The Problem With Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man
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Disney Plus is out with a new take on Spider-Man. With new versions of Norman Osborn, Peter Parker, Aunt May and more in tow. So how is it? I go over it all here.
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You didn’t even mention that uncle Ben was dead before Peter even got powers
ok now I understand I won't watch a single episode of this garbage
Making Osborn a potential mentor figure is a neat little change.
The animation and style does look a bit rough, though, I agree.
I'm liking it so far man
It was ok. I do feel like it could have been better though
tiktokers ALREADY use this kind of writing as a stereotype to make fun of millennials. you dont have to wait 30 years
Makes sense tbh. I'm in my late 20s and I feel like I saw that kind of writing when I watched cartoons as a kid.
I'm so tired of that awkwardness. Most people aren't that awkward. It's incredibly frustrating to sit through ALL THE TIME as a baseline.
@@wallcouldtalk Modern hollywood makes a LOT more sense when you realize it's written almost exclusively by people who unironically do not know how to have a normal, human conversation with another person and just act like a stereotype of every single demographic of themselves
@@wallcouldtalkpeter is tho
It’ll definitely be worse in 30 years though
I love your comment about Peter being a jerk sometimes, but choosing not to be most of the time since that's the responsible thing. The Raimi films did that very well. Even before he got the black suit and became emo Peter. Like him saying, "I missed the part where that's my problem." When the promoters money got stolen in the first film. I can't imagine Holland's Spider-Man being that sassy.
What about "How's your daughter" in Homecoming, that's a level of sass from Holland I can't imagine Tobey having
He HAS been sassy lol...he's literally had his moments showing that side of him.
@@spider-man3576 y eso es todo un escena de 5 segundos y en el resto de la trilogia sacando al duende verde es el personaje mas blando y con menos personalidad.
I hate how common this take is. I understand why people love the 90's cartoon and the Raimi movies but those don't encapsulate the most common Peter Parker we've seen in the comics over the last 40 years. Spider-man Twitter (aka Raimi-only Army) is such a drag on this universe. This cartoon and the Tom Holland movies have many flaws but Holland's depiction of Peter should not be getting this much flack. As someone who has been buying and reading Spidey comics since I was 10 years old, it makes me not want to interact with Spider-man fans anymore.
@@SockBramson_ soft boy uwu tom holland
They need to stop giving Peter miles’ origin story and having him go to a fancy MIT school
He doesn’t in this. He was going to midtown but it blew up so now he goes to Bayles which is pretty ordinary
I thought it was fine. But i really am sick of this take on Peter as a adorkable teen with a bland generic teen nerd personality. When Peter in his early years was more of a jaded teen.
Edit: People keep acting like I’m summarizing the entire early years history of Peter by saying his only character trait was that he’s jaded. That’s not what I’m doing. He gained more confidence and had more fun as a result of being spider-man. He was also still a nerd. But he could also be kinda standoffish at times. Especially early on. And if you think he didn’t feel jaded in his early years, read some of the original Lee ditko issues. Even conway’s Peter could be standoffish. And it’s not like I want spider-man’s personality to just perpetually default to that norm. But I am also so sick of this awkward cutesy personality for Peter. It’s so grating.
It's obvious these teenagers is written by middle aged people
Yeah, like superman, peter is someone who choose the hard way, because it make the life easier for those around him
I'm just tired of High school Spider-man. Id really want a Superman and Lois esque take on Spider-man. Just him in his adulthood balancing his home life with MJ and his circle of friends in his neighborhood and his life as Spider-man. If not that least have him meet Harry and MJ in college. Kinda hope for the mcu his college life is explored and personally I'd like his friends to be Harry and Kitty Pryde. Kitty Pryde being the love interest.
Early years Parker was pushed around, won one half of the origin story lotto, tried to make it big and got the other half of the origin.
Breaking into the Baxter Building, picking fights with Johnny Storm and Jolly Jonah, stressing about not just school life but life-life as well and still standing up to it all or pulling together schemes with that big brain to make it happen. And the guilt that drives him to do what is right. A lot of that is core to Spider-Man.
Both Spider-Man the animated series and Spectacular knew how important that stuff was. And the last couple of Spider-Man shows just didn't get it. Still I didn't find these first couple of episodes nearly as grating as Ultimate or Marvel's.
Scientist, nerd, a little bit of jerk, terrifyingly broke but still emotional that's high school Spider-Man. And yeah I'm kinda tired of having this dish, but it's nice to see a seemingly palatable recipe for a change.
But God I'd like to see college or post grad Spider-Man.
Youre absolutely wrong ,the original spider wasn't shy he was more like Andrew's version of Peter Parker in the early years.
The fact that Uncle Ben died before Peter got bitten by the spider is infuriating, his reason for being Spider-Man is because he's inspired by other heroes. They basically turned him into Deku from My Hero Academia.
that timing was strange
It kinda sucks to hear deku being used as a lesser version of a hero when he started pretty strong 😭
@@Minty_Blitz that stuttering mess didnt even train to be a hero before he got DEI quirk😂
That's how he was inspired in the 1st place though. It was the F4 that lead his decisions for the most part and it was Ben deaths that hammered in those heroic traits.
@@Rage_Templar Not really, Ben died first then it was F4 so it's in reverse
Holy crap you articulated my problem with Peter in this show perfectly.
I don't get why this couldn't have been centered around Miles Morales.
@@somerandolad because nobody want Miles Morales if we have Peter Parker
@@УбийцаНегров-р6зI want more Miles content
@@somerandoladbecause there are a lot of miles hater the show being called woke already and if miles was the main character is probably get more hate
Miles has a movie franchise with 10 million times the budget of this show, He’s a big part of the insomniac games. He was a major character in the last show.
Spectacular Spider-Man came out 2008 and is still the most comic accurate interpretation of Spider-Man ever.
The way I see it, spectacular is the comic accurate while yfnsm is mcu adjacent
Spectacular is mostly based on Raimi movies. You can look up at compilation videos of Raimi and Spectacular. JJ Jameson is A hole in comics but Raimi movies changed it. In part Raimi movies are based on Spiderman TAS 1994. Green goblins split personality, venom etc.
@@xenon6947 No that’s literally just based on the comics…Also while the Rami movies were great, the high school aspect and balancing the challenges of being a superhero and a teenager is something from the comics. Not necessarily the Raimi movies where he was already an adult.
@ my point is that each takes inspiration from previous iterations
@@xenon6947no it's not, just because the show reference some scenes from the raimi movies dose not mean the show was inspired by it. Idk why raimi fans want to insist this and then their argument is just a bunch of references the show makes
The flanderization of tom holland’s spiderman into these modern iterations is really lame
No
@@thegreatacolyt1277yes
Crazy some of the best version of Spider-Man are from the flanderization of Raimi Spider-Man
@Stealthybat39 what are you talking about?
I'm just tired of projects outside of the movies for both Marvel and DC having to be like the movies they changed the way characters look like in Suicide Squad to match their movie counterparts DC has always done stuff like that they forced Batman the Animated Series to be like the Tim Burton Batman movies
Leo Romero’s art style is one of my favorites. 3D doesn’t capture its essence; I wish the show was in 2D.
That’s what I thought it would be from the beginning. I was honestly disappointed when I saw what animation looked like
Then YOU try to work on your own crud man. We don't agree all that much about the style there as it looks pretty good in itself.
@@keijijohnson9754its objectively bad, its clearly supposed to be 2d but they cheaped out and went for stiff 3d. Idk why your defending the billion dollar corporation, its not a slight on the animators, they just didnt pay for the higher quality and almost 100% didnt give them time to make it looks good
@Shine0222 Yeah no.😑
"Objectively" my butt, that's just a way of you trying to excuse just how biased you are expressing towards one form of animation.
You don't even know how the thought process is when it comes to deciding on an art style and it just shows more there with what you just said.
And the whole "defending the billion dollar corporation" BS just makes you even more arrogant as well. Just because I actually LIKE how the show looked doesn't make it a sign of defending anyone. If anything it just makes you more disrespectful to those that just don't agree with you.
@@Shine0222
Agree. DC has the most awesome animated movies, shorts and series, no discussions about it (quality wise).
While disney with a bigger budget, always is lacking. If they gave part of the 300mil$ from captain America 4, to the animation department, maybe this Spiderman was 2D like creature commandos, AND the 'What If' wouldn't look so sh*tt*.
They waste to much on a declining MCU instead of MAU.
The thing that perplexed me is, what is Peter's motivation to be Spider-Man? Uncle Ben passed away before he got bit by the spider. We don't need to see the origin but what drives him to be a hero in this series? Maybe we'll find out
There’s a prequel comic that explains what happens, it’s only two issues so far but it’s still going
@@mattkugelman4369 I feel like one of the Mr. Plinkett Star Wars reviews: "And don't tell me it's in a book! I ain't never done no reading."
I mean, I have done reading (and quite goodly of it too!) but yeah, I feel that.
Im curious to the details as well, but the writer explained in an AMA that Peter became Spider-man because he was raised by Uncle Ben. Instead of learning the "lesson" in the span of one night, this Peter has learned those lessons throughout his life with Ben. He's still Spider-man because of Ben, but presumably, because he already knew that. Not because he made a big mistake. But who knows. We don't know how Ben died or Peters part in it. That I know of anyway.
@@csblakeley "and quite goodly" lmao, I caught that. That was a clever joke :)
We don't need to see all of that anymore, that'd what you don't understand. WE KNOW THE STORY!!!!!! And if they wanted to they could revisit that in a flashback.
Im not really into comics, but hearing your thoughts on Ditko's spiderman makes me want to see a Peter that was kind of a resentful and selfish "nice guy", but is now trying his best (and struggling) to reform himself as a way of dealing with Uncle Ben's death
Yeah, early early Spidey could be a pretty huge asshole sometimes. And he comes off as a decent guy with a cynical and bitter attitude towards the world just under the surface.
Ditko is a very well known Randian, his personal resentment and political outlook definitely comes out the more creative control he has.
@@melonyrobinson9944 yeah Peter is much more complex in the comics
I definitely view classic Peter as like the 'almost incel.' The kid with legitmate issues but also probably would've been more well liked if they were confident/took a leap of faith.
So spectacular spider man?
I'd like to see a Spiderman show or movie where Peter is a grown adult, has a family with Mary Jane, and focuses Peter's family life, and him being a Spiderman at the same time.
like the new Ultimate Spider-Man comics. check it out if you don't know what i mean. It's pretty nice to see
Superman and Lois: Spiderman Edition
Maybe even kids that have his powers, or some variation of them.
I do miss that angry teenage Peter Parker from the Ditko era. We've seen it expertly done in Spectacular, the Amazing movies, and even in both the 90's show and MTV show where he's in college. It was even present in the Raimi movies when Tobey's Peter seemed like a sweetheart, but he had his own bouts of anger. It was a personality trait that I find so fascinating, but it is sadly missing in more recent interpretations.
I honestly can't give this series a chance when the writers completely misses the point of Uncle Ben's death. It's like if Bruce Wayne's parents died of a heart attack and that still somehow leads Bruce to becoming Batman. It completely undermines why their death is so important to the characters.
These writers are basically saying there is no reason for Uncle Ben to die, which is Bull$hit. If either Rami's Peter or Web's Peter let the killer go and he killed someone else who Peter knows, you think he will care as much, no, even less so if it was a random person.
The whole point of Peter being responsible for Uncle Ben's death is for him to learn the world doesn't revolve around him and that his actions have consequences. He even said to himself in the original comic that he didn't care about what happens to anyone else, he only cared about his Uncle and Aunt.
Peter being a selfish dick for one sec caused him everything. Because of him, Aunt May lost her husband. Because of him, his family has money trouble. Because of him, his Aunt is worried that something similar is going to happened to him. Because of him, he lost the most important person in his life.
Even the MCU mentions Uncle Ben's death in Captain America Civil War when Peter was talking to Tony, because even they know his death is important to the character.
Not having Uncle Ben's death be Peter's fault completely misses the point of Uncle Ben's death.
PREACH!!!
@@JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache I think you're being to harsh the series just has 2 episodes out we don't even know how Ben died also you'd probably hate the recent ultimate Spider-Man
You know what’s worse? His corpse doesn’t exists in the MCU right after NWH, THERE’S NO BEN AT ALL🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@nadimls3672 there's an uncle Ben in the MCU they just don't refer to him directly
@@omoefeasiemo3601 alive or dead?
First two episodes were good but I don’t really vibe with the origin story change, especially since some of the more emotional moments in the first first couple episodes would’ve hit harder if this Peter lost his Ben by letting the thief go. Still excited to see more
Okay but ultimate Spider-Man comics literally keeps uncle Ben alive and is beloved. The entire origin has been changed and people prefer it to the cannon spiderman in the comics.
@@Verum_XXII not really the same thing though
Same here
@@Verum_XXIIthose comics still provide a good reason for Peter becoming Spider-Man - that being his mid-life crisis rooted in a general desire for something more. Meanwhile this Spider-Man has no compelling reason for wearing the mask, at least so far.
"Ben by letting the thief go." Isnt that cliche enough? Im sure MOST of the Spider-Men (Peter Parker) Lost their Ben like that.
I wasn't disappointed by the first two episodes, but the entire time, I just found myself wishing Disney and Sony could hammer out a deal for Spectacular Spider-Man to continue, even after the death of Alan Rachins.
At any rate, we're stuck with this series for the forseeable future, as Disney has already greenlit two more seasons.
I’m right there with you. Seeing this show honestly made me appreciate Josh keaton’s peter so much more. I also adore Garfield even though his movies aren’t very good but he’s fantastic and easily those actors remind me of the character from the comics the most.
@@Tea_Time_480 Look unfortunately that's not gonna happen - Greg Weisman's already explained why countless times. Thankfully he's writing an ongoing Spectacular Spider-Men comic and it even features older versions of the Spectacular cast hanging out with Peter and Miles.
@@benwasserman8223 I’m aware of that but it doesn’t mean we can’t see Keaton play spider-man again in a new series or another video game like he has before.
@ I think right now Yuri Lowenthal has a lock on Spider-Man video game voices. Though Keaton has done several group dubs of Weisman’s comics with fellow Spectacular cast members. That’s as close as we’re getting to season 3 but I’ll take it.
@ and even then. It doesn’t mean we have to keep going back to the well of making inferior teenage spider-man shows that give him a supporting cast that he never had in the comics. Peter was pretty isolated in high school in the comics. The closest thing he had to a friend was Johnny storm and even then it took a minute for that to develop. Harry, Mary Jane, Gwen, he met them all in college.
I miss 2D animation being the norm. Unless you’re making a high budget film like Spider-Verse, imo 2D will always look better than 3D animation. Shows like Teen Titans and Spectacular look great to this day. This new show has been out for 2 days and already looks horrible by today’s standards.
But what do u classify as "today's standard"? The other popular animated superhero show that comes to mind is Invincible....and it being 2D doesn't really help. I'd rather swinging with actual animation than png being dragged across the screen to show flying.
@@yatharthrai4658 By "todays standard", shows like Arcane, Batman: Caped Crusader, and Creature Commandos come to mind. I think Arcane is actually an amazing example of 3D animation being used to it's fullest and wouldn't benefit from being 2D. X-Men 97 looks good but FNSM and X-Men 97 are both trying to emulate an art style that was made for 2D animation so why not just go for it. Leonardo Romero's (FNSM character designer) art style looks awesome but doesn't translate super good into 3D.
Also, I think Invincible animation is okay. Should definitely be a lot better considering it's popularity and how much money Amazon has. But remember that scene with Agent Spider in Invincible S2? That's a great example of what Spider-Man could look like in that animation style, especially if you watch Browntable's redrawing of the scene with Spectacular Spider-Man.
There's plenty of 2D shows that look like garbage and are animated cheaply. I don't think a high budget will save your animation if you have weak art direction. 2D or 3D.
And this show certainly has strong art direction.
Same, especially when it came to hand drawn type animation. Venture Bros was the last of its kind to have it when it ended a year or two ago.
The pain of using Cel shaded models and environments with hand-lit scenes, all locked at 12FPS
Maybe this show being Non-Canon to the prime MCU universe isn't such a bad idea.
Something you got wrong is that Peter doesn't go into a stem school, because the MCU school he's in actually IS Stem but that school gets destroyed at the beginning of the show in the Doctor Strange fight and he then goes to another school which Peter resents because of the opportunity he lost
11:57 this is exactly why I appreciate the episodes of smallville where Clark dabbles in red kryptonite. We need to see he’s capable of being a villain but he chooses not to.
Spectacular Peter is peak Peter
Just a note, but I'm pretty sure he isn't going to the gifted school anymore, because of the damage from the strange fight he had to go to his local one. Which is why his baby sitter is there, and it's confirmed when he talks to Nico about the Osbourne Internship saying he could get access to advanced tech, even nicer then the stuff he could have gotten at the gifted school.
We'll see by the end of the show.
Yeah CaptainMidnight missed that I think
Exactly, so many people I see online bringing up the “Oh he’s going to a school for geniuses” point constantly when it’s literally in the first episode shown that because of that fight messing up the school he has to go to the regular high school.
Makes me feel like a lot of people either really didn’t pay attention while watching or are just going off what others have said who in turn obviously didn’t pay attention or really watch the episodes.
@@smokinbandit2833 to be fair it's not super well communicated, especially with Niko joining Peter at the local high and Peter not being super surprised.
@@hbeau1900yes this, I almost missed that he ended up going to Bale High
I'm surprised Uncle Ben's death was just a throw away line delivered before the spider bite.
I think letting the pizza shop thief go would be a more powerful bookend to the origin arc had we seen Peter trust her even after his motives to be Spider-Man were inspired directly by regretting letting another thief get away
Andrew Luck reference caught me off guard 😂 man if only they got him an o-line earlier in his career
I'd love to see a twist on this arco type for Peter where he's overly understanding and polite to try and either cover up or overcome his pride. Maybe there's a scene somewhere that shows him letting people walk over him to the point where the only reason people will care about him is because he's their water boy or something, and some time later he just can't hold back his pride and anger and blows up on the people he loves.
Now you get a good balance of Ditko's Spidey, and the modern Spidey.
They should honestly just bring back 1994 Spider-Man or Spectacular Spider-Man both are the BEST Spidey shows ever
1994 Spiderman was in the finale of X-Men '97, *with MJ* which means he found her! The fan reaction to it was really good, so hopefully they'll do a "Spiderman '98" 😉
Anyone else remember Mtv's Spiderman? So fun. I'd like a Peter that gets to growup, like he is already spider-man, and dealing with hero work as an adult. I know Tobey was very 'adult' but he wasn't meant to be. So seeing that part of Peter's life would be so fresh to see for once.
I’d prefer to have have him out of college. Atleast ps4 did it and I’ve always been thankful for that
To give credit to that show, that series had the scariest take and version on Electro ever
@@gbygby7by7by8nym8Some characters are just always going to be kids, lol. The same way some characters are always going to be adults.
I really do miss the version of spiderman that was a bit of a dick that would tell the fantastic four to piss off when he found out he wouldnt get paid working with them
Honestly, would love to see this more with Spider-Man portrayals. It is both very human in some ways and funny.
Right, I miss that sassy Spider-man.
Or savage spider-man from the first Ultimate Alliance
For some reason they try so hard to make spiderman a goody two shoes or cringe to try and make him quirky. He was an angsty teen who had issues and would lash out because of it. He was selfish asshole who really got humbled after Ben died finding out you never know what you have until it's gone.
@@Badboy25251He was a kid with a rough childhood and his classmates were all idiots, but I think they do this with the character so you know not to offend anyone which is dumb.
god i hate how much better spectacular spider-man has been as an adaptation than anything since, we had the peak of spider-man and they took it out back and killed it
It was just too beautiful for this world.
At least Spider-Verse made it canon again.
@@LordCrate-du8zm when was it ever not "canon"? I swear that word has lost all meaning and the film was using it ironically.
@ i dont like that he sides with miguel though
@ Same! Greg Weisman was on an interviewing saying he was happy to hear Josh in the film, but Spectacular Spider-Man would have been one of the guys with Gwen's team to back up Miles at the end.
I honestly can't believe you didn't talk about the most contentious point about the show the fact that they changed the origin to the point where uncle Ben is essentially meaningless
This is something I didn’t want to speak too soon on. I probably should have paid it some lip service, but I’m very interested to see how they handle that throughout the rest of the season and if that is really the case. Withholding judgement at the moment.
@@captainmidnightI think there’s a chance they’ll flashback to his death in the final episode. Also; that Peter will still be responsible in a roundabout way, even if he didn’t have powers.
To be fair this is based on the MCU mostly, so we might just get that moment with May like in NWH
honestly I like it am tired of peter being a good person solely being tied to ben comes off as 1 dimensional. peter doesn't need ben to die to be a good hero and plenty of comics show this.
@lonz9841 it completely recontextualized the reason why peter becomes Spider-Man and peter now lacks any motivation to be a hero the reason uncle Ben's death is important is because it shows peter the consequences of using his powers for personal gain it's not something that ruins the show for me but it definitely has the adverse effect of making his character less interesting like seriously what his drive to be a hero besides just being a good person
This one commenter said: Danny Phantom was a better Spiderman story than this show.
And i frikkin agree the Peter here just feels so flawless, while Danny feels like an awkward teen that anyone can relate to
You're comparing 3 seasons and 53 episodes to 2 episodes...
Not really a hot take feel like Danny Phantom is honestly just Spider man with ghosts. Heck one of his antagonists has a glider like Green Goblin and dressed in a sort of battle armor. Haven’t seen the show myself but dont think it’s fair to judge any show based on like the first two episodes.
And Batman Beyond
@@olddog4090
Or... hear me out... they're just comparing the first 2 episodes from each show and had half a brain to tell a show from 20 years ago was better than this?
@@olddog4090 even by episode 1 the Danny is better than this
8:15, I'm just glad that Peter is being given moments to act heroic in mundane ways like letting this struggling woman off the hook. Moments like these where Peter is "looking out for the little guy" were sorely missing in the MCU, even as it was a major point of Spiderman: Homecoming.
Uncle Ben deserves better than to be written out of both the MCU and this spin-off series.
Race swap Uncle Ben and he won't even die
Uncle Ben barely had a presence in the o.g comic, it was about Peter's agency after losing a loved one (coming to his own conclusions). Subsequent adaptations, like the Rami films, had it so that "the quote" was an idea that was drilled into him by his loved one(s) [and, that he chose to take to heart or not]
This adaptation could do more with Ben down the line, choosing to go more down the latter-route, with Uncle Ben planting the seed to make him into the hero that he chooses to be here
@@IdenNonya It is their motivator and the same thing happens with Batman's parents and the destruction of Krypton. You can't eliminate that, eliminating that is eliminating half of your characters' identity, so make a new one.
He never was written out, especially if he's already dead to begin with.
@@carlossabogal2970 wrong peter would still be a hero without ben. peter character only being tied to ben dying is lame as fuck.
On the topic of the animation/art-style, the art-style isn't the problem for me. It's the animation itself that I'm iffy on. There are moments where it looks nice and fluid with good camera work, and then other times its stiff, rigid, and not good looking at some angles.
For a moment, I wish that spectacular spiderman didn't existed so my expectations wouldn't be so high.
Ultimate comics Peter is how you do teenage Peter, and this is a far-cry from it.
I mostly enjoyed the first 2 episodes but... why are we still doing race and gender swaps? So tired of this stuff...
Is Doc Connors being a black woman really going to do anything for that character? Or is it just diversity for the sake of diversity, therefore forced and unnatural just like everything else in this DEI era?
1:25 "A very young Peter going to an upcale STEM school" actually he wasn't: After it got attacked by the monster he ended up back in Queens.
I hate Hollywood REFUSAL to use or hire actual classic cell animation
Art is fluid. It can be anything it wants. That's why the term "artstyle" exist.
@tkm1875 actually it's because cell animation is unionized, that's why Hollywood refuses to hire 2d animators, the more you know, same reason there are so many British actors in American media, British actors aren't unionized
I didn’t think it could get worse than ultimate spiderman or disneys spiderman but here we go again
I feel like this take on the character is a very exaggerated version of Holland's peter, at least holland had some edge and clearly got angry and broke down a lot
im just wondering how many times we have to watch a series about spiderman in his early days. his later days can be very depressing, we need to see that
@@squishyazalea9970 I'd honestly love to see science teacher Peter actually
I wonder if there is popular depiction of awkward person that is just them being really quiet, like how they mostly just don't know what to say so they decide to stay silent and nod most of them time leading to other character looking at them as if they don't want to be there
Persona 3 protagonist?
Andrew's Peter is ageing better and better
Someone said writers based Peter Parker off of those “Peter Parker being a dork for 5 minutes” videos 😭
I don't get how this Peter still needs his glasses even after he got bitten 🤷🏼♂️
11:30 feels like the pitch to a really interesting Andrew Garfield Spider-man 3. Like, a moderately frustrated spiderman dealing with the struggle to not let himself slip and punch a little too hard like he mentioned in NWH. "All it takes is one bad day" but every day is actually pretty bad and man is it testing peter.
As far as the animation goes. One major way to make it look better is to employ some 2d techniques.
I was just watching arcane and noticed how many 2d style stuff they pull off like smear lines and certain parts being hand drawn
This looks like a sophisticated blender animation rather than the intricate animation masterpiece that arcane pulls off by utilizing their own systems of lighting and knowing how to blend 2d and 3d when necessary
It looks kinda meh.
I never liked any Disney Spider-man.
@@destronia123seriously, are disney trying to be the next avi arad but more worst😤
it is, he's softballing the critique
its another toned down peter with wheedon humor "um awkward" dialogue while sanitizing any edge the show could have, and of course needless swapping characters for token points
I like your analysis of what makes the original Peter Parker work, and what makes him so relatable! I believe his flaws were what made him stand out as a hero at the time. We still need that! 😁
Peter in high school...again.
And yeah, given the vast changes for no apparent reason, it's no surprise Sony decided to not have it be connected to the movies.
Marvel decided that.
This is ALL on Disn-- I mean, Marvel.
I don't think Sony had anything to do with this
The 90s animation series is still number 1
Im glad you made that point about this version of Peter feeling too fallible. All the live action spidey’s have had that edge to them where you know they could chose to go down a darker path, giving into those selfish impulses, but they don’t and that’s what makes them heroic. I wouldn’t complain too much on this, but even spectacular Spider-Man was able to show that side of Peter.
This is currently the only cartoon that my 3 year old loves to watch that doesn’t make me want to jump out a window so I’m good with it
I hope that you keep reviewing this cartoon! It gave me a little bit of nostalgia for your earlier videos.
i just find it crazy how the show FINALLY came out, it was announced over 5 years ago
4:33 if this show runs for years I will be incredibly surprised I will give it at most one year sorry guys come back then yall lmk
Also dr Connor’s being Asian is hilarious I predicted that happening before seeing it
they already got renewed for season 3
Disney fundamentally doesn't understand the character of Peter Parker/Spider-Man.
I hope marvel animation revives the Avengers earth's mightiest heroes show for more seasons with the original creators
That chick has bigger muscles than Spider-Man
I would love to see you do more videos on Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man!
Can they just give us Spiderman 94!? This seems so obvious
As someone who’s recently started a consistent read of the original Steve Ditko and Stan Lee run.
I don’t think we’ve EVER got an accurate interpretation of Peter Parker since Maguire honestly.
Peter being the kinda generic good guy, who’s always in the right and really there’s no reason for him to be bullied, picked on or a loser. He sort of does it to himself? Like he’s not naturally relatable interms of being an every day dude.
He’s much, MUCH more self-defeating and neurotic in those early comics than he almost ever is in other media.
I do think Andrew Garfield is more accurate too.
But saying that, I mostly agree. It would actually be different and interesting to get a more accurate Spider-Man portrayal in adaptations, but so far, we don't really get that a lot.
I also agree that I am getting kind of annoyed with how much people are acting like Spider-Man is an "everyman". Because in a lot of ways he isn't. For the reasons u mentioned, his genius (which gets dumbed down/downplayed in stuff sometimes sadly), some of the family stuff he has going on, etc. But for some reason Spider-Man gets treated as just an "everyman" and I find it kind of bizarre and not really accurate (and gets rid of some of Peter's complexities sometimes) imo.
And like, him not being "everyman" in a lot of ways is fine. Those traits, skills, etc. of his honestly make him way more interesting. But some people get so focused on trying to fit him to be "an everyman" that some of his interesting traits, skills, etc. get ignored and/or downplayed. And it is sad.
Here is to hoping we get more good Spider-Man stuff and Spider-Man portrayals in the future.
I think Andrew was probably the most accurate but probably to the Ultimate Universe
I had to rewind twice-I just didn’t expect this channel to refer to a fictional high school QB as being on his “Andrew Luck grind.” It caught me off guard, and I loved it.
Midnight Suns mentioned! Hell yeah.
Thats what made the symbiotic saga so special the fact it made him cave in to those intrusive thoughts and he was really a darker version of himself
I really would like Spiderman to be an adult again in animated series. Have him be spider-man but also have him be a grown man doing adult things... Because we're all tired of him being a kid
I feel like a perfect Spider-Man show would start when he’s a senior in high school about to graduate and end when he’s in his late 20s or early 30s, married with mj and has a kid.
Yeah, agreed, it’s getting tiring now.
That’s why I love insomniac’s take on Peter, that’s new and done well, even the suit design itself is awesome
@@8bitmackand that already happened in Spider-Girl comic and the ongoing Spider-Man comic by Jonathan Hickman
@@8bitmackLike the Spider-Man TAS
I love your videos! Please review this whole series!!
Honestly this is the problem with nerd culture we don’t give shows room to grow like we use to .
Not just nerd culture but the studios themselves
The true is, most shows only find their foot at season 2. We dont realise that, because when we watched tv, random episodes were showed. And most of the time was when the show already found its footing
not really, like this show has no room to grow cause its foundation is flawed, just skin walking a better art style and writer while changing everything in it
Shows and movies i think nerds tend to make up their minds about even just based on things behind the scenes or changes they don't deem necessary
“She has a crush on the same girl as him” oh great some more of this stuff
I really enjoyed this show. I would like to see more coverage from you.
At the beginning you seem to think Peter is going to the super school midtown high but from the doctor strange fight the school was shut down and he was forced to go to a more athletic based school hence all the football talk in the second episode.
I consider not having Uncle Ben as the reason for Peter's heavily set values as dumb.
This show is quite racist too, as they refuse to give most characters their original skin colors.
Any Spider-Man cartoon to ever come outta Disney is making me miss the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon and even the 90s Spider-Man cartoon even more. That’s how fucking generic, dull, and boring these Disney Spider-Man cartoons are. 🤦🏾♂️
FACTS😭. It’s so basic I really don’t get the appeal.
Yet they still continue and the suffer is still strong just like how Avi Arad did with the live action😡 when will this suffer end, it’s been 18 years since Spider-Man 3 fumbled dammit
@@nadimls3672I don’t think Spider-Man 3 (2007) is bad tbh. Flawed? Absolutely. But bad? Far from it.
All the characters look like fake people that are trying way to hard to capture teenagers vibes and it’s weird.
Pls cover all the season
The animation feels like a telltale game
This show just made me miss Josh Keaton and Andrew Garfield more. I like Holland and Lowenthal among other portrayals. But those two actors remind me the most of comic book Peter. Even though the asm movies aren’t exactly great. And spectacular was a great show.
This UA-cam channel should be named Captain negativity
Aw come on, this was pretty positive 🥺
@captainmidnight positive ISH
the animation looks like a cutscene from the ultimate spiderman video game
Which works good for a video game cutscene but not as well for a tv show
@@8bitmack It works perfectly fine. Y'all are so egotistical. Art is not monolithic.
Lies.
@@tkm1875 the art style is fine but the animation would’ve benefited if they animated it 2d
What you describe about peters character is exactly why I think andrews is the best. He gets mad, he practically beats up flash out of spite, he’s an ass to aunt may, yet he’s a very clear and great man and hero when he chooses to be. Tobey only really had that during his venom arc and maaaybe his flash fight, but that was really just self defense. This is something Tom hasn’t covered at all and it’s what really stands out to me from andrews take on the character. He feels like an emotional teen who just got his uncle killed in a way nobody else does, with his vengeance, his anger, his selfishness, and yet by the end he’s still a good man.
I am sick and tired of spider man being set in high school! Can we do something else?
Exactly, I would rather if this show was him as a freshman in college that just started working at the Daily Bugle.
Dude, they didn't make Peter go to a specialized school, because that school was destroyed. He's going to a normal high school right now.
Just a note on the school topic. It’s a blink and you’ll miss it, but he “flunked out” of midtown high. It took his science partner saying the name of the school he was playing football at to make me look twice, but he literally says he didn’t make it in midtown high in the conversation with Norman Osborn.
One of the smartest characters in Marvel flunked out?
God, I am getting sick of of media dumbing down Peter. He is a genius, man.
Hopefully he flunked out, because he had too much responsibilities elsewhere, and not because he wasn't smart enough or good enough to cut it at that school.
He didn't flunk out. He got kicked out when the school was damaged after the Dr strange fight
@@p.j.kussin5284I understood it more like everyone was transferred out not kicked out because of the damage. Essentially the school closed up to repair the damages so no one could attenrd
Peter Parker gets nerfed more than any other comic book character. If they aren't making him dumber, they're making him cringe or weaker. I swear marvel doesn't understand the character anymore besides the writers of the new ultimate spiderman.
@@p.j.kussin5284 yeah, I couldn’t remember if they actually said flunked or not so I put it in air quotes. Just what I do remember of the conversation since it was only a once through made it seem like that.
To the point of wanting to see Peter be his "worst self" and wanting to give in to more selfish impulses to then learn and grow from such mistakes, (1) we're only 2 episodes in. Let them cook. And more importantly, (2) often with people, including Peter, we fall into that trap of giving in to selfish impulses when the stress of life really takes root, when doing the "right" thing is rewarded with just more stress. When Peter hits that low point, that's when he'll fall into that trap as a way to cope/unburden himself, and that will be a major teachable moment when the consequences of such selfishness comes to fruition, even though there isn't any malice behind such "self-care."
A staple to almost every version of Spider-Man is the constant juggling of life's responsibilities and stresses that Peter often struggles to manage. That's what makes him so relatable. Yes, "adorkable" personalities are getting to be overdone in media, but I think as stress begins to mount, that adorkable sheen will give way to burnout, and when he eventually rises above that burnout, a renewed sense of self and confidence will smooth out the more abrasive sides to the adorkable personality. But neither do we want Peter to be completely rid of that dorkiness. He is a high school freshman after all. That's the time in one's life when guys are the biggest dorks fumbling through life. He has nowhere near the maturity to be less than that, no guy does at that age. If he was still behaving this way as an adult, then that would be a major problem with the writing.
I just REALLY can't vibe with how the show looks, if you really want to go with a comic book art style then please just do it in 2d. Maybe it's just that the backgrounds don't look detailed enough or the fact that they have little to zero animation going on in said background but it just feels like the characters are cut-outs on a string being dangled around a panto backdrop, like you can FEEL the separation of character from the actual scene and it doesn't feel good imo.
The animation looks like that game hi-fi rush
Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man is NOT. GOOD. Hard pass on this show. Terrible writing.
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> The most compelling aspect of Peter Parker is that he has those options open to him, always - yet makes the choice to be better than that, even as it makes his life harder every single day.
imo this was the thesis behind Man of Steel's Superman, one that Jon Kent teaches - he is in no way obligated to save humanity - and yet he makes the choice to do so. I think that it does make his character more compelling. Audiences didn't like it tho
I think I’m just over teen Spidey. I grew up reading about an adult version of Peter
Yeah, I think I’ve finally out grown this. Looking at all the comments by full grown adults really makes me feel like this is a mentally stunted generation.
No, is the Tom Holland fanboys who are mentally stunted.
Modern media doesn't let protagonist, or any good guy, be an asshole for a bit. Some of the all time BEST stories/characters let the main lead actually be mean, troubled or even unabashedly selfish at times. Sometimes doing actual bad things because they want to. You can't let characters grow if they are "flawless" to begin with.
That's one gripe I kinda had with him. He was too boy-next-door. The best thing about Peter is him learning to do better you know? Buy it's just two episodes we'll see what they have in store for us
I think something worse is that this peter isn't even motivated to be spiderman from uncle ben's death. He only became spiderman because he was a nice guy. It really showed with the whole him leaving the internship to stop the fire where it felt like there wasn't an obligation for him to do it which made it feel kinda dumb.
This show was just trash.It's sad to see the character of Spiderman just keeps getting bastardized,whether in the comics,movies,shows and games.I call this the "Terrible MCU Spider-boy" effect.
I think it all started fron Ultimate series by Disney XD
Wow finally a take that makes sense. I don't see the Ditko inspiration either, and Peter *is* my biggest issue with the show so far.
well ,the 3d animation is terrible .
And I dont like those obligatory "changes" for modern audience .
Of course , I can change my mind if they make Black Phanter a blonde white guy on the next show ....
4:16 “it’s easy to assume he’s going to be the bully” bruh. His character was OBVIOUS given the current circumstances. Him being given tombstone’s name was just like “who tf is this”. Spectacular Spiderman already had a black really cool figure that never looked down upon Parker
how much did they pay you for that thumbnail?
"almost great" yeah only one small problem - IT EXISTS