sorry the translation of the question was a little bit messy in the video..this is a better one : Q: The aspect of death represented by members of the Espada is defined by the number assigned. Like Harribel and Nelliel who are #3? If it's different, I'd like to know what aspect Nell represented!
To be fair there is a greater vs lesser category argument that could be made, with Nel and Hallibel representing to different flavors of sacrifice. For instance sacrificing for your friends/family vs sacrificing for a cause and/or beliefs
It makes sense especially since Nel was always lamenting Nnointorra's decisions and violent rivalry. It's ultimately great that she and Harribel have ultimately gotten along and now peacefully rule Las Noches as a sanctuary.
I remember that when I read the answers to questions from Klub Outside, I found information there that the leader of Bambies, Bambietta... is actually weaker than her team, if you take into account their overall skills. If we talk about their ranking list, it looks like this: Liltotto>Meninas>Giselle>Candice> Bambietta. That's what it says in Q&A 525.
This doesn't make sense as the numbers are supposed to be rankings based on Rietsu and deadliness, with the aspect of death being tied to the individual rather than the position...because this would mean that Barragan(who was the Ruler of all of Hueco Mundo since it came into being, was the oldest Espada-and possibly the oldest Hollow in existence) would have designated HIS aspect of aging as Number 2? The guy who saw himself as God and without rival, who's resurreccion was 'Arrogante' would have set himself as '2' before Aizen purely because of the aspect/ratio?
They are. There are 10 aspects of death, and the Espada are ranked based on spirit pressure and lethality. In other words, the 10 Espada aren't simply the 10 strongest Arrancar. They are the strongest of their respective aspects of death and then are ranked accordingly. That is why Luppi and Grimmjow couldn't BOTH be Espada despite being near equal in strength (according to the CFYOW LN). There can only be 1 Espada of destruction. Every fraccione should also represent an aspect of Death too
@@corruptangel6793 👏👏 This makes so much sense. 👍 When we first saw Luppi, Grimmjow was already number 6, so its very much possible that Aizen made lots & lots of Arrancars as his reserves. And he would replace them when ever an Espada dies or is found to be unfit. 👍
@@kelvinallen9327 I think it's more a generational thing than a matter of making reserves. Aizen doesn't seem to be able to control how strong they become. The first Generation of Arrancar were made by helping each other remove their masks, and the strongest became Espada, each representing the strongest hollow of an aspect of death. The second generation was made with Aizen's Hogyoku. Every Hollow he could find was giving the evolution and then ranked accordingly, replacing any 1st Generation Espada that they could. The 3 Preverone Espada were replaced at this point, like with Nelliel replacing Dordonni as the 3rd Espada. The 3rd generation was made using the complete Hogyoku, the one created by feeding Urahara's to Aizen's. Once again, every hollow that could be amped and evolved was and then got ranked accordingly. Luppi was probably either part of the 2nd or 3rd generation. Meaning Grimmjow took the title from him, and then Luppi got it back when Grimmjow was demoted, or they were both part of the same generation and rivals from the get-go
Somewhere I read a theory that linked the aspects to Aizen's emotions or fears. For example you can see Aizen felt alone (solitutde) because he was so powerful , and you can see the one emotion that overtakes him in the end is rage. Perhaps he had fear of death and that is why the Hougyoku granted him immortality. You get the idea. I'm not sure how I feel about the aspect being linked to "what drives the hollow to grow" because then I see no point in giving them numbers or ranks. How could you say that the destruction aspect is always weaker than the ecstasy aspect ? What makes one aspect always weaker than the other no matter the wielder ?
For your last point, maybe it’s like Chainsaw Man. The more something is feared as a way of dying at any one time, the more power that gives their respective Death Aspects
It seems to me that Kubo just went with the easy answer here. It's said that the espada all embody an aspect of death. However, it's also stated multiple times that they are numbered based on strength. If the sharing of numbers denotes a shared aspect of death, then this creates a huge issue. Nnoitra for example, went up in rank (8th to 5th thanks to getting stronger) after he cracked Nels head. Did his aspect change with his rank? If so, why didn't his personality change as well, seeing that they are supposed to embody the aspect they represent? The answer that the number denotes both power and aspect breaks the lore. You can't be ranked by strength and assigned a rank based on your aspect simultaneously. A much more acceptable explanation would be that Aizen chose the Espada based on which aspect of death he still needed to fill at the time, and then ranked them based on their power while also allowing for promotions. But even that has issues thanks to Luppi. He's promoted from fraccion to 6th Espada, completely ignoring the fact that he's nowhere near powerful enough to be that rank. So that would support the shared number idea I guess (even though Luppi is arrogant not destructive like Grimmjow), but it ignores the power aspect. Personally, I think the whole aspect of death thing was something added to make them edgy, but there really doesn't seem like there was much more thought put into how it would effect the story down the line. Also, if Tier, Nel and Dordoni all shared #3 and thus the aspect of Sacrifice, then why are they such vastly different personalities? They embody the same aspect, so there should be at least some cross-over in personality, but there isn't. Sounds like more Shonen Jump forced edginess to me, they forced him to drag this arc out way longer than he intended so it's not a surprise that they screwed things up somewhere.
>If so, why didn't his personality change as well, seeing that they are supposed to embody the aspect they represent? It did. He went from being madness at thinking he's frustrated at new for being better despite being a woman, to despair when he finally realized what he felt about her when he got rid of her but it was too late.
@@monkofkrayak6235 No it didn't. He hated Nel for her aloof attitude and disdain for all things violence. He constantly challenged her because he was obsessed with proving himself the strongest (especially over a woman) and trained relentlessly to bridge the gap in power. When that failed he had Szayelaporro Granz assist him in beating her. His exact words once he's won are 'It was never power that divided us, it was experience. Pure and simple. Before your wound has healed and you've returned to Los Noches, I will have surpassed you.'. When she returns with Ichigo, he's constantly ranting about being the strongest and how his Heirro is the most best of among the espada. He laughs when he is kicking around little Nel belittling her for being weak, and then relishes the chance to crush her once she's returned to form. His personality never changes, it's a constant obsession with proving himself stronger than everyone else. If you really want to get complicated, then just look at Szayelaporro Granz. He started as the cero (#0) then split himself like stark and became a privaron espada, then regained some of his strength and was promoted to #8. He stayed the same creepy mad scientist tentacle grapist the whole time.
@monkofkrayak6235 The official bleach character relationship chart states nnoitra hated her guts. He genuinely hated her. He had no feelings for her. So stop it with this pairing.
Simo I hope you're doing well my brethren. I haven't seen an in depth analysis from you on the TYBW arc. Like how the Quincy are counter parts of Shinigami yet from the first invasion Ywach formulated his own criminal minded beings whom are relentless killers
It's most likely that the Number itself has some sort of influence on the Espada rather than the other way around. Aizen does bestow power on the Espada and it's also likely that they receive a power that corresponds to the number they are given and also has a correlation to and complements their natural abilities. A good example is the Zero espada. Both Yammy and Cien Grantz have the ability to go from a previous established number to zero. Perhaps the number zero gives them that special ability. Maybe nnoitora received the hardest Hierro of all the Espada when he became number 5 so his opponents would fight but be unable to harm him causing them to despair. Grimmjow may have been granted desgarron to represent his aspect of death and also corresponds and matches with his own natural abilities. Maybe Barragan's respira Also was granted to him as a result of his aspect of death and his number. Barragan as a hollow never used respira but he did age anything he touched away using his battlaxe. When he was a regular hollow, he could sit and his chair was unaffected, in fact, his army was unaffected by his power as well. Even the servants who served him could actually be touched by him. But when he became an espada, he could age everything away just by being in his resurrection. He can't even stand on solid ground. That was most likely the power granted to him by Aizen to compliment his power and give him the aspect of death that corresponds to the number 2. Starrk was the only espada that wasn't granted power by Aizen so only he could use his abilities before joining Aizen.
Glad you brought up Nnoitra's number change in relation to aspect of death. Always thought it was hard to reconcile the two, but I like the theory that his aspect of death may have changed over time!
Nnoitra was being driven mad when nel said she was just following because he's weaker than her, and then his heart broke and he fell in despair after he got rid of her and became the 5th
Makes sense, she tried to sacrifice herself to protect Ichiho several times and she followed Nnoitora around to prorect him because he was weaker than, her ultimately leaving her vulnerable when he attacked her fraccion.
>she followed Nnoitora around to prorect him because he was weaker I always thought that was just an excuse and she secretly enjoyed his company given how she interacted with him during his last moments.
He says death aspect… not her dying kubo is a man with creation he did bleach justice with every enemy like soul reapers ect.. each division of hell, soul, hollows, and quincies have so many different powers and traits and culture man brought captains that died and everyone back to hell to show the next arc hopefully would be the true ending of bleach he feeds the fandom waiting to see what will happen next to our favorites
The loneliness, maybe, is the first form of suffering/death because the zanpakutou feels alone at the end of battle. The aging was the second suffering beacuse is Aizen's penalty (20K years in prison). The sacrifice is the third beacuse a lot of characters died in sacrifies in the manga. Then this is a list of suffering/death for Kubo from the most painful to the lightest. Senjumaru Shutara's bankai reflects 6 aspects of death: destruction (fire), loneliness (ice), despair (sand), nothingness (staring at star), madness (mirrors). For Kubo the loneliness is the painful death: Shinji doesn't abbandon Hiyori, Urahara saves the vizards from death after Aizen's betrayal, loneliness was consuming Ichigo powerless, Kyouka suigetsu was incredible alone after the fight, Yamamoto was alone in the final moments of his life, Komamura was alone in the state of fox (then Kiba arrive to save him). Another aspect of suffering for Kubo is the time that passes: Orihime cancels the past, Barragan destroy present to make an acceleration of future, the forever exile for Urahara, Soi Fong passed many years in pain without Yoruichi, Rukia passed a lot of years without sister then without Renji, the loneliness and the passing time was consuming Ichigo powerless. SPOILER These aspects of deaths there are in the parts of Katen kyokotsu karamatsu shinju: water(ageing), same wounds (madness), illness (despair), energy blade (destruction). There is more the analysis but I can't write a novel here !! ahahaah
I always thought that power scaling didn’t have much to do with their numbers. I think it was just a part of their overall rank. Like number 2 was clearly the strongest espada. Then number 10 can become number 0. Also, think they weren’t the strongest espada. Just the ones who chose to follow Aizen
Aizen made lots of Arrancars, & Aizen can make them strong with Hygokoyu. Its wise that Aizen would have reserve Arrancars to replace fallen Espada's or Espadas who are not found to be worthy anymore. Yes, they are ranked base on power, but its also possible to have arrancars with similar personality & aspect of death. Nelliel & Hallibel are bad ass, & have similar personality. Lets just say, if Stark were to have died long ago, then Aizen would have just made another Arrancar with powers to rival Stark, or just wait for someone else with a similar personality to replace him. Aizen is bad, but he is a man of class & order. Just imagine if Aizen was The God Of Bleach.
There are 10 aspects of death, and the Espada are ranked based on spirit pressure and lethality. In other words, the 10 Espada aren't simply the 10 strongest Arrancar. They are the strongest of their respective aspects of death and then are ranked accordingly. That is why Luppi and Grimmjow couldn't BOTH be Espada despite being near equal in strength (according to the CFYOW LN). There can only be 1 Espada of destruction. Every Hollow should embody an asect of death So, Nnoitra was always despair and was the strongest hollow ebodying Despair and was thus made an Espada. Originally the 8th. Becoming not only the strongest embodiment of despair, but also the 8 strongest Hollow of them all. Then he was eventually promoted to 5th. Because the Arrabcar have to fight for their position, it means that each generation would have gotten reshuffled to some extent. Aspects of death would not remain the number they were previously. However, in some cases, due to power level, they remained the same. Nelliel was storng enough to be 3rd and Halibel was too. Same with both Grimmjow and Luppi being strong enough to be 6th. Don't forget, Barragan was recruited before Stark. So he was probably the original Premera Espada then got demoted once Stark joined.
Saying Luppi and Grimmjow near in strenght is kinda stretch. Grimmjow would demolish Luppi if he didn't get enhancement from Mayuri in CFYOW. just like Grimmjow did when he got his number back in the arrancar arc. Even if the fight continues between them in CFYOW Grimmjow would still win against Luppi.
@@bluesclues8288 Grimmjow didn't fight Luppi when getting his number back. He finished off someone with an empty tank. Remember, after taking that hit from Toshiro's Bankai and getting saved by the neggacion, we see his resurrection crumble away. Which we know from Grimmjow's battle with Ichigo means, like with Bankai, they don't have enough energy left to maintain it and are near death. We even saw that Luppi still had frozen patches on his body. All Grimmjow did was steal Toshiro's kill. Mayuri's amp just kept Luppi relative to Grimmjow.
@@corruptangel6793 you can't compare Grimmjow and Ichigo battle to Toshiro and the NPC's fights against Luppi. Ichigo's strength / power and bankai are way ahead of Toshiro's especially when Toshiro's bankai not even in a matured state yet in that arc. So if Luppi is really that "NEAR" in strenght with Grimmjow. He wouldn't got his strenght drained that much against the them. It's not a fight because the power difference between Grimm and Luppi is that much. Again, If he's really that strong he shouldn't get in trouble facing Toshiro's and the NPC's. And also Grimmjow attack him head on. He can't even dodge it or do anything.
@@bluesclues8288 Toshiro fought Halibel head on. The 3rd Espada. Luppi scaling to Grimmjow and then getting effectively one-shot by the guy who went toe-to-toe with someone who scales above first rez Ulquiorra actually makes perfect sense. Toshiro is way stronger than you are giving him credit for. I'm completely disregarding the Vice-Captains and their "fight" with Luppi. Rez Luppi used a full strength melee attack on Bankai Toshiro but didn't follow up, allowing Toshiro to safely prepare for a counter-attack without worrying about harming his allies, which he used to utterly destroy Luppi in a single blow. Luppi then got saved by the neggacion, but was still on deaths door, and Grimmjow proceeded to finish him off upon regaining his arm and rank.
So Luppy was pretty much amped by Hogyoku after he was choose to replace Grimmjow. Dordoni said that natural arrancars privaron were replaced by arrancars made by Hogyoku (or natural arrancars also enhaced by Hogyoku, like Stark, Ulquiorra, Baraggan and maybe Nnoitra and Aaroniero as well), so it's make sense that Luppy's power will grow enough to be number 6 because Aizen enhanced him with Hogyoku after he choose him as the new number 6. That means that Luppy was also originally an natural arrancar.
According to the CFYOW lightnovel, Luppi and Grimmjow fought over who would be the 6th Espada originally, and Grimmjow won by "a hair." So he wasn't amped to fill the role. He genuinely was qualified to be the 6th Espada
@corruptangel6793 I didn't know that. But that means that Luppy could be number 7 easily. I guess Aizen keep Zommary because of his hax, Szayell will also find a way to come back like he did before, so it will be no reason for Aizen to relegate him, and Aaroniero was probably also keep because of his hax.
@vastolorde6194 power wise, yes, Luppi should have been 7th. But keep in mind that each Espada embodies an aspect of death. Making Luppi 7th would mean having 2 Espada of destruction. They're not just the strongest Hollows. They're the strongest of their respective aspects of death
@corruptangel6793 So, if a stronger arrancar than 6-10 espada had the same death aspect with a mid lewel espada, he wouldn't be in the team because is "forbidden" to be 2 arrancars with the same aspect of death. Strange.
Nnoitra used to the 8th espada (when Neliel's the tres espada) then became the 5th after he suppposedly kill Neliel. Does it mean the aspect of death that he represents also changes?
I love bleach but sometimes I do think kubo just adds new detail to The storyline which somehow contradicts the previous ones leaving a lot of confusion and questions. One thing that I really want to know is why captain commander Yamamoto never got into the Royal guards, I mean he's basically the history of soul society.
@@JaybertJilla-is6ux I think Kubo's problem is, that he doesn't fully think certain things out so he'll take an easy way out even if it means using someone else's theories. There are some aspects that he does have a proper answer for but others feel just heavily winged.
Not really, I don't think the aspects are tied to the numbers. Nnoitora's power grew to the point where he became the 5 instead of 8 but his Aspect was still Despair. Maybe the Espada are organized as such that each of them has to represent a different Aspect but the order of said Aspects change according to power level. An example would be Luppi. He was strong enough to skyrocket straight to number 6, so then why wasn't he already Espada number 7 before? Maybe because him and Grimmjow are both Aspects of Destruction and as such only one of them can be an Espada at any given time, and Grimmjow was the strongest of the two so he took the spot. In his absence, the next strongest Aspect of Destruction filled the position i.e Luppi
Can we SHOW A BETTER KUBO picture! We need to use kubo in his office with his 2000s attire. Because many make fun of that photo saying "he tries to hard" Yall know he is COOL with no effort
Actually, I'm pretty sure Nel's aspect of death was already revealed quite a while back to be Lamentation. Mind you, this information does not appear in the manga. I believe it is either in one of the light novels (possibly either the Can't Fear Your Own World trilogy or The Spirits Are Forever With You) or in one of the numerous databooks or character books.
This is totally unrelated but I love how these Kubo outside also reveal in Kubo eyes he drew Nel (in adult form) to have the largest breasts in the cast. Aka she is the most busty! Man that was an real eye opening lol
contradiction with the light novels...... it's pathetic, was lamentation that Narita made up himself ? why so many contradictions with manga and the light novels ?
sorry the translation of the question was a little bit messy in the video..this is a better one :
Q: The aspect of death represented by members of the Espada is defined by the number assigned. Like Harribel and Nelliel who are #3? If it's different, I'd like to know what aspect Nell represented!
To be fair there is a greater vs lesser category argument that could be made, with Nel and Hallibel representing to different flavors of sacrifice. For instance sacrificing for your friends/family vs sacrificing for a cause and/or beliefs
It makes sense especially since Nel was always lamenting Nnointorra's decisions and violent rivalry. It's ultimately great that she and Harribel have ultimately gotten along and now peacefully rule Las Noches as a sanctuary.
Klub outside is my favorite thing ever
Honestly
Word.
I remember that when I read the answers to questions from Klub Outside, I found information there that the leader of Bambies, Bambietta... is actually weaker than her team, if you take into account their overall skills. If we talk about their ranking list, it looks like this: Liltotto>Meninas>Giselle>Candice> Bambietta. That's what it says in Q&A 525.
This doesn't make sense as the numbers are supposed to be rankings based on Rietsu and deadliness, with the aspect of death being tied to the individual rather than the position...because this would mean that Barragan(who was the Ruler of all of Hueco Mundo since it came into being, was the oldest Espada-and possibly the oldest Hollow in existence) would have designated HIS aspect of aging as Number 2? The guy who saw himself as God and without rival, who's resurreccion was 'Arrogante' would have set himself as '2' before Aizen purely because of the aspect/ratio?
I agree with you here
I also agree with you.
They are. There are 10 aspects of death, and the Espada are ranked based on spirit pressure and lethality.
In other words, the 10 Espada aren't simply the 10 strongest Arrancar. They are the strongest of their respective aspects of death and then are ranked accordingly. That is why Luppi and Grimmjow couldn't BOTH be Espada despite being near equal in strength (according to the CFYOW LN). There can only be 1 Espada of destruction. Every fraccione should also represent an aspect of Death too
@@corruptangel6793 👏👏
This makes so much sense. 👍
When we first saw Luppi, Grimmjow was already number 6, so its very much possible that Aizen made lots & lots of Arrancars as his reserves. And he would replace them when ever an Espada dies or is found to be unfit. 👍
@@kelvinallen9327 I think it's more a generational thing than a matter of making reserves. Aizen doesn't seem to be able to control how strong they become.
The first Generation of Arrancar were made by helping each other remove their masks, and the strongest became Espada, each representing the strongest hollow of an aspect of death.
The second generation was made with Aizen's Hogyoku. Every Hollow he could find was giving the evolution and then ranked accordingly, replacing any 1st Generation Espada that they could. The 3 Preverone Espada were replaced at this point, like with Nelliel replacing Dordonni as the 3rd Espada.
The 3rd generation was made using the complete Hogyoku, the one created by feeding Urahara's to Aizen's. Once again, every hollow that could be amped and evolved was and then got ranked accordingly. Luppi was probably either part of the 2nd or 3rd generation. Meaning Grimmjow took the title from him, and then Luppi got it back when Grimmjow was demoted, or they were both part of the same generation and rivals from the get-go
Somewhere I read a theory that linked the aspects to Aizen's emotions or fears.
For example you can see Aizen felt alone (solitutde) because he was so powerful , and you can see the one emotion that overtakes him in the end is rage. Perhaps he had fear of death and that is why the Hougyoku granted him immortality. You get the idea.
I'm not sure how I feel about the aspect being linked to "what drives the hollow to grow" because then I see no point in giving them numbers or ranks. How could you say that the destruction aspect is always weaker than the ecstasy aspect ? What makes one aspect always weaker than the other no matter the wielder ?
For your last point, maybe it’s like Chainsaw Man. The more something is feared as a way of dying at any one time, the more power that gives their respective Death Aspects
It seems to me that Kubo just went with the easy answer here. It's said that the espada all embody an aspect of death. However, it's also stated multiple times that they are numbered based on strength. If the sharing of numbers denotes a shared aspect of death, then this creates a huge issue. Nnoitra for example, went up in rank (8th to 5th thanks to getting stronger) after he cracked Nels head. Did his aspect change with his rank? If so, why didn't his personality change as well, seeing that they are supposed to embody the aspect they represent? The answer that the number denotes both power and aspect breaks the lore. You can't be ranked by strength and assigned a rank based on your aspect simultaneously.
A much more acceptable explanation would be that Aizen chose the Espada based on which aspect of death he still needed to fill at the time, and then ranked them based on their power while also allowing for promotions. But even that has issues thanks to Luppi. He's promoted from fraccion to 6th Espada, completely ignoring the fact that he's nowhere near powerful enough to be that rank. So that would support the shared number idea I guess (even though Luppi is arrogant not destructive like Grimmjow), but it ignores the power aspect. Personally, I think the whole aspect of death thing was something added to make them edgy, but there really doesn't seem like there was much more thought put into how it would effect the story down the line. Also, if Tier, Nel and Dordoni all shared #3 and thus the aspect of Sacrifice, then why are they such vastly different personalities? They embody the same aspect, so there should be at least some cross-over in personality, but there isn't. Sounds like more Shonen Jump forced edginess to me, they forced him to drag this arc out way longer than he intended so it's not a surprise that they screwed things up somewhere.
>If so, why didn't his personality change as well, seeing that they are supposed to embody the aspect they represent?
It did. He went from being madness at thinking he's frustrated at new for being better despite being a woman, to despair when he finally realized what he felt about her when he got rid of her but it was too late.
@@monkofkrayak6235 No it didn't. He hated Nel for her aloof attitude and disdain for all things violence. He constantly challenged her because he was obsessed with proving himself the strongest (especially over a woman) and trained relentlessly to bridge the gap in power. When that failed he had Szayelaporro Granz assist him in beating her. His exact words once he's won are 'It was never power that divided us, it was experience. Pure and simple. Before your wound has healed and you've returned to Los Noches, I will have surpassed you.'. When she returns with Ichigo, he's constantly ranting about being the strongest and how his Heirro is the most best of among the espada. He laughs when he is kicking around little Nel belittling her for being weak, and then relishes the chance to crush her once she's returned to form. His personality never changes, it's a constant obsession with proving himself stronger than everyone else.
If you really want to get complicated, then just look at Szayelaporro Granz. He started as the cero (#0) then split himself like stark and became a privaron espada, then regained some of his strength and was promoted to #8. He stayed the same creepy mad scientist tentacle grapist the whole time.
@monkofkrayak6235 The official bleach character relationship chart states nnoitra hated her guts. He genuinely hated her. He had no feelings for her. So stop it with this pairing.
This is one of those things that I can't help but wonder if he made up his answer on the spot
Klub outside videos are the Bleach content keeping me hoping for The Hell arc
Sacrifice or Lamentation to me didn't matter as both fit Nel and Harribel perfectly but it's good to have a direct answer from Kubo
Simo I hope you're doing well my brethren. I haven't seen an in depth analysis from you on the TYBW arc. Like how the Quincy are counter parts of Shinigami yet from the first invasion Ywach formulated his own criminal minded beings whom are relentless killers
It's most likely that the Number itself has some sort of influence on the Espada rather than the other way around.
Aizen does bestow power on the Espada and it's also likely that they receive a power that corresponds to the number they are given and also has a correlation to and complements their natural abilities.
A good example is the Zero espada.
Both Yammy and Cien Grantz have the ability to go from a previous established number to zero. Perhaps the number zero gives them that special ability.
Maybe nnoitora received the hardest Hierro of all the Espada when he became number 5 so his opponents would fight but be unable to harm him causing them to despair.
Grimmjow may have been granted desgarron to represent his aspect of death and also corresponds and matches with his own natural abilities.
Maybe Barragan's respira Also was granted to him as a result of his aspect of death and his number. Barragan as a hollow never used respira but he did age anything he touched away using his battlaxe. When he was a regular hollow, he could sit and his chair was unaffected, in fact, his army was unaffected by his power as well. Even the servants who served him could actually be touched by him. But when he became an espada, he could age everything away just by being in his resurrection. He can't even stand on solid ground. That was most likely the power granted to him by Aizen to compliment his power and give him the aspect of death that corresponds to the number 2.
Starrk was the only espada that wasn't granted power by Aizen so only he could use his abilities before joining Aizen.
Glad you brought up Nnoitra's number change in relation to aspect of death. Always thought it was hard to reconcile the two, but I like the theory that his aspect of death may have changed over time!
Nnoitra was being driven mad when nel said she was just following because he's weaker than her, and then his heart broke and he fell in despair after he got rid of her and became the 5th
Makes sense, she tried to sacrifice herself to protect Ichiho several times and she followed Nnoitora around to prorect him because he was weaker than, her ultimately leaving her vulnerable when he attacked her fraccion.
>she followed Nnoitora around to prorect him because he was weaker
I always thought that was just an excuse and she secretly enjoyed his company given how she interacted with him during his last moments.
Kinda unrelated but what’s the name of the song you used to use in your older videos ? Pretty sure it was from one of the Bleach OSTs…
I think its what you propose in the end their aspect must be ubrelated to the number
but that still doesnt mean that Luppy made a lick of sense
Those Kids could be Espada 2, because "People are born dying" or "Birth is so close to Death." .
Doldoni being #3 makes so much sense in retrospect 🤯
He says death aspect… not her dying kubo is a man with creation he did bleach justice with every enemy like soul reapers ect.. each division of hell, soul, hollows, and quincies have so many different powers and traits and culture man brought captains that died and everyone back to hell to show the next arc hopefully would be the true ending of bleach he feeds the fandom waiting to see what will happen next to our favorites
Nel's aspect of death: the warm embrace of a bosom when you die hopefully lol
The loneliness, maybe, is the first form of suffering/death because the zanpakutou feels alone at the end of battle. The aging was the second suffering beacuse is Aizen's penalty (20K years in prison). The sacrifice is the third beacuse a lot of characters died in sacrifies in the manga. Then this is a list of suffering/death for Kubo from the most painful to the lightest.
Senjumaru Shutara's bankai reflects 6 aspects of death: destruction (fire), loneliness (ice), despair (sand), nothingness (staring at star), madness (mirrors).
For Kubo the loneliness is the painful death: Shinji doesn't abbandon Hiyori, Urahara saves the vizards from death after Aizen's betrayal, loneliness was consuming Ichigo powerless, Kyouka suigetsu was incredible alone after the fight, Yamamoto was alone in the final moments of his life, Komamura was alone in the state of fox (then Kiba arrive to save him).
Another aspect of suffering for Kubo is the time that passes: Orihime cancels the past, Barragan destroy present to make an acceleration of future, the forever exile for Urahara, Soi Fong passed many years in pain without Yoruichi, Rukia passed a lot of years without sister then without Renji, the loneliness and the passing time was consuming Ichigo powerless.
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These aspects of deaths there are in the parts of Katen kyokotsu karamatsu shinju: water(ageing), same wounds (madness), illness (despair), energy blade (destruction).
There is more the analysis but I can't write a novel here !! ahahaah
I thibk maybe kubo did not think much about this
Kubo ❤
I always thought that power scaling didn’t have much to do with their numbers. I think it was just a part of their overall rank. Like number 2 was clearly the strongest espada. Then number 10 can become number 0. Also, think they weren’t the strongest espada. Just the ones who chose to follow Aizen
Aizen made lots of Arrancars, & Aizen can make them strong with Hygokoyu. Its wise that Aizen would have reserve Arrancars to replace fallen Espada's or Espadas who are not found to be worthy anymore.
Yes, they are ranked base on power, but its also possible to have arrancars with similar personality & aspect of death. Nelliel & Hallibel are bad ass, & have similar personality. Lets just say, if Stark were to have died long ago, then Aizen would have just made another Arrancar with powers to rival Stark, or just wait for someone else with a similar personality to replace him.
Aizen is bad, but he is a man of class & order. Just imagine if Aizen was The God Of Bleach.
Kubo is clearly making things up as he goes along.
I always thought Nels aspect was the same as Hallibel's in opposition. Hallibels fraccion sacrificed for her, Nel sacroficed for her Fraccion.
Yammy=Rage
Stark and Lilynette=Solitude/Loneliness
Barragan=Senescence/Aging
Halibel=Sacrifice
Nelliel=Sorrow/Lamentation
Ulquiorra=Nothingness/Emptiness/Nihilism
Nnoitora=Despair
Grimmjow=Destruction
Luppi=Destruction
Zommari=Ecstacy/Intoxication
Szayelapporo=Madness
Aaroniero=Greed/Gluttony
There are 10 aspects of death, and the Espada are ranked based on spirit pressure and lethality.
In other words, the 10 Espada aren't simply the 10 strongest Arrancar. They are the strongest of their respective aspects of death and then are ranked accordingly. That is why Luppi and Grimmjow couldn't BOTH be Espada despite being near equal in strength (according to the CFYOW LN). There can only be 1 Espada of destruction. Every Hollow should embody an asect of death
So, Nnoitra was always despair and was the strongest hollow ebodying Despair and was thus made an Espada. Originally the 8th. Becoming not only the strongest embodiment of despair, but also the 8 strongest Hollow of them all. Then he was eventually promoted to 5th.
Because the Arrabcar have to fight for their position, it means that each generation would have gotten reshuffled to some extent. Aspects of death would not remain the number they were previously. However, in some cases, due to power level, they remained the same. Nelliel was storng enough to be 3rd and Halibel was too. Same with both Grimmjow and Luppi being strong enough to be 6th. Don't forget, Barragan was recruited before Stark. So he was probably the original Premera Espada then got demoted once Stark joined.
Saying Luppi and Grimmjow near in strenght is kinda stretch.
Grimmjow would demolish Luppi if he didn't get enhancement from Mayuri in CFYOW.
just like Grimmjow did when he got his number back in the arrancar arc.
Even if the fight continues between them in CFYOW Grimmjow would still win against Luppi.
@@bluesclues8288 Grimmjow didn't fight Luppi when getting his number back. He finished off someone with an empty tank. Remember, after taking that hit from Toshiro's Bankai and getting saved by the neggacion, we see his resurrection crumble away. Which we know from Grimmjow's battle with Ichigo means, like with Bankai, they don't have enough energy left to maintain it and are near death. We even saw that Luppi still had frozen patches on his body. All Grimmjow did was steal Toshiro's kill.
Mayuri's amp just kept Luppi relative to Grimmjow.
@@corruptangel6793 you can't compare Grimmjow and Ichigo battle to Toshiro and the NPC's fights against Luppi.
Ichigo's strength / power and bankai are way ahead of Toshiro's especially when Toshiro's bankai not even in a matured state yet in that arc. So if Luppi is really that "NEAR" in strenght with Grimmjow. He wouldn't got his strenght drained that much against the them.
It's not a fight because the power difference between Grimm and Luppi is that much. Again, If he's really that strong he shouldn't get in trouble facing Toshiro's and the NPC's. And also Grimmjow attack him head on. He can't even dodge it or do anything.
@@bluesclues8288 Toshiro fought Halibel head on. The 3rd Espada. Luppi scaling to Grimmjow and then getting effectively one-shot by the guy who went toe-to-toe with someone who scales above first rez Ulquiorra actually makes perfect sense. Toshiro is way stronger than you are giving him credit for.
I'm completely disregarding the Vice-Captains and their "fight" with Luppi. Rez Luppi used a full strength melee attack on Bankai Toshiro but didn't follow up, allowing Toshiro to safely prepare for a counter-attack without worrying about harming his allies, which he used to utterly destroy Luppi in a single blow. Luppi then got saved by the neggacion, but was still on deaths door, and Grimmjow proceeded to finish him off upon regaining his arm and rank.
that's actually a really good take on it and does help undestand it a bit more logically. nice catch
Did the aspect of death by espadas determines their power/reiatsu/ranking?
So Luppy was pretty much amped by Hogyoku after he was choose to replace Grimmjow. Dordoni said that natural arrancars privaron were replaced by arrancars made by Hogyoku (or natural arrancars also enhaced by Hogyoku, like Stark, Ulquiorra, Baraggan and maybe Nnoitra and Aaroniero as well), so it's make sense that Luppy's power will grow enough to be number 6 because Aizen enhanced him with Hogyoku after he choose him as the new number 6. That means that Luppy was also originally an natural arrancar.
According to the CFYOW lightnovel, Luppi and Grimmjow fought over who would be the 6th Espada originally, and Grimmjow won by "a hair."
So he wasn't amped to fill the role. He genuinely was qualified to be the 6th Espada
@corruptangel6793 I didn't know that. But that means that Luppy could be number 7 easily. I guess Aizen keep Zommary because of his hax, Szayell will also find a way to come back like he did before, so it will be no reason for Aizen to relegate him, and Aaroniero was probably also keep because of his hax.
@vastolorde6194 power wise, yes, Luppi should have been 7th. But keep in mind that each Espada embodies an aspect of death. Making Luppi 7th would mean having 2 Espada of destruction. They're not just the strongest Hollows. They're the strongest of their respective aspects of death
@corruptangel6793 So, if a stronger arrancar than 6-10 espada had the same death aspect with a mid lewel espada, he wouldn't be in the team because is "forbidden" to be 2 arrancars with the same aspect of death. Strange.
@@vastolorde6194 I like it, but I also recognize that it does seem to be more for aesthetic reasons than practicality.
Nnoitra used to the 8th espada (when Neliel's the tres espada) then became the 5th after he suppposedly kill Neliel. Does it mean the aspect of death that he represents also changes?
I love bleach but sometimes I do think kubo just adds new detail to The storyline which somehow contradicts the previous ones leaving a lot of confusion and questions. One thing that I really want to know is why captain commander Yamamoto never got into the Royal guards, I mean he's basically the history of soul society.
@@JaybertJilla-is6ux I think Kubo's problem is, that he doesn't fully think certain things out so he'll take an easy way out even if it means using someone else's theories. There are some aspects that he does have a proper answer for but others feel just heavily winged.
Not really, I don't think the aspects are tied to the numbers. Nnoitora's power grew to the point where he became the 5 instead of 8 but his Aspect was still Despair. Maybe the Espada are organized as such that each of them has to represent a different Aspect but the order of said Aspects change according to power level.
An example would be Luppi. He was strong enough to skyrocket straight to number 6, so then why wasn't he already Espada number 7 before? Maybe because him and Grimmjow are both Aspects of Destruction and as such only one of them can be an Espada at any given time, and Grimmjow was the strongest of the two so he took the spot. In his absence, the next strongest Aspect of Destruction filled the position i.e Luppi
yeah, his frustrations with new when he was 8th was driving him crazy but he fell to despair when he took her down and became the 5th.
Yammy=Rage
Stark and Lilynette=Solitude/Loneliness
Barragan=Senescence/Aging
Halibel=Sacrifice
Nelliel=Sorrow/Lamentation
Ulquiorra=Nothingness/Emptiness/Nihilism
Nnoitora=Despair
Grimmjow=Destruction
Luppi=Destruction
Zommari=Ecstacy/Intoxication
Szayelapporo=Madness
Aaroniero=Greed/Gluttony
I will support you with my Ritsu but I will give you one hold
Can we SHOW A BETTER KUBO picture!
We need to use kubo in his office with his 2000s attire.
Because many make fun of that photo saying "he tries to hard"
Yall know he is COOL with no effort
Actually, I'm pretty sure Nel's aspect of death was already revealed quite a while back to be Lamentation.
Mind you, this information does not appear in the manga. I believe it is either in one of the light novels (possibly either the Can't Fear Your Own World trilogy or The Spirits Are Forever With You) or in one of the numerous databooks or character books.
Nels has been Lament. Havent we known this for a while
It's Sacrifice.
Expendable not expandable . Meaning of little significance, able to be readily discarded
Title hurt me. For a minute, I honestly thought Nel died.
Where is Nel's hollow hole?
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In her chest, this has been confirmed by Brave Souls
WHAT?!!! …NEL DIES ?!😭😭😭😭
Personally i prefer lamentations
This is totally unrelated but I love how these Kubo outside also reveal in Kubo eyes he drew Nel (in adult form) to have the largest breasts in the cast. Aka she is the most busty! Man that was an real eye opening lol
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Wait what? When did she die?? Wth
Simo will pass
Half of the answers Kubo gives are made up on the spot or don’t make sense at all.
contradiction with the light novels...... it's pathetic, was lamentation that Narita made up himself ?
why so many contradictions with manga and the light novels ?
Except Nel didn't die....
Ju
Yeh sorry ulq low diffs the rest of the espada