Milwaukee 2522-20 M12 FUEL Cut Off Tool Bandfile Conversion
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- In this episode we check out a bandfile conversion for the Milwaukee 2522-20 M12 Cut Off Tool. Come hang out with us and be sure to stick around for the bonus footage. If you like this video, please subscribe to the channel; we post new content every Thursday. Thanks for watching!
A very valuable piece of advice @ 4:00 . Sanding belts are only designed to run one direction, as indicated by the arrow on the inside of the belt, due to the way the belt is manufactured at the seem. Thanks for the video and keep up the great work 👍.
I took a second look and I actually got lucky the direction of the sandpaper was the direction I am running the tool. I like it chucking the dirt away from me rather than on me. Thanks for the advice. I'll try and work that tip into a future video when we are using the bandfile.
Further to my comment:- oops, My lack of understanding. I didn’t know, it was you (The Son) who was behind the design along with your Daddy. Bless you both and my special thanks to the Chief. Stay safe, both. 73s…
Thank you for giving me another excuse for a new tool!!! You rock dude!
My bandfile (makita) has been my favorite tool purchase of 2021. To anyone thinking about one, GET IT you will not be disappointed it's so very useful in all sorts of situations.
The Milwaukee conversion is a go to tool in my shop, how has the Makita held up for you? Any pros and cons now that you've had some time with it?
@@TalkingHandsTools works like the day I got it, seems solid no complaints. I use it plenty but not enough that I could give a real review and beside this one and the pneumatic ingersoll one at work I don't have much to compare to, I'm just a makita fanboy.
Pros, all my garden tools are sharp and it takes 5 seconds
Cons, I'll be making my own belts because makita's are limited in grit and expensive
Used one a lot in the machine shop I worked in years ago. Air powered Dyna File. Never underestimate how handy these things are, I miss having one at my personal disposal !
This is indeed a super handy tool to have around.
Same here,
I could have used 1 two weeks ago.
I think I might make 1 of these.
(Edit) on second thought, maybe NOT. The cost is not economical, 120 for the Milwaukee, 25 for the China Freight, and 50 for the kit.
I have found Cordless Dyma files for around 80, or Corded for 60
I never knew these existed until I used one at work last year and I found myself going to look for it on a daily basis
@@Guns_N_Gears Ryobi has one at a reasonable price...
I did something similar to their angle grinder, but I'm gonna do this too. nice and compact.
Should have made a video
I did this to my cut off tool, but I did t buy the kit from eBay, I got a pneumatic belt sander, now the same wheel that came with the belt sander fits the cut off tool nicely, the round mounting bracket with the holes for the screws I made it myself, I use a hacksaw to cut the bracket from the air tool, I drilled the four holes and that’s it, I got my Milwaukee belt sander without buying the kit
Sweet, did you get the 3/8 or 1/2 sander?
@@TalkingHandsTools i got a 3/4 X 20 1/2 sander, I’m thinking to get a 3/8 X 13” for the smaller projects, it’s easy to swap attachments
Let me know how it works out. Sounds like a fun project.
Where did you buy the sander? What is the name of the sander?
Thank you!
@@akaredcrossbow I got it from Amazon Canada , here’s the name hopefully you can get something similar
Canadian Tool and Supply 20mm (3/4-Inch) Air Belt Sander (BAS-20)
073021/1737h PST 🇺🇸 That attachment is a fantastic idea by the Daddy /Son invention. Imagine the brain work behind the concept, design, machining and testing ! They’d have had several prototypes made to obtain the final result. Kudos to to Daddy/Son joint effort.
I , already, placed the order to HF for the part which costs now $19.99 and will buy the kit from eBay. I think the price for the kit is good, considering the design. They need to patent the design, or have they, already?
Kudos to you Brother for posting the clip. Thank you and stay safe. 73s…
Patent? you don't understand how patents work. In a nutshell, VERY VERY expensive. Also, VERY IMPOSSIBLE, to write a "broad worded" patent. In the end, somebody changes the thickness of the coupling, adds a washer behing it, uses a different tools belt sanding.... game over. (I'm an engineer, with many creative machinery designs, not 1 patent, friends with MANY engineers with amazing automations, not 1 patent.... not worth it, many times those that try to copy, theirs don't work well becaue they don't understand the fine poitns. (not saying that is true here... this is pretty simple) I am IMPRESSED however with the simplicity of their conversion, they probably can make a lot of money by doing this all over the board with different types of tools and attachments. (Probably not enough business for "most" people to want to figure it out and compete, or for big companies to mess with.) Miwlaukee will come out with one eventually, and then that will be the end to this, unless it is a lot cheaper to do this. If I was these guys, I would sell the Harbor freight tool, AND the parts all in 1 kit, AND offer the belts as well. When Milwaukee comes out with theirs, well, that is why guys like the "father and son" should be doing this all over the power tool line.... and they will make a GOOD LIVING, because their engineering and creativity knows no end. Patents..... they have their place for sure.... but in todays world, almost can't afford to get one.
I own the ingersoll rand 12v IQ belt sander and it's a super handy tool. But most of my tools are milwaukee. Wish this would have been around when I was looking for one!
It's never too late my friend....
Seems solid so far.
Mine has held up really well.
this is an awesome adaptation....great video
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video. I'm hoping to do more videos along this line in the future.
@@TalkingHandsTools i hope milwaukee pay you something when they bring it out.....lol
To be fair I didn't make the adapter I just found a nice one someone else made on Ebay and made a video on it. I like the idea of supporting a guy trying to make a little extra money in his shop. I too would like to be able to make stuff like this one day.
On the other hand you could purchase a Ryobi power file with a battery and charger for about $70 and avoid the conversion junk. I’ve had one for 2 years and still works like a charm.
Or you could buy the recently release Milwuakee bandfile. I think it's great there are so many options available. I personally didn't want to buy a tool with a different battery line and deal with having multiple different chargers. Other guys may feel different and it may work for them in their shop and that is okay. So far both this conversion and the new release Milwaukee Bandfile have worked great for my applications.
Where can you find all that for that price?
Thank you!
This? Turns my borderline situation of wondering if I ‘really’ have a need for this tool? Into not wondering at all. (Nice.)
Thanks for the review.
Glad it was helpful!
Great job !
I just bought one of the milwaukees today to literally just do this
Ryobi makes a dedicated tool for this. Look into The Ryobi PSD101, $79 ... Some reviews on UA-cam you can check out.
awesome knife sharpener
Yeah even though I love Milwaukee I picked up the ryobi band file on sale for 59.99 does the job fine and I don’t have to cannibalize my $169 Milwaukee cut off tool
Thats fair enough, the adapter isn't too hard to take on and off but if your switching back and forth it would be a pain. For my use the band file is more useful than the cutoff tool. For the seldom use of the cut off tool changing everything over isn't too much hassle.
If you already have Ryobi stuff I'd say it's obvious to go that route. I'm trying to limit the number of batteries in my shop so this was a good alternative.
How do you like the Ryobi so far?
I'll definitely be building one of these.
Ryobi makes a dedicated tool for this. Look into The Ryobi PSD101 , $79 ... Some reviews on UA-cam you can check out.
@@Nucking-Futz You're a bit late. I contacted the maker on Ebay and ordered a kit for my Ridgid. I'll be making a UA-cam video on the conversion sometime this week.
@MRBenchwork sounds interesting share a link to your video once you get it finished. I think a few other guys were looking into options for the Ridgid hopefully it'll help them out.
Cool tool, very convenient and necessary...
It does work very nice. There are other ways of having a bandfile on the market each with their own pros and cons. This is as you say a very convenient size and package being cordless.
The belt sander from harbor freight can cost you only 24.99 if you go with the 3/8 width of belt instead of 1/2 as shown in another youtube video. You can use Harbor freight models 60627 or 97055.
yes either work well and are both affordable. I've used this quite a bit now and it has been flawless.
Would this sander be a good idea for posts of a deck and weird areas like that? I like how it seems it would work in that scenario
It would be great to get into hard to reach areas. It is only 3/8 wide, so it might be easy to dig into the work piece. I've also not tried a lot of side loading on it. I think you would need a fairly light touch to avoid pushing the belt off the tool. I'd give it a go if I was comfortable with spending the money, knowing it may not work. If I already had one, I'd definitely try it. There would be nothing to lose at that point.
Milwaukee’s coming out with a wireless band file within the next like three or four months.
I saw, more on that to come....
Nice music!
081721/0331h PST 🇺🇸 I procured both the items HF Central Pneumatic 3/8” air belt sander Item# 60627 and
M12 Milwaukee Belt Sander Conversion part machined by Mr. Michael Klassen. I read the Legal Notice and laughed! I will assemble the parts and will report. (much later) thanks guys, stay safe and 73s…
Glad to hear it, how do you like it? Do you have any pros and cons to share with anyone in the comments?
They literally just released the belt sander!!
They did indeed, we did two videos on it, check them out and let me know what you think.
Mine came in yesterday
That's awesome how do you like it?
Love it 5 ⭐️
I'm impressed myself.
Funny thing, this is the third video on this conversion, and all three were a little different. This is the only one that shows an actual CNC kit. However, I wonder if there is a kit out there that allows easy conversion between the two attachments, instead of taking 15 min to half an hour to do it back and forth?
My other question is, how does this compare to pneumatic, when using it for a longer duration, like removing spot welds, and then cleaning up your welds and smoothing down body work? I understand that this is extremely quiet by comparison, and no hose to drag around, but regardless of battery life, I'm talking about speed/time required to perform the same job. A pneumatic belt sander like this has a lot of torque and speed. Does this still have as much?
I gotta be honest I never ran the pneumatic I bought it to do this conversion. We could probably test it sometime. If I had to guess the pneumatic would have about the same torque. In this case the sand paper will be the weak link. I don't think it will take too much abuse from working the tool hard.
👍
Milwaukee does make a band file actually, but it is not cordless.
You are correct they have made the 120V version since the late 80s. It's got a larger belt than this M12 version also.
👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
Good video
I bought the 1/2" kit...
Brilliant!
What model number band file did you use?
The Harbor Freight SKUs are either 60627 or 97055.
Wonder if it fits in the Ryobi version....
Which component? I believe the Ryobi is 1/2 x 18, not 3/8 x 13 as this adapted version is.
Reverse is for when you are in those tight spots and can't rotate the tool.
Also for redirecting sparks away from your face when you can't stand anywhere else and can't flip the tool around.
The redirecting sparks away from your face has become quite nice.
Hi THT, watching from Darwin in Oz. Great tool. I would like to convert my M12 tool as well but can't get the sanding adaptor kit.
Can you advise on the eBay link please.
Great watching
If you do an eBay search for. "Milwaukee 2522-20 Conversion" you should find it.
Not another tool i have to have 🤪🍺🤯
Neat. Are there any applications for this tool that you can't do with say a die grinder?
I think this tool is really handy for De-burring work pieces while you can do that with a die grinder it's super easy to get a fast and very even finish with the band file. There's also a unique finish you can achieve fairly unique that you can really only get with a band file if your into it it's one of the only ways to get it. I got a similar finish with the 6" Inline grinder that we recently restored here on the channel.
@@TalkingHandsTools thanks!
You can save do much time and buy the new Ryobi version out now from EU/England
Ya but then you now have a Ryobi tool lying around...
@@ThisTalllol! thank you for the laugh
You have to cut and glue the sandpaper to get the sizing right?
No you can use any 13" x 3/8" belt on it.
Can you share link for that machined piece please! 😊
If you search Ebay for "Milwaukee Belt Sander conversion" you should find it.
Ryobi, Rigid, Milwaukee & a lot of others are all owned by TTI. Why everyone wants to buy 2 more expensive tools & an adapter when you can buy the Ryobi for $79 is beyond me. The Ryobi is variable speed
Your not wrong, however some people don't like having a bunch of different kinds of batteries around, and some people just enjoy making things cause it's fun. Either way there's tons of choices out there which I think is great so everyone can work with things that suit their own shop or personal needs best.
Conversion kit is unavailable. Can you hack the parts from the HF hit to make it fit?
No you need the little machined adapter for the band file housing to clamp on.
Do you have the link to the conversion kit?
Here's the link: www.ebay.com/itm/Belt-Sander-Conversion-Parts-3-8-Milwaukee-M12-Cut-Off-Saw-2522-20-2522-21/274409456284?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3Dc505b53fb5f3414db244414e8b66c488%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D15%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D274409456284%26itm%3D274409456284%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26brand%3DMilwaukee&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A1b85a8ca-0449-11eb-b260-22f916ae72f1%7Cparentrq%3Ae6c8e8721740ac3db17220e9ffea6a76%7Ciid%3A1
Search Ebay for Milwaukee Belt Sander they should come right up for you.
tried the search and cannot find the conversion kit. Maybe sending a link to the provider would help.
I do not see any listed at this time. They are made by a guy in his home shop so he may not have enough stock made to sell. I'd say check back on the search every so often. I don't know him so I cannot speak on any schedule. I just thought it was a great adaptation and wanted to support a guy in his home shop.
They were out of stock, now are currently in stock.
Where did you find adaptor kit on e bay
Yes, if you search for "Milwaukee Belt Sander Conversion" you should get close.
I love it can you add the link from Ebaty to where you bought the adapter please thank you
i just found the adapter on eBay $49.50
I think it's a great deal for custom machined parts. I think it's great guys can make stuff in their home shop and have a decent outlet to sell their custom parts.
@@TalkingHandsTools i agree ordered it last night
@@stanleymcman9422 Look into The Ryobi PSD101 , $79 ... Some reviews on UA-cam you can check out.
Is it strong enough for doing body work? Like pinch welds on a quarter panel?
I've not done that kind of work with it but I've prepped a decent amount of metal for welding with it. I think the tool is proportionally strong to hold up with the strength of the sand paper itself. This isn't a removing bulk material type tool it's more of a finishing tool from the roughing stages. The paper would never hold up if you tried to lay on this thing.
What’s the link to the conversation parts?
If you search eBay for "Milwaukee Belt Sander Conversion" you should be good to go.
The disks I hear wear out ultra-fast on the cutter.
When using it as a cut off tool, they do wear down quicker than a cut off wheel, there's much less material there to start with.
The advantage to a 3" cut off wheel is the locations you can get into. If you use a grinder with a cut off wheel for most of your cutting and a 3" cut off tool for the harder to reach locations you can save on your materials (presuming you have long cuts).
Where's the ebay link to buy the kit?
If you search for "Milwaukee belt sander conversion" you should find the two versions they sell. I've used this extensively and it has held up great.
need a a guard so we can use 4 or 41/2" disc, their wheel dont last.
It wouldn't have the power for a wheel that size, 3" wheels never do last long the idea of them though is to get into smaller areas. This tool does that well and with this adapter it works quite well as a Band File.
Where can I find that adapter set you used?
If you check down the comments, you'll see a post by Brett Klassen, who makes them with his dad. He has links.
Does it fit on the ridgid version. I'm all ridgid here and wpuld like to do the same .
I do not have an answer for you. there is a distinctive 4 hole pattern for the guard on the Milwaukee. That is the main part for mounting the band file. The other part would be the threads per inch on the tool arbor itself. If your guard mounts similar to what you see in the video it might be worth a go. I'd think it fairly likely the two arbors would be simlar. Since the two tools share a manufacturer.
I know a guy that built this exactly about 6 months ago, but somehow didn’t need to order an adapter.
I'm hoping to get set up so I too won't have to order things. For now I'm happy kicking a few bucks to another guy having fun in his shop.
OR just slap a steel brush into your drill or 1/4 impact and get the same results for $5....
A steel brush on a power tool of any kind can indeed produce results but they would not be the same. Between a band file a steel brush, each would have advantages ad disadvantages. Steel brushes tend to leave a residue behind. If painting or welding is in the scope of your work after surface cleaning that may or may not become detrimental for you. In this case the sand paper on the band file cleans the metal much better.
If removing paint or really bad rust is in your project you may want to consider a wire wheel (run within rated rpm) in this case the band file would likely clog up.
Flat surfaces are another example where a conventional Sander or wire wheel would be better than a band file. Band files excel on edges and uneven surfaces as well as hard to get to spots. Where wire wheels and edges don't get along at all.
At the end of the day if what your using works for you in your shop, do it. There are however many different types of products due to a vast requirement for applications in a wide variety of contexts across industry. Everyone also has their own style as well as process they are following along not to mention unique site specific safety protocols. Sometimes it is specified not to use one tool or another. Or in the case of a wire wheel may require different PPE and written procedures on certain jobs adding to expenses. At that time other means of achieving the job become much more viable.
I'd say if given the opportunity to use new tools like a band file give it a go and see if there is something to it. Sometimes things aren't worth it for your applications but at least you'll have some experience with the tool and chances are you'll see some strong merits to it over another method. That doesn't mean it's the only way to do it but if your trying to clean edges on many feet of sheet metal perhaps a band file would save hours and hours of work which makes the price tag much more appealing.
Where can I purchase the custom adapter? You said eBay but any more specifics?
A lot of times with Milwaukee tools a search for the tools part number helps out alot. If you search for "Milwaukee 2522-20 Conversion Kit" it should get you close. Hope that helps out.
They are now back in stock.
www.ebay.com/itm/Belt-Sander-Conversion-Parts-3-8-Milwaukee-M12-Cut-Off-Saw-2522-20-2522-21/274409456284?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3Dc505b53fb5f3414db244414e8b66c488%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D15%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D274409456284%26itm%3D274409456284%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26brand%3DMilwaukee&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A1b85a8ca-0449-11eb-b260-22f916ae72f1%7Cparentrq%3Ae6c8e8721740ac3db17220e9ffea6a76%7Ciid%3A1
That’s Awesome
Where do you get the adapter?
If you search eBay for Milwaukee belt sander you should find it. It's worked out great for me so far. If you get one let me know how you like it.
@@TalkingHandsTools Thanks, I will definitely get me one, I all ready have the Milwaukee cut-off tool!
@Gary Tuttle It's a natural to get then!
The baxter is better built for this over the cheapy baxter is the 1/2 model central pneumatic is the 3/8 model
I've been tempted to order the 1/2" Model to play around with myself.
@@TalkingHandsTools I love the 1/2 model been using it for awhile
can you please share the link or the address where you buy the adaptor please thank you
If you do an eBay search for. "Milwaukee 2522-20 Conversion" you should find it.
They are now back in stock.
www.ebay.com/itm/Belt-Sander-Conversion-Parts-3-8-Milwaukee-M12-Cut-Off-Saw-2522-20-2522-21/274409456284?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3Dc505b53fb5f3414db244414e8b66c488%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D15%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D274409456284%26itm%3D274409456284%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26brand%3DMilwaukee&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A1b85a8ca-0449-11eb-b260-22f916ae72f1%7Cparentrq%3Ae6c8e8721740ac3db17220e9ffea6a76%7Ciid%3A1
Where can i get those machined fittings?
there's a seller on Ebay that has them. They left a comment in the comments above with the links to their store.
Why doesn't Milwaukee have this tool in there product line?
I can't answer that with any authority but I'll put in two pennies. I think a lot of the tool manufacturers rely on marketing departments to predict the number of sales vs the projected expenses in manufacturing to determine if there would be a reasonable profit in the manufacturing of a particular tool. I'm guessing either the marketing department woefully underestimated the need out there for a band file in the shop and decided not to make one. Hopefully they will see the enthusiasm online for conversions like this and maybe get enough emails requesting one that they will re-consider making one.
Why can u not just buy the bit u want in a parts Wed pg
you probably could do that. I tried to order some parts from Harbor Freight once and never got them. I don't mind having the air motor around for the tool this way I have two ways I could run it. For me it was less hassle to do it this way but I think your correct you could likely order the parts and get exactly what you need if you want to.
can we get links?
Search on Ebay for "Belt Sander Conversion Parts For Milwaukee M12" the people making it have also commented below. This is a great tool and I pick it up quite often.
Too bad it wont have enough RPM to do much.
I can try to compare rpm with this and the stock air motor but having used it for a while it's very effective for me. What RPM would you normally be looking for? It's had plenty of torque and operates good for my use.
I would just buy an angle die grinder much more affective
Everyone has their own preferred way of finishing and removing metal. I've always liked options. There's things you can't do with an angle die grinder that you can with a band file and vice versa. I think if you were to only buy one tool between the two it would come down to what other uses benefit you in your shop. If the cutoff wheel or mini saw are a plus then the band file route is better. If the 3M disc, flap wheel, carbide burr, old school stone, 1/4" arbor family are more desirable than the angle grinder as you say would make more sense. Or you could get both and have the best of both worlds. It's all up to you after all it's your shop.
Can you send me link to buy connected part form eBay
If you search Ebay for "Milwaukee 2522-20 Conversion" you should see something. Normally the tools model number is key to searching for any accessories.
Ryobi makes a dedicated tool for this, Look into The Ryobi PSD101 cordless belt sander, $79 ... Some reviews on UA-cam you can check out.
So what's the name of costumer on E Bay
They are in the comments of this video, super nice guys and they make a nice adapter too!