Wood bending for ukulele sides

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  • @tsgtr
    @tsgtr 7 років тому +18

    The 20% over-bending to compensate for the relaxation of the curves is genius. You are an inspiration to me.

  • @bowserwins
    @bowserwins 11 років тому +33

    This is incredible. I can't believe how close to that template the end result was. And the rice cooker steamer box, haha brilliant. If it were me I probably would have just eye balled the new template and done some trial and error.

  • @sherriandalan
    @sherriandalan 11 років тому

    Watching Pat and you as he made his sides was no different then any other builders I have seen. Lots of expensive equipment and beautiful wood with an excellent result. Your vid made it easy with the same stuff I have at home, a table saw, clamps, and a rice cooker. You are the outsider busting in, you are awesome.

  • @JRatLSE
    @JRatLSE 11 років тому

    Every one of your videos is impressive, but your ingenuity in this video blew my socks off! Rice cooker steam chamber? Radius gauge out of a dial indicator? Tightening the curvature of the form to account for spring-back? You're an absolute genius, Matthias!

  • @mathewemden2068
    @mathewemden2068 8 років тому +11

    I love watching the way you problem solve! I learn so much from you. Thank you for this channel!

  • @LiamKowalczyk
    @LiamKowalczyk 8 років тому +4

    You really do have to appreciate the ingenuity of Matthias here. Great video!

  • @spinningchurro
    @spinningchurro 8 років тому +16

    Matthias you FUCKING MADMAN. I lost my shit when ylu brought out the rice cooker. Bravo!

  • @VikasVJois
    @VikasVJois 10 років тому +18

    You are an awesome guy. That idea of a radius gauge and over-bending by 20% was brilliant. Wish I was as creative!

  • @kaden56
    @kaden56 9 років тому +10

    This man is so ridiculously amazing.

  • @billy9brugess
    @billy9brugess 9 років тому +8

    I am almost as excited to make a a rice cooker wood steamer as i am a ukulele now. Awesome vid!

  • @mspacone
    @mspacone 11 років тому

    Matthias,
    Your skill is beyond amazing - I have never seen anyone do the amazing things that you are able to. Thank you for sharing your videos!

  • @ego73
    @ego73 11 років тому

    The rice cooker chimney idea...GENIUS in conception and operation!
    Thanks also for doing the footwork of establishing a 20% reduction in radii to compensate for spring back! If/when I get out the corpse of a rice cooker in my pantry, I'll make one and try it on some walnut or cherry. I'll try to post a video when I get a working setup. Again, thanks!

  • @izeugirdor
    @izeugirdor 11 років тому

    I really appreciate your trial and error approaches. More of an educated guess system. You give me courage to try experimentation on my projects. Thank you.

  • @matthiaswandel
    @matthiaswandel  11 років тому

    problem with light bulbs inside the form is that the wood doesn't heat until it touches the form.
    But it's been suggested to use the oven. That might be a neat thing to try. Once the wood is on the form, dryness won't crack it, so make a bending form without any glue, eliminate the clamps, and then just bake the whole thing in the oven.

  • @sherriandalan
    @sherriandalan 11 років тому

    You are a genius, I am going to scale this up for guitar work. The idea to make an instrument out of oak is great, save the rainforest and the guitar wont know. Looking at things from a new perspective gives new ideas and better products, thank you Matthias.

  • @attiksystem
    @attiksystem 11 років тому

    Your "relaxation" approximation is brilliant! Congratulations. When your ukulele is finished, I hope you'll learn how to play, if it's not already the case.

  • @jamesroberts5778
    @jamesroberts5778 11 років тому

    I'm liking the start of this series already, what a unique project and it should test your wood working skills. I like your use of the rice cooker, very ingenious.

  • @OnEvenKeel
    @OnEvenKeel 11 років тому

    Your friend used a metal band/strap to support the wood when bending. I understand that by placing the strap on the outside (tension side of wood), you shift the neutral axis toward the outside, thereby placing more wood in compression and reducing the likelihood of rupture on the tension side. But, then, you seem to have managed without! Great job - looking forward to the rest of this series!

  • @CosmasBauer
    @CosmasBauer 11 років тому +1

    your dial radius finder is really cool! Also the bending form modification is a really great idea!

  • @HennerZeller
    @HennerZeller 11 років тому

    Good ideas in this video:
    Building angle gauge: ✓
    Overbending shape and calculating how to do it: ✓
    Chimney steamer: ✓
    Thanks for these inspiring videos.

  • @gamingSlasher
    @gamingSlasher 11 років тому

    Aaahh, that was the old ingenius Matthias Wandel. Several great techniques in the same video. Brilliant!

  • @matthiaswandel
    @matthiaswandel  11 років тому

    Oak actaully bends reasonably well, and is often used for steam bending. I think people mostly use exotic woods because, if you put that much effort into building a guitar, you might as well spend a few bucks on some fancy wood.

  • @matthiaswandel
    @matthiaswandel  11 років тому

    But he was talking about alignment, not springback. And the wood doesn't stretch significantly in length, so I don't see how clamping the ends first vs middle first will affect springback.

  • @viktorbublic
    @viktorbublic 11 років тому

    Halfway through the video I thought you're overthinking this, but when i saw result at the end, I must say I'm amazed.

  • @trongod2000
    @trongod2000 11 років тому

    I enjoy your videos. This one brought home a point that needs to be spread out to all schools and especially math teachers. So often kids want to know why they need to learn math. Most of the time they figure knowing how to add, subtract, multipy and divide so they can buy or sell things is all they need. Your video shows one way that math is needed in a more in depth way. Perhaps you could produce a version of something like this video showing some of the various ways you use math.

  • @CosmasBauer
    @CosmasBauer 11 років тому

    I also think that this could have affected the way of the wood springing back a bit. If you would have fastened the two outer claps first and then the middle one, this would have probably pulled the wood much tighter around the radie of the form and would have also put the it under quite a bit of tension but hey - I have no idea and have never tried steam bending... Your calculations and the new, tighter bending form are a really clever solution to that problem! Great vid as always!

  • @darrellroze3514
    @darrellroze3514 11 років тому

    I love the rice cooker solution you came up with. I don't think you will have any problems with your choice of side woods. The sides are supposed to be inert in regards to the sound of an ukulele -- to top "soundboard" being the most important.
    I think I will be using a more traditional bending method when I make my ukulele -- using a homemade bending iron -- but I am always amazed at the ground up solutions you come up with on your projects.

  • @matthiaswandel
    @matthiaswandel  11 років тому

    I shoud add - as before. Please do try out your ideas.

  • @PatEm10
    @PatEm10 11 років тому

    Where there's a will, there's a way! I would have given up or changed my final design after seeing how much initial spring back there was. But the solution you came up with is why I'm subscribed to your channel. Looking forward to seeing how this turns out!

  • @awldune
    @awldune 11 років тому

    To me this is one of the most impressive things you've done, specifically your mathematical compensation for the springback.

  • @matthiaswandel
    @matthiaswandel  11 років тому

    Yes, would be. the corners of the block left some slight marks in the wood.

  • @gjdewald
    @gjdewald 11 років тому

    I think this is a good observation because it makes more sense to tighten the clamps in a balanced manner. In theory, leaving some slack in the middle of the work until the ends are bent allows more area to absorb the bending stresses. But, I have never bent wood so I don't know if there is any difference in results.

  • @hamstereyes
    @hamstereyes 11 років тому

    Impressive ingenuity, I really enjoy watching the process you go through to find a working solution.

  • @12345NoNamesLeft
    @12345NoNamesLeft 11 років тому

    That rice cooker idea is very creative.
    In the article you mentioned you had additional relaxation.
    In Pat's video he did additional heat cool cycles while on the form.
    Although you don't have that heating pad, could you just use your kitchen oven ?
    Most of them will do low temp heating like 150 or 200 degrees Fahrenheit.

  • @GenoLoma
    @GenoLoma 6 років тому

    I love how you've brought all the timber parts into the kitchen, and are working directly in the middle of the kitchen floor, to use the rice cooker and turkey roaster, instead of taking them out to the workshop.. your wife must be awesome to allow such antics.. That'd never work in my house.. ;)

  • @matthiaswandel
    @matthiaswandel  11 років тому

    There is always bracing glued onto the sound board and back, but I have never seen internal framing.

  • @PeterSmithwoodsmith
    @PeterSmithwoodsmith 11 років тому

    I used an iron and spray bottle to make some instruments very difficult but i managed it. i prefer your solution Matthias. Fantastic. thanks

  • @Jhopnik
    @Jhopnik 11 років тому

    What a smart bloke. I hope your ukulele is as good as the ideas that achieved it. Great job!

  • @kentdutrieux8886
    @kentdutrieux8886 11 років тому

    Matthias your mind must be a wicked place to live in, you come up with the neatest things. No mather what the subject, your also fun and informative to watch. You should have a TV show.

  • @SugarcreekForge
    @SugarcreekForge 11 років тому

    That's a very interesting project build, Matthais. I will be watching this one with interest.

  • @cjhoylemusic
    @cjhoylemusic 11 років тому

    that was soo cool how you made the modified form to counter the springback!!!

  • @claudioscola
    @claudioscola 11 років тому

    Really enjoyed seeing this. I play the uke and I love seeing stuff over engineered. Can't wait for the progress.

  • @aerofart
    @aerofart 11 років тому

    Nice work. Clever approaches. I wonder if steam from a steam cleaner applied to the bending stock while it is clamped to the original bending form would reduce or eliminate the spring-back altogether.

  • @matthiaswandel
    @matthiaswandel  11 років тому

    That's the theory.
    By "poorly made", I suppsoe you mean off by a fraction of a millimeter. And getting it accurate is tricky, because you have to compensate for the layer of the veneers. So imagine 4 layers of veneer, each 0.1 mm too thin or too thick, and you have a problem!

  • @matthiaswandel
    @matthiaswandel  11 років тому

    I don't follow. How does that make the alignment not right?

  • @PrimozKK
    @PrimozKK 11 років тому

    I am amazed by how genius and innovative yet simple your solutions of problems are. Your videos are so inspiring! =)

  • @learnerlearns
    @learnerlearns 11 років тому

    Really clever! Especially that rice cooker + homemade chimney idea!
    Perhaps the minor cracking you experienced was due to the choice of wood. I have never seen Oak used for instrument sides. Experience with Oak suggests it might be a trifle hard to work with because it is so rigid. Although, your clever method seems to have tamed it.
    I'm keen to see the finished Uke! Good luck Sir!

  • @br-bk1lq
    @br-bk1lq 11 років тому

    I love all of the creative improvisations.

  • @userunavailable3095
    @userunavailable3095 11 років тому

    Looks good. It will be interesting to see what it sounds like when its done. I've never seen an instrument made of oak, and I suspect there is a reason for that. It bends well, but it might not have the ability to resonate like spruce.

  • @NOLAMarathon2010
    @NOLAMarathon2010 11 років тому

    Very impressive, Matthias. I would have thought that ukuleles would have an internal frame which help to hold the skin in position. My recollection is that my Yamaha accoustic big body guitar (long since given to my son) had several frame members inside.

  • @hermansonsc
    @hermansonsc 11 років тому

    Excellent. I'm very impressed by your persistence and ingenuity. If you don't mind, what was the final thickness of the sides, and what temperature was the steam in the rice cooker?

  • @volodimirkun
    @volodimirkun 11 років тому

    Heyas Mr. Wandel!
    a little observation i got from viewing a video of the ukulele master, You've posted earlie, in comparison with Yours technique : he first fixates the middle clampbut NOT TO THE VERY BOTTOM - he goes like a 2/3 of a way down, then he clamps edge clamps and in the last part he fasterns the middle clamp to the very bottom - then the wood is stretched.
    You instead first fastern middle clamp to the bottom point ant then do the side clamps.
    In this case the alignment is not tight

  • @thrjygdcmnbfdzfsa
    @thrjygdcmnbfdzfsa 11 років тому

    using that smaller template for steaming was a great success. well done!

  • @jsyren1
    @jsyren1 11 років тому

    When steam bending white oak for boats frames green wood is used. Also a metal backing is often used when bending, it keeps small grain from releasing.

  • @lukealexander3639
    @lukealexander3639 4 роки тому

    Good work. I think if you built a mold where the sides are inside, you can glue the kerf linings, top and back on while in the mold and you won't have to worry about springback.

  • @BackyardWoodworking
    @BackyardWoodworking 11 років тому

    You learn something everyday. Well done.

  • @JustClaude13
    @JustClaude13 11 років тому

    I love the rice cooker steam box.I wish I'd seen this before I tried to learn bending.
    The fractured scraps were very useful.

  • @pocket83
    @pocket83 11 років тому

    After you remove it from the steaming device, does it have a noticeable "set-up" time? My intuition tells me that you would have around two minutes before the piece begins to lose its pliability.

  • @bc65925
    @bc65925 11 років тому

    A friend of mine was making re-curve bows once and he was using crisco and a paint stripping heat gun to bend the wood. Just melting the crisco into the wood at the bends.

  • @DominicEidson
    @DominicEidson 11 років тому

    I think what he means, is: When Pat bends the wood around the form, the waist clamp is tightened after the bottom/top clamp - this causes the wood to be pulled tight around the other two curves, which might be why he has less springback (he still had some, but much less) than you do. I'd be curious if you could do an experiment and compare the results....

  • @NathanBowmanMusic
    @NathanBowmanMusic 11 років тому

    By causing the laminations to come unglued? That seems fair. Mr. Hawley reheats his bends though - do you think there's a way to reheat yours without damaging the form? Maybe layer on some paper towels before final clamping, resoak them later, and then hit it with a heat gun? (pure speculation, as I don't have a shop to try it out myself)

  • @matthiaswandel
    @matthiaswandel  11 років тому

    For more info, click in the description (just like it says at the end of the video)

  • @jloewenheim
    @jloewenheim 11 років тому

    I look forward to your results. Not sure the fact that it doesn't heat until touching the form is a bad thing. Same thing happens if one uses a bending pipe. Let us know how it goes, I'm still busy cutting tops off cheap guitars practicing the top making.

  • @PhoenixCustomPrimiti
    @PhoenixCustomPrimiti 11 років тому

    This is most intriguing. Looking forward to how this will come together.

  • @PeterAgostiniJdcap26
    @PeterAgostiniJdcap26 11 років тому

    Matthias great you showed the math of the difference of curve. But Sir you have the form block , make 2 of blocks an steam them at the same time clamped. Pull out them dry. Getting to the end results justify 's the means of method TU . TY

  • @matthiaswandel
    @matthiaswandel  11 років тому

    Mostly I did not find the curved piece when I did the final bend.

  • @AbdallahEzzatKoji
    @AbdallahEzzatKoji 11 років тому

    Bravo man, you can make anything out of wood.

  • @woodstoney
    @woodstoney 11 років тому +1

    Proving once again that ultimately, science will win out!! Good job Matt!!
    (can't wait until you figure out the science of playing it) Heh!!;)

  • @metalfist616
    @metalfist616 11 років тому

    as i did my uke couple years ago i did use several layers of vener , similar to plywood, bended and glued them together, worked fine :)

  • @geometricbass
    @geometricbass 7 років тому +2

    Watching you problem solve is inspirational. Hooked.

  • @johnnyfrugal1273
    @johnnyfrugal1273 11 років тому

    The Cavaquinho is a predecessor to the Ukulele. Portuguese men from Madeira, who arrived in Hawaii in the 1870s (Manuel Nunes was the most famous I think), built new instruments from local materials. Hawaiians came to call them Ukulele, "Jumping Flea". Related to the Machete, Braguinha, and Cavaquinho, but, as I understand, not quite the same thing.

  • @matthiaswandel
    @matthiaswandel  11 років тому

    Try what you suggest, and you will know why I didn't do it your way.
    Male and female formers - those are very prolematic. No flexibility in those, so pressure is rarely even.

  • @jacobbroe5279
    @jacobbroe5279 8 років тому +1

    Question : would it not have helped to re-steam the wood and then re-clamp...however perhaps useless extrawork but perhaps another way of getting job solved?

  • @jimstools3937
    @jimstools3937 8 років тому

    Mathias, you are awesome. I love all your videos.

  • @matthiaswandel
    @matthiaswandel  11 років тому

    if I unclamp and re-steam it, it nearly straightens out. So I'd have to have a non-wood, non-rusting bending form to put in the turkey roasting pan. So I don't! :)

  • @thedraphter
    @thedraphter 11 років тому

    Every piece of wood is tonally different from every other piece of wood, but each species of wood will have a similar tone to other boards of the same species. some of the exotics (besides looking really good) will have a tone that is more desirable by many people. Go to a guitar store, and have one of the sales people strum 4 different guitars one right after the other, you will hear the difference. Make sure they all have the same shape, but just use different woods.

  • @aserta
    @aserta 11 років тому

    I think you should steam the board once more after you've clamped it. I know, it's complicated but it would help. I've played with bending wood and in more than half the times i've used that method it yielded a better result than just steaming then applying it to the form.

  • @toolhog10
    @toolhog10 10 років тому

    Would the curvature not spring back as much if you steamed it, put into form, then steamed again in the form?
    I love that curvature meter... nice work.

  • @yayayayayyayyayay
    @yayayayayyayyayay 9 років тому

    That was an awesome way to solve that spring back problem! Although, through my experience of building an acoustic guitar it was much easier to soak the wood for a day and then heat a metal pipe to then form by hand. Less math, which is easier for me but I don't think math is as much of an issue for you. Love your vids!

  • @bill4123
    @bill4123 11 років тому

    Another variation of the blow torch method is a high watt incandescent lightbulb. A dimmer switch could add more control over the temperature.

  • @HanDuVett
    @HanDuVett 11 років тому

    You are a genius, Matthias!

  • @arrenbie
    @arrenbie 11 років тому

    Matthias,
    where can we get the plans for the device you made to calculate the curvature or radii on curves?
    The way you solved the springback is fantastic!
    Ralph

  • @FynexFox
    @FynexFox 11 років тому

    I can't wait to see how this project progresses; can you play the ukulele?

  • @matthiaswandel
    @matthiaswandel  11 років тому

    UA-cam can be slow in the evening. Try watching it in the morning.

  • @sultandragon1able
    @sultandragon1able 7 років тому

    to sum up, you are the best on youtube

  • @TheodoreWoodford
    @TheodoreWoodford 8 років тому +1

    Top tip: I'm a furniture maker and if I'm steaming wood I'll use a piece of drainpipe with a cap on one end and a wallpaper stripper on the other.

  • @alanochanman
    @alanochanman 11 років тому

    do you have a personal profile or something? i'm just curious on how you acquired such amazing experience and knowledge.

  • @PeterAgostiniJdcap26
    @PeterAgostiniJdcap26 11 років тому

    read it again . by steaming both halves at the same time
    in a larger tub you achieve the same results ( on form blocks ) . It takes tools an some times you have to make a tool to get the end result .

  • @seephor
    @seephor 11 років тому

    Matthias,
    I noticed you used a curved clamping block for the center bend initially and you later used a square piece of block for the final round. DId you find the curved piece less effective in creating the center radius thus using a square piece to drive the edge into the curve for a tighter radius?

  • @fouroakfarm
    @fouroakfarm 11 років тому

    Brilliant as usual. Like the cork floor also

  • @andregross7420
    @andregross7420 11 років тому

    Don't steam the wood. Boil it, and you need a special 300*F heating pad under the wood you are bending separated with a sheer of spring steel. But with the limited tools you have, nicely done!

  • @inpersonal
    @inpersonal 11 років тому +1

    wow a stroke of genius there

  • @Daninashed
    @Daninashed 11 років тому

    Hi Matthias, Dan here from the U.K. You seem not to use trigger/kwik clamps very much in your videos, I just wondered what your thoughts were 'cos on a job like steam bending I reckon F-clamps look a bit fiddly. Can't wait to see the rest of the project!

  • @dariocorral
    @dariocorral 11 років тому

    Damn! You are a genius mathias, nice solution

  • @messenger8279
    @messenger8279 10 років тому +12

    is there any problem you cant solve. ? Always amazed by the solutions.

  • @awldune
    @awldune 11 років тому

    I wonder if you will need to recalculate the amount of compensation for different species and samples of wood.

  • @MrGuitarbike
    @MrGuitarbike 11 років тому

    You are a very smart person. I build guitars, and it's very interesting to see someone who has so much experience in woodworking doing luthiery. Were you an engineer?

  • @MrLeonard55
    @MrLeonard55 11 років тому

    I have a question about Paul's dowel maker. Does it need to have fine teeth spaced closely or could you use the metal from a drywall saw? They are about 6" long but spaced farther apart.

  • @obviouslyblack
    @obviouslyblack 11 років тому

    Very interesting methodology! Just wanted to point out that in Hawaii, we pronounce ukulele more closely as "oo koo leh leh" and not "you kah lay lee." No biggie, though. Great video as always. Cheers!

  • @scotty2307
    @scotty2307 11 років тому

    Hey Mathias, forget about the specific wording. There is a bit of a language barrier. He is eastern European and just misspoke. He is just saying that If you pull the inside radius nearly tight, then clamp the ends, and then finish clamping the inside radius, it will pull the strip tightly to the form. When you clamped your strips, there were slight gaps around the large radii. It probably makes no difference to the finished product anyway.