Classical Composer Reacts to YES: THE YES ALBUM | The Daily Doug (Episode 829)
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In this #masterpiecefriday edition of #thedailydoug, I'm releasing ANOTHER Extended Play Lounge Episode. This time, it's all of The Yes Album from Yes. I recorded this episode for my Patreon community back in October, and I'm pleased to share it with y'all here on UA-cam.
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Hay Doug! Dead and Company (formally Grateful Dead) just played there last show ever on August 10th, and in remembrance of Dead and Company, will you be making any more videos on there music? If you do I recommend mostly there live music because it’s better than studio version.
The arrival of Steve Howe was the first step toward glory, followed with Rick Wakeman for Fragile. What a band !!!
Then the magnum opus with Close to the Edge
Yes, with Howe, Wakeman and Bruford behind them, you could say the group that Anderson and Squire had envisioned was perfected.
A great band in 1971 because in many ways they were already great. I've seen pro musicians talk about getting into Yes via albums like 'Fragile', but then checking out the 1969 debut and being equally blown away.
@@raymondhartmeijer9300 That reminds me to go listen to Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, and Howe's album. Havent' heard it in probably 30 years.
And the exit of Bruford and entrance of Alan White gave us the perfect iteration of the band!! I was happy with Bruford’s dissatisfaction with Yes’s direction and his decision to leave. White gave Yes a more satisfying rock base to the group…
This video is exactly what we did 54 years ago... sitting around with friends, listening for the first time, and discussing every nuance to evey song in every way...
Thank for the memories.
A lost wonder I wish we could recapture ❤
That's how I first listened to Fragile, Farewell to Kings, and Everybody Knows this is Nowhere with a friend back in HS. They were all his albums. Years later, I turned the tables and we listened to my Bruckner 7th (von Karajan with the Berlin).
@@tkengathegrateful4844and In the Court of the Crimson King and The Lamb Lies Down etc. All reviewed to the last note.
Gotta say it. Bruford brings the swing to progressive rock and makes it special. Howe's Atkin's style-picking with all the other stuff he's doing makes it special also. Squire just tearing into the bass at this point. Powerful and aggressive yet still musical.
I recall at university, when this album came out, a neighbour in my hall of residence (whom I hardly knew) invited me to listen to it, and the first track blew me away, especially the bouncing guitars. The amusing thing was that he was deaf in one ear but could still appreciate the stereo.
I happen to own an original (i believe first) pressing of the yes album. Sounds phenomenal bass fills the room like no other record i own.
The Greatness Of Chris Squire: Repeating the same two or three notes over the last minute or so of Perpetual Change and then driving the song home as he drops back into the Melody.
Chris Squire was Yes' secret weapon. Moreso in subsequent albums.
My all time favorite Yes album. My brothers turned me onto this when I was just a little kid. Probably why it’s my favorite. How is it that I’ve heard this SO MANY times, yet it can still give me goosebumps?
They have some of the coolest bass lines
I hadn't realized how young the band were when they recorded this. Jon was the oldest at 26, the rest were 21-23. The musical maturity on this album is just amazing.
THE YESSONGS version of Perpetual Change is KILLER
Frankly, I think all of the Yessongs versions are better, especially "All Good People".
One of the all time greats! As a drummer, I was always confounded but amazed at Bill Bruford. He considered himself more of a jazz drummer, and brought his particular timing and rhythmic sensibilities to Yes.
The production and mix of this album is top notch! Everything is so clear separated!
I was a medical student in London when I first heard this. I was well-versed in the classical repertoire and rock and Motown. When I heard this it was as if an alien spaceship had landed with these otherworldly sounds and SO different from everything else I had experienced. But magical!
One of my favorite albums. Still play it regularly.
Steve Howe said he was pleasantly surprised that the guys wanted to include Clap on the album. We were so glad they did, love his playing!
Sounds weird, but Wurm (my favourite!!!) reminds me of Ravel's Bolero, the way it builds up.
Jon Anderson and band geeks are coming out with an album this month! The 23rd
It's great to hear Doug interpret Jon's lyrics in such a straightforward way as I have heard more recent interviews with the other band members and apparently sometimes they were saying to each other "what on earth is he singing about?" !
Perpetual Change from Yessongs is a must listen. Stunning performance by Yes. Each individual is performing at their peak.
Perpetual Change is my favorite piece on this album. Doug, because you're a Classical Composer, I hope you'll give this a listen at least half a dozen more times, because I think you'll really appreciate all that they're doing here. I believe in the section you referred to as polyrhythmic, that they're playing in 2 different time signatures at the same time, and if you're not familiar with Wes Montgomery, go watch him play. Steve is basically paying homage to Wes in that slowed down section. Just beautiful playing all around by everyone. The constant changes in this piece never cease to amaze me. It makes my Top Ten pieces of YES music.
Appreciation for "Perpetual Change" comes into full focus with the 'Yessongs' version. Compared to that this version is almost a demo.
@@yes_head yes, it's a great version.
@@yes_headexcept for Bruford’s meandering and boring solo…I can’t listen to it and thanks to digital files I edited it down to 30 seconds and now I can enjoy PC! Thank God Alan White redeems live performances!
@@hurdygurdyguy1 Bill on his channel recently commented on that track, and admitted that his solo was flawed. Like Steve's in YIND from the Yessongs concert film, he's definitely searching for something and doesn't quite reach his goal. But it's the search that's often as rewarding as the end result.
The finger work on The Clap and Starship Trooper brings tears to my eyes. I don't think people notice what Steve is really doing here. Starship Trooper is so beautiful you get lost in everything that's happening.
ISAGP contains several allusions to the music of John Lennon. A reference to John Lennon's work is in the lyric "send an instant karma to me", with "Instant Karma!" being a single released by Lennon in 1970. Another reference occurs just before the three-minute mark of the song, in the closing moments of "Your Move", where the chorus of Lennon's song "Give Peace a Chance" is sung by the backing vocalists under the main melody.
Best band, ever. Period.
Nice to release this, Doug - thanks ❤
The big organ chord slabs at the end of All Good People always get me. Tony Kaye is understated but very much there. Also on the piano on A Venture.
Perpetual Change is perhaps my all-time fave from this album. Love it ❤
It is at least partly about the then-recent moon landings and the immediate talk of conquering the stars. And all the time, we don’t know what we have right here at home… and we are slowly killing it:
And there you are,
Saying we have the moon, so now the stars,
When all you see
Is near disaster gazing down on you and me,
And there you're standing,
Saying we have the whole world in our hands,
When all you'll see,
Deep inside the world's controlling you and me
You'll see perpetual change
You'll see perpetual change
This was the first of the 'peak three' which to me were The Yes Album, Fragile, and Close to the Edge. I think they are each equally important because they each exemplify different strengths, The Yes Album is showcasing a rock band that has reached a stage of expanding beyond the sum of its parts and for the first time we feel every member stepping forward and yet in perfect balance witb the whole. I must admit, I really love Tony Kaye's keyboard work on this album, his sound fills everything out so well, and he seems to have really tuned in to Steve well, the two were like a single beast. Rick Wakeman would bring a very different sophisticated flavor to the next two releases, but Tony rocked and deserves more attention than he recieved.
The excitement and joy in your face and your voice when you discovered "all we are saying is give peace a chance" buried beneath the main vocals in "I've Seen All Good People" is giving me life. Your enthusiasm for music is why I love this channel so.
You've brought me back to my youth. Prog Rock/Jazz albums I bought at the time were: Yes, Egg, If, Chicago Transit Authority.
That was awesome! I hadn’t listened to this whole superb album in ages. One of my favorite memories from the many times seeing them live was at the 2013 Yestival in Philadelphia. They played three entire albums, this plus CTTE and GFTO. Our seats were close enough that I could see Chris count through the polyrhythm section in Perpetual Change (which could easily go off the rails live). It made him seem more like the rest of us.
Tony Kayes foot is in plaster on the sleeve, that's how I saw him hobble on stage with a walking stick at Shrewsbury Music Hall Tech Dance 22nd December 1970. I was 15, my first ever band! Came out a YES fan
Doug! I'm as chuffed as a monkey to share this classic album with you. Yes and Floyd were in constant rotation when I was a lad in the 70s & 80s.
And they still are now that I'm an old man!
Now back to your reaction.
Aha! But you don't feel old when you listen to this wonderful music.😊 I bought this album in 1972 when I was 16 and still have it, along with Fragile and Close to the Edge (album cover signed by Roger Dean...long story but I knew someone who knew that artist)
Growing up in the late 1960s and 1970s I just loved Yes. Between them and the Doors, AM radio was never better. When I was in college in the late 1970s I really started to listen to complete albums, of course while getting stoned. Whenever someone put on Yes the mood changed in the room, all conversation stopped, we smoked and just became immersed in the music. Oh, those were the days, young, dumb, with no cares in the world except who was Bogarting the joint.😅
The '70s were freakin' awesome.
As one might have done in the pandemic, venturing into looking for new music I was heavily surprised by Yes. I was aware of them but it was just a matter of taking the time to actually listen. In conclusion, I consider Yes to be one of the most elegant bands I have ever heard. I realized with this I may not entirely scratched the surface with them. Still though, they become nothing but a favorite of mine.
Yes, like Rush, radiate positivity. They are fun rabbit holes to explore.
Age 13 this album arrived...I know why it resonated with me so much having grown up listening to Bach from age 5. I am now 65 and was one of the albums I took into the 🇲🇷Sahara on mp3...and for 10 years I allowed nomads to listen to and was always greeted with absolute delight. 🌴🐪🐐🐍🐊🦂🦇🦎🐢☀️
Thank you for sharing your incredible journey!
Life Long yes fan. They're albums helped to shape my life. When Steve is in the zone he is other worldly.❤
Yes! was playing constantly in the 70's, we couldn't get enough!!
Geddy Lee: "I was turned onto this by a good friend back in the day when Yes were just breaking. Of course I loved Chris Squire's incredible bass...and am still a huge fan. Quite amazing. But Yes provided an incredible array of intricate arrangements and a musicality beyond belief. They are often knocked for being too complex but I don't agree. There is a simplicity and elegance to the songs. I always found them both accessible and adventurous."
Yes were voted by Louder/Prog readers as the number one progressive artist of all time.
Thank you. This album brings me back to hanging out with my brother with the stereo cranked to 11 and stoned AF. I miss you brother.
Starship trooper is still one of my favourite songs ever...
This album really withstands the test of time. I heard most of these songs for the first time on the live album Yessongs, where they really pack a punch (all with Alan except for Bill on Perpetual Change). But I've come to enjoy these studio versions with Bill - such a creative drummer. Starship Trooper was always a highlight from their live shows.
I love Jon Anderson's Lancashire accent.
Jon's accent (and mine) are very specific to our home town of Accrington in Lancashire. When I was growing up I could tell from their accent if someone was from Bacup, a town over the hill less than 8 miles away.
Exactly though when I was 17 I thought his rhotic r's were more exotic
@@XUKMUSIC That's cool 🙂
@@XUKMUSIC Surely not that far, Padiham is only about 3 miles away and they have a very different accent ( l went to school in Accy for 7 years in late 60s early 70s.) Yes Album is still phenomenal all gifted musicians.
@@jackn4853 I've been in Los Angeles for 35 years, so I'm remembering my mate Pete who was from Bacup. I don't know anyone from Padiham. :)
Consider Yessong's epic version of Perpetual Change. Simply amazing.
Thanks Dr doug it took me right back,I first saw yes in 1969 at a small college gig and the last time at the royal Albert hall, I still play the yes album here in Cambodia
You noticed the tribute to Lennon in All Good People with the 'Give Peace a Chance' lyric, but did you spot the other reference in the lyric to Instant Karma? Also, in an interesting coincidence, Bill Bruford's replacement in Yes was Alan White, who'd previously drummed for John Lennon, including on the song Instant Karma.
This is the Yes I fell in love with! Was a great time to be alive.
What I love about Doug is that he gives you the feeling that he’s talking to you individually. His enthusiasm for the music is infectious.
Bruford is playing right foot to the slower of the two rhythms, and the hands play the fast one. Unreal.
This was the first rock record where the bass was the star attraction. All my bass player friends wanted a Rickenbaker after hearing this. In the same week I bought this, I bought 12 Dreams of Dr Sardonicus so it must have been 1971 when I was 14. That was a good week.
I don’t think anyone else played bass as if it was the lead guitar. Chris Squire was an amazing musician.
I grew up with that album in the 70s. The soundtrack of my life ever since.
This album is wonderful. It charted in the UK as a result of a postal strike which meant that not all London sales returns were recorded but fortunately the strike did not affect record shops in areas of London where Yes had a big following. Clap was recorded at the theatre where Bram Stoker, who wrote Dracula, worked as a manager.
“Clap” also reminded me a bit of Leo Kottke, an amazing guitarist.
Dude, it's Rick Wakeman on keys when Yes took off! Tony is phenomenal but Rick was the master. All that being said I still love their first three efforts, they defined what progressive music is.
I started a classical guitar curriculum because.of, " The Clap". Steve Howe has no formal training. It makes you want to tear your hair out with envy.
It was great music to grow up listening to. WE KNEW Yes was special
I listen to this album semi-regularly. In a couple of weeks I'll be seeing Yes in concert with Deep Purple. Steve Howe holds the band together well even with the lineup changes. Thanks Doug.
I love how Tony Kaye BECOMES a rhythm section when Bruford and Squire play anything but root notes and downbeats. He was GENIUS in his intelligent arrangements to service a song over being flashy.
Really glad you’re advocating listening to whole albums. The experience is so much more fulfilling.
An album I hold close to my heart, 'Your Move' was the first piece of Yes music I ever heard, due to the fact that my best friend (who had invited me over to his house to hear 'this amazing album' he'd just bought, back in February 1971) putting on Side 2 by mistake! Tony Kaye's organ chords sent me into another galaxy and a new direction in my rock music appreciation. A couple of weeks later I had saved up enough money to buy my first stereo record player, and the first album I played on it was The Yes Album. Since then, whenever I have purchased a new music player, be it turntable or CD player or whatever, the first album I play is The Yes Album. The perfect rock album!!! I must say, however, this remaster is not my favourite. I think there is too much separation on 'Yours Is No Disgrace', and during the polyrhythmic section of 'Perpetual Change' the second part enters far too abruptly, completely missing the build up and introduction under the faster keys and guitar riffs. Sorry for complaining, it's just that the original album is so dear to me. It was so great to listen to it with Doug.
I agree that recent remixes of many albums unfortunately embrace separation to a fault. It's especially problematic on albums like this where the original stereo mix was a little flaky to begin with.
This album is among my favorites. I immediately am transported back to Columbia Missouri and a house full of musicians. We were members of an orchestra, and many rock and blues bands, and we played this album all night long, over and over. Guitars and basses were brought out, we had an old upright piano that was heavily abused that night, as we sussed out every song, banging out Bill's beat on anything we could get ahold of. None of us could hit the notes that John hit, but we had a Contralto opera singer who had a blast singing along. The Wurm continues to thrill me every time I hear it.
Your comment about strophic music, and how this is kind of strophic, but in reverse, with the same lyrics, but different music is a great point. As a singer and player, I've listened to this record since it came out, but never analyzed it like that. And great capture of "All We Are Saying, Is Give Peace a Chance" BRILLIANT! I never noticed that before, either. Little Easter eggs everywhere!
Chris Squire was Yes' secret weapon.
Your Move sounds like a plea for John Lennon to make it up with Paul McCartney, hence the references to Instant Karma and Give Peace A Chance.
The Yes Album is so good it would almost certainly have been a success no matter how much or how little exposure it received, but it was given a massive boost when in the spring of 1971 the band were invited on the BBC weekly prime-time singles chart show Top Of The Pops as part of a new 'album slot' during which they performed Yours Is No Disgrace in its entirety. Next morning there was only one topic of conversation in the school yard...
Interesting
It's a crime that we have so much early footage of Yes, while that pivotal TOTP appearance is missing.
And of course Alan White, who joined Yes the following year, was the drummer on Instant Karma, and played Give Peace a Chance with John and the Plastic Ono Band at Live Peace in Toronto in 1969. I've often wondered about the link.
Usually comment I don’t… But let me tell you this is the greatest true purist form of yes… I’ve seen yes more than anybody else in concert starting in 1973… This is the purest form of yes… But we all like awaken and we all like close to the edge But this is the purest form. it’s the best of yes
Great reaction to an even better album, Dr. Doug!
There were 5 primary albums that I used to learn how to play the drums back in the early 1970s, in order: Ringo Starr of The Beatles and Abbey Road; John Densmore of The Doors and their debut album; Keith Moon of The Who and Who's Next; Ian Paice of Deep Purple and Machine Head; and, finally, Bill Bruford of Yes and The Yes Album. I learned from the masters!
Doug, I found your reaction to hearing GIVE PEACE A CHANCE in the background really emotional! 👍👏
Great review Doug, thank you! A few nerd notes which I hope you'll have the chance to read:
YIND - the first note you hear is not the downbeat; it's a half-beat behind the 1; borrowed from a cowboy theme (not sure what - Bonanza? Magnificent 7?). Bill does this in other Yes songs - the opening bass solo of Heart of the Sunrise, a little syncopated break in America - as I think he enjoyed toying with listeners' expectations.
Clap: 100% Chet Atkins, and one of Steve's stated greatest influences along with Wes Montgomery and Les Paul
Dilliusionment from Chris and Wurm from Steve had already been recorded in different songs with their former bands. When he first comes in under Wurm Chris is happy to play a sustained D against the G-Eflat-C figure, but thereafter sticks to the notes G, Eflat, Bflat and C, never again touching D, let alone B or E natural, which he could have done.
Your Move: having recorders on a song - novel? - same year as Stairway to Heaven. Convergent evolution, I think, rather than Zep stealing the idea from Yes.
A Venture is sort of polyrhythmic - the sung verse and the guitar play in 3, the drums and bass in 4 (mostly)
Perpetual Change's "polyrhythm' bit - it's a repeated figure in 7/8, but the slower theme that comes in at one side is basically 7/4, so despite how it sounds it's not particularly complex.
In the end, I think it's Steve's album, because he plays so many different styles so expertly, it's like the band saying "THIS" is where we're going. On the flip side, Tony Kaye, despite some solid textural stuff and the lovely piano in Venture, really doesn't have the often-thrilling presence heard on the first two albums: feels like the writing was already on the wall for him.
I believe the slower theme against the 7/8 in Perpetual Change is a cycle of 14 beats consisting of one bar of 6 and one of 8 in quarter time.
Tony Kaye: "I just loved the textures and the sound of the Hammond. The ‘new’ equipment didn’t really appeal to me ... Jon and Chris, but particularly Jon, wanted to create this orchestral thing. And obviously, Rick fit perfectly because that’s what he was playing. And so it was a split that had to happen ... There was nothing bad between us. I went to see the band several times. I saw Topographic and a couple of tours in America. I love the 70s version of the band, I thought they were really great."
@@bookhouseboy280 well any way you measure it you get exactly 2 rpts of the fast theme for every one slow theme.
Jon has been critical of Tony at that time saying he was only interested in buying clothes so there was some historical animosity. But I still think Tony's playing on the first 2 albums was far more exciting than what he does on TYA
@@sigil5772 I'm pretty sure Jon never said that about Tony, but he did say that sometimes it seemed as if Peter Banks was more interested in clothes. Perhaps the main reason why Tony stands out more on the first 2 is because Steve was filling more space with his guitar than Peter as Yes were now using more tracks to record.
@@bookhouseboy280 omg you're right I mixed them up d'oh! What was the beef between Tony and Trevor Horn tho?
@@bookhouseboy280 and yes for sure Steve did fill the sound.
I have such an emotional connection to this music. Only child so I played a lot of great albums om my Capehart stereo
The best Rock music the world will ever know? Yes! 😁
I just love the beaming face Doug sports when he reveals, ok everyone, it's a Yes day! Cue beatific smile😃
Steve was pissed off with Jon for introducing Clap as "The Clap", which is a slang term for venereal disease in the UK.
Just as 'Fragile' was a showcase of sorts for Rick Wakeman, 'The Yes Album' introduced Steve Howe as the guitar player’s guitar player. On each song, he pulls another riff out of his hat and his solos still sound immaculate, all these years later. Jon Anderson, progressive rock’s choir boy, is in all his glory and the remarkable rhythm section (Bill Bruford and Chris Squire) represents possibly the most potent combination rock has ever heard. With unparalleled musical proficiency and an all-time progressive rock epic (“Starship Trooper”), 'The Yes Album' has something to offer anyone. - PopMatters (edited)
I recommend the album "Fish out of Water" with Fish (Chris Squire) of course : ) The Video of "Hold out your hand" is still amazing!
I find myself listening to "Tempus Fugit" every so often too, give it a listen if you will
You said it all at the end Doug - wonderful, wonderful, wonderful!
If I remember correctly, the "10's" in Perpetual Change were written as two 4/4 measures followed by a 2/4 measure. I had the Yes Complete book with all of their sheet music through Drama and was always amazed at how they would change the time signatures to fit what they wanted to convey.
It is definitely worth your while to listen to Yes's first two albums!
The critics knocked them, but I love them!
What do the critics know anyway!?
YES! 😊 Truly a classic album!
I love Perpetual Change…but for me this remaster spoils the crescendo near the end when you have the clashing motifs. In the original it builds up a wall of noise that breaks like a glorious wave with ”and there you are…”. The separate the tracks too much in this version which diminishes the effect IMO
Same as with alternative version of close to the edge on the remastered 2003 cd of that album. The closing section is very disappointing on there
Nice to listen something for the first time with you as well
Hi Doug listen to perpetual change the yessongs version it's epic. Also you said Steve howes playing reminds you of chet atkins Steve always said he was his biggest influence
Starship Trooper live is hypnotic, Wurm has a transcendental quality. Almost everything from this album used to be on the concert playlists because it is just such a great album.
So good. I wore out my tape cassette version of this album in my Sony Walkman!
A song from their earlier albums, Time and a Word, has been played often at concerts later. I love it as a great early Yes example.
Hugs from Brazil 🎉
Just love The Yes Album !
Never apologize for singing man, f****n love you Doug.
The Big Generator tour was my first concert. Ever. That was high school. Saw Yes another time after that. Extremely fortunate to see Christopher Squire and Alan White play.
Superb album that has been a favourite for many years, since 1971 probably.
Great Album, Perpetual Change is the Hidden Gem!
Doug, Jon Anderson is touring with the Band Geeks. You should go see them if you can. As close to original Yes as you can get.
Doug, I really enjoy your reactions. After I have listened to these bands (the ones you have made videos on) and these same arrangements hundreds of times (and it can get uneventful), it is really great to get your fresh insights on these tunes. Thank you. Rock on.
Everybody shines!!! My god. Thanks professor...thanks
Thanks for the video. One of my fav Yes albums! Rock on!
I feel like I need a double album jacket and some weed to clean.
The first time I heard this was a night club waiting for a band to come on stage ..this at full volume with the walls vibrating….
Thanks for reviewing the Yes Album, Doug! Glad you liked Perpetual change, which a little -known song except to fans and is so incredible live and remained in their setlist throughout the 70's. It was even in the most abbreviated Jon Anderson and the Band Geeks setlist I just saw a week ago! Did you notice the use of the vocal "bell chord " in Starship Trooper- a device not usually heard in rock music.
Low hanging fruit for any reaction channel. Aerosmith's loss is Yes' gain. Arguably the most *important* album in the Yes catalog, if not the best (sorry, but it's hard to dislodge 'Close to the Edge'). But boy did they kick off their 'main sequence' in style. This is how you show off without being pretentious. And holy crap, welcome Mr. Howe! It's still astonishing to hear how Steve could spray tasty guitar licks across a song, and do it without ever resorting to blues cliches or distortion.
Always loved this album.
One of my top 10 LP's from this 70-year-old !! Still love your reaction to "Heart of the Sunrise" from Fragile ! 💯💯💖👍✌
Good catch, comparing the coda at the end of side 1 to the trading-off of solos in "The End" by the Beatles....
Doug, you REALLY SHOULD investigate some Hot Tuna !! You're missing out on some of the *great* music of the same era. ~~~Sea Child, Watch the North Wind Rise, Genesis, Embrionic Journey, and many bluesy electric jams by the core duo of Jack Casady (bass) and Jorma Koukonen (multitracked guitars), whose previous group was the Jefferson Airplane.
Big shout out to Tony Kaye. Maybe not flamboyant like Rick Wakeman but his underpinning of the tunes is part of this albums feel. Lovely tone to his Hammond too.
Perpetual Change --- sounds like the opening theme to a 1970s 6:00 newscast.
Hands down one of the most epic albums in the history of music! "The Yes Album" is on par with Bach, Chopin, Beethoven, Shostakovich, all of the greats!
Doug lost both my legs still in hospital really enjoy ur reactions vids totally enjoy ur attitud😊im😅