Rhodes Phaser Duel: Phase 90 vs. Small Stone
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- A side-by-side comparison of the two most popular phaser effects for the Rhodes electric piano: the MXR Phase 90 and the Electro-Harmonix Small Stone.
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There's something about the sound of a rhodes with phaser that sends me to another universe. It's just got that 'my' sound thing.
Same exact thing for me, man!
A warm phaser hooked up to a Fender Rhodes is a sound that I absolutely love.
I don't know why, but it really speaks to me.
You already said everything. #Word ♥ ► "sends me to another universe..."
The phaser is the best by far.
Definitely check out Lonnie Liston Smith if you don't know about him
Yeah ! My kinda sound too…..along with the phaser on the electric violin…
Dude your playing is phenomonal, i haven't enjoyed a demo video as much as this one
Thank you very much!
I agree - great playing, and very soothing to listen to.
Bro-- would you be interested in a collaborative project? Amazing stuff thank you!
Me too. What a concept - playing and listening at the same time! Very nice video, nice sounds.
Yeah, every so often he said stuff but I didn’t really process that part. Loved the playing.
I hear a lot of nice tones that remind me of 70's era jazz fusion - lovely sounds thanks.
Never stop playing. Was blown away right when you started playing. I hope to be at your level of playing some day, that jazzy feel
Oh man, that is some sweet funk at 11:33.
You started this video talking about Donald Fagen and had me hooked right away. Your playing is beautiful. Thanks for a great comparison review on these phasers!
Thank you so much!
Most of the comparison videos of MXR and small stone are electric guitars. I'm glad you did it with rhodes. I played stage piano II in the 80's, but at that time I didn't know that Richard Tee was using a small stone because there wasn't much information about overseas effectors.
I grew up listening to Richard Tee's work on everything that he did, & I definitely can say right now that while the sound from a standard Rhodes or other electric piano is certainly beautiful, yet relatively nothing to get excited about, the Small Stone gives it a sound that is so hauntingly gorgeous, it is enough to make a grown man cry!!!!
I've watched this a few times. Sounds incredible!
Thought I was about to cry at 8:38 from how beautiful Just The Two of Us sounds..
The Phase 90 was a compromise design. MXR provided only a Speed control, and went with a feedback amount, initial sweep point, and sweep width, that would work acceptably for all speeds provided. The width of the sweep can be expanded (to sweep a little higher) by reducing the value of the 3M9 resistor (there's only one in there) to 3M3 or even 3M, and conversely reduced (narrower sweep) by making that resistance value a little higher (e.g., 4M3). The feedback level is set by a 22k resistor (or 24k, depending on issue), with higher values providing less feedback/emphasis, and slightly lower ones (e.g., 15-18k) sounding more like a swept filter. Finally, the little trimmer inside sets the bias of the FETs, so that all Phase 90s start their sweep from the same point in the spectrum. It can be tweaked to go from gurgly to swirly, but remember it is not meant for regular tweaking.
The earliest Small Stones had a nifty design feature that pulled back a little on sweep width as the speed went over about 2hz. The Color switch did a few things. Each position adjusted the amount of feedback, the speed range, and the shape of the sweep. One position was optimized for faster sweeps (triangular and somewhat faster modulation, and less feedback) and the other was optimized for slow dramatic sweeps, with more feedback and a "hypertriangular" sweep that would decelerate as it went lower (drawing attention to the movement of the notches in the lower range) and then speed up as it moved into the higher point of the sweep.
Enjoying this timeless video in 2021 !
I just discovered your channel and was blown away by your unique style. If this were the 70s you would be a producers secret weapon and they would lock you in the studio and throw away the key! lol but seriously your rendition of the two of us was awe-inspiring and motivated me to pull my old Rhodes out of storage and get back into it. I bought a used mxr 90 about 25 years ago when I was the John Paul Jones in a Zep tribute band for the No Quarter sound and it seemed to get me close to his live tone, but on the studio track he had a Horner electra-piano which had a tighter, almost wurlitzier tone...kinda in between the two but weighed a ton and was tough to transport so the Rhodes was always used live. Anyways, not sure if that was of interest to you but would love to hear you try to get the tones from pink Floyd Dark side of the moon...seems like the ran the wurly through something because it had a very sharp attack and was over driven like crazy but sounded killer! I think the track "money" best illustrates this and really compliments the guitar work and I think makes the rhythm section bark like it does and nobody ever discusses it or points that out that I have seen...? How do you think they were able to get that tone I never could figure that out...
Everything you do sounds amazing
Loving the Steely Dan riffs!
Richard Tee is one of the best keyboardists of all time, & he is somebody I always think of when I hear a Paul Simon record.
Ivan May I couldn’t agree more!
Seriously though, keep making informative videos on all the music technologies you own. They're wonderful
That is what i like about Rhodes. I have had synthesizers over the past 25 years and always had 3 different rhodes sounds. The Roland U-220 had the best sound. Thanks for sharing, subscribed.
I really love your Rhodes sounds and playing. I'm also a big fan of Donald Fagen and Steely Dan. So I do also like the Phase 90 sound. But both phasers sound cool to me. The character is a bit different and the Small Stone is indeed the more versatile one for sure.
This video was exactly the comparison that I was looking for, on exactly the instrument. Thank you so much for taking the time! Just ordered a small stone.
I could listen to this all day. Man. So smooth.
Rhodes + Phase 90 = instant Steely Dan! :-) Love your Rhodes BTW. The voicing is just great, awesome sound. Awesome demo!
Christian Schonberger Thank you Christian!
Dude!!! I just stumbled upon this video after looking at phaser reviews. I very distinctly remember you having a video about a DIY talkbox you made with Dilated Peoples stickers. I think I saw it when I was 18 and it inspired me to make my own talbox back then. I'm 34 now. Time flies!
thank you for taking the journey with me!
Wow, I love your playing! I just ordered a mid-2000s Small Stone for guitar use - so looking forward to it.
+Pico Ferret Thanks very much! You're gonna like that Small Stone!
You're right, I adore it! The most inspiring pedal I've bought in years. Kinda turned me onto psych-rock haha.
That was right on, man. Wow! That was so cool to watch and listen to you digging those sounds. Thanks so much.
sound so good man, glad to seeyou make a new video
Beautiful work! I learned more than I ever expected to know about phasers! Thank you!
Lovely demo of the 2 phasers and beautiful playing too...!
Jesus. The sound of summer right there. So fucking beautiful I could cry!!!!!!!
Love that 70's Vannelli sound
God to see young guys like you really knowing your stuff.
I too love the jazzy, Donald Fagen phased Rhodes sound. It's just a too perfect tone that is agonizingly absent these days :/.
+InflatablePlane Agreed... the Fagan/Rhodes/Phase 90 sounds are unbeatable. Never mind the fact that he's a genius composer.
Lol
lonnie liston smith is also who comes to mind when you think about the sound but he used it for a more psychidellic slow sound
Sounds great Moot. Love to see your videos back, You got impeccable taste.
I found your music through a wurly/rhodes playlist on spotify. I really dig your stuff, and really inspired me to get my own Wurlitzer. I had no idea you made videos until I started look up effects for it!
2020 here: He has 4 albums on Tidal. I just downloaded his oldest 2014
Hey just what I was looking for :) and now I'm subscribed
Well hey Flux! Fancy meeting you here. Thanks for stopping by!
I like them both for different uses. Good job. 👍👏
One of the best demo videos I've seen. Great feel.
I love the sound of the Rhodes, and both pedals sound great for different sounds. Thanks for taking the time to mic it up and get the sound perfect!! You’ve got a nice tone and a great touch!!
Great, knowledgeable informed review. Many thanks - mine will be a small stone after all then ;)
Small stone all the way.
Good to see you back man.
I could just listen to your steely dan covers all day! Bravo!
Damn !! The feedback sings while it sweeps through those bands!
Sauce_Aux yeah!! it sounds even more awesome on something that sustains, like a synth pad!
God that Rhodes sounds beautiful. And are u kidding about that distortion!? Sounds great!
Juuuuust the two of us...lovely, i like the tone in that song, never noticed it was a phase pedal.
Brilliant demos! You are a fantastic player and really show the merits of each phaser. Cheers!
ClarkyUK1 Cheers Clarky! Thank you!
That is a lovely sounding Rhodes!
With or without effects.
First time i enjoyed that much a demo video. I feel that Sound is my instrument for ever.
Awesome Moot! Loved all your videos, hope you keep putting stuff out there!
In an interview Donald Fagen claims to have used not one but TWO Phase 90s to produce his sound. This should be taken into account.
Good point! I'd like to know more about that. Did he run them in series or parallel? So many questions...
I don't think that's accurate. I've seen Steely Dan many times, and every time I've seen them, he's only had one pedal. In fact this year, I don't even think he's using an MXR Phase 90. It's some black pedal, but I don't know the name of the brand.
In fact now that I listen, it very well might be a Small Stone. Sounds like it at least, but it has a blue LED light that shines from the box.
And in fact, I found the interview where he says that, so your claim is accurate. Yet, on tour I still know he only goes one pedal. Maybe he was referring to two pedals in the studio.
@@saucedevourer8858 any more facts for us here?
Excellent video, thank you for sharing, such a pleasure to watch and hear your beautiful playing. I also have an eighties Rhodes 73, Roland JC-120 and the Phase 90 and the Small Stone. I have always had great difficulty in not having distortion with my Rhodes and the phase shifters. Have you learned any secrets regarding this problem since this video was made, like how does D. Fagen and all the rest get a distortion free sound? Thanks again.
Really nice comparison. They really sound quite different and I guess both have their place.
Your playing is awesome, dude! It really helps to judge these phasers too.
I had a big Mutron Bi-Phase a long time ago, and selling the thing was one huge mistake (I kinda needed the money at the time and someone made me an offer I couldn't refuse). That thing sounds awesome and 'alive'.
What a brilliant demo! You are a great player, and I agree with you on which pedal sounds better. However, the original Phase 90 sounds much smoother than the block logo one - a vast difference in mid range emphasis and distortion.
thank you very much! I did a demo of the vintage version as well. I much prefer it to the block logo, even after doing the modification to my Block logo one.
I had forgotten how awesome a Rhodes sounds 😱 a complete band on its own 😂👍
Beautiful Sounds , Thank you for your informed demo mate
Dude I could listen to you play all day. Man. You're inspirational. I play alot of guitar bass and drums and love the classic shit. I really wanna try to transpose things from guitar to piano but piano is far more dynamic of an instrument, considering the amount of notes. Keep playing!
SUCH a helpful vid! Thanks so much for sharing. I bought an MXR Phase 90 a little while back and this vid finally explains the 2nd harmonic distortion as an idiosyncrasy in design (and not a flaw with my particular unit). I have a 78 Janus Suitcase as well as a Stage "FrankenRhodes" with Peterson Preamp. I can absolutely see the appeal of each pedal now that it has been explained. Top shelf vid - and excellent chops. Thanks!
The Small Stone and all the Electro-Harmonix effects function very well. You play very well.
Small Stone sounds excellent on the Wurlitzer also! I thought the Moog 103 was the best Phaser ever until I got my '77 Small Stone. But I noticed that sometimes the low notes are cut out on parts of the sweep.
oh man this was just what I was looking for to how to get that classic funk jazz phaser filtered sound on rhodes :)
Love your playing -The Small Stone gives it that early Joe Z Weather Report feel-I am a guitar player and love the Small Stone it's more transparent and subtle,I just picked up a Moog MF-103 Moogerfooger 6/12 Phaser and am in Love/This pedal has changed the way I play because the possibilities are endless & unlike the Small Stone which is cool for funky Jimi riffing,the Moog is unreal with Mega Distortion,Awesome Video Bro!
I love the sound of the Small Stone. I'm going to get one to go with the Logan String Melody that's coming into my studio in a few weeks. I am really looking forward to using the phase sound on it.
Awesome video! I'd be curious what it sounds like to run the Rhodes into the Small Stone at a super slow setting and then into the MXR at a faster setting.
Old post but UA-cam knows I dig me some Boots. I purchased a Mark V last year and use a vintage Mutron (the original non numbered model) with it. I love it. I had an original in 70s and I foolishly sold it for $50. The one I have now I purchased about 5 years ostensibly for my guitar. But it is a bit noisy and you can hear it pumping subtlety. When I got the Rhodes I tried it and fell in love. It sits on top of the Rhodes. Before going into my amp (1973 Fender Pro Reverb) I also have a nice original Visual Studio’s H2O pedal which offers both phase and delay for additional color. Although with phase it’s either or, not both.
The small stone sounds awesome and offers so many possibilities.
Dude. Wow. At 0:49 and 9:28 I am totally feeling you, bro. I've really gotta stop screwing around and get a setup like yours. Thanks for describing all your equipment too.
I like the clean sound the way it is.. just the way it is :)
I want to learn how to play the rhodes is a beautiful sounding instrument
nothing like it!
especially with a chorus pedal connected to it!
Lovely playing, perfect way to demonstrate these pedals on a rhodes. :)
I have both of those pedals, but am a guitarist learning how to play keys. If I sounded like you, I'd never leave my house.... Beautiful.
Sick as fuck! The rate at 11:33 is beast!
sim city beat
I have a 76 Rhodes and a biphase but my biphase was taken apart before I got it and they couldn't figure out how it went back so I have to get it back together.i'm excited to try it myself. amazing video
Thank you! Hope you get it working! The Bi Phase is amazing!
I love how you have a Wurlitzer casually sitting on top
Awesome. Cool that you're back.
Fantastic playing and a great video! I loved everything about it!
thank you so much!
Great demo! Glad to see you back!
Peachy. Your playing is wonderful too.
Alex Ball really appreciate you mate :)
@@mootbooxle Ditto.
Incredible! Thoroughly enjoyed this video.
Your Rhodes sounds amazing ! And your playing too ! Good to hear someone that knows about Richard Tee . Miss him dearly . I think i want to know more about that suitcase and how you hooked it up without the speaker cab .
That phaser’s out of this world! Ouch!!!
The MXR is a nice, warm delicate swirl. Good for over driven guitars. Small Stones are watery, gooey liquid sounding. They're both good. I use 4 phasros for different tones.
FYI Bernie Worrell used an MXR Phase 100 on the clavinet.
Why did they stop building these?? I have yet to hear a synth that come close to emulating one. It is such a classic sound, and so portable.
Beautiful tones there Moot! I have Rhodes and a MXR Phaze-90 pedal.
The Block logo Phase 90 has feedback from one of the stages back to an earlier stage (4th stage output back to 2nd stage input). The Script Logo version has no feedback. You can find mods to snip that feedback resistor and hook those circuit nodes to a switch or knob for some great variations. I have a 3-way DPDT on-off-on switch on mine with no feedback, stock feedback, and almost enough feedback to make the thing oscillate, but not quite. I call it the WOW Mod. :) I would be happy to mod yours if you wanna talk about it. I'd also be up for looking at your broken Mutron.
Gorgeous playing
very creamy ! beautiful ! I love this tones. Thank You.
I really enjoyed your video. I also really liked your playing. Great style!
If you got a (vintage) Mu-Tron Bi-Phase on hand could you do a review of that? I have a 1976 Bi-Phase hooked up to a 1979 Rhodes MkI with the Haigler preamp paired with a great late 70s transistor amp and it just sounds phenomenal 🤩
It's kind of not a fair 'fight', as the Phase 90 is a 4-stage FET based circuit with two notches, and the the Small Stone has an extra stage (the 'color' switch) using OTA's. Oh, and feedback. If you like the boost and slight distortion of the feedback, you like the Small Stone. But a lot of people don't, and when MXR/Dunlop reissued the Phase 90, they added that feedback, much to the chagrin of a lot of guitar players. Google the 'R28 mod', and know a lot of people removed the feedback (including me), and got a smoother phase effect. That's where the Phase 90 excels, not trying to be a Small Stone.
Not a hard and fast rule, but generally the OTA based phaser will give a strong third harmonic distortion, whereas the FET based phaser has a pronounced second harmonic distortion. It's all taste, and why you should own more than one phase shifter. ;)
Phase 90 = 4 stage (my favorite)
Small stone = 6 stage
@@revsharp777 the Bad Stone has six stages.
@@mrbaiser4133 yes. The bad and small are 6 stage
They also used this for the “Swirling Star” logo theme as you can see at the end of every Hanna-Barbera shows from the 1980’s according to Benjamin. It was a keyboard that legendary cartoon musician Hoyt Curtin was using it at the time.
Hey Mootbooxle this demo is great you should get into all the classic electric piano effects if possible i am going to get both pedals.
i was debating on getting one or the other but thanks to your demo i now see they both can be used nicely in my productions . by the way whats the name of the Jamiroquai tune your were jamming i dont remember it.thanks again for great demos keep up the good work...
Thanks a lot! I don't know what I was doing man, it's like my brain was trying to combine "Cosmic Girl" with "Use The Force" hahah! Both great tunes on a great record!
Beautiful playing...
Wow, I've never seen someone who's Rhodes is so close to mine! Mine is also a late 70's, suitcase with the stage modifications!
awesome!
Thanks so much I’m not a keyboard player but i do dabbled with the bass guitar. I totally appreciate your playing and style!!!
Excellent demo!!! I'm curious about how the rhodes would sound through the EHX Bad Stone.
I love this video. If you could link me on all the other stuff that you did with Rhodes or Wurlitzer. That might be a lot but I watch this all the time and would like to see the others. Thanks
Marvelous player !
Phaser, Flanger, Chorus, Reverb, Delay .. I love them all! Only Pitchshifter are abysmal. ;)
5:21 you hit the note just right it gave me Lonnie Liston smiths vibes. What song was it?
totally! Kind of a weird cross between Lonnie Liston Smith “Expansions” and Jamiroquai “Use The Force”
awesome playing
I had all of these I used on guitar, Wurlitzer 120 piano, and Hammond A100, Vox Jaguar, Farfisa FAST 4 organs
*Mu-Tron II* , an *MXR Phase 90* , and built the *Phase Shifter (w/Vibrato)* from *_Craig Anderton's Electronic Projects For Musicians_*
*Mu-Tron II* is the least desirable imho. The dry signal just sits there unaffected and modifying wet/dry mix just renders a louder phased sound, but the dry is still unaffected underneath. Also not as smooth of a sweep from factory (you can adjust trim pot inside though. Even with that said, in the right band setting, with guitar especially, because of the Resonance control (bottom knob) a guitar solo can sound very sweet and intoxicating.
*MXR Phase 90* is a great pedal! One _Sweep Rate_ knob and the factory wet dry mix renders a good 'affected signal' sound. You can't go wrong with a Phase 90.
*Phase Shifter (w/Vibrato)* Electronic Projects For Musicians. An excellent, very versatile pedal that uses 5 optocouplers CLM6000 (build your own w/ hack. I built mine when CLM6000's were $3-4 ea. so I used them). BUILD IN METAL BOX OR SHIELD BOX WITH FOIL. This pedal is very versatile! Nice wet affected signal, Resonance, wide ultra slow-fast sweeps, True Vibrato (with flip of one switch) is excellent! I prefer it over other vibrato pedals because this pedals sweep can barely move if you desire, and yet the pitch shift can be intense! I call it my *DE-TUN-ATOR!*
you are shredding that thing man, nice to see