The Future Nintendo Left Behind | F-Zero Retrospective

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  • Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
  • At some point, I figured that if I had enough hot takes in a row, I'd overheat. So, I decided to talk about something I like. Something... I'd actually be sharing with people, as it's no doubt gonna be unfamiliar to most. Here's a little video on F-ZERO. Now in 1440p!
    Wait... whaddya mean I made it 50 minutes long again?!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 645

  • @DesignDoc
    @DesignDoc 3 роки тому +374

    No other futuristic racing game so far comes close to scratching the same itch as F-Zero in terms of precise and twitchy control, unforgiving challenge, or even personality. F-Zero is worth bringing back but it'd be one hell of an uphill battle to sell more people on F-Zero and Nintendo clearly isn't interested in making the effort for it since they already have semi-similar properties that already appeal to a much wider audience.

    • @magicjohnson3121
      @magicjohnson3121 3 роки тому +5

      Fast RMX is great check that out. Super fast. Maybe even faster than F-Zero

    • @DesignDoc
      @DesignDoc 3 роки тому +43

      @@magicjohnson3121 Fast RMX is solid but it's closer in feel to Wipeout instead of F-Zero. The handling in general is more floaty in Fast RMX. Not bad but it doesn't scratch the same itch.

    • @magicjohnson3121
      @magicjohnson3121 3 роки тому

      There is hero mode which is basically f-Zero mode 😉

    • @Dzzy123
      @Dzzy123 3 роки тому +5

      I hate that other futuristic racers have been neglected. Wipeout doesn't get new iterations often, the Extreme-G series is dead, and other games like Kinetica never got sequels.

    • @staffzx
      @staffzx 3 роки тому +4

      Shout outs to Wipeout and Episode 1 Racer

  • @dragondelsur5156
    @dragondelsur5156 3 роки тому +169

    "See you again!"
    Top 10 cruelest lies in gaming

    • @TheSilverLeaf79
      @TheSilverLeaf79 3 роки тому +8

      Saddest anime ending.

    • @dragons_hook
      @dragons_hook 3 роки тому +16

      Well, we did get GX after the end of X (1998) so it wasn't technically a lie. It definitely still hurts though...

    • @Blueflag04
      @Blueflag04 3 роки тому +4

      Pain

    • @TheDr502
      @TheDr502 11 днів тому

      We did see F-Zero a couple of more times to be fair. It's not like it vanished after F-Zero X.
      Ah, who am I kidding?

  • @OffAirProductions
    @OffAirProductions 3 роки тому +220

    I sincerely appreciate that Nagoshi continues to show interest in a serious continuation of the F-Zero franchise, even if he is seemingly talking to a gigantic Nintendo-shaped brick wall. I'm all too confident that the series may not be able to "innovate" past its current state, but GX alone is such a unique game that I would not mind seeing *more* of that. The future of racing released 18 years ago, and I feel like the whole world deserves another taste of "the future".

    • @LostSoulSilver
      @LostSoulSilver 3 роки тому +6

      Why not make a F-Zero GX remaster on the Switch? Why? WHYYY??

    • @inendlesspain4724
      @inendlesspain4724 3 роки тому +4

      @@LostSoulSilver Cause I can already see Nintendo charging $60 for it.

    • @LostSoulSilver
      @LostSoulSilver 3 роки тому +7

      @@inendlesspain4724 A small price to pay for the salvation of F-Zero

    • @beanieboi7743
      @beanieboi7743 3 роки тому

      Realistically f zero likely would have to innovate to even be successful considering f zero never sold super well so of they just make or rereleases an f-zero title really similar to old ones it is likely to fail

    • @ShadowMark3_
      @ShadowMark3_ 3 роки тому +3

      Nagoshi should've made the Kart racer mini game in Yakuza 7/Like a Dragon an F Zero successor instead.

  • @fluury
    @fluury 3 роки тому +335

    Miyamoto's statement regarding the "oh, we must innovate at ALL COSTS" is a pretty frustrating statement primarily because this entire notion isn't shared with half the games Nintendo farts out. Kirby, for example, isn't exactly evolving much. It's the same game with a new mild gimmick every game, yet the forced spirit of innovation isn't preventing those games from shipping.
    So many years have passed, a remake of GX would be worth it just because an entire new generation could have their hand at it. What do I want from a new F-Zero game? Well, F-Zero. You don't need to reinvent the wheel every single time to do well, and Nintendo certainly knows this.

    • @parapepper4605
      @parapepper4605 3 роки тому +43

      Miyamoto's statement on F-Zero and DICE's stance on Battlefield Bad Company 2 might be some of the biggest blunders in understanding your market in the video game industry.

    • @NintendanGX
      @NintendanGX 3 роки тому +62

      What baffles me as well is that Miyamoto barely had much involvement with F-Zero to begin with. It's not his idea, or his creation. He played a fairly minor role in its creation. So the fact that he's preventing others from making a successor to GX is baffling to me.

    • @radiokunio3738
      @radiokunio3738 3 роки тому +43

      Let's aslo not forget the ironically named "New Super Mario Bros" series which has yet to meanfully change with its four games.

    • @Thebes342
      @Thebes342 3 роки тому +29

      For real, we don't need a new hit-or-miss gimmick for every new game, that's supposed to "take the gaming world by storm" or anything like that. Sometimes, people just want a fun, competent, or familiar video game...

    • @skibot9974
      @skibot9974 3 роки тому +7

      Well Miyamoto has nothing to do with Kirby and Mario is a much better seller

  • @magicjohnson3121
    @magicjohnson3121 3 роки тому +245

    Press F for F-Zero, Advanced Wars, Star Fox, Kid Icarus, Golden Sun and Sin & Punishment.

    • @MagillanicaLouM
      @MagillanicaLouM 3 роки тому +22

      I wouldn't add star fox among those. Mixed as Zero's reception is, it's still a fairly recent thing, plus they officially released the previously cancelled star fox 2 not long ago either. Kid Icarus though seems especially cruel. You have a whole huge revival after like 30 years that's universally beloved and I imagine decently successful yet just... Leave it after that. Though I guess it's moreso just the bad luck of sharing your main producer with smash bros and we all which project Nintendo would rather have him prioritize

    • @Eichro
      @Eichro 3 роки тому +13

      @@MagillanicaLouM Star Fox was in life support before Zero. After Zero's fiasco, it's as good as dead.

    • @MagillanicaLouM
      @MagillanicaLouM 3 роки тому +3

      @@Eichro it's still more going for it than all those other series atm lol. There was also 643D too i forgot to mention. Though given Miyamotos the guy in charge of where star fox goes it seems, yeah he probably won't do much next if he still has his "innovate the gameplay or don't bother" mentality. Ignoring that from what I've seen Zero is just a prettier 64 with motion controls. It'd make more sense to build off the set up Assault seemed to have going

    • @brana1646
      @brana1646 3 роки тому +3

      Damn your comment pisses me off. Because it's so true! 😭

    • @iyaguex
      @iyaguex 3 роки тому +11

      Don't forget Punch-Out!!.

  • @Theun_TV
    @Theun_TV 3 роки тому +114

    Someone recently posted an 'F-Zero 99' idea on the F-Zero subreddit.
    Basicly the SNES F-Zero online with 98 other racers. After each lap only the the top X racers can continue. (Just like in the original game, only now going until 1 person is left). So a 99-game for Switch online, but with F-Zero.
    To me that sounds like a perfect way to reintroduce F-Zero. Anyone interested should look it up on the F-Zero subreddit.

    • @omgxab2223
      @omgxab2223 3 роки тому +2

      This sounds just like the Bomberman game for the Switch.

    • @westonmeyer3110
      @westonmeyer3110 Рік тому +23

      That will never happen. LMAO!!!

    • @raisinbran7480
      @raisinbran7480 Рік тому +31

      Well looks like that Reddit poster was a time traveler from September 14th 2023 because he basically described the new F-Zero 99 to a T

    • @NeverSaySandwich1
      @NeverSaySandwich1 Рік тому +13

      DUDE WHAT

    • @carlbloke8797
      @carlbloke8797 Рік тому +12

      BRO DO I GOT GOOD NEWS FOR YOU!!!!!

  • @Kuwumii
    @Kuwumii 3 роки тому +117

    Nothing makes a person feel more powerful than having won all the F-Zero GX grand prix cups in all difficulties

    • @Sans-Soucii
      @Sans-Soucii 3 роки тому +2

      Especially when you unlock all the character movies.

    • @ayar2
      @ayar2 3 роки тому +2

      Im one of those few selected, got all the cups, on all the difficulties with all the machines, but while I felt realized and satisfied, the sheer frustration it made me endure left me with no incentive to do it again, so I just retired altogether, after that, whenever I find myself playing it again I do it on normal difficulty at best, so I could better appreciate other aspects like the visuals or music. Im one of those that feel that a sequel is not that necessary just because the last entry was almost a Magnus Opus, so at least the franchise died while it was on its Climax (no pun intended).
      that being said, I temporally returned to the racetrack when the FAST series debuted, and I can certainly consider it a worthy spiritual successor.

    • @Blueflag04
      @Blueflag04 3 роки тому +1

      Without losing any time

  • @iggyminious
    @iggyminious 3 роки тому +284

    "To say the CG animation hasn't aged well would falsely imply that it looked great for the time." That's a line I don't see used nearly enough.

    • @keslerjenkins9683
      @keslerjenkins9683 3 роки тому +25

      eh. I like the CG personnally. Has a lot of personality

    • @custom-r
      @custom-r 3 роки тому +16

      @@keslerjenkins9683 Yeah the CG was impressive looking, much like the game for 2003.

    • @SonplaysMinEcraft
      @SonplaysMinEcraft 3 роки тому +5

      dose hair physics doe

    • @dhLord64
      @dhLord64 3 роки тому +13

      Uhh the cg actually looked good for a 2003 game though like what

    • @skibot9974
      @skibot9974 3 роки тому +1

      @@dhLord64 no Jimmy Neutron looked better

  • @BranFlaixx
    @BranFlaixx 3 роки тому +41

    Eeeey man, this was great. As much as I love Captain Falcon as a character, I haven't gotten around to playing these games yet. You've certainly put me in the mood to do so, very soon.

  • @razorvolare
    @razorvolare 3 роки тому +47

    What I want with a new F-Zero is 30 Player Online Multiplayer & all tracks from SNES to GBA to Gamecube to return. Give it the same love Mario Kart got. Also, Pro F-Zero GP where there's no extra lives & retry; You crash & retire--Next Track w/ no points earned...and maybe Esport Tournaments? Finally; NO FORCED GIMMICK CONTROLS. I love Starfox Zero & the controls clicked with me but I'm minority--option select of classic or new stuff. If you wanna make motion controls for F-Zero; go for it long as I can still play like I always have since SNES/N64.

    • @xraiderblack1850
      @xraiderblack1850 3 роки тому +1

      I think a lot of people would like to see that, myself included; it's basically the SSBU of F-Zero. But, Nintendo's Online Service has a lot to be desired. They should probably fix that first.

    • @hairyballs089
      @hairyballs089 Рік тому

      If they could do that and make it as fun and twitchy as GX, then I think Nintendo would have a best seller.

    • @BladedStrider
      @BladedStrider Рік тому

      Well, now you have F-Zero 99. It ain't much, but uh, _Online_ I guess?

  • @adamdonnelly6470
    @adamdonnelly6470 3 роки тому +58

    After Star Fox Zero, Miyamoto's "new control schemes being the only way forward for dormant IP" argument holds about as much water as a leaky bucket. Weird as it sounds, I'd much prefer it if the financial prospects of F-Zero were the main thing holding it back than one stubborn creative being its gatekeeper. I think some manner of battle royale multiplayer would be a good fit for the series' cutthroat, 30+ racer action.

    • @cpthurme
      @cpthurme 3 роки тому +4

      Nice idea. I preferred the X physics of ramming cars over GX feel.

    • @ShibuNub3305
      @ShibuNub3305 3 роки тому +5

      I would totally play F-Zero 99

    • @skibot9974
      @skibot9974 3 роки тому +4

      I doubt it’s just Miyamoto stopping it

    • @OscarSanchez-vo9dx
      @OscarSanchez-vo9dx 2 роки тому +1

      Hell all we really need is GX with online, there's plenty of characters, plenty of tracks, it plays well, it has a story, you can make custom machines, online multiplayer is really all we need

    • @beesbeesbeesbeesbees
      @beesbeesbeesbeesbees Рік тому

      On the one hand - a sort of racer battle royale would work wonders with the F-Zero formula, and I'd personally utterly adore it.
      On the other hand... I feel like PowerPoint presentations would have a higher frame rate than a reasonably modern F-Zero game using NSO

  • @seedstun4581
    @seedstun4581 3 роки тому +54

    "My time has not yet passed."
    Captain Falcon, F-Zero X.

  • @tigersonalex
    @tigersonalex 3 роки тому +48

    Captain Falcon is too cool not to have one last ultimate flashy high speed adventure

    • @smh9902
      @smh9902 3 роки тому +3

      Miyamoto says that it needs "innovation" and many disagree, including myself. However, F-zero does need something. It needs completion, a zenith to reach. GX came close, but not quite. GX does not have an X-cup, F-Zero X did. GX did not have a custom track maker and editor, X did. Neither supported online play, and X in my opinion had a much better aesthetic, art, and music direction, a "heavy metal" magazine vibe rather than GX's generic techno vibe (and dont get me wrong, I like techno, but F-Zero is best as a well done "heavy metal 2000" vibe). F-Zero X also had the "death race" (basically battle) mode, and GX did not. GX had the story mode, missions, and far superior graphical quality. GX also had custom machines, which X did not. Lastly, the biggest "innovation" that could be done for F-zero would be Virtual Reality visor compatibility for a genuine first person in the machine perspective. A shift in perspective like this can go a long way to a radically different gameplay experience. F-Zero needs to be completed, not innovated. Its like a David statue, 95% completed, all the pieces are there to reach perfection. So close, yet so far.

  • @Nighttale233
    @Nighttale233 3 роки тому +40

    "Sony only barely supports its smaller series and leaves them to die."
    Nintendo: HOLD MY BEER

    • @segaspice4062
      @segaspice4062 3 роки тому +7

      Sega: Hold my Bar full of Beer

    • @turtleanton6539
      @turtleanton6539 3 роки тому +2

      Alexkiddd streets of rage is back

    • @segaspice4062
      @segaspice4062 3 роки тому

      @@turtleanton6539 Yay, hopefully they revive Jet Set Radio next

    • @segaspice4062
      @segaspice4062 3 роки тому +1

      @@turtleanton6539 You forgot Monkey Ball

  • @ThatBugBehindYou
    @ThatBugBehindYou 3 роки тому +87

    When the last major game involves the main character defeating the creators themselves I imagine it's hard to think of a sequel.

    • @pronounjow
      @pronounjow 3 роки тому +6

      Pokemon Gen IV had Arceus. Game Freak still went further, regardless of game quality...

    • @Next-xm2dh
      @Next-xm2dh 3 роки тому +1

      Reboot the series or put someone else as captain falcon

    • @pronounjow
      @pronounjow 3 роки тому

      @@Next-xm2dh Okay, but what's the story? What's the conflict(s)? What are the plot points? What is the premise? The F-Zero story was already a bit basic, unfortunately... Although I think GX made an excellent attempt with such limited material! Maybe a prequel where we see Captain Falcon become who he is, or a series of prequels...

    • @MagillanicaLouM
      @MagillanicaLouM 3 роки тому

      @@pronounjow Or a story couldn't matter much, GX was the only real attempt at one to my knowledge and even that was mostly nonsensical. They can do whatever they want

    • @pronounjow
      @pronounjow 3 роки тому +2

      @@MagillanicaLouM Right, but they haven't been able to figure out what they want with a new F-Zero, which is an even more strange position nowadays. We the players know what we want (HD, online, track editor (even better with the touchscreen on Switch like Mario Maker 2), and now the ability to play the same game on the go on Switch), but that won't get Nintendo to green-light a new F-Zero if they keep looking back at the 2003-2004 period as the last sales reference. That's also extremely strange considering how long ago that time period was and how the gaming landscape has changed so much since then.

  • @Lowart
    @Lowart 3 роки тому +18

    Awesome video! Wonderfully structured and well-written. I thoroughly enjoyed the whole thing.

    • @JebZone
      @JebZone  3 роки тому +3

      Wow! Thank you! I've seen your stuff before too and really love it, so I had to do a double take here. That means a lot!

    • @turboDrowsy
      @turboDrowsy 3 роки тому

      Ayyyye, Lowart making an appearance!

  • @Rickxekken
    @Rickxekken 3 роки тому +18

    Miyamoto: What do you want from F-Zero that we had never done before?
    Me: A 30 player intense racing game with *good* online multiplayer

  • @Casualias
    @Casualias 3 роки тому +10

    I have so many fond memories of throwing my controller at that GX story mode. Thanks for covering this franchise, Jeb!

  • @telekinesticman
    @telekinesticman 3 роки тому +27

    I was always interested in F-Zero, played a bit of the original SNES one and a tiny bit of GX and holy shit, even just watching the N64 F-Zero X part of this video made me realise how badly I really need to play these for real. Love that lightning fast speed, and have always adored the music, especially the remixes in MK8 because that jazz/rock fusion is godlike.

  • @DeadCell33
    @DeadCell33 3 роки тому +5

    Every year since like 06 I've been waiting for a new F-Zero announcement and every year I die a little more on the inside.

  • @SoulfulZane
    @SoulfulZane 3 роки тому +25

    Solid A+, Cabrera would be proud. Was fun helping you film and record my dude, HMU anytime you need more recorded! Really makes me wanna get into the series, but like the title says.. it's left behind, gone, reduced to atoms, much like Nintendo's integrity.

  • @ProtectorOfMemes
    @ProtectorOfMemes 3 роки тому +6

    A love letter to a more or less long forgotten series if I've ever seen one. The wait was certainly worth it.

  • @ThatWolfFromHyruleGaming
    @ThatWolfFromHyruleGaming 3 роки тому +8

    There was no other series like it. Pulse pounding music, adrenalin rush racing, blazing through tight corners and spirals, hitting mind blowing speed and ripping through tracks, all the variety of characters that had their own themes, the distinctive locations and course variety...
    I wish Nintendo would bring it back. It won't have the same spirit or soul. GX was the last of the great games and the peak of the series. I had the pleasure and frustration of mastering the game and loved the challenge. Beating the game was so rewarding. I miss that era of Nintendo...

  • @ghhn4505
    @ghhn4505 3 роки тому +5

    That ending kicked me in the emotional nuts.

  • @Lightning-ig2do
    @Lightning-ig2do 3 роки тому +9

    I wonder what would be more surprising: a new F-Zero announcement, or a Sonic Adventure 3 announcement.

  • @RedheadButNotReally
    @RedheadButNotReally 3 роки тому +3

    No lie, F-Zero GX is one of my favorite racing games of all time. It's _criminal_ we haven't gotten another one (in America) since then.

  • @TWIP98
    @TWIP98 3 роки тому +14

    But what does this have to do with the Sonic?

  • @26th_Primarch
    @26th_Primarch 3 роки тому +48

    Hell I look at how the story mode was done in GX and it reminds me a ton of professional wrestling like the WWE.

    • @custom-r
      @custom-r 3 роки тому +14

      I'm actually shocked more people aren't trying to make F-Zero based creations in WWE games.

    • @26th_Primarch
      @26th_Primarch 3 роки тому +3

      @@custom-r Yeah that is surprising.

  • @kukukachu
    @kukukachu 11 місяців тому +1

    "Hey all you people" is probably one of the best openings to a video I have ever heard :D

  • @dontcallmesteve9106
    @dontcallmesteve9106 Рік тому +1

    I would love to see more of the world and interactions between the characters. There's so much that was implied to exist from the racer profiles, aliens that came from war-torn planets to race for their people, deranged war veterans, hair-brained biological experiments, cyborgs, psychopaths, undead returning from centuries past to race again, or just dudes trying to raise money for their orphanage. It's all wacky and silly, and each character has such a unique flavor that they feel like protagonists in their own anime.
    Seeing such a diverse and eclectic setting built upon, with a narrative embrace for the wildness of the characters that inhabit it, would be a fantastic starting point for a sequel.
    They have a very rich world that they've built, and it would be a shame for that to be unexplored.

  • @moki4011
    @moki4011 3 роки тому +14

    I’m more glad that you watched the anime lol because I feel like the only person who has. This is a great video man, I hope someday we get a remake of this game!

  • @Tiosh
    @Tiosh 3 роки тому +1

    1. Instead of recharge ground, have it recharge orbs/barriers. This allows getting the same charge no matter what speed you go through the recharge zone.
    2. Instead of instant death after shield depleted/falling off course, have a Latichu type mechanic pull you to the center of the road but takes a long ass time. This ensures no one is totally out of the fight making everyone you've knocked out a threat possible later in the race.
    3. Make courses slightly longer and/or make it more laps. All the actual professional races in the real word are built off of endurance as well as who is the fastest. This helps point 2 giving the knocked back players a chance to come back for revenge.
    4. Make courses travel to different places like how they do it in the Outrun series. You're telling me for how fast these machines are going they never travel beyond the zone's limits?
    5. Add assist "items". Notice I didn't say "weapons" since this isn't a Mario Kart type series. Like auto pilot for X seconds. Or an ability to freeze time so only you can go for X seconds while everyone is frozen for that time. These types of items don't punish good players but it helps the people in the back. Also for "expert play" simply turn these items off.
    6. Force pit stops like they do in some professional racers. Like lose the ability to grip the road for example. Also for example going too fast and too often could tear up your machine forcing you to pitstop.
    7. Make attacking consume even a small amount of energy. Now this becomes a gambling situation. Do you really want to attack and miss and now you have less energy?
    8. Make a perfect timed block on attackers. Like the parry system from 3rd Strike. Gain some energy from a perfect block and retaliate if you wish. If you wish because your attack could also be perfect timed blocked back. In addition, mis-timing the block makes you lose energy forcing people to stop spamming attempting to block.
    9. In addition to 8 this one is debatable: Make boost and health/shield two separate bars? The person in the front doesn't have to attack meanwhile everyone behind has to juggle between attacking/blocking/boosting if it's still just one bar.
    10. In addition to 8: Make the spin attack also perfect time blockable and make the spinner completely stop and machine disabled for X seconds. This puts a gamble situation do you really want to spin attack. Flip side successful spin attacks gives much health/shield back.
    11. Add "boost zones" like a warp speed section. Taking someone out here puts the person in grave deficit since the person taken out now had to start at the back of the boost zone.
    12. Evolving stages. Say lap 2 a comet destroys a section of the course now that part of the stage is no longer usable. If a person who's being lapped just so happens to be in that comet's path? Too bad, you're too slow, you're being lapped anyway.
    13. Choice evolving stages. Whoever is in the lead from lap 1 the start of lap 2 gets to choose what events happen to change the course.
    14. Like how Mario Kart does it now why not have stages with no laps, just a straight shot to the finish. This is kind of point 4.
    15. More racers at once, increase the number to 50 or even 100.
    16. Mario Kart and GTA5 actually already did this but imagine a futuristic version: machine goes from ground vehicle to underwater vehicle to aircraft mid race for certain parts of the track.
    17. Have checkpoints. This is really just to help stop glitching the game for some "speedrunners" and this is just a personal point for me. It's not impressive to me when I see your machine just flying around the air off the track and magically you're already on lap 2. By putting checkpoints all throughout the laps this helps stop this exploit.
    I fucking love GX and badly want a new F-Zero.

  • @TheDesignerdogz
    @TheDesignerdogz 3 роки тому +2

    honestly, i wanted to see a game that focuses on captain falcon's bounty hunter days. something like a batman arkham city but with captain falcon

  • @SQGReviewShow
    @SQGReviewShow 3 роки тому +3

    Fantastic retrospective, Jeb. I've waited 11 months for this. It was worth the wait! Looking forward to the next upload, because while you may not upload regularly, the audience is always in for a treat on the occasions you do upload.

  • @andreware2039
    @andreware2039 3 роки тому +3

    It got me thinking about the xgra racing games at the end of the video.
    I guess I can't be too bummed about these games dying 😔

  • @STYLIX_
    @STYLIX_ 3 роки тому +35

    Guess whose back? Back again? Jeb is back. Tell your friends.

  • @dragons_hook
    @dragons_hook 3 роки тому +12

    50:41 You actually did it man! The way you combined X and GX in that ending... that actually pulled a tear out of me. That was fantastic!

  • @savy4266
    @savy4266 3 роки тому +1

    I have an idea:
    F zero NX
    Campaign is extremely linear story driven with a focus on racing and segments of Arkham-style beat em up sections where you collect bounties.
    There can be a score attack more to see how long you can last and how long of a combo chain you can maintain
    But the main mode and multiplayer mode remains as the racing experience.
    They can bring track creator mode that was from the DD

  • @2yoyoyo1Unplugged
    @2yoyoyo1Unplugged 3 роки тому +9

    43:18 shot me all the way back to my childhood watching shitty early 2000s AMVs and YTPs. I vividly remember this as something that was somewhat of an early meme on UA-cam.

  • @elfiebranford9330
    @elfiebranford9330 3 роки тому +9

    Having recently gotten into F-Zero this past week, playing both the original for SNES and X for N64, this video was EXACTLY what I needed right now. I cannot thank you enough for bringing attention to a series as great yet forgotten as this one ;w;

  • @Rikmaniax
    @Rikmaniax 3 роки тому +1

    Nagoshi's been working on the yakuza series for the past 15 years and when you think about it a polished and improved GX like racing experience with some Yakuza like overworld missions where you can do crazy cinematic falcon punches and falcon kicks on enemies would be rad as hell. For fucks sake, Falcon's main occupation is of a bounty hunter. Just give us some of those bounty hunts with Yakuza gameplay.

  • @tanookiplayer
    @tanookiplayer 3 роки тому +10

    F-Zero is my favourite racing series ever so it's a shame that it's been absent for so long. I don't think a sequel needs to reinvent the wheel every time so it's a shame that Miyamoto has that mentality. I don't think he contributing much to the series besides maybe producer or supervisor but I believe he has a lot of involvement in many of Nintendo's decisions. I would just love a new F-Zero game like GX on modern systems with online. I'm impressed with your F-Zero skills. The only characters I beat Grand Prix on the highest difficulty was Bio Rex & Falcon.

  • @Sultanachan123
    @Sultanachan123 3 роки тому +2

    I feel a connection with this video since i watched it when I had diarrhea on my father's house on bed. Pretty awful time all things considered, but it kinda gave me a connection to a UA-cam video i never had before or since. So, thank you ig?

  • @knux333jw
    @knux333jw 3 роки тому +2

    Don't mind me, just a 2 month late comment dropping here...
    Tbh, I've always been fascinated with the world of F-Zero just thanks to its music in Smash and obviously the walking badass meme that is the Captain of Falcons. Though I'd be lying if I didn't admit that my look into the series was a bit... rough. F-Zero X through Wii VC was my first game, and playing it with my brothers was bizarre to me. As kids that basically grew up on Mario Kart, this game was a shock to us lol. And while I've since given the series more chances by revisiting other games, it still never clicked with me personally. I like the wacky premise, the futuristic aesthetic, the world, and all... but I've always felt like F-Zero would be better if slightly taken in some new direction. That's... obviously not ideal to F-Zero fans of course, and trust me, I understand the pain of a series transforming into something very different. But I feel like for the characters it has and the world it has, it has some potential outside of racing alone.
    But that's just me. Great video!

  • @AstralPhnx
    @AstralPhnx 2 роки тому

    Fun fact about the Triforce arcade board, it supports the GD-Rom drive attachments used by the Sega Naomi and Naomi 2 with NO modifications. They just deadass plug straight into the board

  • @MasterSwordRemix
    @MasterSwordRemix 3 роки тому +9

    Great video! While I do worry that a new entry could only be inferior to GX, I would trust those AV veterans to get it right if Nintendo would let them. I really don't want much, just some graphics on the level of Mario Kart 8, new cups, a new story, online mulitplayer and maybe bring back the track editor for longevity. Definitely don't need forced gimmicks like Star Fox Zero haha

  • @Nintendude.
    @Nintendude. 3 роки тому +4

    So much can be done for F-Zero.

    • @custom-r
      @custom-r 3 роки тому

      Really it can. When indie devs bust out their own spins on it, it just really makes the excuses pathetically laughable.

  • @megasoniczxx
    @megasoniczxx 3 роки тому +6

    F-Zero I feel isn't really the type of series that needs to innovate all that much considering I would still say there aren't ANY games on the market since they stopped that replicates its gameplay (alot of the indie futuristic racers are more Wipeout in design rather than F-Zero with only one off hand I can think of that actually did try to be F-Zero) and like you mentioned, small mechanical changes, improvements to what's already there and new track ideas would already be good enough places to start with a sequel.
    I also just think if Nintendo isn't intent on making a new game, they could at least make the games themselves more widely accessible since your best bet for F-Zero X is through the old eshop channels (one of which is already shutdown and I can only forsee the Wii U's closing soon too) or emulation and F-Zero GX just straight up hasn't even had another release so unless you still own a backwards compatible Wii or a Gamecube, you can't even play those. The franchise in general is just really in a tough spot right now and I feel like Nintendo's only gonna shoot it in the foot going forward instead of trying to bring it back in some fashion and in the right light.

  • @shmittymaloggian192
    @shmittymaloggian192 3 роки тому +1

    " I will not die... Nor my dreams!"
    -Black Shadow

  • @parapepper4605
    @parapepper4605 3 роки тому +11

    Thank you for covering this fantastic series. I love my Assetto Corsa, iRacing, and Gran Turismo, but I still maintain that F-Zero GX is one of the greatest racing games ever made. It's up there in my mind with NFS Most Wanted as one of best experiences to have for fun racing.

  • @FatalityFalcon
    @FatalityFalcon Рік тому

    This was a great video, maybe one day (copium) we'll get some awesome race car driver by day, bounty hunter by night F-Zero game, but reminiscing will have to do in the meantime.

  • @Quip_
    @Quip_ 3 роки тому +11

    31:07 everything about this scene is perfect

  • @cameroncasimir7069
    @cameroncasimir7069 3 роки тому +13

    *Jeb uploaded. Impossible, perhaps the archives are incomplete.*

    • @SoulfulZane
      @SoulfulZane 3 роки тому +1

      If a video does not appear on his channel, it does not exist!

  • @Jackattack359
    @Jackattack359 3 роки тому +2

    The story of GX is all kinds of silly and I still love it😂

  • @0rnery0verwatch
    @0rnery0verwatch 9 місяців тому

    "Forever he will be my heeeeeeeeero!" lol so funny you ended the video with that... love it.

  • @retroasurada5033
    @retroasurada5033 7 місяців тому

    Miyamoto: We ran out of ideas for a new F-Zero.
    Me: Have you ever seen an F-Zero game with a track builder and online multiplayer that also allows you to share custom tracks online?

  • @Captain_Flood
    @Captain_Flood 3 роки тому +4

    Glad to have you back!

  • @dragons_hook
    @dragons_hook 3 роки тому +1

    14:50 THEY ALL JUST DIED!!! Man, X-CUP had some brutal inventions!!!

  • @Wandermidget
    @Wandermidget 3 роки тому +6

    I know it's a bit frustrating, but not many IPs can say they died on a good note as F-Zero did. And F-Zero does (sorta) live on through Mario Kart.
    Way way better of a fate than being dragged through the mud and carried solely by meme power or being strapped to a generator, drained dry of all of its resources, but continues on because it continues to put out big numbers-or just completely forgotten to the passage of time.

  • @kingdingring9719
    @kingdingring9719 3 роки тому +11

    This is the best video on F-Zero

  • @bigbluebuttonman1137
    @bigbluebuttonman1137 3 роки тому +1

    I managed to beat F-Zero GX’s GPs on master difficulty. All that’s left is the story mode. But I need an emulator for it.
    It pissed me off, but it is still my favorite racing game.
    Goddamn, it is such a wonderfully done game…

  • @tristancrumpler400
    @tristancrumpler400 3 роки тому +6

    Never listened to the GX OST, but it's uncanny how similar your samples were to the original Sonic Riders soundtrack, especially Babylon gsrden and Babylon Guardian.
    I unironocally love the sonic riders soundtrack. Interesting to see that you mentioned shadow in this video as carry-over assets.

  • @turboDrowsy
    @turboDrowsy 3 роки тому +16

    This was a great video. But the ending was a bit conflicting to me.
    While I can appreciate the sentiment that F-Zero ending without the company churning.out a new entry every year, I still can’t say I really think X or GX are feeling like the pinnacle that they once were.
    Sure, there might be a lot of passion. But a lot of the new content in GX feels pretty half-baked. But then again, so does X.
    F-Zero even today has its flaws rolled up on it’s sleeve, but I still highly enjoy it because it offers an expierence no other series can offer, not even the indie developers that attempt to say they’re inspired by this series.
    I hope it comes back, and fixes issues I’ve had with the series. But I won’t hold my breath for the next 15 years.
    Edit: To me, my biggest wishes for the series is to actually make multiplayer more than just 4 racers. It always feels so small racing in a track made for 30 racers. More modes is better. Bring back death race. Bring back Track editor. And give us a career mode for Deathborn’s sake, I always wanted that in F-Zero. Balance out the racers way better than in X or GX. Give us more music options besides just Mute City/Big Blue SNES. Maybe add in flying sections like they were going to in Zero Racers. Or go back to Super Cars. Just a taste of any of the concepts they can expand upon.
    Also characters and story certainly do need to be improved from GX and GP Legend.
    I can think of quite a lot of newer ideas and older ideas they can try again. But I don’t think Nintendo cares.

  • @donaldlarrimoreIII
    @donaldlarrimoreIII 3 роки тому +2

    I'm at a lack of words,
    Amazing

  • @CrimmiSkye
    @CrimmiSkye 3 роки тому +4

    Someone just remaster F-Zero X, that will get their attention

  • @AnAngelineer
    @AnAngelineer Рік тому +3

    I am surprised some indie studio didn't make a F-zero clone to exploit the void left behind.
    ...Well. technically, they did. But none of the clones went into the cartoony ridiculous characters and the voluntary hyper-corny story that we can see most in the later titles and the anime.
    So, in the end, those indie future racers ended up feeling more like WipeOut in terms of visual identity, even if some had a game-play that was actually relatively close to F-zero.
    ...I wonder if a smaller project/team will ever decide, one day, to emulate everything that made F-zero F-zero. Including the dumb shit of that legendary story mode. The world needs more of that pure, raw, "so bad it's good" cheese XD

  • @custom-r
    @custom-r 3 роки тому +6

    It really is frustrating at times to often think back on where F-Zero (and gaming to an extent) *should* be at this point in time. All F-Zero gets really is cameos, instead of a proper entry or some way for the current audience to access the games instead of porting the SNES game over and over again. A few antigrav games can kind of placate F-Zero fans, such as Aero GPX and Super Pilot. But neither have the universe F-Zero fans are familiar with (it's a Bug Fables/Paper Mario type of situation). Still there's worse fates.
    We've had to rely on emulation and rom scenes for years. And thank goodness for mods in other games that try to include F-Zero as well such as Trackmania United for example, and even that one Sonic Mania mod. That even stretches to games that allow character, vehicle, or track creation. They would be some way to at least keep F-Zero alive and featured through other current games. I suppose one takeaway is that at least there's folks still doing F-Zero related things. It could always be worse.

  • @rafaelcastro2591
    @rafaelcastro2591 Рік тому +1

    I think it would be that hard to make a new F Zero....
    1. A remade GX
    2. F Zero X type soundtrack
    3. 30 man free for all online Gran Prix
    4. Customizable machines AND pilots
    5. New story mode
    6. Weekly "premium" or "special" Gran Prix (maybe Nintendo could use currency has price for top 3, just like the lore say winning gives out money).

  • @fishxy2123
    @fishxy2123 3 роки тому +7

    I still play F-Zero GX pretty much whenever I get the chance. I love this series.

  • @skibot9974
    @skibot9974 3 роки тому +6

    "what could we add to F-zero" umm... online play?

    • @Diwasho
      @Diwasho 3 роки тому +2

      Online that retains the smooth 60FPS of the single player? Yeah, not happening. Not with Nintendo. The lags alone would be so bad it would be unplayable.

    • @skibot9974
      @skibot9974 3 роки тому

      @@Diwasho but doesn’t Mario kart for that fine? Sure it would be more work with F-Zero but not impossible

    • @Blueflag04
      @Blueflag04 3 роки тому

      And faster vehicles to make the game brutal

  • @TanteiRotana
    @TanteiRotana 3 роки тому +3

    Nice Avenue Q reference, the retrospective was ok too.

  • @Cableguy15
    @Cableguy15 3 роки тому +3

    But really though, Chapter 7 on Very Hard is one of the most infuriating things I've ever experienced in a video game. If you don't take out Black Shadow at the beginning of that race, you might as well restart. Even after that, Blood Falcon injected steroids into his ship and all the other characters are extremely aggressive on the narrow parts without ledges.
    As for where F-Zero could go, there is pretty much no way for them to improve the core game play. They could try the open world formula which all devs seem to gravitate toward lately, but as interesting as the F-Zero exploratory game sounds, I worry it could eat up precious resources and time, causing the game play to suffer. I think they should remaster GX and put it out with online 30 player races to gauge interest levels.

    • @JebZone
      @JebZone  3 роки тому

      That narrow path without railing gives me nightmares even now. Blood Falcon suddenly becomes a tank that moves faster than a speeding bullet in Chapter 7!

    • @skibot9974
      @skibot9974 3 роки тому

      They could add online multiplayer or bring back the track editor

  • @wompastompa3692
    @wompastompa3692 3 роки тому +3

    If Nintendo Online wasn't so impressively god awful, F-Zero multiplayer would be perfect. Imagine going at max velocity with a bunch of randos. It would be amazing, especially in the current lockdown era.
    Also, look up "F-Zero X GP Special Ending: Mr. EAD"

  • @Big-Image
    @Big-Image 3 роки тому +1

    I somewhat expect a new F-Zero game coming out on the rumored "Nintendo Switch Pro"

  • @TreyH.006
    @TreyH.006 3 роки тому +3

    I hope that Nintendo ports the F-Zero X and GX to show that they acknowledge F-Zero. Plus those games are hard to come by.

  • @cosmicsans67
    @cosmicsans67 3 роки тому +5

    imo it'd be a good move to just re-release the games, and im kinda surprised they havent ever re-released GX

    • @Cableguy15
      @Cableguy15 3 роки тому +1

      Yup, there is no way they are topping GX. A remaster with online races and maybe a few extras would be nice.

  • @BatPotatoes
    @BatPotatoes 3 роки тому +4

    Nintendo releases formulaic Pokémon games every other year with core gameplay that hasn't changed since the first game yet they won't make a new F Zero that only polishes core elements from previous games. Shit, I can't even find a copy of GX for under $80 and at this point I would take a zero effort switch port. If they put out a modern F Zero with current hardware & a soundtrack influenced by recent music, I'd lose it. It wouldn't be a bad idea to get Splatoon's music writers on board

  • @ATalkingSock
    @ATalkingSock 3 роки тому +6

    2:15 was that a freaking AVENUE Q REFERENCE?!?!

  • @MimiKz_
    @MimiKz_ 2 роки тому

    What a new F-zero should be is quite easy to answer.
    full online support for 30 player races, ranked matchmaking and a track editor. boom! game of the year
    anyone i talked with about f-zero said exactly this

  • @Diwasho
    @Diwasho 3 роки тому +7

    That damn Miyamoto, throwing Sega and Namco under the bus just to make Nintendo look good. In what way did F-Zero GX displease him?? It was literally the same as what they did with X but better. The game is old enough that he can get away with saying shit like this while simultaneously pushing this false narrative that only Nintendo can make good games based on their IPs.

    • @JebZone
      @JebZone  3 роки тому +9

      I get that he's talking about sales, but honestly, looking back on it, I kinda wish I talked about that little nugget more. I think it's kinda shitty of him to place the low performance on the developers when it wasn't like X was selling gangbusters either. In fact, I think the original game only sold as well as it did because it was literally one of the few things you could play on the SNES at launch. Was he really expecting F-Zero GX and F-Zero GP Legend to rank up there with Zelda or something? If anything, seeing how they went about resurrecting Star Fox, I think it's clear that the development team is NOT the problem or solution to F-Zero. The only benefit I see from in-house development over Nagoshi's team would be higher budget and timeframe (which they could spare for Sega if they wanted, but you know.)

    • @MagillanicaLouM
      @MagillanicaLouM 3 роки тому

      Yeah that's true, implications were kind of dickish. Most of his quotes about the series seem to be lol

  • @mattsparks3546
    @mattsparks3546 3 роки тому +4

    All of the cg from gx feels like Playing the movie foodfight

  • @bananabike279
    @bananabike279 3 роки тому +2

    Excellent video! I'm still hoping Nintendo will one day hand over the F-Zero license to the devs of the Fast Racing Neo games, those are basicly F-Zero names without the name attached to them (and I believe it even has the same announcer voice as the one from GX/AX)!

  • @SK-ww7ud
    @SK-ww7ud 3 роки тому +5

    GX is my personal favourite but I won't deny that the opening cord of X is the most iconic thing in the whole franchise

  • @masteryoshi87
    @masteryoshi87 3 роки тому +2

    I love F-Zero GX/AX so much. I can't believe Nintendo hasn't ported that GameCube game in HD yet. They could have done this over 8 years ago. Why didn't you talk about AX being on the F-Zero GX disc?

  • @cosmicspacething3474
    @cosmicspacething3474 3 роки тому +3

    “What do you want that we haven’t done before” Idk, new side modes, gimmicks, better graphics, controls, and customization. It’s not much, but it’s all Mario kart has been doing ever since the ds, and that series is doing better than smash bros. (Much to my confusion) funnily enough that series was only made because they didn’t have the tech to make a multiplayer FZero game.

  • @YouTubeIsCriminal
    @YouTubeIsCriminal 3 роки тому +4

    These OG hard games is why my generation thinks younger gen is soft.

  • @Squaggies
    @Squaggies 3 роки тому +3

    From someone who's never played an fzero game. It looks super fun to master. And I think I know how the game could evolve in general, it's an overused concept but I think it might fit for it
    Fzero 99, turn it into a battle royale game now that the tech is there and you can fill the lobbies for it

  • @ToaArcan
    @ToaArcan 3 роки тому +8

    _[Meaning of Truth Intensifies]_

  • @Lightning-ig2do
    @Lightning-ig2do 3 роки тому +1

    23:50
    Me whenever I lose a stock in Smash Bros.

  • @switchnx
    @switchnx 3 роки тому +1

    It’s been 6112 Days since Nintendo last released an F-Zero game anywhere in the world. _But who’s counting?_

    • @DiePoente
      @DiePoente 2 роки тому +1

      When the entire franchise of it sells less than 6 million copies and the best one just barely hitting 1 million copies, it's simply not easy to make one and expecting it to make huge profit returns.
      Nintendogs for NDS and 3DS have sold 28.60 million copies for comparison and it's just two games. Also Nintendo hasn't made a new one since the 3DS title.
      There are other titles that fit the niché of F-Zero: Wipeout, Fast RMX and Redout 1 and 2.

  • @magicjohnson3121
    @magicjohnson3121 3 роки тому +3

    Fast RMX is an amazingfuturistic speed racer that looks incredible and runs like a dream. It scratched the F-Zero itch for me. (Still want a new F-Zero though) . Also it’s made by just five guys.

    • @custom-r
      @custom-r 3 роки тому

      You may defineitly want to check out Aero GPX and Super Pilot next. They pretty much advance what F-Zero set forth.

  • @dissonanceparadiddle
    @dissonanceparadiddle 3 роки тому +1

    At this point a map editor and a new coat of paint would be at least something. Fast neo racing And it's prequel and sequel. Are proof That a game like a zero still has a lot of appeal and can at the very least look better.

  • @StormRiderEvo
    @StormRiderEvo 3 роки тому +5

    50:26
    That blooper scene with Black Shadow dancing to shake off a fall will never NOT be funny to me lol

  • @chornie90
    @chornie90 3 роки тому +1

    As many have point out you dont need to reinvent the wheel. Just give us a new FZero that takes advantage of current hardware, and then... add online multiplayer to it. A grand prix vs 29 other dudes from around the world, or some sort of battle royale where you just have to survive in a deadly course vs 99 other players, idk, for me that would be incredible addictive and fun... plus you could sell a bunch of cosmetics (or even machine parts) to make it more profitable

  • @porky1118
    @porky1118 3 роки тому +2

    I just want F-Zero GX with better graphics, online features and more memory to save the own cars.

  • @ATalkingSock
    @ATalkingSock 3 роки тому +3

    Great video. I get the feeling I'll be re-listening to it often.
    I love in-depth essay-reviews and I love love LOVE F-zero.
    Thank you

  • @sickfitz4256
    @sickfitz4256 3 роки тому +1

    39:34
    This is why you don’t do drugs

  • @TX_LoveGame
    @TX_LoveGame 3 роки тому +2

    That whole idea that they won't make a new one because the idea is hard to innovate on, ls baloney. Not only is it hard for the newer gen to get into F-Zero because the games are so rare now (especially GX), they act like it goes against some sort of code to essentially make the same game with an HD makeover and mild tweaks... except that's exactly what they've done with two of their longest running side series. NSMB has been stale and uninspired since Wii, yet they keep cranking them out. Mario Party is an even worse offender, it's been the definition of samey since 3. You could argue that those are spinoffs but the point still kinda stands. Plus FZero with online would be dope and you know it.

  • @chrisfarleyshrek4347
    @chrisfarleyshrek4347 3 роки тому

    Does anybody watched the Toy Story Black Friday Reel? Woody is Nintendo and Buzz is F-Zero and the other toys are Nintendo's other series.

  • @xaviergonzalez44
    @xaviergonzalez44 2 роки тому

    I would really like it if Nintendo said, we have no clue what to do with F-zero, and think that it’s explored what it can. Like you said, there’s not much that would really push the series beyond, unlike like other Nintendo IP’s. Hearing the words from Nintendo would, I think, bring closure to the series.