Almost felt, for a minute or two, that I have been listening to either Paul Desmond, Bud Shank. Gary Foster, Lee Knotz or even the great Art Pepper with that beautiful, mellow tone you have demonstrated. Thanks for your time and information, doc. Lohvissimo!
Boy, I second that sentiment about a thousand times! Your tone is absolutely to die for. Definitely has that old West Coast sound to it, but you play with more control and refinement than those guys. And I think a lot of people neglect to comment on what a great classical player you are. As you once said, “I was a classical saxophonist before it was cool.” I guess all that schooling paid off. 😂
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Professional saxophonist 50 years, Meyer user now for 45 years , used in USAF bands for 23 years, now retired, I play the 7MM, however, I tell my students who are new to jazz , upgrading from Yamaha 4C, to try out the 5MM (or 6MM). The 7MM tip might be a tad too large for them, coming from a Yamaha 4C .063". For me, the MEYER does it all, lead alto big band, combo work, wedding gigs, recording sessions, top 40 gigs, GB gigs, Late night jazz club bebop jam sessions at Smalls, or Jazz Central, even works for classical concert band, marching band or military band. Perfect for rock alto too, (Dave Sanborn). Grover Washington jr played a Meyer 7MM as well as Richie Cole, Phil Woods and Cannonball Adderley, I have met in my lifetime (age 60) about 540 other Meyer users. Why so many? because Meyers work! I love your analogy ,the Meyer is like a sports car (vintage Mustang or Camaro), when you go for it, it goes with you. I now have three -7MM's, my main jazz piece, and backup, and then one for teaching on privately for wear tear. one 6MM that works perfectly for classical, and one 8MM. used for rock gigs. 5MM--.071" 6MM--.076" 7MM--.081"
Hi, I am an intermediate/beginner playing on a Meyer hr 6m and I totally a agree with this video. Especially the ligature part lol, the ligature actually carves into my reeds a little on the stock. I think I will get a rovner ligature later on. I think my mistake when picking my mouthpiece was not researching enough into the tip opening sizes. Even though I've been playing clarinet for 4 years and alto for almost a year, the 6m tip opening is still too big. My lips get tired quickly and its hard to play jazz without having to go thinner on reeds which isn't a good idea for me since im already playing only on a 2.5, plus im starting to squeak which I've never done before. I think if I had picked a 5m it would have been perfect. For my beginner/intermediate opinion on how it feels, compared to a stock mouthpiece the meyer is a lot more loud and has the power to go as loud as I want. It also has a very good sound in all registers, while my stock mouthpiece was sounding thin on the upper notes. I also think its crazy how much higher I can go into the altissmo range with this mouthpiece. Im talking about a ~4.5 octave saxophone range! I think it has to do with the overtones that this mouthpiece highlights? This mouthpiece also actually works pretty good for classical on top of jazz! I was really impressed on the timbre of my sound, especially when I went up to an octave key C, I sounded like how professional classical saxophonists sound!
A worthwhile vid, thanks! I've just switch from the D'Addario select jazz, which I've been playing on for about 4 years, to a Vandoren Jumbo Java A45. Same price range. It is scarily loud and buzzy but I'm getting used to it and am enjoying the range of expression I can get from it. If you asked my neighbours, they'd probably prefer I go back to the D'Addario!
I have a Meyer 5MM that I bought in 1988, and a Jumbo Java A45. I love both. The Jumbo is loud and it cuts but I can use it for ballads just fine. The Meyer, also, can play funk and pop if needed. I find reed choice to make a great impact as much as a piece. I also have a Yamaha 4C, Strathon Adjust-Tone, a Bionix 10, and C*. Finding the right combination of reed to piece is a key. If I was forced to choose it would likely be the Meyer for overall most used in live and studio recording.
You sound fantastic 🎷🙌🏻and funnily I had the exact same comments to my sax teacher this evening as yours @ mn 4.55. Meyer 5 brighter more focused but D’Addario harmonised and darker, fuller sound in my view. I play the alto sax and have both mouthpieces.
Sir , your sound is fantastic and after seeing several mouthpiece tests you have done I think you could get a decent sound out of just about anything. There you have it !
That's very kind, Trefor. I've been playing for a long time, so I sound like "me" on most equipment. That said, I'm releasing a mouthpiece in the next 2 weeks that I'm absolutely in love with (and under $100)!
PERFECT timing Doc, as I happen to be currently testing out these exact two mouthpieces myself! I too find the Meyer "feeling" better (as you have indicated in one of your replies) but I like the D'Addario's sound more. Both are great mouthpieces though. Thanks again for the review!
@@drwallysax Thanks for the follow up Doc! I'm such a loser. Still haven't decided! One day I thought I had made up my mind and then the next day I felt way better with the other one. They each sounds quite different for me. I'm picking up a new horn tomorrow so hopefully it will help me with my decision. Will keep you posted! 😀
Very nice review (again), Wally! You sound superb on both pieces; I can't decide on which I like better for you. I played a Meyer 5 years ago but cannot remember much about it. I now play the D'Addario D6M, and I really like it. I concur with you in that the upper register really sings. However, the resistance at the lower end of the horn is a bit of bummer for me. I'm now anxiously awaiting the arrival of a Phil-Tone Intrepid 6 direct from Phil Engleman in France. It was quite expensive (especially after the conversion to Euros and the shipping), so I'm hoping it's my last piece for a VERY long time. Thanks again for the great content!
@@drwallysax Yes, I read that in one of your comments and also took a look at it on the Phil-Tone website. I'll let you know how I like the Intrepid once it arrives (maybe today....? Fingers crossed!).
DR.Wally I have the D'Addario select jazz mouthpieces D7M tenor marble and D6M alto select jazz and also a D5M select marble. The tenor is a perfect fit with my, the Martin lush full low notes and nice crisp highs. I haven't played alto much it's a new thing for me when I got my tenor I was lucky I found a good one, the first alto was a piece of junk and was stolen,I was blessed to find a nice the Martin alto made the same year I was born in very nice shape so I found the holy grail. The D6M was what I tried with my new horn and I think it's a good fit for me, should the tip openings I use be the same I feel a105 on tenor is fine but I didn't know if it would be the same on alto your thoughts would be helpful thanks.
Thanks for yet another highly informative video! I personally preferred you on the D'Addario, but I think what it comes down to, is personal taste. I have a somewhat unrelated question: what kind of microphone do you use? I am investigating some online platforms for playing together on the internet and have to invest in a good mic...
Oh man, I'm terrible with microphones. Literally just now I'm taking a break from testing a new one (and location for test recordings). the one in this video is a ribbon (great for playing in a room with others), but for most situations, you'd probably prefer a condenser. And I am miserably uneducated on good condenser mics. One of my dearest friends owns a recording studio in town, so he just loans me different things to try. Lemme as him and get back to you!
Hard to choose between them for that wonderful dark mellow sound! I’m struggling to decide on an upgrade for the Jean Paul 400S, as I find their mouthpiece is still too much of an effort & occasionally squeaky with the octave key on! Someone suggested a Meyer 6 or 7*..Do u think that might work? Not sure what the difference might be re the tip openings..Thank you for your always informative & amusing videos Dr Wally! 😁👍
I recently just bought a daddario d6m, I used to play on a Yamaha 4C. The daddario sounds very airy and feels resistant, low notes are harder to get out, and playing notes with the octave key squeak sometimes. Is it a reed problem or something else? I play on a 2.5 and 3 reeds
Interesting. I always play meyer 5 on the alto. I think it has a sweet sound. On the other hand, on the Tenor I actually have both of these mouthpieces, the Meyer 7 and the D'Addario D7M. I play both with the D'addario Select Jazz 3 soft filed reeds. In my particular case I have a hard time keeping the D'Addario from being punchy and loud, It wants to scream, it takes a lot of control and thought to keep it tamed. The Meyer 7 with the same reed is breathy and subtle, it's the complete opposite. Maybe the 3 soft reeds work better on one than the other? Maybe I need a different reed altogether for each of them...I am new to the Tenor, only played 6 months, and I don't get to play it as often as I would like.
Hi Dr. Wally, You made a comment about the Meyer mouthpiece made by injection molding. Actually the are made using a billet of rubber placed in a mold with an insert for the bore and chamber. The mold is closed and the rubber is pressed into shape. When that process is finished, the blank is vulcanized with heated steam to turn it into hard rubber.
Both mouthpieces sounded great to me. Perhaps the Meyer was a tad bit better. I'd be curious to see a comparison to a Link vs. Meyer. In one of your other videos you mentioned that they do different things. It would be interesting to get your take on what they are.
Your jazz sound is very beautiful too! It sounds A LOT like Paul Desmond's but with much more tone controll and a bigger sound in general, especially in the upper register. Don't want to be too judgy, just really appreciate it :)
I'll receive a D'addario select jazz 6M on alto as my first upgrade, next week. Guess I'm a Toyota guy ^^. On a more serious note, I prefer the slightly darker sound.
Thanks Dr. Wally. You sound wonderful on both of these mouthpieces. Have you found that a mouthpiece is a lot like a woman? When you find the right one, you just know? I’ve played my Meyer 8, short facing, medium chamber, since I pulled it off the shelf at Sands music in Portland back in about 1978, or 79. Before that I was playing a Meyer that was owned by the school I was teaching at, (probably a New York USA back then) and when I changed jobs I had to give the mouthpiece back. But the Meyer 8 was love at first sight, from the first note to the last, and it’s still just as wonderful today as our first tune together. I have to admit to a few indiscretions over the years, mostly due to circumstances such as symphony, opera, concert bands, saxophone quartets where I’ve had a fling or two with a Rousseau 4R, or a Selmer CS80, mainly due to the Meyer being a little too bright for the occasion, but I always come back to that same Meyer as soon as the situation allows. I have flirted with the D5M, and it’s very good. I’ve used it in pit orchestras a few times and appreciate the control and dependable intonation, but it’s just not the same thrill as I get with the Meyer. I loved your car analogy. I’m sorry to say that while I met a life long partner on alto and also on clarinet (my Bay OL, also 70’s vintage) I’ve never met a tenor mouthpiece that has swept me off my feet like that Meyer alto mouthpiece. I’ve done Bergs, Links, Meyers, and many others, metal, rubber, you name it. Some good, some less good, but I’ve never fallen in love with that one that I knew the minute I snapped a reed on that she was the one I could be with for the rest of my life. I am playing a D’Addario D6M on tenor now, and again, it’s good, but my eyes still wander........
Kids, if you’re looking for that “perfect” jazz sound on your saxophone…sound like this. Lol. You sound so much like my old band director (who is still a terrific saxophonist). It is a crime this channel doesn’t have more subscribers and views…
I keep getting questions about deciding between the two. But honestly, they're both great. I still prefer my Philtone, but I'd happily play a gig on either. Happy Wednesday, Apistosig!
This is one of the better gear videos I've seen. Did you end up finding a V16 to try? If you're into a "loaner", I have a A7 Medium Chamber V16 (SM813M) that I'm not using.
That's very kind, but I've managed to find one hidden in my box of forgotten mouthpieces. I've got a cool new Tenor piece and some others on deck, but I'll see if I can get to it!
Hey Wally, great comparison. Love the comedy! I use a D’addario as my main for alto. Ik we all have a different sound and different experiences with our mouthpieces, but do you think that the select jazz is more bright or dark. And idk if you have ever tried the vandoren v16 but if you have, how does it compare?
Hey Mario! In general, I feel the D'addario is one of the darker jazz alto mouthpieces on the market. With the wrong reed, it can feel a bit stuffy. I like the v16, it's quite a bit more free blowing and a great mouthpiece. I prefer a bit more resistance, but there's tons of players who sound fantastic on it. I think Alexa Tarantino plays on one - she's sounds fantastic. Happy Tuesday!
Saxophone Academy I like the Vandoren optimum. But I will like to try the M/O ligature to see how will the simpler less expensive version works. I’m personally not big on the gimmicky stuff I think for Example Coltrane sounded like Coltrane regardless of what ligature or sax he used. I do think that there are big differences in reeds and mouthpieces but you will always sound like you.
For me it’s more about response I like immediate response out of my equipment I don’t want to fight my gear. I did go through a lot of trial and error but when I play through my horn the combination of my alto/tenor with my chosen mouthpiece and reed the horn speaks with no hesitation and I can worry about my skill not the gear.
Thanks Richard! I think (and teach) in analogy and metaphor, just the way my brain works. I had an adult student who was an engineer - drove him NUTS! "Wally, what the heck does that mean???" Happy practicing my friend!
Hahaha, engineers are left brain thinkers, logic and analytical, very little right brain which is creative, artistic, visual. I guess give analogies in numerical formulas, X + Y= Anhemitonic scale. LOL
They're fine mouthpieces. Well made, consistent, and a good value. The sound is just not my aesthetic. Several modern alto players use them and sound great.
Hey Mr. Wally, another "meyer copy" mouthpiece that comes to my mind is the Vandoren v16 Medium chamber! What are your thoughs on those (I am talking about alto saxs only ok)?? And how do you compare the v16 Medium chamber to the Meyer medium chamber and the DSJ ?? (But it must be the v16 MEDIUM chamber) Thanks, and God bless!!
Hi Doc, great video ! I played both of them, an 8 Meyer and a 7 D'Addario (btw, good job on the italian name..) Now I play the D'Addario, for its singing quality, nice to have it as first alto. I found your tone quite singing and focused on the D'Addario, while more airy on the Meyer. But I admit I like them both..
Hey Paolo! Molto Bene, my friend! The Dee-ahhh-dario is certainly a great piece. It didn't "feel" quite as good when playing, but listening back, I quite like it. Hope you're well!
Loving your clips. Thanks so much. Always interesting and fun. Used to play Alto using a Meyer 7M (still have it) but now on a 6M and loving it with a harder reed (3.5 trad Vandoren). On tenor I'm now using a Meyer 5M with 5 trad Vandoren reed. V12 - 4 good too. General practice for easy blowing I put on a Jazz Select 4H reed. I think the Meyers have long been overlooked for tenor. However I'm finding them great for warm in tune sound. I keep a Meyer 9M in the case for noisy gigs. Meyer 7M on Bari. Perfect. I should put all this in context by saying I started out many years ago on 9* Metal Links and have finally discovered the close mouthpiece with hard reed combo works best for me.
I tested a number of pieces...a few years back.. I wasn't impressed by the standard Meyer 6 (but think I got one of the bad ones, uneven facing). I picked up a D'addario Jazz Select DM6. Nice mellow sounding piece but I need more volume/projection as I do play in a full size concert band and occasionally need to solo above the band (no mics).. I'm currently selling the D'addario (I'd like to keep it for small jazz gigs or recording at home) but it fits too tightly on the neck cork and won't work if I want to use my other mouthpieces. Thinking the Meyer New York in a 6 or 7 might be my next purchase..
I know what you mean. I like the D'addario, but it just doesn't "sing" or vibrate quite like I prefer. The Meyer NY looks good, but quite a price tag for a mass produced piece.
love the review! what are you thoughts on the vandoren v16 s+? ive seen players like danny janklow and grace kelly play on those and theyve got wicked sounds that i really admire. ive been playing a meyer 5m and i would like to know how they differentiate in sound as well as playability?
Hey Justin, thanks man. In my experience, the v16 is more focused and free blowing. It's a favorite of the more modern players. Meyer and D'addario have a broader, less focused core. This is my preference as it leans more towards my heroes: the 1950s west coast players. I dig all things mid-century retro. The Vandoren pieces are going to be VERY well made and consistent. Happy practicing man!
I recently nicked the side rail of my Meyer 8. Since I’ve been a junky on alto mouthpieces and bought a few mps similar to the Meyer medium. The Meyer still plays but it’s thin on top. I’ve been interested in D’Addario and thought it could be pretty similar to Meyer. Not really seen a lot of videos comparing these two. I couldn’t hear much of a difference but I like your explanation on the feel.
Glad to be of some help! I think you'll find the D'Addario actually feels more different than sounds. When I listened back to the playing samples, I'd thought there would be a bigger difference. Happy Sunday, John!
I have a D'Addario D5M that I've only played occasionally, I could never get a tone I liked on it but I wonder how much of a difference it would make if I had the larger tip openings.
Have you tried/found available a JodyJazz HR*? I'm a beginner player but when I tried a few Select Jazz's and Meyer's and Otto Link's (I'm an alto player), they were all great but the JodyJazz HR* was the smoothest and free blowing mouthpiece out of them all. I know it is a tad more expensive, but I'm just wanting to see your thoughts and opinion on the JodyJazz. Not that it really matters to me that much as I bought the JodyJazz anyway, just wanting to see your professional Doctors opinion 😅👍🏼🎷 Edit: also thanks a lot for your informative videos, I love your style and sound. I was wondering if you could recommend to me songs to listen to that are in the same style or artists to listen to that inspired your music. Cheers
Hey James, I think the JodyJazz is a VERY well made piece, even for the price. It's a bit more free blowing and aggressive than I prefer. I think this might be why these pieces are popular with more "modern" style players and work exceptionally well for fusion and R&B music. Great mouthpieces, just not my cup of tea. I prefer my metronomes and wristwatches mechanical, and my mouthpiece a bit resistant. happy practicing!
Hi Dr! Thank you for your video. I'm a beginner+ (3 years of alto) and I hesitate to upgrade on Meyer or JodyJazz HR*... For the Tip opening, how can I know if 5 or 6 is better for me without trying (no shops in my city) ?
Hi Natsheilak, I'm afraid that's a VERY tough question to answer over the internet. In general, without hearing you play, I'd wager a 5 would be a great fit. It's got plenty of power but should be forgiving as well. Let me know how it goes!
Hey, thanks Ramon. I should check out NY. I assume you mean the recent release from J.J. Babbit, right? Not a vintage? Happy Tuesday, hope your summer is going well!
Hello doc. I m Nitin from Pune India. I m playing on a Yamaha 280 Alto with 4c and switched over to 5C mouthpiece. Is Meyer 5C compatible to my instrument ?please guide me thanks
I think they are both great mouthpieces, I used to play with a Meyer 5M but as you said it has a bright sound and feels thinner on the upper register, I was looking for something more versatile and a little more resistance and I found it on the D'Addario (same tip opening) However I will always love the Meyer sound, why not having both? Haha
Absolutely, but honestly the reed type (given the same relative strength) FEELS more different than it sounds when I listen back to recordings. Good question, Avon.
I was wondering if the tip opening of 6 rather than 7 would be a huge difference? Specially that i am upgrading from my basic mouth piece which is 4 tip opening i think
2 questions… in terms of buying the Meyer where would I go to buy this. I saw it on Amazon but wasn’t sure if there is a better place to get it? And the other question is what ligatures and reeds do you suggest for the Meyer?
I bought mine through Woodwind Brasswind, but Amazon should be fine. Unfortunately, I can't really recommend a reed strength having never heard you (limits of internet instruction). I'd suggest buying a few at different strengths and testing!
Any standard 2 screw brass or nickle plated ligature will work just fine, after all, that's the ligature Bird, Cannonball and Phil Woods, used in the 1940's, 50's, 60's, and 70's. They didn't need a fancy overpriced ligature, like the silver-stein ligature, those were not invented yet, and besides, a regular 2 screw ligature really works great.
The most popular reed combination for a Meyer 6MM would be the Rico Royal Blue box, 3 or 3.5, or a Vandoren Java green box 3, but everyone's chops are different. Other great reeds include, Rico select Jazz , LaVoz and Rigotti Gold jazz.
I'm not sure if you've ever checked out 10MFan mouthpieces, they are pricier (spelling?) by comparison to these but no where near Theo Wanne. I actually switched from my Meyers to them and the creator gives a very accurate description of their sound.
Just checked out the website, they look cool! Especially love the Amber color! Would love to review one, but they're pretty pricey! Any chance you know the owner?! Have a great weekend!
@@drwallysax I don't know him personally, but he seems pretty open to getting reviews of his products out there, he even asked if I had a UA-cam or other social media doodad to review the pieces (I don't, but hopefully there'll be a Some Dude on Sax UA-cam channel someday - I'm a bit late to this "series of tubes" thing)... So I'll see what I can do?
The Meyer wins in my opinion. I am hooked on Jackie Mclean's sound so you know where I'm coming from. I try to imitate his sound but difficult for me to get the darkness out of my horn. The Meyer you played had way more character to it than the other piece. I find your sound rich and full and I could pick you out of any other player including Desmond. I am curious as to how you would sound with a high baffled mouthpiece.
Hey Samuel, I think the Vandoren Java line are great pieces. Well made, very consistent. They've got a very aggressive baffle, that's not quite my aesthetic (I'm a nut for the 1950s cool school). I've got some pro friends who use them and sound fantastic. Are you in the market for one? Happy practicing!
@@drwallysax thank you so much i bought D’’addario marble after i have watched your video , i love it perfect for my restaurant gigs close to the tables thank you so much for your videos and YOUR AMAZING TALENT AND HUMOR
I bought a Select Jazz D6M because I wasn't entirely happy with an Otto Link Super Tone Master 6* (I play Alto, btw). I used it pretty much exclusively for about 2 months. I like the tone, but as you mention, it is more resistant. I found compared to the Link, it had almost opposite playing characteristics - the Link requires careful voicing at the top of the range, why Select Jazz at the very bottom required work. I think it's a very good mouthpiece, but I could never get used to that extra resistance compared to the Otto Link which felt like I was having to work too hard to play. In the end, I ordered a boutique mouthpiece (a Philtone Orion) which I find has the sound I like while being very easy to play. It's the bargain of the Philtone lineup but still considerably more expensive than either of these. If you like less resistance, I would be somewhat wary of the Select Jazz. I've heard Meyers are more forgiving in that respect, and would definitely recommend trying them both if you're in the market. It's not a huge thing but it is noticeable.
Good observation, agreed. My main piece is actually a Philtone Solstice. I adore it and generally get annoyed during weeks I do mouthpiece reviews because I miss it. Happy Wednesday!
Hi Wally, I'd like to send you a couple of our mouthpieces for testing. Our mouthpieces are made from biocompatible resins and DLP 3D printing. Facing and table are hand finished.
Hi! That's incredibly kind and I really appreciate you reaching out. Unfortunately, I have my own line of mouthpieces (made by Windy City Woodwinds) and I'm not reviewing other brands currently. That said, they sound really cool, I'll certainly keep my eye out and be assured I'll be cheering you on!
Hi Wally, one general comment: when doing mouthpiece comparisons, please consider playing the exact same musical excerpt (a Bud Shank solo, maybe?) with the same phrasing, articulation, and dynamics, and with the same reed. That way, the listener can hone in on the sonic differences in the pieces themselves rather than what you are playing. Thanks again for all the excellent videos!
Hey Aaron. I totally get your point, but intentionally avoid this. I think it's a disservice to the consumer trying to pick out micro differences. Here's why: My position to the microphone (even an inch) has a tremendous impact on the perceived tone due the proximity effect. Also, for each mouthpiece I try to find the specific reed that makes the piece "speak." The reed variance will have a HUGE impact on perceived tonal differences as well. Also, how the mouthpiece "feels" affects how I play. So I might inflect differently depending on how the mouthpiece reacts. In short, I don't like the strict A/B comparisons. I spend several days on each mouthpieces getting a feel for it. Finding the right voicing. Playing, for instance, a phrase that feels great on my Phil-Tone the EXACT same way on a Meyer seems like a disservice to me. I wanted to give a general "feel" and my impressions of each mouthpiece, more than an accurate graph on a spectroscope. I'm just not a good enough recording engineer to do this accurately (in my opinion). There are some people who do this REALLY well, but it's probably not for me.
The Meyer was my first good piece. I tried all of the $23 Rico pieces and the Hites and some other sub $50 pieces. I wish I hadn't wasted my time on money on the crap.
One other thing to mention is the current Meyers do have more "customization". I know for sure they have S, M, L facing options and I believe they also have S, M, L chamber options but I'm not 100% certain. This probably adds even more to the inconsistency observation you made for the Meyers. D'Addario only has a medium chamber with what I assume is a medium facing. As you pointed out, it seems the main difference between the pieces is the variety vs consistency aspect. Both are excellent pieces though. I happen to prefer my Marble D'Addario D6 but still love my Meyer 7S when I have the right reed. I personally liked your sound a bit more on the D'Addario too :).
You're absolutely right, they do come in 3 chamber sizes. Also, now in the NY and "R" variants. The four I tested were all 7M - not as inconsistent as my old Rousseau pieces - but not as consistent as the D'Addario. I think the Marble is fantastic, and good looking too!
First off - thanks! For these demo videos - both were played on a D'Addario select jazz 3H unfiled. I've since switched to Boston Sax Shop 3.5. I'll be covering reeds much more in depth in future videos. Thanks for the question, Tommy - happy practicing!
@@drwallysax hi doctor, it depends on the situation. I drive mustang when I give hot girl a ride, I drive Toyota when I take my mom to supermarket. anyway, I love both, but love meyer a little bit more.
I played both the D'addario and Meyer, and for me the D'addario doesn't even compare, the meyer just sounds so much better. But this is the vintage meyer that I got for only 40 bucks more than the price of D'addario
I think tip opening is overrated, unless the differences are drastic. IMO more attention should be paid to the baffle and chamber size. The differences here are marginalized by the fact that Dr. Wally makes both of these pieces sound great and any student/amateur would probably find bigger differences based on their technique or skill level. The one thing I disagree with is the intention that these are "step up" mouthpieces between the student line and the pro level. If one can find their sound on either of these mouthpieces they could play them for the rest of their lives. Phil Woods, Cannonball Adderley and Lou Donaldson all played Meyer's for most, if not all of their careers.
I have both these mouthpieces in a 5 and I much prefer the Meyer. The D'Addario just lacks any real character. It's well made, efficient but ultimately boring, I think your car analogy is spot on.
With playing that good, I don’t quite understand why you aren’t a household name. You need a publicist! There’s simply nothing in your playing that’s any less complete or beautiful than so many of my favorite artists from the 50s
Both sound too open giving your sound an overly dark, airy, almost C-melody / tenor vibe. The classic Meyer sound of Phil Woods or Cannonball were produced with NY Meyer 5M. Not feeling the 7M, but if I had to choose, obviously it would be the Meyer.
Use a higher airstream, and active your nasal cavity for resonance, like a good singer does. You play well, but your sound is non-resonant. Need more ring. 👍
Almost felt, for a minute or two, that I have been listening to either Paul Desmond, Bud Shank. Gary Foster, Lee Knotz or even the great Art Pepper with that beautiful, mellow tone you have demonstrated.
Thanks for your time and information, doc.
Lohvissimo!
Well, you're now my new best friend. happy Tuesday bestie!!
Boy, I second that sentiment about a thousand times! Your tone is absolutely to die for. Definitely has that old West Coast sound to it, but you play with more control and refinement than those guys. And I think a lot of people neglect to comment on what a great classical player you are. As you once said, “I was a classical saxophonist before it was cool.” I guess all that schooling paid off. 😂
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Professional saxophonist 50 years, Meyer user now for 45 years , used in USAF bands for 23 years, now retired, I play the 7MM, however, I tell my students who are new to jazz , upgrading from Yamaha 4C, to try out the 5MM (or 6MM). The 7MM tip might be a tad too large for them, coming from a Yamaha 4C .063". For me, the MEYER does it all, lead alto big band, combo work, wedding gigs, recording sessions, top 40 gigs, GB gigs, Late night jazz club bebop jam sessions at Smalls, or Jazz Central, even works for classical concert band, marching band or military band. Perfect for rock alto too, (Dave Sanborn). Grover Washington jr played a Meyer 7MM as well as Richie Cole, Phil Woods and Cannonball Adderley, I have met in my lifetime (age 60) about 540 other Meyer users. Why so many? because Meyers work! I love your analogy ,the Meyer is like a sports car (vintage Mustang or Camaro), when you go for it, it goes with you.
I now have three -7MM's, my main jazz piece, and backup, and then one for teaching on privately for wear tear. one 6MM that works perfectly for classical, and one 8MM. used for rock gigs.
5MM--.071"
6MM--.076"
7MM--.081"
As purely as listener, at the moment, I liked the Meyer better the whole time. It just sang in such an expressive way.
It's my preference too - and that was a really NICE way to say you liked it - made my day, thanks Sherry!
Hi, I am an intermediate/beginner playing on a Meyer hr 6m and I totally a agree with this video. Especially the ligature part lol, the ligature actually carves into my reeds a little on the stock.
I think I will get a rovner ligature later on.
I think my mistake when picking my mouthpiece was not researching enough into the tip opening sizes. Even though I've been playing clarinet for 4 years and alto for almost a year, the 6m tip opening is still too big. My lips get tired quickly and its hard to play jazz without having to go thinner on reeds which isn't a good idea for me since im already playing only on a 2.5, plus im starting to squeak which I've never done before.
I think if I had picked a 5m it would have been perfect.
For my beginner/intermediate opinion on how it feels, compared to a stock mouthpiece the meyer is a lot more loud and has the power to go as loud as I want. It also has a very good sound in all registers, while my stock mouthpiece was sounding thin on the upper notes. I also think its crazy how much higher I can go into the altissmo range with this mouthpiece. Im talking about a ~4.5 octave saxophone range! I think it has to do with the overtones that this mouthpiece highlights?
This mouthpiece also actually works pretty good for classical on top of jazz! I was really impressed on the timbre of my sound, especially when I went up to an octave key C, I sounded like how professional classical saxophonists sound!
A worthwhile vid, thanks! I've just switch from the D'Addario select jazz, which I've been playing on for about 4 years, to a Vandoren Jumbo Java A45. Same price range. It is scarily loud and buzzy but I'm getting used to it and am enjoying the range of expression I can get from it. If you asked my neighbours, they'd probably prefer I go back to the D'Addario!
Ha! Good friend and crazy virtuoso Chris Bittner plays on a Java - he sounds fabulous (and loud). Happy Wednesday!
I have a Meyer 5MM that I bought in 1988, and a Jumbo Java A45. I love both. The Jumbo is loud and it cuts but I can use it for ballads just fine. The Meyer, also, can play funk and pop if needed. I find reed choice to make a great impact as much as a piece. I also have a Yamaha 4C, Strathon Adjust-Tone, a Bionix 10, and C*. Finding the right combination of reed to piece is a key. If I was forced to choose it would likely be the Meyer for overall most used in live and studio recording.
You sound fantastic 🎷🙌🏻and funnily I had the exact same comments to my sax teacher this evening as yours @ mn 4.55. Meyer 5 brighter more focused but D’Addario harmonised and darker, fuller sound in my view. I play the alto sax and have both mouthpieces.
Thank you Doctor. I’ve been playing with Meyer 5, my first pro level mouthpiece. So far so good, but I have not compared with anything comparable yet.
Excellent, keep me updated!
Sir , your sound is fantastic and after seeing several mouthpiece tests you have done I think you could get a decent sound out of just about anything. There you have it !
That's very kind, Trefor. I've been playing for a long time, so I sound like "me" on most equipment. That said, I'm releasing a mouthpiece in the next 2 weeks that I'm absolutely in love with (and under $100)!
I love your playing Dr. Wally!!! Thanks for another great video
Thanks Tom, that made my morning! Hope you have a great week!
@@drwallysax you're welcome Dr Wally!
I hope you have a great week as well!
I have a Meyer 6 for both alto and tenor and really love them. I used to play on a Selmer 4* - I now prefer the Meyer.
I do love a good Meyer. It's like a good burger - nothing fancy, just a great solid choice. Happy Weekend Stephen!
Must say Dr. Wally, all the info and analysis is greatly appreciated but I just like to hear you play; from the heart to the horn.
Ron, that's incredibly kind. Thank you. Hope you have a fantastic weekend my friend.
PERFECT timing Doc, as I happen to be currently testing out these exact two mouthpieces myself! I too find the Meyer "feeling" better (as you have indicated in one of your replies) but I like the D'Addario's sound more. Both are great mouthpieces though. Thanks again for the review!
Which one did you end up picking!?!
@@drwallysax Thanks for the follow up Doc! I'm such a loser. Still haven't decided! One day I thought I had made up my mind and then the next day I felt way better with the other one. They each sounds quite different for me. I'm picking up a new horn tomorrow so hopefully it will help me with my decision. Will keep you posted! 😀
Great comparison video! Love your style & sound. Also those SE Electronics ribbon mics are great!
Thanks Tito! Happy Thursday my friend!
@@drwallysax likewise! Take care
Very nice review (again), Wally! You sound superb on both pieces; I can't decide on which I like better for you. I played a Meyer 5 years ago but cannot remember much about it. I now play the D'Addario D6M, and I really like it. I concur with you in that the upper register really sings. However, the resistance at the lower end of the horn is a bit of bummer for me. I'm now anxiously awaiting the arrival of a Phil-Tone Intrepid 6 direct from Phil Engleman in France. It was quite expensive (especially after the conversion to Euros and the shipping), so I'm hoping it's my last piece for a VERY long time. Thanks again for the great content!
My main piece is a Phil-Tone solstice. I absolutely love it.
@@drwallysax Yes, I read that in one of your comments and also took a look at it on the Phil-Tone website. I'll let you know how I like the Intrepid once it arrives (maybe today....? Fingers crossed!).
@@drwallysax That's interesting Wally. I have one too and I like that Desmond vibe. I have a Tenor Sapphire, I love that.
DR.Wally I have the D'Addario select jazz mouthpieces D7M tenor marble and D6M alto select jazz and also a D5M select marble. The tenor is a perfect fit with my, the Martin lush full low notes and nice crisp highs. I haven't played alto much it's a new thing for me when I got my tenor I was lucky I found a good one, the first alto was a piece of junk and was stolen,I was blessed to find a nice the Martin alto made the same year I was born in very nice shape so I found the holy grail. The D6M was what I tried with my new horn and I think it's a good fit for me, should the tip openings I use be the same I feel a105 on tenor is fine but I didn't know if it would be the same on alto your thoughts would be helpful thanks.
I'Ll go with the Meyer mouthpiece.
Excellent presentation Wally as always. I agree the Meyer would be my choice as well.
Hey, thanks! For $120, it's a good lil' mouthpiece for sure.
What are your thoughts on the D'Addario plastic tipped reeds? Have you tried these?
You mean the Venn? Got one on back order currently.
@@drwallysax No I was referring to www.daddario.com/products/woodwinds/alto-saxophone/alto-sax-reeds/plasticover-by-daddario-alto-saxophone-reeds/
@@Rabittsfoot1 Oh! Afraid I've never tried one!
I have a 25 yr old Meyer 5 that is worn out and needs work. I opted for a new Meyer G series 6. With an Alexander DC Superial 3, I love it.
Hey Craig! What's your experience with the "G"? How would you describe the difference compared to the vanilla Meyer?
Thanks for yet another highly informative video! I personally preferred you on the D'Addario, but I think what it comes down to, is personal taste.
I have a somewhat unrelated question: what kind of microphone do you use? I am investigating some online platforms for playing together on the internet and have to invest in a good mic...
Oh man, I'm terrible with microphones. Literally just now I'm taking a break from testing a new one (and location for test recordings). the one in this video is a ribbon (great for playing in a room with others), but for most situations, you'd probably prefer a condenser. And I am miserably uneducated on good condenser mics. One of my dearest friends owns a recording studio in town, so he just loans me different things to try. Lemme as him and get back to you!
Hard to choose between them for that wonderful dark mellow sound! I’m struggling to decide on an upgrade for the Jean Paul 400S, as I find their mouthpiece is still too much of an effort & occasionally squeaky with the octave key on! Someone suggested a Meyer 6 or 7*..Do u think that might work? Not sure what the difference might be re the tip openings..Thank you for your always informative & amusing videos Dr Wally! 😁👍
I recently just bought a daddario d6m, I used to play on a Yamaha 4C. The daddario sounds very airy and feels resistant, low notes are harder to get out, and playing notes with the octave key squeak sometimes. Is it a reed problem or something else? I play on a 2.5 and 3 reeds
Dr Wally is it possible to gives us some information on what you use to record your playing in your videos?
Interesting. I always play meyer 5 on the alto. I think it has a sweet sound. On the other hand, on the Tenor I actually have both of these mouthpieces, the Meyer 7 and the D'Addario D7M. I play both with the D'addario Select Jazz 3 soft filed reeds. In my particular case I have a hard time keeping the D'Addario from being punchy and loud, It wants to scream, it takes a lot of control and thought to keep it tamed. The Meyer 7 with the same reed is breathy and subtle, it's the complete opposite. Maybe the 3 soft reeds work better on one than the other? Maybe I need a different reed altogether for each of them...I am new to the Tenor, only played 6 months, and I don't get to play it as often as I would like.
A Meyer 5 or 6 maximum is the way to go on alto., they are by far the most popular choices. Huge, open facings seem to be more of a tenor thing.
great video! Thanks, i would choose the dAddario
Thanks Andreas! The D'Addario is a good choice indeed.
Hi Dr. Wally, You made a comment about the Meyer mouthpiece made by injection molding. Actually the are made using a billet of rubber placed in a mold with an insert for the bore and chamber. The mold is closed and the rubber is pressed into shape. When that process is finished, the blank is vulcanized with heated steam to turn it into hard rubber.
Ahhhh, so not "injected." I appreciate that! I'm learning more about manufacturing as I've gotten into product development. It's fascinating!
Both mouthpieces sounded great to me. Perhaps the Meyer was a tad bit better. I'd be curious to see a comparison to a Link vs. Meyer. In one of your other videos you mentioned that they do different things. It would be interesting to get your take on what they are.
Great suggestion!
Your jazz sound is very beautiful too! It sounds A LOT like Paul Desmond's but with much more tone controll and a bigger sound in general, especially in the upper register. Don't want to be too judgy, just really appreciate it :)
That's incredibly kind, thanks Paul!
I'll receive a D'addario select jazz 6M on alto as my first upgrade, next week. Guess I'm a Toyota guy ^^. On a more serious note, I prefer the slightly darker sound.
I think you're going to be VERY happy. It's a great piece!
Meyer of course; I play my Chu Berry alto with Meyer 5M F.Hemke 3,5 ligature Rovner Dark
Great video!
Thanks Dr. Wally. You sound wonderful on both of these mouthpieces. Have you found that a mouthpiece is a lot like a woman? When you find the right one, you just know? I’ve played my Meyer 8, short facing, medium chamber, since I pulled it off the shelf at Sands music in Portland back in about 1978, or 79. Before that I was playing a Meyer that was owned by the school I was teaching at, (probably a New York USA back then) and when I changed jobs I had to give the mouthpiece back. But the Meyer 8 was love at first sight, from the first note to the last, and it’s still just as wonderful today as our first tune together. I have to admit to a few indiscretions over the years, mostly due to circumstances such as symphony, opera, concert bands, saxophone quartets where I’ve had a fling or two with a Rousseau 4R, or a Selmer CS80, mainly due to the Meyer being a little too bright for the occasion, but I always come back to that same Meyer as soon as the situation allows. I have flirted with the D5M, and it’s very good. I’ve used it in pit orchestras a few times and appreciate the control and dependable intonation, but it’s just not the same thrill as I get with the Meyer. I loved your car analogy. I’m sorry to say that while I met a life long partner on alto and also on clarinet (my Bay OL, also 70’s vintage) I’ve never met a tenor mouthpiece that has swept me off my feet like that Meyer alto mouthpiece. I’ve done Bergs, Links, Meyers, and many others, metal, rubber, you name it. Some good, some less good, but I’ve never fallen in love with that one that I knew the minute I snapped a reed on that she was the one I could be with for the rest of my life. I am playing a D’Addario D6M on tenor now, and again, it’s good, but my eyes still wander........
You play so beautiful sir!
Thank you my friend!
Kids, if you’re looking for that “perfect” jazz sound on your saxophone…sound like this. Lol. You sound so much like my old band director (who is still a terrific saxophonist). It is a crime this channel doesn’t have more subscribers and views…
I love Dr. Wallys west coast sound!, but let me add......the perfect alto sound is Phil Woods from "the Live at Showboat album".
Another Excellent n' Interesting Presentation - a tough choice but I'm siding with the Meyer - albeit somewhat reluctantly.
I keep getting questions about deciding between the two. But honestly, they're both great. I still prefer my Philtone, but I'd happily play a gig on either. Happy Wednesday, Apistosig!
@@drwallysax Philtone for alto?
Yeah, the solstice. Really love the thing once I found the right reed combo.
I wrote a full paragraph, but decided I'll just say that I prefer the D'Addario. Thanks for the comparison!
Ha! It’s apples and inconsistent oranges. I like the goofy lil’ Meyer. 🤷♂️
This is one of the better gear videos I've seen.
Did you end up finding a V16 to try? If you're into a "loaner", I have a A7 Medium Chamber V16 (SM813M) that I'm not using.
That's very kind, but I've managed to find one hidden in my box of forgotten mouthpieces. I've got a cool new Tenor piece and some others on deck, but I'll see if I can get to it!
@@drwallysax Great, looking forward to it.
Hey Wally, great comparison. Love the comedy! I use a D’addario as my main for alto. Ik we all have a different sound and different experiences with our mouthpieces, but do you think that the select jazz is more bright or dark. And idk if you have ever tried the vandoren v16 but if you have, how does it compare?
Hey Mario! In general, I feel the D'addario is one of the darker jazz alto mouthpieces on the market. With the wrong reed, it can feel a bit stuffy. I like the v16, it's quite a bit more free blowing and a great mouthpiece. I prefer a bit more resistance, but there's tons of players who sound fantastic on it. I think Alexa Tarantino plays on one - she's sounds fantastic. Happy Tuesday!
@@drwallysax thx wally. Keep it up man😄
I play D’Addario select jazz on tenor and alto. I chose them after building an extensive collection for both horns.
I think they're great pieces, especially for the price. What ligature you like to pair them with?
Saxophone Academy I like the Vandoren optimum. But I will like to try the M/O ligature to see how will the simpler less expensive version works. I’m personally not big on the gimmicky stuff I think for Example Coltrane sounded like Coltrane regardless of what ligature or sax he used. I do think that there are big differences in reeds and mouthpieces but you will always sound like you.
For me it’s more about response I like immediate response out of my equipment I don’t want to fight my gear. I did go through a lot of trial and error but when I play through my horn the combination of my alto/tenor with my chosen mouthpiece and reed the horn speaks with no hesitation and I can worry about my skill not the gear.
Been on a meyer forever and can use it for all styles of music -overtone practice is sp important
A very versatile piece to be sure!
What an excellent analogy between cars and mouthpieces. I’m sold.
Thanks Richard! I think (and teach) in analogy and metaphor, just the way my brain works. I had an adult student who was an engineer - drove him NUTS! "Wally, what the heck does that mean???"
Happy practicing my friend!
Hahaha, engineers are left brain thinkers, logic and analytical, very little right brain which is creative, artistic, visual. I guess give analogies in numerical formulas, X + Y= Anhemitonic scale. LOL
Yea I like the DAddario better I like the darker jazz tone I used to play a selmer cstar and it kind of cut off my air sometimes
I would be interested in your thoughts on the Vandoren V16? Particularly the S+, I think it fits right in with these guys in terms of price etc
They're fine mouthpieces. Well made, consistent, and a good value. The sound is just not my aesthetic. Several modern alto players use them and sound great.
Hey Mr. Wally, another "meyer copy" mouthpiece that comes to my mind is the Vandoren v16 Medium chamber! What are your thoughs on those (I am talking about alto saxs only ok)?? And how do you compare the v16 Medium chamber to the Meyer medium chamber and the DSJ ??
(But it must be the v16 MEDIUM chamber)
Thanks, and God bless!!
Hey Pedro, I'll see if I can get my hands on one.
Hi Doc, great video ! I played both of them, an 8 Meyer and a 7 D'Addario (btw, good job on the italian name..) Now I play the D'Addario, for its singing quality, nice to have it as first alto. I found your tone quite singing and focused on the D'Addario, while more airy on the Meyer. But I admit I like them both..
Hey Paolo! Molto Bene, my friend! The Dee-ahhh-dario is certainly a great piece. It didn't "feel" quite as good when playing, but listening back, I quite like it. Hope you're well!
Loving your clips. Thanks so much. Always interesting and fun.
Used to play Alto using a Meyer 7M (still have it) but now on a 6M and loving it with a harder reed (3.5 trad Vandoren).
On tenor I'm now using a Meyer 5M with 5 trad Vandoren reed. V12 - 4 good too.
General practice for easy blowing I put on a Jazz Select 4H reed.
I think the Meyers have long been overlooked for tenor. However I'm finding them great for warm in tune sound. I keep a Meyer 9M in the case for noisy gigs.
Meyer 7M on Bari. Perfect.
I should put all this in context by saying I started out many years ago on 9* Metal Links and have finally discovered the close mouthpiece with hard reed combo works best for me.
I tested a number of pieces...a few years back.. I wasn't impressed by the standard Meyer 6 (but think I got one of the bad ones, uneven facing). I picked up a D'addario Jazz Select DM6. Nice mellow sounding piece but I need more volume/projection as I do play in a full size concert band and occasionally need to solo above the band (no mics).. I'm currently selling the D'addario (I'd like to keep it for small jazz gigs or recording at home) but it fits too tightly on the neck cork and won't work if I want to use my other mouthpieces. Thinking the Meyer New York in a 6 or 7 might be my next purchase..
I know what you mean. I like the D'addario, but it just doesn't "sing" or vibrate quite like I prefer. The Meyer NY looks good, but quite a price tag for a mass produced piece.
Bit late to the party, but try a Vandoren V16, with the S+ chamber.
love the review! what are you thoughts on the vandoren v16 s+? ive seen players like danny janklow and grace kelly play on those and theyve got wicked sounds that i really admire. ive been playing a meyer 5m and i would like to know how they differentiate in sound as well as playability?
Hey Justin, thanks man. In my experience, the v16 is more focused and free blowing. It's a favorite of the more modern players. Meyer and D'addario have a broader, less focused core. This is my preference as it leans more towards my heroes: the 1950s west coast players. I dig all things mid-century retro. The Vandoren pieces are going to be VERY well made and consistent. Happy practicing man!
Saxophone Academy thanks so much! youre a big help, keep up the amazing work with your videos and ill continue to tune in!
I always play a Meyer 6. Since 1984.
I know two great pro tenor players who play the D'Addario. Good price compared to others. Strong sound.
I think I prefer it for Tenor, definitely a good piece.
@@drwallysax the tenor piece is great!
I recently nicked the side rail of my Meyer 8. Since I’ve been a junky on alto mouthpieces and bought a few mps similar to the Meyer medium. The Meyer still plays but it’s thin on top. I’ve been interested in D’Addario and thought it could be pretty similar to Meyer. Not really seen a lot of videos comparing these two. I couldn’t hear much of a difference but I like your explanation on the feel.
Glad to be of some help! I think you'll find the D'Addario actually feels more different than sounds. When I listened back to the playing samples, I'd thought there would be a bigger difference. Happy Sunday, John!
I have a D'Addario D5M that I've only played occasionally, I could never get a tone I liked on it but I wonder how much of a difference it would make if I had the larger tip openings.
The 5m is a pretty modest facing. What's your favorite piece, currently? Similar tip opening?
@@drwallysax yeah a Selmer Concept, which I mainly use for classical but been using for jazz for the time being.
Have you tried/found available a JodyJazz HR*? I'm a beginner player but when I tried a few Select Jazz's and Meyer's and Otto Link's (I'm an alto player), they were all great but the JodyJazz HR* was the smoothest and free blowing mouthpiece out of them all. I know it is a tad more expensive, but I'm just wanting to see your thoughts and opinion on the JodyJazz. Not that it really matters to me that much as I bought the JodyJazz anyway, just wanting to see your professional Doctors opinion 😅👍🏼🎷
Edit: also thanks a lot for your informative videos, I love your style and sound. I was wondering if you could recommend to me songs to listen to that are in the same style or artists to listen to that inspired your music. Cheers
Hey James, I think the JodyJazz is a VERY well made piece, even for the price. It's a bit more free blowing and aggressive than I prefer. I think this might be why these pieces are popular with more "modern" style players and work exceptionally well for fusion and R&B music. Great mouthpieces, just not my cup of tea. I prefer my metronomes and wristwatches mechanical, and my mouthpiece a bit resistant. happy practicing!
Hi Dr! Thank you for your video. I'm a beginner+ (3 years of alto) and I hesitate to upgrade on Meyer or JodyJazz HR*... For the Tip opening, how can I know if 5 or 6 is better for me without trying (no shops in my city) ?
Hi Natsheilak, I'm afraid that's a VERY tough question to answer over the internet. In general, without hearing you play, I'd wager a 5 would be a great fit. It's got plenty of power but should be forgiving as well. Let me know how it goes!
@@drwallysax Thanks for your answer ! I just ordered the Jody Jazz HR* 5, I'll let you know :)
I have the Meyer New York, is more brilliant. I love Meyer's mouthpieces. Very nice presentation! 👍🏼
Hey, thanks Ramon. I should check out NY. I assume you mean the recent release from J.J. Babbit, right? Not a vintage? Happy Tuesday, hope your summer is going well!
What if I have a bright sound naturally but want a dark sound. Should I go with the DDario
D'Addario certainly feels darker to me!
Hello doc. I m Nitin from Pune India. I m playing on a Yamaha 280 Alto with 4c and switched over to 5C mouthpiece. Is Meyer 5C compatible to my instrument ?please guide me thanks
Hi Nitin, the Meyer 5 would be a great fit for your alto! Likely paired with a 2.5 reed. Let me know if it works for you!
Those mouthpieces are awesome both, but I rather prefer the Meyer one
Just bought a Meyer 100 year anniversary 6M to try out. Are these the same as the Meyer you demonstrated?
No, different model! (haven't tried it)
Do you think you can do a video on jazz articulation? It would be so helpful
I could probably swing that. Get it?! Dad joke....I'll see myself out...
@@drwallysax this is why I'm subscribed
Then I shall not disappoint. Good information? Not likely. But dad jokes....
What is This Thing Called Love
in Concert C, ( Alto key A)
I think they are both great mouthpieces, I used to play with a Meyer 5M but as you said it has a bright sound and feels thinner on the upper register, I was looking for something more versatile and a little more resistance and I found it on the D'Addario (same tip opening) However I will always love the Meyer sound, why not having both? Haha
I agree, why not have both! My wife disagrees...
My jazz select gets super sharp when I go up the register.
Where would I look to buy one of these?
You can find these in most music stores or Amazon - or Ebay!
Doesn't the sound change depending on the type of reed?
Absolutely, but honestly the reed type (given the same relative strength) FEELS more different than it sounds when I listen back to recordings. Good question, Avon.
Hey mr. Wally, so for you the meyer is a little more freeblowing ?
Yes! it generally "feels" better to play. Have a great weekend!
I was wondering if the tip opening of 6 rather than 7 would be a huge difference?
Specially that i am upgrading from my basic mouth piece which is 4 tip opening i think
That’s a big jump from a 4 maybe you should go for the 5 or 6
@@rico._5067 So is 6 a good choice for an upgrade?
Meyer 7MM = .081"
Meyer 6MM is .076" ,
Yamaha 4c = .063"
Meyer 5MM = .071"
6MM to 7MM difference would be .005" which is a sheet of notebook paper thickness.
2 questions… in terms of buying the Meyer where would I go to buy this. I saw it on Amazon but wasn’t sure if there is a better place to get it? And the other question is what ligatures and reeds do you suggest for the Meyer?
I bought mine through Woodwind Brasswind, but Amazon should be fine. Unfortunately, I can't really recommend a reed strength having never heard you (limits of internet instruction). I'd suggest buying a few at different strengths and testing!
Any standard 2 screw brass or nickle plated ligature will work just fine, after all, that's the ligature Bird, Cannonball and Phil Woods, used in the 1940's, 50's, 60's, and 70's. They didn't need a fancy overpriced ligature, like the silver-stein ligature, those were not invented yet, and besides, a regular 2 screw ligature really works great.
The most popular reed combination for a Meyer 6MM would be the Rico Royal Blue box, 3 or 3.5, or a Vandoren Java green box 3, but everyone's chops are different. Other great reeds include, Rico select Jazz , LaVoz and Rigotti Gold jazz.
I'm not sure if you've ever checked out 10MFan mouthpieces, they are pricier (spelling?) by comparison to these but no where near Theo Wanne. I actually switched from my Meyers to them and the creator gives a very accurate description of their sound.
Just checked out the website, they look cool! Especially love the Amber color! Would love to review one, but they're pretty pricey! Any chance you know the owner?! Have a great weekend!
@@drwallysax I don't know him personally, but he seems pretty open to getting reviews of his products out there, he even asked if I had a UA-cam or other social media doodad to review the pieces (I don't, but hopefully there'll be a Some Dude on Sax UA-cam channel someday - I'm a bit late to this "series of tubes" thing)... So I'll see what I can do?
The Meyer wins in my opinion. I am hooked on Jackie Mclean's sound so you know where I'm coming from. I try to imitate his sound but difficult for me to get the darkness out of my horn. The Meyer you played had way more character to it than the other piece. I find your sound rich and full and I could pick you out of any other player including Desmond. I am curious as to how you would sound with a high baffled mouthpiece.
try the daddario with a rico plasicover--all the fatness with the meyer zing -actually they add power to anything and the tips last way longer
is it Yamaha82zul?
It's a Yamaha 875EX - I had the lacquer removed!
Hey Dr. Wallace, how are you?
Great video, I’d like to hear your thoughts on the Vandoren Java T45.
Hey Samuel, I think the Vandoren Java line are great pieces. Well made, very consistent. They've got a very aggressive baffle, that's not quite my aesthetic (I'm a nut for the 1950s cool school). I've got some pro friends who use them and sound fantastic. Are you in the market for one? Happy practicing!
Nah, I was just asking since I recently got one.
How do you like it?!
I like it a lot, it’s a very versatile piece. Have you ever thought about reviewing a Yanagisawa saxophone?
I'd like to. Not sure how to get my hands on one, local retailers don't keep them in stock.
I was wondering if you ver tried Morgan mouthpieces?
I have. Bought the large chamber 2 years ago. I had planned to do a review but hated it.
@@drwallysax thank you so much i bought D’’addario marble after i have watched your video , i love it perfect for my restaurant gigs close to the tables thank you so much for your videos and YOUR AMAZING TALENT AND HUMOR
I bought a Select Jazz D6M because I wasn't entirely happy with an Otto Link Super Tone Master 6* (I play Alto, btw). I used it pretty much exclusively for about 2 months. I like the tone, but as you mention, it is more resistant. I found compared to the Link, it had almost opposite playing characteristics - the Link requires careful voicing at the top of the range, why Select Jazz at the very bottom required work.
I think it's a very good mouthpiece, but I could never get used to that extra resistance compared to the Otto Link which felt like I was having to work too hard to play. In the end, I ordered a boutique mouthpiece (a Philtone Orion) which I find has the sound I like while being very easy to play. It's the bargain of the Philtone lineup but still considerably more expensive than either of these.
If you like less resistance, I would be somewhat wary of the Select Jazz. I've heard Meyers are more forgiving in that respect, and would definitely recommend trying them both if you're in the market. It's not a huge thing but it is noticeable.
Good observation, agreed. My main piece is actually a Philtone Solstice. I adore it and generally get annoyed during weeks I do mouthpiece reviews because I miss it. Happy Wednesday!
Hi Wally, I'd like to send you a couple of our mouthpieces for testing. Our mouthpieces are made from biocompatible resins and DLP 3D printing. Facing and table are hand finished.
Hi! That's incredibly kind and I really appreciate you reaching out. Unfortunately, I have my own line of mouthpieces (made by Windy City Woodwinds) and I'm not reviewing other brands currently. That said, they sound really cool, I'll certainly keep my eye out and be assured I'll be cheering you on!
@@drwallysax thank you very much for your reply.
The Meyer mouthpiece is legendary! GOAT
Hi Wally, one general comment: when doing mouthpiece comparisons, please consider playing the exact same musical excerpt (a Bud Shank solo, maybe?) with the same phrasing, articulation, and dynamics, and with the same reed. That way, the listener can hone in on the sonic differences in the pieces themselves rather than what you are playing. Thanks again for all the excellent videos!
Hey Aaron. I totally get your point, but intentionally avoid this. I think it's a disservice to the consumer trying to pick out micro differences. Here's why: My position to the microphone (even an inch) has a tremendous impact on the perceived tone due the proximity effect.
Also, for each mouthpiece I try to find the specific reed that makes the piece "speak." The reed variance will have a HUGE impact on perceived tonal differences as well.
Also, how the mouthpiece "feels" affects how I play. So I might inflect differently depending on how the mouthpiece reacts. In short, I don't like the strict A/B comparisons. I spend several days on each mouthpieces getting a feel for it. Finding the right voicing.
Playing, for instance, a phrase that feels great on my Phil-Tone the EXACT same way on a Meyer seems like a disservice to me.
I wanted to give a general "feel" and my impressions of each mouthpiece, more than an accurate graph on a spectroscope. I'm just not a good enough recording engineer to do this accurately (in my opinion). There are some people who do this REALLY well, but it's probably not for me.
@@drwallysax Your in-depth reply makes a lot of sense, Wally. Thanks!
May I just ask, are you ever going to do any tenor videos
Not sure. Any topic in particular you're interested in?
@@drwallysax Not necessarily, its just that ive seen the tenor heaps of times set up in the backround but never heard you play it
Send a fingering chart, and I'll give it a go!
The Meyer was my first good piece. I tried all of the $23 Rico pieces and the Hites and some other sub $50 pieces. I wish I hadn't wasted my time on money on the crap.
One other thing to mention is the current Meyers do have more "customization". I know for sure they have S, M, L facing options and I believe they also have S, M, L chamber options but I'm not 100% certain. This probably adds even more to the inconsistency observation you made for the Meyers. D'Addario only has a medium chamber with what I assume is a medium facing. As you pointed out, it seems the main difference between the pieces is the variety vs consistency aspect. Both are excellent pieces though. I happen to prefer my Marble D'Addario D6 but still love my Meyer 7S when I have the right reed. I personally liked your sound a bit more on the D'Addario too :).
You're absolutely right, they do come in 3 chamber sizes. Also, now in the NY and "R" variants. The four I tested were all 7M - not as inconsistent as my old Rousseau pieces - but not as consistent as the D'Addario. I think the Marble is fantastic, and good looking too!
wally you have great tone what about reeds >
First off - thanks! For these demo videos - both were played on a D'Addario select jazz 3H unfiled. I've since switched to Boston Sax Shop 3.5. I'll be covering reeds much more in depth in future videos. Thanks for the question, Tommy - happy practicing!
What reed do you use?
D'Addario select jazz - 3 hard (unfiled)
@@drwallysax Thank you very much!
I have both.
Which do you prefer, Mr. Wolf?
@@drwallysax hi doctor, it depends on the situation. I drive mustang when I give hot girl a ride, I drive Toyota when I take my mom to supermarket. anyway, I love both, but love meyer a little bit more.
@@WOLF-xo2xg Right on.
You should look into AM Mouthpieces
I reached out to Arnold. He never got back to me.
@@drwallysax I'll contact him for you. He's a friend of mine on Facebook.
I played both the D'addario and Meyer, and for me the D'addario doesn't even compare, the meyer just sounds so much better. But this is the vintage meyer that I got for only 40 bucks more than the price of D'addario
I really like how you panned the backing track hard left and the sax hard right. That way I can just mute the left channel, and only hear the saxes.
I think tip opening is overrated, unless the differences are drastic. IMO more attention should be paid to the baffle and chamber size. The differences here are marginalized by the fact that Dr. Wally makes both of these pieces sound great and any student/amateur would probably find bigger differences based on their technique or skill level. The one thing I disagree with is the intention that these are "step up" mouthpieces between the student line and the pro level. If one can find their sound on either of these mouthpieces they could play them for the rest of their lives. Phil Woods, Cannonball Adderley and Lou Donaldson all played Meyer's for most, if not all of their careers.
In sound, sure.
But I feel like I'm blowing through a cocktail straw with small tip openings, and comfort matters
D'addario.
Ok
you can tell he has more a vibe with the Meyer
I have both these mouthpieces in a 5 and I much prefer the Meyer. The D'Addario just lacks any real character. It's well made, efficient but ultimately boring, I think your car analogy is spot on.
I agree completely!
With playing that good, I don’t quite understand why you aren’t a household name. You need a publicist!
There’s simply nothing in your playing that’s any less complete or beautiful than so many of my favorite artists from the 50s
You. I like you.
The Meyer Soprano is very stuffy and resistant.
Both sound too open giving your sound an overly dark, airy, almost C-melody / tenor vibe. The classic Meyer sound of Phil Woods or Cannonball were produced with NY Meyer 5M. Not feeling the 7M, but if I had to choose, obviously it would be the Meyer.
He has a west coast sound that's perfect!
You have such a killah’ sound…
That just made my day, thanks Yves!
i cant hear any different sir
It's subtle, to be sure.
D addario have more armonics
Use a higher airstream, and active your nasal cavity for resonance, like a good singer does. You play well, but your sound is non-resonant. Need more ring. 👍
Yes, sharp edges = CHEAP.