Béla Bartók - Violin Concerto No. 2, BB 117 (Frank Peter Zimmermann - ONE - Josep Pons)
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Frank Peter Zimmermann (vl) - National Orchestra of Spain - Josep Pons (cond.) Recorded on IX - V - 2010 at the National Auditorium - Madrid. Concert Nº 5053 - ONE
Frank Peter Zimmermann , ecco un violinista che ammiro davvero tanto !
El de bartok es un mundo aparte, y el maestro Zimmermann hace una increíble interpretación, junto a la orquesta, gracias
What a excellent violin playing!! Couldn't be any better.
There is no 'show', but pure concentration on the music and the expression.
Top notch execution and passionate playing by Frank Peter Zimmermann.
As a former guirarrist and bossa nova player i always loved dissonant chords, i studied Bartok scales at piano when i was youg and loved it for good.
This is such a work of Total Genius, you even wonder how anyone could ever dare to play this concerto in public. But, fortunately Zimmerman comes close to the (or my) ideal performance.
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Very strong music, very strong playing by Zimmerman. Bartok's greatness shows through.
Absolutely mystifying and breathtakingly pristine.
Mystifying and not making much sense at all.
The orchestra at the beginning of the 3rd movement and 27:46 to 28:30 is excellent. Perfectly captures the turmoil in those moments
Yes: very disonant, disturbing and cacophonic...wonderlful and beautiful, like a Beckett or Celine novel
Gracias por compartir, increíble concierto.
so perfekt in der interpration, so absolut souverän mit unendlichen reserven in der technik aber vor allem mit so butterweichem und trotzdem charakteristischem, seidigem klang, ohne das bei diesem konzert
vorprogrammierte krachen und quietschen, spielt das keiner. frank peter
zimmermann gehört zur absoluten internationalen spitzenklasse.
Ganz im Gegensatz zu Ihrer Orthographie. Investieren Sie etwas mehr Aufmerksamkeit und Ihre Kommentare gewinnen deutlich an Wert...
このヴァイオリニスト、個性的でしかも上手い。自信を持って演奏している
How beautiful!
Wow🎉❤
Es bellísima! y el intérprete. Sin palabras
maravilhoso concerto! boa postagem, parabens e obrigado!
1:56 blue flowers
I don't like the swift tempo Zimmerman takes with this concerto, especially in the opening. However, I love his bold playing & powerful bow. This is one of the most difficult concerti. Besides being very chromatic, it's technically challenging as well. My favorite version is the one with Pinchas Zukerman & Zuban Mehta (1979). I can stand to listen to this one again & again because of his phenomenal playing.
gorgeous
sehr gut gespielt !
Bartok is my favorite. People complain about gangster rap, I say listen to Bartok- it's the sound of war-torn soldiers as they advance upon, ravage and then leave behind a bucolic European town, that once took pride in its virgins.
Bartok must have learned about the war from news reports and whetever information friends living in Hungary and elsewhere in Europe could have passed on to him. He lived in New York from 1940 until his death 26 September 1945.
See my reply. Perhaps IanCanfire has a vivid imagination; perhaps he's misinformed about where Bartok lived during World War II.
part of the opening movement on the violin was sampled by a rapper named Kool Keith through an alter-ego named Dr Octagon. The song is called Blue Flowers.
15:11 love it how everyone coughs :D
I bet you re-listened several times just for that.
Composed in 1937-38.
14:30 sounds very Hungarian!
+Sebastiaan All of it sounds very Hungarian. It is full of folk music. And it must be difficult to enjoy for someone who doesn't recognize them.
That's rather a philosophical question! When does one enjoy music? When someone recognizes where the music originates from? I think it's rather difficult to set one type of music to a certain area. So for example Beethoven and Bach as explicitly German. But this is not German, this is Hungarian and I know too little about Hungarian folk music to say something about it or about its relations to this violin concerto. But I can assure you I enjoy it a lot even though. What I do recognize though is a certain modernity that is striking for this period, such as the dissonances. I am quite fond of Schoenberg and sometimes I tend to hear his orchestration through it.
+Sebastiaan What I know from experience is that I have to listen to a certain "type" of music for some time bofore I can really enjoy it. Musics that touch me the most are those heard in my childhood!
Among all this dissonancy in Bartók there are small islands of melodies, patterns and ornaments that are familiar to me. I wonder what it were like without this prior knowledge. Maybe I'd hear a completely different music :)
Viplexify It's interesting to share these thoughts to someone who has completely different perspective on this work. Yet we both enjoy it in our own way, perhaps this says something about the genius of Bartok himself. I have to admit, whenever I listen to Hungarian or Czech music containing these folk songs it feels like hearing a novelty, something that is hard to be placed. In Vienna around the 1900s Hungarian and Czech music and culture were seen as the new triumphant culture that should replace the over-date German music. This has been proclaimed by no one less than Franz-Ferdinand. ;)
Such a naivety for someone who listen Bartok and ask this incredible question !
The one thing that separates Zimmermann from other violinists are his gross changes of position. In that way, you can always tell it's him playing.
Fast and technical, but not comprehended like Menuhin.
very fast 2nd mvt!
leitmotif Sounds more like Allegro than Andante.
12:00 maestría total
LoL....very perfect!!
15:30
24:15
i like bartok's.but is there anyone can tell me about his life in america?
he starved to death.
Nonsense. Bartok died of leukemia.
Don't expect any intelligent answers from the usual idiots that soil UA-cam with nonsense. Bartok was very sick with leukemia when he came to the United States. He managed to find work at Columbia University in the Ethnomusicology Department. He was too proud to accept financial help from his musician friends. But they helped secure some important commissions to alleviate Bartok's financial problems. His most important compositions from his last years are the Concerto for Orchestra, Third Plano Concerto (written for his second wife), and his unfinished Viola Concerto. His friend and colleague Tibor Serly, completed the orchestration of the last 17 measures of the Piano Concerto, and completed and orchestrated the Viola Concerto using Bartok's 13 page short score draft. I hope this helps answer your question better than the stupidity of the other responses.
1:56 Dr. Octagon, paramedic fetus of the East...
with priests I'm from the Church of the Operating Room
This really should have more Likes.
King Pest amazing catch
모든 음악은 Melody가 분명할때 즐거움과 좋은 느낌을 가집니다.음의 건축적인 화음으로는 자칫 지루해집니다. 글쎄요 사람마다 느낌이 다르다고는 하지만.....
동의합니다.다수가 수긍하는 음악과 색다르게 앞서 나가려는 욕구 사이에 접점이 있으면 좋죠.
Música de Hungría
15:11 :D
牛逼
21:51 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Am I the only one not getting the motivation behind all that glissando? Don't get me wrong, Zimmermann is incredible as always, but I just don't like how much he uses glissando in this execution, doesn't sound very hungarian to me, maybe I'm wrong
Die Geigergarnele The glissandos are written in the score. To leave them out would be inappropriate.
@@mymanjosquin not talking about the written glissandos but the ones he puts kind of everywhere
I really can't enjoy listening to any of Bartok's concerto. They're all just so random. Notes are all over the place, no sequences, rarely ever any section that makes sense, which is very strange to someone who loves Tchaikovsky's, Mozart's, Dvorak's concerto and the likes. I guess it's the same as how a person can like metal while the other likes rap
Yes, it will be strange if your preference is to seek beauty in "pleasant" sounds. Then the Romantic language is more suited to you. You have to have a different temperament to appreciate this. Give it some time, and this piece will definitely grow on you
Btw, Bartok is never random. Everything he writes is meticulously planned. Pay attention to the number of inversions and variations used in the 1st movement:
original 1:56 and inversion 7:22
original 2:11 and inversion 9:15
original 3:20 and inversion 10:05
original 3:45 and inversion 10:33
original 3:53 and inversion 10:41
...and probably many more i've missed out
The whole 3rd movement is like a variation of the 1st with a similar original/inversion thing going on, many of the themes in the 3rd movement have a corresponding "parallel" in the 1st.
Point is- he manages to derive so much from so little starting material
Bartok's is another musical language, though not entirely. It still has the foundations that Bach etc laid. I've probably heard this work 100 times over the years and, believe me, you get to hear the harmonic progressions as powerful and logical - almost tonal, at times.
Very disonant, disturbing and cacophonic ... what is the point of such music ?
Apparently you don't understand much of what's written since 1900, and can't hear the beauty in this work. I feel sorry for you.
John Leistritz It is not important when the music was written or played but it is important if it is uplifting and harmonious and not a reflection of a disturbed mind or dry intelectual mind ...
violinoamore: Disturbed or dry intellectual mind?! You clearly know nothing about Bartok or his music to make such a statement. Or for that matter the music of the 20th century. You'd better "raise the drawbridge" at Brahms!
John Leistritz Don't worry, I know quite a lot about Bartok and 20th century music. It is not a question of time but of the harmony of mind. Music is basically harmony and beauty and should bring harmony to the listener ... For example Phil Glass, Arvo Part and many other live in 20th century and their music is beautiful and uplifting ...
violinoamore
then listen 2 pop or vivaldi with their only purpose in entertaining u. music should get u in the composers world and feelings and connect dif. people together. u're comment is really close minded, if ur understanding of music would be true... there wouldn't be any good classic musician in this world...u don't practice 9h a day just 2 entertain sb. who thinks music is a fun fact at after work lol.
poor.
Hermosa música y magníficos ejecutantes. Gracias por compartir.
I am a big fan of Zimmermann, but I am not wild about this performance. I feel he makes the mistake that many do with the last movement: he plays it too fast and it seems to fall apart a little.
Saw Zimmerman perform Prokofiev’s Violin Concerto No1 in the Hercules Hall in April. Mariss Jansen gave him particular applause. He is so superb
dude is unreal. best violinist currently championing 20th century concertos imo.
演奏中に咳する観客多すぎ
This inspirational performance is a paramount gift for Bartok lovers and violin lovers
My impression is unfathomable depths
FromTokyo
last cord of the “mini cadenza” in the first movement is not e-g-e-e but D-g-e-e!! (missprint in the solo violin part…)
Love the tattoo at 7:46
perfect!!