I’m really sorry but I would like to point out everything you said in your statement is not correct basically your mistaken and your delivering wrong information to the public. The text you’re referring to was translated from Arabic to Latin during Renaissance sponsored by Medici family the Arabs translated this text from Byzantium philosophers and her Matic Schools where they found those and Greek philosophy books, so I hope you understand they were five translations by not professional linguist such as myself no no I’m not a professional, but my hobbies linguistics among Astro biology anthropology, psychology, psychiatry, psychology, quantum physics, astrophysics, and quantum biology as of recently but I don’t know much about quantum biology. I started my research six months ago and Michael Levine guarantees in one year I will understand more. Michael Levine is also Russian and we talk by email in Russian language, he probably will get noble price in his discipline of microbiology well nevertheless, going back to your statement everything you said is not correct and I can make corrections if you want me too #Bogoslowsky I am immortal king Gilgamesh, kids, call me immortal because I always keep coming back. I am a king because my mother called me king when I was 17 years old when I purchased my first real estate in small town in Poland where we lived, I lived in Poland for 80 years And I have abandoned my real estate immigrate to United States when I was 22 I’m a professional artist for over 40 years, but in New York I was in business for nine years and I retired at age 31 and I’m a full-time artist since my three beautiful daughters graduated colleges and they don’t have to pay for them. They’re brilliant girls they’re doing very well. My girlfriend is a European princess she’s my age she’s the most beautiful woman on earth , she reminds me of Sophia Lauren, but my girlfriend is as tall as me 6 foot tall my feast as hard as a rock because I was practicing karate for five years in my teens and for sport I was punching drunk people in the streets and they used to arrest me in the United States. I was arrested 16 times but let go. I never did any prison time in 2001 I had 11 individual personal solo art shows in New York City, how about you? What is your hobby? How many children do you have? Do you believe in God do you believe your immortal do you believe you will reincarnate 1 billion years from now gazillion miles from here in a different form in a different animal what do you believe in? Who are you?
India was instrumental is parting knowledge to the Greeks, who adapted Indian gods, Agni, Dyus (Zeus), Varurna, Mitra, Indra etc., while Euclid copied theorems from Shulbosutra (Latiana) while writing his ELEMENT, he had five works of Indian geometers, opened in front, when many theorems were copies as they appeared in Yajur Veda. Greek philosophers were similarly tuitioned by the Indian Rishis, surely the notebooks are not to be found as many of Aristotle's note books are not found. Yet this chapter is indeed a very important chapter of human development.
2:35:29 What is this? Primeval elements of which anything is compounded? This sounds, and I know it only sounds, very similar to atoms (or quanta as we call the smallest elements noadays), which Plato hated.
they mean perception as enabled by your sensory capabilities, sight, smell, tactile … whereas say a bat with different sensory capabilities would have a different experience of the same thing, event therefore your sensory perception shapes your reality even though the thing in itself is unchanged.
@@alexcipriani6003 yes, I know what perception means -- but it has a commonsense meaning in which it is supposed by the common man that our perceptions provide us with a direct awareness of reality.
@@alexcipriani6003 when the common man says, 'snow is white', he thinks he is making a true statement about reality. But the philosopher says the statement only describes an appearance, and that the common man judges from this appearance that snow is really white.
@@alexcipriani6003 The common man believes that he is doing nothing more than stating an obvious fact. Therefore, since it is obvious, no act of judgment is required. 'Simply open your eyes and look at the snow, and you will know that it is white.' Now, that is the meaning of perception for the common man. But the philosopher tries to show what is wrong with this common view of perception -- for example, as you did with the bat. Different animals perceive the world in different ways, different people have different perceptions at different times, etc. But more to the point, the philosopher tries to show that all perception is just appearance, and that reality lies hidden behind the appearances. Therefore, we use these appearance to judge what the reality -- that we cannot directly observe -- is actually like. This involves reasoning as well as judgement on our part. So, for the philosopher, the meaning of perception is much more complex than it is for the common man. This is what I meant by saying the term 'perception' is ambiguous.
that's Socrates' whole shtick-- he never claims to know anything himself, he just asks other Athenians to examine their assumptions of what things are to show them that what they believe is often flawed or incoherent. He describes himself as enjoying being perplexed by the world and the inadequacy of his own thoughts for describing it so much that all he wants to do is share that perplexity with others.
@@FroggyTheGroggy true he arrives at justified true belief as knowing, but not knowledge. The point of this whole dialogue is that absolute knowledge is an incoherent concept. His version of knowledge is essentially the same as Russell’s paradox’s view that all knowledge is somewhat tautological- since everything is motion which we can only know through justified belief, we can only know it or not know it through its distinction from everything else and through the parts that comprise it. As a result all concepts and definitions are inseparable from those used to define them, which in turn if we tried to define would bring us back to the first, such that to try to know anything is an attempt to isolate in time and space aspects of our human impressions/categories/sets of knowledge, typically on the occasion of sense perception.
Terrific. More 2,400 year-old audiobooks narrated by Shakespearean actors would be great, if you find anymore laying around.
According to Fomanko, history as we know it is 900 years off! Not 2,400 years, my friend, but 1,500 years ago did Plato live. Do you like statistics?
Well then it sounds like your friend Fomenko is in the same realm of legitimacy as David Icke and Kent Hovind.
I’m really sorry but I would like to point out everything you said in your statement is not correct basically your mistaken and your delivering wrong information to the public. The text you’re referring to was translated from Arabic to Latin during Renaissance sponsored by Medici family the Arabs translated this text from Byzantium philosophers and her Matic Schools where they found those and Greek philosophy books, so I hope you understand they were five translations by not professional linguist such as myself no no I’m not a professional, but my hobbies linguistics among Astro biology anthropology, psychology, psychiatry, psychology, quantum physics, astrophysics, and quantum biology as of recently but I don’t know much about quantum biology. I started my research six months ago and Michael Levine guarantees in one year I will understand more. Michael Levine is also Russian and we talk by email in Russian language, he probably will get noble price in his discipline of microbiology well nevertheless, going back to your statement everything you said is not correct and I can make corrections if you want me too
#Bogoslowsky
I am immortal king Gilgamesh, kids, call me immortal because I always keep coming back. I am a king because my mother called me king when I was 17 years old when I purchased my first real estate in small town in Poland where we lived, I lived in Poland for 80 years And I have abandoned my real estate immigrate to United States when I was 22
I’m a professional artist for over 40 years, but in New York I was in business for nine years and I retired at age 31 and I’m a full-time artist since my three beautiful daughters graduated colleges and they don’t have to pay for them. They’re brilliant girls they’re doing very well. My girlfriend is a European princess she’s my age she’s the most beautiful woman on earth , she reminds me of Sophia Lauren, but my girlfriend is as tall as me 6 foot tall my feast as hard as a rock because I was practicing karate for five years in my teens and for sport I was punching drunk people in the streets and they used to arrest me in the United States. I was arrested 16 times but let go. I never did any prison time in 2001 I had 11 individual personal solo art shows in New York City, how about you? What is your hobby? How many children do you have? Do you believe in God do you believe your immortal do you believe you will reincarnate 1 billion years from now gazillion miles from here in a different form in a different animal what do you believe in? Who are you?
India was instrumental is parting knowledge to the Greeks, who adapted Indian gods, Agni, Dyus (Zeus), Varurna, Mitra, Indra etc., while Euclid copied theorems from Shulbosutra (Latiana) while writing his ELEMENT, he had five works of Indian geometers, opened in front, when many theorems were copies as they appeared in Yajur Veda.
Greek philosophers were similarly tuitioned by the Indian Rishis, surely the notebooks are not to be found as many of Aristotle's note books are not found. Yet this chapter is indeed a very important chapter of human development.
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Magnificent.
2:35:29 What is this? Primeval elements of which anything is compounded? This sounds, and I know it only sounds, very similar to atoms (or quanta as we call the smallest elements noadays), which Plato hated.
There is an ambiguity in the term 'perception' -- as it can mean either a direct awareness of an object, or a judgment about that same object.
they mean perception as enabled by your sensory capabilities, sight, smell, tactile … whereas say a bat with different sensory capabilities would have a different experience of the same thing, event therefore your sensory perception shapes your reality even though the thing in itself is unchanged.
@@alexcipriani6003 yes, I know what perception means -- but it has a commonsense meaning in which it is supposed by the common man that our perceptions provide us with a direct awareness of reality.
@@alexcipriani6003 the philosopher, in contrast with the common man, analyzes perception into a kind of judgment based on an appearance.
@@alexcipriani6003 when the common man says, 'snow is white', he thinks he is making a true statement about reality.
But the philosopher says the statement only describes an appearance, and that the common man judges from this appearance that snow is really white.
@@alexcipriani6003 The common man believes that he is doing nothing more than stating an obvious fact. Therefore, since it is obvious, no act of judgment is required. 'Simply open your eyes and look at the snow, and you will know that it is white.' Now, that is the meaning of perception for the common man. But the philosopher tries to show what is wrong with this common view of perception -- for example, as you did with the bat. Different animals perceive the world in different ways, different people have different perceptions at different times, etc. But more to the point, the philosopher tries to show that all perception is just appearance, and that reality lies hidden behind the appearances. Therefore, we use these appearance to judge what the reality -- that we cannot directly observe -- is actually like. This involves reasoning as well as judgement on our part. So, for the philosopher, the meaning of perception is much more complex than it is for the common man. This is what I meant by saying the term 'perception' is ambiguous.
Theaetetus gives us a masterclass in keeping up with this guy! I'd be so confused
Has anyone ever steelmaned an argument as much as socrates does in steelmaning Protagoras' argument ?.
Jowett?
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There should be more discussion about this, but I fear for the ‘modern day mind’, it doesn’t seem capable of understanding the beauty of the Elenchus.
In this dialogue, Socrates makes arguments about what knowledge isn't, but he never actually says what knowledge is.
that's Socrates' whole shtick-- he never claims to know anything himself, he just asks other Athenians to examine their assumptions of what things are to show them that what they believe is often flawed or incoherent. He describes himself as enjoying being perplexed by the world and the inadequacy of his own thoughts for describing it so much that all he wants to do is share that perplexity with others.
that's what the midwifery bit is meant to establish in this one
He later lays it out as Justified true belief
@@FroggyTheGroggy true he arrives at justified true belief as knowing, but not knowledge. The point of this whole dialogue is that absolute knowledge is an incoherent concept. His version of knowledge is essentially the same as Russell’s paradox’s view that all knowledge is somewhat tautological- since everything is motion which we can only know through justified belief, we can only know it or not know it through its distinction from everything else and through the parts that comprise it. As a result all concepts and definitions are inseparable from those used to define them, which in turn if we tried to define would bring us back to the first, such that to try to know anything is an attempt to isolate in time and space aspects of our human impressions/categories/sets of knowledge, typically on the occasion of sense perception.
@@FroggyTheGroggylisten starting at 2:38:20 and then if you’re not familiar w Russell’s paradox of sets look that up
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Socrates is also funny. Who knew?
Ukemi doesn't seem to be right
it's from ukemi's "socratic dialogues: middle period, volume 1"
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