New link for roughly $25 qr's...the old one has been reported as not working. Please let me know if you get the original to work on your end. www.amazon.com/CHAOYANG-Universal-Aluminum-Steering-Anti-thief/dp/B0C4H1SSDD/ref=mp_s_a_1_49_sspa?crid=2FLRFCHXP2ZDL&keywords=quick+release+steering+wheel&qid=1683697093&sprefix=quick+release%2Caps%2C129&sr=8-49-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyNTdNTFlBMDBIOUs2JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDY5OTg4OE5HSlJVUVUySVJaJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA4MzM0MzAyMTk2ODAwUERWSU8wJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX210ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
Thanks man! This really is a feature that a lot of people could make use of. Props to Cammus for using parts that are pretty standardized. It's quickly becoming the AR-15 of the wheelbase world in my eyes. You back in your hometown yet?
@@DouglasThompson Aye! And AR-15 of wheelbase world??? lol 👍 Back yet? No, no, I'm here for quite a while. Got in contact with "Rebecca' from CAMMUS to see how I could get their rig for my apartment here. (She already replied with a link for their online store). It looks pretty decent; unfortunately there's VERY little choice of this sort of gear in this part of the world....
You know, ive only just discovered your channel, and not seeing you in the vid and just listening to your voice makes me think that you are Chris Pratt
@@DouglasThompson ah okay. The only thing I saw that people didn't like about the Cammus base is that there isn't a lot of detail through the FFB I was just curious if the recent update might have improved that. I saw Cammus is really good about correcting things that reviewers recommended.
My second least favorite thing about the Fanatec eco system, first being how expensive it is to use aftermarket wheels is not being able to add hub extensions or switch out the QR system all together. I had DD2 for about two years and my biggest complaint was the wobbly QR on a 25nm $1500 wheel base. Had they released that QR2 last spring I’d probably still own the DD2. I can’t believe they still haven’t released that new QR but it really just reinforces my belief Fanatec doesn’t care about the Podium line or it’s highest spending customers. None of this new CSL stuff should have been released until the Podium line was squared away.
I was planning on making a video about that QR 2.0... I saw something very funny about it but I don't want to seem like I'm picking on them. Im just glad they are moving on to a hopefully better system. Not sure why they insist on trying to reinvent the QR when much better solutions are already on the market...lol Well actually I do know why, they want that extra income!
@@DouglasThompson Yep, exactly. Also: apparently they have a QR Lite version made from plastic that is available on some wheels (to save a few cents) which disintegrates when subjected to the 'forces' of the CSL DD. 🤔😬🙄
Yeah, that QR2 have been in the works for ages!?.. The problem is that I don't think it will be worth the price swapping out the old to this new QR if you have more than one or a few rims, do to Fanatec's usual pricing.. ':D
This is awesome, I don't have any sim rig stuff at all yet. If you wouldn't mind - in the future could you make some sort of a "if I had to start from scratch in 2022" video? Products you really like / what to really avoid etc?
@@DouglasThompson I have entry level stuff. Now I’m looking to upgrade because I know I like this hobby. I’ve heard pedals are the first addition to an entry level wheel. Then a wheelbase, something DD would be great. Maybe your video could have 2-3 budget levels?
I'm lucky enough to have worked hard and purchased a simucube with a real MOMO wheel and Heusinkveld pedals. Man I love that I don't own any fanatec products. Sooooo many cons.
Fanatec makes a lot of great things but I agree they really do their best to lock you into whatever makes them the most money. Like I said in the video, they are a business and they are free to do what they want and as a consumer, I don't have to buy from them but for console users, they really are the best choice for the money so it's really wrong of Fanatec to make choices that force the customer to only buy Fanatec items. Thrustmaster and Logitech do the same thing. I suppose it's a console mentality.
Yeah I had their CSL Elite Pedals with Loadcell for a year. Brilliant pedals for the money. But you don't have to look far to see all their shady marketing spout, everything is an extra with them, boost kit, tuning kit, etc etc. By the time you are done you just feel scammed into paying for more. And then with the problems of shipping and deliveries and never ending stock issues, I don't know why people just don't spend a bit more and get something worth it. Yes they might be the only choice for console gaming but to be fair is SIM racing on a console apart from grand turismo really worth it. If Cammus had a tenth of fanatecs marketing budget they would blow them out of the water. It's just nice to see all the new companies on the seen like azetek, Cammus, SIMmagic creating real competition. As it's low end with Logitech and super high end with simucube, no wonder fanatec takes the majority of the market. Shame about moza though, they do seem rushed and crap. Great channel Douglas.
Thank you so much! Yes, when I first learned about Moza I reached out to them to see what they were all about, they told me I will be on a list for the future, I assume after all the bigger channels have reviews out on them. They seemed to get out on the wrong foot with quality control issues. I hope they can recover, they seem like a company with cool ideas!
See, this is why I didn't get the CSL DD. Don't even get me started on the boost kit that people are making themselves with ~30 bucks worth of parts. Same reason I dropped thrustmaster too, with their rj cable connections. If I had know about cammus a month ago I would have tried getting their base instead, since with it having buttons on the base itself I could just use some random cheap nardi bootleg rim and not worry about spending money on a simracing wheel. Now I'm curious to see how the mini compares to the cammus.
Well you are in luck I receive the Mini today along with the new Simagic pedals for review. In the comparison video I will include the Cammus into the mix for you. ;)
@@DouglasThompson Looking forward to the comparison. Another comparison that would be a HUGE HIT is the Alpha Mini vs. CSL DD though: I wished my CSL DD order wasn't delayed, as I could have made such a comparison myself; but I ran out of time, and ended up cancelling the order.
I do my best to expose thier anti-consumer choices. I invested so much into Fanatec and they make some great products but once I saw how other companies operated, it really opened my eyes to many of the poor choices they make in their own favor. Not to mention I have always had an eye out for this behavior. Fanatec is just the biggest example of poor customer appreciation I have seen to date. Anyway it's buy one get two free Tickets night to the club. ;)
It's fine you disagree with me on this but I have invested more than enough money with Fanatec to be able to confidently speak about the way they do business. You are correct, every company is out to make money and a name for themselves but the way Fanatec goes about this, rubs me very wrong. I do my best to point these things out so people can make informed decisions. I'm sorry you have taken offense to this, it's not my intention.
Guess what... My dream rig setup is just a simple chinaDD (simagic/cammus etc etc) with chinahydroloadcell pedals and chinashifter and chinahandbrake Thats all i need...
Nice, if you live in the US I'm getting 12 units to ship out in about 10 days. Email me at demureg@gmail.com if you're interested in reserving a unit. :-)
Do the Moza and the Simagic wheels work the same? Even if it loses the circuit connection. I believe the ball pattern in their QRs aren´t NRG like, but they seem to be held on with a 70mm wheel pattern.
Simagic Alpha mini has a 50mm pattern so you would need a conversion kit. Not sure about the Moza. I have no personal experience with it. They never followed through sending me a review unit unfortunately. Think they forgot about me. Lol
I agree. Btw, nobody would be defending this greedy behavior from their car company, for example if they couldn't use an aftermarket part or if their car company charged them extra to use aftermarket parts. They'd be up in arms. Unfortunately, corporate simps gonna simp.
Yes...if every year Subaru changed every connection to kill the aftermarket, it would cause many upset modders. Even if every year they changed the thread pattern of the shift rod so you had to buy a special shift knob from Subaru...that would be infuriating...lol
U will be more than happy bro trust me, u have to take youtubers with a grain of salt they are entertainers and exaggerate a lil. Don't sweat it man u will love it.
Lol I'm not exaggerating at all, I state facts on my channel. Fanatec makes many moves to keep customers in their pockets. I do my best to point these out. This being said, to Azri, you really will be happy with the CSL DD, it's a great wheelbase still.
@@DouglasThompson u only state facts lmaooooo. u state mostly opinions bro, And u doing all this for views so yeah u exaggerate. Furthermore they are all in it for the money acting like other companies are more holy get outta here with that b.s. Just being real and that's facts.
You’ll only regret it if you want to use aftermarket wheels as you’ll have to buy ridiculously expensive Podium Hubs or even more expensive Universal Hubs. Even if you just wanna use a cheap $50 eBay wheel. When I had a DD2 I had to fork out $200 for Podium Hubs just to add a stand-alone steering wheel. No paddles or button plate. Now I have a SC2 Pro with an HRS XeroPlay QR and I only need to spend about $70 for a wheel side spigot to attach a wheel.
I love their conversions. Converted a few wheels to use with the accuforce instead and the work flawlessly. I even swapped the USB cable that came with it to the accuforce cable that plugs directly into the wheel base.
Im not sure your question. Are you asking if you can use this cheaper qr with Fanatec wheelbase or are you asking if you can use a Fanatec wheel with Cammus wheelbases?
I don't think there is a conversion that will make the buttons work from the wheelbase directly. I think you can do a QR and USB conversion so you could connect it and go straight to USB port on your PC.
This video is not to make Fanatec users feel any certain type of way, I am making these videos to communicate the importance of going with already accepted standards and not creating your own just to force people deeper into the ecosystem you create. Thrustmaster does the same thing. I don't mention them as much because I don't think they make as quality of products as Fanatec and also I have much less experience with Thrustmaster; only having owned 2 of their products. I have owned 3 Fanatec wheelbases, the CSL Elite, DD1 (PS version) and the CSL DD. I sold my DD1 because of it's weight and I play mostly rally so I never used anywhere near 20nm so it was somewhat of a waste for me to own it. I sold that and the CSL elite before that. I still plan on keeping my CSL DD for now but I have been unhappy with many Fanatec choices for years now and this is just one more thing they do to limit the customer. They have plenty of choices honestly and they are mostly very high quality but you can't bargain with them, the prices are set and if they are out of your budget than you only have 2 options, save up the money or don't get it. This Cammus wheelbase is attractive cause you can literally get a wheel and base for around 6-700 dollars and be better off than many of the other offerings by other companies. For instance I could have a round rally/drift wheel with nothing else but a quick release attached, a go kart wheel with just the quick release and a gt3 or F1 kind of wheel with the button box and all the encoders and such. Even if you don't have a button box you could use the buttons on the wheelbase if you had no other option. It really is a thoughtful solution to the sim racing world. I feel bad for talking bad about the company you have invested much into but just know I have invested a lot into Fanatec as well so we are both in the same boat! ;) And all these topics aside, Fanatec does make a lot of great gear and you have probably their best two items, the V3's and the DD1/DD2. :) I think the V3's are one of the best on the market and it's one of the only things Fanatec didn't lock into their ecosystem by allowing any standard USB cable to be used as a standalone pedal set.
@@DouglasThompson I take no offense to what you're saying bro , I pretty much agree with you. When I bought my Thrustmaster T150 from Best Buy for $200 I thought that was outrageous , two years ago if somebody would've suggested that I buy the DD1 and it's only $1200 I would've told them that they're out their f**king mind , I think sim racing hardware altogether is overpriced but I'm a plug-n-play type of person and ecosystems give you the plug-n-play convenience and I understand you'll pay more for that convenience especially with sim racing 🏎️
Understood! That is something that I agree Fanatec does best over every other company. For you, I will make a list of my favorite things about Fanatec, perhaps I will even make a video about it since I mostly point out negative aspects of Fanatec on my videos. Lol *Plug and play *Quality packaging *High resale value *Very attractive gear *Huge ecosystem *Pushing Simracing into the mainstream *Mostly great products *Best possible quality for console racing *Buttons/switches/knobs/sticks are mostly great quality *Materials used are mostly excellent *Tuning software is the best I've seen *Game support is among the best if not the best *Tuning menu access from the wheel is very handy for many users *Rumble motors in some of the steering wheels and the V3 pedals is very welcome *The price for entry with the CSL DD base and CSL pedals is great I think I will make this into a video so people can see that I don't hate Fanatec as a whole, just some of the key decisions they make.
The kind that connect via USB, you can use as long as you find or buy a compatible qr. You could also just use the Cammus qr and button box and buy an aftermarket F1 style wheel rim. That way you could use the paddle shifters and buttons etc.
I do in my real car. ;) I'm not sure I mentioned it in this video but I need multiple QR's for my "BrokeA$$ $imRa¢ing" video series and it would be VERY expensive if I stayed with the original QR and had to buy extra NRG branded QR's to supplement that video series.
@@DouglasThompson i now got my 2 qr from ebay. In hands zero play, but with wheel mounted and on base I can lift the qr on the right side. By both QR same issue. Like the balls dont grab enough right. Have yours zero play ?
I was planning on getting the csl dd 5nm, but as it's not in stock, and the 8nm boost kit is a €150 180w 24v power adapter, it starts to look like cammus would be a lot better deal.. Especially as I can use whichever cheap steering wheel I'd like too. Waiting on the shipping quote, and that'll probably suck though
I'll see how much the different shipping options are. By boat usually takes 2-3 months though, depends on how fast I can get everything for my rig setup. If I go with cammus, I'm not sure if I should still go for the csl pedals lc setup or not. They are probably the best/cheapest decent option for pedals with load cell brake. Definitely getting a shh shifter, as that looks to be a really good budget option. Only thing missing then would be a decent budget handbrake setup
@@kharmastreams8319Cammus sells the wheel with paddle shifters, button box, qr, the wheel base, load cell pedals, a sequential shifter (hall effect sensor) handbrake (load cell I believe) and the entire rig to attach everything to for under 2k... ;) If I was new into SimRacing I'd be all over that shit! Lol
I'm a dummy. I only ordered one quick release. That would be fine but I have two different wheels. Back to Amazon to order another one! Question: How much does the style Cammus runs cost? Nothing is sub $100?
So 10 ball bearing is NRG style, correct? Looks like that is $95 minimum. I couldn't find any knock offs. FYI: Your link is the 8 ball bearing style (3 + 5 grouping).
Hey douglas i did the same thing and changed my cammus nrg typ qr to a normal one. Can you tell me is this normal that there is little bit play in the wheel? Have the original wheel from cammus and the fanatec mclaren wheel both the same qr type but difrent brands and they have the same play in it. Thank you in advance ✌️
Buy the Cammus wheelbase with a Cammus button box and wheel. Take the wheel rim off the button box and slap on a gt/formula style rim and you got yourself a nice setup for F1/gt with paddle shifters encoders, buttons, switches etc. And then pick up an NRG 10 ball qr and attach the round rim that comes with the button box to that quick release since you don't need shifters/buttons on a drift setup.
@@simongrankvist8892 that one is a 3d render. The one you would get with the wheel and base combo will be like mine, leather with a red or yellow stripe at the top
@@rynosraceroom66 I will be selling some pretty big items in the near future. I'm not sure how I will announce it just yet but stay tuned. I will be selling some wheelbases and possibly pedals and such.
Hey mate, gonna grab the cammus after your reviews. Do you know anything about their pedals? Considering getting them as well but can't find any info on them
The V2's are not yet released, they aren't making any more V1's as far as I know. Make sure when you contact Rebecca to mention my name for a good amount of money off! ;)
New link for roughly $25 qr's...the old one has been reported as not working. Please let me know if you get the original to work on your end.
www.amazon.com/CHAOYANG-Universal-Aluminum-Steering-Anti-thief/dp/B0C4H1SSDD/ref=mp_s_a_1_49_sspa?crid=2FLRFCHXP2ZDL&keywords=quick+release+steering+wheel&qid=1683697093&sprefix=quick+release%2Caps%2C129&sr=8-49-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyNTdNTFlBMDBIOUs2JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDY5OTg4OE5HSlJVUVUySVJaJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA4MzM0MzAyMTk2ODAwUERWSU8wJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX210ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
hey can y update the link pls?
link doesn’t work anymore
$25 aftermarket QR, and still 1000x better than the Fanatec wobbly QR that needs a screw to hold it in place! Nice mod!
Thanks man! This really is a feature that a lot of people could make use of. Props to Cammus for using parts that are pretty standardized. It's quickly becoming the AR-15 of the wheelbase world in my eyes. You back in your hometown yet?
@@DouglasThompson Aye! And AR-15 of wheelbase world??? lol 👍
Back yet? No, no, I'm here for quite a while. Got in contact with "Rebecca' from CAMMUS to see how I could get their rig for my apartment here. (She already replied with a link for their online store). It looks pretty decent; unfortunately there's VERY little choice of this sort of gear in this part of the world....
And the fact that fanatec's quick release is 100€ when you can get a high quality aftermarket quick release for that price
That’s another beauty of cammus - no locked in after market wheel choices and much cheaper !
Yes indeedy!
You know, ive only just discovered your channel, and not seeing you in the vid and just listening to your voice makes me think that you are Chris Pratt
Lol, you don't know how many times I've heard this. I am going to have to do some voiceovers and see if anyone notices. ;)
Huge! doing this when Cammus stuff arrives. My wife is gonna be upset when she sees how many wheels I'm about to order.
Lol
@@DouglasThompson btw have you updated to the 1.5.15 firmware for your Cammus base? Curious to know if there are any big changes.
I don't ever even open the cammus app...just set and forget. Lol I'm not sure what firmware I'm on actually
@@DouglasThompson ah okay. The only thing I saw that people didn't like about the Cammus base is that there isn't a lot of detail through the FFB I was just curious if the recent update might have improved that. I saw Cammus is really good about correcting things that reviewers recommended.
@RicheyB it definitely has less detail but still ha plenty. Especially in games like assetto corsa.
My second least favorite thing about the Fanatec eco system, first being how expensive it is to use aftermarket wheels is not being able to add hub extensions or switch out the QR system all together.
I had DD2 for about two years and my biggest complaint was the wobbly QR on a 25nm $1500 wheel base. Had they released that QR2 last spring I’d probably still own the DD2.
I can’t believe they still haven’t released that new QR but it really just reinforces my belief Fanatec doesn’t care about the Podium line or it’s highest spending customers. None of this new CSL stuff should have been released until the Podium line was squared away.
I was planning on making a video about that QR 2.0... I saw something very funny about it but I don't want to seem like I'm picking on them. Im just glad they are moving on to a hopefully better system. Not sure why they insist on trying to reinvent the QR when much better solutions are already on the market...lol
Well actually I do know why, they want that extra income!
@@DouglasThompson Yep, exactly. Also: apparently they have a QR Lite version made from plastic that is available on some wheels (to save a few cents) which disintegrates when subjected to the 'forces' of the CSL DD. 🤔😬🙄
Lol
Yeah, that QR2 have been in the works for ages!?..
The problem is that I don't think it will be worth the price swapping out the old to this new QR if you have more than one or a few rims, do to Fanatec's usual pricing.. ':D
Correct, not to say the QR1 doesn't work, it does but it leaves a lot of the table.
This is awesome, I don't have any sim rig stuff at all yet. If you wouldn't mind - in the future could you make some sort of a "if I had to start from scratch in 2022" video? Products you really like / what to really avoid etc?
Not a bad idea. Like best starter kits for different types of users. I will consider that one.
@@DouglasThompson I have entry level stuff. Now I’m looking to upgrade because I know I like this hobby. I’ve heard pedals are the first addition to an entry level wheel. Then a wheelbase, something DD would be great. Maybe your video could have 2-3 budget levels?
Pedals are important for times but the wheel is most important for immersion. What are you most concerned with?
Very nice! Bravo you and bravo Cammus!
Thank you! Just spreading the word! I want people to be aware of these great features! :)
I’m sold!!! I cannot wait to order a cammus from you!!
Lol just saw this.
I'm lucky enough to have worked hard and purchased a simucube with a real MOMO wheel and Heusinkveld pedals. Man I love that I don't own any fanatec products. Sooooo many cons.
Fanatec makes a lot of great things but I agree they really do their best to lock you into whatever makes them the most money. Like I said in the video, they are a business and they are free to do what they want and as a consumer, I don't have to buy from them but for console users, they really are the best choice for the money so it's really wrong of Fanatec to make choices that force the customer to only buy Fanatec items. Thrustmaster and Logitech do the same thing. I suppose it's a console mentality.
Yeah I had their CSL Elite Pedals with Loadcell for a year. Brilliant pedals for the money.
But you don't have to look far to see all their shady marketing spout, everything is an extra with them, boost kit, tuning kit, etc etc. By the time you are done you just feel scammed into paying for more.
And then with the problems of shipping and deliveries and never ending stock issues, I don't know why people just don't spend a bit more and get something worth it.
Yes they might be the only choice for console gaming but to be fair is SIM racing on a console apart from grand turismo really worth it.
If Cammus had a tenth of fanatecs marketing budget they would blow them out of the water.
It's just nice to see all the new companies on the seen like azetek, Cammus, SIMmagic creating real competition. As it's low end with Logitech and super high end with simucube, no wonder fanatec takes the majority of the market.
Shame about moza though, they do seem rushed and crap.
Great channel Douglas.
Thank you so much! Yes, when I first learned about Moza I reached out to them to see what they were all about, they told me I will be on a list for the future, I assume after all the bigger channels have reviews out on them. They seemed to get out on the wrong foot with quality control issues. I hope they can recover, they seem like a company with cool ideas!
F fanatec all my homies hate fanatec
I don't hate them just many of the choices they make. Perhaps they will turn around and make some changes once they get more established.
very nice mod brooo, the cammus DD looks very interesting !!!
Ya man, super stoked about it still! I'm talking to Cammus about some software stuff I would like them to implement if possible.
@@DouglasThompson bro do you have a fast way to contact to u or chatting sometimes?
How fast are you needing? Lol
@@DouglasThompson chatting occasionally haha
Lol you can email me demureg@gmail.com
See, this is why I didn't get the CSL DD. Don't even get me started on the boost kit that people are making themselves with ~30 bucks worth of parts. Same reason I dropped thrustmaster too, with their rj cable connections. If I had know about cammus a month ago I would have tried getting their base instead, since with it having buttons on the base itself I could just use some random cheap nardi bootleg rim and not worry about spending money on a simracing wheel. Now I'm curious to see how the mini compares to the cammus.
Well you are in luck I receive the Mini today along with the new Simagic pedals for review. In the comparison video I will include the Cammus into the mix for you. ;)
@@DouglasThompson Looking forward to the comparison. Another comparison that would be a HUGE HIT is the Alpha Mini vs. CSL DD though: I wished my CSL DD order wasn't delayed, as I could have made such a comparison myself; but I ran out of time, and ended up cancelling the order.
That is planned as well. ;)
@@DouglasThompson Y.E.S.!!! 👍👍👍
I bought one of those qr be careful mine had alot of play
I bought 4 of them, hope I get lucky! ;)
@@DouglasThompson lol 😆
want to try this wheel base and compare it with my diy DD 😁
That would be really cool to see!
This channel has turned into a Fanatec hate club lmaoooo
I do my best to expose thier anti-consumer choices. I invested so much into Fanatec and they make some great products but once I saw how other companies operated, it really opened my eyes to many of the poor choices they make in their own favor.
Not to mention I have always had an eye out for this behavior.
Fanatec is just the biggest example of poor customer appreciation I have seen to date.
Anyway it's buy one get two free Tickets night to the club. ;)
It's fine you disagree with me on this but I have invested more than enough money with Fanatec to be able to confidently speak about the way they do business.
You are correct, every company is out to make money and a name for themselves but the way Fanatec goes about this, rubs me very wrong. I do my best to point these things out so people can make informed decisions. I'm sorry you have taken offense to this, it's not my intention.
Guess what...
My dream rig setup is just a simple chinaDD (simagic/cammus etc etc) with chinahydroloadcell pedals and chinashifter and chinahandbrake
Thats all i need...
I think that is an dream you will be able to achieve! :)
@@DouglasThompson yeah.. looking foward for getting those in couple of years...
Short term goal
So I don’t think Amazon carries this quick release anymore. Major bummer.
Damn...ebay still has some I know
nice. looks solid 👍
Thanks man!
This video just made up my mind when my brokea$$ can get my gear cammus is the way to go. Thank you👍👍👍👍👍
Nice, if you live in the US I'm getting 12 units to ship out in about 10 days. Email me at demureg@gmail.com if you're interested in reserving a unit. :-)
Very interesting vids thx!
Thank you for watching! :)
Do the Moza and the Simagic wheels work the same? Even if it loses the circuit connection.
I believe the ball pattern in their QRs aren´t NRG like, but they seem to be held on with a 70mm wheel pattern.
Simagic Alpha mini has a 50mm pattern so you would need a conversion kit. Not sure about the Moza. I have no personal experience with it. They never followed through sending me a review unit unfortunately. Think they forgot about me. Lol
I agree. Btw, nobody would be defending this greedy behavior from their car company, for example if they couldn't use an aftermarket part or if their car company charged them extra to use aftermarket parts. They'd be up in arms. Unfortunately, corporate simps gonna simp.
Yes...if every year Subaru changed every connection to kill the aftermarket, it would cause many upset modders. Even if every year they changed the thread pattern of the shift rod so you had to buy a special shift knob from Subaru...that would be infuriating...lol
Now im really regretting my decision going for csl dd...
U will be more than happy bro trust me, u have to take youtubers with a grain of salt they are entertainers and exaggerate a lil. Don't sweat it man u will love it.
Lol I'm not exaggerating at all, I state facts on my channel. Fanatec makes many moves to keep customers in their pockets. I do my best to point these out.
This being said, to Azri, you really will be happy with the CSL DD, it's a great wheelbase still.
@@DouglasThompson u only state facts lmaooooo. u state mostly opinions bro, And u doing all this for views so yeah u exaggerate. Furthermore they are all in it for the money acting like other companies are more holy get outta here with that b.s. Just being real and that's facts.
You’ll only regret it if you want to use aftermarket wheels as you’ll have to buy ridiculously expensive Podium Hubs or even more expensive Universal Hubs. Even if you just wanna use a cheap $50 eBay wheel.
When I had a DD2 I had to fork out $200 for Podium Hubs just to add a stand-alone steering wheel. No paddles or button plate. Now I have a SC2 Pro with an HRS XeroPlay QR and I only need to spend about $70 for a wheel side spigot to attach a wheel.
Yes indeed, you are correct.
Hi , could you update on the QR link pls , clueless to where to look for one
I can't find these cheap ones anymore....wonder if nrg filed a lawsuit...
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Yes! Glad more people know about them, they do great work!
I love their conversions. Converted a few wheels to use with the accuforce instead and the work flawlessly. I even swapped the USB cable that came with it to the accuforce cable that plugs directly into the wheel base.
It's sad companies like srm need to exist. These big companies deciding to lock their ecosystems are not in a customers favor.
So I cant use my fanatec wheel with this I wont have force feedback?
Im not sure your question. Are you asking if you can use this cheaper qr with Fanatec wheelbase or are you asking if you can use a Fanatec wheel with Cammus wheelbases?
Just bought this. Any way to make it compatible with Fanatec wheels?
I don't think there is a conversion that will make the buttons work from the wheelbase directly. I think you can do a QR and USB conversion so you could connect it and go straight to USB port on your PC.
Does this work with just the rim completely by it self or do i have to have the base ellectronic hub?
Yes you can mount any standard 70mm wheel/hub by itself
I sell these so if you want one let me know
@@DouglasThompson ok thx i have been thing if upgrading from my t300 soon but probly in a few years so thx again for the info
when are you getting the alpha amini
Today.
And the Simagic pedals. They decided to send those to me because I had to wait so long due to the flooding as you may know.
@@DouglasThompson great!!!
Good video bro 💪💪💪
Thanks man! Spreading the word, standing behind Cammus because they are making great choices for the end users benefit!
@@DouglasThompson agreed
This video is not to make Fanatec users feel any certain type of way, I am making these videos to communicate the importance of going with already accepted standards and not creating your own just to force people deeper into the ecosystem you create. Thrustmaster does the same thing. I don't mention them as much because I don't think they make as quality of products as Fanatec and also I have much less experience with Thrustmaster; only having owned 2 of their products.
I have owned 3 Fanatec wheelbases, the CSL Elite, DD1 (PS version) and the CSL DD. I sold my DD1 because of it's weight and I play mostly rally so I never used anywhere near 20nm so it was somewhat of a waste for me to own it. I sold that and the CSL elite before that. I still plan on keeping my CSL DD for now but I have been unhappy with many Fanatec choices for years now and this is just one more thing they do to limit the customer. They have plenty of choices honestly and they are mostly very high quality but you can't bargain with them, the prices are set and if they are out of your budget than you only have 2 options, save up the money or don't get it.
This Cammus wheelbase is attractive cause you can literally get a wheel and base for around 6-700 dollars and be better off than many of the other offerings by other companies.
For instance I could have a round rally/drift wheel with nothing else but a quick release attached, a go kart wheel with just the quick release and a gt3 or F1 kind of wheel with the button box and all the encoders and such.
Even if you don't have a button box you could use the buttons on the wheelbase if you had no other option. It really is a thoughtful solution to the sim racing world.
I feel bad for talking bad about the company you have invested much into but just know I have invested a lot into Fanatec as well so we are both in the same boat! ;)
And all these topics aside, Fanatec does make a lot of great gear and you have probably their best two items, the V3's and the DD1/DD2. :)
I think the V3's are one of the best on the market and it's one of the only things Fanatec didn't lock into their ecosystem by allowing any standard USB cable to be used as a standalone pedal set.
@@DouglasThompson I take no offense to what you're saying bro , I pretty much agree with you. When I bought my Thrustmaster T150 from Best Buy for $200 I thought that was outrageous , two years ago if somebody would've suggested that I buy the DD1 and it's only $1200 I would've told them that they're out their f**king mind , I think sim racing hardware altogether is overpriced but I'm a plug-n-play type of person and ecosystems give you the plug-n-play convenience and I understand you'll pay more for that convenience especially with sim racing 🏎️
Understood! That is something that I agree Fanatec does best over every other company. For you, I will make a list of my favorite things about Fanatec, perhaps I will even make a video about it since I mostly point out negative aspects of Fanatec on my videos. Lol
*Plug and play
*Quality packaging
*High resale value
*Very attractive gear
*Huge ecosystem
*Pushing Simracing into the mainstream
*Mostly great products
*Best possible quality for console racing
*Buttons/switches/knobs/sticks are mostly great quality
*Materials used are mostly excellent
*Tuning software is the best I've seen
*Game support is among the best if not the best
*Tuning menu access from the wheel is very handy for many users
*Rumble motors in some of the steering wheels and the V3 pedals is very welcome
*The price for entry with the CSL DD base and CSL pedals is great
I think I will make this into a video so people can see that I don't hate Fanatec as a whole, just some of the key decisions they make.
So it looks like you still need their original wheel to do this conversion
No you don't :)
Any aftermarket f1 wheels that will work?
The kind that connect via USB, you can use as long as you find or buy a compatible qr. You could also just use the Cammus qr and button box and buy an aftermarket F1 style wheel rim. That way you could use the paddle shifters and buttons etc.
Does this work on simagic m10 too?
Not sure, if it has a 70mm pattern, yes.
why dont You use the original QR and mount your NRG wheel onto it ?
I do in my real car. ;)
I'm not sure I mentioned it in this video but I need multiple QR's for my "BrokeA$$ $imRa¢ing" video series and it would be VERY expensive if I stayed with the original QR and had to buy extra NRG branded QR's to supplement that video series.
@@DouglasThompson i now got my 2 qr from ebay. In hands zero play, but with wheel mounted and on base I can lift the qr on the right side. By both QR same issue. Like the balls dont grab enough right. Have yours zero play ?
@@der60er I have like 6 of them, some do and some don't. Luckily I'm used to a bit of play since my real cars have it too. Lol
I was planning on getting the csl dd 5nm, but as it's not in stock, and the 8nm boost kit is a €150 180w 24v power adapter, it starts to look like cammus would be a lot better deal..
Especially as I can use whichever cheap steering wheel I'd like too.
Waiting on the shipping quote, and that'll probably suck though
If you want to get a Cammus use my name as the promo code. You will get a good chunk of
Also you can perhaps choose the by sea option or wait a bit for some better shipping options.
I'll see how much the different shipping options are.
By boat usually takes 2-3 months though, depends on how fast I can get everything for my rig setup.
If I go with cammus, I'm not sure if I should still go for the csl pedals lc setup or not.
They are probably the best/cheapest decent option for pedals with load cell brake.
Definitely getting a shh shifter, as that looks to be a really good budget option.
Only thing missing then would be a decent budget handbrake setup
@@kharmastreams8319Cammus sells the wheel with paddle shifters, button box, qr, the wheel base, load cell pedals, a sequential shifter (hall effect sensor) handbrake (load cell I believe) and the entire rig to attach everything to for under 2k... ;) If I was new into SimRacing I'd be all over that shit! Lol
@@kharmastreams8319 shop.windbooster.com/product/cammus-steering-wheel-chair-bracket-driving-pedals-set-car-monitor-stand-gaming-racing-simulator/
I'm a dummy. I only ordered one quick release. That would be fine but I have two different wheels. Back to Amazon to order another one! Question: How much does the style Cammus runs cost? Nothing is sub $100?
So 10 ball bearing is NRG style, correct? Looks like that is $95 minimum. I couldn't find any knock offs. FYI: Your link is the 8 ball bearing style (3 + 5 grouping).
Wait was I saying something other than 8? Lol
I haven't found any NRG compatible knock offs yet... :(
Not a lot of work, for a lot of reward, very cool.
Yes this is true! Both financially and physically.
Really cool and cheap QR!! Me like!! :D
Same here. I bought 3 more, I will let you know if they are all similar feeling in terms of tolerances.
can you attach fanatac F 1 wheel to cammus?
I believe so, I have seen people attach the McLaren wheel
@@DouglasThompson cammus doesent have f 1 wheel heh?
@@earthexplorer579 they are working on one as we speak
Hey douglas i did the same thing and changed my cammus nrg typ qr to a normal one. Can you tell me is this normal that there is little bit play in the wheel? Have the original wheel from cammus and the fanatec mclaren wheel both the same qr type but difrent brands and they have the same play in it. Thank you in advance ✌️
In the qr?
@@DouglasThompson yes in the qr where its flanged to the wheelbase i can sent you a video where i wiggel it.
@@danielpajkic9798 yes demureg@gmail.com
Should I buy this if I do drifting and sometimes f1. Because I can't play f1 with a 350mm drift wheel with no paddels. What can I do?
Buy the Cammus wheelbase with a Cammus button box and wheel. Take the wheel rim off the button box and slap on a gt/formula style rim and you got yourself a nice setup for F1/gt with paddle shifters encoders, buttons, switches etc. And then pick up an NRG 10 ball qr and attach the round rim that comes with the button box to that quick release since you don't need shifters/buttons on a drift setup.
If you do end up deciding to buy anything Cammus, please let me know and use my name to get money off the order.
@@DouglasThompson how do you include the rim you have? In the picture it shows a plasticy rim...
@@simongrankvist8892 that one is a 3d render. The one you would get with the wheel and base combo will be like mine, leather with a red or yellow stripe at the top
@@DouglasThompson ooh ok
Do you think this method works with Moza r9??
If it's 70mm it will work
How's it holding till now? I'm very confused between this and the alpha mini
Are you talking about the cammus? It feels great! Easily my clear choice.
You ever sell any used hardware ?
I will be soon actually, what are you looking for?
Anything better than a G29 DFGT(which I love) Just curious what used good hardware is going for Thx
@@rynosraceroom66 I will be selling some pretty big items in the near future. I'm not sure how I will announce it just yet but stay tuned. I will be selling some wheelbases and possibly pedals and such.
Hey mate, gonna grab the cammus after your reviews. Do you know anything about their pedals? Considering getting them as well but can't find any info on them
The V2's are not yet released, they aren't making any more V1's as far as I know. Make sure when you contact Rebecca to mention my name for a good amount of money off! ;)
@@DouglasThompson yeah I did and they gave me 5% off, not bad
@@scottySK was it around like 50-60 dollars correct?
@@DouglasThompson no, the wheel + base I was quoted $698 before shipping, and they applied 5% off for mentioning your UA-cam review (about $35)
Let me ask them about this, I was under the impression people were supposed to get around 50 dollars off using my code.