UPDATE! A Note from Cannondale - The team bikes reportedly have an average weight of 7.4kg (some are lighter/some are a little heavier). 7.78kg mentioned on screen is for a systemsix, but some imagary depicts an EVO which is actually lighter.
16kg with the bike lock, old mtb bike XL size, needed for crappy roads where I'm from. I would absolute love to try a 7kg extremely responsive bike, just the energy difference needed to put my elephant of a bike into motion at a crossing compared to a pro bike would be insane.
Just like when I went from my lug frame Dawes to a Cervelo R2. Still got the Dawes!!!! Piss ant roads around here Reynolds 531 drives it like a champ. Weight Weenees at the Fondo may turn the nose up at my R2 but then they see the Dawes at the after ride beer garden I get approval and/or a pass!!! Woman wants a eTap Cube to match her Nissan Cube............hates the long throw to shift gears..............maybe for 50th bday??????
Sounds like a great bike 👌 These lightweight race machines are really something 🙌 Do you think we all need the latest and greatest though? We put this to the test with a willing amateur 👉 ua-cam.com/video/XLvjUEeT_-w/v-deo.html
Loved the closing statement ❤. Many of us have owned many different types of bikes in our lifetime (so far), but we will remember most fondly the bike/s that brought us the most joy.
This makes me feel so good .... just bought a new bike and decided to furnish it with the "lesser/heavier" groupset which only added 312g but saved me €1800 .... I'm OK with that
I bought a topstone 4 alloy (10,6kg) and converted it to GRX 600 with Elite Wheels G45 CS and I am quite happy with the 8.8kg, excluding the pedals and the lights.
One caveat: using the same Park Tool scale, I've found that bikes can vary by up to 0.5 kg on successive weighings, due to amount of arm shake, location of the placement of hooks (ideally weight should be evenly distributed on the two arms), wind, and other factors. Spoke with Calvin at Park Tool about this 3 years ago, and he said the best way is to weigh the bike with the scale in a clamp, or if handheld, take averages. He also said that bike weight doesn't really matter that much (unless there's a big difference).
You just gotta hang it with its strap from a very sturdy (i.e. not flexing) place. It's very consistent that way. Even clamping to workstand doesn't work cause with the weight of the bike whole thing flexes.
Zero interest in a 8kg £12000 that costs me more time and/or money to maintain! So that’s almost 2.5kg, and yes: 12.5 watts extra up Alpe D’Huez is a lot of extra work that I don’t feel like paying £12k for the privilege of having to gain those extra watts 😂😂😂
2021 Orbea orca omr size 47 disc. changed most of the stock parts except frameset with aluminium steerer carbon fork weight 7.3kg with 2 bottle cages, computer mount and Speedplay pedal. Total cost 5k usd. Still can be lighter as less than 7kg if I would spend another 3-5k for top end frameset.
26 seconds is a MASSIVE amount of time over AdH! Even half of that is quite significant. If you're performing at the top level, 4 watts is quite a big deal to add on to your threshold.
Exactly. Weird of them do downplay that difference. The Giro was decided by 14 seconds over 3 weeks. The 2024 TDF is going to have more than 50,000 meters of climbing this year. There has to be a balance between weight and aerodynamics.
…. Yeah but EF would not race up any mountain stage on a System Six. This whole video is pointless. Teams use different wheel sets for climbing stages….
@@dominicbritt Indeed, they do change up their equipment obviously, am not sure if the current supersix is currently 6.8kg. Just addressing the point made that weight doesn't make a difference. It certainly does! 4 watts is a solid few weeks of gains when your threshold is over 400 watts.
Aero times are a lot better going downhill, so its not all a loss and aero advantages will also take away some of the the 26 sec going uphill, just as the deeper rims with larger tires may reduce the rolling resistance. You cannot isolate one factor from all others if you want a fair comparison. I don't do the "superman", but I still "outrace" everyone on the steeper descents (>6%) without touching my pedals just by taking an somewhat radical body aero position, with my deep wheels and narrow aero bars (and I'm just a go lucky amateur).
@@meibing4912 Not a WT pro and would typically not rush the descents and prefer not risking my life, just aiming for climbing KOMs for fun! Be careful out there. Those sound like modifications more than capable to be made on a bike that was manufactured five years ago, while still able to keep the bike at or even below 6.8 kg.
@GCN Surely you’re missing something when they were using the “ Aero trumps weight over a TDF stage” counter argument. If they were riding solo or in a small group i tend to agree, but the majority of GC contenders will be in the peloton getting the big draft and even when slightly more exposed when they string it out, they will be nicely tucked middle or back of the of the teammates wheels. Surely the lightest bike with the most aero features they can get away with will seem them unleash the watts saved in the pack when finally exposed on a climbs where aero doesn’t have as much effect.
Please don't be returning to the weight loss at any cost. Back in the late 1980s, I remember when some people were obsessed with reducing the overall weight of the bike. To the point where brake levers were drilled out to such an extent that structural integrity was at a bare minimum. Cranks were thinned and drilled. Frames were denuded of paint and highly polished. Stems (quill stems back then) were drilled out. Seatposts were (judiciously) drilled out. In fact, anything that wasn't important in making the bike go, was drilled out to reduce weight.
I have a dogma f10 rim brake. Aero bike. deep aero wheels, 38cm aero handlebars, wide tyres, and I am still under the 6.8kg limit. So that’s aero and light weight, this is the fasted setup period.
@@gcntech in every setting. At 6.7 kg and full aero setup l believe it’s faster then the new dogma f, this is why I haven’t upgraded, and upgrade in my mind, should be faster then before, so what’s the point in spending £14000
Colnago v3rs rim brake, tadeg pogacar all time FAVOURITE bike, he won 2 TDF. V4rs too heavy. My colnago V3rs rim brake weighs 6.82kgs with ultegra di2 12speed with 2x bottle cages and garmin mount, super responsive and agile.
12kg alloy bike with alloy wheels and Microshift group set. Only decent part is my specialized power saddle and gp 5000s. Cost me $700 usd new. Does the job but boy do I hate it haha
Hahaha you don't want to hate your bike, a bike that you love will make you want to ride more - it doesn't need to be super high end just as long as you want to get riding 🙌
Excellent episode, makes me feel better about my 2020 Supersix Evo being just under 8Kg 😊 although my specialised crux gravel bike is almost the same weight as some of these bikes 😮😮😮 is all the modern tech worth it past tubeless rims and decent 11 speed gears 😊
8,2kgs! BMC Roadmachine SLR5 with 105DI2 and Alloy Wheels and tubeless setup. My first proper Road Bike, i love it and all around, it just cost about 3200€ last year
#askgcntech Alex suggested in that video to switch from a 28mm tire to a 23mm in order to save weight. But what about the rolling resistance? If I remember correctly Josh from Silca said in one of his videos that a Continental GP5000 compared to GP4000 saves you the same amount of energy on a 10% climb like losing 0,5kg. So weight weenies should also be rolling resistance weenies. Would be interesting to know wich tirewith actually is the fastest uphill.
2006 Felt F55 with updated cassette and rear derailleur to help my climbs (which however added weight), alu wheels and new Ultegra rim brakes, only weight saving upgrade were TPU tubes, in total 8.6kg with bottle cages (carbon ones, another weight saving option :D).
You should make a video about bike/component brands that are not in the worldtour. That would be interesting. To compare the top brands that made the cut and the rest that are good but didn't quite get in.
Alloy GT ZR3.0 with 9-speed 105, 9.7kg with pedals, bottle cages and pump bracket. NZ$600, ages ago. Spent a couple of grand on a secondhand 2020 Roubaix three years back but thought handling was too slow on steep, twisty, hilly descents, so sold it again. Prob a mistake but I'm still getting to top of climbs ahead of most of my mates on my GT. It works just fine with 28mm tyres, waxed chain and a 34-tooth cassette so I'm reining in the desire for something enviable. For style points I've got a gleaming trad Columbus ELOS steel bike, handmade in Lombardi, which I built up with alloy Campag. It's heavier but light in spirit.
11kg of city bike! bought it at the beginning of the pandemic to commute rather than riding trains/buses, we became buddies for life. I just did my first 100km ride with it
My main ride is a Pinarello Dogma F10 in matte black, with full Campagnolo Super Record EPS (non-wireless), Bora 45 WTO with Vittoria N EXT tubeless, Wahoo power pedals, Selle Italia 3d printed saddle....8 kg on the nose.
7.5kg XL Canyon Endurace rim brake with Ultegra 6800 and alloy hoops. Cost me £1700 8 years ago. Would have to spend at least £8k to get a new bike at that weight these days.
2021Tarmac SL6 52 with c38s rims, carbon bars, Pzeros w/ tpus tubes, cut fork and seat tubes to the minimum which is exactly my fit😅 aaaaand still with my original 105 11speed weights 7.9 for me who rides just on weekends I see it quite nice and enough😊. Also considering when having to change my drive train when worn out and my seat I could still lower it to 7.6 nearbys is more than enough for me
These days there is a push for wider tires. The claim is that you will be faster and more comfortable. However this is all based on pseudo-science because the surface type and rider weight dictates the tire width and pressure. It's simply a way to kill off rim bikes without mentioning the word 'brake'. I have a ten year old alloy bike with light-ish alloy wheels that weighs about the same as a $10,000 pro level aero bike. Yes, I prefer disk brakes but not the weight, so for me I'd rather just have slightly worse brakes and narrower tires on my summer bike spend a lot less, $3000 gets me a mechanical rim brake bike that's as light as a $10,000 disk brake bike. I'd rather have that other $7000.
As for my bikes I have no clue what any of my bikes have weighed - ever... But I did (do) like riding them all and they have become more and more aero and comfortable as well as faster for sure!
Aethos pro with Alpinist wheels, butyl tubes; 7.2 kg with bottle cages and wahoo mount. Pretty reasonable weight, no aftermarket light parts, and it’s an extraordinary ride. I’ll try tpu tubes next summer, will maybe gain a little more than a hundred grams…
3:57 Winning it's second mountain top finish so far this season and one from a break-away beating a Cervelo is proving that the Van Rysel is a value all-rounder.
There are so many race day variables at play that trying to rank bike weights is like trying to hit a moving black target on a foggy moonless midnight.
My bike is an Orbea Orca OMX 2023 fitted with Ultegra 12s Di2. Zipp 404 Firecrest wheels. Zipp Aero SL70 handlebar and in a size 60 weighs in at 7.7kg with pedals, cages and mount. No flashy saddle. also duo power meter pedals from Assioma.
Around 13:50 Ollie suggests Speedplay Nano pedals over Shimano Dura-Ace pedals for weight savings. However, it is the pedal *system* (pedals + cleats) weight that matters. I doubt that with a full accounting that Speedplay represent much, if any, weight savings advantage.
I'll let you know the differences shortly. My 13 year old Felt AR4 was written off a month ago after I was hit by a motorist. Its replacement is a Cervelo R5 hopefully arriving next week. The Felt was under 8Kg with HED 60mm wheels. Will be interesting to see what the R5 will be!
Great video! excellent hearing the weights. Too bad the teams are locked into sponsoring heavy components. Seems like they are trying to use what we would, eg. clincher / tubeless vs. tubular, Dura-Ace pedals…
This is actually quite easy. Bike design optimizes efficient energy transfer. As you go faster, you prioritize aerodynamic loss. First order is rider position and power output (comfort). Riders have become much more athletic from training, fueling etc.. so w/kg has gone up in recent decades and hence the ability to go faster… so bike design prioritizes aero. Climbers are shielded and they are free to ride lite bikes on their team.. the others ride fast.
Twinsix gravel bike that I use as a touring/commuting bike - weighs around 11.5 kg without stuff for work and with a front dynamo hub. More like 13 to 15 kg when commuting with all my stuff.
Maths question for Ollie: On the mountain rides, assuming up and down, if you have a slightly heavier but more aero bike, won't you make up most/some of the lost climbing time by having higher descent speed?
Built up a 22' Allez Sprint frame for crit racing, just priced it up and got to about $2880 USD. weighs in at 9kg with 105 group, vision crank and 55 wheels, deda stem, and control tech bars. Got all items except for bar and stem either new take off prices or reduced new price though. Felt like an accomplishment as the factory built and tax would be somewhere at $3300 with stock 105 and alloy wheels.
My SL8 S-WORKS TARMAC complete weighs 6.72 kilos ride away. Includes Carbon Bottle Cages, Computer Mount, Time Xpro 15 Pedals & Titanium Ceramic OSPW Jockey Wheels . 54cm 40mm wide Roval Rapide Bars & Includes the original Roval Rapide CLX Aero Wheelset 51/60 with TPU tubes 11/34 cluster Dura Ace Di2 12 Speed Groupset. Had my Bike Shop in Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺 remove the Sram Red Groupset. Obviously the frame was in the sensational Red Paint 🎨 Scheme. My SL7 S-WORKS 54CM TARMAC same set up weighs 6.83 kilos with FSA VISION ONE METRON Carbon Cockpit.
As someone who is roughly the same height as Connor, it would be very interesting tho know the weight of his bikes over the years as compared to smaller riders on the same team for whom the setup/component choices were more likely optimised.
I have a custom built carbon bike that is a dream, light, aero....... Built up a Ti bike with fatter tires this year. Crushed all of my previous KOM's!
I have a 2021 Tarmac SL6 Pro that I bought 2ndhand for $3,000 and weighs 8kg. It doesn't have any special light parts per se just Ultegra componentry and DT Swiss carbon wheels. This is heavier than my old rim brake SL4 which I think was around 7kg. That did have an FSA SL-K carbon crankset which was very light.
Interesting to compare the watts saved for weight to the Tour Magazine aero data. The S5 and Aeroad are at around 203 watts while bikes like the Tarmac are at about 208 or higher. So the all around bikes never manage to close the aero penalty. Other thoughts, this makes the Foil even more impressive. Too bad the new Factor didn’t get weighed.
$2.8k USD for a road bike I'm glad to say my Pinarello Paris weighted 8.7kg after only upgrading cheap alternatives of 44 carbon Hunt wheels and a carbon sqlab saddle. While still having the basic stock aluminum bar and stem and an entry level shimano 105 mechanical groupset! Which will be my next upgrades hoping to shave down to 8kg or below. So far $4k well spent I must say!
Factor Ostro VAM 7.6kg size 54 with head unit, bottle cages, sram red etap axs (race setup) 60mm Black Inc Wheels, TPU inner tubes and Pirelli P Zero Classic 28mm
They said they compensated for size and so on? Else you would have to measure the exact same size of bike, with or without bottles and so on, but I goess that is not possible.
If the teams have two bikes to choose from, I’d be fine with the Aero bike being a bit heavier, which seems to be the case with Cervelo and Cannondale.
You guys should do an episode on how to lighten bike weight for us, common folks. The restriction - have to set a realistic cost:savings ratio, e.g cannot be more than 10 US$ per 1W savings or 10 US$ per 250 gm savings. I sure you guys can come up with a better limit.
This is surprising. My V4RS with normal Dura Ace and no Carbon TI custom stuff weighs in at 7.00kg flat in a size 510. I’m 180 so not tiny. Also have got an alu deda superbox stem with carbon bar instead of a lighter full one piece option. I also thought the Enve wheels were weighted competitive to the Cadex alternative I have.
I have a 2018 Giant TCR Maglia Rosa Edition (SM) with full SRAM Red mechanical that I bought for $3800 from someone and it weighs 14.6 lbs. On the other hand, my 2022 BMC Team Machine SLR01 (47cm) with full Dura Ace Di2 cost me about $9800 and weighed 16.9 lbs. My 2023 Cervelo Aspero 5 (48cm) which I use for both road and gravel now, with full SRAM Force AXS, cost me about $6500 and weighs 19 lbs. My top end speed on all of them is very similar but climbing I'd rather have the Giant and on flats, the BMC just based on overall response, but the Cervelo does everything just fine.
My 56cm bike is 7.6kgs with pedals. Is rim brake mechanical, and cost NZ$2500(40% off on special) but then bought lighter 50mm wheels for ~$1000, new seat, seatpost, new longer stem for around $600. So around NZ$4100 all up => US$2500 give or take.
I own a Winspace SLC 2.0, disc brakes, Dura Ace Di2 12 speed, 40mm deep wheels, with bottle cages and pedals (Assioma), I am at 6.6kg...you just need to do the "leap of faith" and directly purchase from Chinese brands
26" Hed Jet Ironman wheels with Continental Competition GP tubs (also 26" 😁) Profile Airwave bars Middleburn RS4 cranks 👌 Speedplay titanium (pre UK release, from a Hong Kong trade show 😎) Flite titanium saddle USE titanium seat post Ultegra gears, Chorus brakes c. £3k (30 years ago) and worth it for all the triathlon bike course records I broke. Now I'm fat and 50 😋
As well as the Dave Lloyd I also have a custom built Chas Roberts MTB a couple of years older (about 28lbs 😩)... It wasn't until 5 years ago I realised they were Chas & Dave! 🤣🤣
I love Cannonade bikes, always have. Hate their company/ customer service. But it's pretty wild to think that they are riding a +17lb bike in professional races. Yes I'm american so the Kilo's confuse me and I had to get the google calculator out. Hydraulic disc brakes and electronic group sets sure do take a toll on the weight.
It's worth noting that all the Specialized teams have access to the Aethos but none of them have used that bike for mountain stages. It would be well under the UCI limit.
time for a GCN challenge then, put a model of the same bike from 2014 up against 2024 version, ride at 250 watts on a long enough uphill and see which is quicker
When I ride with my saddlebags on, it probably weighs around 16 to 18kg. Its a gravel commuter bike mixed. I still average around 27kph on tarmac so I am happy with it.
my 56 tarmac sl8 was 7.2kg without pedals, bidons or head unit. i "skimped" on the wheels (CLII instead of CLXII), drivetrain (new sram force), and saddle. i imagine you could get to the legal limit if you really tried, and it seems like bora is there or thereabouts. i think the difference between the rapides and the alpinist wheelset is probably the majority of the difference between quickstep and bora.
5.7 kg Canyon Ultimate CFR medium size is my lightest bike. Dura-Ace R9200, 2x12, disc brakes, 45mm aero wheels, tubeless 26mm tires and a bar tape. edit: I spent additional 7000 euro to get there. By selling some old components I would say that the price of the bike could be around 13500 euro.
Mine and my son's bikes ARC8 Escapee Disc, Ultegra Di2, Mavic 45 mm tubeless wheelset, 8.0 kg Specialized Tarmac SL6 Pro rim brake, Ultegra Di2. In the lightest veriosn with 990 grams Chinese tubular wheelset 6.9 kg including pedals, water bottle cages, Garmin sensors, computer mount and powermeter Flat racing version on Roval CLX 50 mm tubular wheelset, around 7.2 kg My old 2013 Specialized Roubaix SL3 with my alloy Campaq Neutron Ultra wheelset, mix of Campaq parts and triple cransket 7.5 kg without pedals Our old Tarmac SL4 Expert on Campaq Chorus mechanical and Zonda wheelset was under 7 kg. What we really should have is weights of bike without wheelsets. That would be best starting point for comparisons.
a 2012 Bianchi infinito with carbon Campagnolo and FSA components and shallow-ish 35mm wheels is just around 8.00kg, and I paid 1000€ for a used one 7 years ago, so not too bad :)
Planet x Pro Carbon with Sram Hydraulic 7.2KG - Changed wheels to 50mm Carbon with GP5000tyres - Carbon Seat Post, Carbon Saddle, Carbon Bars, Carbon Pedals, Carbon Cages, Size is 50cm
Is no one gonna talk about the fact that the Supersix Evo (15k+ bike) weighs in at almost 8kg. that‘s insane to me. whats the weight of their heavier bike then?
Trek Emonda SL Disc (2018), Sram Force Axs, Black Inc Integrated Bar, Lun Hyper D45 wheelset, tubeless with entry level Time pedals - 7.8kg £1,300 with pedals, mount, cage
Alex said at the end; 'today's bikes are a much better package than the bikes of 5 to 10 years ago'. 10 years ago yes. 5 years ago, not so sure. For example the Bianchi of 2019 with rim brakes and Di2. Not sure that that bike would cost you more than 3 watts as Ollie was talking about with weight. Be great to see that test 😎
1% drop in weight (800g on 7.5kg bike + 70kg rider) = 26seconds or 4 watts on alp d,huez? Time to go ride up some hills and shift the remaining Christmas weight
2018 SW Tarmac SL6, mechanical dura ace, EE brakes, aero handlebar, 50mm hunt wheels and including pedals and garmin mount 6.8kg (15lb). Built/updgraded over several years so not sure on exact total $.
6.87kg no pedals, but with bottle cages, light/computer mounts. - 49cm 2020 Scott Addict RC 15 frameset, Syncros carbon cockpit, Mechanical dura-ace r9100, hunt 44UD, s-tubo tubes, 28mm GP5000 clincher (the lighter ones with the printed flag, not the new pigs), selle Italia SLR boost Superflow carbon railed.
SystemSix 56 cm with Ultegra Di2 12sp, Power2Max PM, aero chainring, 60mm Hollowgram wheels, GP 5000s, SpeedPlay pedals, 140mm ENVE stem. 8.35kg. Not bad considering that I put zero effort into making it light.
Something you guys should have mentioned as a disclaimer is that, every one of those bikes are different sizes which affects the base weight you guys are taking by around 200-400g.
Specialized Tarmac Comp disk = 19.1 lbs/$2,200....Tommasini Super Prestige = 20.2lbs/ $1,500 .... Specialized Tri cross =30lbs/$1,600 ....Specialized M4 Mountain = 25lbs/$900.......I wonder what the average and mean will be to all the responses you get ???? Let us know
UPDATE! A Note from Cannondale - The team bikes reportedly have an average weight of 7.4kg (some are lighter/some are a little heavier). 7.78kg mentioned on screen is for a systemsix, but some imagary depicts an EVO which is actually lighter.
56 cm frame Specialized Allez Sprint 2017 rim break, 7.95 kg… paid about $2000 and loving it!
The Allez spring is a classic bike! Crit racing dream machine 🙌
i'm on a 2023 TCR Advanced SL, with mechanical Dura Ace 9100, rim brakes, Roval CLX 32/50. All in, it's 6.25kg.
Wow! That's one light weight bike 🤯 How does it ride?
Goodness, this sounds like a dream hill climb machine 🤤
Dream bike man!
16kg with the bike lock, old mtb bike XL size, needed for crappy roads where I'm from. I would absolute love to try a 7kg extremely responsive bike, just the energy difference needed to put my elephant of a bike into motion at a crossing compared to a pro bike would be insane.
Just like when I went from my lug frame Dawes to a Cervelo R2. Still got the Dawes!!!! Piss ant roads around here Reynolds 531 drives it like a champ. Weight Weenees at the Fondo may turn the nose up at my R2 but then they see the Dawes at the after ride beer garden I get approval and/or a pass!!! Woman wants a eTap Cube to match her Nissan Cube............hates the long throw to shift gears..............maybe for 50th bday??????
Sounds like a great bike 👌 These lightweight race machines are really something 🙌 Do you think we all need the latest and greatest though? We put this to the test with a willing amateur 👉 ua-cam.com/video/XLvjUEeT_-w/v-deo.html
@@gcntech most people don't need the latest and greatest, but as for myself, i do want it, just cant afford it.
Loved the closing statement ❤.
Many of us have owned many different types of bikes in our lifetime (so far), but we will remember most fondly the bike/s that brought us the most joy.
This makes me feel so good .... just bought a new bike and decided to furnish it with the "lesser/heavier" groupset which only added 312g but saved me €1800 .... I'm OK with that
The alpacine bike on the picture is an ultimate
They had both there
What an interesting take on the spelling of 'Alpecin'.
Alpaca what?
Alphacine
Alpaca
I bought a topstone 4 alloy (10,6kg) and converted it to GRX 600 with Elite Wheels G45 CS and I am quite happy with the 8.8kg, excluding the pedals and the lights.
8.8kg is great! 👌 Especially for a gravel bike that you can throw around!
One caveat: using the same Park Tool scale, I've found that bikes can vary by up to 0.5 kg on successive weighings, due to amount of arm shake, location of the placement of hooks (ideally weight should be evenly distributed on the two arms), wind, and other factors. Spoke with Calvin at Park Tool about this 3 years ago, and he said the best way is to weigh the bike with the scale in a clamp, or if handheld, take averages. He also said that bike weight doesn't really matter that much (unless there's a big difference).
ParkTool scale is SHIITE (would hambini say)
the bikes weighed were also not the same size across all, nor did they have the same wheel depth setup for the same parcours
Absolutely, scale needs to be on a fixed platform, not hand held
You just gotta hang it with its strap from a very sturdy (i.e. not flexing) place. It's very consistent that way. Even clamping to workstand doesn't work cause with the weight of the bike whole thing flexes.
is the pen working @@czeckson74
Supersix Evo Black Inc 2016, size 56. 5.7 kg, probably worth less than £2000 in today’s market. I’ll most certainly be keeping it!
Zero interest in a 8kg £12000 that costs me more time and/or money to maintain! So that’s almost 2.5kg, and yes: 12.5 watts extra up Alpe D’Huez is a lot of extra work that I don’t feel like paying £12k for the privilege of having to gain those extra watts 😂😂😂
Todays bikes are a step backwards
I don’t care how much my bike weighs. The UCI has no power over me.
For this weight it's probably with tubulars and not tubeless, am I right? So more like 6kg for it to be comparable.
@@tt-tk9076 Correct: I am not a pro. But I did ride this bike as a pro 2016-2019, and I have receipts for that 👍
2021 Orbea orca omr size 47 disc. changed most of the stock parts except frameset with aluminium steerer carbon fork weight 7.3kg with 2 bottle cages, computer mount and Speedplay pedal. Total cost 5k usd. Still can be lighter as less than 7kg if I would spend another 3-5k for top end frameset.
Sounds like a great bike! Would you like make the bike lighter again? 🪶
26 seconds is a MASSIVE amount of time over AdH! Even half of that is quite significant. If you're performing at the top level, 4 watts is quite a big deal to add on to your threshold.
Exactly. Weird of them do downplay that difference. The Giro was decided by 14 seconds over 3 weeks. The 2024 TDF is going to have more than 50,000 meters of climbing this year. There has to be a balance between weight and aerodynamics.
…. Yeah but EF would not race up any mountain stage on a System Six.
This whole video is pointless.
Teams use different wheel sets for climbing stages….
@@dominicbritt Indeed, they do change up their equipment obviously, am not sure if the current supersix is currently 6.8kg. Just addressing the point made that weight doesn't make a difference. It certainly does! 4 watts is a solid few weeks of gains when your threshold is over 400 watts.
Aero times are a lot better going downhill, so its not all a loss and aero advantages will also take away some of the the 26 sec going uphill, just as the deeper rims with larger tires may reduce the rolling resistance. You cannot isolate one factor from all others if you want a fair comparison. I don't do the "superman", but I still "outrace" everyone on the steeper descents (>6%) without touching my pedals just by taking an somewhat radical body aero position, with my deep wheels and narrow aero bars (and I'm just a go lucky amateur).
@@meibing4912 Not a WT pro and would typically not rush the descents and prefer not risking my life, just aiming for climbing KOMs for fun! Be careful out there. Those sound like modifications more than capable to be made on a bike that was manufactured five years ago, while still able to keep the bike at or even below 6.8 kg.
@GCN Surely you’re missing something when they were using the “ Aero trumps weight over a TDF stage” counter argument.
If they were riding solo or in a small group i tend to agree, but the majority of GC contenders will be in the peloton getting the big draft and even when slightly more exposed when they string it out, they will be nicely tucked middle or back of the of the teammates wheels. Surely the lightest bike with the most aero features they can get away with will seem them unleash the watts saved in the pack when finally exposed on a climbs where aero doesn’t have as much effect.
Please don't be returning to the weight loss at any cost. Back in the late 1980s, I remember when some people were obsessed with reducing the overall weight of the bike. To the point where brake levers were drilled out to such an extent that structural integrity was at a bare minimum. Cranks were thinned and drilled. Frames were denuded of paint and highly polished. Stems (quill stems back then) were drilled out. Seatposts were (judiciously) drilled out. In fact, anything that wasn't important in making the bike go, was drilled out to reduce weight.
Mid 70's rather late 80's
6,5 with everything. Pedals, Computermount, Cages, Powermeter. Value approx. 5000 Euro. Rose x-Lite. Few years old. I still like it very much.
I have a dogma f10 rim brake. Aero bike. deep aero wheels, 38cm aero handlebars, wide tyres, and I am still under the 6.8kg limit. So that’s aero and light weight, this is the fasted setup period.
Fastest in what setting? 💨
@@gcntech in every setting. At 6.7 kg and full aero setup l believe it’s faster then the new dogma f, this is why I haven’t upgraded, and upgrade in my mind, should be faster then before, so what’s the point in spending £14000
Wide tyres on rim brakes? What tyre and rim width?
@@Pablo_Coach25mm front 28mm rear
Tires are super flush with rim wall
Colnago v3rs rim brake, tadeg pogacar all time FAVOURITE bike, he won 2 TDF. V4rs too heavy.
My colnago V3rs rim brake weighs 6.82kgs with ultegra di2 12speed with 2x bottle cages and garmin mount, super responsive and agile.
12kg alloy bike with alloy wheels and Microshift group set. Only decent part is my specialized power saddle and gp 5000s. Cost me $700 usd new. Does the job but boy do I hate it haha
Hahaha you don't want to hate your bike, a bike that you love will make you want to ride more - it doesn't need to be super high end just as long as you want to get riding 🙌
Which bike is your favourite? 🪶
Let us know in the comments 💬
No factor bike?
@@supercoder7 Israel isn’t world tour
@@troycollett8540 : 👍 thank you
10k lightweight wheels 🤔🤔
It’s hard to argue that the Scott Foil isn’t the fastest all around bike in the World Tour. Simon Smart aero design and 7.2kg.
Excellent episode, makes me feel better about my 2020 Supersix Evo being just under 8Kg 😊 although my specialised crux gravel bike is almost the same weight as some of these bikes 😮😮😮 is all the modern tech worth it past tubeless rims and decent 11 speed gears 😊
The Supersix is a great looking bike - Aero bikes are becoming a bit heavier but aero can trump weight 💨
8,2kgs! BMC Roadmachine SLR5 with 105DI2 and Alloy Wheels and tubeless setup. My first proper Road Bike, i love it and all around, it just cost about 3200€ last year
Oooof sounds like a beauty 👌
#askgcntech Alex suggested in that video to switch from a 28mm tire to a 23mm in order to save weight.
But what about the rolling resistance?
If I remember correctly Josh from Silca said in one of his videos that a Continental GP5000 compared to GP4000 saves you the same amount of energy on a 10% climb like losing 0,5kg. So weight weenies should also be rolling resistance weenies.
Would be interesting to know wich tirewith actually is the fastest uphill.
2006 Felt F55 with updated cassette and rear derailleur to help my climbs (which however added weight), alu wheels and new Ultegra rim brakes, only weight saving upgrade were TPU tubes, in total 8.6kg with bottle cages (carbon ones, another weight saving option :D).
You should make a video about bike/component brands that are not in the worldtour. That would be interesting. To compare the top brands that made the cut and the rest that are good but didn't quite get in.
Alloy GT ZR3.0 with 9-speed 105, 9.7kg with pedals, bottle cages and pump bracket. NZ$600, ages ago. Spent a couple of grand on a secondhand 2020 Roubaix three years back but thought handling was too slow on steep, twisty, hilly descents, so sold it again. Prob a mistake but I'm still getting to top of climbs ahead of most of my mates on my GT. It works just fine with 28mm tyres, waxed chain and a 34-tooth cassette so I'm reining in the desire for something enviable. For style points I've got a gleaming trad Columbus ELOS steel bike, handmade in Lombardi, which I built up with alloy Campag. It's heavier but light in spirit.
11kg of city bike! bought it at the beginning of the pandemic to commute rather than riding trains/buses, we became buddies for life. I just did my first 100km ride with it
BMC TeammachineSLR01 One, zipp353 with pedals and bottle cage. Just above 7kg. Size 51
My main ride is a Pinarello Dogma F10 in matte black, with full Campagnolo Super Record EPS (non-wireless), Bora 45 WTO with Vittoria N EXT tubeless, Wahoo power pedals, Selle Italia 3d printed saddle....8 kg on the nose.
7.5kg XL Canyon Endurace rim brake with Ultegra 6800 and alloy hoops. Cost me £1700 8 years ago. Would have to spend at least £8k to get a new bike at that weight these days.
I have that bike, good machine
Great bike! Bikes are getting heavier but does this mean they are slower? 🤨
2021Tarmac SL6 52 with c38s rims, carbon bars, Pzeros w/ tpus tubes, cut fork and seat tubes to the minimum which is exactly my fit😅 aaaaand still with my original 105 11speed weights 7.9 for me who rides just on weekends I see it quite nice and enough😊.
Also considering when having to change my drive train when worn out and my seat I could still lower it to 7.6 nearbys is more than enough for me
These days there is a push for wider tires. The claim is that you will be faster and more comfortable. However this is all based on pseudo-science because the surface type and rider weight dictates the tire width and pressure. It's simply a way to kill off rim bikes without mentioning the word 'brake'. I have a ten year old alloy bike with light-ish alloy wheels that weighs about the same as a $10,000 pro level aero bike. Yes, I prefer disk brakes but not the weight, so for me I'd rather just have slightly worse brakes and narrower tires on my summer bike spend a lot less, $3000 gets me a mechanical rim brake bike that's as light as a $10,000 disk brake bike. I'd rather have that other $7000.
As for my bikes I have no clue what any of my bikes have weighed - ever... But I did (do) like riding them all and they have become more and more aero and comfortable as well as faster for sure!
Weight is fun to get nerdy over but it's not everything, having fun on the bike is the most important thing 🙌
Aethos pro with Alpinist wheels, butyl tubes; 7.2 kg with bottle cages and wahoo mount. Pretty reasonable weight, no aftermarket light parts, and it’s an extraordinary ride. I’ll try tpu tubes next summer, will maybe gain a little more than a hundred grams…
3:57 Winning it's second mountain top finish so far this season and one from a break-away beating a Cervelo is proving that the Van Rysel is a value all-rounder.
There are so many race day variables at play that trying to rank bike weights is like trying to hit a moving black target on a foggy moonless midnight.
My bike is an Orbea Orca OMX 2023 fitted with Ultegra 12s Di2. Zipp 404 Firecrest wheels. Zipp Aero SL70 handlebar and in a size 60 weighs in at 7.7kg with pedals, cages and mount. No flashy saddle. also duo power meter pedals from Assioma.
Around 13:50 Ollie suggests Speedplay Nano pedals over Shimano Dura-Ace pedals for weight savings. However, it is the pedal *system* (pedals + cleats) weight that matters. I doubt that with a full accounting that Speedplay represent much, if any, weight savings advantage.
I'll let you know the differences shortly. My 13 year old Felt AR4 was written off a month ago after I was hit by a motorist. Its replacement is a Cervelo R5 hopefully arriving next week. The Felt was under 8Kg with HED 60mm wheels. Will be interesting to see what the R5 will be!
Rest up! We hope you are back to full fitness soon 🙌 - Enjoy the new Cervelo! We would love to see it in the bike vault 👉 gcn.eu/techuploader
Great video! excellent hearing the weights. Too bad the teams are locked into sponsoring heavy components. Seems like they are trying to use what we would, eg. clincher / tubeless vs. tubular, Dura-Ace pedals…
This is actually quite easy. Bike design optimizes efficient energy transfer. As you go faster, you prioritize aerodynamic loss. First order is rider position and power output (comfort). Riders have become much more athletic from training, fueling etc.. so w/kg has gone up in recent decades and hence the ability to go faster… so bike design prioritizes aero. Climbers are shielded and they are free to ride lite bikes on their team.. the others ride fast.
You make some great points here! Do you think the average rider would benefit from an aero or lightweight bike? 👀
Twinsix gravel bike that I use as a touring/commuting bike - weighs around 11.5 kg without stuff for work and with a front dynamo hub. More like 13 to 15 kg when commuting with all my stuff.
Maths question for Ollie: On the mountain rides, assuming up and down, if you have a slightly heavier but more aero bike, won't you make up most/some of the lost climbing time by having higher descent speed?
Built up a 22' Allez Sprint frame for crit racing, just priced it up and got to about $2880 USD. weighs in at 9kg with 105 group, vision crank and 55 wheels, deda stem, and control tech bars. Got all items except for bar and stem either new take off prices or reduced new price though. Felt like an accomplishment as the factory built and tax would be somewhere at $3300 with stock 105 and alloy wheels.
52 cm, $2880 USD, 9kg
9.10 Kg 2020 Specialized Allez Disc Comp Pro with Shimano 105 and Shimano dual SPD/flat pedals. Was $2400 three years ago (w pedals).
My SL8 S-WORKS TARMAC complete weighs 6.72 kilos ride away. Includes Carbon Bottle Cages, Computer Mount, Time Xpro 15 Pedals & Titanium Ceramic OSPW Jockey Wheels .
54cm 40mm wide Roval Rapide Bars & Includes the original Roval Rapide CLX Aero Wheelset 51/60
with TPU tubes 11/34 cluster Dura Ace Di2 12 Speed Groupset.
Had my Bike Shop in Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺 remove the Sram Red Groupset. Obviously the frame was in the sensational Red Paint 🎨 Scheme.
My SL7 S-WORKS 54CM TARMAC same set up weighs 6.83 kilos with FSA VISION ONE METRON Carbon Cockpit.
As someone who is roughly the same height as Connor, it would be very interesting tho know the weight of his bikes over the years as compared to smaller riders on the same team for whom the setup/component choices were more likely optimised.
I feel like I could catch a wave on that guys hair 🏄♂️
I have a custom built carbon bike that is a dream, light, aero....... Built up a Ti bike with fatter tires this year. Crushed all of my previous KOM's!
I have a 2021 Tarmac SL6 Pro that I bought 2ndhand for $3,000 and weighs 8kg. It doesn't have any special light parts per se just Ultegra componentry and DT Swiss carbon wheels. This is heavier than my old rim brake SL4 which I think was around 7kg. That did have an FSA SL-K carbon crankset which was very light.
50cm CAAD12 105, Mavic Ksyium Elite with 27c: 7.68Kg include Look pedal and bottle cages
I enjoyed this. Would love to ride each one of them and decide for myself which one is nicest to ride.
my small siced filante slr astana with 50 mm dt swiss wheels weights 7.2 and it is half ultegra and dura ace cranks.
Interesting to compare the watts saved for weight to the Tour Magazine aero data. The S5 and Aeroad are at around 203 watts while bikes like the Tarmac are at about 208 or higher. So the all around bikes never manage to close the aero penalty.
Other thoughts, this makes the Foil even more impressive. Too bad the new Factor didn’t get weighed.
$2.8k USD for a road bike I'm glad to say my Pinarello Paris weighted 8.7kg after only upgrading cheap alternatives of 44 carbon Hunt wheels and a carbon sqlab saddle. While still having the basic stock aluminum bar and stem and an entry level shimano 105 mechanical groupset! Which will be my next upgrades hoping to shave down to 8kg or below. So far $4k well spent I must say!
Factor Ostro VAM 7.6kg size 54 with head unit, bottle cages, sram red etap axs (race setup) 60mm Black Inc Wheels, TPU inner tubes and Pirelli P Zero Classic 28mm
@gcntech 7:44 6.98kg Bora winner but at 12:45 the Bora SL8 is actually 6.83kg!
They said they compensated for size and so on? Else you would have to measure the exact same size of bike, with or without bottles and so on, but I goess that is not possible.
@@arnoldhau1 ah ok thanks
My bike is 7.8 kg, Canyon Aeroad CF8 SRAM Red/ Force mix. $5000US
Favorite definitely the Cervelo Jumbo lease a bike
If the teams have two bikes to choose from, I’d be fine with the Aero bike being a bit heavier, which seems to be the case with Cervelo and Cannondale.
You guys should do an episode on how to lighten bike weight for us, common folks. The restriction - have to set a realistic cost:savings ratio, e.g cannot be more than 10 US$ per 1W savings or 10 US$ per 250 gm savings. I sure you guys can come up with a better limit.
This is surprising. My V4RS with normal Dura Ace and no Carbon TI custom stuff weighs in at 7.00kg flat in a size 510. I’m 180 so not tiny. Also have got an alu deda superbox stem with carbon bar instead of a lighter full one piece option. I also thought the Enve wheels were weighted competitive to the Cadex alternative I have.
Old Trek Madone 5.2 was built from scratch 6.82kg, without pedals. Total build probably cost me around £1000 using a mix of new and secondhand parts.
I have a 2018 Giant TCR Maglia Rosa Edition (SM) with full SRAM Red mechanical that I bought for $3800 from someone and it weighs 14.6 lbs. On the other hand, my 2022 BMC Team Machine SLR01 (47cm) with full Dura Ace Di2 cost me about $9800 and weighed 16.9 lbs. My 2023 Cervelo Aspero 5 (48cm) which I use for both road and gravel now, with full SRAM Force AXS, cost me about $6500 and weighs 19 lbs. My top end speed on all of them is very similar but climbing I'd rather have the Giant and on flats, the BMC just based on overall response, but the Cervelo does everything just fine.
Lbs?
@@TesterAnimal1pounds
My 56cm bike is 7.6kgs with pedals. Is rim brake mechanical, and cost NZ$2500(40% off on special) but then bought lighter 50mm wheels for ~$1000, new seat, seatpost, new longer stem for around $600. So around NZ$4100 all up => US$2500 give or take.
I own a Winspace SLC 2.0, disc brakes, Dura Ace Di2 12 speed, 40mm deep wheels, with bottle cages and pedals (Assioma), I am at 6.6kg...you just need to do the "leap of faith" and directly purchase from Chinese brands
Good video @gcntech no weight on the new Factor Ostro?
Dave Lloyd Tri 800 custom built, 19lbs. 30 years ago, Reynolds 653 with deep rim wheels, bikestream drink system and tri bars.
26" Hed Jet Ironman wheels with Continental Competition GP tubs (also 26" 😁)
Profile Airwave bars
Middleburn RS4 cranks 👌
Speedplay titanium (pre UK release, from a Hong Kong trade show 😎)
Flite titanium saddle
USE titanium seat post
Ultegra gears, Chorus brakes
c. £3k (30 years ago) and worth it for all the triathlon bike course records I broke. Now I'm fat and 50 😋
8.6kg 😊
As well as the Dave Lloyd I also have a custom built Chas Roberts MTB a couple of years older (about 28lbs 😩)... It wasn't until 5 years ago I realised they were Chas & Dave! 🤣🤣
My bike is a Elves Falath Evo weight with bottle Cages and pedals 7.8kg , cost £3500 self build with full Axs Red groupset including power meter.
I love Cannonade bikes, always have. Hate their company/ customer service. But it's pretty wild to think that they are riding a +17lb bike in professional races. Yes I'm american so the Kilo's confuse me and I had to get the google calculator out. Hydraulic disc brakes and electronic group sets sure do take a toll on the weight.
Factor o2 Vam size 54 and disc brakes - 6.5kg with pedals, wahoo mount and bottle cages.
It's worth noting that all the Specialized teams have access to the Aethos but none of them have used that bike for mountain stages. It would be well under the UCI limit.
time for a GCN challenge then, put a model of the same bike from 2014 up against 2024 version, ride at 250 watts on a long enough uphill and see which is quicker
When I ride with my saddlebags on, it probably weighs around 16 to 18kg.
Its a gravel commuter bike mixed. I still average around 27kph on tarmac so I am happy with it.
Sl6, 58, with everything stock besides the fullcrum wind400 wheels 8,3kg, not bad at all 🙂
my 56 tarmac sl8 was 7.2kg without pedals, bidons or head unit. i "skimped" on the wheels (CLII instead of CLXII), drivetrain (new sram force), and saddle. i imagine you could get to the legal limit if you really tried, and it seems like bora is there or thereabouts. i think the difference between the rapides and the alpinist wheelset is probably the majority of the difference between quickstep and bora.
5.7 kg Canyon Ultimate CFR medium size is my lightest bike. Dura-Ace R9200, 2x12, disc brakes, 45mm aero wheels, tubeless 26mm tires and a bar tape.
edit: I spent additional 7000 euro to get there. By selling some old components I would say that the price of the bike could be around 13500 euro.
With 12 speed cassette you can easily run 1x setup, Shallower wheels and bit lighter saddle and you are bang on the money
Mine and my son's bikes
ARC8 Escapee Disc, Ultegra Di2, Mavic 45 mm tubeless wheelset, 8.0 kg
Specialized Tarmac SL6 Pro rim brake, Ultegra Di2. In the lightest veriosn with 990 grams Chinese tubular wheelset 6.9 kg including pedals, water bottle cages, Garmin sensors, computer mount and powermeter
Flat racing version on Roval CLX 50 mm tubular wheelset, around 7.2 kg
My old 2013 Specialized Roubaix SL3 with my alloy Campaq Neutron Ultra wheelset, mix of Campaq parts and triple cransket 7.5 kg without pedals
Our old Tarmac SL4 Expert on Campaq Chorus mechanical and Zonda wheelset was under 7 kg.
What we really should have is weights of bike without wheelsets. That would be best starting point for comparisons.
a 2012 Bianchi infinito with carbon Campagnolo and FSA components and shallow-ish 35mm wheels is just around 8.00kg, and I paid 1000€ for a used one 7 years ago, so not too bad :)
My bike is around 7,6 kg
Merida Reacto with 303 firecrest in a size 52. Includes Sram Red AXS and dura ace pedal.
Good to know my bike weighs about the same as Ineos's bike but cost about 1/2 the Pinarello Dogma's price.
My Tarmac Sl6, with Di2 And rim brakes, 50 mm rims Is 7,12 kg with assioma pedals, Garmin mount and 2 cages. Size 61. ❤
Planet x Pro Carbon with Sram Hydraulic 7.2KG - Changed wheels to 50mm Carbon with GP5000tyres - Carbon Seat Post, Carbon Saddle, Carbon Bars, Carbon Pedals, Carbon Cages, Size is 50cm
SL8 Pro here. Added integrated cockpit and Zipp 353nsw - weighs 7.1kg.
Boat anchor
@@Evaso_CC nah, it’s a bicycle
With or without pedals?
@@JayLato without pedals, but with cages, computer mount etc.
@@mikehhhhhhhnice similar to my Scott Addict RC
My bike is heavy, but not nearly as much as my gut. Thankfully I am not in a hurry to get anywhere. If I ever become impatient I will buy a motorbike.
It's all about enjoying the ride 🙌
Is no one gonna talk about the fact that the Supersix Evo (15k+ bike) weighs in at almost 8kg.
that‘s insane to me. whats the weight of their heavier bike then?
Trek Emonda SL Disc (2018), Sram Force Axs, Black Inc Integrated Bar, Lun Hyper D45 wheelset, tubeless with entry level Time pedals - 7.8kg £1,300 with pedals, mount, cage
Alex said at the end; 'today's bikes are a much better package than the bikes of 5 to 10 years ago'. 10 years ago yes. 5 years ago, not so sure. For example the Bianchi of 2019 with rim brakes and Di2. Not sure that that bike would cost you more than 3 watts as Ollie was talking about with weight. Be great to see that test 😎
1% drop in weight (800g on 7.5kg bike + 70kg rider) = 26seconds or 4 watts on alp d,huez? Time to go ride up some hills and shift the remaining Christmas weight
@oliver bridgewood do you still have that custom SuperSix? Is it for sale?😅
@7:07 How we ended up in this situation? Every manufacturer pushing disc brakes and marketing it as an 'essential'. Total bullocks.
2018 SW Tarmac SL6, mechanical dura ace, EE brakes, aero handlebar, 50mm hunt wheels and including pedals and garmin mount 6.8kg (15lb). Built/updgraded over several years so not sure on exact total $.
6.87kg no pedals, but with bottle cages, light/computer mounts. - 49cm 2020 Scott Addict RC 15 frameset, Syncros carbon cockpit, Mechanical dura-ace r9100, hunt 44UD, s-tubo tubes, 28mm GP5000 clincher (the lighter ones with the printed flag, not the new pigs), selle Italia SLR boost Superflow carbon railed.
Old 10 speed Van Nicolas Astraeus, with bel (and tools and bottle gages) 8.9kg. nice to learn in ons a kilo and a half behind
A Ineos rider other than g Thomas rode the last stage of the giro 2023 (the uphill tt) without bar tape
SystemSix 56 cm with Ultegra Di2 12sp, Power2Max PM, aero chainring, 60mm Hollowgram wheels, GP 5000s, SpeedPlay pedals, 140mm ENVE stem. 8.35kg. Not bad considering that I put zero effort into making it light.
Got a BMC Teammachine SLR_01 with Roval Aplinist CLX II 36mm in a 54 frame: 6.93kg
Little heavier when I have the deeper DT SWISS 1100 ARC 50mm on
Something you guys should have mentioned as a disclaimer is that, every one of those bikes are different sizes which affects the base weight you guys are taking by around 200-400g.
Also each bike has different depth wheels that affect the weight.
My Alloy Trek Emonda in Size 60 weights about 7,27 kg with Pedals Bottlecages 58 mm Aero Wheels Powemeter and Disc. Brakes.
Specialized Tarmac Comp disk = 19.1 lbs/$2,200....Tommasini Super Prestige = 20.2lbs/ $1,500 .... Specialized Tri cross =30lbs/$1,600 ....Specialized M4 Mountain = 25lbs/$900.......I wonder what the average and mean will be to all the responses you get ???? Let us know
2010 Felt Z6. Currently 18.5 lbs/8.4kg. Ultegra 10 spd with rim brakes. $600