Our best IBC watertank set-up yet [off-grid gravity fed irrigation system]
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- Опубліковано 26 лют 2022
- This week we wanted to fix some of the issues we had last summer with our two IBC tanks that supply water to the garden. As Maarten took them apart he figured out what went wrong, but we went ahead and moved them, put the plactic on properly and put them on top of each other. Will this be the last time we move them?
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New here? My name is Lea and I live with my partner Maarten, our toddler Puck and baby Bo on our land in Central Portugal. We left the rat race in the Netherlands in 2018 and moved south in our old campervan. Two years ago we bought land in Portugal that had been abandoned for several decades. After lots of hard work we now live in a beautiful yurt and keep ourselves busy growing our own vegetables as well as producing olive oil, wine and honey on a small scale. This channel documents all the different jobs we have to do, and sometimes some nice footage of this beautiful country we now call home. Want to see more updates? Don't forget to subscribe!
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Hey, guys, love the 'doppel-decker' IBC...! The air tube is genius. Can you tell me what is the elevation above the garden now, in metres near enough....? Does the flow rate and pressure exceed what you were getting from the pump previously? I think at the end Maarten said it does, but how much better? Did you measure flow rates before and after? Or time to fill a bucket..?
And did you move the IBC set up mainly to save power from pump use? Please advise as I am looking at this issue for someone else....TIA :)
Hi Mark, the bottom of the tank is now +- 5 meter above the taps in the garden. We use 32mm pipe between the tank and the taps and after that it is ordinary gardenhose (18 mm?!) the difference between before and after isn’t that much (because it is just that one tank difference) so I didn’t bother measuring it. Now that the air is out of the system it fills a 15 liter bucket in about 10 seconds, which is overkill for us 😂. Like I said in the video we mainly installed the tanks as a battery so we can run the pump during the day on the solarpanels without using the batteries. We usually water the garden before the sun is on the panels. Our pump would still be able to move more water because we have a strong pump with 40 mm pipe. I hope this helps. Cheers, Maarten.
@@ourportuguesehomestead Yeah that's good info. Is the tank now above the outdoor kitchen, or do you still need to pump to there?
No these tanks are just for the garden and are on level with the kitchen. We have a third tank 5+ meters above the kitchen on the hill for household use.
@@ourportuguesehomestead Ah, cool, I wondered how you managed that. Is that higher IBC also supplied by the dame pump?
Yes the same 40 mm pipe and the pump should be able to pump water all the way to the top of our land (50 meters up)
Nice job Martin. One percent improvement every day nets a 365 percent improvement every year. Most of the homestead channels I watch all say it takes 3 to 5 years to get a foot hold
Everyday is a learning day
Really enjoyed this makes me laugh when you said cut nearly straight and that little giggle 😁
Well done, perseverance wins out in the end. Enjoyed sharing your life today, big hugs to you all.
Yay Martin is back with his off grid wisdom and water tank tips! Hey everyone let’s hit the likes and make this video go viral so we can see MORE of Martin’s tips each week 😊
This one was especially for you Tony ;)
@@ourportuguesehomestead we all love 💖 you Martin ! From the Martin Fan Club , Perth Western Australia 🇦🇺 🦘
Martin has a lot of patience and skills hopefully the garden will grow great this year plenty of water pressure it was fun watching you to work together you’re a great team 👍
Martins video tips has 10,000 views this week ! Just proves that Martin is the star 💫 of this show ! Are we having anymore Martin tips this Sunday ? 😬
@@tonypereira1484 yes more Maarten this week 😂 But also me if you don’t mind
You probably know this, but if the joint has an o ring or gasket, you don´t need teflon. Also, when assembling them, if you coat the rubber o rings and gaskets with vaseline, it´ll make a much tighter seal and protect the rubber from rotting.
Yes I only used teflon on the connections that don’t have gaskets or rings. The vaseline is a great tip and I’ll incorporate it in the next install (if it ever needs to be done again haha)
U have such a lovely boy always out in the open air with mom and dad too precious
I am glad you fixed the water problem Maarten. I am sure it was driving you nuts. I do love your duct tape moments, duct tape fixes everything ha ha. Have a great week end Leah and Maarten.
It really does fix everything! Hope you have a good week as well
IBC tanks, duct tape, baling twine and WD40 is essential. No homestead or farm can survive without these items 😂
Nothing you can’t fix with those four :)
In the way back olden days we said our air planes were held together with bubble gum and baleing wire 🤣😉🥰
Very inventive wooooohoooo!!!
Well done Maarten. You are a genius! Love all your videos and your self sufficiency. Looking forward to seeing your new growing season.
Glad to see little Bo keeping you straight controlling the work. Lovely job mom and Dad!!!!!!
Well, that looked like fun. Sorry to be speaking facetiously, that did not look easy but it worked! Yay! By the way, Bo appears to like his crate. Great idea. Best wishes for your garden watering set-up and a bountiful growing season.
Is this the easiest way yes !! Doesn't look like it to me especially the measure once cut twice!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Sitting at home getting over covid watching you both work and laugh with each other has made my day ! Little Bo in his plastic crate car is a joy I just wanted to chat to him ! At last we have sunshine but the air is so cold .
Happy to provide some relieve, hope you feel better soon :)
Leah, great muscle! I am cheering here for the Leah fan club (although today Bo was the star of the show)! I am glad that the water system will be working so that the new berry patch and of course the new veggie garden can be watered.
Great vídeo. See you next week. Sunday morning. Mirian Lopes from Brasil.
I like martin's idea to put a red ball in the level indication pipe . 😉🥰
So much fun to watch you two this morning. Lots of laughter and creativity!
Making progress and implementing changes based on learning experiences is great to see. Every small improvement adds up to making life just a bit easier for your family. Well done.
The top of the hill is reached one step at a time :)
Maarten is hilarious, funnier than I already knew... art piece out of connectors that are all the wrong sizes. LOL 🤣
Nou krijg je natuurlijk wel algengroei in die doorzichtige plastic slang. En dat gaat ook je eventueel nog later toe te voegen "rode balletje" dan op een gegeven moment vastzetten in de buis. Dus dan moet je goed checken of het rode balletje nog wel de "huidige" waterstand aangeeft, of een ouder maximum waarbij het balletje is vast komen te zitten (waarna de waterstand is gezakt).
Ik zit er aan te denken om een flap van het zwarte plastic zeil over de slang te hangen, maar ik denk ook dat het water vaak genoeg ververst wordt in het slangetje dat de algengroei wel mee zal vallen.
Great Job guys! Keep the videos coming, I'm almost done watching them all. Feels like when you're done reading a book and wanna read more.
We post a video every week ;)
@@ourportuguesehomestead 😍
Just another beautiful day at there Portuguese Homestead lot's of laughter and working together getting it done ! Thank you !
Hi, hello good morning, good Sunday injoy it and good new week all the best to all.
Same to you!
Great Job.
OMG. WOW. Marten, you are the first person on UA-cam I have ever seen who knows how to wind on Plumbers tape the correct way
I hung around my grandparents’ plumbing shop when I was very young and Grandma was watching me. I was translating all your materials and techniques into 1950’s ways. It was neat to hear you explain as you worked, and to see you three. I thought about Puck- looking forward to seeing her too You all are fabulous!
I so love your videos - they have an atmosphere that is unique on you tube and I always look forward to them. ❤️
Thank you! I think we need to frame this comment and hang it in the yurt 😂
Maarten, I recommend that you protect the "sight tube" (water level) from sunlight, otherwise it will gradually yellow and algae might grow inside it.
I’ll probably add a flap of the plastic to cover it when it is not used to look at the level :)
Good no sun light to grow alge. ( black plastic ) Now you have to keep clorox several parts per million in tanks to stop growth, or keep flow thru tanks. Good luck!! Love your works and videos, please stay safe.
Just wanted to point out that Martin’s water tank tips vlog has been on of your most successful over the last few months . Just saying lol 😂
Well done on fixing the water tanks!
Great work!! (By the way, loved the up-close-and-personal view of the chickens grubbing.😆)
Thank!
Brilliant!!!! Thx for sharing 👍👍👍👍👍
Lea cracking jokes about Duct Tape !!
You and Maarten had me laughing out loud so many times here! With you, not at you, of course.
Marvelous that he found the first glitch, and then continue on to make it work!!!
Wrapping the tarps around is brilliant! That should reduce the algae issue.
[How would any of us manage without tarps and duct tape ;) ]
On a more serious note, I hope you guys do not have too much trouble with water this season...
Wishing you all the best.
It will be a tough year, the winter didn't bring rain and a hot and dry summer is in the corner.
All we can do is hope that march and april will bring some rain. We also try to grow crops that don’t require a lot of water, but it will most likely be a long dry summer unfortunately.
Good thing Bo was so helpful! :D It looks like a smart idea - a few smart ideas really. The black to keep the algae from forming, the gravity feed to help the water flow farther and the bonus of the red ball to see the level. Nice!
I like maartins style and think he should do more on the videos...he is quite entertaining
Good morning, take care,always.🌝
Very good no leaks wow ,all those connections and no leaks well done ❤❤
Another nice video. You guys kinda represent the holidays I thought were irresponsible in the past two years. So, best wishes and thank you!
Big project guys! Looks like it will work. I really enjoy your videos and look forward to them.
That is a big improvement glad you guys changed this.
Yea, now you protected the water of sunrays to prevent algegrowing. But because of the colour the water now heats up which could create bacteria growing. My guess is that you need a second sheet of white material to repell the sunlight and keep the tanks cool.
Just add a cup of bleach.
I loved this video. What a good job wrapping the water containers. You must of been good wrapping for Christmas. Bo look adorable in his little container. You both make a good team. Onward you go. Bev USA
One of my first jobs was working in a garden centre. Sometimes people would ask me to wrap the plants they bought because they were a present. That’s where I became an expert at wrapping 😁
Excellent job, no easy task but it's finished...sure would be nice to have an outside tub though..lol
Soon we’ll take baths in the wine barrel again to cool down. The hot tub would be nice for the winter months, but not really essential. This is the main reason why it gets pushed down the priority list.
Yes, one tends to collect odd bits of plumbing... which does come in handy on another project!
Always look forward to all your tips and cheerfulness!
hey great job kids!!! So proud of you.
Thanks for sharing, interesting setup ... know your garden is going to grow more this year ... 😇
Good day Lean and Maarten, enjoyed this project post. Be well….
Thanks, you too.
What an amazing job you both have done on those IBC thanks... thumbs up 👍💯
Ohhhh, yeah. IBC cubes. Been there, done that. In the end I spent many €€€ on some guerilla construction work and have a 24,000l concrete tank in the ground.
Our well holds more than 100,000l when full so we use that as storage for now, but I’m thinking of digging a massive pond on the top of the land in the future that will replace these IBCs for pressure and actually be a proper water store. This will do in the meantime :).
Remember to insulate before next winter ,You could clad the frame with timber .
Really great work, both of you 💛💛💛💛 so much improvement. You should be proud of yourselves
Nice video well done I am going to stack two tanks now after seeing your video .....
Cut twice and measure once 😂
Your chickens seam to love Martin, Every time he shows in a video the chickens are always right there close by him. Real sweet.
They do! They associate him with the digger, which is when all the extra good treats come up
your son is so cute ,good work from u 2. :-)
Great job
I think the recommended number of loops of PTFE (teflon) tape is about 3, if you need more one of the connectors is badly worn or the wrong size - apparently! The clear plastic tube between the IBC tanks used to be called a 'manometer'. Well done Maarten & Lea, you're doing a marvellous job. Nick (a new subscriber)
Hi guys, nice video, measure once cut twice haha nice one.
The drama is overwhelming. 🤣
You'll have to cover the Clear hose as well. It will get green algae over time if it gets direct continuously direct sunlight. I had to clean a hose of a Huge water tank (Staal) which had that on the side. It was covered with a customized cover (goot / Gutter plastic) vertically attached. However, it still got that green thing. I would've made a special hole for the "water level" measurement hose.
I can’t be the only one who thought, from the thumbnail, it was Maartin that was broken.
I’m beyond fixing ;)
Wine bottle cork shaped into a ball for the clear tube to know your level at a glance. :)
Fantastic job Maarten!! Enjoyed this video.
Thanks :)
Lego for adults Martin, love your humor, measure once and cut twice lol. When you are both working what do you do with the children.
Puck was in school and Bo in the crate ;) (and napping before that)
Thank you for this vlog, it came at a perfect timing for us, just as we were installing our own IBC.
One small comment, there is no need to pull out the tank from the cage, since you don't cover the bottom. When the tank is empty, the plastic is flexible enough to pull down the black tarp "skirt" all the way to the bottom. All that is needed is to disassemble the two horizontal bars on the top and cut the tarp to measure.
We’ll keep that in mind for next time ;)
Have a thick bed of sand to put them on. I believe this is a self levelling option
while you were looking for the duct tape - I thought I bet Maarten has hung it on the tree. And there you are - you found it !!!!
Excellant Job Maarten. I have seen IBC Covers, but prefer your method of keeping sunlight out. I am coming out to Portugal to work on my house in Barbaido in May and will need pipe fittings to suit IBC and irrigation pipework. I will try the company you recomend. Best wishes to you both.
Thanks. Yes, purpose built covers may look nicer but you’re paying significantly more for them. Good luck moving here, as far as I can tell you had to wait a long time to finalise the move. Cheers, Maarten.
je kunt een balletje van een dobber voor vissen in de buis doen en dan de niveaus met watervaste stift op de buis voor watermanagment
Hi Lea and Maarten
I think this video would be a good as "How to stack IBC tanks for off grid water irrigation solution" search video.. :-)
Wonder if Maarten would be interested in making a video review of the different DIY/home improvement centers around Castelo Blanco,, with me..
Might add some more keywords to the title :) Possibly! He certainly has lots of opinions on the diy stores
home improvement centers you have Bricomarche Maxmat and Aki think they all in industrial zone of Castelo Branco also with watering supplies you have Saneabi (one of the best in city in my opinion of course)
@@paulovaz1174 Interesting,, I just returned from Castelo Branco, and I did do a DIY store review video with Maarten on a very wet day (video is still a good week out) but I do not believe we visited Saneabi! Maarten liked Regacentro,,, for watering.
BTW: AKI has changed name to LEROY-MERLIN :-/
Marten; I use IBC tanks to treat grey and black water here in california. I have a off grid place in Hawaii I use them for collecting water from roof as everyone does there. Here in California I collect all rain water and treated Grey into above ground swimming pools. I have almost 50000 gals now, i have 3 18ft dia, 1 24 ft diameter and 1 18foot dia that is 6ft high a custom one, will put up another 24ft tak this summer ...getting close to 60K gal. The above grd pools are the cheapest per gallon storage. I keep them covered to keep out debris and sun. I have learned a lot about making them from scratch also. I need to make some videos. My system enables us to keep our garden even during draught. Regarding IBS, you can drill them and tap them for pipe threads. here I have tapped up to 2inch pipe holes. Get a 6inch long pc of steel pipe with threads on at least one end. Cut hole in tank just smaller than threaded end of pipe, Push and turn the steel pipe into that hole.. It will cut threads, you can then thread in PVC fittings etc ...you dont need a holding nut on inside. In this way you put fittings anywhere on the tank. In hawaii i put a 3/4 inch pipe tap at bottom and attached pvc ball valve , I have 4 tanks tied together each with a 3/4 inch pvc ball valve on it. the smaller valve much easier to turn. also i painted my hawaii catchment tanks with water based asphalt emulsion , two coats , to block light. i then painted them wht ( latex works) to keep them cooler..they are in some sun, but plan to put a roof over them . SOmeone suggested Vasoline on your fittings..yes that is good, but I have found the wax ring that is used between toilet and floor much more robust , heavy grease/wax, perfect for plumbing fittings. It seals small leaks , prevents corrosion keeps fittings from seizing up, easier to disassemble. Vasoline is light grease which will evaporate. The toilet wax will last much longer outside. I coat metal pipes in it to prevent rust. My hawaii place i use a bit over 400watts of solar it runs all lights and a small chest freezer I use as refrig. I have it on timer comes on 2 times a day , 9 and 1pm. ( I store solar E as cold in bottom of freezer) Bottom has all 1gallon jugs of water , it just keeps them with ice crystals in them, a 1inch foam board sits on top of them. Inverter is 100watts , but could be smaller, freezer only uses 120watts when running. I am Master degree Engineer, 68yr old, expert in RF/Microwave/GPS/Sat systems, but I fixed ny own cars, still, have since i was 16. I also have a 6000wtt solar system here in california that over ten people get all there electricity from.
Just listened to your comment Maarten about your tanks. I do hope you have a solution at last. X
It’s working really well so far!
That's good news. Fingers crossed it stays that way. xx
Why don't you use a flexible garden hose with perhaps a spray head so you can maneuver it to all the areas of your tanks to clean them.
We only have a garden hose hook up at the bottom of the garden fed by the tanks I’m working on so it is a bit of a catch 22 haha
My granddaughter off 5 ran into the garden and shouted granddad where’s the duct tape I asked why she would need it and her reply was I’ve broken the handle to my toy box as if just a normal everyday thing😊💚💚💚🏴
That’s amazing! Teach them young ;)
Hi Leah and Maarten. Thanks for your video. Lekker to hear about you again😅🙋🏻♀️. Your working so hard and it's nice to see what you have accomplished during the week. Can I ask one question ⁉️. Maybe it sounds not Lekker but would love to hear anyway?😅Why didn't you build the kitchen, compost toilet, (bathroom) nearer to the house? 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️. Take care Greatings Melinda from SA🙏🏻🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷
We prefer to have the toilet at a bit of a distance in case it ever smells (it shouldn’t with enough sawdust but still). And we couldn’t put the kitchen right next to the yurt because we are on a hill and there is no flat spot there
Thank you, was just wondering when it's raining or in the night time😅. I'm a scared persone😄🙈 spesially in the night time. But luckily your going to build your new house 🏠. Be save, see you on Sunday🙋🏻♀️🙏🏻
Great Result !
The reason for adapting the clear vinyl hose into the top cap of the bottom tank is...physics.
If the cap allowed no air to escape..the incoming water would compress the air into an area under the cap....
and would stop water inflow when the pressure of the air equals the pressure of the incoming water.
By placing the hose in the cap and taking it up to the height of the top of the top tank....the air can all be replaced by the incoming water....and the bottom tank is always full if there is water in the top tank...and the valve on the top tank is open to feed into the bottom tank.
Then when the top tank is full the pressure available from the outlet of the bottom tank will be at it's highest....
Thank you for your explanation John. I had no idea what I was doing ;) cheers, Maarten
Painting the the tanks black also works like the plastic…as far as stopping the algae. But when you have plastic, you use plastic!
We used what we had, but I(Maarten) also looked at painted IBCs here and found that on most of them the paint cracked and or flaked after just a year or two. My theory is that the high temperature and the flexing of the plastic blatter causes it to crack. Painting might work better in more temperate climates.
@@ourportuguesehomestead you know, I didn’t consider the temperature difference. I live in southeastern USA… I guess we tend to assume without meaning to that others have the same seasonal temperatures.
I love watching your videos. They mean a lot to me. I’m an older single female and I guess I live vicariously through all you young families that are choosing to homestead. We never thought of such things when I was growing up! I’m proud of you and Martin and the kids! Your bravery in even starting this journey amazes me! Happy Homesteading to you! And thanks for allowing me to see your progress and how you are creating a life for yourselves and family in Portugal! Bless you!
My daughter made her prom dress out of duct tape and her future husband made his tuxedo from it as well. You can't live without duct tape.
They sound like a lovely couple :)
Hazel ☘️ …
Wow that looks complicated … well done for working it all out !
Martin you have the hands of a guitarist do you play ?
It makes no sense to me that the IBC tanks are white ??? …when everyone who buys them have to find a long lasting solution to blacken them ! ??
🙏☘️😘
You might want to.plant some herbs or flowers around the tanks so that any water that may leak will flow into those beds.
Or make sure there are no leaks?
Maybe its a good idea to clean alges in the tanks with vinagar.
Haha ducktape 😅🦆
Yes, I do that every once in a while, but if it gets this thick vinegar won’t be able to get rid of it.
To "cover" the IBC to stop degradation of the plastic and algae growth you can use ordinary house paint...pick a dark colour like mid to dark blue and it will look just right for water....
Paint degrades really quickly in the harsh Portuguese sun so that wasn’t really an option
look up copper sulphate it is basically copper oxidized . a little goes a long way in treating your water to keep algae from growing in your tanks and plumbing . its like a 1 time treatment . a table spoon will treat 18.000 gallons of water . get a half a lb or so ebay couple bucks . they mostly use this in dairy farms to treat the water lots of plumbing . goodluck
Algae is growing because white tanks let the light go thru. May be spray paint them a darker color?
I think you should put an Sea flow pump and air pressure tank inline on your water system It will help with pressure and less use of your pump I have a twelve volt on mine runs on an old car battery use solar power to keep battery powered if can get a 12v deep cycle battery for marine will work best. Thank you for videos.
We don’t have a pressure issue, nor do we have to use our pump often. Twice a week in summer. I’m a bit confused by the comment haha. I’m happy for you, you found a setup that works for you.
just a suggestion my friend did not mean to create confusion. you are a smart man should have known not to comment . sorry for bother
Leuk om te zien hoe jullie aan t knutselen zijn:) Was dat muziek van Eigen huis en tuin hahaha (@22.30)? Een vraagje: Hoe heet die winkel in Castelo Branco waar Maarten de leidingen etc koopt?
In de beschrijving van de video staat welke muziek het is. De winkel heet regacentro.
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can I suggest putting some gause or a lady's nylon on the end of the pipe it holds back the dirt
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Would a power Hose have done an easier and faster job of those tanks?
I’m sure it would’ve, but we don’t have one :)
Why would you put the tanks on top of each other? Wouldn't the top one put too much weight on the one underneath? For great pressure, I'd have to build a ramp or little tower for both. I think you would get greater pressure. We do build on Hills (Bergen) when there's one. My father was Portuguese, living in Curacao. He did build some Concrete tanks (Water bakken) like 8 times the size of those IBC water tanks. he did it mostly on a high leveled place. You are doing great.
No they're made to be stacked with liquid in them. Pressure was fine before because we have them two terraces above the garden. This just looks tidier, and would help with pressure if you don't have the hight difference we have.
would it make sense to cut the top off so you can get in and really clean the inside and then tape it closed? or put white vinegar in it?
Cutting them open is not really an option in this setup and cleaning them completely is not really necessary for garden irrigation (unless you do drip irrigation)
@@ourportuguesehomestead
If you needed to a filter could be placed on the outlet.....
If you have a floating ball valve in the top tank inlet line (the water line coming from the pump) and put a pressure sensing cut off switch on the outlet of the pump...when the pump has filled both tanks the float valve stops incoming water, the pressure in the feed line from the pump rises; the sensor activates and switches the pump off....until the level in the tank drops....
You can use this system on the kitchen IBC as well......just T off the kitchen feed after the sensor switch....
That would maximise your use of electricity produced by the solar system without needing your monitoring it...just turn the pump on in the morning and off at night?
The pump asks a lot from the solar system, so we prefer to run it only in the middle of the day when it can run solely from the panels. I wouldn’t want to risk it turning on at night or early morning when it would drain the batteries. It’s not too much hassle to just keep an eye on the tanks
It would probably last longer if you painted the tanks with a good outdoor paint vice the plastic.
It is hard to find good paint for this purpose and our climate. I have seen a few people around here that used paint and because the plastic blatter flexes a lot with use they tend to crack or flake after a year or two. This plastic lasts longer (as long as the wind doesn’t rip it).
@@ourportuguesehomestead In the US you can purchase something called "flexiseal" which should be good for this project.
@@ourportuguesehomestead so build a structure around it from, e.g., palletwood and then paint that. :-)
Can you now operate a drip irrigation for the garden?
I think the pressure now would actually be too high for drippers.
@@ourportuguesehomestead Get yourself a 3/4" redutor de pressão and a filtro, some 16mm TUBO PEBD (4bar will be enough) and you are ready to setup a gravity drip / micro sprinkler system. You will have a lot of fun and save a lot of water...😉