Drums are only there to keep time and Make a song sound Badass Then Whiplash (the movie) got me interested in Jazz and Drums I Listened to the Dire Straits - Sultans of swing The Vinyl Recording, and how the drums interact with the Guitar Chords. Then i started to listen to Dave Brubeck's Take Five, especially the drum solo. Then i listened to Julien Lage (Nocturne, I'll be seeing you. Live in LA) and how the drums work with the "Main Attraction". Now i Love Jazz Drums. Because they do what they are supposed to do (Keep time) and also complement the Music (Harmonically, like chords) and are capable of Solos. All at the same time. It doesn't matter what you do. But when you listen to a Shit ton of Music. You'll eventually end up at Jazz.
not me, i dont 'try' to tune, i actually tune to actual true notes. no one i have seen does this. bozzio claims to, actually he just writes note names on his piccolo toms. but you need a tunebot or cherub drum tuner to do it, impossible by ear even with perfect pitch. and tuning is one thing, but keeping them in tune with themselves and the kit is not easy. you have to alter your playing, stick choice, drum size and head choice, etc. its not as simple as just tuning existing drums
She's awesome. I think drums are often under utilized by artists. They're capable of so much more than just keeping time or creating a pulsing rhythm. Great video. Wish it was longer.
Modern music is driven by technological improvements. The modern drumset itself was just a technological aid for drummers so they could do more. What is the 'commercial' of today could well end up being the standard of tomorrow. As modern musicians, to keep up with current and future tech is a must.
not commercial as in music that is easily sold to the masses, commercial as in an advertisement for "Sensory Percussion by Sunhouse". If they were talking about drum triggers in general, sure, but they made a point to underline the brand. Not even saying it is a "commercial", but that's how it ends up coming across.
When people say Drums can be played “melodically” and literally play a melody, I think that’s only one level of it. But the idea of playing melodically on Drums to me is just playing with melody in mind. Meaning, don’t just learn the Drum part and “keep time”, learn the melody, sing along to the melody as you play. This will make you play more “melodically”. it’s everyone’s job in a group to be time keepers, it’s not the drummers job. If that was the case, why not just use a backing looped Drum track? Because Drums serve as an equal tonal contrast against the other instruments.
Yes...voice and each musical instrument can be used as one, two or all three of the parts of music: melody, harmony or rhythm. Drums can be used melodically (the toms are pitched), just a the human voice can be used in a percussive manner (rapping, beatboxing).
NickN2 all closed/half closed strokes on kit are collectively called 'rimshots" by many people. Just like comedy rimshots does not refer to something specific. Yes, a snare rimshot is a specific half closed stroke, but the collective term for all rimshots, rimclicks, and crossticks are "rimshots". If you have a better generic term, let's hear it. This is the term most pro drummers know.
wiremessiah most pro drummers come from a marching band/drumline background and it is taught in most if not all schools that rim clicks are specifically on the rim and a rim shot is when the stick meets the head of the drum and the rim of the drum at the same time to add a punch to the sheet of music so no. rim clicks and rim shots are not the same.its even written differently too
I think that any fan of classic prog rock will have known this truth about how versatile drums can be. Look no further than ELP or King Crimson to hear some next level drumming.
Anyone heard of the genre 'indian classical music' ? .......these things had been established long back in this genre. In Indian classical concerts there is a specific section called 'sawal-jawab' meaning 'question-answer'.....where the melody instrumentalist plays a shorts melody sequence and in the next bar the percussionist plays an equivalent of the melody as a reply creating a beautiful effect.
Not only that...(Hi, Abhishek ! Daisy here.)...a quick synopsis of the rhythmical /melodic range that you find in Indian classical music: tablas and the North Indian AND South Indian drums have beautiful traditional tonal contrasts in the various strokes on the drums. Also, just to speak about tabla, which is only ONE percussion instrument set..there are many different traditions, schools and styles of tabla. If you look at the field of tabla literature as a whole--that is to say, all the different compositions by many different masters of many different schools over the past few centuries...you find a range of literature that is at least as wide, extensive and varied as say, piano/harpsichord literature or violin/viola/cello literature. AND on top of that, the level of mathematical complexity and organization in tabla literature is far above the level found in Western classical music and somewhat more developed than jazz. What you won't get much in of Indian music is harmony. Melody is far more developed in Indian music, but harmony, nope. Hey, enough is enough !
As a beatboxer, I'm always singing along in my head but it's always so much fun to bust out the vocal trumpet noise or sing with the basses. I'm glad drum players can "sing" along with the melody too!
초등학생 때부터 최애 음악 장르가 재즈인데, 여러 채널 돌아다니며 재즈 플레이리스트 들어봐도 이렇게 제 취향에 딱 들어맞는 재즈만 쏙쏙 골라 엮어 플리 만드시는 분은 JAZZ IS EVERYWHERE님이 처음이에요. 재즈 플레이리스트는 단연 이 채널이 짱입니다,,ㅠㅠ 넘 좋아요🤍 올해 고3이 된 저는 주로 단어 외우기 싫을 때마다 이 채널 플리를 틀어놓고 외우곤 해요. 매번 덕분에 음악 너무 잘 듣고 있습니다! 좋은 기분을 선물해주셔서 감사해요~ 채널주님께 다가올 앞으로의 삶에 더 자주 행복한 순간이 있기를 기도할게요. 그럼 오늘도 좋은 하루 보내세요🍀
You have missed it. Other than keeping time, the drummer is contributing emotionally to the music by controlling the tension and release. The different sounds are different tensions - not melodies. When a drummer solos - the emotion of the tension has taken over the song. He is not creating a melody. That said, there are some songs that match a tuned drum to a melodic note. That is rare.
“Rare“ is very subjective. I myself dont know jazz that much so I cant say anything about that but look to irish music (specifically Bodhràn playing) and you find loads of people tuning their drum to D as must tunes are traditionally played in D, for the whistle players. Jim Higgins for example plays extremely melodic on the drum. I know this is not the thing you are actually talking about but it might still be interesting
different tensions on the drum, and different kinds of drum, produce different pitches. a melody is nothing more than a series of pitches in a rhythmic order. therefore the drummer is creating a melody.
well in a way, technically, although drums produce indefinite pitches,particularly two headed drums. and melody need not have rhythmic order. indian classical music has a section that is unmetered melody, and lacks coherent rhythm deliberately. the pitches usually thought of as melodic are definite scale notes
If you were a Pearl Jam fan from 1992 through 1997 listen to how their drummer at the time - Dave Abbruzzese - played the drums. Idk if he’s jazz trained or not but his playing style was extremely melodic. And I think his ingenuity actually is responsible for quite a bit of their extreme success in that era. He was playing drums like no one else could and if you were listening you’d definitely hear it.
Well, yes ... but not for this way of hitting the drum. I mean, it's fairly commonly used in the wrong way, that's my point. There "rimshot" sound is a loud, sharp hit (hence the name) that incorporates hitting both the center of the head and the rim with the stick at the same time. Watch here: ua-cam.com/video/BfR-R1yh_p4/v-deo.html
well then calling a generic facial tissue a 'kleenex' isn't 'right' either. so next time you hear someone call it that, i hope you are consistently pedantic and say 'kleenex? Come on. facial tissue, please'
I didn´t know this woman, she´s really great and her approach to the music is just right. You can talk with drums, you can sing, and you can play with felling and emotions to express yourself, that is the real meaning of art.;
The ultimate drum solo, as far as I'm concerned, it the one from Iron Butterfly's In A Gadda da Vida. It's a couple of minutes in and lasts maybe five minutes. I had to pull my car off the road after about 30 seconds.
Ultimate drum solo? In A Gadda da Vida? That's a laugh. Go check out this solo by Tony Williams. ua-cam.com/video/uFCJs_WvsG4/v-deo.html And he's just warming up. Or, check out Billy Cobham's solo on his album Total Eclipse. It's entitled Last Frontier. Or, check out Trilok Gurtu, he's a guy that plays melody lines on rhythmic instruments probably more than anyone. He's usually playing many melody lines and rhythms. Here's a video of some ridiculous playing of his. ua-cam.com/video/922LumI2ilo/v-deo.html&frags=pl%2Cwn
For me, it's Michael Shrieve with Santana playing Soul Sacrifice Woodstock 69 is probably the most incredible solo I've ever heard, the mix between jazz, rock and latin music is just something out of this world. Also check out Max Roach, he's the master of melodic soloing. Elvin Jones, Tony Williams, Art Blakey to name a few, John Bonham's and Ginger Baker's playing is an amalgamation of all of these amazing musicians.
Really ??? Africa Gaelic drumming Slavic drumming Native North/South American drumming Greek/Mesopotamia drumming Norse drumming Asian drumming All origins
@@34672rr listen I respect the reply and understand your point but I truly don't believe that we all originated in Africa due to more Neanderthal variations having spanned from what is eastern Europe and South America. But thanks for the reply.
@@34672rr once again I respect the reply and the theory but after the migration from Africa the large majority went to what would become Persia as they migrated about 70 000 years ago aswell as the rest of Europe yet the earliest signs of drums go as far as only 40 000 years meaning that anywhere in the world could have spanned drums. Oh and I'm from Ireland with Norwegian, German, English and Scottish heritage.
Yeah drumming didnt COME from Africa, its just a human thing. Im really into Indian drumming so when she said it came from Africa I had to disagree. BUT I agree with the comment above African drums very very heavily influenced American Jazz music
Yeah but if we didn't hear the song first and after her playing, and instead she just played the "melody" of the song firstly, it wouldn't feel melodic.
doesnt matter. art is always relative. if you had never heard music before, it wouldn't feel melodic. in fact most people dont even know what melody means
@@34672rr Yeah in some cultures they enjoy atonal music because they don't listen to music we are used to listen. I don't say her "melodic" playing is bad, and I love playing the drums, I just think it is *not* as melodic😝
hard to say, up for interpretation, especially given the generic definition of 'musically satisfying sequence of notes'. we usually think of notes in a scale, but thats not always the case. in the end its just another semantic argument.
Hahaha wiremessiah always comes across as a total twat in the comments. Intentionally missing the point and then when get owns tries some word salad and claims others are playing with semantics and then when won't let it go claims others are OCD. You are totally correct. If we didn't hear the song first there's a good chance most people couldn't identify the title. Even the drummer in this video is not very confident if it was heard. If that melody was played by a trumpet or something like in "Name that Tune" most would guess it fairly quickly. Maybe it would sound clearer on drums which are actually tuned, like bongos or steel drums. Doesn't sound like much on standard drum kit because that's not what they were designed for, as is clear in this video. It's just an extra thing discovered on this instrument, just as people find many additional techniques for playing other instruments.
This is so interesting. I built a set of drum triggers myself recently and have been developing a patch utilizing Max/MSP and Ableton to trigger melodic phrases on synths via a trigger to CV to MIDI conversion. This is seriously the next step for drummers and it is amazing to see all the other drum artists utilizing these same technological possibilities to create melody on percussion. We are making the future, not waiting for it. I am so glad to be alive right now!
Next thing they try to sell us is a device that will take the pitch out of the piano to turn it into drums. If I want steel drums I play steel drums. Sometimes you WANT a non-melodic instrument: That's drums.
I really like the look of those sample triggers. Whether for jazz or not, I reckon I could have good fun with those, without making my drum kit pointlessly huge.
AudioBootlegs He played well and was melodic... and harmonic. ALOT of current drummers use triggers. 1000's Since the '80s. Musical Instrument Digital Interface nothing new. Check out Peter Sprague both he and his drummer(s) have been utilizing MIDI for decades... again nothing new here
That is NOT post-production. She uses sensors, Sun House sensors specifically. NOT triggers : sensors. Those are waaaaaaaaaay more advanced than triggers. Like you can map over 70 zones for one drum, and it reacts to all sort of little tiny things and can detect over 10 ways of hitting. It IS new. If you listen closely while looking at the different part of the drums she's hitting, you would realize not a single standard MIDI trigger can do this. Finally, notice that those sensor are plugged with XLR plugs instead of jack... light-years ahead of a piezo "on/off - softer/harder" sensitivity. But I guess you're the expert in the house :P
Jas Bataille MIDI is performance data Post production meaning how this video was edited versus recorded. Nothing new here. Trying to use post production to make up for that doesn't fool everyone.
The Calendar Business exactly I much prefer Venezuela. What I’d give to live in Soviet Russia! I’d gladly waste away in the gulag for the glory of the state.
". . .African culture, where drumming came from. . ." come on, you're a professional musician, you know "drumming" was invented independently around the entire world. While chanting and singing may have been the earliest music, drums were the first instruments, and predate recorded history. You just took my favorite thing about drums, that they are completely universal and are practically built into our DNA, and made them a secret trick found by only one piece of humanity.
Yes, but that's not what she said. "African drumming traditions blending with western marching drum traditions resulted in second line drumming, which became the foundation for jazz drumming." is not the same as, "Drums are from Africa." If you're going to teach people about drums, actually teach them, or at the very least, don't lie and hope people will just know what you should have said, and fill that in themselves.
“Africa where drumming came from” what a load of bullshit. Drums have been a part of most cultures from even their most primitive days. It’s not something exclusive to Africa. Europe and Asia and the americas all had their own style of drums.
This was an interesting video. I had no idea they made something like that. She seems to be a pretty great drummer. I wonder what she means by saying drumming came from African culture. Modern drumming or just the whole talking drums? I assume she just meant the talking drums because much older drums have been found in places outside of Africa, so I have doubts “drumming” in general originated there.
Kayla Colfax Talking drums are specifically from West Africa. I watched a video the other day of one being made. It was the drum the black gentleman was playing in this clip.
Kayla Colfax She meant in general. Come on Kayla, everybody knows Rock, Jazz, etc are so called Black music forms originally. They didn't create the music but borrow the instruments from other people.
It sounds like she meant all drumming, which is incorrect. Modern percussion in Western music is heavily influenced by African music traditions but percussion definitely did not uniquely originate in Africa
so you never heard of a comedy rimshot ? words sometimes have different meanings, bro. i know thats hard to comprehend, but give it the old college try.
also 'whales' is a term with both general and specific meaning. dolphins and porpoises are technically whales, but the 'true whales' are baleen whales. oh how the intricacies of language elude you. probably all the pent up emotion an ocd. don't allow yourself to be triggered so easily, grasshopper. not a good look.
Do you still not get the fact that a rimshot is different to a rim click? When someone says rimshot, they are referring to the specific action (rimshot), not the generic (hitting the rim in some form). The same way that crashing and riding on a cymbal are different, but both are hitting a cymbal. Intricacy does not equal confusion and double meanings. oh how the intricacies of language elude you. Probably don't lecture someone about the intricacies of language at the same time as forgetting to capitalise and missing out letters. not a good look.
Allen it's a females version of rimshots. you know- we give them a break and cheat reality- and then pretend they can do what men/professionals can do.
whoa there, Tiger. She was a beast on the kit. She can play for sure, but her usage of rimshot had me confused. Her talent didn't match up to her knowledge of playing lol
@@beggingkaos6199 Totally agree with you man, Jazz is one of the greatest and most complex forms of Art but listening to it doesn't unfortunately mean that u are such an intelligent person.. E un sessismo del genere denota il non aver capito un cazzo di Jazz
not sure what they had to do with the female part, males didn't decide to dominate the industry with their big evil plan, males just gravitate more towards it.
The correct answer is, who gives a crap. You ideologically possessed person. She's is in this video because she's the one doing the exploration. Try to look at people as individuals, not genders, for a change. I'm so sick of identity politics and the lazy people that bear them to save themselves having to think. Why am I sick of it? Because it leads to Communism and tyranny.
you could look at people as individuals if they were not opressed as groups. The offbalance of famous male/female musicians is huge and no, @jzonkel its probably not an elaborated big evil plan, but it's clearly a cultural fucked up shit. Unless you can justify genetically a "bigger gravitation towards music" in males than in females it's a cultural problem. And a huge part of cultural problems such as these are lack of references; and precisely what this video is doing (having a female drummer) is giving this reference to 47k people who have watched it so far. So I don't think there's anything wrong about Wul's comment.
I don’t think she understands how vibrations and percussion works. When a drum is hit, a sound is made without a particular note that can be made out. When a guitar string rings it plays a near infinite amounts of notes, however the note you hear is the strongest one out of the multiple notes interwoven into that sound. If you play a note on an instrument and then analyze it in the frequency domain you will see that what sounds like an E is actually multiple other notes within it, however you will find a large spike around frequencies that correlate with the note that E note. Now what gives a drum sound a “drum sound” is that there is no large spike under one particular frequency, all the notes are of equal magnitudes. Therefore the perceived note is nothing, just a beat or percussive sound. That’s why you don’t need to tune your drums to a particular key to match the key on the song that’s played. There is no melody played when she hits the drums, it’s just you’re expecting to hear the melody and you correlate the two together in your mind. The drums are not a viable instrument to conduct melodies with.
Yes and no. Drums are a block of sound, especially snares. But thats if you buy rock drums. Tamtams are basically a toned instrument if you tune em sharp enough. A snare without the beads has a pretty sharp sound depending on how you tone it. Cymbals are blocky depending on type and if they shake but hitting the dome on most cymbals gives a very pure sound. Basically if you tone it like a classical percussion instrument its going to sound like that. Regular drum sets are hard to tone to a scale so mostly you imitate the melody. But its very possible to tune them to a specific note and play on them like a toned instrument. Hell classical percussionist have a timpani which can be toned on the go with your foot and they retone it mid performance.
You give alot of interesting info (and alot of opinion too) but drums/percussion can absolutely be melodic. I have even played a drumset with the floor tom tuned to A and the others tuned to harmonize with it. There are lots ways drums/percussion can be melodic.
Drums actually have fundamental frequencies for each head. You have to precisely tune your heads in such a way that the tension matches around the rim of the head and creates a single fundamental with upper harmonics. If you look at a frequency analysis of a drum hit you can actually see the spikes at different harmonics of the fundamental. Drums absolutely have a note within each hit, it's just not the primary thing that we hear when a drum is hit and most of the time people don't tune their drums to specific notes. While the note within each drum is not dominant in what we hear, it exists and is especially noticable with softer hits.
As a person who's played a djembe for a few years, I am fully inclined to agree that drums can be used for so much more, in my time playing we would tell a story through changing where and how we hit the drum as well as sort of palm muting parts of it to varying degrees to make different sounds
She is a beast! Definitely changed my perspective of what drums can do. African talking drums are also awesome too! Its amazing how the instrument and culture around the instrument(s) can inspire someone (the drummer) to do new things.
OMG! I know exactly what she's talking about!!! My favourite is when the drums interact with other instruments whether its voice or the guitar. I'm African. Before she even mentioned the fact about Africa and drums I already made that reference. Drums truly are more than time keepers!
Keeping time? SHES KILLIN THOSE GHOST NOTES!!!! Im a fan.
its mind melting stuff my dude
Shes pretty spooky with all them ghosts around her.
Jaaaaaaaaaazzzzzzzzzzzz
how do you kill ghost notes though
For me, drums are as important if not more important than other instruments used in jazz music. Sooo important!
Jazz Vibe in a big band setting, I’d say you’re 100% right
No drums, no bass = no feel, no fun!
Drums are only there to keep time and Make a song sound Badass
Then Whiplash (the movie) got me interested in Jazz and Drums
I Listened to the Dire Straits - Sultans of swing The Vinyl Recording, and how the drums interact with the Guitar Chords.
Then i started to listen to Dave Brubeck's Take Five, especially the drum solo.
Then i listened to Julien Lage (Nocturne, I'll be seeing you. Live in LA) and how the drums work with the "Main Attraction".
Now i Love Jazz Drums.
Because they do what they are supposed to do (Keep time) and also complement the Music (Harmonically, like chords) and are capable of Solos. All at the same time.
It doesn't matter what you do. But when you listen to a Shit ton of Music. You'll eventually end up at Jazz.
it's not on guitars, it's not on drums either but on that sweet sweet saxophone solo(maybe guitars since i'm a guitarist LOL!)
“Important”
This woman is a genius ! She is able to make as many differnt sounds as she can from a single drummm !!! Bravooo ladyyyy
We try and tune all our drums and Perc in our records. You would be surprised the difference it makes in the final mix!
Walk off the Earth no shit
Love your covers!
You and literally everyone else.
not me, i dont 'try' to tune, i actually tune to actual true notes. no one i have seen does this. bozzio claims to, actually he just writes note names on his piccolo toms. but you need a tunebot or cherub drum tuner to do it, impossible by ear even with perfect pitch. and tuning is one thing, but keeping them in tune with themselves and the kit is not easy. you have to alter your playing, stick choice, drum size and head choice, etc. its not as simple as just tuning existing drums
Mike O dead
She's awesome. I think drums are often under utilized by artists. They're capable of so much more than just keeping time or creating a pulsing rhythm. Great video. Wish it was longer.
This is a great concept! What's helped my drumming become more melodic is learning to play the head to a bunch of tunes on piano.
Didnt know elen plays drums
Lou Phae +1
uh looks nothing like her
Calm down, feel the sarcasm.
David Perez facts
yes, thats why there are so many famous female drummers mattfrotii fuck!
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I got the chance to see Allison Miller live! She’s AMAZING!!! Got the chance to talk to her too and she was so kind!
Love this video :)
What’s great about this video is that the first example of melody “in the horns” is So What, where the melody is in the bass.
I like even more that the example for the melody on piano was the comping for cantaloupe island.
Five years later lol but horn is a generic term for any wind instrument in the jazz vernacular
it started out interesting, towards the end it felt more like a commercial though
that was my thought too.
^Exactly!^
Modern music is driven by technological improvements. The modern drumset itself was just a technological aid for drummers so they could do more. What is the 'commercial' of today could well end up being the standard of tomorrow. As modern musicians, to keep up with current and future tech is a must.
not commercial as in music that is easily sold to the masses, commercial as in an advertisement for "Sensory Percussion by Sunhouse". If they were talking about drum triggers in general, sure, but they made a point to underline the brand. Not even saying it is a "commercial", but that's how it ends up coming across.
I understand. I was speaking about commercials in the same 'advertising' sense as you. But I get your point, now that you made it clearer.
Did neil degrasse tyson narrate this
chi mcbride
Yeah, and Elen DeGeneres played the drums.
Lmao Elen and Neil 😂
YES! Thought I was the only one thinking this, because I've been watching lots of Neil videos lately, haha.
Bayu Abhiyoga 😂😂😂😂
Aight that's cool but can you play the licc ?
exactly what i was planning to do the next time i get on a drumset for the whole video
go back to your Dadam Neely
Well first learn smoke in the water
the l i c c
i'm glad as a drummer, that this meme is still alive.
Super cool! Music is a language with so many hidden secrets that I'm excited to continue to explore
That's a gorgeous kit she's got.
This is a very informative commercial for Sunhouse Technology
I’m not a percussionist, but drums can be so expressive especially in jazz
It's so much fun listening to her playing drums.
Shes very skilled.
She's such an incredible drummer !
My gosh Allison Miller is IN-SANE!
This guy's voice is pure jazz
That beat at 00:12 is sick
Ues lol 2yrs
i love this guys voice
This turned out to be a very well produced video, with a killer drummer showing the concepts. Really well done!
This is amazing and it reminded me of Charlie Parker’s approach to melody. He thought that melody is also all about rhythm.
Wow. That was awesome
Her explanations and demonstrations were perfect.
Amazing Explanation...
Wow... What a meaningful life. This was beautiful to watch.
When people say Drums can be played “melodically” and literally play a melody, I think that’s only one level of it. But the idea of playing melodically on Drums to me is just playing with melody in mind. Meaning, don’t just learn the Drum part and “keep time”, learn the melody, sing along to the melody as you play. This will make you play more “melodically”.
it’s everyone’s job in a group to be time keepers, it’s not the drummers job. If that was the case, why not just use a backing looped Drum track? Because Drums serve as an equal tonal contrast against the other instruments.
Great insight
Yes...voice and each musical instrument can be used as one, two or all three of the parts of music: melody, harmony or rhythm. Drums can be used melodically (the toms are pitched), just a the human voice can be used in a percussive manner (rapping, beatboxing).
Nice i agree
They give a good example of this in the video, when she switches to a groove that incorporates the contour of the melody
Omg I love that kit and the cymbals
But, those aren't rim shots. Those are rim clicks
i think they are rimjobs
wiremessiahhahahaha
NickN2
all closed/half closed strokes on kit are collectively called 'rimshots" by many people. Just like comedy rimshots does not refer to something specific. Yes, a snare rimshot is a specific half closed stroke, but the collective term for all rimshots, rimclicks, and crossticks are "rimshots".
If you have a better generic term, let's hear it. This is the term most pro drummers know.
wiremessiah most pro drummers come from a marching band/drumline background and it is taught in most if not all schools that rim clicks are specifically on the rim and a rim shot is when the stick meets the head of the drum and the rim of the drum at the same time to add a punch to the sheet of music so no. rim clicks and rim shots are not the same.its even written differently too
yes, but what is the collective name for all rimshots, rim clicks, and crosssticks. words sometimes have more than one meaning, it's allabout context.
jazz is everything
This is exactly what I needed. Thank you. Subscribed. 💯🥁🎼🎶
What an awesome video. Thanks for that. And Allison Miller kicks ass OMG.
I think that any fan of classic prog rock will have known this truth about how versatile drums can be. Look no further than ELP or King Crimson to hear some next level drumming.
Frood Not Prog but any CAN album is a good example as well. Especially the big four.
imo is a bit boring if you already hear jazz drumming
thanks for the recommendation bro
@@tynitty516
Hey, man, opinions are crazy things but thanks for dropping some artists' names for me to search now lol
Check out anything done by Virgil Donati. Best prog drummer out there!
Wow! My eyes & ears are mesmerized
Anyone heard of the genre 'indian classical music' ? .......these things had been established long back in this genre. In Indian classical concerts there is a specific section called 'sawal-jawab' meaning 'question-answer'.....where the melody instrumentalist plays a shorts melody sequence and in the next bar the percussionist plays an equivalent of the melody as a reply creating a beautiful effect.
Open bob
wow in Indonesian it's "tanya-jawab".
i've heard the same thing in other culture. playing percussion melodically isn't really a new thing
Open-bob
Not only that...(Hi, Abhishek ! Daisy here.)...a quick synopsis of the rhythmical /melodic range that you find in Indian classical music: tablas and the North Indian AND South Indian drums have beautiful traditional tonal contrasts in the various strokes on the drums. Also, just to speak about tabla, which is only ONE percussion instrument set..there are many different traditions, schools and styles of tabla. If you look at the field of tabla literature as a whole--that is to say, all the different compositions by many different masters of many different schools over the past few centuries...you find a range of literature that is at least as wide, extensive and varied as say, piano/harpsichord literature or violin/viola/cello literature. AND on top of that, the level of mathematical complexity and organization in tabla literature is far above the level found in Western classical music and somewhat more developed than jazz.
What you won't get much in of Indian music is harmony. Melody is far more developed in Indian music, but harmony, nope. Hey, enough is enough !
As a beatboxer, I'm always singing along in my head but it's always so much fun to bust out the vocal trumpet noise or sing with the basses.
I'm glad drum players can "sing" along with the melody too!
So cool. That chick is awesome
초등학생 때부터 최애 음악 장르가 재즈인데, 여러 채널 돌아다니며 재즈 플레이리스트 들어봐도 이렇게 제 취향에 딱 들어맞는 재즈만 쏙쏙 골라 엮어 플리 만드시는 분은 JAZZ IS EVERYWHERE님이 처음이에요. 재즈 플레이리스트는 단연 이 채널이 짱입니다,,ㅠㅠ 넘 좋아요🤍 올해 고3이 된 저는 주로 단어 외우기 싫을 때마다 이 채널 플리를 틀어놓고 외우곤 해요. 매번 덕분에 음악 너무 잘 듣고 있습니다! 좋은 기분을 선물해주셔서 감사해요~ 채널주님께 다가올 앞으로의 삶에 더 자주 행복한 순간이 있기를 기도할게요. 그럼 오늘도 좋은 하루 보내세요🍀
You have missed it. Other than keeping time, the drummer is contributing emotionally to the music by controlling the tension and release. The different sounds are different tensions - not melodies. When a drummer solos - the emotion of the tension has taken over the song. He is not creating a melody. That said, there are some songs that match a tuned drum to a melodic note. That is rare.
“Rare“ is very subjective. I myself dont know jazz that much so I cant say anything about that but look to irish music (specifically Bodhràn playing) and you find loads of people tuning their drum to D as must tunes are traditionally played in D, for the whistle players. Jim Higgins for example plays extremely melodic on the drum.
I know this is not the thing you are actually talking about but it might still be interesting
thats what i do exclusively. learned from studying tabla, and learned to tune kit to precise notes, creating a drone. only possible with a tunebot
different tensions on the drum, and different kinds of drum, produce different pitches. a melody is nothing more than a series of pitches in a rhythmic order. therefore the drummer is creating a melody.
well in a way, technically, although drums produce indefinite pitches,particularly two headed drums. and melody need not have rhythmic order. indian classical music has a section that is unmetered melody, and lacks coherent rhythm deliberately. the pitches usually thought of as melodic are definite scale notes
indefinite pitch is still pitch, and unmetered rhythm is still rhythm
If you were a Pearl Jam fan from 1992 through 1997 listen to how their drummer at the time - Dave Abbruzzese - played the drums. Idk if he’s jazz trained or not but his playing style was extremely melodic. And I think his ingenuity actually is responsible for quite a bit of their extreme success in that era. He was playing drums like no one else could and if you were listening you’d definitely hear it.
My jazz band teacher in high school told the drummer in our group that whenever he got a solo to try and use the melody. Really cool stuff.
"Africa, where drumming comes from"
Fucking what lol
I just love this approach to the drums. I've been using it since I was about 15.
Rim clicks, cross-stick, click...whatever. But rimshot? Come on.
Well, yes ... but not for this way of hitting the drum. I mean, it's fairly commonly used in the wrong way, that's my point. There "rimshot" sound is a loud, sharp hit (hence the name) that incorporates hitting both the center of the head and the rim with the stick at the same time. Watch here: ua-cam.com/video/BfR-R1yh_p4/v-deo.html
rimshot is generic term
What is that even supposed to mean. I just acknowledged that it's generic. But as with a lot of generic things, that doesn't make it right.
well then calling a generic facial tissue a 'kleenex' isn't 'right' either. so next time you hear someone call it that, i hope you are consistently pedantic and say 'kleenex? Come on. facial tissue, please'
So what does alison call crosssticking? No disrespect,just curious.😘🥁
I didn´t know this woman, she´s really great and her approach to the music is just right. You can talk with drums, you can sing, and you can play with felling and emotions to express yourself, that is the real meaning of art.;
The ultimate drum solo, as far as I'm concerned, it the one from Iron Butterfly's In A Gadda da Vida. It's a couple of minutes in and lasts maybe five minutes. I had to pull my car off the road after about 30 seconds.
Blake Olson look up 1500 or nothin Bam drum solo and be amazed
Id say its Dave Weckl's DrumFest performance in Montreal
Ultimate drum solo? In A Gadda da Vida? That's a laugh.
Go check out this solo by Tony Williams.
ua-cam.com/video/uFCJs_WvsG4/v-deo.html
And he's just warming up.
Or, check out Billy Cobham's solo on his album Total Eclipse. It's entitled Last Frontier.
Or, check out Trilok Gurtu, he's a guy that plays melody lines on rhythmic instruments probably more than anyone. He's usually playing many melody lines and rhythms. Here's a video of some ridiculous playing of his.
ua-cam.com/video/922LumI2ilo/v-deo.html&frags=pl%2Cwn
@@Oneness100 M'lady
For me, it's Michael Shrieve with Santana playing Soul Sacrifice Woodstock 69 is probably the most incredible solo I've ever heard, the mix between jazz, rock and latin music is just something out of this world. Also check out Max Roach, he's the master of melodic soloing. Elvin Jones, Tony Williams, Art Blakey to name a few, John Bonham's and Ginger Baker's playing is an amalgamation of all of these amazing musicians.
I play mostly Metal and Punk and I have huge respect for Jazz drummers. She's absolutely great at her art, maybe one day I'll be close to her level.
Papa Joe Jones another king of the melody on drums.
WaxDat8800 The God of Melody
Yaaasss 💯
Max Roach too
Papa John?
This is a beautiful understanding of drums. I am glad I got to see this and gain a more in depth understanding.
Thanks for the narrating Neil degrass Tyson
Melody in drums for all genres!!
nice sunhouse commercial...
That’s just amazing! I couldn’t imagine being so incredibly talented at something
Her precision makes me feel a bit weird
I'm so happy I found the first women on drums, who is playing so good and musical, and things I like. Amazing. Finaaaaallly!!!
Check out Karen carpenter she was drumming before her but she died super young
Really ??? Africa
Gaelic drumming
Slavic drumming
Native North/South American drumming
Greek/Mesopotamia drumming
Norse drumming
Asian drumming
All origins
we all came from africa, so all drumming originated there.
@@34672rr listen I respect the reply and understand your point but I truly don't believe that we all originated in Africa due to more Neanderthal variations having spanned from what is eastern Europe and South America. But thanks for the reply.
@@34672rr once again I respect the reply and the theory but after the migration from Africa the large majority went to what would become Persia as they migrated about 70 000 years ago aswell as the rest of Europe yet the earliest signs of drums go as far as only 40 000 years meaning that anywhere in the world could have spanned drums. Oh and I'm from Ireland with Norwegian, German, English and Scottish heritage.
They only mention African drumming because it's had the most influence on the origins of Jazz .
Yeah drumming didnt COME from Africa, its just a human thing. Im really into Indian drumming so when she said it came from Africa I had to disagree. BUT I agree with the comment above African drums very very heavily influenced American Jazz music
She is sooo talented, perfect pitch
Yeah but if we didn't hear the song first and after her playing, and instead she just played the "melody" of the song firstly, it wouldn't feel melodic.
doesnt matter. art is always relative. if you had never heard music before, it wouldn't feel melodic. in fact most people dont even know what melody means
@@34672rr Yeah in some cultures they enjoy atonal music because they don't listen to music we are used to listen. I don't say her "melodic" playing is bad, and I love playing the drums, I just think it is *not* as melodic😝
hard to say, up for interpretation, especially given the generic definition of 'musically satisfying sequence of notes'. we usually think of notes in a scale, but thats not always the case. in the end its just another semantic argument.
Hahaha wiremessiah always comes across as a total twat in the comments. Intentionally missing the point and then when get owns tries some word salad and claims others are playing with semantics and then when won't let it go claims others are OCD. You are totally correct. If we didn't hear the song first there's a good chance most people couldn't identify the title. Even the drummer in this video is not very confident if it was heard. If that melody was played by a trumpet or something like in "Name that Tune" most would guess it fairly quickly. Maybe it would sound clearer on drums which are actually tuned, like bongos or steel drums. Doesn't sound like much on standard drum kit because that's not what they were designed for, as is clear in this video. It's just an extra thing discovered on this instrument, just as people find many additional techniques for playing other instruments.
JJ Ryan
damn, you got issues, bro. Low self esteem probably.
This is so interesting. I built a set of drum triggers myself recently and have been developing a patch utilizing Max/MSP and Ableton to trigger melodic phrases on synths via a trigger to CV to MIDI conversion. This is seriously the next step for drummers and it is amazing to see all the other drum artists utilizing these same technological possibilities to create melody on percussion. We are making the future, not waiting for it. I am so glad to be alive right now!
Next thing they try to sell us is a device that will take the pitch out of the piano to turn it into drums.
If I want steel drums I play steel drums. Sometimes you WANT a non-melodic instrument: That's drums.
Kiryk Drewinski I died laughing
I really like the look of those sample triggers. Whether for jazz or not, I reckon I could have good fun with those, without making my drum kit pointlessly huge.
Rimshots.
Ikr like they aren't rim shots
Jenna Magee 💀 get outta hereeeee
@@jesseb1509 lol
ua-cam.com/video/mwjIdD0gbQ4/v-deo.html
@@jaedii7287 Thanks
her approach is so unique.. I want to hear more jazz records with drum centric melodies. I probably just don't listen to enough
Nothing Max Roach wasnt already doing in the 1950s.
Post production cant fool us all!
Max Roach? More loke Max Doach!
Didn't realise max roach used midi triggers? Hmmm
AudioBootlegs
He played well and was melodic... and harmonic.
ALOT of current drummers use triggers. 1000's Since the '80s. Musical Instrument Digital Interface nothing new. Check out Peter Sprague both he and his drummer(s) have been utilizing MIDI for decades... again nothing new here
That is NOT post-production. She uses sensors, Sun House sensors specifically. NOT triggers : sensors. Those are waaaaaaaaaay more advanced than triggers. Like you can map over 70 zones for one drum, and it reacts to all sort of little tiny things and can detect over 10 ways of hitting.
It IS new. If you listen closely while looking at the different part of the drums she's hitting, you would realize not a single standard MIDI trigger can do this. Finally, notice that those sensor are plugged with XLR plugs instead of jack... light-years ahead of a piezo "on/off - softer/harder" sensitivity.
But I guess you're the expert in the house :P
Jas Bataille
MIDI is performance data
Post production meaning how this video was edited versus recorded.
Nothing new here. Trying to use post production to make up for that doesn't fool everyone.
Another video prooving how great of a drummer she is! Such a fan!!!
This is why US is the greatest country in the world.
Yeah right, drumming makes the US the “greatest” in the world.
The Calendar Business exactly I much prefer Venezuela. What I’d give to live in Soviet Russia! I’d gladly waste away in the gulag for the glory of the state.
@@ratcum_1874 The sharpest razor in the entire world is not as edgy as you. Congratulations on becoming the best cesspool of human mistake.
*So it's like a fingerstyle in guitar and talking drum in a drum, that's cool!*
". . .African culture, where drumming came from. . ." come on, you're a professional musician, you know "drumming" was invented independently around the entire world. While chanting and singing may have been the earliest music, drums were the first instruments, and predate recorded history. You just took my favorite thing about drums, that they are completely universal and are practically built into our DNA, and made them a secret trick found by only one piece of humanity.
racist
What bitch?
Oh. That's because African drumming and music in general influenced western Jazz the most
Yes, but that's not what she said.
"African drumming traditions blending with western marching drum traditions resulted in second line drumming, which became the foundation for jazz drumming." is not the same as, "Drums are from Africa."
If you're going to teach people about drums, actually teach them, or at the very least, don't lie and hope people will just know what you should have said, and fill that in themselves.
@@minimonkey252
That when the fact that the channel that uploaded is literally called "Jazz Night in America"
what a drummer! wow!
“Africa where drumming came from” what a load of bullshit. Drums have been a part of most cultures from even their most primitive days. It’s not something exclusive to Africa. Europe and Asia and the americas all had their own style of drums.
wow she’s really talented
This was an interesting video. I had no idea they made something like that. She seems to be a pretty great drummer.
I wonder what she means by saying drumming came from African culture. Modern drumming or just the whole talking drums? I assume she just meant the talking drums because much older drums have been found in places outside of Africa, so I have doubts “drumming” in general originated there.
Kayla Colfax Talking drums are specifically from West Africa. I watched a video the other day of one being made. It was the drum the black gentleman was playing in this clip.
too2great8 Oh I see. I wasn’t sure if she just meant the talking drums or drums in general.
Kayla Colfax She meant in general. Come on Kayla, everybody knows Rock, Jazz, etc are so called Black music forms originally. They didn't create the music but borrow the instruments from other people.
It sounds like she meant all drumming, which is incorrect. Modern percussion in Western music is heavily influenced by African music traditions but percussion definitely did not uniquely originate in Africa
I thought the big deal with African drumming was polyrhythm not pitched drums.
Jazz is so fucking gold
I'm sorry, but you don't know what a rimshot is.
rimshot is a generic term, even if it has a specific meaning. like kleenex means any facial tissue, but also a specific brand
so you never heard of a comedy rimshot ? words sometimes have different meanings, bro. i know thats hard to comprehend, but give it the old college try.
haha, you are totally triggered. perhaps try debating a dictionary
also 'whales' is a term with both general and specific meaning. dolphins and porpoises are technically whales, but the 'true whales' are baleen whales. oh how the intricacies of language elude you. probably all the pent up emotion an ocd. don't allow yourself to be triggered so easily, grasshopper. not a good look.
Do you still not get the fact that a rimshot is different to a rim click? When someone says rimshot, they are referring to the specific action (rimshot), not the generic (hitting the rim in some form). The same way that crashing and riding on a cymbal are different, but both are hitting a cymbal. Intricacy does not equal confusion and double meanings. oh how the intricacies of language elude you. Probably don't lecture someone about the intricacies of language at the same time as forgetting to capitalise and missing out letters. not a good look.
Thank you so much for your contribution lady ♥️
Immediately triggered. THOSE ARE NOT RIMSHOTS.
Allen
it's a females version of rimshots.
you know- we give them a break and cheat reality- and then pretend they can do what men/professionals can do.
whoa there, Tiger. She was a beast on the kit. She can play for sure, but her usage of rimshot had me confused. Her talent didn't match up to her knowledge of playing lol
Allen
you contradict yourself.
shes not a beast on the kit.
she's good for a female
@@beggingkaos6199 Totally agree with you man, Jazz is one of the greatest and most complex forms of Art but listening to it doesn't unfortunately mean that u are such an intelligent person.. E un sessismo del genere denota il non aver capito un cazzo di Jazz
Uh... yeah yeah.. yeah, totally get you guys.
Melody is what the quadtom player in a drumline does most times. Great video!
Thank you for having a female in a very male dominated industry
not sure what they had to do with the female part, males didn't decide to dominate the industry with their big evil plan, males just gravitate more towards it.
The correct answer is, who gives a crap. You ideologically possessed person. She's is in this video because she's the one doing the exploration. Try to look at people as individuals, not genders, for a change. I'm so sick of identity politics and the lazy people that bear them to save themselves having to think. Why am I sick of it? Because it leads to Communism and tyranny.
fluid gender more likely
you could look at people as individuals if they were not opressed as groups. The offbalance of famous male/female musicians is huge and no, @jzonkel its probably not an elaborated big evil plan, but it's clearly a cultural fucked up shit. Unless you can justify genetically a "bigger gravitation towards music" in males than in females it's a cultural problem.
And a huge part of cultural problems such as these are lack of references; and precisely what this video is doing (having a female drummer) is giving this reference to 47k people who have watched it so far.
So I don't think there's anything wrong about Wul's comment.
JoseitoEdlVodao we need you to fight communism one UA-cam comment at a time
omg, drums are so awesome!!!
I don’t think she understands how vibrations and percussion works.
When a drum is hit, a sound is made without a particular note that can be made out. When a guitar string rings it plays a near infinite amounts of notes, however the note you hear is the strongest one out of the multiple notes interwoven into that sound. If you play a note on an instrument and then analyze it in the frequency domain you will see that what sounds like an E is actually multiple other notes within it, however you will find a large spike around frequencies that correlate with the note that E note.
Now what gives a drum sound a “drum sound” is that there is no large spike under one particular frequency, all the notes are of equal magnitudes. Therefore the perceived note is nothing, just a beat or percussive sound. That’s why you don’t need to tune your drums to a particular key to match the key on the song that’s played. There is no melody played when she hits the drums, it’s just you’re expecting to hear the melody and you correlate the two together in your mind. The drums are not a viable instrument to conduct melodies with.
Yes and no. Drums are a block of sound, especially snares. But thats if you buy rock drums. Tamtams are basically a toned instrument if you tune em sharp enough. A snare without the beads has a pretty sharp sound depending on how you tone it. Cymbals are blocky depending on type and if they shake but hitting the dome on most cymbals gives a very pure sound. Basically if you tone it like a classical percussion instrument its going to sound like that.
Regular drum sets are hard to tone to a scale so mostly you imitate the melody. But its very possible to tune them to a specific note and play on them like a toned instrument. Hell classical percussionist have a timpani which can be toned on the go with your foot and they retone it mid performance.
You give alot of interesting info (and alot of opinion too) but drums/percussion can absolutely be melodic. I have even played a drumset with the floor tom tuned to A and the others tuned to harmonize with it. There are lots ways drums/percussion can be melodic.
Drums actually have fundamental frequencies for each head. You have to precisely tune your heads in such a way that the tension matches around the rim of the head and creates a single fundamental with upper harmonics. If you look at a frequency analysis of a drum hit you can actually see the spikes at different harmonics of the fundamental.
Drums absolutely have a note within each hit, it's just not the primary thing that we hear when a drum is hit and most of the time people don't tune their drums to specific notes.
While the note within each drum is not dominant in what we hear, it exists and is especially noticable with softer hits.
Do you guys have prefrence in organology? I need it for my research, thanks for replying
Arif Rahman I’d be happy to help but I know the physics and science behind instruments.
As a person who's played a djembe for a few years, I am fully inclined to agree that drums can be used for so much more, in my time playing we would tell a story through changing where and how we hit the drum as well as sort of palm muting parts of it to varying degrees to make different sounds
Amazing! A style of playing we don't see often.
the single-drum sidestick stuff rocked my world. instant horizon expansion, thank you!
She is a beast! Definitely changed my perspective of what drums can do. African talking drums are also awesome too! Its amazing how the instrument and culture around the instrument(s) can inspire someone (the drummer) to do new things.
The visual aids in this video are bang on. Great playing too!
Wow. She is an amazing drumer.
I’m surprised by how much I learned from this video, I would love to see live musicians utilize these methods
OMG! I know exactly what she's talking about!!! My favourite is when the drums interact with other instruments whether its voice or the guitar. I'm African. Before she even mentioned the fact about Africa and drums I already made that reference. Drums truly are more than time keepers!
Fantastic stuff. Thank you!
Pretty cool...good to see drums and electronics getting more in sync.
She is insanely good
When i was in 11th grade i learned how to make a drum sing at band camp. Shes blowin up the spot
Wow new level of drumming.
WOW that was super cool
she is crazy good, wow
Wonderful !!!
Love love. You inspire me to create more.