I prefer triples. They shift well for me and I don't get gaps where the gearing isn't right if you get a proper cassette. With high hills or high winds I can keep my cadence better.
I've broken out my '02 Lemond Zurich with 6500 crank after many years and it's got me to rethinking triples. I don't completely buy the argument about duplicate gears b/c I try to stay in one chainring as long as possible generally. I basically view the bike as a double with an extra chainring to use as needed (for me this means I use the big ring for descents where it's important to stay up with auto traffic or if I have a big tailwind in central WA--I think other riders in flatter areas might view the 30 as the CR they use occasionally). I'm running a 12-25 and I love the fact the chain-line is so much better than on my compact bikes and shifts are so much smaller. The weight of the octa-link is pretty noticeable, but weight isn't really a big concern to me. Cleaning a triple with all those bolts is a bit more of a pain though. Things in cycling are cyclical and it wouldn't surprise me to see the triple make a comeback.
The only true “does everything well bike” that I ever had was my old 9spd road triple. 11-30 cassette with 30/42/53 up front. Today’s crop of wide range doubles are much better than what was available 40yrs ago, but you’re still giving up either your lowest climbing gears or your high speed gears, not to mention that enormous jump when shifting the chainrings. In a few yrs, Shimano will probably come out with a new road triple as if it has never been done before.
I don't like how the bike industry has eliminated the front derailleur. I use 3x9 on my mountain bikes, and 2x9 and 2x10 on my road bikes. Sealed cartridge bottom brackets are great. I've used them for many years with no problems. This info is great for young and new cyclists.
Purchased my first road bike with the "modern" compact crankset (50/34) in 2006 and I admit, I was a skeptic at first. Constant chain drops regardless of how well the front derailleur was dialed in, etc. I really do think that the modern design is much better than the older triple chainrings because now we have cassettes with wider ranges and more gears. On an 11 speed cassette with a 28 or 32 tooth sprocket and in the small ring up front, I feel like I can climb any hill or mountain. Triple chainrings do have lots of small jumps between gears which is great. I think they're a good option for touring bikes and hybrid bikes! Great video and I'm glad I watched.
Thank you so much. I'm restoring an old Avanti Corsa with double rings and was not sure how to remove the cranks. Your vid provided the answer. Cheers.
I'd like to see 11s or 12 triple because of the amazing gear range. Sadly they discontinued at 10 with nearly all brands ending it with their 9s spacing models. (Higher speeds places the cogs closer together but you can dodge the speed by putting guide pins between each chainring)
Im a bit obsessed with the 6500, took me a while to find a triple as here in England the doubles are much more common. The middle 42t was difficult to find but found one on ali. V1 octalink was rumoured to cause a lot of problems but I've never had issues and from what i can make out v2 (longer splines) octalink was mostly introduced for the mtb scene never on the road cranks.
I purchased a used road bike with a Shimano 105 tripple and I love it. I may put a wider range cassette and mountain rear mech on it for even wider range.
My Ultegra left shifter is index for a triple despite having a Shimano double crankset compact. Triple is superior for anyone above a beginner. Straighter chain line and two times better climbing leverage.
i have a 1985 Cannondale SR300. i would like to change from a double to a triple chain ring setup. what would you recomend? I have a Sugino GLP crankset now.
Hello, how are you?, I have an Ultegra crank. Can I use any chaingear that is 5bolt and is 110bcd and spectate that it will fit properly?, Please I would like to know. Have a good one 😘
To put on a modern bike, no. To ride because that's what came with a used bike, yes. Perfectly fine groupset, but the lowest end Shimano road groupose (Claris) would perform better if building something up now
@@Jamesthebikeguy My crank arm(left ) on my Bontrager Triple stripped and I need a new arm. I'm not sure if I should just buy a used crankset orginal or get something modern. Or bring it to a LBS to get them to fix the threads.
@@Jamesthebikeguy I have a 99 specialized allez(9speed)... can I put and 11speed 105 groupset on it? Is there enough space in the rear for a cassette like that
@@artesuave8018 You would need a new bottom bracket (Hollowtech II) and your rear wheel needs to support 11 speed cassette. So if you swap out the bottom bracket, rear wheel, and rest of the groupset, you will be good. However, if you could get by with a 10 speed (eg 105 5700) then you wouldn't need a new rear wheel. And I just typed all that and realized the comment is 2 years old. Oh well. Leaving this comment anyway!
I prefer triples. They shift well for me and I don't get gaps where the gearing isn't right if you get a proper cassette. With high hills or high winds I can keep my cadence better.
I still ride my Ultegra 6500 triple crankset on my 40-year-old Miyata Team Pro frame
Nice!
I've broken out my '02 Lemond Zurich with 6500 crank after many years and it's got me to rethinking triples. I don't completely buy the argument about duplicate gears b/c I try to stay in one chainring as long as possible generally. I basically view the bike as a double with an extra chainring to use as needed (for me this means I use the big ring for descents where it's important to stay up with auto traffic or if I have a big tailwind in central WA--I think other riders in flatter areas might view the 30 as the CR they use occasionally). I'm running a 12-25 and I love the fact the chain-line is so much better than on my compact bikes and shifts are so much smaller. The weight of the octa-link is pretty noticeable, but weight isn't really a big concern to me. Cleaning a triple with all those bolts is a bit more of a pain though. Things in cycling are cyclical and it wouldn't surprise me to see the triple make a comeback.
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The only true “does everything well bike” that I ever had was my old 9spd road triple. 11-30 cassette with 30/42/53 up front. Today’s crop of wide range doubles are much better than what was available 40yrs ago, but you’re still giving up either your lowest climbing gears or your high speed gears, not to mention that enormous jump when shifting the chainrings. In a few yrs, Shimano will probably come out with a new road triple as if it has never been done before.
I don't like how the bike industry has eliminated the front derailleur. I use 3x9 on my mountain bikes, and 2x9 and 2x10 on my road bikes. Sealed cartridge bottom brackets are great. I've used them for many years with no problems. This info is great for young and new cyclists.
Purchased my first road bike with the "modern" compact crankset (50/34) in 2006 and I admit, I was a skeptic at first. Constant chain drops regardless of how well the front derailleur was dialed in, etc. I really do think that the modern design is much better than the older triple chainrings because now we have cassettes with wider ranges and more gears. On an 11 speed cassette with a 28 or 32 tooth sprocket and in the small ring up front, I feel like I can climb any hill or mountain.
Triple chainrings do have lots of small jumps between gears which is great. I think they're a good option for touring bikes and hybrid bikes! Great video and I'm glad I watched.
Thanks for watching.
Thank you so much. I'm restoring an old Avanti Corsa with double rings and was not sure how to remove the cranks. Your vid provided the answer. Cheers.
I hope road triples make a comeback. I don't use them myself, but if I lived in a much more hilly area I would.
I'd like to see 11s or 12 triple because of the amazing gear range. Sadly they discontinued at 10 with nearly all brands ending it with their 9s spacing models.
(Higher speeds places the cogs closer together but you can dodge the speed by putting guide pins between each chainring)
Im a bit obsessed with the 6500, took me a while to find a triple as here in England the doubles are much more common.
The middle 42t was difficult to find but found one on ali.
V1 octalink was rumoured to cause a lot of problems but I've never had issues and from what i can make out v2 (longer splines) octalink was mostly introduced for the mtb scene never on the road cranks.
What's going on the Bontrager group weighs less than the Ultegra?
I purchased a used road bike with a Shimano 105 tripple and I love it. I may put a wider range cassette and mountain rear mech on it for even wider range.
Sounds fun!
Still ride the ultra triple, very relevant
My Ultegra left shifter is index for a triple despite having a Shimano double crankset compact.
Triple is superior for anyone above a beginner. Straighter chain line and two times better climbing leverage.
i have a 1985 Cannondale SR300. i would like to change from a double to a triple chain ring setup. what would you recomend? I have a Sugino GLP crankset now.
Hello, how are you?, I have an Ultegra crank. Can I use any chaingear that is 5bolt and is 110bcd and spectate that it will fit properly?, Please I would like to know.
Have a good one 😘
Would you still recommend this 6500 group in 2020?
To put on a modern bike, no. To ride because that's what came with a used bike, yes. Perfectly fine groupset, but the lowest end Shimano road groupose (Claris) would perform better if building something up now
@@Jamesthebikeguy I see, I was just restoring an old bike that came with Weisman and Simplex components and someone offered me this Ultegra 6500
@@Jamesthebikeguy My crank arm(left ) on my Bontrager Triple stripped and I need a new arm. I'm not sure if I should just buy a used crankset orginal or get something modern. Or bring it to a LBS to get them to fix the threads.
does the dura ace fd-7700 work with a triple crankset?
No. You need a fd-7703 bottom bracket.
my bike currently has a 6500 crank triple and i don't want change for compact !!! NEVER
So if my bike currently has a 6500 crank and I want to switch it to 105 5800 crank, do I need to buy a new bottom bracket?
Yes
Jamesthebikeguy Thankyou :)
@@Jamesthebikeguy I have a 99 specialized allez(9speed)... can I put and 11speed 105 groupset on it? Is there enough space in the rear for a cassette like that
@@artesuave8018 You would need a new bottom bracket (Hollowtech II) and your rear wheel needs to support 11 speed cassette. So if you swap out the bottom bracket, rear wheel, and rest of the groupset, you will be good.
However, if you could get by with a 10 speed (eg 105 5700) then you wouldn't need a new rear wheel.
And I just typed all that and realized the comment is 2 years old. Oh well. Leaving this comment anyway!
Bought a bike with ultegra 6500. Is it worth it to upgrade even to a claris crank?
The 6500 doesnt have a rep for failing