Growing up a Christian I went to many churches and heard many versions of God, Jesus, the trinity, and was just left flat out clueless. Alhumdulilah for guidance and Islam.
i have realized something by seeing this kinds of debates. Christians can never answer a question properly. Hashim: Is the Flesh part of God? Christians: The spirit never dies.
I have learned so many points plus a major one, which was a Question with me for Quite some time, here I got it answered. Thanks for sharing it with us, Salute.
Just how important specifics can be and how dangerous generalising is. In both you need reasonable understanding and logic and willingness to look further. Don’t stop at simplicity until you have gone far. You will not see how simple it is, unless you have gone far. Ask the right question and keep asking the right question, u get the right answer. Brilliant constructive deliberation, brother Hashim you have my respect.
They try so hard to prove the trinity theory but it still doesn't make any sense. I called it a theory because Jesus himself never spoke about the three or four of them combined together. The flesh, holy ghost, the father and the words. The Dawah Team made a tremendous effort in speakers corner to drive the Christian to the right path. May Allah guide us.
Try to understand this simple thing.. Dying is not a payment of any Sin. Even if you die or kill yourself your sins remain and still accountable in the day of judgement. Death is only a separation of body and soul.
@@mubarakisonline. I believe Solomon was a prophet who wrote in Ecclesiastes 3; 19 "For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity." If you believe man has a soul, then so do animals which is going to make paradise pretty crowded. Of course, Solomon goes on to write in Ecclesiastes 9; 5 "For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten." Clearly, Solomon didn't believe in life after death. Isn't Isaiah another prophet? What did he think? It is written in Isaiah 26; 14 "They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish." Isaiah didn't seem to think there was life after death. What was Ezekiel 's take on it? See what he wrote in Ezekiel 18; 4 "Look! All the souls-to me they belong. As the soul of the father so likewise the soul of the son-to me they belong. The soul that is sinning-it itself will die." How about Psalms? In praise of David, the Psalmist wrote in Psalm 146; 3, 4 "3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. 4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish." Sounds pretty final to me. There are other examples to use but it's pretty clear, prophets in the Hebrew Bible did not believe they had a soul that continued in existence. Does that present a problem for Islam?
@@mubarakisonline. Come on, surely you know the prophets so well you could find one who believed in life after death. Or are you one of those donkeys that regurgitate whatever they hear from some half-assed Imam?
@@blademaiden4498 I think you are a donkey who don't understand a simple thing.. A Man cannot be a Prophet if he doesn't believe in God, Heaven, Hell, Destiny, Soul/Spirit/, Life, Death and Afterlife or Resurrection. I didn't reply you because your points are not worthy to discuss on. Not beneficial for anyone, waste of time. Anyhow here is reply Ecclesiastes 3:19 and 9:5 KJV It doesn't says that there is no life after. But it confess that he doesn't know what happens to the human soul after death. But the answer is there in Ecclesiastes 12:7 KJV Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. Isaiah 26:19 NIV But your dead will live, Lord; their bodies will rise- let those who dwell in the dust wake up and shout for joy- your dew is like the dew of the morning; the earth will give birth to her dead Psalms 71:20 NIV Though you have made me see troubles, many and bitter, you will restore my life again; from the depths of the earth you will again bring me up. EZEKIEL 18:20-21 20. The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. 21. But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. Now if you have other good topic to discuss then pls come up. PLS DON'T TRY TO WASTE MINE AND YOUR TIME.
Iohn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God; John 1:14 And the Word became flesh According to Christians The Flesh died. Because the flesh was God therefore god died, and because god had the word, the word did not exist with gods death, and because the word was in the beginning and now there is no word, there is no beginning, LOL,LOL,LOL.
This egotistical,know-it-all christian guy is making things up as he goes..maybe this is the first time a Muslim stands up to him and put his core beliefs in it's place.. Its a huge blow for him!Masya Allah.. May Allah bless u Bro Hashim and all Muslims worldwide.
This gentleman here is calling us ignorant since we're watching this video. We sir don't insult this is not who we are. Any maybe you should get some education because you can't even define death. And you're unable to explain your core doctrine. May Allah bless and reward brother Hashim and all the brothers in the Park. Ramadan Karim to all Muslims around the world.
I look forward to the day that Islamic countries will practice this level of human rights where a Christian can openly debate Muslims on the open squares of Islamabad, Istanbul...etc. What you are demonstrating is the liberty and rights Christianity affords a country and its peoples. Thx
6.37min... my answer to him... what happen to my soul..where will the soul go... it will go to Alllah>> if he ask what happen to the flesh... the flesh will be rise again.... just like a plant.... Allah will rise all the human being in the day of judgement..and the soul will come back to their own flesh.. and they all will be judge in human form.... the christian brother here are so confused to answer the different between the death of jesus pbh and the other human because there are no different... jesus pbh are human... just like adam pbh that are made by clay... the combination of soul and flesh makes this phisical we have.. the question i would like our christian brother here to answer is.. do jesus have a soul? do a God have a soul? are the soul of God is the holy spirit? the more they trying to explain...the more they become confused by their own answer... the light is just in front of them..but they still ignorance to accept... for me... if u ask a Muslims..all the Muslims...you can get a standard answer... but if u ask a Christians..all the Christian..u will get a lot of different answers...same as the number the Christians u ask... (if u ask 10 Christian..u will have 10 different interpretation or 10 different answer...) and still they believe the man is a God?
If word was spirit then which one is spirit? Are we having two spirits here ? God is not jesus and jesus is not spirit and yet spirit is God and God is jesus ??? Are you kidding me ?
Ramadan Kareem all Muslims. This is the month of Quran lets try to spread the miracle of the quran its not only for muslims rather it is for all mankind. For the next few weeks you guys visit the park. Juat focis on sharing the beauty od the word of Allah. Remember the satans are chained and people hearts are more closer to hear the words from their creator.
Lol I can imagine this guy at an exam, he’ll come across a question he doesn’t know the answer to because he’s ignorant and he writes “oh fam this is a strong man question”.
One thing I don't understand every Christian says that flesh died on the cross not spirit of Jesus but word became flesh not spirit which died on the cross so God died and I think brother Hashim has never noticed that.
when they don't have an answer, classic trinitarian cards below: 1.Changes the topic to Quran, 2.Calls others a Strawman 3."Jesus Loves you" and run away from the topic and place.
It’s like When you ask a Trinitarian what Forward means? They Will Waffle Waffle Waffle and Waffle some more for another Ten minutes and then say it means *BACKWARDS!!* 🤦🏽
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The Word became flesh. The flesh died on the cross. Resurrected or not, when the flesh died, it was NOT immortal. Whilst God should be immortal. Something really wrong with the logic of the book. .
So.. it's no longer father son and holy spirit.. it's the father "word" and the holy spirit..? Where does anybody say the father "word" and holy spirit?
Hi Hashim and Everyone, im the person in the video. My 1st time at speakers corner and going up against Hashim was fun. Think Hashim needs to learn about predestination and free will. 😉 Also needs to understand the Christian Trinity. Childish and simple questions. Disappointed from an experienced debater. Untill next time. 😁
Surah 4:56 Those who reject our Signs, We shall soon cast into the Fire: as often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the penalty: for Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise
He simply says he died but didn’t die! All his salvation is dependent on the death of the son, yet he tries to say no he didn’t really die! Get to the point which is not any point
y br hashim even bother to debate with this guy? what a great patience he has, talk to him like talking to a kid, doesnt even know wht he's talking abt, wht the?.. he's totally lost,
I don’t why but somehow I don’t respect the person who keeps clapping while talking. It clearly shows that his not confident in what he’s saying, in-fact this liar is annoying
A-Which of these 3 died for you? B-Potato is so expensive.. A-Please just answer to my question B-Thats sementics. I already answered your question 🤷♂️
The moment the deceptive christian doesn’t allow the person to talk you should know he’s a liar and he knows it and the deceptive christian knows if he allows the Muslim to continue talking his deceptive christian ways will be exposed.
Growing up a Christian I went to many churches and heard many versions of God, Jesus, the trinity, and was just left flat out clueless. Alhumdulilah for guidance and Islam.
This is painful to watch. Mashallaah bro hashim took this guy to the deep end.
I AM telling you this Trinity doctrin doesn’t make any SENSE!!!
Yep, trinity make quantum physic look like more easier to understand...
@F.A F.A even crhistians childrens dont believe that jesus is god ..!
Yes trinity is novel never ending story.
Trinity is nonsensical and mockery.
They fpn,y realize they have been nrsin washed by the church as of it was from the boble
This Christian is really digging a hole for himself, then he jumps right in.
Lol
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Poor Christian he is really lost
Am addicted to speakers coners dawah teams videos... May Allah reward them greatly. Bro Hashim got him struggling 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
IKR!! me too
Thanks! I'm was waiting for this one question! Which one of the Trinity died for you? Knock out!
The Christian knows he got trapped and now he's looking for a way out by beating around the bush.
i have realized something by seeing this kinds of debates. Christians can never answer a question properly.
Hashim: Is the Flesh part of God?
Christians: The spirit never dies.
Formula from 1 + 1 +1 = 1
That why answer always fail
Hashim is far too deep for these Christians. All they can do is repeat their confusing belief which does not mate even basic sense.
Nothing is more insane than Islam:
Which one that we worship the one true God and not worshipping the creation
They can’t answer these logical questions because a logical answer would debunk the entire trinity
@@kingkamaro9442
Insanity or christianity
@@kingkamaro9442
Says the christ
One of the best discussion in the park... masha allah bro. Hashim.. allah swt gave you good knowledge..
You can see him struggling :)
The best part was "Ooops, so none of the trinity died for your sins"
The flesh died but the flesh is immortal... Dear o Dear its confused.Com time!!
Brother hashim got him tongue tied lol
I have learned so many points plus a major one, which was a Question with me for Quite some time, here I got it answered.
Thanks for sharing it with us, Salute.
He wishes there is a bell to save him.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I grew happy to this channel.
Trinity slayer
13:16 That guy's starts confusing here.
you can see the very sec he realized he had nothing to stand on @9:35 lol
He says word was spirit. If we speak or ask the word can this word speak?! 😂
This guy evades better than Floyd Mayweather. He cannot answer a direct question for some reason
Just how important specifics can be and how dangerous generalising is. In both you need reasonable understanding and logic and willingness to look further. Don’t stop at simplicity until you have gone far. You will not see how simple it is, unless you have gone far. Ask the right question and keep asking the right question, u get the right answer. Brilliant constructive deliberation, brother Hashim you have my respect.
Brother Hashim is the master of trinity. He can destroy any Christianity with his trinity logic
They try so hard to prove the trinity theory but it still doesn't make any sense. I called it a theory because Jesus himself never spoke about the three or four of them combined together. The flesh, holy ghost, the father and the words. The Dawah Team made a tremendous effort in speakers corner to drive the Christian to the right path. May Allah guide us.
Who died finally? 😄😄😄. amazing logic...someone died for my sins. Lol. Flesh died but flesh is not part of trinity. 😄😄
Hehe..
Once the spirit out from the body its means dead, you don't have any other choice means God is dead.
Try to understand this simple thing..
Dying is not a payment of any Sin. Even if you die or kill yourself your sins remain and still accountable in the day of judgement.
Death is only a separation of body and soul.
How do you know that you have a soul? What if the Biblical prophets are correct, that there is no life after death?
@@blademaiden4498
Name me any Biblical Prophet who said.. there is no life after death?
@@mubarakisonline. I believe Solomon was a prophet who wrote in Ecclesiastes 3; 19 "For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity." If you believe man has a soul, then so do animals which is going to make paradise pretty crowded. Of course, Solomon goes on to write in Ecclesiastes 9; 5 "For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten." Clearly, Solomon didn't believe in life after death.
Isn't Isaiah another prophet? What did he think? It is written in Isaiah 26; 14 "They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish." Isaiah didn't seem to think there was life after death.
What was Ezekiel 's take on it? See what he wrote in Ezekiel 18; 4 "Look! All the souls-to me they belong. As the soul of the father so likewise the soul of the son-to me they belong. The soul that is sinning-it itself will die."
How about Psalms? In praise of David, the Psalmist wrote in Psalm 146; 3, 4 "3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. 4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish." Sounds pretty final to me.
There are other examples to use but it's pretty clear, prophets in the Hebrew Bible did not believe they had a soul that continued in existence. Does that present a problem for Islam?
@@mubarakisonline. Come on, surely you know the prophets so well you could find one who believed in life after death. Or are you one of those donkeys that regurgitate whatever they hear from some half-assed Imam?
@@blademaiden4498
I think you are a donkey who don't understand a simple thing..
A Man cannot be a Prophet if he doesn't believe in God, Heaven, Hell, Destiny, Soul/Spirit/, Life, Death and Afterlife or Resurrection.
I didn't reply you because your points are not worthy to discuss on. Not beneficial for anyone, waste of time.
Anyhow here is reply
Ecclesiastes 3:19 and 9:5 KJV
It doesn't says that there is no life after. But it confess that he doesn't know what happens to the human soul after death.
But the answer is there in
Ecclesiastes 12:7 KJV
Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
Isaiah 26:19 NIV
But your dead will live, Lord;
their bodies will rise-
let those who dwell in the dust
wake up and shout for joy-
your dew is like the dew of the morning;
the earth will give birth to her dead
Psalms 71:20 NIV
Though you have made me see troubles, many and bitter, you will restore my life again; from the depths of the earth you will again bring me up.
EZEKIEL 18:20-21
20. The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
21. But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
Now if you have other good topic to discuss then pls come up. PLS DON'T TRY TO WASTE MINE AND YOUR TIME.
Br Hamza Tzortzis behind listening :)
1+1+1=1 make them crazy to answer.
1x1x1x1x1x1x1x.......... =1 if this is the case why stop at 3?
They need 3 people to answer.
It’s changed to fournity 🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Fournity! That's a very new one!
This Hashim huy really makes me laugh when i see him debate someone.
13:11 😂😂 when you messed up
13:24 🤣 the way he said oops!
Iohn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God;
John 1:14 And the Word became flesh
According to Christians The Flesh died. Because the flesh was God therefore god died, and because god had the word, the word did not exist with gods death, and because the word was in the beginning and now there is no word, there is no beginning, LOL,LOL,LOL.
No beginning no ending.
This egotistical,know-it-all christian guy is making things up as he goes..maybe this is the first time a Muslim stands up to him and put his core beliefs in it's place.. Its a huge blow for him!Masya Allah.. May Allah bless u Bro Hashim and all Muslims worldwide.
Look what john 1:1 did to christians...
😄
Opsssss 🤣🤣🤣
This gentleman here is calling us ignorant since we're watching this video.
We sir don't insult this is not who we are. Any maybe you should get some education because you can't even define death. And you're unable to explain your core doctrine.
May Allah bless and reward brother Hashim and all the brothers in the Park. Ramadan Karim to all Muslims around the world.
So now the Trinity is the Word, the Father and the Spirit?
They remove son. Son missing. We need to find him now.
I look forward to the day that Islamic countries will practice this level of human rights where a Christian can openly debate Muslims on the open squares of Islamabad, Istanbul...etc.
What you are demonstrating is the liberty and rights Christianity affords a country and its peoples. Thx
This country is not a Christian country but a secular
Is that Hamza in that back?
Don't canfuse me christmas man 😃😃😃
1 + 1 + 1 = 1
Confius forever
This christian keeps saying ''In the beginning", this is a clear evidence that Jesus is not a god because he has a beginning like all humans. Done!
Yes. If have beginning. Then have ending. End story.
Preach mode activated
2.34 flesh is not a person. HASHIM GO BACCCKKKKK BROTHER
6.37min...
my answer to him... what happen to my soul..where will the soul go... it will go to Alllah>>
if he ask what happen to the flesh...
the flesh will be rise again.... just like a plant....
Allah will rise all the human being in the day of judgement..and the soul will come back to their own flesh..
and they all will be judge in human form....
the christian brother here are so confused to answer the different between the death of jesus pbh and the other human because there are no different... jesus pbh are human... just like adam pbh that are made by clay... the combination of soul and flesh makes this phisical we have..
the question i would like our christian brother here to answer is.. do jesus have a soul? do a God have a soul?
are the soul of God is the holy spirit?
the more they trying to explain...the more they become confused by their own answer...
the light is just in front of them..but they still ignorance to accept...
for me...
if u ask a Muslims..all the Muslims...you can get a standard answer...
but if u ask a Christians..all the Christian..u will get a lot of different answers...same as the number the Christians u ask...
(if u ask 10 Christian..u will have 10 different interpretation or 10 different answer...)
and still they believe the man is a God?
In the beginning there was a word and it was with God...... That makes it four God's because God is 3 in 1 equal to 4.
If word was spirit then which one is spirit? Are we having two spirits here ? God is not jesus and jesus is not spirit and yet spirit is God and God is jesus ??? Are you kidding me ?
Boy, oh boy! How can an adult get fooled that much??!! Trinitarian mumbo jumbo
Word from tin Sprite. Just drink it.
If they insist on separation of the flesh and spirit contained within.. they've introduced a 4th element into the trinity
They forget 4th element formula :
Father
Son
Spirit
+ Soul
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if Jesus in trinity creates himself as a human than JESUS should have two spirits one humanly and gody which in trinity should be 4.
Ramadan Kareem all Muslims. This is the month of Quran lets try to spread the miracle of the quran its not only for muslims rather it is for all mankind. For the next few weeks you guys visit the park. Juat focis on sharing the beauty od the word of Allah. Remember the satans are chained and people hearts are more closer to hear the words from their creator.
Good strategy from br hasyim...
Lol I can imagine this guy at an exam, he’ll come across a question he doesn’t know the answer to because he’s ignorant and he writes “oh fam this is a strong man question”.
The trap which Hashim did 👏🏼👏🏼😂😅
How sad that man.. He try to turn and turn.. And lastly he found even he didnt understand..
hashim should ask him can the word dies 😂😂😂
When will this Christian take note of he is been told
The confused Christians should goes to Sesame Street not speaker corner😂
One thing I don't understand every Christian says that flesh died on the cross not spirit of Jesus but word became flesh not spirit which died on the cross so God died and I think brother Hashim has never noticed that.
when they don't have an answer, classic trinitarian cards below:
1.Changes the topic to Quran,
2.Calls others a Strawman
3."Jesus Loves you" and run away from the topic and place.
This trinitarian probably has learned Hashim tactic and method. He is now applying it in this debate. 😭😭
3:28 hashim made the guys head spin
It’s like When you ask a Trinitarian what Forward means? They Will Waffle Waffle Waffle and Waffle some more for another Ten minutes and then say it means *BACKWARDS!!* 🤦🏽
did I see brother Hamza behind brother hashim , in the beginning of the video ?
How can I get a question wrong
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The Word became flesh. The flesh died on the cross.
Resurrected or not, when the flesh died, it was NOT immortal. Whilst God should be immortal.
Something really wrong with the logic of the book.
.
So.. it's no longer father son and holy spirit.. it's the father "word" and the holy spirit..? Where does anybody say the father "word" and holy spirit?
when u cnt answer a simple question.. U just tell him thats not my arguement...
If he want to substantiates his opinion , it must be based on his scriptures.
People belive anything they want. I
Is that Hamza Tzortis in blue ?
Why is Christianity so complicated?
Hi Hashim and Everyone, im the person in the video. My 1st time at speakers corner and going up against Hashim was fun. Think Hashim needs to learn about predestination and free will. 😉 Also needs to understand the Christian Trinity. Childish and simple questions. Disappointed from an experienced debater. Untill next time. 😁
checkmate.
Surah 4:56
Those who reject our Signs, We shall soon cast into the Fire: as often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the penalty: for Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise
1 question need 2 video to answer. Complicated answer.
He simply says he died but didn’t die!
All his salvation is dependent on the death of the son, yet he tries to say no he didn’t really die!
Get to the point which is not any point
So sad to see what Christianity has done to my black ppl blind deaf and dumb smh
y br hashim even bother to debate with this guy? what a great patience he has, talk to him like talking to a kid, doesnt even know wht he's talking abt, wht the?.. he's totally lost,
when the guy is cornered, he starts waffling. he doesn't know what he is saying. then began silly talking.
No one understands the Trinity.
The word /speech of god is the son?😱
😄
I don’t why but somehow I don’t respect the person who keeps clapping while talking. It clearly shows that his not confident in what he’s saying, in-fact this liar is annoying
That Christian ignorant calls the audience ignorant in order to hide his ignorance of faith.....
Hamza Tzortzis in the background
Waffling at it's finest!
I SAW THERE IS HAMZA TRIZT BEHIND HASHIM........
Is it me or they look silly when they start clapping 🤣🤣🤣
i dont think the person who s killed on the cross was jesus........
tzortzis go on engage brother :D
Christians have three GODS!!!! What a mess!!!! Which of these GODS will you attain salvation from?
A-Which of these 3 died for you?
B-Potato is so expensive..
A-Please just answer to my question
B-Thats sementics. I already answered your question
🤷♂️
The moment the deceptive christian doesn’t allow the person to talk you should know he’s a liar and he knows it and the deceptive christian knows if he allows the Muslim to continue talking his deceptive christian ways will be exposed.
Hashim a legend
No Christians can explain the trinity or eventhe religion