About the last effect of the spell card: in the duel against Yugi in the semis of Battle City, Seto tributes his combined XYZ to summon Obelisk (treating it as three monsters). I think that’s the reference here.
@lunerblade13 I'm not actually confident that I'd say Gozoburo was the more ruthless, given that Kaiba murdered several people to aquire his three blue-eyes, and released a convicted serial killer just to kill Yugi
The level 8 light machine fusion text is written that way to specifically only work with the ABC, XYZ and VWXYZ fusions.... And according to yugipedia, it also includes Cyber Twin Dragon.
I think that second effect you're thinking is meant to be a Summon BEs reference might be for Obelisk. Because what else would Kaiba love to summon after Special Summoning 3 monsters at the same time to get this effect?
it's definitely meant to search obelisk. kaiba would tribute XYZ Dragon Cannon to summon it often since in the anime it could be treated as 3 materials. (but I do like how they made it 3000 or more, so you could search blue-eyes too 👀)
Also, it's an upgrade to help the older cards more. I like how it has updated support instead of being tacked on extra cards in the archetype. These new cards are good. I like full archetypes that can play on its own without engines or outside support
I wanna see what cool stuff you can do with the spells search and tribute effect. What comes to mind to me is beast king barbaros for the nuke and metaltron xii for the immunity to monster effects and a potential float
This support is soo close to being what the deck needed. The problem is the new boss monster, which is clearly just a bridge into the original XYZ-Dragon Cannon, goes about it in the most unhelpful way. If it summoned the components from the deck, or even just included the hand it would be great, but reviving the components only works if you have a consistent way to dump them. Currently the best way to summon the Original XYZ-Dragon Cannon is to open Union Hanger and XYZ Combine. Activate Hanger; search Either Y-Dragon Head or Z-Metal Tank. Activate XYZ Combine. Summon the searched card, then equip the other to it with Union Hangers second effect. Contact fuse them into XY-Tank Dragon. Activate Combines First effect to summon X-Head Cannon, then defuse XY-Tank Dragon with XYZ Combine second effect, then combine your new 3 monsters into XYZ-Dragon Cannon. Since the new support doesn't take on the names of the original cards or summon them more efficiently, the only things the new support adds is a way to search the previously unsearchable XYZ Combine. So good luck summoning ABC-Dragon Buster without Union Hanger's effects. If the new support has unlocked other ways to get A-to-Z on the board (or at least get XYZ-Dragon Cannon on the board easier) let me know
@@theimpostorafungus1213 Well that's highly disappointing. Which they straight up counted as the old ones so it would be an easy replacement and actual support for them.
Good to know that my Patreon voted video is now outdated. Oh well that’s how It goes sometimes. Also in battle city for some reason XYZ dragon Cannon was treated as three tributes so he tribute it for God. Pretty sure that’s a reference for the spell
Question: The new Y head and Z tank can loop themselves as long there's light machine monsters banished?, I mean, SS one to get themselves or other one using like a max 6 card to loop and summon things as long are "light machine" from extra or anything by adding extra normal summon for tributes?, even using monters cards to banish instead sending to grave to keep the loop going? This could possibly end on bringing multiple CD infinity? And other monsters? I mean, as long as they are Special summon can fetch something from the banish zone, then the new piece will special summon itself to fetch another thing and I think it's a soft one per turn the self summon while equipped
Been spreading this around since I realized it but: X equips Y to make Controller which adds Activation. Activation adds Z which Controller summons, letting Z equip Y to make a second Controller. This makes Beatrice. These cards have a 1 card turn skip. X isnt the only one that does it though since Activation also has a line. Activation add X. Summon X and equip Y to make controller and add Hangar. Hangar add Z. Controller summons Z and Z equips Y to make another Controller. Thats a total of 9 copies of a 1 card Beatrice line to turn skip with. Can even add more by using a SHS engine if you want but feels like the bricks arent worth it lol.
I also thought of making Beatrice when I saw union controller, bit I didn't think about just making another controller. I was too hyper focused on checking if there were any level 6 main deck monsters with 3k atk (there isn't)
Honestly I have no idea how these will end up matching with other stuff, I'm just going to make a list with these as it's the only fusion archetype I've ever really enjoyed
I feel like they missed an opportunity to make it an actual XYZ monster. Its right there in the name, and you're already stacking them on top of each other! Other than that, these look amazing! The new Hyper Dragon Cannon is definitely up to par with ABC. The materials and summoning condition are infinitely less clunky compared to the originals, and the tag-out effect is extremely good - XYZ can't dodge targeting with it like ABC, but you can set up a ton of link materials plus another Fusion Summon The removal effect is strictly worse than ABC's, and a bit of a side-grade compared to the old XYZ. It's a Quick Effect and can hit spells/traps now, but you can only use it once per opponent's turn instead of an unrestricted number of times on your turn.
I must say even if like a lot X-Y-Z i find a bad joke the fact that we didn't had Sartorius Arcana Forces support on this set about LIGHT PLAYERS even if he was the leader of the society of LIGHT only used LIGHT monsters was being controlled by the LIGHT of destruction and 2024 is the 20 anniversary of the series where he appeared
We don't have all the set spoilers yet, do we? Because we BETTER get Arcana Force. Seriously, Unions almost broke the game less than half a decade ago and now we're getting more of them when I can only remember Arcana Force receiving the one additional anime import, and that something like a year ago?
JUST RUN A PURE VERSION OF THEM that is all the A card-themed. That combo really freaking well on their own it's the primary thing I don't like about Yugioh where you can't just play entirely pure archetype like other card game aka buddyfight cardfight vanguard mtg, etc
In my opinion these are very mediocre and do nothing the Ojama support doesn't do better. Maybe in a dedicated deck it'll be okay but in my Manjoume and my Kaiba decks these are not needed.
About the last effect of the spell card: in the duel against Yugi in the semis of Battle City, Seto tributes his combined XYZ to summon Obelisk (treating it as three monsters). I think that’s the reference here.
Yup thats it
It's so hilarious that the most cutthroat capitalist businessman in the series is known for using literal Union monsters.
Aren’t you talking about gozuburo not Seto. The former wanted to become an actual warmonger.
@lunerblade13
I'm not actually confident that I'd say Gozoburo was the more ruthless, given that Kaiba murdered several people to aquire his three blue-eyes, and released a convicted serial killer just to kill Yugi
Not to mention "Kaiba" stole Kaiba Corp. from his father in the first place.@@theonewhowatches869
@@theonewhowatches869 that was pre-mind crush kaiba, he got better after it
Wait, why or how is that "hilarious?"
The Y Earhead was copied wrong - it equips from hand or GY (so it isn't identical to Z).
It's fixed now on the site
Ooooooohhhh that makes sense
I love how the spell basically makes this an obelisk "archetype" the same as what the poker knights is to slifer
So I take it
Slifer: Poker Knights
Obelisk: XYZ Union
Ra: Slimes?
@@8bitdiedie Pretty much. Although Poker Knights also counts as Ra's
@@8bitdiediebecause of the way ra gets supports, ra kinda just become his own thing but slime is the closest one yeah
@8bitdiedie Ra : smile look like obelisk very sus birdy very sus
Eventually:/@@8bitdiedie
We can finally play abc and xyz in one deck more effectively!
Good lord, that thumbnail.
"You'll never catch me, Krabs! Not when I switch into *MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE"*
The level 8 light machine fusion text is written that way to specifically only work with the ABC, XYZ and VWXYZ fusions....
And according to yugipedia, it also includes Cyber Twin Dragon.
Yet some think we "don't need to play the originals."
I think that second effect you're thinking is meant to be a Summon BEs reference might be for Obelisk. Because what else would Kaiba love to summon after Special Summoning 3 monsters at the same time to get this effect?
They basically FINALLY gave Kaiba his Arcana Knights
it's definitely meant to search obelisk. kaiba would tribute XYZ Dragon Cannon to summon it often since in the anime it could be treated as 3 materials. (but I do like how they made it 3000 or more, so you could search blue-eyes too 👀)
Hahah, the last spell card lets you summon blue ey-
.....wait, 3000 or MORE?...... Obelisk?
Yes obelisk. More likely BK Barbaros.
Beast King Barbaros might be the best
@@BronzeAnalystTM yeah, it would be. Just realizing it can summon Obelisk like Yugi's card knight cards.
@@LChaos2 yeah, it would be.
I think it would have been really funny if they made a 3-mat Rank 4 Xyz version of XYZ Dragon Cannon
7:37 not quite a monster, a GOD (this is basically harlequin trio for obelisk)
Edit: minor spelling mistake
My immediate thought was “Oh good, now I can put obelisk into my ojama deck”
I feel like Slifer would work better with all the free searches and draws Ojamas enable
My first thought was damn these cards don’t work with ojamas, because the fusion’s name doesn’t count as original for fusion shenanigans
If only we could get a v w retrain
Right, to help search the originals.
Seriously, just look at these retrains.
@Bezaliel13 idk but those two are my favorite
@@josephrasgado1782
Chazz: "Of course they are."
The effect that normal summons the 3k+ attack monster is a reference to Kaiba tributing XYZ Dragon Cannon to summon Obelisk.
They're probably also going to have Kaiba high jack the set cover from Mizar, like what happened with the Water Duelist Pack
Also, it's an upgrade to help the older cards more. I like how it has updated support instead of being tacked on extra cards in the archetype. These new cards are good. I like full archetypes that can play on its own without engines or outside support
One day arcana force… one day.
That's... a lot of copium my friend... could you lend me some?
There is a one card The World combo with this now.
@@AlphaSquadZero How! Oh wait I think I see it... Goddamnit that's some cursed knowledge you gave me.
I wanna see what cool stuff you can do with the spells search and tribute effect. What comes to mind to me is beast king barbaros for the nuke and metaltron xii for the immunity to monster effects and a potential float
Think parts of this could be splashed into cyber dragon with all this light machine and fusion emphasis?
This plus psychic arsenal/processor could make for an interesting multi-archetype fusion deck.
I loved ABC unions back when they first came out. If these makes those bad boys even a little playable in the meta I am going all in
If nothing else, X is a good in archetype extender and with controller the deck is a bit more consistent.
@@lordquaz7154 Yep. Now you have 2 one card starters. So the deck isn't just draw hanger or lose
@@ChampionMarx Not to mention, if you already opened hanger you can search unauthorised with controller, so you have an added bit of protection.
This is really interesting to mix it with drytron.
This support is soo close to being what the deck needed. The problem is the new boss monster, which is clearly just a bridge into the original XYZ-Dragon Cannon, goes about it in the most unhelpful way. If it summoned the components from the deck, or even just included the hand it would be great, but reviving the components only works if you have a consistent way to dump them.
Currently the best way to summon the Original XYZ-Dragon Cannon is to open Union Hanger and XYZ Combine. Activate Hanger; search Either Y-Dragon Head or Z-Metal Tank. Activate XYZ Combine. Summon the searched card, then equip the other to it with Union Hangers second effect. Contact fuse them into XY-Tank Dragon. Activate Combines First effect to summon X-Head Cannon, then defuse XY-Tank Dragon with XYZ Combine second effect, then combine your new 3 monsters into XYZ-Dragon Cannon. Since the new support doesn't take on the names of the original cards or summon them more efficiently, the only things the new support adds is a way to search the previously unsearchable XYZ Combine. So good luck summoning ABC-Dragon Buster without Union Hanger's effects.
If the new support has unlocked other ways to get A-to-Z on the board (or at least get XYZ-Dragon Cannon on the board easier) let me know
Valkyrie support when?
So cross cannon is a 1 card combo into hyper dragon, but idk how viable that is.
I can only assume these will just replace the old versions in the Ojama deck. If so then I may have to rebuild them.
Can't make A-to-Z or Armed Dragon guy unfortunately.
@@theimpostorafungus1213 Well that's highly disappointing. Which they straight up counted as the old ones so it would be an easy replacement and actual support for them.
Didn't Chazz also have beetle machine monsters that worked like Xyz monsters cards. I wouldn't have mind getting those rather than upgrades or both
Good to know that my Patreon voted video is now outdated.
Oh well that’s how It goes sometimes.
Also in battle city for some reason XYZ dragon Cannon was treated as three tributes so he tribute it for God.
Pretty sure that’s a reference for the spell
Can't you extra foolish burial the hyper xyz to summon 2 abcs turn 1
"If you like light machine unions" yeah that's me lol, I can see cyber dragon getting some use out of this to
im half expecting a fusion of all the light machine unions at this point.
" XYZVWABC - Crush Core Catapult Cannon Tiger Tank Double Dragon "
I'm wondering if photon delta wing would work well with these
Question:
The new Y head and Z tank can loop themselves as long there's light machine monsters banished?, I mean, SS one to get themselves or other one using like a max 6 card to loop and summon things as long are "light machine" from extra or anything by adding extra normal summon for tributes?, even using monters cards to banish instead sending to grave to keep the loop going?
This could possibly end on bringing multiple CD infinity? And other monsters?
I mean, as long as they are Special summon can fetch something from the banish zone, then the new piece will special summon itself to fetch another thing and I think it's a soft one per turn the self summon while equipped
I activate the quick play spell Enemy Controller. Enter the code, left, right, A, B
You can add Beast king barbaros then tribute all 3 to wipe opt field or have a extra body
seems to me these offer some extra stuff to allow them to be run along side their original counterparts
Can we get VW support like this for Chazz
Been spreading this around since I realized it but:
X equips Y to make Controller which adds Activation. Activation adds Z which Controller summons, letting Z equip Y to make a second Controller. This makes Beatrice. These cards have a 1 card turn skip. X isnt the only one that does it though since Activation also has a line.
Activation add X. Summon X and equip Y to make controller and add Hangar. Hangar add Z. Controller summons Z and Z equips Y to make another Controller.
Thats a total of 9 copies of a 1 card Beatrice line to turn skip with. Can even add more by using a SHS engine if you want but feels like the bricks arent worth it lol.
I also thought of making Beatrice when I saw union controller, bit I didn't think about just making another controller. I was too hyper focused on checking if there were any level 6 main deck monsters with 3k atk (there isn't)
I just finished my ABC deck last week so this is awesome 🤣😂
Honestly I have no idea how these will end up matching with other stuff, I'm just going to make a list with these as it's the only fusion archetype I've ever really enjoyed
I feel like they missed an opportunity to make it an actual XYZ monster. Its right there in the name, and you're already stacking them on top of each other!
Other than that, these look amazing! The new Hyper Dragon Cannon is definitely up to par with ABC. The materials and summoning condition are infinitely less clunky compared to the originals, and the tag-out effect is extremely good - XYZ can't dodge targeting with it like ABC, but you can set up a ton of link materials plus another Fusion Summon
The removal effect is strictly worse than ABC's, and a bit of a side-grade compared to the old XYZ. It's a Quick Effect and can hit spells/traps now, but you can only use it once per opponent's turn instead of an unrestricted number of times on your turn.
This was the first archetype I ever played, I'm so pumped
Kinda sad the Controller doesn't have a equip or steal effect.
I was expecting controller to be a Critias card but still works I guess
Anybody else think about how these would work in an ojama deck?
I must say even if like a lot X-Y-Z i find a bad joke the fact that we didn't had Sartorius Arcana Forces support on this set about LIGHT PLAYERS even if he was the leader of the society of LIGHT only used LIGHT monsters was being controlled by the LIGHT of destruction and 2024 is the 20 anniversary of the series where he appeared
Kinda surprised that they didn't make Dimensional Catapult into a real card. In the original Japanese, that's the STU card (Super Thunder Unit).
You can just banish hyper dragon from the graveyard to get 3 summons. No matter how it got to grave?
I really love these new Cards!
So here in the TCG they will probably get the High Rarity treatment...
The only problem is your ip line is dead now with abc dragon into 4 material apo
I think it would be kinda funny if someone used the GY effect of Union Activation to search Beast King Barbaros 😆
I Need everyone know that Y says From Hand and graveyard not banished they messed up the translation
Let’s goo
Now tell me that the VW cards get the same love and make this perfect.
It’s about dang time. I’ve been saying these need a retrain forever
We don't have all the set spoilers yet, do we? Because we BETTER get Arcana Force. Seriously, Unions almost broke the game less than half a decade ago and now we're getting more of them when I can only remember Arcana Force receiving the one additional anime import, and that something like a year ago?
Nova looking like Guncannon over here. Now I'd like to see a Gundam theme. I know Sky Strikers are mech based
can they make them xyz monsters already please
love watching everyone forget that volcanic has RA suppourt.. lol
also, where is the v/w retrains?? ;-;
JUST RUN A PURE VERSION OF THEM that is all the A card-themed. That combo really freaking well on their own
it's the primary thing I don't like about Yugioh where you can't just play entirely pure archetype like other card game aka buddyfight cardfight vanguard mtg, etc
Come for the golden nova. Stay to watch ABC become outclassed by the OG. XD
Finally Komoney remembered that Kaiba used more monsters than just Blue Eyes
My favorite running joke is people hating the ojamas - how could you hate them?
I want it now
Good lord Obelisk support
Also, this continues to give unauthorized reactivation that much more use
LIGHT MACHINE LIGHT MACHINE LIGHT MACHINE
I think there is no reason why they couldn't put in the cards be treated as the original cards on the field or grave it wouldn't make them op
I'm glad Konami swallowed their pride and now does retains. Look at how much people enjoy them. People had been waiting for that for years.
It's kinda funny that these Xyz retrains are not XYZ extra deck monsters. Damn shame on the missed opportunity
Well, you’re the first person I went to at least
THIS SHIT MEANS SOMETHING TO ME MAN
I SUMMON VWXYZ DRAGON CATAPULT CANNON
Galaxy got a starter haha
Am I the only one that doesn't see hard once per turn restrictions?
Cyber girl retrains CYBER GIRL RETRAINS BEING COMPATIBLE WITH THE ANGELS PLZZZZZ
Yugi I’m the king of games
Kaiba I have the best deck in the world but only when I’m not dueling yugi
Kinda rude not making the card with enemy controller part of the monster not do anything related to enemy controller
Why summon a Blue-eyes, you can summon a GOD!
Obelisk
This is how the Attribute Duelist Packs close, huh. With even more DM pandering. My disappointment is immeasurable.
I think that is kinda lame. Can we just get Different Dimension Hanger, Konami?
I'm disappointed 😞
This guy looks like spoony
Retrains that support the OGs, like most retrains.
"We don't need to play the originals."🤮
In my opinion these are very mediocre and do nothing the Ojama support doesn't do better. Maybe in a dedicated deck it'll be okay but in my Manjoume and my Kaiba decks these are not needed.