This seems like you're comparing the best version of the short sword to a mediocre version of everything else. Just because the damage is the same on the combos for your short sword. I bet it's not the same for the other weapons. Seems lazy to say well its the same damage output for the weapon I'm using so therfore no speacil attacks + combos on the other weapons or heavy combos in the matter. Seems like a stacked deck
Agreed. He needs to do the heavy attacks because for a lot of weapons the strong attack is best. I don’t understand why he’d only do light. He did it on purpose knowing that, but idk why he did it.
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. Honestly man, the ratio of "Talking" to "Useful Information Conveyed" in this video is extremely high.
I personally don't like the way swords feel when attack, so I use Yog's Touch partial strong combo and if I have a large target I use Venom-Infused Daggers to get 10 stacks with 2 full strong combos and then the axe for bleeding, so the bosses just melt, and with my thrall using Aja's Bane, the armor is melted too, so 10 stacks of venom, 10 stacks of bleeding and no armor
Voidforged Gladius is great for pvp/pve. That and the Bane of the Dead are both amazing for pve dot stacking from the safety of a sheild. Daggers and Yogs are still great for direct damage but require way more strength to be useful in pvp. Can't argue with results I haven't lost a duel in over a year when I'm holding one of these. Definitely looking forward to the new greataxe/katana changes.
Honestly, I consider that an excellent balancing feature. It keeps them from being over powered. They retain significant strengths, while not being the best tool for every situation.
@@Firespark81 Sure, adding more I-frames to their attacks or giving them more AOE would be super unbalanced. My dislike of getting knocked around and stunned just typically leads me back to using the one handed axe, since their heavy sequence is nearly impervious to interruption.
With the katana u have to do 3 light and 1 special for the most damage, so i think it's useless to compare the shortswords heavy light combo, to the katana's light, because u normally use the 3 light, 1 special combo
Little of column A little of Column B. Their highest damage is 55. So I think its safe to say they will never come close to the DPS of other options. But I suppose I should do a follow up video with them.
@@Firespark81 feroxic daggers have 59 damage and 30 armor pin (with t4 smith and master weapon fitting) with crazy bleed and poison stack. Their damage is insane.
You can kill way faster just using the heavy and 5x light combo, light, heavy, repeat. Master fitting is better too. You can definitely get some other weapons close to it’s time to kill as well easily.
If you ever have the time, patience, mental fortitude etc. it would be interesting to see a comparison of the hidden combo for the short sword and the hidden combo for the katana. And are there any other weapons with hidden combos?
@@Firespark81 3 light attacks, and then the dash (currently heavy). The dash hits 4 or 5 times according to Hosav's ui doing high damage on each hit (there does seem to be a variable element in the damage caused each time the combo is used, though it will be the same for each of the 5 hits). It was working on test when I tried it, 3 light then the special attack rather than heavy. There is no visual que for the multiple hits, it just looks like the normal dash, so it's easy to miss what's happening. Really for all I know it could just be a bug rather than a deliberate combo, but it's pretty effective.
You didn’t even mention this weapon is gated behind the improved blacksmith bench at level 30. Rabid Milly is an easy kill and her camp is a 2 kill breach to get her loot then flotsam for weapon handles and you have everything you need including the fragment of power to trade for the recipe. Also I suggest everyone put a master weapon fitting on it ASAP because this will get nerfed. Funcom hates fun.
The Predator Blade is the highest damage of all weapons from I've found online and I happen to have it. The Gladius is 73 damage and The Predator is 97.
@@kitrozon4422 No, not the tuber! That is yours forever. I was only excited because you always get here first. The fact that I'm back to work next week will help ensure that this pattern will continue.
@@Firespark81 axe bleeding right hand and the shoter axe ( the smal axe ) l8ft hand so i have direct 20 bleeding and i attack with no stop i feel the best way to destroy all ennemie in game and boss
I use this weapon exclusively now, I used to use an axe and shield but not now. I still have a shield against the spear but there is a defensive move you have using this weapon against a spear that I discovered when fighting the Judge.
I would say 2hand Hammer and spear are still legit regarding the stats and the fact they have extra range, making it easier to touch the combos without taking damages in PvP. Especially if you destroy the armor of the armored target with the hammer, you would do A LOT more damages on the second combo (something like 100 mode damages i believe)
If that's your jam then you do you. As long as you are having fun that's all that matters. I just do these kinds of videos because I find pushing the limits of the game rather enjoyable.
@@Firespark81 yeah i agree, some theorycrafting is always a good idea ! I remember when it was the oil orb raid meta, was tryharding so much about it, I made an Excel file to know how much oil orb would be needed for each piece of building, was so much fun ! :D
Well if you are going to compare weapons against the gladius and its optimal combo.. than you should compare the other weapons optimal combos not their potentially worst combo's.
I guess that each weapon have an optimal combination of heavy and light attack to produce highest possible damage. Comparing the optimal attack combination with the gladius against only light attacks don't seem to as a fair comparison, even though the gladius seem pretty unbalanced at the moment.
It just seems really sloppy that Funcom would introduce a weapon that does 2-3 times the DPS than any other weapon in the game and on top of that. It's rather easy to come by.
@@Firespark81 i mentioned the fencing fitting last video you made like this. Curious if a 30 str light attack (fencer fitting) does more than a 40 str heavy (master fitting)
Thanks for the break down. I enjoy shortsword and shield myself. Shortswords are excellent up close against a single target. Their good stats and great heavey-light*4 combo counter balance their short range and lack of an inherent debuff built in (such as axes causing bleed, swords crippling, ect). I have had enemies get pushed out of the shortsword combo, leaving me swinging at air. Gray one shortswords carried me early game (such fast bleed) and the void gladius is an excellent later game. Their high damage and armour penetration help them to not be useless against undead and other things immune to dots. I have had trouble reaching the hit boxes of certain very large creatures with daggers and shortswords, so that's something to keep in mind. Also, when facing multiple foes, they also lag a bit. Getting locked into the combo while there are enemies nearby can be very painful.
The next nerf is this weapon, it will be worthless soon. As always its nerf or nothing. So why bother to go and get this, give it a month or two and it will be a weapon you hang on your wall as Funcom always nerfs anything decent.
!WRONG! The strongest short sword is not the Voidforged Gladius but the Shortsword of the Grey Ones. And it doesn't have just higher damage and armour pen, it also applies bleed and is only high grade. Also, why were long swords and daggers and claws excluded?
the grey ones weapons use way too much stamina, you can spam the gladius light combo until you run out of stamina and you can hit with the grey one a few times before having to wait.. also when crafted with a named thrall and a weapon mod the damage of the gladius go through the roof.. its like you guys didn't even wath the video..
The black-robed guy? That's actually just part of the Delving bench. Not an actual thrall or profession thrall. he just appears when you set the delving bench down.
What do you think of the short sword of the grey ones? I used nemedian helmet to get the durability to max and put a spiked weapon to increase armor pen. It looks on par or stronger than this weapon. Easy to repair with master repair kits. Seems broken.
Star Metal Short Sword in exile lands is also good for PVE. Still one of the strongest weapons in the game for fighting npcs and bosses on an agility build.
And with all these new weapons n shit which weapon type is officially the best on thralls now? Last i played they three the thralls ai back to launch level smarts and swing 1 time
The short sword can be crafted as every other weapon in various quality, from steel to stellar in exiles, you can craft one in the first men forge that deals 70+ damages without mod and you can buy the blueprint in the central tower to forge the void one that WAK shows here.
Yes and being powerful is ok. There will always be a strongest weapon. If anything they should just add other options that can put out the DPS of this thing.
Not that I'm doubting how powerful that weapon is but these were all trash mobs. Any high grade weapon can make short work of those. The real test is against bosses. Preferably real bosses and not the joke ones that can be constantly staggered.
It's basicly a lightsaber that poisons people lol
Omg love this comment! Yes.
@@Firespark81
An OP weapon from a less a civilised time.
@@Firespark81 what thrall is that in the begging? I want that clothing
"Killin is Killin."
- Firespark81, 2021
Fck i clickbaited myself, i thought it was best weaponS on siptah...😂
Turned to be just "why I love this sword" 😂
Great axes may be lacking in pen but let's not forget the legendary great axe with sunder.
Excellent, great to get the actual statistics for these. Great work!
Glad it was helpful!
@@Firespark81 where do you get the voidforge gladius
This seems like you're comparing the best version of the short sword to a mediocre version of everything else. Just because the damage is the same on the combos for your short sword. I bet it's not the same for the other weapons. Seems lazy to say well its the same damage output for the weapon I'm using so therfore no speacil attacks + combos on the other weapons or heavy combos in the matter. Seems like a stacked deck
Agreed. He needs to do the heavy attacks because for a lot of weapons the strong attack is best. I don’t understand why he’d only do light. He did it on purpose knowing that, but idk why he did it.
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
Honestly man, the ratio of "Talking" to "Useful Information Conveyed" in this video is extremely high.
I personally don't like the way swords feel when attack, so I use Yog's Touch partial strong combo and if I have a large target I use Venom-Infused Daggers to get 10 stacks with 2 full strong combos and then the axe for bleeding, so the bosses just melt, and with my thrall using Aja's Bane, the armor is melted too, so 10 stacks of venom, 10 stacks of bleeding and no armor
I was using that sword for a bit, but I went back to The Annoying Shard/Ax of Nergal.
I think the "shines like silver" katana is a contender.
Voidforged Gladius is great for pvp/pve. That and the Bane of the Dead are both amazing for pve dot stacking from the safety of a sheild. Daggers and Yogs are still great for direct damage but require way more strength to be useful in pvp. Can't argue with results I haven't lost a duel in over a year when I'm holding one of these. Definitely looking forward to the new greataxe/katana changes.
I’m all over this! Thanks!
You bet!
My only issues with short swords is that they don't allow for much in the way of multiple target damage and they have very low stagger resistance.
Honestly, I consider that an excellent balancing feature. It keeps them from being over powered.
They retain significant strengths, while not being the best tool for every situation.
I agree with Veridian. Could you imagine if they had more aoe?
@@Firespark81 Sure, adding more I-frames to their attacks or giving them more AOE would be super unbalanced. My dislike of getting knocked around and stunned just typically leads me back to using the one handed axe, since their heavy sequence is nearly impervious to interruption.
it's nice to see him in real armor for a change =D 2 handed hammer does more than 4 attacks also.
I mention that in the video lol
Great sword of the Grey Ones. With 78 dmg, 22% pen (Base). Add Kit. Does bleed. Wouldn't this be OP on thrall?
It is
That bleed is getting nerfed
Great axe is better, is does 93 damage and I think 23% pen, not sure bout the bleed
@@Firespark81 So what should thralls use?
With the katana u have to do 3 light and 1 special for the most damage, so i think it's useless to compare the shortswords heavy light combo, to the katana's light, because u normally use the 3 light, 1 special combo
did u forgot the dagger ?
I'm a big fan of the Gladius that's what I have been using
3:48 you didnt mention daggers.. was that due to their damage not being close enough to care or did you just miss them (or just miss mentioning them)?
Little of column A little of Column B. Their highest damage is 55. So I think its safe to say they will never come close to the DPS of other options. But I suppose I should do a follow up video with them.
@@Firespark81 makes sense. i dont think a full video is required but maybe a mention in the author comment to clearify if others miss this comment =)
Daggers are generally meant to chain heavys for the bleeds so makes sense they're trash for lights haha
@@Firespark81 feroxic daggers have 59 damage and 30 armor pin (with t4 smith and master weapon fitting) with crazy bleed and poison stack. Their damage is insane.
@Ronin Shogun Ill put them against the voidforge in a solo video. I'll make sure its thorough. I already have some ideas.
You can kill way faster just using the heavy and 5x light combo, light, heavy, repeat. Master fitting is better too. You can definitely get some other weapons close to it’s time to kill as well easily.
I agree best weapon. It also works great to kill peoples thralls. You can stun lock them forever because it doesn't use a lot of stamina.
The special attack attack short swords is an attack and dodge and it can cancel the stab combo
If you ever have the time, patience, mental fortitude etc. it would be interesting to see a comparison of the hidden combo for the short sword and the hidden combo for the katana. And are there any other weapons with hidden combos?
What is the katana combo and does it work on testlive?
@@Firespark81 3 light attacks, and then the dash (currently heavy). The dash hits 4 or 5 times according to Hosav's ui doing high damage on each hit (there does seem to be a variable element in the damage caused each time the combo is used, though it will be the same for each of the 5 hits). It was working on test when I tried it, 3 light then the special attack rather than heavy. There is no visual que for the multiple hits, it just looks like the normal dash, so it's easy to miss what's happening. Really for all I know it could just be a bug rather than a deliberate combo, but it's pretty effective.
You didn’t even mention this weapon is gated behind the improved blacksmith bench at level 30. Rabid Milly is an easy kill and her camp is a 2 kill breach to get her loot then flotsam for weapon handles and you have everything you need including the fragment of power to trade for the recipe. Also I suggest everyone put a master weapon fitting on it ASAP because this will get nerfed. Funcom hates fun.
The Predator Blade is the highest damage of all weapons from I've found online and I happen to have it. The Gladius is 73 damage and The Predator is 97.
Did you not watch the video?
maybe he missed the title "The Best Weapon In Conan Exiles The Isle Of Siptah"
Voidforge Gladd is faster like x2
It might be just me but it seems like there is a slight pause added between combos. Seems harder to chain things together these days.
Hey, new vid - first! Ha! Kit :P
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@@kitrozon4422 No, not the tuber! That is yours forever. I was only excited because you always get here first. The fact that I'm back to work next week will help ensure that this pattern will continue.
@@amyranth44 For the 🥔
Small axe lift hand and the big axe right hand and lets see how u destroy all ennemis
What axe has this kind of raw damage and poison?
@@Firespark81 axe bleeding right hand and the shoter axe ( the smal axe ) l8ft hand so i have direct 20 bleeding and i attack with no stop i feel the best way to destroy all ennemie in game and boss
I use this weapon exclusively now, I used to use an axe and shield but not now. I still have a shield against the spear but there is a defensive move you have using this weapon
against a spear that I discovered when fighting the Judge.
I also like the short sword. Some 1h can be used mounted and some cannot, though. You might need another weapon for that.
New video ftw 💜
Informational 💜💜
Hope you enjoyed it!
Loved it. Very informational and helpful. 💜
I would say 2hand Hammer and spear are still legit regarding the stats and the fact they have extra range, making it easier to touch the combos without taking damages in PvP. Especially if you destroy the armor of the armored target with the hammer, you would do A LOT more damages on the second combo (something like 100 mode damages i believe)
If that's your jam then you do you. As long as you are having fun that's all that matters. I just do these kinds of videos because I find pushing the limits of the game rather enjoyable.
@@Firespark81 yeah i agree, some theorycrafting is always a good idea ! I remember when it was the oil orb raid meta, was tryharding so much about it, I made an Excel file to know how much oil orb would be needed for each piece of building, was so much fun ! :D
What r the weapons being used as comparison?
why not the aligator bite? its hella easy to get to
thx for the great job!
Well if you are going to compare weapons against the gladius and its optimal combo.. than you should compare the other weapons optimal combos not their potentially worst combo's.
What would those be? Do you think they are faster than the gladius?
I guess that each weapon have an optimal combination of heavy and light attack to produce highest possible damage.
Comparing the optimal attack combination with the gladius against only light attacks don't seem to as a fair comparison, even though the gladius seem pretty unbalanced at the moment.
It just seems really sloppy that Funcom would introduce a weapon that does 2-3 times the DPS than any other weapon in the game and on top of that. It's rather easy to come by.
You shold have inculde the throwing axe in combo with Mace , Axe and Sword to compare the DMG for thos 2 , is dual wilding after all.
Best weapon as of now are the feroxic daggers and the gladius but I feel the gladius is good in water only and horse pvp is still meta lances are op
Is this still working? For the gladius / short sword?
But 1H Gladius is bugged for Thralls. Try to let them attack with it... its not working :(
So have you put a fencing kit on the gladius? It makes the light attack stronger than the heavy
did you watch the video lol. Also were you the one that told me about it a week ago?
@@Firespark81 i mentioned the fencing fitting last video you made like this. Curious if a 30 str light attack (fencer fitting) does more than a 40 str heavy (master fitting)
@@Firespark81 You know your famous for dragging your videos out mate you cant blame him for skipping some of it.
Thanks for the break down.
I enjoy shortsword and shield myself.
Shortswords are excellent up close against a single target. Their good stats and great heavey-light*4 combo counter balance their short range and lack of an inherent debuff built in (such as axes causing bleed, swords crippling, ect).
I have had enemies get pushed out of the shortsword combo, leaving me swinging at air.
Gray one shortswords carried me early game (such fast bleed) and the void gladius is an excellent later game. Their high damage and armour penetration help them to not be useless against undead and other things immune to dots.
I have had trouble reaching the hit boxes of certain very large creatures with daggers and shortswords, so that's something to keep in mind. Also, when facing multiple foes, they also lag a bit. Getting locked into the combo while there are enemies nearby can be very painful.
Liogor fang daggers is op as well if you like that build do figurines
Great. Here comes the nerf hammer
But did you try the katanas combo of light light light heavy charge?
What Katana are you using to compare to Gladius, just curious?
Imagine that with max strength aaaand Berserker rage active hahaha
The next nerf is this weapon, it will be worthless soon. As always its nerf or nothing. So why bother to go and get this, give it a month or two and it will be a weapon you hang on your wall as Funcom always nerfs anything decent.
It's because of these youtubers always opening their mouth bro so ya.
100% For example please see any specialilty weapons in exiles. Sword o c Crom, lifeblood spear, etc lol
Well a year later and it still isn't nerfed..
!WRONG!
The strongest short sword is not the Voidforged Gladius but the Shortsword of the Grey Ones. And it doesn't have just higher damage and armour pen, it also applies bleed and is only high grade.
Also, why were long swords and daggers and claws excluded?
In test live the weapons with bleed effects are all worthless since it only adds 1 bleed no matter the number of attacks. It is trash now.
Yeeeaah none of that is true or matters. He tested all 3 types of swords if you couldn’t count. Daggers and claws? Idk I have the same question.
the grey ones weapons use way too much stamina, you can spam the gladius light combo until you run out of stamina and you can hit with the grey one a few times before having to wait.. also when crafted with a named thrall and a weapon mod the damage of the gladius go through the roof.. its like you guys didn't even wath the video..
Hey man what attributes you use on that?
What thrall is that in all black clothes? In the beginning
The black-robed guy? That's actually just part of the Delving bench. Not an actual thrall or profession thrall. he just appears when you set the delving bench down.
What do you think of the short sword of the grey ones? I used nemedian helmet to get the durability to max and put a spiked weapon to increase armor pen. It looks on par or stronger than this weapon. Easy to repair with master repair kits. Seems broken.
It uses way too much stamina like all of the grey one weapons, the dps output of them drops quite a lot because of this..
nice.
Its this weapon good on the exiles lands?
Star Metal Short Sword in exile lands is also good for PVE. Still one of the strongest weapons in the game for fighting npcs and bosses on an agility build.
how do you use the spam stab attack ??
Special then spam light
What mods are you using?
And with all these new weapons n shit which weapon type is officially the best on thralls now? Last i played they three the thralls ai back to launch level smarts and swing 1 time
Bite, Grief or Sorcerers Great Axe
@@pwnmclovin1 they still swing once tho lol
@@bronysaiyan5236 But the spin to win is what makes them so good
@@pwnmclovin1 if the thrall does a heavy lol
Where can I find the short sword?
The short sword can be crafted as every other weapon in various quality, from steel to stellar in exiles, you can craft one in the first men forge that deals 70+ damages without mod and you can buy the blueprint in the central tower to forge the void one that WAK shows here.
@@kukipett but this is fire spark not wak
Both the daggers and the gladius needs nerfed I hope they make the spear great again or great swords too
No nerfs!
@@Firespark81 lol true cuz when they nerf they ruin the weapon
Yes and being powerful is ok. There will always be a strongest weapon. If anything they should just add other options that can put out the DPS of this thing.
I concur👏👏🤘
You da man
gladius is an agility weapon so strength is kinda useless
This was long before it was an agility weapon that change is pretty recent. Since Age of Sorcery release.
@@rodneyhenry9835 sorry been a long time i played conan last Time before i just started again a month ago
Actually that sword is only good in the water.
???
kitana 4 ever!
I personally love the claws. fun to watch
Lmao, why no daggers?
Cause the bleed damage got hard nerfed, and they're middle class now
@@MyZ001 diseased knives and feroxic daggers are middle class? Right…
Not that I'm doubting how powerful that weapon is but these were all trash mobs. Any high grade weapon can make short work of those. The real test is against bosses. Preferably real bosses and not the joke ones that can be constantly staggered.
i let my thrall do all the fighting . still they do better job then me on atk even i at lv 60 with best weapon.
They shouldn’t really out damage you if you have a proper fighting build. They just have a lot more HP, so they can stay in the fight easily.
2 months late
This weapon need be nerfed . Im PVP killin in water with 2 hits .
Nope. If it gets nerfed another weapon will just take its place.
How do you get this sword? I’m new to Siptah and it’s like a completely different game
Build it after u get it from the tower in the center of map. Bring frags of power and get lucky kinda thing.
Is there a video tutorial on this? I checked firesparks page and got lost in the encyclopaedia that is his videos lol
How dare you disrespect my favorite weapon! 😤
? what weapon
To many averts 🔔 end
How u can have Poison on ur Gladius? O. O
He sounds like a camp queen
"best weapon" 😂 dude is just a noob in conan
So what are the best? Specifically for thralls for pve and also pvp. Been looking around for a while.
I'm kinda curious too, not interested in pvp tho like the video was about pve too..