Nice breakdown, Luke. M1 is definitely a beast for an entry level chip and I’m with you - Max is overkill for many uses (unless you also do video editing 😀). Thanks for the shoutout too.
No problem!! And thanks for all your content around testing these beasts; it's been super helpful for me in better understanding who these M1 chips are for!
Been considering an upgrade ever since M1 Chips came out, but could never let go of my Macbook Pro 2019 because wasn't sure of the compatibilities of these programs. Thank you for this in depth review that's catered more towards us data science users. Definitely earned a sub from me! Will explore your content more over the weekend 😁
Your professionalism in the comments to people genuinely asking for advice is awesome. Subbed and will be using any reference codes I can to help your channel.
Aw thanks so much for taking the time to notice this! Just trying to help other's as I was just as lost in these topics as well when I started! Thanks for the the kind words!! 🙌🏼
I'm not a data scientist but I use similar programs in finance. Mainly Excel, R, SAS and Matlab. Currently I'm using a windows laptop and I'm thinking of upgrading and getting Dell XPS 13. I liked your emphasis on getting enough RAM, because you are mainly limited by RAM when using large datasets.
@@MrOrbion Heck yeah I also think the Dell XPS 13 is a great choice (it's actually my second computer). In your case I would agree with the desire to get more RAM, thanks for sharing!
Hi, I have a M1 Max Pro and used Parallels. Starting out in Data Analytics almost all the courses asked me to install either SQL Server or MYSQL before Power Bi but both are unsupported on Parallels with the M1 chip. So that was pretty much dead in the water. I reached out to Parallels and they said it’s a Microsoft issue.
Such a great video. I appreciate the breakdown of the software you use for data science... and without any of the narcissistic nonsense you often see with other ‘coder’ UA-camrs.
The mac mini or a laptop with linux is a great option and if you need power just go with a cloud provider. Remember that there are many programs who don’t fully support M1 chips.
I have enrolled myself in 1 year post graduate data science program. Where I have courses like - 1.Programming Refresher 2. Statistics Essentials 3. R Programming for DS 4. Data Science with R 5. Python for DS 6. Data Science with Python 7. Machine Learning (Adv) 8. Tableau Training 9. NLP (Natural Lang Proc) So, for these please suggest me the MacBook with its configuration needed in budget to go for?
My M1 Max has over 57 billion transistors.... and even with this I can say without a doubt you probably accomplish more than me with your whiteboard 😭😭😭
Great video analysis; thanks! But I would add a couple of points. As for M1 machines: the extra money for the 13" Pro over the Air can be justified by: extra screen brightness and extra battery life. Just something to think about. As for the 14" machine: same things: bigger battery and FABULOUS (and meaningfully larger) screen. If you work on battery and your eyes can get tired, then the screen and battery capacity can matter a lot. I also expect support for Metal and the M1 GPUs in general will increase dramatically. There will likely be a dramatic gain in the relative performance of the big GPUs in the Pro and Mac chips. I expect also better support for VMs in general. At that point, while16GB of memory feels good now, remember at one time not long ago, so did 1GB. Just a couple thoughts.
Very much agree with your perspective Brian, thanks for sharing this as you have very valid points for your reasons for the Pro and also M1 Max/Pro Chips. Most my time on my mac is spent with it plugged into power and external displays attached... so maybe not using it fully to it's capability as a "laptop" 🤣 thanks again!
Thanks for the video. I bought my Macbook in early December and was disappointed to see SQL Server not working on my M1. I suppose their new ARM-based machines are not ready yet for every use case. With pain in my heart, I had to return my M1. But I think I'll buy a Macbook; once SQL Server works on it. It's the only piece of software holding me back.
Thanks Bouseux!! I'm a Mac Fan Boy, but when you compare the two in data science, sometimes you just gotta go with the other option of Windows... no matter how much it pains me to say 🤣
I got the M1 Mac Mini (base model) with 8GB of RAM and I feel like even watching UA-cam tutorials with chrome on my other monitor + coding in VS Studio is giving me a little too much lag when I have multiple tabs open. Definitely feeling buyers remorse simply wishing I went with 16 GB of RAM. Thinking of returning or selling it to upgrade to 16GB.
Hi Luke, data scientist here ! Really love your channel. Planning to get a MacBook but I’m wondering about the M2 Air or M2 14 Pro. Which one would you recommend. Is the pro better for virtual machine, R, STATA, Spss etc ?
Thanks for your videos Luke! MacBook Air M1 8g RAM, some difficulties with parallels on power bi for large data set. (I pay for azure virtual machine when I need them to solved this) Everything else is working perfectly. Thinking about the 16g of RAM in the future maybe with a m2 or m1 air
Thanks so much for sharing this. This is a really useful datapoint for me to know as I wasn't sure how parallels performed on the 8gbs of RAM, so thanks for sharing this!
Hey Luke, thanks for this video it really opened my eyes !. My question - do you think the MacBook pro 14" base model is enough to handle day to day data analysis tasks. I'm willing to spend the extra for the screen and ports , but with 2 CPU chips being binned I was curious if it affect performance that much ?
Video I've been waiting for 👍😃 Week ago I bought MacBook Air M1 8GB despite of my need using PBI sometimes. The difference in price between 8GB (on sale) and 16GB is too much… great video!
@@nguachuathuan All depends on tools you're using. Disadvantage of MBA M1 is missing support of Power BI, you need pay extra money for solution (remote desktop, Paralles Desktop etc.), that's annoying. But at the end it's more about your skills than laptop... :-)
Oh wow ! I don't know plenty about hardware but this looks so much better than my 8GB RAM Laptop lool .. Soon will definitely get a similar Windows PC 🤜 ! Thanks for the video Luke
Hey Luke, found your channel about two months ago. I really appreciate your informative content. Thanks to your breakdown, I went ahead and started the Google Analytics Certification Program three weeks ago. I am now on the 8th module, the "capstone." Since I am brand spanking new to this field and looking to switch careers at 51yo😖 I really don't feel that for someone like myself, the cert is going to be enough to land a real job. I am considering forgoing the capstone, for a bootcamp from a university in a neighboring county from where I live. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
I think the capstone is the most valuable part as it gets you into start building projects for your portfolio. Projects are what is going to show employers you have experience. Bootcamps and certificates are great for learning, but thye don't show employers that you can apply the skills. My recommendation is do the capstone and start building up your portfolio.
@@LukeBarousse I really appreciate the response, considering that it was after viewing your video where you interviewed data analysts in reviewing the Google Analytics Cert. that made me start the program to begin with. Thank you.
Hello Luke, Thank you so much for the fabulous, informative and helpful video ever made on UA-cam detailing M1 chips from a perspective of a Data-scientist. But wait I've a question for you. I'm thinking about buying an M1Pro 16 inch base model and use it for machine learning purposes, of course I wanna keep this laptop for a while but I'm afraid buying it then find out that it's not powerful enough to handle machine learning and data science stuff. Well I'm between the hammer and the anvil. (The costs and the needs). I hope you're gonna be able to help me choose and take a final decision. Thank you Luke!
Hello Luke! I don't know if you'll read my comment but I hope you can eventually do a review with with the M2 Mac. Please! 🙏🤞 I'm a content creator (which of course includes video editing, recording my screen and illustration) but also I'm currently learning data analyst skills such as Excel and Python. I've been checking out some of the M2 Mac settings for when I have enough money saved to upgrade my laptop (I'm using a MacBook Pro from Mid 2012, still going strong, it has only failed me once hence why I'm looking for another Mac rather than a PC. I've used 2 Dell PCs and eventually they stopped working properly after a 4 or 5 years of use). What worries me a bit is that I might not be able to find a lot of IOS apps to continue learning about data analysis such as SQL, Macros or Power BI. I'm sorry if my comment seems silly, I'm still a noob when it comes to data analysis 😅. Thank you for uploading your videos, they have been very useful for me to learn new things and maybe eventually have a career change in the future (unfortunately in my country being a digital illustrator sometimes doesn't pay the bills). PS: Does the Parallels license last for only a year like a subscription or it's a lifetime payment?
If I get the M2 i'll review it... but right now I'ms ticking with M1 Max For parallels you can get either. With subscription it updates with new updates... for lifetime payment it doesn't get updated
I found your video review by chance and my immediate reaction, as someone who frequently needs to do substantial data processing using Excel (and is beyond frustrated with Windows laptop performance), was "at last !". Trouble is, the Excel section of your review was (paraphrasing) 'pretty good, but use a Windows machine is you need some specific functionality'. This tells me almost nothing about the capabilities and relative performance of an M1 Max/Pro, either versus Windows machines, or versus the standard M1 chips. With Excel having such a huge user base I thought you'd cover the performance of this software in far more detail.
Hey Luke, would you recommend upgrading the storage to 512GB of Macbook Air M1 instead of the RAM? Or just stay for the Base Model? The 16GB version is not available in my country.
I’m thinking of changing careers so I plan to learn to code and do some data analytics courses. This just sold me on the MacBook Air 😃I thought I needed a big powerful machine to handle these things so I’m definitely gonna get the MBA 16GB. Still not sure if to get a 1TB tho
Dude so glad I could help, MBA is such a great value. One not on storage, you can always get external storage later... plus Apple charges a hefty price for internal storage. For data analytics I think 256 and even 512 is fine
Hey Luke. Thanks for the awesome video. And I am glad you are still answering comments. I have a question. I will be starting an MS CS degree this fall, and have to choose between M1 Pro 14 inch base with 32 gigs of ram, or Asus Scar with 32 gigs or Ram and 3070 with i9. I want to specialise in Machine Learning. The reason I am leaning towards Mac is battery life and efficiency. Will definitely want your opinion on this.
I would recommend the Mac... but then again I'm a Mac fan boy... ha. On a serious note, I think it's possible to use the Mac. Additionally since a lot of ML learning is not being done on the cloud I don't think you'd have a software compatibility issue. Is it possible to reach out to some one at the school to determine if you'll have any issues... I have heard from others in the comments that have used a Mac with no issues for CS degrees, so I think you should be good.
@yash shah hello mate, I hope you are doing well. I am a fall 23 MS in CS (at US) aspirant. I also am inclined towards the ML and Data Science domains. How has been your experience with the M1 Pro MacBook Pro? Is M1 Pro an overkill for the day to day ML tasks? Also how has been the battery life? (Although I am prescient that its gonna be amazing) Also lastly, what university are you pursuing your MS in CS? Thank you!
So I have Apple Mac air M1 chip and I am totally beginner in switching to data analytics career.Most of tools I’ll need to learn skills I could run on Mac,but how about sql ? What is alternative because I guess sql is essentially important in data analyst path.
I made a whole video on SQL and talk about this more in-depth there; but overall I think Mac is fine for SQL as Mac supports most all of the major databases. So you are good
hey Luke. I’m going to study major of Data Analysis and now I’m don’t know how to choose suitable laptop. Could you suggest me for some ideas ? ( i’m international student, sorry if my wrong of grammar )
Correct me if I am wrong. When I use data studio on my MacBook Air, it definitely uses computing power from my machine. The fans kick on and slows down a bit. I am using a pre M1 MacBook Air.
I don't think you're wrong. Browswers (Like google chrome) can take up a lot of CPU and Memory based on their tasks and Data Studio is a big user of resources. I haven't heard my fans cut on my M1 Macbook pro 13" when doing intense tasks for GDS... for what it's worth.
Thank you for your clear and understandable video. This is exactly what I was looking for. Currently I started my job as a data scientist/analyst, and I am considering to get M1 Pro 14 base model w 1TB. What I'm wondering now is if I would ever need to upgrade memory to 32gb. Do you think either 32gb memory or advanced cpu and gpu option is worthy enough to spend about $400 as a rookie in data science? bcs this option isn't cheap at all it's so hard to choose;)
I worked on a 16gb all last year (doing video editing.. multiple data softwares.. tons of chrome tabs) and I thought it handled my workload just fine. If money is an issue just go with the 16gb, you won't be disappointed.
Hi! What do you think about the base model of Macbook Pro M2 peformance in regards with your data science acitivites (phyton, excel, tableu, dll) considering slower SSD than M1?
Hi Luke, Honestly love your content! Great detail and explained in a simple but effective way. luke I have one question is next year 2022 my joining my Master program in Business analysis. my question is I'm debating between Mac or Windows laptop do you suggest? I'm so confused right now can you help me out ??
If you're having doubts and are unsure if Mac will support the applications you need for your master's programs, then I'd just go with a Windows machine. You won't have to worry about about compatibility issues with Windows as most analytical apps are made for Windows so its a safer route.
just giving my 2 cents. i’m in MSBA and everyone uses macs. sharing code/troubleshooting/etc is so much easier when everyone in your group has the same OS. I actually had issues running R code in RStudio on windows (probably my fault but I just switch back to mac) Although, i did take advantage of my grad schools “free laptop for a year” just so I could run MS Sql Management Server on a Windows laptop
@@speedyg123. Thanks for sharing this Juke. This is very interesting to hear of everyone using Macs! Also very much agree with making it easier when everybody is on the same OS!
Data analyst will work fine on MacBook? Aaaa i still confuse 😂 worry if i make mistakes. There’s python, sql, java, html etc etc Thank you for sharing this video.
Hii ! I need to buy a computer. I am certain I will get a MacBook. I am a little confused with al the options. What’s is the difference between M1 and M2 chips? How much GPU do I need? I am a data scientist, I don’t use much deep learning models, I do do a lot of gridsearch and xgboosts and etc. is there any recommendation?
Are you referring to battery life? Overall I can spend pretty much all day on it unplugged and have no issues until the end of day when my work day is complete.
@@LukeBarousse thanks. please one last question if you don't mind, will allocating 16gb for power bi be enough to work on for relatively large data sets or should i buy the 64gb version and allocate 32gb instead?
TBH... not much.. windows is superior for data science from what I've seen. More info here where I compare a mac to windows: ua-cam.com/video/YZkcEtWgMGw/v-deo.html
Hey i have a doubt, i am doing ai and ml major and for that I would be requiring laptop with good graphics. So is gaming laptop(windows) worth it or a macbook good?
Hey Luke, how long have you been running window on your Mac Pro M1, because I wonder if using window on Mac for many years, it might slows down the mac performance, and making the Mac a bit laggy because I don’t want to harm my MacBook Pro for the long term usage
@@LukeBarousse hey lukes, thanks for replying I just got a new MacBook Pro 13 and after reading your reply I’m happy now. I’ll be using parallels soon since you mentioned it’s okay
To sum up the processor is not so essential, I am thinking to buy the basic 14inch MacBook Pro M1 pro, do you recommend me to upgrade at least the ram ?
Really nice vid! Wonder if the M1Max chip can be used to do some ML work. I would say myself being a not-so-new beginner in ML(my workflow is demanding such that my current 2017 MacBook Air cannot cope anymore). However, imma still a student living in dorm and doing work in library so need a “real laptop”, not those 300watt PC fake laptops that die in like 30min without charging. Would you recommend M1Max for both its power and efficiency?
Hi Luke, Thank you for your detailed video. I have one question regarding the new Macbook M2 pro: I'm thinking of learning code to switch my career as a data analyst (or data scientist) asap. Do you think 16GB RAM on Macbook pro will serve well? I read some articles saying that data scientists should get 32GB RAM or more. But you know, Apple RAM is super pricey.
Hey. Im confused b/w M1 and M1 pro I'll mostly use it for data analytics I'm an epidemiologist i Dont know if there will be difference of speed b/w m1 and m1 pro if its in seconds i dont think m1 pro is worth it again I want a large screen so im totally confused.
I found your video while looking for a laptop for college as I will be majoring in Data Science. Do you think a MacBook Air 16 RAM/1 TB will be enough or should I get a base model MacBook Pro 14? Or should I wait for the M2 Air?
Thx for this video. I am thinking of using any M1 device (Mac Mini or a Notebook) in order to use Windows 11 with Parallels. I tried it on a MacBook Air with 8GB RAM - it was not to use at all. My question: Do you think, with 16 GB it will work properly? And as I am working with Power Query and Power BI - are there any problems/limitations compare to a native Windows Computer?
Yeah the macbook pro (13") that I showed in this video had 16GB of unified memory and like I mentioned it is pretty good at handling windows 11 with parallels.
@@LukeBarousse im actually trying to start studying for data sceince for my master so I kindda want to know how it will work as a data science student is 16gb(M1 pro) ram enought for the study and work or I need to change the conifg in the future
Luke, I'm deciding to buy a new laptop. I'm starting my degree on Businessman manegement and Data Science Student. So taking macbook pro M1 affect in any aspect?
Thanks for this detailed video Luke. I'll like to know if Microsft SQL server works well with Parallels 17 using M1 chip. I currently use a Macbook Pro 2020 M1.
How much of a hassle are VMs on the MBP? I’m headed into a double major in Engineering and Business management and since I will be spending a lot of time behind the screen I want something with as little resistance as possible. There will be windows only software, but likely nothing that takes a really huge toll on the computer. Do you think a MBP 14 with 16/512 GB will suit me?
I don't find too much of a hassle... I mean it's not a native Mac app, so it's not a perfect experience but it works. If I had to work with a bunch of Windows apps I'd go with a Windows machine. Luckily I only need a few so I go with the mac and it handles fine
I am going to start my data analyst internship, my works will mostly be cleaning data, visualization and considering of doing some machine learning. Do you think will the Macbook Air M2 with 16gb of RAM be enough for me?
@@LukeBarousse Thank you. Do you think if I work with the M2 Macbook Air, will it have any heat issues? I am also considering the M2 Macbook Pro 13 inches because of the fan. I am a student so I do not have a budget to spend on the 14 inches Macbook Pro model
Thanks for your detailed video. I have a question. Between Macbook pro 13 2020 with max option and Macbook pro 14 2021 (base), which is better in terms of price and performance? Yeah, my goal is for Machine Learning/Deep Learning. Thanks once again.
Found exactly the video that I was looking for. Explained to the point covered everything that i hoped for being a Data Analyst. Thanks for the video. I think I'll go with M1 13inch pro. Thats more than enough. No point in getting m1 pro and max
@@LukeBarousse hi, I had one more question. The 16gb ram version has been discontinued in India for 13inch. So will 8gb ram be suffice. It will be great if you could help me with this
Hi Luke, I'm planning to get a macbook but I'm still confused if to get 13" M1 or 14"M1Pro. I'm using VSC, VS, MqSQL, MOngoDB, Adobe XD, premier, illustrator, photoshop and some jetbrains like webstorm. Would you recommend M1 to handle all these stuff? I'm a budget conscious and M1Pro is bit stiff for me. I appreciate your thoughts and recommendation. Thanks!
Can I use windows most of the time on the base M1 Air 8GB for beginner development/data analytics through Parallels without any issues as if it's simply a windows laptop?
hello luke thanks for nice video Right now I'm planning to buy MacBook but I confused between MacBook air 16gb ram and 512 gb or MacBook pro 14 base model which is good for data science and machine?
From what I'm hearing the M2's won't be out until this same time next year based on other product releases. I understand the need for upgrade but these M1's are already evolved and fast enough IMO. Just my two cents on the matter (Mainly because I think that M1 Mac Air at $899 on Amazon is gonna be the best deal for a year or so)
Were you able to get Windows 10 working under Parallels for the M1 Pro or M1 Max systems? I am under the impression you have to use Windows 11 to work under Parallels on these chips.
@@LukeBarousse I bought the 2021 16" MacBook Pro M1 Max and tried to do a Time Machine install from a 2018 15" MacBook Pro. On my 2018 MBP I had Windows 10 running under Parallels. After the Transfer was complete, I had to sign in and activate on the 2021 MBP M1 Max . Parallels on the 2021 M1 Max would only allow for a Windows 11 install. I had Windows 10 on the 2018 MBP but Windows 11 on the 2021 MBP. What did you do to install the Windows 10 on the 2021 MBP?
@@beachliving3127 Ohh sorry I misunderstood. No I never had Windows 10 installed on my 2021 14" MBP (only my 2020 13" MBP). Is there a reason you need Windows 10 over Windows 11?
@@LukeBarousse My master plan was to get rid of my home based 2009 27” iMac and upgrade my business based 2018 MacBook Pro to the 2021 MacBook Pro M1 Max. My home computer is a 2009 27” IMac that is REALLY SLOW and can’t run current software (QB for taxes is one example).. On the 2018 MacBook Pro I am running Windows 10 under Parallels because certain programs only work on Windows. The new 2021 MacBook Pro 16” M1 Max would combine both my personal and business needs. The other computers in the business are PC compatibles running Windows 10 as well. As the new owner, I can do what I want and will move to a Mac based system. I bought a MacBook Pro 2018 to run windows 10 under Parallels for my needs. At this time Windows 10 is working well on all of the other machines and these machines will be retired as they age. The plan was to use my 2021 MacBook Pro as the last one to use any Windows 10 applications. When I used Time Machine to put the 2018 MacBook Pro contents on the 2021 MacBook Pro M1 Max I found Window 10 would not work only Windows 11. I don’t think it is wise to spend a bunch of time working on Windows 11 since I will get rid of all the other machines running windows 10 in a of year or so.
Hi Luke, thanks for this content! Exactly what I was looking for! Just a question regarding data processing with Pandas. I have large files that need to be imported and processed (6-7GB .txt files) with a lot of numpy and was wondering if you have done any tests on this and which one I should consider - the Apple Macbook 16 with Pro chip, 16GB RAM or the Max chip with 32GB?
I've done some pretty sizeable text files as well ( a few GBs) and I did the processing on both the M1 with 16 GB of memory and M1 Max with 64 GB of memory. Honestly, I didn't notice much of the difference. I would just say at a a minimum get the 16.
Hello Luke. I want to buy an M1 macbook 14 and use parallels to run power BI. Do you think allocating 16gb ram to the windows side will be enough to analyse large data sets on Power BI? Thanks
Does anyone have experience on fine tuning LLMs on M1 Pro/Max ? And also just running inference on large models, does that work well? Thanks great video btw
Finally a review that doesn’t only go over editing software
🤣 I wanted to include this but held my tongue..
lol
I know, people buy macs to do videos about macs and then edit them on macs so they know how good are macs.
@@2dollarkevin lol that's a full circle. But editors & "creative" folks often overpay af
A tech reviewer that doesn’t only do Lightroom, photoshop and final cut reviews? You earned my subscribe!
Ha! Gotta test the real tools for us data nerds! Thanks for the sub!
We have come a full circle Luke, this was the first ever video which got me hooked to this channel, 106k subscribers, here we are 🔥
😂 I thought that as I published this video of how, holy smokes this is what I publishing last year with
Nice breakdown, Luke. M1 is definitely a beast for an entry level chip and I’m with you - Max is overkill for many uses (unless you also do video editing 😀). Thanks for the shoutout too.
No problem!! And thanks for all your content around testing these beasts; it's been super helpful for me in better understanding who these M1 chips are for!
Been considering an upgrade ever since M1 Chips came out, but could never let go of my Macbook Pro 2019 because wasn't sure of the compatibilities of these programs. Thank you for this in depth review that's catered more towards us data science users. Definitely earned a sub from me! Will explore your content more over the weekend 😁
Your professionalism in the comments to people genuinely asking for advice is awesome. Subbed and will be using any reference codes I can to help your channel.
Aw thanks so much for taking the time to notice this! Just trying to help other's as I was just as lost in these topics as well when I started!
Thanks for the the kind words!! 🙌🏼
That Air is fantastic, except for 1 crucial thing: only 1 external screen can be added, even with thunderbolt.
I managed to add two. Using an iPad with sidecar and an external display plugged in via the usb port.
Data Nerds! What computer are you using for data science?!
BTW: Doesn't have to be a mac!!
Using a surface book with an arm chip. A company's choice.
I'm not a data scientist but I use similar programs in finance. Mainly Excel, R, SAS and Matlab. Currently I'm using a windows laptop and I'm thinking of upgrading and getting Dell XPS 13. I liked your emphasis on getting enough RAM, because you are mainly limited by RAM when using large datasets.
@@MrOrbion Heck yeah I also think the Dell XPS 13 is a great choice (it's actually my second computer). In your case I would agree with the desire to get more RAM, thanks for sharing!
@@bouseuxlatache4140 I feel your pain Bouseux!
@@LukeBarousse thanks Luke. it's not easy every day ;)
Hi, I have a M1 Max Pro and used Parallels. Starting out in Data Analytics almost all the courses asked me to install either SQL Server or MYSQL before Power Bi but both are unsupported on Parallels with the M1 chip. So that was pretty much dead in the water. I reached out to Parallels and they said it’s a Microsoft issue.
Such a great video. I appreciate the breakdown of the software you use for data science... and without any of the narcissistic nonsense you often see with other ‘coder’ UA-camrs.
Ha! I try to keep it short and simple, thanks for noticing this Jane!
The mac mini or a laptop with linux is a great option and if you need power just go with a cloud provider. Remember that there are many programs who don’t fully support M1 chips.
This is a great recommendation, thanks for this!! 🙌🏼
What if I switch to macos tov linux via virtualization, can I down those app?
I have enrolled myself in 1 year post graduate data science program. Where I have courses like -
1.Programming Refresher
2. Statistics Essentials
3. R Programming for DS
4. Data Science with R
5. Python for DS
6. Data Science with Python
7. Machine Learning (Adv)
8. Tableau Training
9. NLP (Natural Lang Proc)
So, for these please suggest me the MacBook with its configuration needed in budget to go for?
Christmas has come early!!! Thanks Luke! Been looking forward to these videos since these bad buys dropped!
Heck yeah!! Sorry took so long to drop, took over a month to get thie M1 Max! Thanks for watching!
Wow sometimes I just use my whiteboard and sit on the floor 😳
My M1 Max has over 57 billion transistors.... and even with this I can say without a doubt you probably accomplish more than me with your whiteboard 😭😭😭
Great video analysis; thanks! But I would add a couple of points. As for M1 machines: the extra money for the 13" Pro over the Air can be justified by: extra screen brightness and extra battery life. Just something to think about. As for the 14" machine: same things: bigger battery and FABULOUS (and meaningfully larger) screen. If you work on battery and your eyes can get tired, then the screen and battery capacity can matter a lot. I also expect support for Metal and the M1 GPUs in general will increase dramatically. There will likely be a dramatic gain in the relative performance of the big GPUs in the Pro and Mac chips. I expect also better support for VMs in general. At that point, while16GB of memory feels good now, remember at one time not long ago, so did 1GB. Just a couple thoughts.
Very much agree with your perspective Brian, thanks for sharing this as you have very valid points for your reasons for the Pro and also M1 Max/Pro Chips. Most my time on my mac is spent with it plugged into power and external displays attached... so maybe not using it fully to it's capability as a "laptop" 🤣 thanks again!
I agree also the 14th is an investment for a long term, I feel soon or later Apple will kill intel macs
Thanks for the video. I bought my Macbook in early December and was disappointed to see SQL Server not working on my M1. I suppose their new ARM-based machines are not ready yet for every use case. With pain in my heart, I had to return my M1. But I think I'll buy a Macbook; once SQL Server works on it. It's the only piece of software holding me back.
Yeah, I was a little discouraged to find that out about SQL server as well. Hopefully they will have a resolution eventually
you really gave info i haven't heard so far. "the M1 chip is enough and in the case of intense virtual machine usage move to windows". thumbs up Luke!
Thanks Bouseux!! I'm a Mac Fan Boy, but when you compare the two in data science, sometimes you just gotta go with the other option of Windows... no matter how much it pains me to say 🤣
I got the M1 Mac Mini (base model) with 8GB of RAM and I feel like even watching UA-cam tutorials with chrome on my other monitor + coding in VS Studio is giving me a little too much lag when I have multiple tabs open. Definitely feeling buyers remorse simply wishing I went with 16 GB of RAM. Thinking of returning or selling it to upgrade to 16GB.
Yeah, the 16gb is def a safe choice, but 8gb can work. Sorry to hear this
Hi Luke, data scientist here ! Really love your channel. Planning to get a MacBook but I’m wondering about the M2 Air or M2 14 Pro. Which one would you recommend. Is the pro better for virtual machine, R, STATA, Spss etc ?
This is awesome bro thanks for making this channel so useful
No problem at all, glad you found it useful!!
"and Exel when my boss forces me to" 😂
And he forces me A LOT!!
That M1 Max looks pretty hefty! Great video! Do you think the MacBook Air is enough for what I need?
Heck yeah I do, for what you do I think the MacBook Air is more than enough! I think 8 GBs of memory should be good, but consider getting the 16 gb
Thanks for your videos Luke! MacBook Air M1 8g RAM, some difficulties with parallels on power bi for large data set. (I pay for azure virtual machine when I need them to solved this) Everything else is working perfectly. Thinking about the 16g of RAM in the future maybe with a m2 or m1 air
Thanks so much for sharing this. This is a really useful datapoint for me to know as I wasn't sure how parallels performed on the 8gbs of RAM, so thanks for sharing this!
Very useful with attention to data science vs. creator use cases.
Hey Luke, thanks for this video it really opened my eyes !. My question - do you think the MacBook pro 14" base model is enough to handle day to day data analysis tasks. I'm willing to spend the extra for the screen and ports , but with 2 CPU chips being binned I was curious if it affect performance that much ?
Yeah if the M1 can handle my tasks then I think an M1 Pro would handle them as well.
@@LukeBarousse thanks!
Video I've been waiting for 👍😃 Week ago I bought MacBook Air M1 8GB despite of my need using PBI sometimes. The difference in price between 8GB (on sale) and 16GB is too much… great video!
Yeah that Macbook Air at 8GB is a heck of a deal, I think you made a good choice!
You helped me with the decision thanks to your previous great videos 😉👍 I’m surprised by the power of M1 in small Air…
@@automanie I'm suprised by it too! To crazy how that little computer has such a big punch
@@nguachuathuan All depends on tools you're using. Disadvantage of MBA M1 is missing support of Power BI, you need pay extra money for solution (remote desktop, Paralles Desktop etc.), that's annoying. But at the end it's more about your skills than laptop... :-)
Oh wow ! I don't know plenty about hardware but this looks so much better than my 8GB RAM Laptop lool .. Soon will definitely get a similar Windows PC 🤜 ! Thanks for the video Luke
Ha! Thanks Ibraheem, actually depending on the use case your 8GB Laptop, it may be more than enough, so I wouldn't worry! Thanks for watching!!
Hey Luke, found your channel about two months ago. I really appreciate your informative content. Thanks to your breakdown, I went ahead and started the Google Analytics Certification Program three weeks ago. I am now on the 8th module, the "capstone." Since I am brand spanking new to this field and looking to switch careers at 51yo😖 I really don't feel that for someone like myself, the cert is going to be enough to land a real job. I am considering forgoing the capstone, for a bootcamp from a university in a neighboring county from where I live. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
I think the capstone is the most valuable part as it gets you into start building projects for your portfolio. Projects are what is going to show employers you have experience. Bootcamps and certificates are great for learning, but thye don't show employers that you can apply the skills. My recommendation is do the capstone and start building up your portfolio.
@@LukeBarousse I really appreciate the response, considering that it was after viewing your video where you interviewed data analysts in reviewing the Google Analytics Cert. that made me start the program to begin with. Thank you.
@@luisf7105 No problem at all, so glad to hear that I was able to help you start the cert. Good luck with it you got this!
Awesome video with details and that also in a gist. All my queries got answered. Thanks a lot.
Got a new Macbook Pro 14 base model to start studying data analytics, picking up tomorrow, can’t wait !
Nice! I love my 14" Macbook!
Hello Luke,
Thank you so much for the fabulous, informative and helpful video ever made on UA-cam detailing M1 chips from a perspective of a Data-scientist.
But wait I've a question for you. I'm thinking about buying an M1Pro 16 inch base model and use it for machine learning purposes, of course I wanna keep this laptop for a while but I'm afraid buying it then find out that it's not powerful enough to handle machine learning and data science stuff. Well I'm between the hammer and the anvil. (The costs and the needs).
I hope you're gonna be able to help me choose and take a final decision.
Thank you Luke!
I think your fine, plus as I mention in the video, most hard core ML is done in the cloud anyway and you just remote into it with your mac
@@LukeBarousse Thank you so much Luke you saved a lot of money 😊
I still using my 2015 Macbook Pro to learn Python by using Pycharm. Sometime laggy but it get the job done. lol
Thanks for the great video! Would be cool to see another day-in-the-life video as well!
this is good to know! I'll see what I can do on that!
Hello Luke! I don't know if you'll read my comment but I hope you can eventually do a review with with the M2 Mac. Please! 🙏🤞
I'm a content creator (which of course includes video editing, recording my screen and illustration) but also I'm currently learning data analyst skills such as Excel and Python.
I've been checking out some of the M2 Mac settings for when I have enough money saved to upgrade my laptop (I'm using a MacBook Pro from Mid 2012, still going strong, it has only failed me once hence why I'm looking for another Mac rather than a PC. I've used 2 Dell PCs and eventually they stopped working properly after a 4 or 5 years of use).
What worries me a bit is that I might not be able to find a lot of IOS apps to continue learning about data analysis such as SQL, Macros or Power BI. I'm sorry if my comment seems silly, I'm still a noob when it comes to data analysis 😅.
Thank you for uploading your videos, they have been very useful for me to learn new things and maybe eventually have a career change in the future (unfortunately in my country being a digital illustrator sometimes doesn't pay the bills).
PS: Does the Parallels license last for only a year like a subscription or it's a lifetime payment?
If I get the M2 i'll review it... but right now I'ms ticking with M1 Max
For parallels you can get either. With subscription it updates with new updates... for lifetime payment it doesn't get updated
I found your video review by chance and my immediate reaction, as someone who frequently needs to do substantial data processing using Excel (and is beyond frustrated with Windows laptop performance), was "at last !". Trouble is, the Excel section of your review was (paraphrasing) 'pretty good, but use a Windows machine is you need some specific functionality'. This tells me almost nothing about the capabilities and relative performance of an M1 Max/Pro, either versus Windows machines, or versus the standard M1 chips. With Excel having such a huge user base I thought you'd cover the performance of this software in far more detail.
ha! I made a previous video that I actually go into a little more detail on Excel's functionality: ua-cam.com/video/YZkcEtWgMGw/v-deo.html
Hey Luke, would you recommend upgrading the storage to 512GB of Macbook Air M1 instead of the RAM? Or just stay for the Base Model? The 16GB version is not available in my country.
you can always attach external storage later, you can't add memory; so I typically recommend adding memory first (and then storage as needed)
Well played 15:55
😂 Glad someone noticed it!
Exactly the video I was looking for!
Heck yeah, glad I could help Andrew!
Excellent video! Covered everything nicely.
Heck yeah, thanks for watching!!
Would installing a parallel on an android phone help me to avoid Microsoft office 365 subscription ? What would you recommend ?
Great breakdown. Sadly all the mac book pros are out of stock for like the next two to three weeks...
It took me over a month to get mine 😭
I’m thinking of changing careers so I plan to learn to code and do some data analytics courses. This just sold me on the MacBook Air 😃I thought I needed a big powerful machine to handle these things so I’m definitely gonna get the MBA 16GB. Still not sure if to get a 1TB tho
Dude so glad I could help, MBA is such a great value.
One not on storage, you can always get external storage later... plus Apple charges a hefty price for internal storage. For data analytics I think 256 and even 512 is fine
Hey Luke. Thanks for the awesome video. And I am glad you are still answering comments. I have a question. I will be starting an MS CS degree this fall, and have to choose between M1 Pro 14 inch base with 32 gigs of ram, or Asus Scar with 32 gigs or Ram and 3070 with i9. I want to specialise in Machine Learning. The reason I am leaning towards Mac is battery life and efficiency. Will definitely want your opinion on this.
I would recommend the Mac... but then again I'm a Mac fan boy... ha. On a serious note, I think it's possible to use the Mac. Additionally since a lot of ML learning is not being done on the cloud I don't think you'd have a software compatibility issue. Is it possible to reach out to some one at the school to determine if you'll have any issues... I have heard from others in the comments that have used a Mac with no issues for CS degrees, so I think you should be good.
@yash shah hello mate, I hope you are doing well. I am a fall 23 MS in CS (at US) aspirant. I also am inclined towards the ML and Data Science domains. How has been your experience with the M1 Pro MacBook Pro? Is M1 Pro an overkill for the day to day ML tasks? Also how has been the battery life? (Although I am prescient that its gonna be amazing)
Also lastly, what university are you pursuing your MS in CS?
Thank you!
this was exactly what i was looking for
Why we will take tension when Windows is another option?😅 (For Data Analysis)
Problem is you can’t install sql express on parallels on the M1 Max on.MacBook pro
So I have Apple Mac air M1 chip and I am totally beginner in switching to data analytics career.Most of tools I’ll need to learn skills I could run on Mac,but how about sql ?
What is alternative because I guess sql is essentially important in data analyst path.
I made a whole video on SQL and talk about this more in-depth there; but overall I think Mac is fine for SQL as Mac supports most all of the major databases. So you are good
hey Luke. I’m going to study major of Data Analysis and now I’m don’t know how to choose suitable laptop. Could you suggest me for some ideas ? ( i’m international student, sorry if my wrong of grammar )
Correct me if I am wrong. When I use data studio on my MacBook Air, it definitely uses computing power from my machine. The fans kick on and slows down a bit. I am using a pre M1 MacBook Air.
I don't think you're wrong. Browswers (Like google chrome) can take up a lot of CPU and Memory based on their tasks and Data Studio is a big user of resources. I haven't heard my fans cut on my M1 Macbook pro 13" when doing intense tasks for GDS... for what it's worth.
@@LukeBarousse Thank you for the reply! Great content.
@@LukeBarousse if I go outside and run window on my Mac Pro a lot, do you think the fan worth it?
Thank you for your clear and understandable video. This is exactly what I was looking for. Currently I started my job as a data scientist/analyst, and I am considering to get M1 Pro 14 base model w 1TB. What I'm wondering now is if I would ever need to upgrade memory to 32gb. Do you think either 32gb memory or advanced cpu and gpu option is worthy enough to spend about $400 as a rookie in data science? bcs this option isn't cheap at all it's so hard to choose;)
I worked on a 16gb all last year (doing video editing.. multiple data softwares.. tons of chrome tabs) and I thought it handled my workload just fine. If money is an issue just go with the 16gb, you won't be disappointed.
Hi! What do you think about the base model of Macbook Pro M2 peformance in regards with your data science acitivites (phyton, excel, tableu, dll) considering slower SSD than M1?
Hi Luke, Honestly love your content! Great detail and explained in a simple but effective way. luke I have one question is next year 2022 my joining my Master program in Business analysis. my question is I'm debating between Mac or Windows laptop do you suggest? I'm so confused right now can you help me out ??
If you're having doubts and are unsure if Mac will support the applications you need for your master's programs, then I'd just go with a Windows machine. You won't have to worry about about compatibility issues with Windows as most analytical apps are made for Windows so its a safer route.
@@LukeBarousse Thank you so much Luke you're the best!! and any suggestions for a windows laptops under $2000.
@@aakashgohil859 I have the Dell XPS 13" feel like this computer is the perfect option for those in data science
just giving my 2 cents. i’m in MSBA and everyone uses macs. sharing code/troubleshooting/etc is so much easier when everyone in your group has the same OS. I actually had issues running R code in RStudio on windows (probably my fault but I just switch back to mac)
Although, i did take advantage of my grad schools “free laptop for a year” just so I could run MS Sql Management Server on a Windows laptop
@@speedyg123. Thanks for sharing this Juke. This is very interesting to hear of everyone using Macs! Also very much agree with making it easier when everybody is on the same OS!
Data analyst will work fine on MacBook?
Aaaa i still confuse 😂 worry if i make mistakes.
There’s python, sql, java, html etc etc
Thank you for sharing this video.
Bought a base 16-inch. Thought about 32 GBs if RAM, but it's quite costy =/
Yeah these M1 Max and Pros are quite expesnive. BUT it is nice to see how affordable the M1's are 🙌🏼
What I was looking for. Perfect. You got a sub.
Heck yeah!! 🙌🏼
I was waiting on this video!
😜 Same!! Well I was waiting over a month for this Macbook to arrive TBH
Hii ! I need to buy a computer. I am certain I will get a MacBook. I am a little confused with al the options. What’s is the difference between M1 and M2 chips? How much GPU do I need? I am a data scientist, I don’t use much deep learning models, I do do a lot of gridsearch and xgboosts and etc. is there any recommendation?
Very valuable 💯
Glad it was helpful, Sandun!
Hello Luke. Please how many hours of use do you get from your laptop (m1 max 14) approximately?
Are you referring to battery life?
Overall I can spend pretty much all day on it unplugged and have no issues until the end of day when my work day is complete.
@@LukeBarousse thanks. please one last question if you don't mind, will allocating 16gb for power bi be enough to work on for relatively large data sets or should i buy the 64gb version and allocate 32gb instead?
@@dareemmanuel6079 I think the 16 gb will be more than enough.
is using VirtualBox to emulate Win10 is a good option ?
I don’t have much experience with virtualbox, sorry
what advantage does macos have over windows for data science?
TBH... not much.. windows is superior for data science from what I've seen. More info here where I compare a mac to windows:
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This video is just perfect, it clarified many of my doubts, thank you so much :)
You're very welcome, Felipe!
Hey i have a doubt, i am doing ai and ml major and for that I would be requiring laptop with good graphics. So is gaming laptop(windows) worth it or a macbook good?
Hey Luke, how long have you been running window on your Mac Pro M1, because I wonder if using window on Mac for many years, it might slows down the mac performance, and making the Mac a bit laggy because I don’t want to harm my MacBook Pro for the long term usage
I've been running Windows on a Mac for over a year now and haven't noticed any issues. I haven't really heard this as an issue
@@LukeBarousse hey lukes, thanks for replying I just got a new MacBook Pro 13 and after reading your reply I’m happy now. I’ll be using parallels soon since you mentioned it’s okay
To sum up the processor is not so essential, I am thinking to buy the basic 14inch MacBook Pro M1 pro, do you recommend me to upgrade at least the ram ?
For most data science tasks, I think 16gb should be enough
Very cool breakdown! 🛠
Thanks my dude, just watched your recent video and loved it! Keep up the content
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@@LukeBarousse Thanks for the plug! 😊😂 Really kind words, much appreciated:)
Really nice vid! Wonder if the M1Max chip can be used to do some ML work. I would say myself being a not-so-new beginner in ML(my workflow is demanding such that my current 2017 MacBook Air cannot cope anymore). However, imma still a student living in dorm and doing work in library so need a “real laptop”, not those 300watt PC fake laptops that die in like 30min without charging. Would you recommend M1Max for both its power and efficiency?
Yeah it's a pretty powerful machine and lasts me all day on a charge
Hi Luke,
Thank you for your detailed video. I have one question regarding the new Macbook M2 pro: I'm thinking of learning code to switch my career as a data analyst (or data scientist) asap. Do you think 16GB RAM on Macbook pro will serve well? I read some articles saying that data scientists should get 32GB RAM or more. But you know, Apple RAM is super pricey.
I think 16gb is more than enough to start for coding
Did you manage to get the airflow containers up and running? I’m running into a SCRAM authentication issue with Postgres
Yeah I had no issues running them in containers on my mac
Hey. Im confused b/w M1 and M1 pro
I'll mostly use it for data analytics
I'm an epidemiologist i Dont know if there will be difference of speed b/w m1 and m1 pro if its in seconds i dont think m1 pro is worth it again I want a large screen so im totally confused.
I think M1 is good enough
I found your video while looking for a laptop for college as I will be majoring in Data Science. Do you think a MacBook Air 16 RAM/1 TB will be enough or should I get a base model MacBook Pro 14? Or should I wait for the M2 Air?
I'd still go with the recommendation in my video
Thx for this video. I am thinking of using any M1 device (Mac Mini or a Notebook) in order to use Windows 11 with Parallels. I tried it on a MacBook Air with 8GB RAM - it was not to use at all. My question: Do you think, with 16 GB it will work properly? And as I am working with Power Query and Power BI - are there any problems/limitations compare to a native Windows Computer?
Yeah the macbook pro (13") that I showed in this video had 16GB of unified memory and like I mentioned it is pretty good at handling windows 11 with parallels.
Great video thanks!
Glad you liked it Navid!
@@LukeBarousse im actually trying to start studying for data sceince for my master so I kindda want to know how it will work as a data science student is 16gb(M1 pro) ram enought for the study and work or I need to change the conifg in the future
@@navidabasi I think that's enough of a computer (M1 Pro with 16gb) for data science studies.
Luke, I'm deciding to buy a new laptop. I'm starting my degree on Businessman manegement and Data Science Student. So taking macbook pro M1 affect in any aspect?
yeah if you want to get an mac then my money is on the M1 Macbook Air for most people... even data science students.
Thanks for this detailed video Luke. I'll like to know if Microsft SQL server works well with Parallels 17 using M1 chip. I currently use a Macbook Pro 2020 M1.
Unfortuantely not through Parallels. You can host it via a container using Docker, but it won't have the GUI of SQL server.
This video could cost some bucks if this was a PC magazine. Thanks Luke!!
😜 Thanks for this JohnPaul; makes me feel like the extra time I spent on editing was worth it!
Hii .. wonderful content 😊
I have a question w.r.t. parallels.. Do we need to purchase windows license to run it on macOS via parallels ?
Thanks !
The method I used, I didn't purchase windows license
How much of a hassle are VMs on the MBP? I’m headed into a double major in Engineering and Business management and since I will be spending a lot of time behind the screen I want something with as little resistance as possible. There will be windows only software, but likely nothing that takes a really huge toll on the computer. Do you think a MBP 14 with 16/512 GB will suit me?
I don't find too much of a hassle... I mean it's not a native Mac app, so it's not a perfect experience but it works. If I had to work with a bunch of Windows apps I'd go with a Windows machine. Luckily I only need a few so I go with the mac and it handles fine
Great video, glad you mention almost every single stack we use as data scientist
Heck yeah! Gotta look out for my fellow data scientists as well!!
Hey Luke
Which version are you using for parallels - standard (one time) or?
i've upgraded to the subscription based on wanting the updates and updated window version
I'm thinking on get a Lenovo thinkpad, but mac seems good 🤔
I am going to start my data analyst internship, my works will mostly be cleaning data, visualization and considering of doing some machine learning. Do you think will the Macbook Air M2 with 16gb of RAM be enough for me?
Yeah. I’d always opt for more memory if you can afford it. But 16 will be enough
@@LukeBarousse Thank you. Do you think if I work with the M2 Macbook Air, will it have any heat issues? I am also considering the M2 Macbook Pro 13 inches because of the fan. I am a student so I do not have a budget to spend on the 14 inches Macbook Pro model
Thanks for your detailed video. I have a question. Between Macbook pro 13 2020 with max option and Macbook pro 14 2021 (base), which is better in terms of price and performance? Yeah, my goal is for Machine Learning/Deep Learning. Thanks once again.
For price and performance I still feel like the M1 macbook air is the best deal
@@LukeBarousse Thanks for the reply. I agree with you but only to an extent. I really don't like the fanless design of the Macbook air.
the ports coming back for the m1 pro is tempting me very much lol
Yeah I do like having the SD Card slot... it's come in handy as a creator for me
Found exactly the video that I was looking for. Explained to the point covered everything that i hoped for being a Data Analyst. Thanks for the video. I think I'll go with M1 13inch pro. Thats more than enough. No point in getting m1 pro and max
I think you are making a great choice. Glad the video helped with the decision!
@@LukeBarousse hi, I had one more question. The 16gb ram version has been discontinued in India for 13inch. So will 8gb ram be suffice.
It will be great if you could help me with this
@@rohitamalnerkar2152 Hey I do a comparison of 8 vs 16 here: ua-cam.com/video/xzR4L_XYW3g/v-deo.html
Sheets is the way to go!!!!!!!!!
Take note Data Nerds!! You heard it in the comment section here first, folks!!!!
Hi Luke!
Nick!! My dude I miss your face man!!
Hi Luke, I'm planning to get a macbook but I'm still confused if to get 13" M1 or 14"M1Pro. I'm using VSC, VS, MqSQL, MOngoDB, Adobe XD, premier, illustrator, photoshop and some jetbrains like webstorm. Would you recommend M1 to handle all these stuff? I'm a budget conscious and M1Pro is bit stiff for me. I appreciate your thoughts and recommendation. Thanks!
Even with all these apps I feel the M1 air with 16gbs should handle it. If you have the money sure how for the M1 pro. But mac air should be enough
worth the wait!
🙌🏼 Thanks for being patient with me, glad it was worth it!!
I am just going to add 16gb RAM for $65 (for a total of 20gb) in my Lenovo Ideapad. I think I'll be fine!
Cool video Luke!
If you think this is good, then you shouldn't be in computers.
Heck yeah! If it works for you go for it!! Lenovo is also a great option!
@@tonyburzio4107 it gets the job done I guess
I only gonna use power bi, R and Excel, it is necessary buy the mac m1 with 16 gb of ram?
I will not play games or create content
For Power BI you'll need a virutal machine... you can do 8gb , but I recommend 16gb
Can I use windows most of the time on the base M1 Air 8GB for beginner development/data analytics through Parallels without any issues as if it's simply a windows laptop?
You could. However if you're using Windows the majority of your time, I would strongly consider trading in for a windows laptop.
Are these macbooks good for deep learning?
They can, but I don't do a lot of deep learning, so I may not be the best to ask.
hello luke thanks for nice video Right now I'm planning to buy MacBook but I confused between MacBook air 16gb ram and 512 gb or MacBook pro 14 base model which is good for data science and machine?
Macbook Air 16gb is still my machine of choice
considering they are gonna upgrade to M2 MacBook next Spring. better wait few months
From what I'm hearing the M2's won't be out until this same time next year based on other product releases. I understand the need for upgrade but these M1's are already evolved and fast enough IMO. Just my two cents on the matter (Mainly because I think that M1 Mac Air at $899 on Amazon is gonna be the best deal for a year or so)
Were you able to get Windows 10 working under Parallels for the M1 Pro or M1 Max systems? I am under the impression you have to use Windows 11 to work under Parallels on these chips.
Not at all, I had Windows 10 installed previously and just upgraded to Windows 11
@@LukeBarousse I bought the 2021 16" MacBook Pro M1 Max and tried to do a Time Machine install from a 2018 15" MacBook Pro. On my 2018 MBP I had Windows 10 running under Parallels. After the Transfer was complete, I had to sign in and activate on the 2021 MBP M1 Max . Parallels on the 2021 M1 Max would only allow for a Windows 11 install. I had Windows 10 on the 2018 MBP but Windows 11 on the 2021 MBP. What did you do to install the Windows 10 on the 2021 MBP?
@@beachliving3127 Ohh sorry I misunderstood. No I never had Windows 10 installed on my 2021 14" MBP (only my 2020 13" MBP). Is there a reason you need Windows 10 over Windows 11?
@@LukeBarousse My master plan was to get rid of my home based 2009 27” iMac and upgrade my business based 2018 MacBook Pro to the 2021 MacBook Pro M1 Max. My home computer is a 2009 27” IMac that is REALLY SLOW and can’t run current software (QB for taxes is one example).. On the 2018 MacBook Pro I am running Windows 10 under Parallels because certain programs only work on Windows. The new 2021 MacBook Pro 16” M1 Max would combine both my personal and business needs.
The other computers in the business are PC compatibles running Windows 10 as well. As the new owner, I can do what I want and will move to a Mac based system. I bought a MacBook Pro 2018 to run windows 10 under Parallels for my needs. At this time Windows 10 is working well on all of the other machines and these machines will be retired as they age. The plan was to use my 2021 MacBook Pro as the last one to use any Windows 10 applications.
When I used Time Machine to put the 2018 MacBook Pro contents on the 2021 MacBook Pro M1 Max I found Window 10 would not work only Windows 11. I don’t think it is wise to spend a bunch of time working on Windows 11 since I will get rid of all the other machines running windows 10 in a of year or so.
This was what I was looking for.
Heck yeah! Glad this video was able to help!
Hi Luke, thanks for this content! Exactly what I was looking for! Just a question regarding data processing with Pandas. I have large files that need to be imported and processed (6-7GB .txt files) with a lot of numpy and was wondering if you have done any tests on this and which one I should consider - the Apple Macbook 16 with Pro chip, 16GB RAM or the Max chip with 32GB?
I've done some pretty sizeable text files as well ( a few GBs) and I did the processing on both the M1 with 16 GB of memory and M1 Max with 64 GB of memory. Honestly, I didn't notice much of the difference. I would just say at a a minimum get the 16.
@@LukeBarousse thank you! Keep up the great content!
Hello Luke. I want to buy an M1 macbook 14 and use parallels to run power BI. Do you think allocating 16gb ram to the windows side will be enough to analyse large data sets on Power BI? Thanks
Yeah, I feel so. If possible I'd allocate a minimum of 8, but 16 will be more than enough for your need.
@@LukeBarousse thanks a lot. really, really, really appreciate your response. It will save me a lot of money.
@@dareemmanuel6079 Heck yeah, glad to help!
Does anyone have experience on fine tuning LLMs on M1 Pro/Max ? And also just running inference on large models, does that work well? Thanks great video btw