Just got mine yesterday. Ordered in December, was supposed to be here late February. Overall I'm thrilled to get it this early. Rode it once. I was looking for bumps 😊, can barely feel them. I have lower back problems and this bike is awesome.
Chris, your videos are always very good. I believe that you are one of a very few people who are teaching the public about eBikes. Yes, it’s your livelihood, but you are honest and share what you have learned. If I lived in Southern California or New York City, I would have bought my bike at your shop. Keep up the great work.
I’m a fan of the Homage. For commuting in any weather, the HS version with the eRohloff set up can handle pretty much anything you throw at it and is maintenance free. This is how you turn a 1hour and 10 minute commute by public transport into 45 minutes.
You know one feature I'd love to see on a R&M (or any bike for that matter) is the ability to raise and lower the handlebars either electronically or in a similar fashion to the seat dropper post. Sometimes you want the bar higher to reduce fatigue on long trips and other times you want a more aerodynamic stance to make the best of slopes. Just a thought that I hope comes true.
Ooops…I hit the wrong button…OK…I’m a “Bike Guy” meaning I’m really into the design and technical features of bicycles as well as the ride experience. I’m 72 years old. I’ve had 3 back operations in the last 10 years which resulted in my no longer being able to ride a traditional road bike. So about two years ago I took delivery on a R&M NEVO which brought back the joy of cycling. In late 2020 I was diagnosed with Parkinson’s Disease so riding a bicycle the way I want to ride has become a bit more of a challenge and yet riding a bicycle has been clinically proven to be one of the best things that helps slow the progression of this disease. So riding has taken on a whole new meaning for me. I’ve studied and researched countless full suspension ebikes that can be set up with a dropper seat post and nothing even comes close to the R&M Homage. In my opinion no matter what type, category or brand of bike that’s out there, nothing can come close to the Homage. I’ll be ordering one very shortly and hopefully the current chaos in the industry won’t mess things up too bad for an early 2021 delivery.
Full suspension commuters make a lot of sense in Europe because of the C-o-o-o-b-b-b-b-l-e-s-t-o-o-o-o-n-e. But even regardless of the road surface it's still super handy to be able to hop down curbs without worrying about being thrown all over the place especially when you're loaded up with groceries or have a child seat on the back.
This bike actually represents my ideal bike, it has all that I search in a bicycle. I personally own a previous generation and I would be very curious to try this one and check the difference. Thanks for nice review Chris. Have a great weekend.
Thanks Mark! Much appreciated! Things are definitely coming along! Lots of progress over the past nearly two years. We do get inspired by your work as well! 😉
@@Propelbikes I'm just sitting down to edit a video I directed and shot for Brompton. I very technical /art piece, I'm looking forward to getting it out in the world. Hopefully it comes out good. Best Regards
@@Propelbikes Maybe a collaboration with you two, but I tell ya, Tara is the industry leader. It's so great and important. I hope to have a lunch with you two some day ahead.
I love the review. I have the super charger 2. Which I love. I think I would like this one even better. The ease of the step through is my goal. Thank you so much Chris. Now I have a new bike that I will dream about until I get it. Wonderful review.
When we Germans watch a american channel for infos about a german bike, you know you are doing good work.💪🏻 True, Propel is, with Citrus bikes, the best Channel about Riese& Müller. Also, interesting how american ppl seem not to complain about the price like Germans do. In Germany you can work hard and earn a lot, but it’s socially not much accepted to show it. At least not with bikes. That’s why I ordered a mouse grey Supercharger instead of the nice curry one. Don’t want to appear like showing off🤦🏼♀️ A friendly hello from Stuttgart. Yes, you’re guessed it, the home of Bosch.
I just got an email from R&M saying they have finished mine. Still not at the dealer. Looking forward to riding it. Thanks for all the information. Bought it in white 1 battery Rolloff dropper saddle front rack and upgraded display.
@@GPZ611 Bosch has a great range calculator on line. Just google it. A lot depends on what mode you use stop and go in traffic hills speed. But you should be able to get over 60 miles on a charge.
Hi Chris, another great video! Your video's helped me a lot when my partner and I where looking at what ebikes to get. In the end she went for the R&M The Swing3 and I got the Charger 3 GT vario. We picked them up a few weeks ago and couldn't be happier. All the best and take care from Sarah and Phil in the UK.
Is it a lifetime investment if the motors and such keep changing? Won’t that make replacement parts for the motor, electrical system and battery hard or impossible to by in 10 years effectively making a 7-12k bike unridable?
Got mine a few weeks ago from your shop. Bike is great, real solid and fun to ride. Enjoyed watching the video and your review of the bike. Had to wait a while for delivery from R&M, but your staff was great.
I ordered this bike in October. STIIIILLLL waiting for it!! So excited about the bike after watching your video. You do such a great job of explaining all the features. My only regret is not buying the bike from Propel!!!!!!
Aww! Hopefully you will be seeing it soon now that most of their early production kinks have been worked out. We wish you many happy miles on your new ride!
Mine is currently sleeping in my garage (it's night in France and curfew is on) But it must be sent back to Germany in order to correct a problem with... bottle cage fixation on diagonal tube. I have already made a small tour in hilly country around Toulouse. I am totally amazed by performance of new Bosch motor, compared to previous CX version (on my Packster), and by bike handling which reamins very easy, despite additional weight of second battery. Nyon is very pleasant and intuitive to use. Ordrered front rack and associated bag are still missing.
I’ve been riding bikes for around 65 years. There are very few things that I’ve not done on a bicycle. I’m a roadie and a “Bike Guy”, meaning I’m really into the design and
Like always good vlog. Relaxt and with a laugh a bit. I like a non speed version and the Rohloff. But everything you want you can get on these super bicycles.
@@Propelbikes No understand all the front suspension, on 99 % of the bicycles and nothing in the back. Like a car without rear suspension. I would be perfectly happy with no suspension at all by the way, but if you go trew a big bumb, it would be nice that both your wheeles can handle it. But most bicycles do not offer that, kind of no thinking. I am not happy with my front suspension for that reason, give me no suspension at all. I still love my bicycle, but yes, it is not good thinking.
Great review thank you! I'm interested in the Rolloff button operation instead of the twist shifter, which hurts my old hands after a while. Is the button shift easy to operate or do you have to push them quite hard to change gear?
I have a Specialized Vado with auto shifting that has no shifter buttons. I believe those buttons would only occasionally be needed for instance if you encountered a really steep hill and had the Rolhof controller set not to down shift to a low enough gear thus you wouldn't be using them much. Auto shifting is the best.
This is a good grandpa bike. This like Toyota Avalon or Mercedes S, or rolls Royce class of bikes. I wish Riese and Muller made folding city bikes like they once did, because they have good quality.
Why is there no throttle? Please help me understand the reasoning behind this. Gazelle doesn't have one either. I would think it would be nice to fall back on after a long ride when your legs give out.
Nice review Chris. I think you should talk a bit more about the shifting experience on these bikes. I had a belt drive bike with twist shifter and it was kind of awful. That is not an easy motion for the wrist to be doing all the time. I tried the automatic shifting on a Specialized bike with an Enviolo hub and couldn't believe how fun it was. Not sure I would get another bike without it. Also I would like to know how easy it is to use the electronic shifter buttons on the R&M and when you would even need them with an auto shifting bike ? My Vado with the auto has no additional shifting buttons and I don't find a need for them. Thanks
Couple of things missing are how many amps is the charger provided and what if any integrated theft protection is provided. My Stromer ST2 is one of the few with great theft protection. You pay a lot of money for these bikes. Nice to have an App that you can communicate with your bike to check the charge and wear it is located. Hopefully all high end bikes do this going forward. The Homeage looks like a fantastic bike though.
The Homage has to be the most beautiful bike in the entire R&M range? Now with the new dual battery, and latest Bosch HS motor, it is pure poetry in motion. Can u get me one to South Africa?
WoW the bike looks neat and what an in-depth review! Is the new R&M front carrier bag available and how easy for me to get a spare Gates Carbon Drive Belt, just in case?
I want one Chris. All I need is for a dealer to offer me a trade in on my 2019 Rholoff Supercharger! It seems I’m relegated to Craigslist which is hardly suited to high end eBike sales.
I’m hopeful that the new battery technology (lithium sulfur?) will be there for a cheaper, more powerful option and justify my saving the dual battery cost up front (when I want to do the LEJOG or European Grand Tour!). I saw that Bosch is working on this. Am I being unrealistic?
After nearly 3 months (and 2 transports between France and Germany...) I have my Homage back ! Front carrier and bag have been installed (for the time being, I am not fond of this front bag because it is not practical at all to close it). Now I need to shorten a bit the handlebar (which is more than 70 cm wide, that is far too wide for my tastes, and my shoulders and arms). Looking to the fork, I have been surprised to discover that this Suntour Aion is for 29' wheel, according to stickers on it, and not for 27.5. Second surprise comes from R&M site: according to new specifications, a Marzocchi fork (Marzocchi Bomber Z2, Air, tapered, 100mm) should be installed at front of the Homage, instead of the Suntour Aion. Do you know why this change occurs ? Edit: I have checked some other R&M bikes'specifications: other bikes (Delite, Superdelite, Supercharger) use also Mazorchi forks, instead of Suntour.
Hi Chris, quick question. What is the lifespan in the Bosch motor? How long do they plan on stocking these particular motors and parts for them? Where my question is coming from us the integration of the motor with the frame. It seems to me if they are already in generation 4, and the shape changed each generation, then the lifespan of this very expensive bike will be limited?
There is a minimum commitment to support the system for 7 years after production stops, but the reality is Bosch won’t stand in anyone’s way if they stop offering this. Think of the way the automotive market works. Service kits already exist for older systems that need it and backwards compatibility is baked into the Bosch model.
Great review, as always! Thanks a lot. But I think you're wrong at 19:06 where you say that it's not possible to charge a phone with the Nyon display. According to the manual it does have a USB port that can charge most smartphones.
I've never tested this but on page 18 of this manual it says that you can charge devices with the USB port: www.bosch-ebike.com/fileadmin/EBC/Service/Downloads/Bedienungsanleitungen/MY2017/Nyon_Online/Bosch-eBike-Nyon-User-Manual-2017-EN.pdf?_=1487058902 Maybe that's really something they unlocked with a software update. Might also depend on the phone.
Chris, I have a few questions i hope you can assist with. 1. i am looking to purchase a r&m homage gt rohloff twin battery is it better to wait until 2022 for new model or will it be the same as 21, given it takes 2-3months to arrive in australia if we ordered today, so is there any benefit to wait. 2. can you please advise best frame size i am 186cm is 54 or 58 better? 3.if bike was dropped or in a minor accident are parts avaiable off the shelf or is the wait time considerable where bike would be off the road. thank you for great presentation and i look forward to your response. regards, Joy.
@@Propelbikes I don't have an ebike yet. I've been shopping for my first, while waiting for my tax refund to hit my bank! lol There are a lot of factors, money is just one of them. I live in an apartment in Brooklyn, so the size of the bikes comes into play too, because of the elevator! Security is another issue for parking outside at work. Oh brother!! lol Great R&M review though, and a beautiful bike!
@@frotobaggins7169 I checked him out and it looks like he installed a Bafang motor onto a bicycle. That's cool, but definitely NOT what I'm doing!! LOL I'm looking to purchase an ebike. But thanks for the thought! I appreciate it!
@@musicmann1967 it's an economical alternitive. and it's fast. lol it's not an ebike in that he has to peddle, i think it just goes with the twist of the throttle.
Hello Propel. I just received my 2021 Homage. I ordered the 49cm size. The one I got seems bigger than 49cm. I looked and cannot see on the frame a sticker or inscribing showing the frame size, do you know where they show it? Appreciate your videos also.
Hi Chris. Thanks for this excellent review. I really like the look of this bike and want to buy one. Can I ask a question about the dropper seat please? Does it adjust to a specific height so that it fits the rider correctly and goes back up to that exact height each time? I am not sure how the height adjustability works with a dropper seat. Appreciate all the detail you go into in all of your reviews. Rob
Thanks! Glad you like it. The idea is that you adjust the optimal height to the fully extended seatpost length. So when you drop down are you going to go as low as you can go I wanna go back up it’ll get you exactly where you need to be
There are two parts to the seat post tube, a fixed part at the base which you can adjust up and down to your height like a normal seat post, then an upper part which you can raise and lower to any position between the top and bottom stops (over maybe 7 inches range). First set the bottom part to your height with full extension on the top part. The bike shop should do this when you collect. When your weight is on the seat and you push the lever, the seat will drop all the way to the bottom stop. Then stand up on the pedals, hit the lever and the seat will rise up until it meets your butt or the top stop. So it's kind of self adjusting. Or you can crouch lower and it will stop lower when it hits your butt. Its adjustable to anywhere in that 7 inch range. My son is shorter than me and it's really nice to adjust it quickly to his leg length when he wants to ride it. He pushes it down with his forearm, gets on, stands up on the pedals at full leg extension and the seat raises to meet his butt and stops. Let go of the lever and its locked off at the perfect height for him. Super gadget.
@@ecoworrier Thanks. Ive not had a dropper seat before so I was curious how it worked - if the seat was adjustable like suspension forks. Makes sense the way you describe it.
FIRST‼️ My World Champion medal awaits. When I've actually watched the video, I will comment further‼️ O.K., Chris, I've watched your video, and, straightaway, I must say I like the increase in levity and naturalness - with every new video you look less and less like a rabbit caught in the headlights - and I really, really like the increased participation of the absolutely charming young lady associate. I'm referring, of course, to the lady who, previously, patiently and painstakingly explained acronym to you. Your appraisal of the Homage is, as we have come to expect, nonpareil. Your combination of hard facts, personal opinion, and real-world experience, delivers a comprehensive review that I've never seen equalled, let alone bettered. The bike itself is an absolute world beater, and has replaced the Superdelite as my bike of choice. Once the world has returned to, for want of a better word, normal, I'll be out there shopping. Anyway, apart from a quick mention of your ungodly early morning filming, and your horizontal leg hair, I'll bid you a fond farewell. Au revoir.
🏆🏆🏆😉Lmao!!! I can always count on you to warm my heart and put a smile on my face. I look forward to the day that we can share a coffee. It does feel nice how things are coming along and it feels great to be able to continue to employee people during this time and I’m super grateful for all the amazing people I get to work with.
@@Propelbikes Share a coffee⁉️ Bloody hell, how expensive is a coffee in Long Beach⁉️ Can't we afford a cup each❓Anyway, what's wrong with a beer❓ The employer/employee relationship is a two way street. Your workforce is a happy, motivated bunch, who go the extra yard to ensure your business is successful. And you, in turn, look after them when times are not so rosey. That's the way it should be, and that's the way you operate, and I greatly admire your values. Anyway, I'd better get down off my soapbox before I get splinters in my feet‼️👍👍👍
Lol! I will buy you one, or even a beer if you’d like. Possibly even a meal. I don’t drink alcohol, but you’re welcome to indulge. It would be great if you come to LB, but I am definitely planning on making my way to the UK. Hope you have a nice weekend!
Hello, I am looking to buy a Riese and Muller e-bike very soon after a lot of research in to different models and brands and i came across a video on youtube regarding a failed / broken charging port on a 2021 Riese and muller Nevo 3 down tube and wondered if you have ever come across the same fault or maybe just a one off hopefully at that price point Thankyou
Be honest: Does a 350 lb. Clydesdale rider have any business riding a full suspension bike like this? Wouldn't I just bottom it out constantly? Trying to weight the benefits and added cost against knowing that those wide tires, plus a Thudbuster and my own padded backside might provide adequate ride cushioning. TIA
350lbs is beyond the recommended weight and you would likely bottom out the suspension. I think a hardtail with wide tires and a suspension post is a better way to go. The Kinect XXL is a great post as well.
The new front rack bag looks to be out. I see first pics on the RM site on the configurator. More details would be great though. I have Ortlieb rear panniers on my superdelite and am very happy with them. There is a horizontal pack which connects over the top of them too which is cool. But I'm still waiting on the front pack specs.
They are made in Europe for the most part, but that’s not what makes them the best IMO. They are reliable, the power predictable, they are well supported and the overall experience using them is very high. Oh and they are the safest available due to extensive testing.
I like that homage has 1250wh vs the 1125wh on superdelite and I really like the blue. I just don't like the aesthetic of that straight bar in back, it looks odd to me. I'm not a girl, I don't wear dresses and I'm not 70 years old, so a step through is not for me. Too bad the superdelite doesn't have 1250wh. I'm sure that's not going to affect the range too much anyway.
It could be possible, but it will be a big challenge. You won’t be able to accommodate the belt and you will need to reprogram the motor to use the electronic e-14 which Bianchi likely won’t allow
Thanks for watching! :)
To learn more about the Riese and Muller Homage, check out the link in the description!
Just got mine yesterday. Ordered in December, was supposed to be here late February. Overall I'm thrilled to get it this early. Rode it once. I was looking for bumps 😊, can barely feel them. I have lower back problems and this bike is awesome.
Chris, your videos are always very good. I believe that you are one of a very few people who are teaching the public about eBikes. Yes, it’s your livelihood, but you are honest and share what you have learned. If I lived in Southern California or New York City, I would have bought my bike at your shop. Keep up the great work.
I’m a fan of the Homage. For commuting in any weather, the HS version with the eRohloff set up can handle pretty much anything you throw at it and is maintenance free. This is how you turn a 1hour and 10 minute commute by public transport into 45 minutes.
You know one feature I'd love to see on a R&M (or any bike for that matter) is the ability to raise and lower the handlebars either electronically or in a similar fashion to the seat dropper post. Sometimes you want the bar higher to reduce fatigue on long trips and other times you want a more aerodynamic stance to make the best of slopes. Just a thought that I hope comes true.
me too, that's the only reason why I'm struggling :( and maybe the price :D
Ooops…I hit the wrong button…OK…I’m a “Bike Guy” meaning I’m really into the design and technical features of bicycles as well as the ride experience. I’m 72 years old. I’ve had 3 back operations in the last 10 years which resulted in my no longer being able to ride a traditional road bike. So about two years ago I took delivery on a R&M NEVO which brought back the joy of cycling. In late 2020 I was diagnosed with Parkinson’s Disease so riding a bicycle the way I want to ride has become a bit more of a challenge and yet riding a bicycle has been clinically proven to be one of the best things that helps slow the progression of this disease. So riding has taken on a whole new meaning for me. I’ve studied and researched countless full suspension ebikes that can be set up with a dropper seat post and nothing even comes close to the R&M Homage. In my opinion no matter what type, category or brand of bike that’s out there, nothing can come close to the Homage. I’ll be ordering one very shortly and hopefully the current chaos in the industry won’t mess things up too bad for an early 2021 delivery.
Many thanks from Germany for this highly informative review 😊 I ordered my "Super" Rohloff - Homage and can't wait for the first ride.
Full suspension commuters make a lot of sense in Europe because of the C-o-o-o-b-b-b-b-l-e-s-t-o-o-o-o-n-e. But even regardless of the road surface it's still super handy to be able to hop down curbs without worrying about being thrown all over the place especially when you're loaded up with groceries or have a child seat on the back.
This bike actually represents my ideal bike, it has all that I search in a bicycle. I personally own a previous generation and I would be very curious to try this one and check the difference. Thanks for nice review Chris. Have a great weekend.
Awesome! Hope you have a nice weekend!
I have to agree. This bike is sexy. I def want the top of the top version.
I loved seeing some of the camera crew in this review. Your videos are awesome!
Going to work on integrating them more! Glad you like them!
That’s a really nice setup. Great video too!
$8000 - $12,000, so not cheap.
Great work Chris and Tara - Fantastic. The shots look amazing. Really clean. And great presenting.
Thanks Mark! Much appreciated! Things are definitely coming along! Lots of progress over the past nearly two years. We do get inspired by your work as well! 😉
@@Propelbikes I'm just sitting down to edit a video I directed and shot for Brompton. I very technical /art piece, I'm looking forward to getting it out in the world. Hopefully it comes out good. Best Regards
Super cool! Looking forward to checking it out! Hopefully we have an opportunity to work together one day
@@Propelbikes Maybe a collaboration with you two, but I tell ya, Tara is the industry leader. It's so great and important. I hope to have a lunch with you two some day ahead.
She is pretty awesome! I’d love to have lunch. Lmk if you’re in NY or LA ever and I’ll let you know if I’m in SF
I love the review. I have the super charger 2. Which I love. I think I would like this one even better. The ease of the step through is my goal. Thank you so much Chris. Now I have a new bike that I will dream about until I get it. Wonderful review.
Great bike. Your videos are by far the best about Riese & Müller e-bikes. Greetings from Germany!
When we Germans watch a american channel for infos about a german bike, you know you are doing good work.💪🏻
True, Propel is, with Citrus bikes, the best Channel about Riese& Müller.
Also, interesting how american ppl seem not to complain about the price like Germans do.
In Germany you can work hard and earn a lot, but it’s socially not much accepted to show it.
At least not with bikes. That’s why I ordered a mouse grey Supercharger instead of the nice curry one.
Don’t want to appear like showing off🤦🏼♀️
A friendly hello from Stuttgart. Yes, you’re guessed it, the home of Bosch.
as so often a really well done review
Much appreciated Andrew!
Lolol That intro was perfect 😂
I have be awaiting this review from propel. So happy. My wife’s next bike. If it can be sized for one 4’10.
You should definitely come into the shop to try one. You should have her try this and a 43cm Nevo
Could a 43 cm Nevo and 51 cm Super Delite fit in the back of a Toyota minivan?
I just got an email from R&M saying they have finished mine. Still not at the dealer. Looking forward to riding it. Thanks for all the information. Bought it in white 1 battery Rolloff dropper saddle front rack and upgraded display.
Super cool!!! Enjoy!
hopefully it's not in a container in the Suez canal.
@@frotobaggins7169 🥴no. It will go by land. Not very far
@@GPZ611 Bosch has a great range calculator on line. Just google it. A lot depends on what mode you use stop and go in traffic hills speed. But you should be able to get over 60 miles on a charge.
Cooool thinking of getting one. I need PHD to get one.( Parent Has Dough)
Hi Chris, another great video! Your video's helped me a lot when my partner and I where looking at what ebikes to get. In the end she went for the R&M The Swing3 and I got the Charger 3 GT vario. We picked them up a few weeks ago and couldn't be happier. All the best and take care from Sarah and Phil in the UK.
Much appreciated! Fun fact, Tara our videography is a very big fan of that Swing3. Unfortunately it didn’t make its way to the US though.
Brilliant bike. Who wants cheap this bike is a lifetime investment. Brilliant .
We agree Andrew, we should think more long term right?
Is it a lifetime investment if the motors and such keep changing? Won’t that make replacement parts for the motor, electrical system and battery hard or impossible to by in 10 years effectively making a 7-12k bike unridable?
This is one of the key reasons we work with Bosch. They have a longterm support plan and they stick to it. It’s a really big deal as you mention.
The tech on this bike makes me think this is more motorbike quality type of bicycle and it seems really reliable and comfortable for long term use!
It’s really quite awesome!
sadly it out prices even motorcycles.
@@frotobaggins7169 Yes, but how many oranges could you buy with the same money? How many grains of rice?
German made so its really reliable.
@@frotobaggins7169 motorcycle can't go every terrain
Got mine a few weeks ago from your shop. Bike is great, real solid and fun to ride. Enjoyed watching the video and your review of the bike. Had to wait a while for delivery from R&M, but your staff was great.
I have the duel battery one on order , thanks for the great review, can't wait to get mine
Awesome!!!
I ordered this bike in October. STIIIILLLL waiting for it!! So excited about the bike after watching your video. You do such a great job of explaining all the features. My only regret is not buying the bike from Propel!!!!!!
Aww! Hopefully you will be seeing it soon now that most of their early production kinks have been worked out. We wish you many happy miles on your new ride!
Mine is currently sleeping in my garage (it's night in France and curfew is on) But it must be sent back to Germany in order to correct a problem with... bottle cage fixation on diagonal tube.
I have already made a small tour in hilly country around Toulouse. I am totally amazed by performance of new Bosch motor, compared to previous CX version (on my Packster), and by bike handling which reamins very easy, despite additional weight of second battery. Nyon is very pleasant and intuitive to use.
Ordrered front rack and associated bag are still missing.
I hope you get your bike soon! Enjoy!
I’ve been riding bikes for around 65 years. There are very few things that I’ve not done on a bicycle. I’m a roadie and a “Bike Guy”, meaning I’m really into the design and
0:01 Chris gets his New York on! lol
Great vid, thanks!
I love the look of this bike. It's so sporty!
Yes Chris 👍👌 more coming content like this and as much detail as possible cheers my brother from another mother😎😎😎
Great video Chris, thanks.
Super cool head light
Cool bike, nice video Chris.
Thanks Gary! I hope you’re doing well and you have a nice weekend!
Thank you very much indeed! Very helpful. I will buy this super bike now!
Best Video you have ever done ...and I have seen most all of them
I will be in tomorrow for a test ride (Long Beach)and tell you why
You’re too kind! I wish I would be there to meet you Mark! I’m in BK at the moment though. I’m sure my team will take good care of you!
Solid review. Just got a Radrover but this ebike tech is on another level in IMO and the aesthetics.
But any info on that hat 🧢 and jacket ?
Like always good vlog. Relaxt and with a laugh a bit. I like a non speed version and the Rohloff. But everything you want you can get on these super bicycles.
Thanks Leo! I’m learning :)
@@Propelbikes No understand all the front suspension, on 99 % of the bicycles and nothing in the back. Like a car without rear suspension. I would be perfectly happy with no suspension at all by the way, but if you go trew a big bumb, it would be nice that both your wheeles can handle it. But most bicycles do not offer that, kind of no thinking. I am not happy with my front suspension for that reason, give me no suspension at all. I still love my bicycle, but yes, it is not good thinking.
Hi there, can anyone tell me how high is the step through level?
Can't wait to get our super Homage in a few weeks. We are planning a trip to Zion and the UT area for our first ride.
Great review thank you! I'm interested in the Rolloff button operation instead of the twist shifter, which hurts my old hands after a while. Is the button shift easy to operate or do you have to push them quite hard to change gear?
I have a Specialized Vado with auto shifting that has no shifter buttons. I believe those buttons would only occasionally be needed for instance if you encountered a really steep hill and had the Rolhof controller set not to down shift to a low enough gear thus you wouldn't be using them much. Auto shifting is the best.
This is a good grandpa bike. This like Toyota Avalon or Mercedes S, or rolls Royce class of bikes. I wish Riese and Muller made folding city bikes like they once did, because they have good quality.
NICE ! Very thorough explanation .
Great video thanks for all details ! ONE question: how much peddling power you loose ? Cause it looks bouncy when you peddle ...
Why is there no throttle? Please help me understand the reasoning behind this. Gazelle doesn't have one either. I would think it would be nice to fall back on after a long ride when your legs give out.
Nice review Chris. I think you should talk a bit more about the shifting experience on these bikes. I had a belt drive bike with twist shifter and it was kind of awful. That is not an easy motion for the wrist to be doing all the time. I tried the automatic shifting on a Specialized bike with an Enviolo hub and couldn't believe how fun it was. Not sure I would get another bike without it. Also I would like to know how easy it is to use the electronic shifter buttons on the R&M and when you would even need them with an auto shifting bike ? My Vado with the auto has no additional shifting buttons and I don't find a need for them. Thanks
Couple of things missing are how many amps is the charger provided and what if any integrated theft protection is provided. My Stromer ST2 is one of the few with great theft protection. You pay a lot of money for these bikes. Nice to have an App that you can communicate with your bike to check the charge and wear it is located. Hopefully all high end bikes do this going forward. The Homeage looks like a fantastic bike though.
great review Chris
The Homage has to be the most beautiful bike in the entire R&M range? Now with the new dual battery, and latest Bosch HS motor, it is pure poetry in motion. Can u get me one to South Africa?
It sure is awesome! Shoot us an email and we can see what the possibilities are hello@propelbikes.com
okay okay - take my money already!
WoW the bike looks neat and what an in-depth review! Is the new R&M front carrier bag available and how easy for me to get a spare Gates Carbon Drive Belt, just in case?
I want one Chris. All I need is for a dealer to offer me a trade in on my 2019 Rholoff Supercharger! It seems I’m relegated to Craigslist which is hardly suited to high end eBike sales.
can you use facebook marketplace?
Wow!!!!
Thanks for the video. My question is does it come with bottle cage mount/s?
It comes with mounts on the down tube and mounts on either side of the head tube.
I’m hopeful that the new battery technology (lithium sulfur?) will be there for a cheaper, more powerful option and justify my saving the dual battery cost up front (when I want to do the LEJOG or European Grand Tour!). I saw that Bosch is working on this. Am I being unrealistic?
can I ask what is this new battery technology ?
My favorite e-bike 🔥
Nice looking: mid-drive motor, belt, IGH, full suspension, rack. BTW, what brand is your jacket?
A brilliant review of an amazing bike. Many thanks for your really detailed review.
After nearly 3 months (and 2 transports between France and Germany...) I have my Homage back !
Front carrier and bag have been installed (for the time being, I am not fond of this front bag because it is not practical at all to close it).
Now I need to shorten a bit the handlebar (which is more than 70 cm wide, that is far too wide for my tastes, and my shoulders and arms).
Looking to the fork, I have been surprised to discover that this Suntour Aion is for 29' wheel, according to stickers on it, and not for 27.5.
Second surprise comes from R&M site: according to new specifications, a Marzocchi fork (Marzocchi Bomber Z2, Air, tapered, 100mm) should be installed at front of the Homage, instead of the Suntour Aion.
Do you know why this change occurs ?
Edit: I have checked some other R&M bikes'specifications: other bikes (Delite, Superdelite, Supercharger) use also Mazorchi forks, instead of Suntour.
Chris....very well done as always. Very cool bike.
Much appreciated!
Hi Chris, quick question.
What is the lifespan in the Bosch motor?
How long do they plan on stocking these particular motors and parts for them?
Where my question is coming from us the integration of the motor with the frame. It seems to me if they are already in generation 4, and the shape changed each generation, then the lifespan of this very expensive bike will be limited?
There is a minimum commitment to support the system for 7 years after production stops, but the reality is Bosch won’t stand in anyone’s way if they stop offering this. Think of the way the automotive market works. Service kits already exist for older systems that need it and backwards compatibility is baked into the Bosch model.
@@Propelbikes thank you.
Great review, as always! Thanks a lot. But I think you're wrong at 19:06 where you say that it's not possible to charge a phone with the Nyon display. According to the manual it does have a USB port that can charge most smartphones.
It does have a port, but it doesn’t charge. Unless a software update now allows this. When I tested it, I wasn’t able to get it to work.
I've never tested this but on page 18 of this manual it says that you can charge devices with the USB port: www.bosch-ebike.com/fileadmin/EBC/Service/Downloads/Bedienungsanleitungen/MY2017/Nyon_Online/Bosch-eBike-Nyon-User-Manual-2017-EN.pdf?_=1487058902
Maybe that's really something they unlocked with a software update. Might also depend on the phone.
This is the old Nyon unfortunately
Ah, right, that explains a lot :D Thanks.
Chris,
I have a few questions i hope you can assist with.
1. i am looking to purchase a r&m homage gt rohloff twin battery is it better to wait until 2022 for new model or will it be the same as 21, given it takes 2-3months to arrive in australia if we ordered today, so is there any benefit to wait.
2. can you please advise best frame size i am 186cm is 54 or 58 better?
3.if bike was dropped or in a minor accident are parts avaiable off the shelf or is the wait time considerable where bike would be off the road.
thank you for great presentation and i look forward to your response.
regards, Joy.
Nice coat Chris 😊
I wish I could afford something like this, but I'm stuck with a low budget for my first ebike. This thing rocks though!
I think you’re not alone here. Maybe there is one in your future? Which bike do you have now?
@@Propelbikes I don't have an ebike yet. I've been shopping for my first, while waiting for my tax refund to hit my bank! lol There are a lot of factors, money is just one of them. I live in an apartment in Brooklyn, so the size of the bikes comes into play too, because of the elevator! Security is another issue for parking outside at work. Oh brother!! lol Great R&M review though, and a beautiful bike!
@@musicmann1967 talk to louis rossman about his befang, he's in NYC
@@frotobaggins7169 I checked him out and it looks like he installed a Bafang motor onto a bicycle. That's cool, but definitely NOT what I'm doing!! LOL I'm looking to purchase an ebike. But thanks for the thought! I appreciate it!
@@musicmann1967 it's an economical alternitive. and it's fast. lol it's not an ebike in that he has to peddle, i think it just goes with the twist of the throttle.
Wow, I want one. What is the lead time to the Long Beach shop?
We might have some stock or at least some coming. Depends what you want. But about 3 months for new builds.
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Hello Propel. I just received my 2021 Homage. I ordered the 49cm size. The one I got seems bigger than 49cm. I looked and cannot see on the frame a sticker or inscribing showing the frame size, do you know where they show it? Appreciate your videos also.
Can you please address if it possible to routinely choose to ride with no assist, if your choice is to get some good strenuous exercise?
Hi again Chris,
Second question, what happens to the el chronic shifter if the battery is run down?
The system will stop assisting at around 10% battery to keep battery for the shifter and the lights.
@@Propelbikes brilliant
It's good for delivery rider's like myself but I would never switch my turbo levo in it.but I would like to have it as an extra bike
Hi Chris. Thanks for this excellent review. I really like the look of this bike and want to buy one. Can I ask a question about the dropper seat please? Does it adjust to a specific height so that it fits the rider correctly and goes back up to that exact height each time? I am not sure how the height adjustability works with a dropper seat. Appreciate all the detail you go into in all of your reviews. Rob
Thanks! Glad you like it. The idea is that you adjust the optimal height to the fully extended seatpost length. So when you drop down are you going to go as low as you can go I wanna go back up it’ll get you exactly where you need to be
@@Propelbikes Excellent. Thanks for explaining. Really appreciate it.
There are two parts to the seat post tube, a fixed part at the base which you can adjust up and down to your height like a normal seat post, then an upper part which you can raise and lower to any position between the top and bottom stops (over maybe 7 inches range).
First set the bottom part to your height with full extension on the top part. The bike shop should do this when you collect.
When your weight is on the seat and you push the lever, the seat will drop all the way to the bottom stop. Then stand up on the pedals, hit the lever and the seat will rise up until it meets your butt or the top stop. So it's kind of self adjusting. Or you can crouch lower and it will stop lower when it hits your butt. Its adjustable to anywhere in that 7 inch range.
My son is shorter than me and it's really nice to adjust it quickly to his leg length when he wants to ride it. He pushes it down with his forearm, gets on, stands up on the pedals at full leg extension and the seat raises to meet his butt and stops. Let go of the lever and its locked off at the perfect height for him. Super gadget.
@@ecoworrier Thanks. Ive not had a dropper seat before so I was curious how it worked - if the seat was adjustable like suspension forks. Makes sense the way you describe it.
@@robmac9733 No worries. I was unsure how it worked until I got one.
Are you going to do a specific review of the twin battery homage.
Would love to see you cover a crossover high-speed bike that is affordable.
Yeah you could buy a used car trailer and ebike for that price
Is the horn just sitting under the BB susceptible to damage and spray from the front tire?
*this back rack should be made to carry a 2nd person.* add some pegs. come on. only 25kilos with so much metal...
FIRST‼️ My World Champion medal awaits. When I've actually watched the video, I will comment further‼️
O.K., Chris, I've watched your video, and, straightaway, I must say I like the increase in levity and naturalness - with every new video you look less and less like a rabbit caught in the headlights - and I really, really like the increased participation of the absolutely charming young lady associate. I'm referring, of course, to the lady who, previously, patiently and painstakingly explained acronym to you.
Your appraisal of the Homage is, as we have come to expect, nonpareil. Your combination of hard facts, personal opinion, and real-world experience, delivers a comprehensive review that I've never seen equalled, let alone bettered.
The bike itself is an absolute world beater, and has replaced the Superdelite as my bike of choice. Once the world has returned to, for want of a better word, normal, I'll be out there shopping.
Anyway, apart from a quick mention of your ungodly early morning filming, and your horizontal leg hair, I'll bid you a fond farewell. Au revoir.
Dang it! Ya beat me
@@BenDurham Never mind, better luck next time.👍👍😜
🏆🏆🏆😉Lmao!!! I can always count on you to warm my heart and put a smile on my face. I look forward to the day that we can share a coffee. It does feel nice how things are coming along and it feels great to be able to continue to employee people during this time and I’m super grateful for all the amazing people I get to work with.
@@Propelbikes Share a coffee⁉️ Bloody hell, how expensive is a coffee in Long Beach⁉️ Can't we afford a cup each❓Anyway, what's wrong with a beer❓
The employer/employee relationship is a two way street. Your workforce is a happy, motivated bunch, who go the extra yard to ensure your business is successful. And you, in turn, look after them when times are not so rosey. That's the way it should be, and that's the way you operate, and I greatly admire your values. Anyway, I'd better get down off my soapbox before I get splinters in my feet‼️👍👍👍
Lol! I will buy you one, or even a beer if you’d like. Possibly even a meal. I don’t drink alcohol, but you’re welcome to indulge. It would be great if you come to LB, but I am definitely planning on making my way to the UK. Hope you have a nice weekend!
Hello,
I am looking to buy a Riese and Muller e-bike very soon after a lot of research in to different models and brands and i came across a video on youtube regarding a failed / broken charging port on a 2021 Riese and muller Nevo 3 down tube and wondered if you have ever come across the same fault or maybe just a one off hopefully at that price point Thankyou
Be honest: Does a 350 lb. Clydesdale rider have any business riding a full suspension bike like this? Wouldn't I just bottom it out constantly? Trying to weight the benefits and added cost against knowing that those wide tires, plus a Thudbuster and my own padded backside might provide adequate ride cushioning. TIA
350lbs is beyond the recommended weight and you would likely bottom out the suspension. I think a hardtail with wide tires and a suspension post is a better way to go. The Kinect XXL is a great post as well.
If I buy a R&M in EU and import it. Will charger work for 110v?
I like your jacket. May I ask what brand this is? Would love to see a video about suitable bags for riese & müller bikes.
The new front rack bag looks to be out. I see first pics on the RM site on the configurator. More details would be great though. I have Ortlieb rear panniers on my superdelite and am very happy with them. There is a horizontal pack which connects over the top of them too which is cool. But I'm still waiting on the front pack specs.
Hi Propel, you prefer a 54 size, can you tell me how big you are?
@propel I'm 5.75, would a 54cm be a good fit?
what's that black jacket you are wearing ?
What makes Bosch motors the best on the market? Also are they made in China or somewhere else?
They are made in Europe for the most part, but that’s not what makes them the best IMO. They are reliable, the power predictable, they are well supported and the overall experience using them is very high. Oh and they are the safest available due to extensive testing.
Why no indicators at that price?Vespa electrica has it all at a much lower price and you can carry two adults with no pedaling! BGood review though.
I like that homage has 1250wh vs the 1125wh on superdelite and I really like the blue. I just don't like the aesthetic of that straight bar in back, it looks odd to me. I'm not a girl, I don't wear dresses and I'm not 70 years old, so a step through is not for me. Too bad the superdelite doesn't have 1250wh. I'm sure that's not going to affect the range too much anyway.
how many watts power does the new motor put out
I think I’ll get the new Bianchi E-Omnia FT type! Lighter and stylish! 🇮🇹
Enjoy! Different strokes for different folks.
@@Propelbikes do you think I can fit the Rohloff in it even if it comes with chain transmission?
It could be possible, but it will be a big challenge. You won’t be able to accommodate the belt and you will need to reprogram the motor to use the electronic e-14 which Bianchi likely won’t allow
Hi I would like a riese and muller I live in Hampshire where can I get one thank you brian
I’m 6’1” with a 33.5” inseam and have sensitive knees. What size do you recommend?
54cm. Get the lowerable saddle so you can easily adjust the seatpost
@@Propelbikes thanks!!
19:07 You say the Kiox will charge a 'phone but a Nyon doesn't. Why then does the Nyon have a charging port like the Kiox, as clearly shown at 19:05?
This is purely for diagnostic purposes
@@Propelbikes Damn! I've just paid over £400 for a retrofit kit!
I appreciate that these are very premium bikes built to last..and you could buy a bunch of junky ones for the same price .
Do these R & M bikes offer USB charging ports?
what jacket is the presenter wearing ?
Where is the actual horn hiding?
It’s behind the motor actually.
@@Propelbikes interesting! I’d love to know what actual component they’re using and how it’s set up. Would be great for my GSD.
You see it below the motor on the side views. I was wondering what that was watching the video.
Makes sense now.
Horn's in a bad place. Good Review I have a Stromer ST 2
They used to run it on the front of the motor, but moved it to fit the larger battery. It seems to work well there.
$8400 USD?!!! Thanks, I'll buy a nice motorcycle for that money.
who much running cost will the motorcycle give you? have you factored that in?
@@Ginkoman2
Nice bike, just too nice at $7,500+ for me...there is no way I use a bike lock on this, needs a bike locker!!!
I can by a BMW electric motorcycle for thousands less than this with all the options. Over $16,000, nuts!
$7.000. I stop watching at 30 sec in
nice bike! now just make it a cargo bike ;)
what size would you recommend for a 5'6" guy with a 29" inside leg?
49cm all the way
@@Propelbikes thank you for the speedy response