself. The Supreme Soul, the Supreme Brahman for there is none other than Me.( eeshvara geeta | kurma purana | 6.51 )
He also said Padma Purana, Uttarakhanda chapter 253, verse 176 ārādhanānāṁ sarveṣāṁ viṣṇor ārādhanaṁ param tasmāt parataraṁ devi tadīyānāṁ samarcanam
Lord Śiva told the goddess Durgā, 'My dear Devī, although the Vedas recommend worship of demigods, the worship of Lord Viṣṇu is topmost. However, above the worship of Lord Viṣṇu is the rendering of service to Vaiṣṇavas, who are related to Lord Viṣṇu.
@@sunilkatta1696 yuge yuge tu kṛṣṇena toṣito vai maheśvaraḥ | bhaktyā paramaya caiva prītiścaiva mahātmanaḥ || In each and every Yuga , Krishna manifested himself from Goloka Vrindavana to this earth (bhuloka or mrityuloka) and pleased Lord Siva with the utmost devotion . Lord Siva bestowed grace on his Parama Bhakta Krishna . - Mahabharata , Anusasana Parvam , Chapter 14 , Verse 13
Krishna called himself Supreme Personality to make us understand the concept of Parbrahm, which is the basis of all living beings and that we all are Brahm, the portions of Parbrahm.
I beg to disagree🙏 Human race started much before Krishna, & by the designs of Bhrahma, Vishnu & Shiva! Krishna was the most charismatic avtar of Vishnu at the same time a yogi of the utmost degree🙏 True, for any practical reason & for a human there is no better Guru than Krishna🙏
Bhagavad-Gita 9.25: yānti deva-vratā devān pitṝn yānti pitṛ-vratāḥ bhūtāni yānti bhūtejyā yānti mad-yājino 'pi mām Those who worship the demigods will take birth among the demigods; those who worship the ancestors go to the ancestors; those who worship ghosts and spirits will take birth among such beings; and those who worship Me will live with Me.
Bhagavadageeta Is a part of Mahabhaarata and the same krishna says who differentiate between me and Rudra are Mandabuddhi... Vyaasaya vishnuroopaaya Vyaasaroopaaya vishnave in vishnusahasranaama🙏 Bcoz of these kind of Shishyaas there was rift between dwaita-adwaita and vishishtaadvaita Siddhaanta...This iskcon is one
Shiva said "Of all the worships, Vishnu's worship is great" but Shiva didn't said that Vishnu is supreme. Shiva might have said this because Vishnu's job is preserving and so he acts fast to help devotees in preserving dharma. I'm not a Shaiva, not a Vaishnava and not a Shaktheya. I believe that Prabrahman is formless and from that formlessness, he incarnates as SadaShiva/Krishna/Maha Shakti Lalita or Durga bhavani.
@Naveen Kumar. "I believe that." It is your responsibility to study the Scriptures. Whatever you believe is of no importance to us. Whatever you believe is solely your responsibility.
@@madanagopal4736 Then you should also read Shiva purana, Devi Bhagavatam and also Vedas. You study only one sect of scriptures and claim that Vishnu is supreme. What about other scriptures then? Some say that Shiva is supreme and some say Shakti is supreme and some say Vishnu is supreme. It is you that who don't have proper knowledge and still imposing your half knowledge on this society! Educate yourself first
@@naveennarayana_ "Some say that Shiva is Supreme and some say Shakti is Supreme and some say Vishnu is Supreme.". ISKCON is preaching Srimad Bhagavatam, the 18th Purana written by Srila Vyasadeva, the son of Parasar Muni. You can preach any of the 18 Puranas.
@@madanagopal4736 wow! Amazing! Then what about Devi Bhagavatam? It's been written by the same Veda Vyasa who wrote Bhagavatam and Maha Bharatam. Do you even know this? I don't think so! Because you are a half to no knowledge person who only depends on an organisation like ISKCON! And by the way, do you know anything about Shankaracharya? Let me educate you! Shankaracharya is not a Shaiva. He established smartha tradition! "You might be thinking why this person is talking about Shankaracharya now" . The reason is Shankaracharya is also in the guru parampara of Sri Veda Vyasa! Shankaracharya's Guru is Govindha Gouda padha who is a shishya of Veda Vyasa himself! So Shankaracharya is in Sriman Narayana's guru parampara. Yet Shankaracharya also says that Supreme God is nirakara and takes these forms based on requirements. Shankaracharya also said that Lalita Tripura Sundari as the Supreme mother and she acts as wife of Sada Shiva & Shakti of Maha Vishnu. Veda Vyasa mentioned that Krishna himself is the supreme God in Bhagavatam & in Bhagavad Gita but also the same Veda Vyasa mentioned again that Devi is the supreme in Devi Bhagavatam! What do you understnd by this? Supreme Entity is none other that Krishna, Supreme Entity is none other than SadaShiva & the Same supreme entity is Mahamaya Sri Lalita Tripura Sundari. There is no difference between them. But you see them as different because of Maya.
@@naveennarayana_ Sir, this is the Philosophy/Siddhānta of Vaiṣṇavism. In Hinduism, there are many Sampradāyas like Śrī Vaiṣṇava Sampradāya; Madhvā Sampradāya; Gaudiya Sampradāya etc.. This video is giving the idea of Vaiṣṇava Philosophy. Many Modern Hindus who gain their knowledge from the TV Serials think that there is Only One Type Of Philosophy in Hinduism. That is to consider Vishnu=Brahma=Shiva=Durga. But this is not so. There are many diverse Interpretations and philosophies in our Hinduism. All have the right to share their view point and philosophy. No one here can behead us jut because we shared our view point. Many people say that Formless Brahman Assumes the form of other Gods like Shiva or Vishnu by Material Energy. Vaishnavas disagree with this. For us, Vishnu is always beyond Maya or Material Energy. Similarly, there are Shaiva Sampradāyas like Vīraśaiva in Southern India who have the philosophy that Only Shiva is Supreme but Vishnu is not. Neither the Vaishnavas nor the Shaivas are Disrespecting Vishnu or Shiva. They are just representing their Acharyas and their respective Philosophies. For us (i.e., Vaishnavas), Lord Shiva is very respectful. Even his foot dust is precious for us. Our Acharya Śrī Sanatana Goswāmī also has the Darshan of Lord Shiva has instructed to always respect and beg the mercy of Shiva. Because he is very merciful and can give us the Bhakti or devotion for Śrī Śrī Rādhā Kṛṣṇa. If any idiot like Zakir Naik tries to disrespect either Kṛṣṇa or Shiva or Durga we will vehemently refute/oppose such persons. We have diverse philosophies but we will have to acknowledge and respect each other's philosophy. We may have disagreements but we should be very well aware of such beautiful diversities.
Shiva is formless as well as Physical. He can live as formless and yet he can take form and perform different activities like destroying the evil.. in order to balance the Universe. Shiva is worshipped in 2 ways, one way is worship of Shivling which symbolises the omnipresent and formless nature of Shiva. The other way of worshipping is the Idol- Physical form of Shiva i.e. with long hair, Goddess Ganga in hair and snake around neck. So in the end, I would say that he is Almighty, so he is not restricted upto formless state, he can obviously take a Physical form as well. Lord Shiva in Linga form, represents his formless nature. He is in everything, in everyone.
God Shiva is supreme, everything is Him and made my Him. Shiva is Aadi ( from times immemorial ), Ananth ( everywhere ) and Sanatana ( eternal ). Shiva is the benign aspect, whereas the contrast Rudra is Shiva's ferocious form. Shiva beheaded his own Son Lord Ganesh, to relieve him from his arrogance, thus shows Shiva treats everyone equally. And He is not partial even towards His family members. Shiva leads a simple ascetic Yogi, and down to earth life. Shiva as the father punishes His devotees, but later when his devotees realize their mistakes, Shiva again forgives them. Shiva is the aatma Rudra, the soul , the energy in every living being. Shiva is the Aadi Yogi, and has the entire cosmic and yogic energy stored in His third Eye and became Tryambaka ( three eyed God). Shiva is the father of the entire Universe, He saved the Universe by drinking the Halahal ( poison ), no one except Shiva had the power to survive even after consuming the poison. Shiva's trident ( the three spikes ) remove the three gunas namely Rajas, Tamas and Sattva. Shiva's another form is Veerabhadra, the head of Shiva's army. Shiva ganas are friends and companions to Shiva, and stay with him on Kailash. Shiva is the moksha provider for all living beings. Shiva's way of punishing anyone is different and He does this only to take away their arrogance / anger and thus reforms them. Lord Brahma and Lord Vishnu couldn't find the start (birth ) of Shiva. God Shiva is often referred as Bholenath, the innocent God. As He is pleased very easily. He doesn't differentiate among his devotees, so Shiva granted boons to everyone and many asuras too. He is Pashupathi nath, God and saviour of all animals. Shiva gives us all the amenities and luxuries , and as a sacrificing father stays in the Burial ground ( Rudra Kshetra ). Shiva is the Jagadaika_poshana, meaning He is the food provider for all of us. Shiva is the Mahakaal, the God for time. Shiva smears ash on his body, since the ultimate truth of life is Ash. He doesn't give importance to any materialistic things. He is the Aadi Yogi, who taught us about meditation. At one instance you see Him as a yogi, and in another instance you see Him as Shankara, the family man. Shiva taught us about doing our Karma and being detached with the end result, and even with people and relationships. Shiva teaches us to stand on our word, thus Shiva became an enemy to Daksha by saving moon from Daksha’s curse. Shiva's nataraj form is the Cosmic dance of Shiva, where in He dissolves everyone and everything into Him. Shiva was there before anything existed and will be there, even after everything is destroyed.
Krishna himself used to do Shiva puja daily. The scriptures glorify Shakti Mother, Shiva , Vishnu as supreme in different places. We don't need this abrahamjc lense that Iskcon is hell bent on pushing. This is the most irritating thing.
@@maanasperumalla7737 in Mahabharata and across scriptures and different prayers. Krishna also advised Arjuna to do penance to please lord Shiva for the gandiva.
ISKCON has a very Catholic approach to Sanatna Dharma. Brahman manifests in different forms at different times, it's Kali its Durga, it shiva Vishnu etc. Krishna is just one incarnation of the supreme ultimate reality. Durga for example is the supreme godhead for her worshippers.
@UCy-kInGYOW-no8QdnY5HMiA It's okay brother..... When you're in Krishna's love ❤ you see krishna everywhere and Krishna is the biggest for you....... Respect such a soul who loves Krishna......... Jay Shri Krishna 🦚🙏🦚🙏🦚
Alright, let's see! Who among us mere mortals is intelligent enough to conclude anything according to the very finite perception of the world we have? So let's see what our Vedas say! Has any of us ever noticed that no matter what the Puja is or to whomever the offering is or whoever is the residing deity of that particular Puja, it doesn't matter. The shloka for purification before the Puja prescribed by the Vedas is 100 percent of the time "Om apavitro pavitro va sarvaavastham gatopi va, ya smaret pundarikaksham bahyabhyantarah suchihi. Atinila ghanashyamam nalinayatalochanam smarami pundarikaksham tena snato bhavami aham." Why in this mantra do we ask Ghanashyam to purify us and our offerings for proper Puja and why not the residing deity for the Puja? Because no matter which deity we are offering it to, ultimately it's going to The Supreme Lord who is Prajapati, and the Vedas call him Krishna! If you have only seven days for God realisation and you ask a highly exalted and enlightened saint to make you perfect in those seven days, why would that saint make you hear the Shrimad Bhagwatam rather that any other of the 18 puranas? And even if that saint( Sri Sukadeva Goswami) was wrong, why didn't all those great personalities like Narada, Vyasa dev himself and other Rishis and Munis restrict him? That's because Sri Sukadeva Goswami was speaking the ultimate truth! It's not the vision or love you have that lets you realise God by his tattva but it is your genuine curiosity for realising the absolute truth! And history shows such Curiosity called Brahm-Jigyansa leads you to the Truth which is Sri Krishna! Let us not try to fight in regards with putting lord Shiva or lord Krishna or anyone such on top based only on our love and beliefs. Because no matter who you believe to the be the supreme, ultimately you reach to the absolute truth by one way or the other! Lord Shiva is Adiguru and Param Vaishnav, the Gopeshwar( who is the best of the Gopis) who definitely uplifts every living soul's consciousness to the supreme truth! Hare Krishna!
Krishna never started his day without doing Shiva Puja.
Where is it mentioned?
@@maanasperumalla7737 in Mahabharatam lord Krishna did great penance for Siva acquiring children
@@satyanaraharimallisetty Where in the Mahabharata?
@@maanasperumalla7737Mahabharata Drona parva and also in many parts of Sauptika parva...
It's highly known and evident fact for all of them who sincerely follow true scriptures unlike Iskcon's fanatics who follow sectarian and bogus scriptures..
In reality it's not even a debate, every true Hindu who follows Vedas know that Lord Sadāshiva is the supreme lord... some Vaishnavas have started their fallacies since 900 years...
Varanasi pura patim bhaja Vishwanatham 🙏
Shiva Krishna still equality no difference 🙇🙌🙏
Lord Krishna : Lord Shiva is supreme
Lord Shiva : Lord Krishna/Vishnu is supreme
Jai Harihar🧡🕉
A true devotee never compares. The deity he/she worship is above all for him no matter if that is maa durga aur shiv ji, shree ram or shree krishna
Shri krishna is not god at all
@@vedanth6787Bro 💀
Lord Krishna said"Only a bhedbuddhi can differentiate between me and maheshwara."
Where is this stated?
@@maanasperumalla7737 To educate people that there is no difference between Hari and Har.The shastras says that differentiating between Hari and Har is one of the topmost sin and also topmost vaishnav apradha.
@@borah3093 Where is it stated in the shastras?
@@maanasperumalla7737 "Where is it stated in the Shastras ?" I am also interested in the answer of @Hirohito.
This is stated in Narada purana and some parts of Varaha Purana too... This is just puranic and have no importance as puranas are mythologies..
When you ask Vedas Rigveda clearly says Brahma < Vishnu < Shiva..
Rigveda 9.96.5 says Vishnu is son of Shiva.
Yajurveda 2.31 says Vishnu is born out of Shiva.
Atharvaveda 15.14.5 says Vishnu is sprung out of Shiva.
But still people debate without knowing these facts..
It's clear and there's no debate..
Lord Sadāshiva is the supreme god...
Krishna is the complete form of Shree Hari Vishnu ji and is equivalent to Mahadev and Brahmaji 🙏🏼
not brahma yaar kyu nhi smjhte ho tum log shiva and krishna are same they are supreme they are one they are immortal they are parmeshwar but brahma is a demigod, his life is fixed and endup one day he is not even immortal
You can't say that. Krishna is a path of enlightenment of samsara and shiva is the path of renouncing the samsara, by enlightenment. In both the cases, enlightenment is the ultimate goal. Krishna is the Modest, shiva is the ultimate life itself. Shiva means, "Bhija", seed of life. His power is Dhyana. IF YOU LOVE SHIVA, U WILL LOVE HIS MADHAVA. IF YOU LOVE MADHAVA, YOU WILL LOVE SHIVA.
Absolutely 🍁🌱
Hare Krishna
Absolutely right. Krishna loves Shiva and when we worship Shiva we get Braj Prem. The Love of residents of Vrindavan to Krishna. Lord Shiva is the controller of the Tamo Guna in Samsara. And the Gunas.. Sattva Rajas and Tamas they all come From Krishna as Krishna himself says in the Gita.
When you attain Krishna your goal of life is fulfilled.
True you say har har mahadev , I'll say hare krishna the path is different but the goal and culture is same...
@@devakinair6544Cooked up Iskcon story...
Mandukyopanishat says Shiva is beyond all 3 guṇas..
And where in Vedas ur Krishna is called BHAGAVAN ?.
Vedas adore only Shiva as Bhagavan...
True
Hare Krishna prabhuji 🙇
Haribol! 🪴🪴🪴
नास्ती शंभू सम पूज्यों ❤
Namah Parvati pateh har har Mahadev.
Krishna clearly said in BhagvadGita verse 7.7 :
"mattaḥ parataraṁ nānyat kiñchid asti dhanañjaya
mayi sarvam idaṁ protaṁ sūtre maṇi-gaṇā iva"
Which means ->
There is nothing higher than Myself, O Arjun. Everything rests in Me, as beads strung on a thread.
And hence, the original personality of Godhead(Adi-Purush) and the supreme God, is none other than Lord Shri Krishna
That is a silly argument. There was there is no one who has the six opulences to the extent that Sri Krishna does
@@garygrunstein634 😁 But I want him to say this that no one is equal to him as well the way he says no one is above me, 😁 Only then I'll accept it, 😁
Jay Shri Krishna 🦚🙏🦚🙏🦚
@@newhope5729 rip English
@@PrabhupadaDas It's okay I'm not in an English class lol
@@newhope5729 English class Is meant to study English not to speak English ☠️
Never compare between 3 all mighties.They all have different powers you cannot even imagine.
He have gone through scriptures we can't say him anything only the person who have gone through scriptures can do shastrat with him
@@hiteshkumar8024 Lol, Isk☪️oni✝️es ar scripture, shashtra gyan ka dur dur tak koi sampark nhi hai
Very nice 🙏❤️🌞Supreme Lord Vishnu
Hare Krishna
When a vishnu avatar is considered supreme, that's good news! It means he preserves the world while destroying evil. So, preservation of the world is the primary focus.
Hare Krishna ♥️🌹🙏
Very beautifully explained
Jai Shree Radha Krishna...🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
krishn is small ATOM of lord VISHNU..
Krishna is the Supreme absolute truth 🌹💖💘💪Krishna is swayam
Well , they worship each other .... 🙏
Hare Krishna 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙇🏻♂️🙇🏻♂️❤❤❤❤❤❤❤......❤❤❤❤❤❤.....
Bhagwan Shiv Ne Maa Parvati se kaha : Uma Kahau mai Anubhava apna, Satt Hari Bhajana Jagath Sab Sapna.. Jai Shree Krishna Jai Shree Ram Chandra. Har Har Mahadev 🙏❤️
No one is above Lord SHIVA.....OM Namah Shivay
Correct
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@@ganeshsuroshe444 bhagwat gita ch7 matta prataram na anyat...padhlo phir aake yahan pe diarrhoea karna
@@Sachisha3009 Vedas say shiv is Supreme? Why do vishnu bhakt like to insult Lord Shiva by addressing him as a demigod while it is clearly written in Vedas that he himself is the Almighty God?
When the Vedas clearly mentions about no idols and no forms of god, why are there so many gods in Hinduism? Who is Rama, Vishnu, Shiva, etc.? Is it just human imagination?
For this answer no Purans can be trusted for the people who are true unbiased seekers, Purans carry heavy contradiction in these matters if only one or two are read, And they have been manipulated by cultists to some extent, also they are meant for lower worldly mind set, Vedas also called as Shruti have greratest authority over all other scriptures like Smriti, Purans, Samhitas, Shastras etc, Even when trinity has doubts they would adhere with Verdict of Vedas, Even no god form is greater than Vedas.
When i read few Purans i also became confused, but then had greater intensity and curiosity to find truth, i made lots of efforts read All Purans, Upnisahds, Vedas Bramhans Aranyaks, Tantra., Agam, etc and then found that actually even purans have no contradiction, but as materialistic people are dumb and can believe anything, they after say knowing about one god, never try to ascertain truth, for them this is ego question what they think right no matter if it is false, they would just believe in there sheer imagination no fact or truth.
To ascertain this matter Only Vedas can be real judge, So let us see what these Four Vedas tell about God head, or supreme God personality who has no body above or beyond, and when Vedas declare about him they mean every word categorically not allegorically, In Vedas Once
In Shwetashwatar Upnishad, all Rishis have assembled together and did Shastrarth research on Param Bramha God, they came to know that discussion wont be able to establish the truth hence they all meditated for several celestial years with an inquiry that who is that one from whom everything comes and merges in, who is existent before time who is that One Final God of Gods who has no body above, nothing beyond. And after many years and continuous Samadhi (Ultra Aplha State of Mind) it was Revealed to Bramha Rishi, Shwetashwatar he got enlightened and he floating in ether with immense bliss and divine illumination declared to all Rishis Thus spake the great Rishi in second shloka mantra of third adhyay (chapter) of Shwetashwatar Upnishad of YajurVeda, which is one of the prime 6 Upnishads :-
Eko hi Rudro na dvitīyāya tasthurya imāṃl lokān īśata īśanībhiḥ /
pratyaṅ janās tiṣṭhati saṃcukocāntakāle saṃsṛjya viśvā bhuvanāni gopāḥ // 3.2 //
@@Sachisha3009 Shiva/rudra is truly and the only one; for the knowers of Brahman do not admit the existence of a second, He Rudra alone rules all the worlds by His powers. He dwells as the inner Self of every living being. After having created all the worlds, He, their Protector, takes them back into Himself at the end of time.
Here it is very very clearly Vedas declared finally, not just because of emotions and need as you will find Devas eulogizing any god when they need only, or because of Devotion which is emotional aspect of mind, and here is the existent reality the truth found by all enlightened Rishis, beyond mind absolute bliss, all throughout the scriptures. This is fact and Logic too, Shivas Ansha Kalagni Rudra extinct all all even God,s like Mahavishnu etc also merge in him, No thing remains only Rudra exists hence creation can only start from him, this is him, who was before even singularity.
Here they say, clearly Eko hi Rudro, Only Rudra is na dwiteeyay, none other at all, no one is equal to him as, he is Only entity who is Unique, else all is Maya only. He is the one who is called The only self sustaining father of Mahavishnu bramah and trinities and all Gods and infinite Universes.
Now one can say that Vishnu is also God, yes it is true, no doubt, yet let us see Mahanarayan Upnishad There also surely Rishis worshiped Narayan sung his eulogies as this Upnishad is about him only he is PoornBramhan certainly in this Upnishad, as Shiva once ordered Vedas to sing his sukta as God as One among Panch Bramhans. But when the question arose who is greatest God of all who has no body above or beyond, here Rishis are not cultists or just emotional believers of some biased pseudo guru, they are true masters they would never lie but present truth as they witnessed it, So here let us see What Mahanarayan Upnishad mentions about greatest God who has no body above who makes trinity, etc and is master owner father of all Gods, including Mahanarayan Bramha Vishnu etc.
Here they discuss about greatest God the Finality to whom shall they devote themselves the final greatest God as they say here Kim Deva Havisha Vidhem, they also conferred that God to be Shiva Rudra only and this is Vaishnav Upanishad you can check i am mentioning chapters etc.
In adhyay (chapter) 2 rishis contemplate on who is the final god to which we may offer our greatest oblations, from 1 to 19 shloka they discuss about it, and in 21 st shloka they invoke agni and than they declare.
Purushasya Vidmam Sahstraakshas Mahadevasya Dheemahi Tanno Rudrah Prachodayat.
We desire to go towards Mahadev Rudra who is omnipotent having Thousands of eyes he is Greatest God of all Gods, our mind heart and intellect must always be with his divinity, bliss and Benevolence.
Than again at anuvak 12 of this upanishads declares.
Yo Devanam Prabhavashchodbhavashch Vishwadhipo Rudro Maharshih Hiranyagarbham janyamas Poorvam sano Budhya Shudhya sanyunaktu.
We bow to the one who is sole master of universe who creates this universe all beings and Gods sustains them by his power and he merges them back in himself may such great lord bless us with divine bliss full intellect with devotion.
Than from 19th anuvaak panch bramha mantras of shiva are given namely Sadyojat mantra, Vaamdev mantra, Tatpurush Mantra, Aghora Mantra, and Ishan mantra.I
Now see yourself that even Vaishnav Upnishad eulogize him as greatest God Lord of all Gods, not only this upanishad but Shakta and other upanishads of other Shakshas branches like of Gyan Yoga Shakha who worship formless form only also worship Shiva and consider him Greatest among all Gods.
Gayatri rahsyopnishad , A Shakta Upnishad declared that the God of Gayatri mantra is Sadashiva the goal of gayatantra is Rudra only
Devasya iteendro devo dyotat iti, sa indrastasmat sarvapurusho naam Rudrah.
The God who is beyond senses and mind who is God and maker of all Gods, we know the Lord of this mantra as Sadashiva but none other.
Now about Gyan shakhas Upanishad, they are gyan and Yoga based Upnishads and many of them clearly mention Shiva as Greatest goal of All Yogis, and Gods. Here is one Amritnadopnishad, the upnishad belonging to this Shakha are never tilted towards any God, But they state truth of Gods as they witnessed and experienced them. Its first chapters second shloka , 1.2
Omkaar rath marumhya Vishnumkritvarth sarthimBramha loka padaanveshi Rudra raadhan tatparah
Taking Omkar mantra as your chariot make shree Vishnu your Guru, the one who desires to achieve beyond Bramhaloka (immense bliss of shiva) must always worship Rudra with devotion and diligence.
This clears distinction that Vishnu can be taken as Guru a Guide yet goal of all Bramh gyanis is Shiva Rudra only. He is the highest.
Vedas declare Rudra as Pashupati, pahshu are not animals here but being bounded with pancpasahs, five boundations are Pashus, this included all gods including Vishnu bramha etc, and they have performed PashuPat Vrata to appease Shiva who can set them free from animalistic insitincts, Vishnu performed Pashupat Vrata always and in his avatars and shiva has made him free from pasuthva, Here is the description in Vedas about Pahsupati Shiva.
“Sarwe Deva Pashutamvapu Swayam Tasmat Pashupatir Babhoov”. (Yajur Veda)
The one in front of whom all Gods including Bramha and Vishnu have accepted there animal instinct, and declared him as Pashupati The lord of all gods and all beings.
How he came to be known as such, Here is the description-:Yajur Veda, 6th Kanda, 2nd Prasna, 3rd Anuvaka and 12th Mantra.
Mahapuram Jayantiti ta ishum Samas Kurva to gnium anikan Soman Salyam Vishum Tejanam the bruvan ka imam asishatita Rudra iti aleruvan rudro vai Krura; Somya twiti, sobravit Varam Vrina aham eva Pasunam Adhipatirasaniti tasmat rudrah Pasunam adhipatishtam rudrova Srijat Satisra Puro bhitva ebhyo: lokebhys Suran pranudata.
"There were the three cities of iron, silver, and gold (belonging) to Asuras. The gods not being able to win them (by fight) wished to win them by siege. (The great) say that He (the Brahmin &c), who knows (what ought to be known) and he (the non-Brahmin &c), who does not know - they are able to win by seige the great city which cannot be overtaken by fight
:Then the gods made an arrow composed of Agni as (the bottom hilt) Soma as (the middle) iron and Vishnu as (the top) and declared (consulted) who will discharge it, and determined None but MahaRudra, (was) as only and Greatest God amongst them all, being capable of discharging such an apocalyptic weapon which carried all the weight and might of all Devas.
Upon hearing such request) He (The Rudra) said the boon was made over, From Now on whole Universe must know the truth and accept that I am the Lord of Infinite Cosmos, all of you, all Gods and all beings are my Pashus (pets afflicted by five pashas ), hence all are Pashus both the two-footed Devas and manushyas and four-footed; So Rudra the Lord of Pashus, The Pashunampatim discharged it, broke up these three cities, and blew them up all from these worlds."
Aum namo bhagavate RudrAya.
Now some excerpts from all vedas as Vedas are full of Rudra Shivas eulogies and greateness, The Yajurvedic Rudrashtdhayi is longest eulogy in Vedas for any single God head ever, Nothing is so great and repeteadly mentioned in all Vedas.
Now though Shiva is of course supreme god, but he is quite strange in his leelas, He is in habit of making Gods out of his servants, Those who worship him rightly to become God have been made god by him, Like Vishnu and Bramha both wanted to be gods and worshiped, as they fought against each other ShivLinga fire vortex emerged between them which they could not found origin or end, Hence Vishnu worshipe dNirakar Shivalinga but Bramha Lied, So Shiva cursed Bramha that he would not be worshiped but only in yagna and For Vishnu he gave boon that , you will be known as god and your devotees will worship you as god, and those who are true devotees or yours and respect worship me too would be blessed by me too.
So when some believers say Krishna is God or Rama is god than it is true, as they are parts of Vishnu and Vishnu is made God by his Lord Sadashiva, this states Mahabaharat how Shiva made Vishnu a God.
So we respect and worship actually pancbramhan and they can be considered god, surely and all Sanatana followers must worship them surely no matter who there ishta is.
So no arguements or contests, believers can beleive for those who consider other forms as god, for them that form is God, like for Vishnu worshipers he is surely god, yet His Own God is Sadashiva without a doubt, So we respect all but this is truth or Vedas about Rudra Shiva.
And one more thing not even Vedas but science also accepts Shiva as a possibility of God Manifested because of science of his Tantras, they also found that this shivalinga is ellipsoid shape and this is only way harness mega energies they conquer that ShivLinga like cosmic particle or quantum unified field was reason of Big Bang and for that they have installed a Huge Nataraja in front of Hadron collidor worlds most powerful most expensive nuclear reactor Machine which even can make a black hole . So About Shiva no body needs beliefs, all these puny beliefs are Lies meant for falsifiable doubtful things for truth no one needs to believe and Shiva is as True as This universe.
Jai Shree krishna
The way he delivered gives Amarendra Das Prabhu Jii's vibes ✨♥
HARE KRISHNA
RADHE RADHE
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He is the student of amarendra prabhu
@@sainikhilgshv4274 ohh...thank you for the information 😁
Logo ko problem hoti h unke bhakt unhe supreme kyu bolte jo ki unhe kabhi samjh nahi aane krishna hi har jagha par h kahi woh shiv ji ke naam se puje jaate h Or kahi swayam khud ya kahi or kisi god ke rup me Hare krishna🙏
Jai shree ram
JAI SHREE RADHE KRISHNA ♥️🙏♥️
Trust karne jaisa nhi hai Har Har Mahadev
I believe krishna is supreme power of God.... radhekrishna...thank u for valuable information...
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Yes Krishna is one of the greatest energies of Lord Shiva...
Good video.. Hare Krishna.. Now u have given Scripture Sastric Vedic Proof.. No doubt.. Yes Brahma And Shivji Glorifying Krsna as Supreme God many times in Vedic Scriptures..
Hare Krishna.. Jai Srila Prabhupada..
Kanha yeh bhi khte hain ki jo mujh mein aur Mahadev mein bhed kre woh mujhe kbhi praapt nhi kr skta
Supreme Lord Krishna 🙏💓
These ISKCON people haven't seen Shri Krishna or Shiva in real nor they know them personally. But, they are declaring to the world that Krishna is supreme. In spirituality, the real sadhana is more important than the unwanted discussions like these.
Yes bro it seems that they're planning to divide ➗ us as devotees of Shiva and Vishnu. As it happened in 1300 AD
@Vinayak Dixit. "they are declaring to the world that Krishna is supreme.". We are not declaring ; Lord Shri Krishna Himself is declaring. In the Bhagavad-gita , Lord Shri Krishna says : 'there is no truth superior to Me (mattah para-taram na-anyat kinchit). Everything rests upon Me, as pearls are strung on a thread.' (Bhagavad-gita, Chapter 7, Verse 7).
@@madanagopal4736 bhai jara mere dobts clear kr do tum bht gyani lgte ho. Bas Itna pucha tha only Krishna kaise supreme hai? Kyuki Mostly sastro Me Shiva ko hi supreme God btaya hai to tum kis bases pr bol rhe Ho?
@@vivekchoudhary9114 . :"Kyuki mostly Sastro me Shiva ko hi supreme God btaya hai , to tum kis bases pr bol rhe ho ?" ANSWER : - 1. There are 6 Puranas meant for people who are under the influence of Tamo-Guna. In these Puranas it is mentioned that Lord Shiva is the Supreme. - 2. There are 6 Puranas meant for people who are under the influence of Rajo-Guna. In these Puranas it is mentioned that Lord Brahma is the Supreme. - 3. There are 5 Puranas meant for people who are under the influence of Sattva-Guna. In these Puranas it is mentioned that Lord Vishnu is the Supreme. - 4. There is the 18th Purana, named Shrimad Bhagavatam. In the Shrimad Bhagavatam it is mentioned that Lord Shri Krishna is the Supreme. CONCLUSION : You can preach from any of these 18 Puranas. WHY ? Because all the 18 Puranas are written by Vyasadeva Rishi, the literary Avatar of Lord Shri Vishnu, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. We, from ISKCON, are preaching from the Shrimad Bhagavatam. (Tamo-Guna means : the Mode of Darkness. Rajo-Guna means : the Mode of Passion. Sattva-Guna means : the Mode of Goodness.)
Shakti ek hi hai ab jis nam se pujo , is sbse koi fayda nahi Radhey Radhey ❤️
But Krishna was Shiva devotee. He never started his day without worshipping Shivaling. Even on the days of war be didn't forget to worship Shiva.
Vishnu and Shiva are one and same in core.
No bro. They are not same..
Rigveda clearly says Brahma < Vishnu < Shiva. How can you say both are same? just for Harmony and secularism..
@@dedicatedbeing.6998 They are same Shiva is consciousness within a individual and Vishnu is source of consciousness. Both are complete that's why in Indic thought any individual can reach the perfection and dissolving themselves into Brahman and attain moksa.
It's a fact that both Ram and Krishna were Shiva devotees.
Radhe Radhe 🙏❤️
Har aur Hari alag nhi h... Kya bachho ki tarah argument kr rhe ho❤️
अधूरा ज्ञान सबसे ज्यादा खतरनाक होता है माया सबसे खतरनाक है
TRUE.
We don't spend our younger days to read the Bagvatgita,and the siva Puranas.
3 are one. We have to be United
Every atom is controlled by them.
All the 3 are Supreme.
Let's not say Shiva or Krishna or Brahma thy guide us.
Through their teachings, through Gurus..Hare Krishna
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ब्रह्म परम ज्ञान है, विष्णु परम आनंद है और शिव परम वैराग्य है। इन तीनों के मिश्रण से परम तत्व बना है। इसमें कोई कम ज्यादा नहीं है। इसे न मानकर अपनी धारणा में किसी को सुप्रीम बताना अज्ञानता का लक्षण है। यह तो चार अंधे एक हाथी के अलग अलग अंग को छू कर अपने दिमाग से उसका वर्णन करने वाले कथा जैसा हो गया। ऐसे अंध आज भी समाज में है यह हमारा दुर्भाग्य है।
Hari bol 🙌 hare krishna 🤍
The one who is born from a human cannot be supreme... Only shambhu is supreme.
Even Brahma and Vishnu were not able to find the end of the fire Shiva Linga..
किरीटे निशेशो ललाटे हुताशो
भुजे भोगिराजो गले कालिमा च ।
तनौ कामिनी यस्य तत्तुल्यदेवं
न जाने न जाने न जाने न जाने ॥
Har Har Mahadev 🙏
Hare Krishna 🙏😊🙏
Lord Krishna is the greatest Shaiva.
Lord Krishna to Markandeya: (Markandeya! Whatever you said is in order and the Truth is that I am worship-worthy by others; but still I worship Ishaana(Lord Shiva); there is nothing that I cannot achieve a thing, nor is unavailable to me; yet I am aware that I perform Puja to Parama Shiva. Those who are unable to overcome Maya or Illusion could never achieve Shiva Darshana; but I do realize that my foundation is Shiva and hence I always worship Him. There is no better Punya Phala nor fearlessness than what the Sacred Task of Lingaarchana would confer and for accomplishing propitiousness human beings must resort to Shiva Puja, Shri Krishna affirms. Those who realise and experience Vedic Siddhaantaas (Principles) do recognise that Shiva Linga is my own Swarupa and that is precisely why I perform my own worship of the Atma Swarupa of Ishana, says Krishna. He further confirms I am Shankara’s Parama Murti and I am Shankara myself without doubt. Vedas have emphasised that there is no differernce whatsoever and Krishna and Shiva are just the same. This is the reason why that one should instal Shiva Linga all over!)
Kurma Purana chap 25
Bhavataa kathitam sarvam tathyameva na samshayaha,
Tathaapi Devameeshaanaam Pujayaami Sanaatanam
Na mey vipraasti kartavyam naanavaaptam kathanchana,
Pujayaami tathaapeesham jaanannetat Param Shivam
Na vai pashyanti tam Devam Maayayaa mohitaa janaah,
Tatoham swaatmano mulam jaapayanj pujayaami tam
Na cha Lingaarchanaat Punyam Lokesmin bheetinaashanam,
Tathaa Linge hitaaaishaam lokaanaam Pujayecchivam
Yoham tallingamityaahur Vedavaada vido janaah,
Tatohamaatma meeshaanam Puja- yaamyaatmanaiva tu
Tasyaiva Paramaa Murtistanmayoham na samshayah,
Naavayorvidyatey bhedo Vedeyshvevam vinischayah
Yesha Devo Mahaadevah sadaa samsaara bheerubhih,
Dhyeyaha Pujascha Vandyascha Jneyo Lingey Maheshwarah
Lord Shiva is the supreme Vaishnava....
@@gaurav9134lord shiva is supreme... Vishnu is a Shaiva
Because he is supreme that's it
Hare Krishna Dandvat Pranam Prabhuji 🙏
ATHMA RAMA ANAND RAMANAM ...... NARAYANA... ALWAYS SUPREME BRO ....
Hare krishna hare krishna hare krishna hare krishna
Hare Krishna!
I think this question is like asking a child who created you, your mother or father? 😅
In simple words all are equally important and are required at different times. 😃
Shivay Vishnurupay Shivrupya Vishnabe.
shivash hridyam Vishnurvishnoscha hridayam Shiva.
yatha Shibamayo Vishnurevang Vishnumayo Shiva
yathahanatarang na vedah syu shivkeshaboyostatha.
------- HariharBrahma strotam
🙏 Hare Krishna 🙏
ॐ नमः शिवाय।
विश्व के नाथ विश्वनाथ
आदि अन्नत
निराकार निर्गुण
संपूर्ण
आदिनाथ
पंच भूतों के नाथ भूतनाथ
स्वयंभू
जगत पिता
ना आदि ना अंत
इस अस्तित्व के एक मात्र सत्य
परम पिता परमेश्वर परमात्मा
भोलेनाथ जी की सदा जय हो।
जय शिव शंकर 🔱।
Radhey Radhey ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
Hari Hari bhedi narkgayami
🙏Hare Krishna 🙏
Read shiv puran also once....
Shiva says....it's me only who is referred as par bhramha..from me Vishnu's existence came...,..
I am everything and I am nothing.....
No one created me .....
I am the one who created all...
Shiva = Vishnu
Har har mahadev🙏🏻❤️
Radhe radhe ❤️🙏🏻
There are many Krishna Souls, They actually came from Beyond Multiverse.
Baba sivji ka param sevak Param saiva srikrishna ki jay ❤️🙏.
हरे कृष्णा
Shiva is one who is not. He is before time and will remain after time. He is supreme
But he does not have the qualities of krishna. krishna can be like a parent,child,brother,sister,lover,etc which that shiva doesn't have because he never had a parent or sister
If you Are A true Devotee You Shouldn't Worry about who Is Supreme And Who is Not Once A Devotee Always A Devotee Whether Your Ista Is Superior Or Not Doesn't Matters.
Shiv Mahimna Stotram - Text 18
Rathah kshoni yanta shata-dhriti-ragendro dhanuratho
rathange candrarkau rathacarana-panih shara iti,
didhakshoste ko’yam tripura-trina-madambara-vidhir-
vidheyaih kridantyo na khalu paratantrah prabhu-dhiyah.
When You wanted to burn the three cities of the demons - which were but a piece of straw to You-the earth was Your chariot, Brahma Your charioteer, the great mountain Meru Your bow, the sun and the moon the wheels of Your chariot, Vishnu Your arrow. Why all this paraphernalia? The Lord is not dependent on others. He was only playing with things at His command. (18)
Shiva and Vishnu are same, but duties are different. We don't have enough vision or understanding to judge who is above than one.
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Jai shree Krishna Jai Shree Radhe Radhe 🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️🌺🌺🌺
Yath bhaavam thath bhavathi
Radhe Krishna 🙏🙏
Vishnu hee Krishna hai
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Har Har Mahadev 🙏 ♥️ ❤️ 💖 😍 ✨️ 🙏
Can't believe a monk is wasting time deciding who is supreme.
Jai sri krishna.. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
🙏🙏🙏Hare Krishna 🙏🙏🙏Jai ho Radha Krishna 🙏🙏🙏
BTW
Lord Shiva mentions in the EESHVARA GEETA
"अहम् हि भगवानीशः स्वयं ज्योतिः सनातनः ।
परमात्मा परं ब्रह्म मत्तो हि अन्य न विद्यते ।।"
I am the only Supreme Lord, the eternal Light itself. The Supreme Soul, the Supreme Brahman for there is none other than Me.( eeshvara geeta | kurma purana | 6.51 )
He also said Padma Purana, Uttarakhanda chapter 253, verse 176 ārādhanānāṁ sarveṣāṁ
viṣṇor ārādhanaṁ param
tasmāt parataraṁ devi
tadīyānāṁ samarcanam
Lord Śiva told the goddess Durgā, 'My dear Devī, although the Vedas recommend worship of demigods, the worship of Lord Viṣṇu is topmost. However, above the worship of Lord Viṣṇu is the rendering of service to Vaiṣṇavas, who are related to Lord Viṣṇu.
@@sunilkatta1696 shiva is iśwara. vishnu is deva.
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yuge yuge tu kṛṣṇena toṣito vai maheśvaraḥ | bhaktyā paramaya caiva prītiścaiva mahātmanaḥ ||
In each and every Yuga , Krishna manifested himself from Goloka Vrindavana to this earth (bhuloka or mrityuloka) and pleased Lord Siva with the utmost devotion . Lord Siva bestowed grace on his Parama Bhakta Krishna .
- Mahabharata , Anusasana Parvam , Chapter 14 , Verse 13
कृष्ण यजुर्वेद - वृक्षेषु मूलसेकेन शाखा: पुष्यंति वै यथा..
शिवरुद्रजापत: प्रीते प्रीतः ऐवस्या देवता
Krishna is supreme
Om Sri RadhaKrishnaya Namaha 🙏🙏🙏
Hare krishna ❤
I cant understand why people can't accept this ultimate truth
Radha Krishna 🙏
Her her mahadav joy sri krishna
Krishna called himself Supreme Personality to make us understand the concept of Parbrahm, which is the basis of all living beings and that we all are Brahm, the portions of Parbrahm.
I beg to disagree🙏
Human race started much before Krishna, & by the designs of Bhrahma, Vishnu & Shiva!
Krishna was the most charismatic avtar of Vishnu at the same time a yogi of the utmost degree🙏
True, for any practical reason & for a human there is no better Guru than Krishna🙏
@Piku. "Human race started much before Krishna." Have you any idea when the human race started to live in the Material Creation ?
He is becoming Daksha Prajapati 😏🤣 Save your head Bro 🤣🤣
Bhagavad-Gita 9.25:
yānti deva-vratā devān
pitṝn yānti pitṛ-vratāḥ
bhūtāni yānti bhūtejyā
yānti mad-yājino 'pi mām
Those who worship the demigods will take birth among the demigods; those who worship the ancestors go to the ancestors; those who worship ghosts and spirits will take birth among such beings; and those who worship Me will live with Me.
Narayan...Narayan❤
Har har mahadev. Rudra is the manifest of shiva worship Lord vishnu. Lord krishan and Lord vishnu worship Lord shiva.
Bhagavadageeta Is a part of Mahabhaarata and the same krishna says who differentiate between me and Rudra are Mandabuddhi...
Vyaasaya vishnuroopaaya
Vyaasaroopaaya vishnave in vishnusahasranaama🙏
Bcoz of these kind of Shishyaas there was rift between dwaita-adwaita and vishishtaadvaita Siddhaanta...This iskcon is one
🙏🙏🙏Hare Krishna 🕉🕉🕉
You are krishna siva and brahma, Me too, 🙏
What is the proof?
@@maanasperumalla7737 ur existence
Shiva said "Of all the worships, Vishnu's worship is great" but Shiva didn't said that Vishnu is supreme. Shiva might have said this because Vishnu's job is preserving and so he acts fast to help devotees in preserving dharma. I'm not a Shaiva, not a Vaishnava and not a Shaktheya. I believe that Prabrahman is formless and from that formlessness, he incarnates as SadaShiva/Krishna/Maha Shakti Lalita or Durga bhavani.
@Naveen Kumar. "I believe that." It is your responsibility to study the Scriptures. Whatever you believe is of no importance to us. Whatever you believe is solely your responsibility.
@@madanagopal4736 Then you should also read Shiva purana, Devi Bhagavatam and also Vedas. You study only one sect of scriptures and claim that Vishnu is supreme. What about other scriptures then? Some say that Shiva is supreme and some say Shakti is supreme and some say Vishnu is supreme. It is you that who don't have proper knowledge and still imposing your half knowledge on this society! Educate yourself first
@@naveennarayana_ "Some say that Shiva is Supreme and some say Shakti is Supreme and some say Vishnu is Supreme.". ISKCON is preaching Srimad Bhagavatam, the 18th Purana written by Srila Vyasadeva, the son of Parasar Muni. You can preach any of the 18 Puranas.
@@madanagopal4736 wow! Amazing! Then what about Devi Bhagavatam? It's been written by the same Veda Vyasa who wrote Bhagavatam and Maha Bharatam. Do you even know this? I don't think so! Because you are a half to no knowledge person who only depends on an organisation like ISKCON! And by the way, do you know anything about Shankaracharya? Let me educate you! Shankaracharya is not a Shaiva. He established smartha tradition! "You might be thinking why this person is talking about Shankaracharya now" . The reason is Shankaracharya is also in the guru parampara of Sri Veda Vyasa! Shankaracharya's Guru is Govindha Gouda padha who is a shishya of Veda Vyasa himself! So Shankaracharya is in Sriman Narayana's guru parampara. Yet Shankaracharya also says that Supreme God is nirakara and takes these forms based on requirements. Shankaracharya also said that Lalita Tripura Sundari as the Supreme mother and she acts as wife of Sada Shiva & Shakti of Maha Vishnu. Veda Vyasa mentioned that Krishna himself is the supreme God in Bhagavatam & in Bhagavad Gita but also the same Veda Vyasa mentioned again that Devi is the supreme in Devi Bhagavatam! What do you understnd by this? Supreme Entity is none other that Krishna, Supreme Entity is none other than SadaShiva & the Same supreme entity is Mahamaya Sri Lalita Tripura Sundari. There is no difference between them. But you see them as different because of Maya.
@@naveennarayana_ Sir, this is the Philosophy/Siddhānta of Vaiṣṇavism. In Hinduism, there are many Sampradāyas like Śrī Vaiṣṇava Sampradāya; Madhvā Sampradāya; Gaudiya Sampradāya etc..
This video is giving the idea of Vaiṣṇava Philosophy. Many Modern Hindus who gain their knowledge from the TV Serials think that there is Only One Type Of Philosophy in Hinduism. That is to consider Vishnu=Brahma=Shiva=Durga. But this is not so. There are many diverse Interpretations and philosophies in our Hinduism. All have the right to share their view point and philosophy. No one here can behead us jut because we shared our view point.
Many people say that Formless Brahman Assumes the form of other Gods like Shiva or Vishnu by Material Energy. Vaishnavas disagree with this. For us, Vishnu is always beyond Maya or Material Energy.
Similarly, there are Shaiva Sampradāyas like Vīraśaiva in Southern India who have the philosophy that Only Shiva is Supreme but Vishnu is not.
Neither the Vaishnavas nor the Shaivas are Disrespecting Vishnu or Shiva. They are just representing their Acharyas and their respective Philosophies.
For us (i.e., Vaishnavas), Lord Shiva is very respectful. Even his foot dust is precious for us. Our Acharya Śrī Sanatana Goswāmī also has the Darshan of Lord Shiva has instructed to always respect and beg the mercy of Shiva. Because he is very merciful and can give us the Bhakti or devotion for Śrī Śrī Rādhā Kṛṣṇa.
If any idiot like Zakir Naik tries to disrespect either Kṛṣṇa or Shiva or Durga we will vehemently refute/oppose such persons. We have diverse philosophies but we will have to acknowledge and respect each other's philosophy.
We may have disagreements but we should be very well aware of such beautiful diversities.
Shiva is formless as well as Physical. He can live as formless and yet he can take form and perform different activities like destroying the evil.. in order to balance the Universe. Shiva is worshipped in 2 ways, one way is worship of Shivling which symbolises the omnipresent and formless nature of Shiva. The other way of worshipping is the Idol- Physical form of Shiva i.e. with long hair, Goddess Ganga in hair and snake around neck. So in the end, I would say that he is Almighty, so he is not restricted upto formless state, he can obviously take a Physical form as well.
Lord Shiva in Linga form, represents his formless nature. He is in everything, in everyone.
nature is supreme!
God Shiva is supreme, everything is Him and made my Him.
Shiva is Aadi ( from times immemorial ), Ananth ( everywhere ) and Sanatana ( eternal ).
Shiva is the benign aspect, whereas the contrast Rudra is Shiva's ferocious form.
Shiva beheaded his own Son Lord Ganesh, to relieve him from his arrogance, thus shows Shiva treats everyone equally. And He is not partial even towards His family members.
Shiva leads a simple ascetic Yogi, and down to earth life.
Shiva as the father punishes His devotees, but later when his devotees realize their mistakes, Shiva again forgives them.
Shiva is the aatma Rudra, the soul , the energy in every living being.
Shiva is the Aadi Yogi, and has the entire cosmic and yogic energy stored in His third Eye and became Tryambaka ( three eyed God).
Shiva is the father of the entire Universe, He saved the Universe by drinking the Halahal ( poison ), no one except Shiva had the power to survive even after consuming the poison.
Shiva's trident ( the three spikes ) remove the three gunas namely Rajas, Tamas and Sattva.
Shiva's another form is Veerabhadra, the head of Shiva's army.
Shiva ganas are friends and companions to Shiva, and stay with him on Kailash.
Shiva is the moksha provider for all living beings.
Shiva's way of punishing anyone is different and He does this only to take away their arrogance / anger and thus reforms them.
Lord Brahma and Lord Vishnu couldn't find the start (birth ) of Shiva.
God Shiva is often referred as Bholenath, the innocent God. As He is pleased very easily.
He doesn't differentiate among his devotees, so Shiva granted boons to everyone and many asuras too. He is Pashupathi nath, God and saviour of all animals.
Shiva gives us all the amenities and luxuries , and as a sacrificing father stays in the Burial ground ( Rudra Kshetra ).
Shiva is the Jagadaika_poshana, meaning He is the food provider for all of us.
Shiva is the Mahakaal, the God for time.
Shiva smears ash on his body, since the ultimate truth of life is Ash. He doesn't give importance to any materialistic things.
He is the Aadi Yogi, who taught us about meditation. At one instance you see Him as a yogi, and in another instance you see Him as Shankara, the family man.
Shiva taught us about doing our Karma and being detached with the end result, and even with people and relationships.
Shiva teaches us to stand on our word, thus Shiva became an enemy to Daksha by saving moon from Daksha’s curse.
Shiva's nataraj form is the Cosmic dance of Shiva, where in He dissolves everyone and everything into Him.
Shiva was there before anything existed and will be there, even after everything is destroyed.
Remember Hindus Gods are stronger than other gods and religions
Krishna himself used to do Shiva puja daily. The scriptures glorify Shakti Mother, Shiva , Vishnu as supreme in different places. We don't need this abrahamjc lense that Iskcon is hell bent on pushing. This is the most irritating thing.
Where is it mentioned?
@@maanasperumalla7737 in Mahabharata and across scriptures and different prayers. Krishna also advised Arjuna to do penance to please lord Shiva for the gandiva.
@@7justfun Yes, can you tell me the verses and reference in the Mahabharata where it is said please
Read principal Upanishads (only translation ,no bhasya), it will help you to interpret puranas and geetas in correct way.
ISKCON has a very Catholic approach to Sanatna Dharma. Brahman manifests in different forms at different times, it's Kali its Durga, it shiva Vishnu etc. Krishna is just one incarnation of the supreme ultimate reality. Durga for example is the supreme godhead for her worshippers.
You are speak in complete nonsense
Krishna is known as Avatari; The source of all avatars. He is not an incarnation of the supreme ultimate reality.
@UCy-kInGYOW-no8QdnY5HMiA It's okay brother..... When you're in Krishna's love ❤ you see krishna everywhere and Krishna is the biggest for you....... Respect such a soul who loves Krishna.........
Jay Shri Krishna 🦚🙏🦚🙏🦚
Alright, let's see! Who among us mere mortals is intelligent enough to conclude anything according to the very finite perception of the world we have? So let's see what our Vedas say! Has any of us ever noticed that no matter what the Puja is or to whomever the offering is or whoever is the residing deity of that particular Puja, it doesn't matter. The shloka for purification before the Puja prescribed by the Vedas is 100 percent of the time "Om apavitro pavitro va sarvaavastham gatopi va, ya smaret pundarikaksham bahyabhyantarah suchihi. Atinila ghanashyamam nalinayatalochanam smarami pundarikaksham tena snato bhavami aham." Why in this mantra do we ask Ghanashyam to purify us and our offerings for proper Puja and why not the residing deity for the Puja? Because no matter which deity we are offering it to, ultimately it's going to The Supreme Lord who is Prajapati, and the Vedas call him Krishna! If you have only seven days for God realisation and you ask a highly exalted and enlightened saint to make you perfect in those seven days, why would that saint make you hear the Shrimad Bhagwatam rather that any other of the 18 puranas? And even if that saint( Sri Sukadeva Goswami) was wrong, why didn't all those great personalities like Narada, Vyasa dev himself and other Rishis and Munis restrict him? That's because Sri Sukadeva Goswami was speaking the ultimate truth! It's not the vision or love you have that lets you realise God by his tattva but it is your genuine curiosity for realising the absolute truth! And history shows such Curiosity called Brahm-Jigyansa leads you to the Truth which is Sri Krishna! Let us not try to fight in regards with putting lord Shiva or lord Krishna or anyone such on top based only on our love and beliefs. Because no matter who you believe to the be the supreme, ultimately you reach to the absolute truth by one way or the other! Lord Shiva is Adiguru and Param Vaishnav, the Gopeshwar( who is the best of the Gopis) who definitely uplifts every living soul's consciousness to the supreme truth! Hare Krishna!
u don't have any legal rights to talk about ethics since you aren't belong to us...# bhagavan shri krishna paramatma ki jai♥️👏