Can the steel industry go green? | FT Climate Capital

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  • Опубліковано 29 жов 2023
  • The metal's role role in the climate crisis is now under scrutiny as companies across the world are racing to reduce their emissions. But the costs and challenges they are facing are significant
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 38

  • @Muriel-1112
    @Muriel-1112 7 місяців тому +25

    While it's great that some companies are making efforts, I think there are still significant challenges in transitioning the entire steel market to be green. The massive scale of steel production makes it difficult to implement these changes across the industry as a whole.

    • @Jonesmatsunaga
      @Jonesmatsunaga 7 місяців тому

      The steel market going green is an interesting topic. With increasing concerns about climate change, there is a growing need for industries to adopt more sustainable practices.

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      @Andres_853 7 місяців тому

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    • @Andres_853
      @Andres_853 7 місяців тому

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    • @Jonesmatsunaga
      @Jonesmatsunaga 7 місяців тому

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    • @kingk5013
      @kingk5013 4 місяці тому

      Well tax payers and consumers will pay the price

  • @vaclavnovacek1035
    @vaclavnovacek1035 5 місяців тому +2

    20-30% price increase is crazy. Its hard to imagine many companies buying that volunteraly and there are plenty of countries even within EU whose governments would have very hard time convincing the public that the added cost to the infrastructure is worth it.

  • @user-hi5pz6db9t
    @user-hi5pz6db9t 7 місяців тому +4

    How are they powering the electric furnace?

  • @kesakhan
    @kesakhan 2 місяці тому +1

    So is "biocoal" just a fancy way of saying charcoal? I love how they make milenia old methods/technologies sound new, hip and green.

  • @phils4634
    @phils4634 7 місяців тому +3

    Recycling is great, but the Global demand for steel far exceeds the recycling capacity. Steel production NEEDS coking Coal, and so if you want affordable and decent quality steel, you HAVE to use coke. There is no other feasible, and more importantly, AFFORDABLE alternative. If UK /EU don't want to produce steel (or in view of the self-inflicted "Energy Crisis", CAN'T AFFORD to produce steel), then others will, and plant closure = jobs lost, but more critically, expertise lost. Once the expertise has gone, getting it back will be very challenging indeed.

    • @siskinedge
      @siskinedge 2 місяці тому +1

      I would agree with this mostly but most of the cost of DRI is making the hydrogen as they mentioned while the cheapest renewable power generation needs energy storage (solar and wind). I could see the two problems synergising by generating green hydrogen when renewable generation exceeds demand (currently we just disconnect windfarms from the grid regularly) to use the lowest cost energy. grid scale energy storage has the issue of efficiency where it's around 60% efficiency currently. I could see this potentially bringing down costs to in line or cheaper than current methods.

  • @bensonboys6609
    @bensonboys6609 5 місяців тому

    When Alex Steel visited the plant, you really got to see the camaraderie and family that was created by this plant. Ideally, instead of them being replaced by new workers specializing in the new technology, it would be nice if the old workers were able to be retrained and re-purposed to do the new jobs. Not all the jobs are going to be super technical and specialized, and a lot of the seemingly technical and specialized jobs could be fulfilled by on the job training, or perhaps have an accelerated training regiment for that job.
    There are limits to this obviously, and there is a really high carbon cost to this steel family, but I feel like there’s a lot of low hanging fruit that could be done for the steel workers if you take them into consideration.

  • @juhajuntunen7866
    @juhajuntunen7866 7 місяців тому +1

    Iron industry use lime stone, it makes slug to remove impurities. But it makes CO2 too. How to avoid that?

    • @vaclavnovacek1035
      @vaclavnovacek1035 5 місяців тому

      I believe there was an impressive CNBC short documentary about concrete which uses lime stone as well.

  • @jillyanddavedave280
    @jillyanddavedave280 6 днів тому

    The labour politicians speak of strengthening defence but how are we going to make artillery and tanks without making steel.

  • @janholland2224
    @janholland2224 7 місяців тому +2

    Thank you. Cool you mention Boston Metal (7:10) as this is a completely new approach. It would be interesting to learn more on their disruption potential. No idea if Mr. Allanore is still around but he had a rather interesting background and understood the industry (and problem).

  • @gcvgks432
    @gcvgks432 7 місяців тому +5

    The problem is globalisation. It needs to be a whole marekt solution, not only Europe. More and more we are putting on emission tax on local market, we are more further from world price of steel materials. So more and more products, services are more and more expensive inside Europe. More and more decarbonisation is leading more and more job loss to Europe. We need to set standarts and stick to them, in pararel help from goverment the producers to get to high standard. Now more and more one thing maters in world - if it cheap - it is great, quality is coming only afterwards

    • @CausticLemons7
      @CausticLemons7 7 місяців тому

      I agree. If we really want to curb emissions and pollution than we have to focus on those goals. While we can't control other nations we can certainly identify and penalize those harmful emissions that we're trying to stop. Tax the pollution, both foreign and domestic, and I bet these new green technologies will be a lot more competitive.

    • @shadowsanddust2
      @shadowsanddust2 7 місяців тому

      Billy 🐐s says 5 billion will perish.. gets time magazine cover.
      I say.. the trashing of western middle class's will certainly contribute to this. And sending the Total Yearly Welfare/dole? To the country of origin helps 5× (modestly) than 1 person taking that money in the west.,
      I'm the 😈

  • @EnkhturDashdorj-de4pf
    @EnkhturDashdorj-de4pf Місяць тому

    Great

  • @yabbadabbadoo8225
    @yabbadabbadoo8225 7 місяців тому

    Its been well over 100 years since steel was made using piles of wood and coal

  • @grahamtaylor5757
    @grahamtaylor5757 7 місяців тому

    By the way we have tried buying it?

    • @grahamtaylor5757
      @grahamtaylor5757 7 місяців тому

      While I am on line, we would also be interested in buying Cardiff international airport, but nobody will answer us?

  • @Pmooli
    @Pmooli 7 місяців тому

    of course! good old timber

  • @user-mi5nj8gj5p
    @user-mi5nj8gj5p Місяць тому +1

    Green steel is too expensive the price of steel will jump to 2100 dollars to a tonne and scrap steel will be sort after . A average life span of cars is 10 years unless there is a scrapage of scrapping cars after 7 years and any case we haven't got enough Electricity power stations and having 7 million electric cars where's the 49000MW going to come from this topic is half baked and turning wast wood into charcoal why not convert it into plywood instead of burning it .

  • @schatterjeeanmol
    @schatterjeeanmol 7 місяців тому

    Excellent Educational video

    • @jarednovel
      @jarednovel 7 місяців тому

      I highly doubt if you got all the details...

  • @user-gz5bo9rh7c
    @user-gz5bo9rh7c 7 місяців тому

    green

  • @jarednovel
    @jarednovel 7 місяців тому +7

    Using taxpayers money to fund private companies that are going to produce more expensive steel or more expensive energy sounds like total rip off of the already struggling taxpayers that are increasingly being burdened by increased taxation

    • @incognitotorpedo42
      @incognitotorpedo42 7 місяців тому +3

      But the taxpayers are paying subsidies to the old technologies now. We should stop subsidizing tech that we don't want, and shift those subsidies to tech that we do want. Climate change costs the country a fortune due to increased storms, drought, heatwaves and wildfires. Ultimately those costs come out of your pocket.

    • @jarednovel
      @jarednovel 7 місяців тому

      @@incognitotorpedo42 The high cost of green energy and green production is simply making the society poorer. That is one of the reasons many are opposed to green agenda. What is the point of saying we want to save the planet while stockpiling nuclear weapons in this unstable world...The threat of nuclear annihilation is growing each day

  • @grahamtaylor5757
    @grahamtaylor5757 7 місяців тому

    Tata steel portalbot and the ith plants they have around the world was offered a great deal to reduce the steel works carbon footprint by up to 99% by my group if companies, with a zero up front cost to do so, and we would reduce their electricity bills lls by 50%, but portalbot managing directors never replied to any offers for the last 10 months? Why?, Because they knew in Jan 2023 that they would close the portalbot steel wy, as they had stated building another one in India.

    • @grahamtaylor5757
      @grahamtaylor5757 7 місяців тому

      And by the way, we have offered to buy it without any subsidies from the UK or Welsh gov, but still no replies?

    • @user-we8hi4yu6
      @user-we8hi4yu6 4 місяці тому

      right.
      4.3 billion to buy the plant.
      3.5 billion to upgrade the plants to working condition.
      after acquiring that steel plant in 2011, the highest profit the made 208 million in 2023
      now 2 billion to turn them "green" forced by the govt.
      And the govt gives 0.5 billion as a helping fund.(by this 5000 job will save)
      and what you think by making half electric bill(despite 3rd country with highest electric rate) and total production of stell production by whole UK only of 7million ton.
      did you(we) going to taking responsibility of all the shareholder and pension fund of people which is join with that company ?

  • @MaxMustermann-yj1wz
    @MaxMustermann-yj1wz 7 місяців тому +1

    Negative

  • @robertprawendowski2850
    @robertprawendowski2850 7 місяців тому