A battery that lasts 20 years
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2024
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ULTRA Stable SOLID STATE Battery - [2021]
With a capacity retention of 82% after 10,000 cycles, the first Stable Solid-State battery has come as unconventional electrolyte mix composed of Lithium-Germanium-Phosphorus-Sulfide and Lithium-Phosphorous-Sulfide-Chloride. The first is usually unstable and fails rather quickly. The second is a highly conductive solid state electrolyte material, though way more stable, still presents the same problems as the first one.
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All amazing batteries, they can do everything except get off the laboratory bench.
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Scaling is always the hardest part
@@uctt24 no point in trying to scale or ever even leave the bench if if they don’t have the potential. There are other metrics that mayysry
@@yourmommashouse mayysry->matter?
please stop doing this joke is every where.
It actually makes a lot of sense. The unstable electrolyte doesn't really STOP the dendrite formation completely, but instead simply dissipates the dendrite growth so short circuiting doesn't happen.
Yes, but lets see how it is implemented and mass manufactured.A new unknown problem might arise!
@@makisekurisu4674 From what I've seen these studies were performed at elevated temperatures (~50 deg c). So you may have to artificially heat the batteries during use.
@@Justin73791 Maybe it can be tuned to work at room temperature
@@makisekurisu4674 I'd hope so, and I'm not even sure the high temperatures are required to repeat the results.
It's just the temperatures they performed the test at, and it's the temperatures batteries are known to be pretty stable at.
So it's either they were just trying to make the numbers look 'extra good', or the batteries really need these temps.
Either way current batteries already face somewhat of a temperature problem (just not that extreme), which is why EV's in winter do significantly worse than in summer.
@@Justin73791 50 deg c is a decent temperature for a CPU/GPU. if these are meant to work in things like phones and laptops, then this would be a good test temperature.
Your visualizations are just amazing.
That's just because you're living in cave. 😎
@@taunteratwill1787 sir, I don't think Plato meant ''just buy a udemy course on blender you filthy peasants'' in his allegory
@@matheussanthiago9685 He should, the results would be so much better. 😂
@@taunteratwill1787 troll spotted
Always love seeing your new videos. It's crazy how much you've improved over the year. You're getting really good at condensing topic into shorter and more compact videos! Keep up the good work
"Condemning"--> ROFL!!!! Sorry, I know Engish is your 2nd language but this one just made me laugh. Need some humor. Correct word is condensing.
@@w8stral It is my first language but I didn't notice it lol. Thanks for pointing it out
@@coolcarlgaming2005 >> I have *******never******* made such stupid spelling errors =
Cool, now we can wait 5 years for someone to actually implement it in technology.
Elon Musk: "Hold my beer..)/* "
More like 20
5 years LOL try 50
@@andretokayuk8100 Musk maybe be the 1st, but then comes Toyota when it's really sorted out. Btw Toyota is developing it, Tesla not afaik
If it is as good as the lab promises, it will take less time. Not holding my breath though.
I'd like to also hear what the challenges are, I wanna know why this took so long to accomplish and what breakthroughs in related fields allowed for this
One of the major challenges right now, that I know of please add more if you know, is that the current tests were performed at elevated temperatures (around 55 degrees Celsius ) and at 15 M Pa .
Something is telling me that, like with other discoveries, this one was found by accident.
Sometimes, you throw shit at the wall and see what sticks. And that takes time.
Well, assuming that it's easily deployable, one immediate jump in capability would be vehicle range and battery pack longevity. Assuming the battery stays the same size, the range would triple and the battery pack would last the life of the vehicle. Right now most vehicles top out at 300 to 400 MI and assuming you drive it everyday, the battery would have to be replaced about every 7 years. With newer battery packs the range would be about 900 to 1200 miles on a charge and the battery life span would be about 50 years.
@fung whyou fly you too the moon and back, eh? LoL
@@niezbo the best discoveries, by accident
I'm a simple man. I see Subject zero, I click.
dendrite flossing every cycle helps
The only acceptable flossing
@@baconwizard floss with grid screen sim to bias? idk
I like how at the end you say "We're done here" just kind of reminds me of Cave Johnson's Aperture ads
it's not "reminds of"
it's direct reference
@@NoNameAtAll2 :0 that's cool
Burn his house down with lemons!!!
@@aiksi5605 see his new video then youll see
The biggest question for the big investors in this technology is what is the cheapest unstable material that can be sandwitched between the Lithium layers without compromising quality life of the battery?
@@MAKIUSO lol, but I don't think the lithium will like very much to pass a layer of uranium
I would place my bet on carbon. Super cheap, and It would likely react with lithium dendrites in direct contact since it has a positive charge. It also would not likely slow ionic flow since it's conductive and highly porous.
Big investors do NOT like this kind of technology. This is good for the consumer, as we could begin migrating our lifestyle to sustainable future. However, a battery that is recharged once a day and can sustain 20C AND would last 27 years at that rate is not profitable for big corporations.
@@MAKIUSO You forgot how dangerous they are for humans!
@@valkyriefrost5301 I'm normally not one for conspiracies.. But I really do believe there are some big players stopping some battery tech from reaching the market. One that I can completely vouch for, is all carbon batteries(Not super caps). I've made these myself at home(They can be made in an amateur lab) and with the right electrolytes and carbon mixes, you can approach lithium power density at a fraction of the cost.
This degree of animation and fluid transitions is such a joy to watch, I really hope you'll be able to become financially independent at some point, this content absolutely deserves it.
Insane video, super short and very compact! Keep it up, i like what ur doing!
Your graphic models are incredible.
I sincerely hope your views go back in the millions, consistently. This channel is easily one of the bests
Man, I'll never get over how slick your videos are.
Great Video. Would love it if it latest twice as long and you went over additional stats such as how this could decrease cost per battery and how far away this tech is till it come becomes readily available. Keep up the great work!
Please follow this up with how manufactrers are taking this science into real world applications. It's fascinating and potentially a great step towards carbon neutral economies when we really need it. Thank you
love your videos man! keep em coming!
Love ur channel! This content is amazing, the way it is displayed, everything .. !
Amazing video! I hope it overtakes the views of your Solid State Battery video from last year. You really deserve it!
This was super to-the-point and easy to follow. Your videos have always been about cutting-edge stuff and this is no exception.
Just discovered this channel today... Amazed. The world needs to know this
Video quality is amazing and the topic presented in a really understandable way
Amazing quality as always
When I see new video from you, it is a pure happiness ❤️ Keep going!
Thanks for the content and for listing the sources
This channel is what I like to call underrated
New battery packs are very expensive, close to 70% of the cost of a new vehicle, the cheapest is around $16,000. Unfortunately, refurbished battery packs are basically useless because they only replace the cells that are shorted or otherwise not working. The remaining time of the cells that were not replaced is the time that the refurbished pack will run since all cells suffer from the same malady caused by the replaced cells to fail in the first place.
All Lithium Ion batteries suffer from the same problem, spikes that grow between the cathode and anode until they reach the other side and cause maximum current flow through the short circuit. In many cases that can mean a fire that will also completely destroy the vehicle because using chemicals or water to put out such a hot fire basically does not work. For that reason most fire stations will allow them to burn until they run out of fuel. Also, Tesla times the battery life so that if fails just after the warranty expires. That means that a used Tesla is basically useless.
Damn these animations are amazing and so helpful. This also means far fewer batteries in the landfill, reduced rare minerals mining, and greater portability/capacity. If this translates to the new fast charging as well as high current discharge tech then this is extremely exciting. This would be to batteries what broadband was to the internet.
Also getting more accustomed to the potential implementations of graphite (and by extension graphene in the future) this helps unlock more potential implementations in other components as well. Mix this approach with the current-holding capacity of carbon fibre that's being tested out right now, the combination of both approaches could provide us a true milestone leap within the coming years
Lithium batteries are also recycled as we speak. They do it China and Tesla and Redwood do it in the US as well. The reason they currently end up in the landfill is because consumers are to lazy to recycle. With big car batteries that problem isn't existing, since they are big enough that every consumer will see its value and will probably be paid a nice amount to bring it to the recycler.
@Tranquility TenThousand To a degree, but the entire personal vehicle scene is standing in front of a major shift - and I'm not just talking about going into the EV market for good. Personal transportation as we know it will see vast change in the next 20 years, compared to the last 20 years in terms of vehicle types and their usecases. Talking grid network commuting, long distance independent travel, even flying vehicles will get a foothold in the not too distant future, and all of this is enabled by the technology advances that are not based in lithium batteries, but rather stress-member cf and graphene structures.
great video! I like how self healing battery sounds
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* last heard about: 6 years ago *
Thanks for presenting this information now I want to see more on how this method could be used. 👌🏼
Nice video! I like to think that I helped a little bit with my recomendations and hope you make a big and righteous comeback!
Thank you for another great video!
That's great man. Still wouldn't want to be around if one of these gets punctured. From your presentation, I learned that self induced battery fires are a thing of the past because dendrites are blocked. However, with the increased power density, I would suspect that a puncture event by a conductor would have a rather explosive consequence.
I just love your videos! 😍
fantastic quality as always.
I love the outro! sounds like Cave Johnson
I love this channel ❤️
Love your videos!
I really enjoy your efforts , I think it is not efforts it is way beyond then that.
Your vedios really lower my appetite for new and innovative approach toward batteries and a lot of other technology .... In the last I just want to say that you are our part of life ..❤
phenomenal reporting
Love the animations
Very nice!
Do you plan to add the nature impact of this kind of innovation?
wow can't wait to see in this new future tech soon!
Best video ending i've heard yet..
4:28
That's a form factor, the shape, not what's inside. But to be fair, 18650s usually are just conventional Li-ion batteries. But still 18650 is just a shape (18 - diameter, 65 - length, 0 - circular shape)
Love this channel
The production quality is crazy while still being informative and entertaining.
You earned my sub, keep up the good work :)
''A battery that lasts 20 years''
Nokia: *those are rookie numbers*
True. My dinosaur of a Nokia phone is still on its original battery at 16 years old, and it still holds its charge well. Under continuous use, I would need to recharge the battery about every 5 days. But under coronavirus restrictions, it only needed recharging three times in 12 months, and one of those times was because I forgot to turn the phone off for a couple of weeks.
4:25 *sees cycle count, still at 90% capacity*
Wtf o. o
Another great one!
OMG did you voice burnout 3?! 3:58 gave me literal chills....
Thumbs up and subscribed! Ditto Nik! Maybe you should tell people that this is LAB ONLY TECHNOLOGY!
Yippee!
The fourth new battery system I have seen in the last three weeks or so, and at least the fifteenth in the last two years.
In the future we will see a new battery system every week.
Meanwhile, back in the real world.....
Nothing change except smallish incremental improvements every 18 or so mths is rolled out commercially.
Love seeing this new stuff not even cutting edge, next generation type stuff but at the same time sad cause we won't get this tech for anther 5-10 years
I need this battery for my gaming console
So many world changing technologies don't seem to get much closer but this really feels like we're just a few years away from real-world benefits. Shipping and air travel might be shifting to electric in 10 years in the same way cars are right now.
Maybe for sea based shipping, but not for air travel. Batteries are not even close to being good enough to replace jet fuel. I recommend this video on the subject: ua-cam.com/video/02cCzdFBMCY/v-deo.html
The animated magnification lenses were just perfect 👌 really appreciate how much effort you put into your animations!
I'll wait to see them in real life. Also remember that Germanium is a rare and expensive element. It was once used in transistors, until much more abundant Silicon replaced it. Those early transistors were expensive, partly because of the price of the Germanium being used.
Great video thanks!
Okay as a gamer that thumbnail was really confusing I read multiplayer instead of multi-layer, had to read twice to understand XD good video as always
Time to rock out!
you really helped me out with my school paperwork, I'm writing a thesis about solid states batteries: keep it up, I love u❤️
P. S. I really miss saying "hello everyone, Subject zero here" :'(
gl with the thesis man
I'm so excited for solid state batteries
Wait... where is the intro? Did I miss the intro song...? I was like waiting for it.
I'm doing some tests with the intro stinger.
@@SubjectZeroScience Oh... Nice, keep up the great work dude!
Right on time!
I had a friend who once told me that he had an idea that would make batteries way better. I think he was smart enough to have come up with something like this.
I miss you, Rex. Drop me a line if you can, bud.
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can't wait to come back to this in 4 years and see no progress
That explanation really helped me to finally understand the difference between amp hours and kWh's.
Great presentation. Who developed this and can it go to production?
Deep unterstanding and testing of microcopic Transport of ions and atoms will even improve these shown techniques.
That's ingenious but there is a concern of Lithium short supply in the future.
Very interesting stuff. In just a few years we will have batteries in rc trucks that will last for 10000 charges that would be awesome
A self charging battery, where the positive is turned into negative and the negative is turned back into positive, some kind of circle of bouncing and sliding. Making the distance for the charge to travel further, to last for longer. Some kind of 3 state setup where walk to the top, then side down, flip over the world, and walk down the hill again. Maybe batteries should somehow move inside to change their configuration over time, to get more out of them, like sometimes if you shake a dying torch you get some extra light.
Amazing!
great video
Thanks 👍
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And keeping it straight was good, but hearing "Hello folks, Subject Zero here" was cool. It was like a Brand Stamp. Would prefer to hear that over straight one.
Suggestion - This time the video was going little fast. For people who are unaware of the topic will feel difficult to absorb it because of little fast pace. If slowed down by 2% - 5% would make it perfect.
And it is seen generally all the youtuber's pace in their videos increase over time making it difficult fir new comers. UA-camrs still do this as their channel has grown and audience has been set. You can open any old youtuber and see their older videos and latest videos, the pace has been increased.
It would be great if you could keep the pace same unless it is needed for a particular video.
I wonder if they could use carbon in the middle instead. Lithium would likely react when coming into direct contact with the carbon since it is positively charged. Also, it shouldn't slow ionic flow much since it's conductive.
tHanks for the video. Who is manufacturing this batter?
So will this battery make my phone not completely disgarge in 2h just becase is a little old phone ???
Wow, this is so cool!
Any hint at the cost for production / sales?
Seems like it may be no more costly than other batteries.
This is HUGE!
This is a revolutionary discovery.
I don't watch a lot battery breakthrough videos anymore. To many "in the next few years" promises that barely get kept. But this looks actually promising.
Very exciting. How does the waste after 20 years look? Is it highly recyclable?
Just asking for your opinion on a different concept of my own that is quite basic. The build can at least be of 2 ultra strong permanent magnets, one above another where the top magnet stays stationary on a plastic* container maybe filled with water while the other is inside that container. Between the top magnet and the container needs to be a very narrow gap for which a light sheet of lead* can easily slide between the magnets just enough to cause the bottom magnet to fall as if it were a delicate power switch that the rise and fall will help* generate more electrical power than it would take to move the lead* sheet in and out of that gap in least frictionless way, maybe levitated by other magnets. The water is basic to prevent damaging and even far too much noise.
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In summary... it would be as if the permanent magnets can be switch on and off like electro-magnets.
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I tend to come up with a whole lot of various ideas that worked out awesomely, but... not often able to test my ideas out.
Two questions, maybe i wrong in asking also:
1. Did they conduct this test in subzero temperatures? If yes, what was the result of the study?
2. How about coastal areas where air has lot more moisture resulting in higher risks for corrosion ?
thanks
What batteries you running? Ah yes I'm running them Lips
So many new technologies never make it to market.
I think this one will and very soon.
Thankyou
Companies: *LET'S REDUCE THAT*
Just awesome - soooooo,,,,2,5,10 yrs to product????
So much potential good battery news out there. I wander if GM is now looking at this considering the expensive recall they just issue. Me being on that recall I am always looking for a better battery breakthrough.
Cheers
For BEVs to take off (especially adoption from ICEV and HEV owners like me), we need better batteries backed by longer warranties. The CARB proposal of 15 years is a great start. I don't mind if it's 50% capacity instead of the proposed 80%.
Great video as always.
You already get 8 years with a Tesla, and it's already shown that they can hit 1 million km and still work, that's with a little lose of range too, somewhere around 80% left after that, as the lose slows down too.
@@-JustHuman- can you cite at least 10 owners who have gotten to one million miles on the same battery? Most on the Tesla Loop are not on the original battery or motor. Lots of battery issues reported on Tesla Motor Club. I don't like making things up.
@@flashsushi1843 Nope, as it simply isn't something most people have the time to do, as in they haven't had the car long enough for most to reach it on their daily drive. 1 million km isn't that easy to reach even if you bought a early model S or Roaster, as you would need to drive over 270 km every day for 10 years just to reach that. So of course it's only a few cars that would ever reach that, ICE cars don't reach it either as it's mostly have a shorter lifespan too (Around 300-500.000 km). Had to look the article back up now and given the million km Tesla owner got into Guinness Book of Records it kinda shows how rare it is, and he did had his battery change I read as he bought his used too. But the new one has around 500.000 km and is still there, so again they still beat ICE car average life time already. And his Roaster is also a long travler at 630.000 km, and that is a even older car. Do the battery need changin, depends on how you use it as for the most and if a error do happen it seems to be inside the 8 year warranty still. Would I like more warranty ? sure, 10 years could be nice and neat to have, but they already give way more than a ICE car that isn't going to last as long anyway without also getting to change major things.
Also that some people post on Tesla Motor Club that they have battery issue does not provide evidence for "lots" as you say either. Firstly it's the place people go to talk about things, if nothing is wrong most won't come there and the post would seem top fill more, and that is if the post are true to begin with of course as many just come to write stuff to affect Tesla in someway. And after doing a search on Battery issues not a lot really comes up, a lot here being in contrast to number of cars made and on the road, mostly it seems to also focus on the 12V battery too. And that is already something that Tesla them self hate, and have change in the new Model S too.
@@-JustHuman- okay. So maybe some dozen Tesla Model S won the quality lottery. Good for them lol.
@@flashsushi1843 Well I wouldn't say it's good for them that the batteries they got where not good for a long time, but it does seem to be a small number who got "lucky" judging by the forum numbers and statistics on batteries in generel. But that is the same with most things. I mean it was almost all VW users that got hit by the diesel gate, and people who bought hydrogen cars are also all kinda screwed over now as it seems that road is almost closed by now, so it have been worse with other tech than BEV too.
Amazing content…but also COOL ACCENT! Part of the reason why I like it is because I can’t place it-is it a hybrid, or am I just not familiar w/ it? 🤔
this is amazing in its own way. We have had pleanty of innovations regarding barreries in the past couple of years but most of them seem to take ages to get to market. This principle shows that there can be massive improvents to batteries with a 'basic' new recipie. I hope that its goin to be as easely scalable, as it sounds. If that truely is the case, we might get taste of this in two or three years time...
I found myself thinking for a few seconds when I read the title: "a battery that lasts 20 years! how wonderful I'll never need to recharge my phone again!" but when I clicked on the video my childishness soon fell apart and I woke up to reality. and I say this for everyone here because we all want a battery that has MUCH greater capacity to make the smartphone working than what we have today.