Episode #35: Reclaiming Learning: Breaking Free from the Education System

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  • Опубліковано 22 лис 2024
  • In this episode, Drs. Derek and Laura Cabrera of Cornell University take a hard look at the dissatisfaction with the education system and why it’s failing teachers, parents, administrators, and especially students. They explore how to separate the concept of schooling from true learning, inspiring a lifelong love for discovery and self-improvement.
    Beyond personal growth, they share an urgent call to action: how can we give educators and students the tools and support they desperately need to thrive? Whether you're a parent, a teacher, or someone hungry to learn, this episode will ignite your passion for creating a better future-inside and outside the classroom.
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  • @tonymarkatos3987
    @tonymarkatos3987 15 годин тому +1

    I agree that teaching how to organize info (vs just learning facts) is key. I further believe that teaching how to hands-on do systems thinking is often key to learning how to organize info. How do we handle the complexity of hundreds of concepts in this teaching? By teacher interaction with the student on a sample project to hands-on do the most core of tasks (especially breakdown of interrelationships and parts) - and then using that core example model to, as needed, "hook-out" to the wider spectrum of concepts.

  • @md9418
    @md9418 2 дні тому

    Hey Drs Cabrera! Lengthy Question Guy Here - I am a beginner, familiarizing myself with DSRP, and doing what Dr. Laura suggested about practice. I try to practice as often as I can (using Plectica, or mentally) to burn the neurons.
    One thing you said that I found very intriguing in this podcast was about CAD and how agents follow simple rules to create emergent outcomes. My question is, if I were looking at an intractable problem at work, how might DSRP mapping help me understand or identify spoken/unspoken rules?
    Typically when I'm done with a DSRP map, I may have a much better mental model of a situation, but I haven't been able to identify rules governing the system. While I understand that rules can be seen as either a D,S,R, or P... my question simplified is, where/when/how in my DSRP mapping practice might I begin to think about and identify the rules that govern the system?
    To reiterate, I am a beginner, so apologies if this isn't relevant - please feel free bludgeon me with shame if I am doing something incorrectly/misunderstanding! Thanks for the podcast and help.

    • @peterstrous2092
      @peterstrous2092 2 дні тому

      "While I understand that rules can be seen as either a D,S,R, or P.." - aren't the rules non-explicit in between the DSRP components, and isn't it that playing/exploring with DSRP one might be able to discover them? DSRP enabling us to get to a deeper understanding not possible from simply considering the DSRP components by themselves? Isn't it considering all DSRP options supplying us with the emergent properties not visible from any of the component perspectives?

    • @md9418
      @md9418 2 дні тому

      @@peterstrous2092 I apologize I phrased that awkwardly which I think lead to your response. What I was getting at, was closer to your last question. Not so much seeing DSRP as separate, but how the interplay between DSRP creates rules of a system.

    • @peterstrous2092
      @peterstrous2092 2 дні тому

      " I try to practice as often as I can" - perhaps of use to you, I see a 2 stage process: 1. use DSP to find perspectives on complex systems, 2. identify R, the relationships and subsequently any emergent properties that exist.. DSRP give you the reductionist perspective, identifying the emergent properties give you the holistic perspective. The most likely truth (science, complexities) needs to consider all observations (information) from all possible perspectives. Perspectives is around relationships between information units.

    • @md9418
      @md9418 2 дні тому

      @@peterstrous2092 thank you!! I’ll give this a try. Thank you for your responses!

    • @peterstrous2092
      @peterstrous2092 2 дні тому +1

      @@md9418 I do hope there is something useful for you in my comments. Use DSRP to identify the mechanics of systems that drive its outputs from the inputs. The focus should be on these mechanics in order to understand the system's behaviour (the holistic perspective) but achieving this requires DSRP to identify all the relevant required details (the reductionist perspectives). As Derek identified, we need all perspectives in order to make sense and not fall for evaluation bias.
      Related perhaps: we humans think in heuristics, short cuts. Our natural way of thinking invites evaluation bias. When it comes to complexities, short cuts cut short the outcomes.
      DSRP in a way challenges our default thinking, our prejudged way of thinking, our beliefs that we rely on. From my perspective, we humans have an easy-way-out bias.

  • @peterstrous2092
    @peterstrous2092 2 дні тому +1

    at 43:00 "Look at what we teach in schools about nutrition" - Comments: 1. look at the distinctly reductionist way we educate our nutritionists....The question of where on the OMNIVORE spectrum of 99% plants to 99% animal food a human should eat for optimum health and longevity is not considered. 2. look at the nutrition information doctors receive: zero or close to zero. As if nutrition and health are not related..... and all this while atherosclerosis, the essential ingredient of heart disease, can be reverted on a fully plant based diet (Nathan Pritikin, Caldwell Esselstyn, Dean Ornish).