Everyone… I had some horrible noises just weeks after install. Popping when turning and going over bumps. I took them out and installed OEM and have had no issues since.
I experienced the same issue with several other QuickStrut assemblies, and would replace with other brands, only to find other brands were the same manufacturer. Ultimately fixed this on my final set of shocks by spraying lithium spray generously on the top off the tower. WD-40 is a handy test to see if that will work, and does no harm to lubricate the part that turns when the wheel turns. If the noise goes away, keep spraying. After a few hundred miles and handful of sprays, I've not sprayed for a couple years now, and they're quiet as OEM. I just suspect another issue is the manufacturer is over tightening the top nut and compressing, but lube will make it happy.
@@jasonbengel I will be doing this tomorrow with the KYB struts listed that John used above. I really really hope that I do not experience the noises that you all are referring to. Where are you spraying the lithium spray? At the top of strut, as in from inside the hood? Or at the top of the inside of the strut. As in from inside the wheel well?
@@nathanandrews9659 KYB is about the best brand you can get right now. Monroe has gone downhill -- I don't know why Monroe has gone that way, but they've just become awful. The strut mount is the #1 cause of it getting "stuck" and causing the clunking sound as the spring binds to the mount that allows the wheel to turn. Try your best to get spray into that mount, around the screw on the top, and underneath the plate that is held on by the top nut. The part you're trying to lubricate is covered, but is called the "collar bearing". The collar bearing is located right underneath the strut mount that is held on by the top bolt. [It goes without saying that nobody should ever remove that top nut for risk of dismemberment, death, and so on.] See also Scotty Kilmer's video "Doing This With WD-40 Will Save You Thousands in Car Repairs" to see idea of using it to find where noises are coming in your suspension (like the ball joint), re: in the 6:20 minute mark. Also see "Doing This Will Make Your Car's Suspension Last Forever" at the 6-minute mark, where he's pouring rubber-revigeration product in the area that I'm suggesting you spray lithium spray. Note that in some of his older videos from 2015, he likes Monroe struts, but recent Scotty videos say how much he hates Monroe and warns against cheap or bad strut mounts.
damn that sucks. when you bought the oem shocks, did it come as a full assembly or did you have to reuse old parts. If you reused old parts, did you reuse from the kyb or the old oem parts.
Excellent instruction! Thank you for producing this video. My first time replacing a Civic strut and it helped to watch you do it before I tackle the job. One helpful hint I've found when removing wiper arms is to use a grease marker and draw a line along the length of the arm on the windshield glass as a reference when reinstalling.
thanks for the video! Will be undertaking this task next week on my 9th gen civic! PS I really like that flashlight your using I have the exact same one
I almost feel like you need to replace any 9th gen civic front struts with OEM. I bought the Monroe quick strut and not having any better luck. The first strut I tried would not fit, the spacing at the bottom of the strut was 1 1/8" when it needs to be at least 1 1/4", so the first strut was defective and confirmed it was the correct part number. I got a replacement strut and the spacing was 1 1/2" at the bottom and fit nicely, its funny because between 3 struts (one was returned), I had 3 different sizes. Now after I have these installed I hear a squeak every time I go over a bump at high speed, or a big bump at low speed, such as my driveway curb. I was told to torque the mounting plate nuts when the tire is on the ground, I did this and still have the noise. I tried spraying lithium grease and still have this noise. After reading tonnes of forums and watching videos, it seems that all quick strut assemblies for 9th gen civics are garbage, which is mainly Monroe and KYB. Even though you can install them easy, I would rather not deal with the damn noises and having to constantly remove struts all the time. The only plus side to these shitty struts is that I can install them very quickly now.
Agree, this car is very finicky about aftermarket anything. Even non-OEM brake pads resulting in clunking/squeaking, aftermarket Gate's serpentine belt was too short. I appreciate the warning. Looking at the parts diagram, is the OEM shocks include a rubber crylinder that goes inside or around the coil spring 51684-SNA-A02 . Followed by a seat spring that I am not sure where it goes, 51688-TR0-A01 . If the quick strut assemblies do not include this, I could see why there is noise. Everyone seems to continually get duped by aftermarket's cheaper and also less-labor required work, but you end up having to re-do the job. Everyone always goes for the quick struts because they are less labor intensive, but they forget at the end of the day they are installing an aftermarket part, not OEM. So if you don't run into fitment issues, you'll probably run into durability or poor NVH. I would still try KYB front struts if the car is old, followed with buying the rubber pieces and OEM top hat or bearing...looks like Honda has it as a separate part.
I'm planning to use the same strut plus assembly from kyb, i hope you can share the performance, also the comparison of the stock spring to the new kyb spring.
I did the exact same replacement like 7 months ago on my 2013 civic, but both struts are now suffering from a clunking sound every time I turn the wheel. First it started on the left one, then a week later the right one started doing the same sound. I checked and apparently the spring moves a little bit inside the strut assembly when the wheel turns, therefore I tried tightening the top nut of the strut just in case it was a little loose, but no luck and still the same noise. I was wondering how are yours working until now? thank you in advance and great video btw!
John P thank you for your answer!!! I was wondering if these struts were not good at all and you just confirmed me! Thank you again, I will too take them out and go for OEM.
@@DIYManiacJohnP I agreed on that, I replaced my back struts with OEM but when I inspected them, they were made by KYB. I wonder if the company have higher quality control when make OEM vs their standard equipment.
Doesn't anti-seize compound on high torque areas like those strut bolts not reduce the torque applied by about 25% or so? I thought it wasn't recommended really
Any time there is a bushing involved, you should torque to final value under the pressure of the weight of the car. This service does not involve any bushings. All connections are clean through bolt applications with no friction changes from the weight of the car. You do not need to wait to torque these fasteners for this job.
Nice video brother. You explained everything nicely with fastener size and torch required. Do you have any service manual for that torch reference? If you have it Can you please provide it to me? Thank you
I will be doing this tomorrow for my Honda Civic but I don't have a torque wrench can I just tighten them reasonably and go on with it or do I really need to go buy a torque wrench?
That access cap is why people live Hondas. Honda encorages you to learn about cars😍. I have a 2014 here in Châteauguay 233k. Why did you change fromt ones? Usually the back ones go bad . I have replaced back ones twice but never changed fronts.
@@DIYManiacJohnP Cheap struts have a larger diameter spring to compensate for lower quality spring metal , so they often ride rougher and can even cause the front end of the car to ride higher.
Im not too mechanically inclined, but i just replaced the front brake pads on my 12 civic and noticed the rubber inside the coil springs on my struts are torn and floppy. Does that mean I need to replace the struts like in this video, or just the rubber?
@@DIYManiacJohnP Looking at the struts at 8:16, the rubber I’m referring to is inside the spring (under the yellow tags). They are completely torn and disconnected on my vehicle and expose the metal beneath them. Sorry if this doesn’t help, I don’t know the specific name of that piece.
@@codys3890 ah! The part is called a strut “belows” pronounces “bell ohs” this part keeps dirt and debris off the strut rod and helps avoid damage to the strut rot wiper and seals. This part can be replaced separately but require removing and dismantling the strut.
@@DIYManiacJohnP Looks like I need to find out how to disassemble the strut and if it’s within my capabilities. I do appreciate this video, it’s very instructive and will help if I end up replacing the front struts. Thank you so much for the information!
I found your video after the return period is over for the KYB struts that I bought. I am now regretting my purchase and do not want to bother installing them. Any advice?
@@DIYManiacJohnP I have gotten a response from the retailer and they will not accept a return. I have seen greasing tips from other users, so I will try those when the replacement is done.
@@DIYManiacJohnP it's been 2 weeks and no change it's still sitting very high, I will give it more time to see what happens, worst case if I wanted to reinstall the OEM springs using the the same struts from the KYB loaded struts would that be a problem?
@@garycheeatow802 The reason it was higher is because the springs are made from a thicker diameter steel, because it's not as good in quality, and they are too stiff. i wouldn't advise mixing and matching components. You can have factory struts rebuilt with parts from Honda , like the spring and strut bearing for example. the downside is you need a strut compressor...a good one not a cheap one.
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Everyone… I had some horrible noises just weeks after install. Popping when turning and going over bumps.
I took them out and installed OEM and have had no issues since.
I experienced the same issue with several other QuickStrut assemblies, and would replace with other brands, only to find other brands were the same manufacturer. Ultimately fixed this on my final set of shocks by spraying lithium spray generously on the top off the tower. WD-40 is a handy test to see if that will work, and does no harm to lubricate the part that turns when the wheel turns. If the noise goes away, keep spraying. After a few hundred miles and handful of sprays, I've not sprayed for a couple years now, and they're quiet as OEM. I just suspect another issue is the manufacturer is over tightening the top nut and compressing, but lube will make it happy.
@@jasonbengel I will be doing this tomorrow with the KYB struts listed that John used above. I really really hope that I do not experience the noises that you all are referring to. Where are you spraying the lithium spray? At the top of strut, as in from inside the hood? Or at the top of the inside of the strut. As in from inside the wheel well?
@@nathanandrews9659 KYB is about the best brand you can get right now. Monroe has gone downhill -- I don't know why Monroe has gone that way, but they've just become awful. The strut mount is the #1 cause of it getting "stuck" and causing the clunking sound as the spring binds to the mount that allows the wheel to turn. Try your best to get spray into that mount, around the screw on the top, and underneath the plate that is held on by the top nut. The part you're trying to lubricate is covered, but is called the "collar bearing". The collar bearing is located right underneath the strut mount that is held on by the top bolt. [It goes without saying that nobody should ever remove that top nut for risk of dismemberment, death, and so on.]
See also Scotty Kilmer's video "Doing This With WD-40 Will Save You Thousands in Car Repairs" to see idea of using it to find where noises are coming in your suspension (like the ball joint), re: in the 6:20 minute mark.
Also see "Doing This Will Make Your Car's Suspension Last Forever" at the 6-minute mark, where he's pouring rubber-revigeration product in the area that I'm suggesting you spray lithium spray. Note that in some of his older videos from 2015, he likes Monroe struts, but recent Scotty videos say how much he hates Monroe and warns against cheap or bad strut mounts.
damn that sucks. when you bought the oem shocks, did it come as a full assembly or did you have to reuse old parts. If you reused old parts, did you reuse from the kyb or the old oem parts.
@@feliiiik the OEM are just the shocks. I only reused the original springs. I bought a new top plates / bearings.
Excellent instruction! Thank you for producing this video. My first time replacing a Civic strut and it helped to watch you do it before I tackle the job. One helpful hint I've found when removing wiper arms is to use a grease marker and draw a line along the length of the arm on the windshield glass as a reference when reinstalling.
Great video, but it does help showing full process, and not cutting out the bolts/clips removals. Some of us are more visual learners.
Thanks for the Video. I should be attempting this one day on my 2012. The car is originally from Winnipeg, now in Calgary. Hope it's not too rusty lol
Thanks man, an excellent, straightforward video.
Good video, but yo forgot one important step. Strut bolts are to be tightened under the weight of the vehicle to avoid premature stress on bolts
Excellent vid, thank you for your thorough explanation.
Thanks for watching
thanks for the video! Will be undertaking this task next week on my 9th gen civic! PS I really like that flashlight your using I have the exact same one
Thank you. I'm gonna attempt this in a month
Terrific video man! Very descriptive and touches on wrenching techniques too. Plus you have the same car as me. Keep them vids coming.
Thank you for the kind words!
Awesome video John, thanks 👍
Thank you for watching
Great explanation, great video.
I almost feel like you need to replace any 9th gen civic front struts with OEM. I bought the Monroe quick strut and not having any better luck. The first strut I tried would not fit, the spacing at the bottom of the strut was 1 1/8" when it needs to be at least 1 1/4", so the first strut was defective and confirmed it was the correct part number. I got a replacement strut and the spacing was 1 1/2" at the bottom and fit nicely, its funny because between 3 struts (one was returned), I had 3 different sizes. Now after I have these installed I hear a squeak every time I go over a bump at high speed, or a big bump at low speed, such as my driveway curb. I was told to torque the mounting plate nuts when the tire is on the ground, I did this and still have the noise. I tried spraying lithium grease and still have this noise. After reading tonnes of forums and watching videos, it seems that all quick strut assemblies for 9th gen civics are garbage, which is mainly Monroe and KYB. Even though you can install them easy, I would rather not deal with the damn noises and having to constantly remove struts all the time. The only plus side to these shitty struts is that I can install them very quickly now.
Agree, this car is very finicky about aftermarket anything. Even non-OEM brake pads resulting in clunking/squeaking, aftermarket Gate's serpentine belt was too short. I appreciate the warning.
Looking at the parts diagram, is the OEM shocks include a rubber crylinder that goes inside or around the coil spring 51684-SNA-A02 . Followed by a seat spring that I am not sure where it goes, 51688-TR0-A01 . If the quick strut assemblies do not include this, I could see why there is noise. Everyone seems to continually get duped by aftermarket's cheaper and also less-labor required work, but you end up having to re-do the job.
Everyone always goes for the quick struts because they are less labor intensive, but they forget at the end of the day they are installing an aftermarket part, not OEM. So if you don't run into fitment issues, you'll probably run into durability or poor NVH. I would still try KYB front struts if the car is old, followed with buying the rubber pieces and OEM top hat or bearing...looks like Honda has it as a separate part.
I'm planning to use the same strut plus assembly from kyb, i hope you can share the performance, also the comparison of the stock spring to the new kyb spring.
How did it go
Thank you my friend! Helped me a ton
Great work John I saved a lot of $$ from your videos thanks you ... keep them coming with the 2013 civic 🙏💯✊
Thank you for watching
From my research, it seems like those top nuts should not be torqued to spec until the wheels are on the ground?
Great video. Very well explained.
Thank you!
For a 2017 honda civic touring what is the torque for the front struts (top 3 flange nuts)?
Very well explained.
Thank you for watching
Oh wow I feel comfortable doing this myself now after watching this video. The Honda dealership is charging me $1,400.
Thanks for watching.
I did the exact same replacement like 7 months ago on my 2013 civic, but both struts are now suffering from a clunking sound every time I turn the wheel. First it started on the left one, then a week later the right one started doing the same sound. I checked and apparently the spring moves a little bit inside the strut assembly when the wheel turns, therefore I tried tightening the top nut of the strut just in case it was a little loose, but no luck and still the same noise. I was wondering how are yours working until now? thank you in advance and great video btw!
Took them out after 2 months due to noises. Went with OEM and am very happy.
John P thank you for your answer!!! I was wondering if these struts were not good at all and you just confirmed me! Thank you again, I will too take them out and go for OEM.
@@UlisesRodriguez08 I should have known better than to go with something other than OEM we live and we learn
Two weeks with kyb strut plus. Getting a lot of noise when turning left or right.
@@DIYManiacJohnP I agreed on that, I replaced my back struts with OEM but when I inspected them, they were made by KYB. I wonder if the company have higher quality control when make OEM vs their standard equipment.
Nice job very detailed
Doesn't anti-seize compound on high torque areas like those strut bolts not reduce the torque applied by about 25% or so? I thought it wasn't recommended really
Great video! I was curious if it really matters to torque the strut before the wheel is put back on the car and lowered?
Any time there is a bushing involved, you should torque to final value under the pressure of the weight of the car. This service does not involve any bushings. All connections are clean through bolt applications with no friction changes from the weight of the car. You do not need to wait to torque these fasteners for this job.
Nice video brother.
You explained everything nicely with fastener size and torch required.
Do you have any service manual for that torch reference?
If you have it Can you please provide it to me?
Thank you
Thank you. Please email me at diymaniacjp@gmail.com
@@DIYManiacJohnP please check your email.
Great video
Do you know if those struts fit a 2015 honda civic ex coupe?
Do you know if thise would fit a 2015 honda civic ex coupe?
Great how to vid. Thanks!
Thanks so much
Very well told how to, thank you very much.
I will be doing this tomorrow for my Honda Civic but I don't have a torque wrench can I just tighten them reasonably and go on with it or do I really need to go buy a torque wrench?
I can not tell you what to do… but this is your suspension and a critical component.
Needing to do this after being dumb entering a plaza too hard
i had parts not fit for my 2013 coupe si from rock auto.
Is the compressed length the same with oem? im about to replace my strut, but im wondering if kyb have the same compressed length with oem
The ride height is about the same
thanks
@@DIYManiacJohnP how about performance?
@@Fredflinstone23 not super happy with them. I find them firmer than OEM. They are also a little noisier
@@DIYManiacJohnP Thanks for the input, i might just go with OE then
That access cap is why people live Hondas. Honda encorages you to learn about cars😍. I have a 2014 here in Châteauguay 233k. Why did you change fromt ones? Usually the back ones go bad . I have replaced back ones twice but never changed fronts.
Driver side front failed and leak so I decided to replace both as the best practice
Jon, what was the issue with struts, why replace them? My left side strut is fine but the assy is making noise. Maybe bearing up top is worn.
I was finding the ride quality more rough
@@DIYManiacJohnP Cheap struts have a larger diameter spring to compensate for lower quality spring metal , so they often ride rougher and can even cause the front end of the car to ride higher.
Im not too mechanically inclined, but i just replaced the front brake pads on my 12 civic and noticed the rubber inside the coil springs on my struts are torn and floppy. Does that mean I need to replace the struts like in this video, or just the rubber?
Hi. Can you be more specific as to what rubber you are talking about?
@@DIYManiacJohnP Looking at the struts at 8:16, the rubber I’m referring to is inside the spring (under the yellow tags). They are completely torn and disconnected on my vehicle and expose the metal beneath them. Sorry if this doesn’t help, I don’t know the specific name of that piece.
@@codys3890 ah! The part is called a strut “belows” pronounces “bell ohs” this part keeps dirt and debris off the strut rod and helps avoid damage to the strut rot wiper and seals. This part can be replaced separately but require removing and dismantling the strut.
@@DIYManiacJohnP Looks like I need to find out how to disassemble the strut and if it’s within my capabilities. I do appreciate this video, it’s very instructive and will help if I end up replacing the front struts. Thank you so much for the information!
This struts work a 2015 coupe?
Is this the 9th gen lx or ex?
EX
love you
good job😂
Thanks lots man for the video
I found your video after the return period is over for the KYB struts that I bought.
I am now regretting my purchase and do not want to bother installing them.
Any advice?
I would still reach out to the vendor to see if you can return. Some people have had success greasing the top plate where the spring makes contact.
Sounds like a plan.
If they won't take them back, I can see about greasing it thoroughly.
@@brentking6738 it sucks that they make that noise. But some people report to me issue free. You could try installing them and see what happens
@@DIYManiacJohnP I have gotten a response from the retailer and they will not accept a return.
I have seen greasing tips from other users, so I will try those when the replacement is done.
After how many k miles/km you found the ride rough and decided to replace the struts?
Do you find the ride much softer after the replacement?
180K KM and the replacement ride stiffer
whyd you cut out taking out and putting it in
Prob because he’s holding the phone in one hand and would be difficult to film and remove at the same time.
Thanks!! That was back in the day when I was still figuring out how to make videos. Little secret…. I am still figuring it out lol
How long did it take you to do all this. ?
About 2 hours for both sides.
Where did you get the torque specs for front struts?
From the Honda service manual
Installed those kyb loaded struts on my 2012 Honda Civic and my car is sitting very high it looks so ridiculous hate it.
Give it time to settle. May take a couple weeks to settle fully
@@DIYManiacJohnP it's been 2 weeks and no change it's still sitting very high, I will give it more time to see what happens, worst case if I wanted to reinstall the OEM springs using the the same struts from the KYB loaded struts would that be a problem?
@@garycheeatow802 The reason it was higher is because the springs are made from a thicker diameter steel, because it's not as good in quality, and they are too stiff. i wouldn't advise mixing and matching components. You can have factory struts rebuilt with parts from Honda , like the spring and strut bearing for example. the downside is you need a strut compressor...a good one not a cheap one.
Thanks
Very easy struts. Especially the "quick" struts. The hardest part is disassembling the wipers, cowling, etc and that's not that difficult
If you live in the rust belt. Take it to a shop. Because it suck I done them. Get stock honda parts.
Big thank U to help others with U video real interesting6þř
Be advised!!! This did not take 15 minutes like in the video!!! This project took me well over 3hrs, and was a pain in the ass to do.
You should physically show your work instead of just saying what you did.
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