"We sow the seed, nature grows the seed, we eat the seed." -Neil to Rick in The Young Ones Thought that was what you were referencing, until I remembered the callers name lol
And the cancer, malfunctions of all kinds in babies and fetuses, parasites, natural disasters of all kinds. If “look at the trees” is an argument, then “look at the flesh eating bacteria’s effects” should also be. Both are natural and thus, supposedly, designed by god.
God is when there is no division between you and what you are observing. "I Am That" Nisargadatta "You are the world and the world is you." J. Krishnamurti "Consciousness alone is." Papaji
@@BobbyFristonhow is the world me? What does that even mean? Also is god an event or a time period, how else am I supposed to interpret “God is when…”?
I open the window and look out at the tree, and think how wonderful the tree is. In the tree is a blackbird singing, which fills my heart with song and joy. Who needs a fucking purpose for it all. 🤷♂🤷♂
You're overlooking the fact that it explains nothing at all. When you follow the chain of explanations back to the source, you get a non-explanation in the form of a panacea. Why is there something rather than nothing? *GOD* How did god do it? *MAGIC* What's magic? *A transcendent power that permeates the universe, subject to god's will* What does transcendent power mean? *timeless; spaceless; of another realm* Can you give me a meaningful example? *GOD....* ...magic isn't an explanation for anything, anymore than omnipotence, omniscience or "eternality". Wherever the supernatural and the natural interact, there is something that science can investigate, and *crucially* that people can articulate meaningfully. Magick'd, AbraKadabra'd, "breathing life into adam" or whatever fuzzy, nebulous anachronisms are presented in the bible fail to explain anything. I can explain gravity without appealing to magic; I can do it with familiar terms and meanings. Spooky language invented to confuse and control primitive people doesn't impress me. *I defy you to present an example of the bible providing an meaningful explanation for anything, that doesn't immediately collapse under the weight of its authority's synthetic, second rate nature.* Live well
Specifically the manzanilla, the tree with sap so toxic you will get burned standing under it in the rain. Everything about it can kill humans- but iguanas seem to enjoy it.
Rick never made it out of the factory, never mind into the drawer. Quality control flushed him down the toilet and he somehow survived the sewage treatment pond.
I never brag about this nor is there a reason for it, just a curiosity... at 5 years old I knew for a fact religions and religious teachings cannot possibly be true
I never brag about this nor is there a reason for it, just a curiosity... at 5 years old I knew for a fact religions and religious teachings cannot possibly be true
Gonna start replying to the "Look at the trees!" bit with "Look at the baby cancer!" It's the Ray Comfort School of Trying My Best to Be the Dumbest Motherfucker Breathing.
Exactly. Since magic can explain EVERYTHING it ends up being useless. It has no constraints and thus no real explanatory scope and no pragmatic usefulness.
@@MrMattSaxThis reminds me of an episode of "My Little Pony" when Twilight Sparkle was trying to prove that fortune telling wasn't real. Yeah, in this world where _magic_ exists, _fortune telling_ specifically isn't real. When you add magic, there are no rules, so there is no point to anything.
One thing that got me about creation when I was a kid, was that I was told God created everything including me and all I ever saw was people creating people and animals creating other animals and trees creating fruit..
You can 100% guarantee that if this guy had been born in Saudi Arabia or Pakistan he would be making the same arguments for Allah and Mohammed and would deny christianity.
Maybe it would have been a good idea to separate out the concept of "purpose" (like a designer's intent) from "utility" (something that is useful). From there if you could get him to agree that acknowledging utility doesn't inherently suggest purpose, it might have at least given him something to mull over insofar as how fallible his argument was. I mean, I don't think there was any way to get this guy quite on the same page, but if he would even be willing to clear that first hurdle, then that could well set the groundwork for more meaningful discourse.
This exactly. What is the purpose of a rock? God must love them, 'cos they're everywhere. To what end can we use a rock? paperweight, hammer, anvil, throw it as a weapon, throw it to know fruit out of a tree, etc.
I've watched hundreds of these videos. Every single Christian has said nothing but absurd nonsense. It's horrifying to me that it's still a thing in this world.
Hey Rick, how about you try a nice meal of Death Cap and Destroying Angel mushrooms lightly sprinkled with some Strychnine tree fruit, Foxglove, Hemlock and Mistletoe berries. 12 or so hours later please explain the purpose of these plants. Oh, you'll be a tad busy being dead but I can't see that making your argumentation skills any worse.
You guys aren't even having the same conversation... Rick's argument is so incredibly infantile that it's not at all fair to keep going, he's not capable of understanding.
Trees bear fruit. Therefore, they have purpose. Yes, they do. The purpose is to grow seeds to reproduce. Bearing fruit that we have adapted to take in those fruits as nutrients is secondary. Also, if we choose not to eat apples will not make us die, as the caller alleged.
"Also, if we choose not to eat apples will not make us die, as the caller alleged." Unless that apple is offered from a talking snake - then eating that apple will doom all mankind. Don't ever eat from God's secret stash of apples.
I prefer talking about "functions" instead of "purposes" when arguing with theists. At least for me when you dig down into the definitions, "purpose" implies some conscious agent involved. A rock can roll down a hill, that's how it "functions", but rolling down isn't its "purpose". If some entity intended for it to roll, then it has "purpose".
The oldest homo sapien bone currently found , (Jebel Irhoud in Morocco) is 315,000 year old .... but I agree with your point. Apologies for the pedantry
the first sentence shows his whole argument is from personal incredulity. he does not understand logic or reason. does he realize that trees are made up of chemicals and elements
tbh, Amanuel is sad indoctrinated abuse victim who keep fighting a battle he knows is lost, but at least he gets the words of english language that are said to him... this guy's like actually dumb, like, clinically.
@@Sological "It was all made for us!" Then why is 99% of the universe completely uninhabitable lmfao. Was god making an expansion pack and got lazy halfway through and just released it unfinished? lmao
That's obviously the devil's doing. I mean that's what they created that myth for. Whatever we can't attribute to god and things go wrong.. it's the bad guy ofcourse..😂
When he said our "window" is for redemption... and he admitted we were just put here and had never asked to be here... I would ask redemption from what? Being born? What kind of cruel deity would treat his creation like that?
In the beginning there was nothing but space. So where did space come from? God made it. Where did God come from? God always existed. How do you know that? I made it up.
Purpose comes from us and always has. We always put priority on things, feelings, thoughts etc. And it’s the same with any god. We made them up so we give them purpose and meaning. How else would we say they’re good, bad, loving or anything as that?
@@jeffc2630 I am low vision and need to use voice to text and sometimes it’s hard for me to see two letters that are the same when they’re together. But thanks for the correction.
I dont know how you can remain so calm when talking to someone with barely a basic understanding of living ? He thinks trees bare fruit for us ? So he's been to Sunday school and listened for five minutes, and calls an atheist show believing he's right ?
It's weird that adults believe and repeat it. It's the kind of thoughts i had and worked through as a small child. Concluding that that only works if I consider myself central to everything, which im not so the argument falls apart.
I agree with both of you. The trees thing is an interesting thought experiment, but it’s hardly enough to build a worldview around. “Wow let me go to church every Sunday and construct my entire value system around god….because bro the trees”
Can't be easy. Kinda thought it was funny he was handed a way to strengthen his delusions and he saw it as "learning something an atheist recommended, therefore it's bad," slight against him. Honestly, probably pretty great. The ignorant truly do live in bliss. They even get to make up their own bad guys when they feel like playing, "I'm being persecuted," like children playing Cops and Robbers.
Magic is imagined to be able to do anything, so of course it can be used as an explanation for anything. The Christian god is just giving magic a personality.
That's my issue. Anthropology. We have historical records and archeological evidence of all these cultures that predated the accounts of the Bible. Yet, the Bible says that God created humans. That God has been worshipped for around 4,000 years. Where was God for the preceding 196,000 years that we know modern humans existed? Why did he let all those people invent other gods, or come up with their own creation myths? Why, when he decided to show his face, did he do so in the Middle East alone, and not the subcontinent, Europe, Australia, Africa, the Americas or the Far East as well? I need a sensible answer to all that before I even get to the "evidence for God" bit.
Yo, yo Rick, before humans came into the picture, did trees produce fruit? If you eat some fruit that has no nutritional value, with seeds you cannot digest and so just poop them out later, who's/what's purpose is really being served, and by whom or what? You're going to need to buckle down if you expect to get all your obvious homework done.
Most edible vegetables and fruit today has been genetically manipulated to look good and be edible from the original CREATED things. Why didn't god create edible cucumbers? We changed them to be edible.
Study Dr. Tom Cowan. Certain supposed Biological entities have not been isolated and shown to cause the harm that they are alleged to cause. I can't be more explicit here. You need to check another plat form.
There are plenty of toxic trees, the Oleander is regularly grown as an ornamental and will kill you in 30 minutes if ingested. So.....is that it's purpose and what does it say about Rick's purpose?
People discuss things with their friends in a circle jerk and get convinced they have a great point and then call in to the show and get slammed and can’t handle it.
Easy to answer that one - god made a perfect world , man ( Eve in fact ) brought sin into the world . In the garden of Eden ( where is that ?) every thing was perfect , no death .
No dude, a tree does not grow fruit to feed you. It grows fruit to reproduce e and make more trees. You just happen to eat those fruit as well, but the tree would be just fine without you and still make fruit. Therefore a tree's purpose is to make more trees.
Intelligent creation design proponentists don’t stop with “mebbe sumthing made it.” They jump to “that’s why you need redemption.” That presupposes that we are the property, owned human servants, of that specific church. That’s where metaphysics philosophy changes into crimes against humanity.
Rick, there is no reason we're here. We just are. Just because you don't want to know or can't understand the complexity of life doesn't mean you get to sweep 4 billion years of evolution off the table because it's too complicated for you.
Rick is conflating functional purpose (why/how things work) with "the purpose of existence", and is using functional purpose to indicate design, which is fallacious. Nothing has inherent purpose outside of its function, and human beings can give themselves purpose because of our consciousness
Dear Rick : We know how a tree form and grow from what's actually equivalent to an egg and sperm ( called differently but there's similarities there) and all the way to a tree given the right nourishment, soil, water and sun etc. At what specific stage does God come in?. Ans what does god do?
What actually explains every problem is the simple observation that nobody has ever demonstrated that any variety of a god thing ever existed because they don’t and never did.
So why do theists want others to believe? It goes like this: “Believe in my God, listen to what I say, do what I tell you to do, never question me, love who I tell you to love and hate who I tell you to hate. Give me your money." At the end of the day religion is all about money and power.
A tree’s purpose is to give you fruit? Smells of the idea that everything is here for us. They produce fruit in order to spread their seed because they have evolved to survive and then thrive around animals that evolved around them. The evolution of ecosystems are what is profound not some eye in the sky.
"If things can do stuff, there must be a dude who put the things there do to the stuff, specifically for me."
- fucking genius
This all went so far above his head, he didn't even notice it! 😂😂😂
Greetings from The Netherlands!
I was just there. Pretty good looking country. Amsterdam and Rotterdam.
Exactly like his God!
We have many in this country like Rick.
The trees aren't making fruit for you. They are making it to spread seeds.
Ah, but the purpose of spreading seeds is to grow more trees so that Rick has more fruit to eat! /s
"We sow the seed, nature grows the seed, we eat the seed."
-Neil to Rick in The Young Ones
Thought that was what you were referencing, until I remembered the callers name lol
Until he eats the many various poisonous fruits...
Except avocados. That tree is our b*tch.
Exactly
"Have you seen the trees?" Yes, and flowers, baby smiles, baby animals, colours, love, sunshine... I have seen all of it, no god anywhere..
And the cancer, malfunctions of all kinds in babies and fetuses, parasites, natural disasters of all kinds.
If “look at the trees” is an argument, then “look at the flesh eating bacteria’s effects” should also be. Both are natural and thus, supposedly, designed by god.
@@NocturnaluxExactly 💯💯
God is when there is no division between you and what you are observing.
"I Am That" Nisargadatta
"You are the world and the world is you." J. Krishnamurti
"Consciousness alone is." Papaji
@@BobbyFristonI am me, the world is the world and I'm part of it.
@@BobbyFristonhow is the world me? What does that even mean? Also is god an event or a time period, how else am I supposed to interpret “God is when…”?
As an arborist, I'd just like to add that we have seen the trees.
When the god-goggles are on so tight that the caller can't shift his thinking out of first gear.
With extra thick lenses.
I open the window and look out at the tree, and think how wonderful the tree is.
In the tree is a blackbird singing, which fills my heart with song and joy.
Who needs a fucking purpose for it all. 🤷♂🤷♂
Christianity explains everything....
Either poorly or mundanely
You're overlooking the fact that it explains nothing at all. When you follow the chain of explanations back to the source, you get a non-explanation in the form of a panacea.
Why is there something rather than nothing? *GOD*
How did god do it? *MAGIC*
What's magic? *A transcendent power that permeates the universe, subject to god's will*
What does transcendent power mean? *timeless; spaceless; of another realm*
Can you give me a meaningful example? *GOD....*
...magic isn't an explanation for anything, anymore than omnipotence, omniscience or "eternality". Wherever the supernatural and the natural interact, there is something that science can investigate, and *crucially* that people can articulate meaningfully. Magick'd, AbraKadabra'd, "breathing life into adam" or whatever fuzzy, nebulous anachronisms are presented in the bible fail to explain anything. I can explain gravity without appealing to magic; I can do it with familiar terms and meanings. Spooky language invented to confuse and control primitive people doesn't impress me.
*I defy you to present an example of the bible providing an meaningful explanation for anything, that doesn't immediately collapse under the weight of its authority's synthetic, second rate nature.*
Live well
And incorrectly
If everything "was designed", then cancer was designed. I'd love to hear why.
What about all the trees and plants that produce poisonous fruits? What is their purpose?
Yep exactly
….or all the trees that Don’t produce fruit
What about volcanoes. Then they erupt and kill people.
What about Covid?
I look at any parasite and can see gods work.
Specifically the manzanilla, the tree with sap so toxic you will get burned standing under it in the rain. Everything about it can kill humans- but iguanas seem to enjoy it.
As soon as he said "I like logic", I knew EXACTLY how this was going to go! Lol.
It is Christian "logic", not like the logic you learned.
In Christian "logic" you start with the conclusion and try to work backwards.
@@freddan6fly I like that summary.
@@freddan6fly Don't forget to throw out anything that contradicts the conclusion.
@@tye64 Great thank you. Yes I obviously forgot that.
You can live without brain. Rick proves that. Society keeps him alive.
What’s more important is how many children this man has abused by teaching them this bullshit he believes in?
Rick was never the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Not the sharpest tool in the sheeeed, with his finger and his thumb in the shape of an L on his foreheeeeeead…
Sorry. :)
He wasn't ever in the drawer.
Rick never made it out of the factory, never mind into the drawer. Quality control flushed him down the toilet and he somehow survived the sewage treatment pond.
He is as sharp as a potato.
Bro is the sharpest airplane on the titanic.
50 years old and still believing in fairy tales
So sad, I really feel sorry for them😢
I never brag about this nor is there a reason for it, just a curiosity... at 5 years old I knew for a fact religions and religious teachings cannot possibly be true
I never brag about this nor is there a reason for it, just a curiosity... at 5 years old I knew for a fact religions and religious teachings cannot possibly be true
Gonna start replying to the "Look at the trees!" bit with "Look at the baby cancer!" It's the Ray Comfort School of Trying My Best to Be the Dumbest Motherfucker Breathing.
GoD wOrKs iN mYsTeRiOuS wAyS!!
@@shaqyardie8105 "God works in mysterious ways" = "I don't have to explain that, and you shouldn't ask about it."
@@shaqyardie8105
Then they go on to tell you things they claim to objectively know about god's mysterious ways.
Puddle : Wow, look how this mud hole fits me just perfect. Awe, I 'm so special ! Someone made it just for me ! Now redemption is needed. wth ffs
This
The worst part is that the caller doesn’t realise he’s being “batted around “.
that's because he can't spell either of those words, much less understand them. If this guy understands velcro, then I've never disappointed a lover.
Magic can explain anything!
Exactly. Since magic can explain EVERYTHING it ends up being useless. It has no constraints and thus no real explanatory scope and no pragmatic usefulness.
Magic Johnson?
@@bobgreenfield9158 Yes, my johnson is magical. Thanks for asking. 🙂
@@MrMattSaxThis reminds me of an episode of "My Little Pony" when Twilight Sparkle was trying to prove that fortune telling wasn't real. Yeah, in this world where _magic_ exists, _fortune telling_ specifically isn't real.
When you add magic, there are no rules, so there is no point to anything.
Abra cadabra
One thing that got me about creation when I was a kid, was that I was told God created everything including me and all I ever saw was people creating people and animals creating other animals and trees creating fruit..
You can 100% guarantee that if this guy had been born in Saudi Arabia or Pakistan he would be making the same arguments for Allah and Mohammed and would deny christianity.
I was disappointed that no one brought up bananas
Trees do not have purpose. Humans give them purpose by virtue of enjoying what they happen to provide - fruit, oxygen, shade, etc....
Maybe it would have been a good idea to separate out the concept of "purpose" (like a designer's intent) from "utility" (something that is useful). From there if you could get him to agree that acknowledging utility doesn't inherently suggest purpose, it might have at least given him something to mull over insofar as how fallible his argument was.
I mean, I don't think there was any way to get this guy quite on the same page, but if he would even be willing to clear that first hurdle, then that could well set the groundwork for more meaningful discourse.
This exactly. What is the purpose of a rock? God must love them, 'cos they're everywhere.
To what end can we use a rock? paperweight, hammer, anvil, throw it as a weapon, throw it to know fruit out of a tree, etc.
I've watched hundreds of these videos. Every single Christian has said nothing but absurd nonsense. It's horrifying to me that it's still a thing in this world.
Hey Rick, how about you try a nice meal of Death Cap and Destroying Angel mushrooms lightly sprinkled with some Strychnine tree fruit, Foxglove, Hemlock and Mistletoe berries. 12 or so hours later please explain the purpose of these plants. Oh, you'll be a tad busy being dead but I can't see that making your argumentation skills any worse.
You guys aren't even having the same conversation... Rick's argument is so incredibly infantile that it's not at all fair to keep going, he's not capable of understanding.
Function ≠ purpose
Trees bear fruit. Therefore, they have purpose. Yes, they do. The purpose is to grow seeds to reproduce. Bearing fruit that we have adapted to take in those fruits as nutrients is secondary. Also, if we choose not to eat apples will not make us die, as the caller alleged.
"Also, if we choose not to eat apples will not make us die, as the caller alleged."
Unless that apple is offered from a talking snake - then eating that apple will doom all mankind. Don't ever eat from God's secret stash of apples.
I prefer talking about "functions" instead of "purposes" when arguing with theists. At least for me when you dig down into the definitions, "purpose" implies some conscious agent involved. A rock can roll down a hill, that's how it "functions", but rolling down isn't its "purpose". If some entity intended for it to roll, then it has "purpose".
The only thing Christianity can explain is that people are gullible...and it does that in SPADES!!!
Rick demonstrates it perfectly, which is more than we can say when he tries to demonstrate his imaginary friend
Humanity: exists for 200,000 years before Christianity
Rick: works out that Christianity must be the explanation for humanity
The oldest homo sapien bone currently found , (Jebel Irhoud in Morocco) is 315,000 year old .... but I agree with your point. Apologies for the pedantry
@@Mark13091961 Pedantry gratefully received. I didn't know that!
the first sentence shows his whole argument is from personal incredulity. he does not understand logic or reason. does he realize that trees are made up of chemicals and elements
Rick, I’d like to introduce you to Amanuel, Jon and Chuck. I’m sure you have a lot to talk about
Don't forget Kevin from NY.
This list could get long.
@@Mxxx-ii9bu yep
There was a Muslim 2 -3 years back that had an undefeatable argument for Allah. I promise It will make you repent:
I got a Toyota, therefore Allah.
@@Mxxx-ii9buAnd Mr. Delicious the 7-day guy, Xeno, Setuf, etc. A very populated list indeed.
tbh, Amanuel is sad indoctrinated abuse victim who keep fighting a battle he knows is lost, but at least he gets the words of english language that are said to him... this guy's like actually dumb, like, clinically.
And I have seen Necrotizing fasciitis, Plasmodium, Mycobacterium tuberculosis, tsunamies, ……
...hurricanes, volcanic eruptions, plagues, earthquakes, mass extinctions, tornadoes, killing in the name of any god...
pedophiles, rapists, Catholic priests, serial killers, cannibals ....
Child cancer, the Laryngeal nerve, parasites, virus, bacteria, ......
@@Sological "It was all made for us!" Then why is 99% of the universe completely uninhabitable lmfao. Was god making an expansion pack and got lazy halfway through and just released it unfinished? lmao
That's obviously the devil's doing. I mean that's what they created that myth for. Whatever we can't attribute to god and things go wrong.. it's the bad guy ofcourse..😂
"The suggestion that I don't know everything is condescending."
Without watching the video - of course Christianity can explain everything. “Because god”. That’s it.
Rick is not the kind of person who will do research n try to learn about his fallacies..never..he is stuck neck deep in his fairy tales beliefs.
"I see the trees and I eat the trees" reminds me of Neil from The Young Ones.
"We sow the seed, natures grows the seed, and then we eat the seed."
"Neil, Neil orange peel"?
Rick eats fruit then Rick has to poop.
Therefore, Rick’s purpose is to poop.
"Number Three, the Larch, therefore god"
When he said our "window" is for redemption... and he admitted we were just put here and had never asked to be here... I would ask redemption from what? Being born? What kind of cruel deity would treat his creation like that?
He gave them something to think about alright.....just not what he thought he gave them. Hahahaha
In the beginning there was nothing but space.
So where did space come from?
God made it.
Where did God come from?
God always existed.
How do you know that?
I made it up.
Purpose comes from us and always has. We always put priority on things, feelings, thoughts etc. And it’s the same with any god. We made them up so we give them purpose and meaning. How else would we say they’re good, bad, loving or anything as that?
This caller is to simple for a counter argument.
You're out of your element rick
I agree. But it's too not to !
@@jeffc2630 I am low vision and need to use voice to text and sometimes it’s hard for me to see two letters that are the same when they’re together. But thanks for the correction.
@@INSOLIASTUDIOS Also if you're using voice how would you even get the second o? do you just have to say *toooo* until it goes lmao
@@schloany4479 lol
I dont know how you can remain so calm when talking to someone with barely a basic understanding of living ?
He thinks trees bare fruit for us ?
So he's been to Sunday school and listened for five minutes, and calls an atheist show believing he's right ?
Like bringing a slingshot to a bazooka fight.
The first time I heard the trees arguement I thought, that's weird. It blows my mind that it's actually a thing. .
It's weird that adults believe and repeat it. It's the kind of thoughts i had and worked through as a small child. Concluding that that only works if I consider myself central to everything, which im not so the argument falls apart.
I agree with both of you. The trees thing is an interesting thought experiment, but it’s hardly enough to build a worldview around. “Wow let me go to church every Sunday and construct my entire value system around god….because bro the trees”
Caller: “I believe this religious bullshit because I was culturally told to believe it as a child all based on a delusion of magical sky fairies!”
It's not worth discussing the "arguments" presented, but I do wonder what it is like to be Rick.
I'm imaging walking around in Rick's brain. Lots of spider webs and it smells of old cheese.
Can't be easy. Kinda thought it was funny he was handed a way to strengthen his delusions and he saw it as "learning something an atheist recommended, therefore it's bad," slight against him.
Honestly, probably pretty great. The ignorant truly do live in bliss. They even get to make up their own bad guys when they feel like playing, "I'm being persecuted," like children playing Cops and Robbers.
Yeah but jesus though 😂😂😂
Jeebus
Sorry guys, Rick is not intelligent enough to have this conversation
Evidently
Magic is imagined to be able to do anything, so of course it can be used as an explanation for anything. The Christian god is just giving magic a personality.
As a fellow Georgian, I apologize to anyone who listened to this
Rick is a lost cause! He is stuck on thinking that everything has a purpose and just cannot entertain any other idea.
Rick: Christianity is the only logical explanation for human existence.
Humans who existed before christianity: Am I a joke to you?
That's my issue. Anthropology. We have historical records and archeological evidence of all these cultures that predated the accounts of the Bible. Yet, the Bible says that God created humans. That God has been worshipped for around 4,000 years. Where was God for the preceding 196,000 years that we know modern humans existed? Why did he let all those people invent other gods, or come up with their own creation myths? Why, when he decided to show his face, did he do so in the Middle East alone, and not the subcontinent, Europe, Australia, Africa, the Americas or the Far East as well?
I need a sensible answer to all that before I even get to the "evidence for God" bit.
Yo, yo Rick, before humans came into the picture, did trees produce fruit? If you eat some fruit that has no nutritional value, with seeds you cannot digest and so just poop them out later, who's/what's purpose is really being served, and by whom or what? You're going to need to buckle down if you expect to get all your obvious homework done.
Sometimes when I fart I fart towards the north. And I know I didn’t make that fart. That is my proof for God
Most edible vegetables and fruit today has been genetically manipulated to look good and be edible from the original CREATED things. Why didn't god create edible cucumbers? We changed them to be edible.
Wait. We were born with the purpose of being redeemed for…being born? What??
What about trees that produce poisonous fruit? What purpose for us do they serve? Population control?
What purpose viruses serve?
Study Dr. Tom Cowan.
Certain supposed
Biological entities
have not been isolated
and shown to cause
the harm that they are
alleged to cause.
I can't be more explicit
here.
You need to check
another plat
form.
@@bobgreenfield9158 I am talking about those plants that definitively cause harm. So no need to play definition games here
What purpose does rare child cancer have? A way for god to make a few families very very depressed and pained without looking like it was him?
Can Christianity explain the three body problem? Can it explain why my car ran out of gas?
Look at the trees: A hemlock tree, Strychnine tree, Manchineel tree, Milky mangrove tree - all deadly.
Rick has the mentality of a child, such simplistic nonsense
There are plenty of toxic trees, the Oleander is regularly grown as an ornamental and will kill you in 30 minutes if ingested. So.....is that it's purpose and what does it say about Rick's purpose?
Maybe he ate some as a kid but didn't die? Just a bit of his brain got damaged? ;-)
People discuss things with their friends in a circle jerk and get convinced they have a great point and then call in to the show and get slammed and can’t handle it.
Can it explain why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
Rick has “it” bad! Poor bastard..
Rick, with a silent P!😂
Apple trees have purpose but avocado trees don't. HOLY GUACAMOLE!!! How can you say such a thing? 😅
What does not living forever have to do with some kind of inherent purpose to our existence?
some toadstools look very similar to mushrooms, many people probably had to die to figure out they are deadly
Just a question: If there is purpose to life from the beginning, then is evolution even necessary???
As a fellow Gen-X dude, we do not claim this guy.
The caller should ask his god why she designed *childhood cancer!*
Or starving children when God could feed them fishes and loaves
@@knowme4iam326
Absolutely!
This god character would save them all, if she really cared.
Ya know, it is almost as if she doesn't exist!
Easy to answer that one - god made a perfect world , man ( Eve in fact ) brought sin into the world . In the garden of Eden ( where is that ?) every thing was perfect , no death .
@romnarz344 That's cute..Do you understand that other religions don't agree..Why is your version of God the correct version?
@@romnarz344
So, what yer sayin', is that god screwed up, yet again!
Not all trees are fruit trees!!
This was from when JMike was in his Babadook era
Looking at trees and the sky😂😂😂....and therefore god😂😂😂😂
"why am I here" . . . . because your parents got it on. Simple.
Only to a magical thinker, like an adult 4 year old.
At 3:40 and this one is already especially bad.
No dude, a tree does not grow fruit to feed you. It grows fruit to reproduce e and make more trees. You just happen to eat those fruit as well, but the tree would be just fine without you and still make fruit. Therefore a tree's purpose is to make more trees.
It’s like he doesn’t realise that there are probably more fruits & plants that are Toxic than there are Edible.
Intelligent creation design proponentists don’t stop with “mebbe sumthing made it.” They jump to “that’s why you need redemption.” That presupposes that we are the property, owned human servants, of that specific church. That’s where metaphysics philosophy changes into crimes against humanity.
That was hilarious !! 😂
Poor Rick cant see the forest for the trees.
What would a tree look like if it was NOT designed by a god?
Flashing lights and ornaments
There wouldn't be any trees. Fruits would have wings and fly right into your mouth. ;-)
Rick, there is no reason we're here. We just are. Just because you don't want to know or can't understand the complexity of life doesn't mean you get to sweep 4 billion years of evolution off the table because it's too complicated for you.
Did Rick ever call again? A second conversation (after he'd done as suggested by hosts) would be interesting.
Rick is conflating functional purpose (why/how things work) with "the purpose of existence", and is using functional purpose to indicate design, which is fallacious. Nothing has inherent purpose outside of its function, and human beings can give themselves purpose because of our consciousness
Dear Rick :
We know how a tree form and grow from what's actually equivalent to an egg and sperm ( called differently but there's similarities there) and all the way to a tree given the right nourishment, soil, water and sun etc.
At what specific stage does God come in?. Ans what does god do?
Where did Cain find his wife?
In the land of Nod according to the bible
But how one of his sisters got there before him is a complete mystery. 😁
@@joshsheridan9511 So Adam and Eve were not the first people.
@@anton1949 I know it makes no sense, but I didn't write the silly book.
"Where did Cain find his wife?"
E-Harmony.
Abel was hot enough. Then he was very cold on the floor :(
What actually explains every problem is the simple observation that nobody has ever demonstrated that any variety of a god thing ever existed because they don’t and never did.
So why do theists want others to believe? It goes like this: “Believe in my God, listen to what I say, do what I tell you to do, never question me, love who I tell you to love and hate who I tell you to hate. Give me your money." At the end of the day religion is all about money and power.
100000% right
"Look how this hole fits the water"
When the explanation is just god did it, it actually explains nothing.
A tree’s purpose is to give you fruit? Smells of the idea that everything is here for us. They produce fruit in order to spread their seed because they have evolved to survive and then thrive around animals that evolved around them. The evolution of ecosystems are what is profound not some eye in the sky.
jmike looks like a Biblical chraracter
We simply ended up here.
We eat FRUIT goddammit! How you don't see GOD in that! Look at the trees LOOK AT THE TREES!!!!
Close your eyes and plug your ears. it is time to head down the rabbit hole of absurtdity, hate, intolerance, stupidity and ignorance.
Show Rick ten randomly-shaped small pebbles, all different, ask him which ones he can look at and tell are 'created'.
Oak trees must not have purpose because I cant eat one....